and conspiracy or not, you can't deny 9/11 served as the perfect excuse to invade 2 countries, loot their resources, and create a genocide on innocent people, not to mention the start of the "war on terror" creating laws that destroy many of people's liberties.
The firefighters said WTC 7 was unstable and likely to collapse.
That pretty much destroys the truther claims of a secret demo plot. So the truthers are forced to claim the firefighters were lying or were told what to say. Sure, that just makes complete sense. LOLOL!
@PoetryHound no actually it doesn't, just because they said the building was unstable doesn't mean it's true, firefighters also said they were going to have to bring it down as well. And just so you know there is enough physical evidence that it was brought down with demo. Watch "Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7" from AE911TRUTH.
"Early on, there was concern that 7 World Trade Center might have been both impacted by the collapsing tower and had several fires in it and there was a concern that it might collapse. So we instructed that a collapse area be set up and maintained so that when the expected collapse of 7 happened, we wouldn't have people working in it. " – FDNY Chief Frank Cruthers
I suppose this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, right?
"The building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right." -FDNY Chris Boyle
@PoetryHound Did i ever said they were lying? I wasn't even implying it. Those were only some of the eye witnesses from that day and they were still unsure of the collapse. There were lots of mixed thoughts from what happened that day, and your just naming the ones that made theories on how the building would come down. Like I said, it doesn't mean it wasn't demo. If you want factual evidence of demolition, do some research! Watch AE911TRUTH's videos!
@username7046 Good, glad you don't think the firefighters were lying. I agree that they were not lying about the instability and likelihood of collapse. The fact that WTC 7 was widely expected to collapse undermines the black ops demo theory. The other thing that undermines it is the lack of evidence of explosives or incendiaries.
I don't trust Richard Gage or his ae911T videos. He says lots of false things.
@PoetryHound First of all, those false claims are minor compared to the evidence that is shown in videos around the internet. What about the free-fall speed, what about the micro-spheres found in the wtc dust and the rest of the scientific evidence found in the site? What about the whole building falling at once into it's own footprint? What about the lack of investigating the site for explosives? Is he wrong about those claims?
@username7046 First, they aren't "minor" points according to Gage, who included all of them in his "Blueprint For Truth." Many truthers repeat those same false claims.
Second, the fact that he makes so many false claims, misrepresentations, unsubstantiated assertions, etc. makes him untrustworthy, at least to me.
No one says free fall automatically means demo. WTC 7 damaged buildings OUTSIDE its footprint. I've seen lots of explanations for the microspheres.
@PoetryHound no it didn't, ive seen pictures of the building and it barely hit the buildings right beside it. Look it up! And as for the free-fall, the building fell in UNDER 7 seconds, buildings do not fall like that unless they have a certain amount of columns cut at once at the exact same time. And what explanations did you hear for the microspheres? P.S. watch the videos i typed in for you to watch with some of the eye witnesses.
@username7046 It damaged 30 W. Broadway so badly that it required demolition and rebuilding. Look at the aerial photos.
The building fell in much longer than 7 seconds. How do you explain the 18 second seismic signal of the collapse? All you see in the videos is the top of the northern facade and part of the eastern facade collapsing. Not a single video shows the south or east sides, which collapsed first.
@PoetryHound Iron-rich microspheres result form destruction of concrete, burning of paper, wood, plastic, from flyash, from welding, etc. They are ubiquitous. The RJ Lee study said they were to be expected. In fact, if you think they're connected to the melting of steel, then what you need to do is find someone who said chunks of resolidified steel were found. But no one has reported that.
@PoetryHound Like I said, conspiracy or not, you can't deny 9/11 served as the perfect excuse to invade 2 countries, loot their resources, and create a genocide on innocent people, not to mention the start of the "war on terror" creating laws that destroy many of people's liberties. They let it happen, that's what i'm also trying to say, either way, our government got 3000 americans killed and knew that it would happen. Just as bad as putting bombs in the WTC.
@PoetryHound Oops, I meant that all you see in the videos is the top of the Northern facade and part of the WESTERN facade collapsing. You can't tell from the videos what happened on the south and east sides, let along the interior areas of the building.
@username7046 Sorry, I'm not going to play the What-about-this-What-about-that game. It's endless. I've responded to your other questions but you haven't responded to my questions or to my points. So I'm done. I'll just say that I agree with you that the government secrecy is excessive. The government tends to do that. They're secretive about lots of things that they don't need to be. Bush didn't want more money spent because he worried the investigation would turn political.
@PoetryHound yeah but they seem a bit too secretive about questions concerning 9/11. Just saying. and Just so you know, you may be right about it not being demolition, but either way they let it happen and still ended up being just as bad as being demolition. That's what i'm more concerned about.
@username7046 If you listen to his entire "Blueprint" presentation, one of the things you realize he does is he claims thermite was used because it disguises the demolition by not making loud explosive sounds. Then later in the presentation he talks about the ejection of the steel columns and says that could only be the result of detonation charges. Do you see the contradiction?
“We were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Ctr would collapse…Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors.” –FDNY Dep. Chief Peter Hayden
“The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing.” FDNY Chief Frank Fellini
Hey did the conspiracy theorists make up the LIE called WMD?
NO
Who made up that LIE leading an invasion of Iraq called Gulf War 2?
US government!
Who made up the LIE leading to Gulf War 1 in early 1990s?
Remember the LIE about BABY INCUBATORS that got the Merikan sheeple all upset? Later found out to be a HOAX, a big FIB that a NYC Advertising Firm made up to sway public opinion, to help get merikan sheeple interested in another CRUSADE? YES!
Even IF this was the biggest conspiracy in world history, why in god's name would the government conduct "CONTROLLED" demolitions?!?! Obviously if they were taking down two of the biggest skyscrappers of all time they didn't give a shit about civillian casualties. So please, one of you 9/11 conspiracist tards, WHY WOULDN'T THE GOVT. JUST BOMB THE BUILDING SO IT CAME DOWN IN A LESS "CONTROLLED" LOOKING MANNER??!? Jesus fucking christ America, lets try some common fucking sense
People who believe the official story would also believe in a magic act that resulted in death. If david blaine or some other asshole put their girlfriend into a box, sawed it in half, seperated and tickled her foot so her head 10' feet away would giggle, and then when about to reconnect the boxes an explosion erupts and sawdust & a toenail are all found. Then you get an explanation from the box making company saying the girl died from the stress of being seperated, the mental strain was too mch
Newton disagrees with NIST. Let's see...free fall speed. perfectly symmetrical collapse. NANOTHERMITE. The conspiracy theory is NIST's.
In a conspiracy only a few need to know the entire picture. Scientific facts are just that. Who done it? PNAC. Mossad & Silverstein. Who knows. What about the story of a van on Geo. Wash. Bridge full of explosives that evening? Retracted. How about the celebrating Israelis? SOMEONE blew up the WTC. Who? Can you say gangstah government? jaxoons.com
There is an easy way to stop people like the conspiracy theorists.... Don't let them leave school before they have passed a basic adult aptitude test like walking in a straight line or correctly labeling pictures of their arse holes and a hole in the ground.
@islandbuoy4 so why did they spend millions starting upgrade the north tower to protect its steel girders from fire? And why did the north tower which had recieved some of these renovations take so much longer to fall than the completely un-fire-protected south tower? Finally, why the fuck wouldn't the government just bomb the buildings in a manner that was less "controlled" looking? You conspiracist tards seem to think the govt. is simultaneously all powerful and legally retarded!
@islandbuoy4 It was the same concept that brought down the towers and wtc7. Some structural damage combined with fire weakening the remaining steel supports. I know considering two things at once must me confusing for your retarded ass...
@islandbuoy4 I think you missed your crazy pills buddy. Occums Razor says that the explanation with the fewet assumptions and complications is usually the correct one. Now did Larry Silverstein say to the fire chief "pull it" meaning detonate the explosives that he had secretly had installed throughout the building by ninjas in advance as he conspired with the u.s. government for the insurance money to kill 3000 of its own citizens to give justification for an invasion of afghanistan (contd)...
@islandbuoy4 Or is it a much more simple and likely explanation that he didn't want to see any more deaths of firefighters, and said, screw it, the building is insured, the firefighters have told me the building is unstable and completely burned out, pull everyone out of there. You hear the words "pull it" and a moronically assume that this must be code word for start the demolition! YOU are the reason the rest of the world thinks Americans are retards with too much time on their hands! THANKS!
@islandbuoy4 LOL you got all that from TWO WORDS fucktard! HAHAHAHAH "pull it" could mean a million things. And in demolition "pull it" refers to the act of PULLING THE BUILDING WITH CABLES, not leveling it with explosives. So that assumption is retarded on its face. Again, little boy, occam's razor... was it ninja demolition squads and a massive conspiracy with the govt? or was it simply a man saying enough, it isn't worth the lives of riefighters to save my building, just pull the operation.
@islandbuoy4 you fail 3rd grade reading comprehension. All I said was extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your extraordinary cliam, that three skyscrappers in New York had been drilled and fit with explosives without anyone noticing in a govt conspiracy to kill 3000 Americans, to give the justification for a war, is backed up by two fucking words that could be interpreted a million different ways! You sound like a fundamentalist christian claiming the tides proove god exists!
HEY dummy take a look at the right, search for MIT ENGINEER DISPUTES 911, he will explain how and when the charges were laid....you are quite the stooge.
