Knife Sharpening : Knife Sharpening: Whetstones

[tms1643]

Always use oil or water, unless you like buying stones and doing things the hard way.

[Imnon1]

Redundant title is redundant.

[Allysonphilly]

I assume you mean older ones should be sharpened by a pro?

[residentevil926]

@Allysonphilly  Some blades are hard to sharpen and can get damaged easily.

[Allysonphilly]

Thx for this! I collect cool knives but they're all dull! But now I can sharpen them!

[residentevil926]

@Allysonphilly Be careful them because some are hard to get the right angle and some it's better to get a

sharper to do it for you.There is anther video were he talks about this.

[76tammystanley]

Eh do what you want with your tools ..knife sharpening is one of those skills that its best to learn several different techniques. My preferred method is a quality Japanese waterstone

[bratstarr]

u hit it 4 times at the bginin ?????

[gunnargunnarssons]

The water also STOPS the knifes hardening surface of getting ruined, when you sharpen your knife without water...no good!!

[TzunSu]

@gunnargunnarssons No, it doesnt. Your confusing why water is used when using something that spins fast (Say, a Tormek) with why water is used for stone honing. The water used when using an old-style sharpening wheel, or a tormek, is for keeping the blade cold. Quick rotations can heat up a blade to where the tempering is no longer any good. When using a stone, the water (or oil, depending on stone type) is used to remove metal shavings, and to make new stone appear for faster cutting.

[imdb2004]

This was very helpful thank you for posting it!

[Goo59ber]

I was taught water may be better than oil on the higher grit stones. It keeps the wee metal and stone filings in suspension like using hot lather on your face. The stone and your face will appreciate the extra care. You can skip the minty sootheness on the stone, though. :-) I'm not dogging this guy. He is just passing down what he learned. It works. But, it was amazing what real stones, patience, and time could do with a Mommy-mailed-requested Ontario Marine knife in a DaNang mess hall.

[crazygeek777]

expert village: doing everything wrong since 2006

[KeithWasHere1]

my lanksy makes a hell of an edge. so does a 10" sander with 2000 grit sandpaper at 60/70 degrees..which is what most chisels are ground at.

[TzunSu]

@KeithWasHere1 Until the hardering in the blade goes to hell, and you need to start sharpening it all the time that is.

[KeithWasHere1]

@TzunSu i use knives and chisels almost every day..with my lansky i probably sharpen my pocket knife or utility knives once 3 or 4 times a month if that, and i use 2000th grit on all my chizels for use on hickory,oak,maple very often, and sharpen them even less than the carving knives..how would using a lanksy or 2000th grit sand paper make the hardness disappear? if your tool is a quality tool it will hold its edge,its not only about the sharpness its also about the angle to work at.

[KeithWasHere1]

Ive made chizels and knives before grabbing a slunk of Titanium or Tool steel off ebay and putting it at 60 or 70 degrees and have some that have lasted me the last 15 years and hardly ever need sharpening,even when i cut through a small nail or brad with reclaimed lumber! some special ones ive made for friends and family as gifts i have treated in liquid nitrogen locally and after that those sombitches keep there edge you can bet on it!

[SuperLongbeard]

@KeithWasHere1 What type titanium did you use? I had to machine titanium a few times at work and it was just a bit tought than aluminium.

[KeithWasHere1]

@SuperLongbeard Ti-6Al-4V,i tried unalloyed titanium once...that didn't work out to well..too soft.

[1HGClark]

wait.... he used the fine side of it first

[106640guy]

It's Whet not wet anyways.

[MPSecare]

You have to use water because it is the way of the Samurai.

[stormercody]

@MPSecare who cares about the way of the zipper face

[christhegreatish]

@MPSecare lol

[Ragingbeast345]

I wish I had your knife collection...

[flaggedowntown]

I have found in my experience of knife edge honing that all whetstones require a lubricant of one sort or another, this helps to wash away small particles of metal & thus prevent loading or clogging the surface of the whetstone. Some steel alloy types work better with oil, while others seem to prefer water as a lubricant. The most desireable whetstones are those with a loose bond to the abrasive, this includes most japanese water stones, & for oil Arkansas novaculite.

[cyberslick18]

@flaggedowntown You should make a video, you seem to have a pretty knowledgeable understanding of knife sharpening.

[whothq18]

should i soak a Whetstones ?

[rosaspepe]

unbelivable some of these people can be...anyway...i like you very much in the way you explain...and demonstrate. now i will get to sharpening my sissors and knifes...and beauty is in the eye of the beholder...and i think your cute! really! thank you!

[hermansprong]

he's ugly

[mrpicky510]

This is a little harder than it looks

[inuyasha9876]

could one use mineral oil for sharpening?

[tendoking48]

@inuyasha9876 I don't see why not, but I've never liked using oil. I just use a basic two sided whetstone from the hardware store and soak it in tap water for a minute. I may not be able to shave with my knives, but they're certainly sharp enough for their purpose.

[Master8laster]

It's official.Musashi is currently rolling over in his grave.

[tendoking48]

@Master8laster Musashi wasn't a swordsmith o.O mybe you meant Muramasa or Masamune (funny how similar those two names are :p )

[mandowarrior123]

@tendoking48 i think he was referring to Miyamoto Musashi, the swordsman, who would most likely be the one maintaining the blade (its not ideal to have to take a practical sword back to the maker every time it needed a sharpen i could imagine)

[tendoking48]

@mandowarrior123 Probably but that doesn't explain why he'd be rolling in his grave. I've actually tried this guy's techniques instead of sitting around and pretending I know everything about sharpening knives. He sounds a bit like Mr Rodgers, but the guy's methods are sound.