@islandbuoy4 HAHA thanks for proving my point. Jeff King was an elctrical engineer, not a structural engineer and gave that profession up 3 decades ago to persue a degree and later a career as a doctor. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence! All you have is a youtube video of a clip (most likely taken out of context) of a non-expert in the relevant field, talking out his ass about things he doesn't understand. It says a lot that your "proof" is a youtube video little boy
@islandbuoy4 LOL little boy how does a degree in electrical engineering give someone credibility when talking about the structural integrity of a skyscaper? You morons will listen to anyone that agrees with your retarded point of view no matter how unqualified. This isn't an ad hominem attack, it is the simple due dilligence of anyone who isn't a complete moron to check the qualifications of any "experts" one bases their ENTIRE ARGUMENTS ON! Apparently you failed lab science in high "schule" HA!
@islandbuoy4 HAHA is that supposed to show your intelligence little boy? That you can parrot words you heard on youtube videos but clearly don't understand since I addressed that in my last comment! I said "how does a degree in electrical engineering give someone credibility when talking about the structural integrity of a skyscaper" the suggestion being, why does being a renaissance man of sorts make one more qualified to give their opinion on matters in which they are completely untrained?!
You appear far too stupid to even understand how stupid your questions sound?
I LIKE ALL OF WHAT HE SAYS.
NOW it is your turn scumbag to state your case or STFU?
You really need to point out ALL OF THE FLAWS in that video by Jeff King, show me how qualified you are in appraising his work >>> post your CRITIQUES of Jeff King on the page where the videos are posted >>> until YOU do, it is obvious U R one numb and numb seegullible whose only defense is to attack other people :)
@islandbuoy4 Your first clue that Jeff King is a retard would be that he doesn't once try to prove that it was a controlled demolition, just that the towers couldn't have fallen due to structural damage and fire from which he then jumps imediately to so it was a controlled demo. The second clue would be that he doesn't analyze a single claim of NIST from an engineering perspective, he just parrots the same moronic assumptions truthers like yourself spew out of their mouths like verbal diarrhea
One clue U R a troll is the fact U first claimed the electrical engineer could not describe the 'demolition' which according to you NOW, he does not even attempt to explain? (U R a hypocrite is clear!)
Next clue U R a piece of human ca ca is the fact IGNORANT you expect somebody ASKING the obvious questions to GIVE ALL the answers?
Obviously NIST failed in their BS summary of how it happened?
so fucktard IF PULL IT means PULL IT with cables, where were the cables? what a wanker you are, do you ever hear yourself think ya dink? it is not deafening, it is a whimper, a whisper, a pffft
Larry the Liar said by "pull it" he meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building?
Will you wackos get your fucking stories straight before going public with your ill contrived statements...please?
@islandbuoy4 HAHAHh are you retarded? I never siad the buildings were pulled with cables, I said they fell from structural damage and fire. I am showing that your theory that 2 words proves a controlled demo is retarded especially since those words don't even mean controlled demo in the demolition industry!!! He said "pull it" meaning pull the operation to save the building when it was clearly damaged beyond repair, was insured, and hundreds of firefighters had died that day already!
"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
BUT LARRY THERE WERE NO FIREFIGHTERS IN THE BUILDING FIGHTING FIRES YA LIAR, BEEN ORDERED OUT HOURS AGO
Yep believe the government, Everything they tell you is fact. They never tested for explosives yet they know none were found. They suspended the law of gravity so it sped up a falling building to "look"like free fall. Awesome Cenk another cheerleader for the government about the one Obvious thing that happened that day that is hardly mentioned.
The NIST report is instantaneously recognized as disinformation, a lie, because the model presented does not match what was recorded by about least a dozen film cameras. Most notably, their depiction of a buckling and twisting of the building.
Next up, NIST makes another cartoon, this one showing how the Sun revolves around the Earth.
this is the one thing cenk is so far off on. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that they were controlled demolitions. just think about it a little. yeah, they're big, so think of something on a small scale - a model in your living room. it's made of steel and concrete and stands about 7 ft tall. light a kerosene fire about 1/3 of the way down. how long does it need to burn before it comes crashing down just like they did on that day? it won't happen because it's physically impossible.
The World's greatest terrorist attack destroys 2 of the world's largest buildings which are the hub of the world's largest economy and the world's most powerful government, with access to some of the world's greatest scientists, perform one of the world's most inconclusive and unrecognised investigations and the world's fastest cleanup of evidence in the world's history. Hmmmm.... somethings fishy.
@Assimilate71 Unrecognized? NIST's findings are the basis for ongoing research on structural design and fire protection and have resulted in new building codes and standards all over the country.
Fastest cleanup? It took 9 months to clear the site.
what is your problem? did you fall from your crib as a baby or were you just born terminally stupid. a building collapses symmetrically, in 6.5 seconds,across the 300' width of the building, a football field, into it's own footprint. you're OK with that? LOL. nanothermite, active and remnants were found. % per volume implies tons of it. no mistaking it. steel microspheres. eutectic steel. if anyone is still listening to you they must be as stupid as you. don't defend monsters. prosecute them.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If WTC 7 was destroyed via controlled demolition, how do you explain firefighters predicting the building's collapse 3 hours before the actual collapse?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
@jerjr49 Why do I always have to repeat myself with the kooks? No, "nanothermite" was not found. Only Steven jones & his crew claim that & they made all sorts of errors. No replication. No corroboration. And entirely different effect from the corrosion from a eutectic.
For the second time, who says free fall can only be caused by explosives? That's right, WHO?
BTW, the collapse wasn't symmetrical, not in its footprint (It damaged bldgs OUTSIDE its footpring), & longer than 6.5 secs.
simple physics: no building can fall at free fall, which NIST concedes, in a perfectly symmetrical fashion, across 300' width, without the use of explosives. And just coincidentally, explosives were found in the form of active nanothermite, which could be ignited, and remnants of ignited NT. NIST should be indicted and squeezed until they cough up the trail of the devil.
You mean "misinterpreted physics." I've never seen so many people claim to be on the side of physics and then proceed to botch its application. So who says free fall can only be caused by explosives? No one except truthers.
Only Steven Jones & his crew claim nanothermite & they have all sorts of methodological errors in their paper published in a pay-to-publish bottom-feeder journal. That's why the NT theory has sunk like a stone in the scientific world.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”-Joseph Goebbels
Get a clue people. It not even worth arguing you. What heat? those two small fires.
Havent you listened to the firefighters and listened to the explosions? Jesus, you are all in denial. I could go on for hours, but its clear that none of you crazies who think we are nuts have done any research. Im not talking about watching a video or two, but real research. You know the kind that takes thousands of hours like I have or at least a couple hundred. If you have you would be on our side.
@topcoatpaver Well, if you've done the research like you claim, and not just looked at shitty conspiracy sites, then you'd know that demo experts don't say the twin towers were brought down with explosives. You'd also know that explosions are common in fires and that random explosions that don't cause any apparent structural collapses are probably not detonation charges. You would know that not one firefighter said he literally thinks those were real detonation charges.
@PoetryHound YOU would kno that there's plenty of first responders claiming to have multiple explosions. there was a whole firehouse saying it looked like a demolition. my brother was the captain of the second unit to arrive at the pentagon and there was no evidence of a plane.
@PoetryHound sure explosions are common in fires. but do u mind to tell me why standard opperating procedures in regards to preserving evidence and investigating where blatantly disregarded in NYC? they found molten steal. standard protocall states that upon finding the presence of molten steal u MUST test for the presence of thermite/explosives b/c no fire alone can do that. and ur wrong about the fl77 parts being found. no serial numbers or anything was extrapolated. if so plz show me
@jeversburg Are you actually advocating that they should have saved over 200,000 tons of steel plus all the debris that it took 9 months to clear? For what possible reason? Engineers from ASCE and SEAoNY already examined as much steel as they wanted. They found no indication of explosives use.
No molten steel was found.
Who says plane impacts plus fire couldn't have don that?
So the first responders were lying about finding FL77 debris? Really?
@PoetryHound no no no within 24 hours of the attack dont u remember rudy guliani gloating about the fact that 72 truckloads of steel had been whisked away and sent over seas? they got rid of the crime scene! and surely u must not be talking about the pentagon. i could have cleaned up the debris bymeself in a couplke of days
@jeversburg No, there were no 72 truckloads removed within 24 hours. That makes no sense. For the first few weeks there was a rescue operation. Then it became a recovery operation and it took 9 months total to clear the site.
@PoetryHound I live in New York and know many firefighters. Over a dozen of them told me they believe they were real detonation charges. Many more than the dozen told me they don't believe it was detonation charges. I'm not looking to argue and you don't even know where I stand on the issue but for you to say that not one firefighter thinks those were real detonation charges is just untrue. I'm sure they are the minority but many believe those buildings were detonated.
@theelusiveone After going around talking to dozens and dozens of firefighters for some reason, you still don't know where you stand? Hmmmm . . .
Must have taken you awhile to go around interviewing these guys. You're pretty lucky they would tell the truth to a total stranger when they supposedly haven't told it to anyone else.
@PoetryHound Wow you are just looking for a fight. I said "You don't even know where I stand on the issue". I made up my mind less than 30 days after it happened. As far as being a stranger to the firefighters well that is untrue also. I know many of them for over 20 years. Do you even read what other people type or are you just set in fight mode? Go ahead and have the last word. I will not even respond to your idiotic next comment.
@theelusiveone On the internet, anyone can claim anything they want about themselves and what they've done. So I asked you if you could corroborate your claim that over a dozen told you they believe there were actual detonation chartes. Well, can you?
The reason it's suspicious is because firefighters have been very outspoken about the lung damage they incurred and demanding govt reparations. It's not like them to suddenly go silent regarding the murder of 343 of their own. Not even a leak.
@PoetryHound Yeh, because 'experts' with tenure paid by a welfare system enfored by the government are going to be completely unbiased, RIGHT?
If you were actually interested in the truth, you would already know that enough thermite was found in building remains to account for all of the building demolitions.
@braddles86 "enough thermite was found in building remains to account for all of the building demolitions"
Guess what? You're the only person in the world that makes the claim that that much was found. LOL! And if enough unreacted thermite was found to bring down the buildings, that would all be in addition to all the thermite that brought down the buildings with thermite reactions. So you're basically claiming the perpetrators used double the thermite they needed. LOL!
@therealgreenbag No one watches CNN? LOL! That's news to me! It's on in nearly every International Airport in the WORLD. Or at least the ones I have been in, and I have been to 46 different countries on five different Continents.
We, who believe that this was an inside job are not the "Conspiracy Theorist's" . We are "REALISTS". Those who don't think this is an inside job are the real CT's!
Hundreds of coincidences had to happen that day not to mention the complete failure of ALL of our countries defenses on that day. How the hell does a plane (even though no plane ever hit the Pentagon) enter restricted air space a long time after the first of many planes had been "hijacked" and crashed into NYC with out being shot
down. That's right, it doesn't happen unless it was supposed to happen. Why haven't we ever seen a video of the plane that would have flown right by 86 cameras around Arlington, VA. Why, because there wasn't one. Do some research before you question us! We know what happened that day. Some day you will as well...
No you don't. You all disagree with each other. It's hilarious. The Pentagon was hit by a missile! No wait! It as an A3 Skywarrior! No wait! It was a Global Hawk! No wait! It was a 757 but Hanjour wasn't at the controls! No wait! There wasn't even a plane, it was done with explosives! Bunch of clowns.
@topcoatpaver You mean look at Joe Blow's unaccountable, piece-of-shit kookspiracy video and web site? No, that's not "research." But it is fun to read that hilarious nonsense. That's how I found out that each twoofer has his own theory about what hit the Pentagon and they often conflict with each other. LOL! You guys have a lot of other conflicting claims. At least you're good for comic amusement.
You have to wonder how the 9/11 conspiracy morons can possibly believe all the bullshit they spout. Since it's not grounded in reality, I think it's based on their political outlook (anti-Bush, anti-government). It's healthy to be skeptical of the gov't, or anyone for that matter, but these guys elevate it to a level of fruitcakery & see everything through the distorted lens of conspiracy. Watch out! There’s a CIA agent hiding in your closet!
The Manhattan Project, Forcing the Japanese hand with Pearl Harbor, The Assassination of JFK, and RFK are secrets that were kept. How many people worked on the B2 Stealth Bomber, The SR71, and the iphone? It is like this. You either believe in the cause, or they pay you off to be on their side or they threaten your family. If all that does not work, they just put a bullet in your head or you kill yourself in an auto accident. i.e. during the JFK assassination reinvestigation the witnesses died
@therealgreenbag except you're forgetting the fact that the Taliban (by Pashtun law) would've kicked him and Al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan if he ever confessed to such a thing. When Bin Laden finally did reveal it, the Taliban had been crippled, and even today they no longer choose to associate themselves with Al-Qaeda.
@ChampionofFreedom Just because the government aint a bunch of angels doesn't mean they're devilish geniuses. the government is far too incompetent to keep secret a conspiracy of such a massive scale. the government doesn't need to kill over 2,000 of its own people to do something it wants or make a profit. just look at the loop holes they put bills, trade agreements or the shitty excuses for going to war. they hide things in plain sight but the average joe would rather make crazy theories.
@therealgreenbag no one watches CNN anymore except for old people. and there is video of usama bin laden confirming the plan in detail and bragging about it in a video with his followers saying things like " when the 1st plane hit i told em to wait just wait, be patient, then the 2nd plane hit praise be to god! ill show you the video so maybe you can exercise your brain cells. better to listen to CNN where real journalist do real investigation then some moron saying what he "THINKS " happen.
Like i said that's your opinion you don't know what happened up there,m you don't know if they killed someone up there to scare em all, (FYI box cutters can cut a throat easy). i also worked in manufacturing (A.P.I radio therefroming/CNC) and there are different box cutters and the ones you had are pieces of shit, i had a box cutter that was specifically made for cutting plastic, what you think these guys went to walgreens and got the cheapest box cutter they can find? is that your theory?
NIST REPORT DID NOT EXPLAIN A DAMN THING. IT ONLY SHOWED HOW RIDICULOUS THE SO CALLED SCIENTISTS COULD BE WHEN THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF EVIL DOERS. ANY AMERICAN WITH EVEN A PEA SIZE BRAIN COULD FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT OR KEEP SLEEPING AND KEEP GETTING SCREWED!
@eerginer I TOTALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NIST REPORT IS BUT I'M GOING TO YELL A BUNCH OF NON-SENSE ON YOUTUBE! I WAS RAISED ON FRUIT LOOPS AND TEXT MESSAGING BUT THEN I SAW THAT AWESOME DOCUMENTARY THE MATRIX AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE!
@ChampionofFreedom if you believe this Conspiracy theory i hear al-qaeda is looking for muslim americans to help train in explosions to kill americans, avenge your fallen comrades and help Al-qaeda destroy our government if you believe they are behind it. just convert to islam. devout your life to islam and jihad lean the koran so you don't sound like a spy and go after the ones that are guilty. cause terrorist don't sit by complaining about government, they do something about it.. you should to
@jdogg781517 you hear al-qaeda is looking for muslim americans? do you hang out with them? im a muslim (not in the US) and take my advise, 1000 good friends is not enough, a bad one is too much
@ChampionofFreedom i dont think you can speak for teh people aboard the plane who were threatened with box cutters. you dont know what happened up there. and yes we all know government is evil and doesn't care about anything but them self's. but like i said kaliek shiek muhamid and usama bin laden who are affiliated with al-qaeda admitted to the attacks and brag about it, look at the videos of him bragging about it 1 year after the attack. look up kaliek sheik Muhammad testimony on Google
@ChampionofFreedom I 100% agree with you no one is arguing that. the argument is it it a conspiracy or not. but kaliek sheik Muhammad admitied to the 9-11 attacks, he also is a Taliban leader who met with bin laden to organize the plan.
@blackjerryboymetal Tell me one thing on list not true, call me names dont change truth of what happened, dude..Just the way white hose acted, unless it was aliens...lol...lmfao
hey conspiracy morons go watch the video of the firefighter saying 2 hours before building 7 is going to collapse "you see where the white smoke is coming from you see where its leaning like this? its definitely comming down." but hes a liar and a puppet too right? PROVE IT... you morons believe anything,. yeah the government is gonna bomb its self to loose billions of dollars so we can go to war that cost billions of more dollars, man they are smart, almost as smart as you guys..
James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST’s investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11. We need another investigation please.
anyone who has honestly studied this issue knows that the official explanation is a sham - from top to bottom. i showed a vid of the planes hitting, buildings burning, and then collapsing to a friend from guatemala who had never seen it before. i didn't give him my own views beforehand. afterwards, he asked 'if the planes hit near the top, what made all the structure beneath the impacts collapse?'it's sooooo obvious! the scandal is that most people will not open their eyes to it.
Fires, heat, transformers, etc,etc.., No way..All three were emploded, squibs, speed, heat days after, the lies, no real investigation, the thermite finger print(to the exact match), in court would be called a slam dunk,..Plus Barry Jenings testamony, (OH, sorry found dead three days before he went public, running scared) We all (with half a brain) now know, after last 10yrs=inside job..reasons now clear, police state, oil, heroin, to kill our freedoms not terrorist!
I think that if TYT had any balls, they would look more into how the buildings collapsed. Intellectual integrity is very rare nowadays. And I'm a hardcore TYT fan.
I've watched many of your clips ie. Sarah Palin - laughed so hard i nearly cried. I want to say i am impressed that you are keeping an open mind. a very rare thing indeed. especially in the media. cheers
I could care less whether or not it was a conspiracy... I am only sad because so many family friends of mine as well as others were killed... Apart of my life was taken that day and that's why NEW YORKERS feel bad any any one else should get the fuck off our backs
I can garuntee however if al gore was president when this happened people would def not believe in conspiracy
Now that Ron Paul is running for president (for the 3rd time), truthers will get hard ons about it. But there's just one little, teensy weensy problem for them. He doesn't support any of the 911 conspiracy theories.
Lucky Larry Silverstein was forced to go to a doctors appointment on the morning of 9/11 by his wife instead of going to his office on the 88th floor of the WTC for a meeting!
I hope Cenk you have denounced and rebuked yourself for utter ignorance. Larry Silverstein admitted "pulling" the building. You really need to do your homework. Sometimes your faith is govt is what reminds me that you are not from America.
@MrDeppness Silverstein never "admitted to pulling the building. "Pull it" is not a term for implosion. He was talking about pulling the firefighting contingent because he thought it was in danger.
Besides, why would he decide during the taping of a documentary to incriminate himself and to do it in a vague and ambiguous way? Makes no sense.
@bagintree "We made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
He knew what happened. Why else did it fall at free fall speed? Fires cannot produce that effect. It's basic physics. Bombs took down all 3 buildings.
@MrDeppness You got the quote wrong. He didn't say "we" made that decision. He said "THEY" made that decision to pull. So you're implicating the firefighters in blowing up the building?
"It's basic physics."
Then why don't all the physicists agree with you?
"Bombs took down all 3 buildings."
There's just one little thing wrong with your assertion.
@bagintree No evidence? Okay, this is going to take time out of my day so I HOPE EVERYBODY IS READING THIS.
Some points about 9/11: Bin Laden and Bush family were friends going back 40 yrs. There were bomb sniffing tests wks leading up to 9/11. Witness heard bombs in buildings 1 and 2 BEFORE the planes hit and many were on the lower floors. All 3 buildings fell at free-fall speed which is only possible in controlled demolition. Bin Laden family was flown out to safety by our govt on 9/11...
@MrDeppness The Bin Laden family is very large. The family remains legit. There is just one bad apple in the family. He had nothing to do with his family, let alone Bush.
There was a security alarm the wknd before 911/ Extra dogs were brought in. They were later removed. But the normal level of dogs remained. At least one was killed on 911.
Only 1 guy claimed an explosion occurred before a plane hit WTC 1, but he was in the subbasement so how would he know? You claim is false re WTC 2.
@MrDeppness Your claim that the 3 buildings fell at free fall speed is false. First of all, it would be free fall acceleration, not speed. Second, even your fellow truthers acknowledge the twin tower collapses were slower than free fall. Third, only 2.25 seconds of WTC 7's collapse was at free fall. Overall, it fell 40% slower than free fall.
Silverstein didn't "buy" the WTC complex. He leased it. It would be stupid not to buy coverage for acts of terror after the 93 terrorist attack.
@bagintree Larry Silverstein bought the WTC 6 weeks prior to 9/11 under clause that he would be 100% covered for a terrorist attack. Demolition trucks were spotted on camera 1 block away from WTC buildings during the morning of 9/11. The beams that held up the building were designed to withstand such an attack and if not planted in bombs, the building would have melted off or fallen sideways only at the top. Supposed hijackers were taught to fly in America but not land. But wait, there's more...
susan lindauer, watch the vid if you havent already. she tells it all
treez78 4 days ago
Cenk, I gotta say, heat really made that building fall down clean. Right down into it's own footprint. Your a fucking cunt.
InuzukaCds 1 week ago
and look up Explosions before planes hit WTC 911 9/11
username7046 2 weeks ago
and look up 9/11: NIST engineer John Gross denies WTC molten steel (extended)
username7046 2 weeks ago
PoetryHound, look up "mit engineer disputes 911 theory of the wtc collapse".
username7046 2 weeks ago
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and conspiracy or not, you can't deny 9/11 served as the perfect excuse to invade 2 countries, loot their resources, and create a genocide on innocent people, not to mention the start of the "war on terror" creating laws that destroy many of people's liberties.
username7046 2 weeks ago
The firefighters said WTC 7 was unstable and likely to collapse.
That pretty much destroys the truther claims of a secret demo plot. So the truthers are forced to claim the firefighters were lying or were told what to say. Sure, that just makes complete sense. LOLOL!
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound no actually it doesn't, just because they said the building was unstable doesn't mean it's true, firefighters also said they were going to have to bring it down as well. And just so you know there is enough physical evidence that it was brought down with demo. Watch "Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7" from AE911TRUTH.
username7046 2 weeks ago
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PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
How about this guy? Another liar?
"Early on, there was concern that 7 World Trade Center might have been both impacted by the collapsing tower and had several fires in it and there was a concern that it might collapse. So we instructed that a collapse area be set up and maintained so that when the expected collapse of 7 happened, we wouldn't have people working in it. " – FDNY Chief Frank Cruthers
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
I suppose this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, right?
"The building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right." -FDNY Chris Boyle
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Did i ever said they were lying? I wasn't even implying it. Those were only some of the eye witnesses from that day and they were still unsure of the collapse. There were lots of mixed thoughts from what happened that day, and your just naming the ones that made theories on how the building would come down. Like I said, it doesn't mean it wasn't demo. If you want factual evidence of demolition, do some research! Watch AE911TRUTH's videos!
username7046 2 weeks ago
@username7046 Good, glad you don't think the firefighters were lying. I agree that they were not lying about the instability and likelihood of collapse. The fact that WTC 7 was widely expected to collapse undermines the black ops demo theory. The other thing that undermines it is the lack of evidence of explosives or incendiaries.
I don't trust Richard Gage or his ae911T videos. He says lots of false things.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Like what false things?
username7046 2 weeks ago
Here’s a sampling of Richard Gage's false claims:
1) The puffs of smoke/ash were squibs. WRONG - No demo experts agree.
2) Pyroclastic flows. WRONG. -Just smoke and dust.
3) Max Cleland resigned from 911 Commission in part because it didn't address WTC 7. WRONG - He never said that.
4) No deformations before WTC 7 collapsed. WRONG - The FDNY reported bulges and leaning & even used a transit to confirm it.
5) The FDNY & NYPD has inside information about demolitions. WRONG - Pure BS
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound First of all, those false claims are minor compared to the evidence that is shown in videos around the internet. What about the free-fall speed, what about the micro-spheres found in the wtc dust and the rest of the scientific evidence found in the site? What about the whole building falling at once into it's own footprint? What about the lack of investigating the site for explosives? Is he wrong about those claims?
username7046 2 weeks ago
@username7046 First, they aren't "minor" points according to Gage, who included all of them in his "Blueprint For Truth." Many truthers repeat those same false claims.
Second, the fact that he makes so many false claims, misrepresentations, unsubstantiated assertions, etc. makes him untrustworthy, at least to me.
No one says free fall automatically means demo. WTC 7 damaged buildings OUTSIDE its footprint. I've seen lots of explanations for the microspheres.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound no it didn't, ive seen pictures of the building and it barely hit the buildings right beside it. Look it up! And as for the free-fall, the building fell in UNDER 7 seconds, buildings do not fall like that unless they have a certain amount of columns cut at once at the exact same time. And what explanations did you hear for the microspheres? P.S. watch the videos i typed in for you to watch with some of the eye witnesses.
username7046 2 weeks ago
@username7046 It damaged 30 W. Broadway so badly that it required demolition and rebuilding. Look at the aerial photos.
The building fell in much longer than 7 seconds. How do you explain the 18 second seismic signal of the collapse? All you see in the videos is the top of the northern facade and part of the eastern facade collapsing. Not a single video shows the south or east sides, which collapsed first.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Iron-rich microspheres result form destruction of concrete, burning of paper, wood, plastic, from flyash, from welding, etc. They are ubiquitous. The RJ Lee study said they were to be expected. In fact, if you think they're connected to the melting of steel, then what you need to do is find someone who said chunks of resolidified steel were found. But no one has reported that.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
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@PoetryHound Like I said, conspiracy or not, you can't deny 9/11 served as the perfect excuse to invade 2 countries, loot their resources, and create a genocide on innocent people, not to mention the start of the "war on terror" creating laws that destroy many of people's liberties. They let it happen, that's what i'm also trying to say, either way, our government got 3000 americans killed and knew that it would happen. Just as bad as putting bombs in the WTC.
username7046 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Oops, I meant that all you see in the videos is the top of the Northern facade and part of the WESTERN facade collapsing. You can't tell from the videos what happened on the south and east sides, let along the interior areas of the building.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound But how can you explain the government secrecy and suspicion and how much money they put into the 9/11 investigation? Please do explain.
username7046 2 weeks ago
@username7046 Sorry, I'm not going to play the What-about-this-What-about-that game. It's endless. I've responded to your other questions but you haven't responded to my questions or to my points. So I'm done. I'll just say that I agree with you that the government secrecy is excessive. The government tends to do that. They're secretive about lots of things that they don't need to be. Bush didn't want more money spent because he worried the investigation would turn political.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound yeah but they seem a bit too secretive about questions concerning 9/11. Just saying. and Just so you know, you may be right about it not being demolition, but either way they let it happen and still ended up being just as bad as being demolition. That's what i'm more concerned about.
username7046 2 weeks ago
@username7046 If you listen to his entire "Blueprint" presentation, one of the things you realize he does is he claims thermite was used because it disguises the demolition by not making loud explosive sounds. Then later in the presentation he talks about the ejection of the steel columns and says that could only be the result of detonation charges. Do you see the contradiction?
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
A liar?
“We were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Ctr would collapse…Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors.” –FDNY Dep. Chief Peter Hayden
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
This guy's not telling the truth, right?
“The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing.” FDNY Chief Frank Fellini
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
"But as we got deeper and deeper into the Bush administration I started to think well..."
niverent 1 month ago
Wankers make extraordinary claim in DENYING what is obviously DEMOLITIONS taking place.
Wankers fail to show how a structural collapse can possibly PULVERIZE concrete into a fine dust without the aid of explosives.
Wankers fail to explain how fires that the firefighters claimed were under control, can bring two towers down?
Wankers fail to explain how WTC7 collapsed due to spot fires.
Wankers fail to explain the damage and dead people in the tower lobbies as though BOMBS had been detonated.
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
NOT ONE TARGET on 911 was NOT surrounded by CONTROVERSY of "how did they do that"
HOW DID A JET PENETRATE the many LAYERS of the Pentagon and leave a MISSILE hole?
LOL
WTC7
LOL the smoking gun
FLIGHT 93???
So was it shot down by the Air Farce or were the passengers dead Heroes?
The entire day is cloaked in controversy.
What wankers like you do not like to admit is it took 50 years to prove PEARL HARBOR was an INSIDE JOB too!!
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
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islandbuoy4 2 months ago
Nice Jayar collage LMAO
alaskachillydog 2 months ago
IT has taken them 10 years to put together a BS report, that matches all of the BS LIES they have been spewing?
Of course, it took them 10 years to cover their tracks.
Wankers who want to beLIEve in this nonsense have no idea that folks like the CIA and FBI have 'disinformation' departments?
DUH DUH DUH
IDIOTS have such short memories of what the US government has done to its own sheeple in secret.
IDIOTS are in denial about the most pervasive propaganda machine since the NAZIs >> the USA
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
WTC7 proof:
>>> youtube. com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=972ETepp4GI
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
this stupid video starts "A government report came out about WTC7.....blah blah blah"
so what?
big fucking deal....where is it written in stone I should trust the US government.
LOL LOL LOL
DUH first can I have evidence that I can trust the USA government.
Noam Chomsky who is more well read than 99.9% of the ignorant EWE-tube sheeple also suggests we cannot TRUST US foreign policy.
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
Hey did the conspiracy theorists make up the LIE called WMD?
NO
Who made up that LIE leading an invasion of Iraq called Gulf War 2?
US government!
Who made up the LIE leading to Gulf War 1 in early 1990s?
Remember the LIE about BABY INCUBATORS that got the Merikan sheeple all upset? Later found out to be a HOAX, a big FIB that a NYC Advertising Firm made up to sway public opinion, to help get merikan sheeple interested in another CRUSADE? YES!
your IGNORANCE is not my bliss....stupid humans
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
Even IF this was the biggest conspiracy in world history, why in god's name would the government conduct "CONTROLLED" demolitions?!?! Obviously if they were taking down two of the biggest skyscrappers of all time they didn't give a shit about civillian casualties. So please, one of you 9/11 conspiracist tards, WHY WOULDN'T THE GOVT. JUST BOMB THE BUILDING SO IT CAME DOWN IN A LESS "CONTROLLED" LOOKING MANNER??!? Jesus fucking christ America, lets try some common fucking sense
durhamdf 2 months ago
People who believe the official story would also believe in a magic act that resulted in death. If david blaine or some other asshole put their girlfriend into a box, sawed it in half, seperated and tickled her foot so her head 10' feet away would giggle, and then when about to reconnect the boxes an explosion erupts and sawdust & a toenail are all found. Then you get an explanation from the box making company saying the girl died from the stress of being seperated, the mental strain was too mch
ThisPageStaysREAL 2 months ago
Newton disagrees with NIST. Let's see...free fall speed. perfectly symmetrical collapse. NANOTHERMITE. The conspiracy theory is NIST's.
In a conspiracy only a few need to know the entire picture. Scientific facts are just that. Who done it? PNAC. Mossad & Silverstein. Who knows. What about the story of a van on Geo. Wash. Bridge full of explosives that evening? Retracted. How about the celebrating Israelis? SOMEONE blew up the WTC. Who? Can you say gangstah government? jaxoons.com
jaxoons.com
jerjr49 2 months ago
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jerjr49 2 months ago
There is an easy way to stop people like the conspiracy theorists.... Don't let them leave school before they have passed a basic adult aptitude test like walking in a straight line or correctly labeling pictures of their arse holes and a hole in the ground.
greeny202a 2 months ago
fire and heat?
U R an asshole who can read?
FACT: until 911 not ONE steel structure had ever collapsed because of FIRE and HEAT???
duh you are good at reading and doing as you are told ya ignorant low brow human collecting a pay check...
read this:
I AM A PATRI-IDIOT
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 so why did they spend millions starting upgrade the north tower to protect its steel girders from fire? And why did the north tower which had recieved some of these renovations take so much longer to fall than the completely un-fire-protected south tower? Finally, why the fuck wouldn't the government just bomb the buildings in a manner that was less "controlled" looking? You conspiracist tards seem to think the govt. is simultaneously all powerful and legally retarded!
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
STFU
duh do try to stay focused ya fire retardant retard
we are talking about WTC7?
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 It was the same concept that brought down the towers and wtc7. Some structural damage combined with fire weakening the remaining steel supports. I know considering two things at once must me confusing for your retarded ass...
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
hey ya WTC7 wacko IF the corner of WTC7 was unsound WHY DID IT FALL DOWN into its footprint?
why did it not TIP over?
why did that wanker Larry Silverstein who HAD MOTIVE claim he spoke with the Fire Chief about PULLING the building?
Why did the report of WTC7 collapsing on the BBC come ahead of the actual event?
U R a wacko dude....that is why shit like 911 and the LIES called WMD and baby incubators being destroyed leading up to Gulf War ONE can happen.
IGNORANCE allows the BS!!
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 I think you missed your crazy pills buddy. Occums Razor says that the explanation with the fewet assumptions and complications is usually the correct one. Now did Larry Silverstein say to the fire chief "pull it" meaning detonate the explosives that he had secretly had installed throughout the building by ninjas in advance as he conspired with the u.s. government for the insurance money to kill 3000 of its own citizens to give justification for an invasion of afghanistan (contd)...
durhamdf 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 Or is it a much more simple and likely explanation that he didn't want to see any more deaths of firefighters, and said, screw it, the building is insured, the firefighters have told me the building is unstable and completely burned out, pull everyone out of there. You hear the words "pull it" and a moronically assume that this must be code word for start the demolition! YOU are the reason the rest of the world thinks Americans are retards with too much time on their hands! THANKS!
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
no IDIOT
"PULL IT' is a KNOWN demolition term....it is called a Freudian slip of the tongue?
DUH all that nonsense sheepish YOU mentions is just more stupid idiocy defending WHAT WAS SAID.
Stop twisting what Larry the Liar REALLY meant.
Larry and his buddies made out like BANDITS.
That is a fact of life lost on wackos like you who try to add new meaning to the demolition term 'PULL IT'
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 LOL you got all that from TWO WORDS fucktard! HAHAHAHAH "pull it" could mean a million things. And in demolition "pull it" refers to the act of PULLING THE BUILDING WITH CABLES, not leveling it with explosives. So that assumption is retarded on its face. Again, little boy, occam's razor... was it ninja demolition squads and a massive conspiracy with the govt? or was it simply a man saying enough, it isn't worth the lives of riefighters to save my building, just pull the operation.
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
U R correct
'pull it' in your case means 'pull it out ya wanker' and start being a jerk off, start with the master-baiting.
No ya ignorant twat the charges were placed WTC1 and WTC2 and WTC7 long long BEFORE the event....at any point in time.
DUH DUH DUH
you would not make a good terrorist, YOU are far too stupid
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 you fail 3rd grade reading comprehension. All I said was extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your extraordinary cliam, that three skyscrappers in New York had been drilled and fit with explosives without anyone noticing in a govt conspiracy to kill 3000 Americans, to give the justification for a war, is backed up by two fucking words that could be interpreted a million different ways! You sound like a fundamentalist christian claiming the tides proove god exists!
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
HEY dummy take a look at the right, search for MIT ENGINEER DISPUTES 911, he will explain how and when the charges were laid....you are quite the stooge.
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 HAHA thanks for proving my point. Jeff King was an elctrical engineer, not a structural engineer and gave that profession up 3 decades ago to persue a degree and later a career as a doctor. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence! All you have is a youtube video of a clip (most likely taken out of context) of a non-expert in the relevant field, talking out his ass about things he doesn't understand. It says a lot that your "proof" is a youtube video little boy
durhamdf 2 months ago
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islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
Hardly dude.
You just proved mine.
That you are an ignorant twat that only gives AD HOMINEM evidence.
A wanker like you based on your last stupid response would not know what the word POLYMATH means?
Like I said U need to go back to schule and expand your limited horizons.
I am still waiting for a link to your stupid website??? or maybe a photo of your PhDuh dippy-ploma???
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 LOL little boy how does a degree in electrical engineering give someone credibility when talking about the structural integrity of a skyscaper? You morons will listen to anyone that agrees with your retarded point of view no matter how unqualified. This isn't an ad hominem attack, it is the simple due dilligence of anyone who isn't a complete moron to check the qualifications of any "experts" one bases their ENTIRE ARGUMENTS ON! Apparently you failed lab science in high "schule" HA!
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
LOL
dude take a look at the wanker pretending to be a newscaster in this VIDEO?
dude take a look at that buffoon your president GW Bush, who could read a teleprompter too!!
dude you are clearly an IGNORANT chimp who beLIEves what the buffoons tell them.
LOL
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
the IGNORANT twat that you are still has not looked up the meaning of POLYMATH???
LOL
wanker
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 HAHA is that supposed to show your intelligence little boy? That you can parrot words you heard on youtube videos but clearly don't understand since I addressed that in my last comment! I said "how does a degree in electrical engineering give someone credibility when talking about the structural integrity of a skyscaper" the suggestion being, why does being a renaissance man of sorts make one more qualified to give their opinion on matters in which they are completely untrained?!
durhamdf 2 months ago
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islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
HAHAHA the ignorant twat continues with the AD HOMINEM attacks.
Two or more can play that game ya wanker.
Why don't you just point out all of the flaws in that video by Jeff King?
EH?
Instead of attacking the messenger Jeff King, WHAT exactly in his message is so wrong?
He raises valid concerns.
You do not have to be a structural engineer HIRED and PAID for by the government to suss out TRUTH.
I see a conflict of interest re: FEMA, IF folks are suggesting it is an inside job?
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
You appear far too stupid to even understand how stupid your questions sound?
I LIKE ALL OF WHAT HE SAYS.
NOW it is your turn scumbag to state your case or STFU?
You really need to point out ALL OF THE FLAWS in that video by Jeff King, show me how qualified you are in appraising his work >>> post your CRITIQUES of Jeff King on the page where the videos are posted >>> until YOU do, it is obvious U R one numb and numb seegullible whose only defense is to attack other people :)
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 Your first clue that Jeff King is a retard would be that he doesn't once try to prove that it was a controlled demolition, just that the towers couldn't have fallen due to structural damage and fire from which he then jumps imediately to so it was a controlled demo. The second clue would be that he doesn't analyze a single claim of NIST from an engineering perspective, he just parrots the same moronic assumptions truthers like yourself spew out of their mouths like verbal diarrhea
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
One clue U R a troll is the fact U first claimed the electrical engineer could not describe the 'demolition' which according to you NOW, he does not even attempt to explain? (U R a hypocrite is clear!)
Next clue U R a piece of human ca ca is the fact IGNORANT you expect somebody ASKING the obvious questions to GIVE ALL the answers?
Obviously NIST failed in their BS summary of how it happened?
NIST got to examine all the 'evidence'?
LOL that is ONE of the obvious peeves ya twat.
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
Jeff King does not look or sound like a RETARD dude, like I said he appears more polymath..
But you do appear like a RETARD....not a polymath.....but in fact more like 'polly want a cracker?'
Mind posting a picture of yourself cracker jack?
So I in FACT know what a RETARD looks like?
LOL
thanks
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
please explain:
youtube. com/watch?v=NL91DdZyVPg&feature=related
nobody heard explosions?
LOL
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
so fucktard IF PULL IT means PULL IT with cables, where were the cables? what a wanker you are, do you ever hear yourself think ya dink? it is not deafening, it is a whimper, a whisper, a pffft
Larry the Liar said by "pull it" he meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building?
Will you wackos get your fucking stories straight before going public with your ill contrived statements...please?
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@islandbuoy4 HAHAHh are you retarded? I never siad the buildings were pulled with cables, I said they fell from structural damage and fire. I am showing that your theory that 2 words proves a controlled demo is retarded especially since those words don't even mean controlled demo in the demolition industry!!! He said "pull it" meaning pull the operation to save the building when it was clearly damaged beyond repair, was insured, and hundreds of firefighters had died that day already!
durhamdf 2 months ago
@durhamdf
NO you must be retarded, blind, deaf, dumb?
There is a video on this page at the right.
Take a look at the right.
MIT ENGINEER DISPUTES 911
youtube. com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg&feature=related
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
"they made the decision to pull, and we watched the building collapse"
-Larry the Liar Silverman
VIDEO EVIDENCE: youtube. com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
Sounds straight forward to me, considering we have EXERTS on record saying it looks just like a demolition.
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
BUT LARRY THERE WERE NO FIREFIGHTERS IN THE BUILDING FIGHTING FIRES YA LIAR, BEEN ORDERED OUT HOURS AGO
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
@durhamdf
no you are the reason the world thinks Merikans are RETARDS
you who ignore the obvious
Who made up the WMD conspiracy?
US government is the answer...
Who invented the BS story about the incubators leading up to Gulf War I?
US government is the answer....
IDIOTS cannot add up the facts of life?
islandbuoy4 2 months ago
Yep believe the government, Everything they tell you is fact. They never tested for explosives yet they know none were found. They suspended the law of gravity so it sped up a falling building to "look"like free fall. Awesome Cenk another cheerleader for the government about the one Obvious thing that happened that day that is hardly mentioned.
TheStrazy 4 months ago
The NIST report is instantaneously recognized as disinformation, a lie, because the model presented does not match what was recorded by about least a dozen film cameras. Most notably, their depiction of a buckling and twisting of the building.
Next up, NIST makes another cartoon, this one showing how the Sun revolves around the Earth.
tobiasaurusrex 4 months ago
Why are we "conspiracy theorists"? we are "alternate explanation"ists. No research that the govt has put out is scientific.
a10fjet 4 months ago
@a10fjet unscientific research? can you explain that to me?
Woodawesome 4 months ago
this is the one thing cenk is so far off on. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that they were controlled demolitions. just think about it a little. yeah, they're big, so think of something on a small scale - a model in your living room. it's made of steel and concrete and stands about 7 ft tall. light a kerosene fire about 1/3 of the way down. how long does it need to burn before it comes crashing down just like they did on that day? it won't happen because it's physically impossible.
ho2cultcha 4 months ago
The World's greatest terrorist attack destroys 2 of the world's largest buildings which are the hub of the world's largest economy and the world's most powerful government, with access to some of the world's greatest scientists, perform one of the world's most inconclusive and unrecognised investigations and the world's fastest cleanup of evidence in the world's history. Hmmmm.... somethings fishy.
Assimilate71 5 months ago
@Assimilate71 Unrecognized? NIST's findings are the basis for ongoing research on structural design and fire protection and have resulted in new building codes and standards all over the country.
Fastest cleanup? It took 9 months to clear the site.
PoetryHound 5 months ago
watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
The owner of WTC7 said that the building was "Pulled" ie demolished.
spiltmilkmaniac 5 months ago
@spiltmilkmaniac Wrong. He never said the building was pulled. He was referring to pulling the firefighting crew.
bagintree 5 months ago
what is your problem? did you fall from your crib as a baby or were you just born terminally stupid. a building collapses symmetrically, in 6.5 seconds,across the 300' width of the building, a football field, into it's own footprint. you're OK with that? LOL. nanothermite, active and remnants were found. % per volume implies tons of it. no mistaking it. steel microspheres. eutectic steel. if anyone is still listening to you they must be as stupid as you. don't defend monsters. prosecute them.
jerjr49 5 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If WTC 7 was destroyed via controlled demolition, how do you explain firefighters predicting the building's collapse 3 hours before the actual collapse?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
ctcole77 5 months ago
@jerjr49 Why do I always have to repeat myself with the kooks? No, "nanothermite" was not found. Only Steven jones & his crew claim that & they made all sorts of errors. No replication. No corroboration. And entirely different effect from the corrosion from a eutectic.
For the second time, who says free fall can only be caused by explosives? That's right, WHO?
BTW, the collapse wasn't symmetrical, not in its footprint (It damaged bldgs OUTSIDE its footpring), & longer than 6.5 secs.
PoetryHound 5 months ago
simple physics: no building can fall at free fall, which NIST concedes, in a perfectly symmetrical fashion, across 300' width, without the use of explosives. And just coincidentally, explosives were found in the form of active nanothermite, which could be ignited, and remnants of ignited NT. NIST should be indicted and squeezed until they cough up the trail of the devil.
jerjr49 5 months ago
@jerjr49 "simple physics"
You mean "misinterpreted physics." I've never seen so many people claim to be on the side of physics and then proceed to botch its application. So who says free fall can only be caused by explosives? No one except truthers.
Only Steven Jones & his crew claim nanothermite & they have all sorts of methodological errors in their paper published in a pay-to-publish bottom-feeder journal. That's why the NT theory has sunk like a stone in the scientific world.
PoetryHound 5 months ago
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”-Joseph Goebbels
jerjr49 5 months ago
sooooooo is cenk with us?
KennyBare 6 months ago
Get a clue people. It not even worth arguing you. What heat? those two small fires.
Havent you listened to the firefighters and listened to the explosions? Jesus, you are all in denial. I could go on for hours, but its clear that none of you crazies who think we are nuts have done any research. Im not talking about watching a video or two, but real research. You know the kind that takes thousands of hours like I have or at least a couple hundred. If you have you would be on our side.
topcoatpaver 6 months ago
@topcoatpaver Well, if you've done the research like you claim, and not just looked at shitty conspiracy sites, then you'd know that demo experts don't say the twin towers were brought down with explosives. You'd also know that explosions are common in fires and that random explosions that don't cause any apparent structural collapses are probably not detonation charges. You would know that not one firefighter said he literally thinks those were real detonation charges.
PoetryHound 6 months ago
@PoetryHound YOU would kno that there's plenty of first responders claiming to have multiple explosions. there was a whole firehouse saying it looked like a demolition. my brother was the captain of the second unit to arrive at the pentagon and there was no evidence of a plane.
jeversburg 6 months ago
@jeversburg Maybe you missed the part where I said explosions are common in fires.
FL 77 plane parts and passenger remains were found at the Pentagon even if your brother didn't see them.
PoetryHound 6 months ago
@PoetryHound sure explosions are common in fires. but do u mind to tell me why standard opperating procedures in regards to preserving evidence and investigating where blatantly disregarded in NYC? they found molten steal. standard protocall states that upon finding the presence of molten steal u MUST test for the presence of thermite/explosives b/c no fire alone can do that. and ur wrong about the fl77 parts being found. no serial numbers or anything was extrapolated. if so plz show me
jeversburg 6 months ago
@jeversburg Are you actually advocating that they should have saved over 200,000 tons of steel plus all the debris that it took 9 months to clear? For what possible reason? Engineers from ASCE and SEAoNY already examined as much steel as they wanted. They found no indication of explosives use.
No molten steel was found.
Who says plane impacts plus fire couldn't have don that?
So the first responders were lying about finding FL77 debris? Really?
PoetryHound 6 months ago
@PoetryHound no no no within 24 hours of the attack dont u remember rudy guliani gloating about the fact that 72 truckloads of steel had been whisked away and sent over seas? they got rid of the crime scene! and surely u must not be talking about the pentagon. i could have cleaned up the debris bymeself in a couplke of days
jeversburg 5 months ago
@jeversburg No, there were no 72 truckloads removed within 24 hours. That makes no sense. For the first few weeks there was a rescue operation. Then it became a recovery operation and it took 9 months total to clear the site.
PoetryHound 5 months ago
@PoetryHound I live in New York and know many firefighters. Over a dozen of them told me they believe they were real detonation charges. Many more than the dozen told me they don't believe it was detonation charges. I'm not looking to argue and you don't even know where I stand on the issue but for you to say that not one firefighter thinks those were real detonation charges is just untrue. I'm sure they are the minority but many believe those buildings were detonated.
theelusiveone 4 months ago
@theelusiveone "Over a dozen of them told me they believe they were real detonation charges"
Can you corroborate this claim of yours?
PoetryHound 4 months ago
@theelusiveone After going around talking to dozens and dozens of firefighters for some reason, you still don't know where you stand? Hmmmm . . .
Must have taken you awhile to go around interviewing these guys. You're pretty lucky they would tell the truth to a total stranger when they supposedly haven't told it to anyone else.
PoetryHound 4 months ago
@PoetryHound Wow you are just looking for a fight. I said "You don't even know where I stand on the issue". I made up my mind less than 30 days after it happened. As far as being a stranger to the firefighters well that is untrue also. I know many of them for over 20 years. Do you even read what other people type or are you just set in fight mode? Go ahead and have the last word. I will not even respond to your idiotic next comment.
theelusiveone 4 months ago
@theelusiveone On the internet, anyone can claim anything they want about themselves and what they've done. So I asked you if you could corroborate your claim that over a dozen told you they believe there were actual detonation chartes. Well, can you?
The reason it's suspicious is because firefighters have been very outspoken about the lung damage they incurred and demanding govt reparations. It's not like them to suddenly go silent regarding the murder of 343 of their own. Not even a leak.
PoetryHound 4 months ago
@PoetryHound Yeh, because 'experts' with tenure paid by a welfare system enfored by the government are going to be completely unbiased, RIGHT?
If you were actually interested in the truth, you would already know that enough thermite was found in building remains to account for all of the building demolitions.
it is all here: /watch?v=henRQymtt5M
braddles86 4 months ago
@braddles86 "enough thermite was found in building remains to account for all of the building demolitions"
Guess what? You're the only person in the world that makes the claim that that much was found. LOL! And if enough unreacted thermite was found to bring down the buildings, that would all be in addition to all the thermite that brought down the buildings with thermite reactions. So you're basically claiming the perpetrators used double the thermite they needed. LOL!
PoetryHound 4 months ago
@therealgreenbag No one watches CNN? LOL! That's news to me! It's on in nearly every International Airport in the WORLD. Or at least the ones I have been in, and I have been to 46 different countries on five different Continents.
NowKillYourself 6 months ago
It was not just the heat but 25% of the south was was gone from falling debris...
hellasow 6 months ago
We, who believe that this was an inside job are not the "Conspiracy Theorist's" . We are "REALISTS". Those who don't think this is an inside job are the real CT's!
Hundreds of coincidences had to happen that day not to mention the complete failure of ALL of our countries defenses on that day. How the hell does a plane (even though no plane ever hit the Pentagon) enter restricted air space a long time after the first of many planes had been "hijacked" and crashed into NYC with out being shot
topcoatpaver 6 months ago 4
down. That's right, it doesn't happen unless it was supposed to happen. Why haven't we ever seen a video of the plane that would have flown right by 86 cameras around Arlington, VA. Why, because there wasn't one. Do some research before you question us! We know what happened that day. Some day you will as well...
topcoatpaver 6 months ago
@topcoatpaver "We know what happened that day."
No you don't. You all disagree with each other. It's hilarious. The Pentagon was hit by a missile! No wait! It as an A3 Skywarrior! No wait! It was a Global Hawk! No wait! It was a 757 but Hanjour wasn't at the controls! No wait! There wasn't even a plane, it was done with explosives! Bunch of clowns.
PoetryHound 6 months ago
@PoetryHound Do some research and learn some thing!
topcoatpaver 6 months ago
@topcoatpaver You mean look at Joe Blow's unaccountable, piece-of-shit kookspiracy video and web site? No, that's not "research." But it is fun to read that hilarious nonsense. That's how I found out that each twoofer has his own theory about what hit the Pentagon and they often conflict with each other. LOL! You guys have a lot of other conflicting claims. At least you're good for comic amusement.
PoetryHound 6 months ago
You have to wonder how the 9/11 conspiracy morons can possibly believe all the bullshit they spout. Since it's not grounded in reality, I think it's based on their political outlook (anti-Bush, anti-government). It's healthy to be skeptical of the gov't, or anyone for that matter, but these guys elevate it to a level of fruitcakery & see everything through the distorted lens of conspiracy. Watch out! There’s a CIA agent hiding in your closet!
PoetryHound 6 months ago
The Manhattan Project, Forcing the Japanese hand with Pearl Harbor, The Assassination of JFK, and RFK are secrets that were kept. How many people worked on the B2 Stealth Bomber, The SR71, and the iphone? It is like this. You either believe in the cause, or they pay you off to be on their side or they threaten your family. If all that does not work, they just put a bullet in your head or you kill yourself in an auto accident. i.e. during the JFK assassination reinvestigation the witnesses died
lizardfirefighter110 7 months ago
John Kerry admitts that the build came down in controled demilition.
aspurr20 7 months ago
@therealgreenbag except you're forgetting the fact that the Taliban (by Pashtun law) would've kicked him and Al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan if he ever confessed to such a thing. When Bin Laden finally did reveal it, the Taliban had been crippled, and even today they no longer choose to associate themselves with Al-Qaeda.
DoctorWitten 7 months ago
@ChampionofFreedom Just because the government aint a bunch of angels doesn't mean they're devilish geniuses. the government is far too incompetent to keep secret a conspiracy of such a massive scale. the government doesn't need to kill over 2,000 of its own people to do something it wants or make a profit. just look at the loop holes they put bills, trade agreements or the shitty excuses for going to war. they hide things in plain sight but the average joe would rather make crazy theories.
DoctorWitten 7 months ago
@therealgreenbag no one watches CNN anymore except for old people. and there is video of usama bin laden confirming the plan in detail and bragging about it in a video with his followers saying things like " when the 1st plane hit i told em to wait just wait, be patient, then the 2nd plane hit praise be to god! ill show you the video so maybe you can exercise your brain cells. better to listen to CNN where real journalist do real investigation then some moron saying what he "THINKS " happen.
jdogg781517 7 months ago
Like i said that's your opinion you don't know what happened up there,m you don't know if they killed someone up there to scare em all, (FYI box cutters can cut a throat easy). i also worked in manufacturing (A.P.I radio therefroming/CNC) and there are different box cutters and the ones you had are pieces of shit, i had a box cutter that was specifically made for cutting plastic, what you think these guys went to walgreens and got the cheapest box cutter they can find? is that your theory?
jdogg781517 7 months ago
NIST REPORT DID NOT EXPLAIN A DAMN THING. IT ONLY SHOWED HOW RIDICULOUS THE SO CALLED SCIENTISTS COULD BE WHEN THEY SOLD THEIR SOULS TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF EVIL DOERS. ANY AMERICAN WITH EVEN A PEA SIZE BRAIN COULD FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT OR KEEP SLEEPING AND KEEP GETTING SCREWED!
eerginer 7 months ago
@eerginer I TOTALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NIST REPORT IS BUT I'M GOING TO YELL A BUNCH OF NON-SENSE ON YOUTUBE! I WAS RAISED ON FRUIT LOOPS AND TEXT MESSAGING BUT THEN I SAW THAT AWESOME DOCUMENTARY THE MATRIX AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE!
911sausageman 7 months ago 11
@ChampionofFreedom if you believe this Conspiracy theory i hear al-qaeda is looking for muslim americans to help train in explosions to kill americans, avenge your fallen comrades and help Al-qaeda destroy our government if you believe they are behind it. just convert to islam. devout your life to islam and jihad lean the koran so you don't sound like a spy and go after the ones that are guilty. cause terrorist don't sit by complaining about government, they do something about it.. you should to
jdogg781517 7 months ago
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@jdogg781517 you hear al-qaeda is looking for muslim americans? do you hang out with them? im a muslim (not in the US) and take my advise, 1000 good friends is not enough, a bad one is too much
me123775 7 months ago
@ChampionofFreedom i dont think you can speak for teh people aboard the plane who were threatened with box cutters. you dont know what happened up there. and yes we all know government is evil and doesn't care about anything but them self's. but like i said kaliek shiek muhamid and usama bin laden who are affiliated with al-qaeda admitted to the attacks and brag about it, look at the videos of him bragging about it 1 year after the attack. look up kaliek sheik Muhammad testimony on Google
jdogg781517 7 months ago
@ChampionofFreedom I 100% agree with you no one is arguing that. the argument is it it a conspiracy or not. but kaliek sheik Muhammad admitied to the 9-11 attacks, he also is a Taliban leader who met with bin laden to organize the plan.
jdogg781517 7 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Tell me one thing on list not true, call me names dont change truth of what happened, dude..Just the way white hose acted, unless it was aliens...lol...lmfao
4624tone 7 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal No, you balding poodle smelling fag,.......Go fuck your trailer whoring mother! Bitch!!!!
robinmjsears 7 months ago
hey conspiracy morons go watch the video of the firefighter saying 2 hours before building 7 is going to collapse "you see where the white smoke is coming from you see where its leaning like this? its definitely comming down." but hes a liar and a puppet too right? PROVE IT... you morons believe anything,. yeah the government is gonna bomb its self to loose billions of dollars so we can go to war that cost billions of more dollars, man they are smart, almost as smart as you guys..
jdogg781517 7 months ago
@jdogg781517 hours to the actual fall.
robinmjsears 7 months ago
"WTC 7's structural integrity and its footprint" youtube that and get educated, read the description and not just watch the video.
jdogg781517 7 months ago
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cappucinokid100 7 months ago
James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST’s investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11. We need another investigation please.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
This guy is a tool. A corporate puppet paid by Zionist terrorists.
scotthudek01 8 months ago
@scotthudek01 I agree 100%. Fucking puppet
EvilWarlock666 8 months ago
anyone who has honestly studied this issue knows that the official explanation is a sham - from top to bottom. i showed a vid of the planes hitting, buildings burning, and then collapsing to a friend from guatemala who had never seen it before. i didn't give him my own views beforehand. afterwards, he asked 'if the planes hit near the top, what made all the structure beneath the impacts collapse?'it's sooooo obvious! the scandal is that most people will not open their eyes to it.
ho2cultcha 8 months ago
Fires, heat, transformers, etc,etc.., No way..All three were emploded, squibs, speed, heat days after, the lies, no real investigation, the thermite finger print(to the exact match), in court would be called a slam dunk,..Plus Barry Jenings testamony, (OH, sorry found dead three days before he went public, running scared) We all (with half a brain) now know, after last 10yrs=inside job..reasons now clear, police state, oil, heroin, to kill our freedoms not terrorist!
4624tone 8 months ago
Im an Iraqi Freedom Veteran out of Fort Hood Texas...........Fuck this country.
robinmjsears 8 months ago
WHY FUCKING LABEL EVERYTHING ''CONSPIRACY THEORY'' JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE QUESTIONING GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!
sammysnakejones 8 months ago
'Tuesday Morning in September'
The most complete video account in real-time
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TuesdayMorningInSept 8 months ago
And for his general ability to not cross the line... and tell the truth... he went to MSNBC.
rolomail 8 months ago
I think that if TYT had any balls, they would look more into how the buildings collapsed. Intellectual integrity is very rare nowadays. And I'm a hardcore TYT fan.
shaygahweh 9 months ago
Well have you heard of Barry jennings?He heard the explosions
ave383 9 months ago
@ave383 Yea and now the dudes dead, heart attack apparently but his family wont talk.
BannedByTheTube 8 months ago
@BannedByTheTube Funny you should say that. I just saw an interview about how the cia had a heart attach gun. Youtube it.
ave383 8 months ago
I've watched many of your clips ie. Sarah Palin - laughed so hard i nearly cried. I want to say i am impressed that you are keeping an open mind. a very rare thing indeed. especially in the media. cheers
dapperdan623 9 months ago
Science and logic have spoken. I agree with the Turks for once. Shame on the idiot conformist with no proof.
RandomDetritus 9 months ago
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee Nice comment.
RandomDetritus 9 months ago
for the first time in history!!!
i agree with this guy!
1st time of a lot of things that day!
bluegrassreb1 9 months ago
Common sense isn't very common is it Cenk?
Fire could NOT bring down and building symmetrically!!!!
It would have to melt/weaken ALL core columns at the same time.
Otherwise, it goes down by falling over in the direction of the weakness.
Did you see symmetrical catastrophic fires Cenk? Duhhhh
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Getsen42 9 months ago
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee And so chaotic damage = coherent collapse, izat it?
2.25 sec of free fall indicates that there was NO structure at all to impede the downward motion.
and it would had to have been total for the entire building because the building kept its shape for that first 2.25 sec.
DeepSpace8andahalf 9 months ago
I could care less whether or not it was a conspiracy... I am only sad because so many family friends of mine as well as others were killed... Apart of my life was taken that day and that's why NEW YORKERS feel bad any any one else should get the fuck off our backs
I can garuntee however if al gore was president when this happened people would def not believe in conspiracy
ATeamAnglers 9 months ago
Truly the emperor is NAKED!
WTC7 was a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
2.25 sec of 9.8 m/s^2 acceleration is an UN-NATURAL act!
DeepSpace8andahalf 9 months ago
Now that Ron Paul is running for president (for the 3rd time), truthers will get hard ons about it. But there's just one little, teensy weensy problem for them. He doesn't support any of the 911 conspiracy theories.
bagintree 9 months ago
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9/11 = 100% Inside Job
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
Lucky Larry Silverstein was forced to go to a doctors appointment on the morning of 9/11 by his wife instead of going to his office on the 88th floor of the WTC for a meeting!
What a lucky guy.
TheMattswish 9 months ago
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BadBunnyRides 9 months ago
this is illogical.one person tells a lie therefore that person is not capable of telling the truth.
cassidy99ful 9 months ago
I hope Cenk you have denounced and rebuked yourself for utter ignorance. Larry Silverstein admitted "pulling" the building. You really need to do your homework. Sometimes your faith is govt is what reminds me that you are not from America.
MrDeppness 9 months ago
@MrDeppness Silverstein never "admitted to pulling the building. "Pull it" is not a term for implosion. He was talking about pulling the firefighting contingent because he thought it was in danger.
Besides, why would he decide during the taping of a documentary to incriminate himself and to do it in a vague and ambiguous way? Makes no sense.
bagintree 9 months ago
@bagintree "We made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
He knew what happened. Why else did it fall at free fall speed? Fires cannot produce that effect. It's basic physics. Bombs took down all 3 buildings.
YOUTUBE: "WTC 7 - Pull It By Larry Silverstein"
MrDeppness 9 months ago
@MrDeppness You got the quote wrong. He didn't say "we" made that decision. He said "THEY" made that decision to pull. So you're implicating the firefighters in blowing up the building?
"It's basic physics."
Then why don't all the physicists agree with you?
"Bombs took down all 3 buildings."
There's just one little thing wrong with your assertion.
No evidence to support it.
bagintree 9 months ago
@bagintree No evidence? Okay, this is going to take time out of my day so I HOPE EVERYBODY IS READING THIS.
Some points about 9/11: Bin Laden and Bush family were friends going back 40 yrs. There were bomb sniffing tests wks leading up to 9/11. Witness heard bombs in buildings 1 and 2 BEFORE the planes hit and many were on the lower floors. All 3 buildings fell at free-fall speed which is only possible in controlled demolition. Bin Laden family was flown out to safety by our govt on 9/11...
MrDeppness 9 months ago
@MrDeppness The Bin Laden family is very large. The family remains legit. There is just one bad apple in the family. He had nothing to do with his family, let alone Bush.
There was a security alarm the wknd before 911/ Extra dogs were brought in. They were later removed. But the normal level of dogs remained. At least one was killed on 911.
Only 1 guy claimed an explosion occurred before a plane hit WTC 1, but he was in the subbasement so how would he know? You claim is false re WTC 2.
bagintree 9 months ago
@MrDeppness Your claim that the 3 buildings fell at free fall speed is false. First of all, it would be free fall acceleration, not speed. Second, even your fellow truthers acknowledge the twin tower collapses were slower than free fall. Third, only 2.25 seconds of WTC 7's collapse was at free fall. Overall, it fell 40% slower than free fall.
Silverstein didn't "buy" the WTC complex. He leased it. It would be stupid not to buy coverage for acts of terror after the 93 terrorist attack.
bagintree 9 months ago
@bagintree Larry Silverstein bought the WTC 6 weeks prior to 9/11 under clause that he would be 100% covered for a terrorist attack. Demolition trucks were spotted on camera 1 block away from WTC buildings during the morning of 9/11. The beams that held up the building were designed to withstand such an attack and if not planted in bombs, the building would have melted off or fallen sideways only at the top. Supposed hijackers were taught to fly in America but not land. But wait, there's more...
MrDeppness 9 months ago
@MrDeppness Who says there were "demolition trucks" at the WTC buildings?
No building is designed to withstand fuel-laden jetliners used as missiles. That's nonsense.
Your claims about how the building should have fallen are not verified by any highrise structural engineers.
Yes, the hijackers didn't care about learning to land. Why would they? They only cared about being able to steer the planes into buildings.
bagintree 9 months ago