[mandowarrior123]

@tendoking48 well he is famous for his 21 precepts so presumably he was referring to one of those? perhaps '16. "Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful."' about the knives all around him? I don't know. but it might not be a comment on his technique.

[tendoking48]

@mandowarrior123 But those knives on the wall aren't weapons :p, maybe he sells them which would make him a Merchant instead of a Knight. Musashi's precepts wouldn't really apply to him then, unless he wrote books on Merchants, Artisans, and Farmers as well.

[Shrunkenhead61]

Is distilled water better? lol

This looks easy at first glance but takes skill.

[firebeaver39]

i have been told that it creates a ragged edge using water or oil

[KANIBAL846]

Do you think this guy knows a lot of biology anatomy and good places to dump bodies . what a pimp

[phonjohnn64]

call me old fasion and a hillbilly but i was tought to jest spit on the store.

[luigi636]

@phonjohnn64 try that in a commercial kitchen

[jackassunit22]

im on youtube to watch a video not read all that godamn crap

[RevengeOfRedBaron]

Is it just me or is sharpening a knife slightly addicting and a zen activity?

[erichoward15]

@RevengeOfRedBaron Its not just just you, I have knives that are razor sharp that i just cant keep my hands off of and its actually quite relaxing, your not alone.

[LiFetommi]

but it can't be done?

That's what it sounds like he said at the end . Anyhow i've checked the vids out like someone told me to, i wouldn't take advice from him (to the people wanting to learn)

[firebeaver39]

you arent supposed to used to use water or oil it suspends bits of metal and gives you a ragged edge

[adfgfds]

@firebeaver39

You use water or oil to remove the metal shards from the stone. If you don't, your stone will get clogged and you wont be able to sharpen your knife. I choose water over oil because oil can often leave a muck behind if not taken off afterwards. Plus water is free.

[RazdrazChelloveck]

he doesn't follow through with his slices, the tip of the knife isn't getting sharpened all the way

[dkbeebe]

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[JustinBaker2567]

When i switch sides, i just got left handed. It makes it easier to match the angle of the first side.

[XavierNinnis]

@JustinBaker2567 Interesting. Having always had the same difficulty (that of being not quite confidant of my ability to maintain an identical "angle of attack" when switching sides), I'm definitely going to make an honest attempt to learn your method. I'm about the least ambidextrous person you'd ever meet, but, in my case at least, much of MY problem seems, weird as it sounds, "visual", i.e. the way the angle appears to change due to perspective; rather than from a lack of manual coordination.

[Squillaempusa]

@XavierNinnis i too have had problems keeping the same angle on both sides. i have a "Smith's" (brand) sharpening system. it has a clamp/vise that holds the blade, and rods that attach to the stones, slide along a slot on the clamp, ensuring the same 22° angle on each side. works very well. $30 at Lowes.

[dogdogee]

Hi,

could you please tell me, which GRID do you use? Thanx

[buckster2424]

are those global cooking knives in the background on the magnets

[runforasthma]

@buckster2424 yes they are

[1PATRI0T]

Looks like he's using a different angle on the other side... Is that normal or correct?

[MATTNATTMATT]

@1PATRI0T

i though that too, but i dunno if its right

[nagrone87]

hes not using water cause hes teaching dumbasses how to do it.

[Ferbguy101]

@nagrone87 So true...

[YTBYlover]

WAT NO WATER? yah i duno about this.

[THEDROPPEDSOCK]

can i use an old leather belt as a strop?. I'm going to give it a go anyway!

[n1ck3o7]

the water STOPS the stone from getting clogged up with bits of the metal and keeps the stone in better working contidion. it also makes it far far far more efficient

[adfgfds]

@n1ck3o7

Exactly. Thank you. This needed to be said

[roadruner55]

@n1ck3o7 I have to say, other people using common sense for me is, kinda sorta awsome.

The internet isawsome

[redpinto]

where's the water?

[MadCowHerder]

Water is not always needed. Also, you do not necessarily do the same number on both sides of knife. You are taking off more material on the first side. Less material will be required to be removed to bring up the bur on the second side. You need to go by feel.

[TheGTHGl0bal]

you talk like the guy that teach break dance

[tarlachmgc]

The point of using oil is to prevent too much wearing of the blade, I've seen penknives kept for 10 years because oil was used in the sharpening

[lexmark136]

cant i just use a gringer?

[MrBillTroop73]

Yes, you could. You could also use a belt sander, but you'll have to be extremely careful about heat damage, and neither of those will give you the finest edge.

[SPARTAN1014299]

sharpening needs water!!! and that isn't the right direccion to sharpening a knife.

you need to aply pressure cuz u dont need much

steps just 10 per side with the hard stone and then 4per side with the fine side... asshole.

[logintoy0utube]

BrandonEclipse, I agree, he is NOT experienced, and his angles sound wrong ... I liked his Edges & Goals, this is BAD! Does any knowledgeable person agree with me (or not!) that the direction he is using is wrong?

Another thing, the "back" direction is DANGEROUS! ... buddy, you are here teaching learners, you HAVE TO make sure it is safe !

[Nevsky100]

I wish your videos would have been shown to idiots from Cutlery World who call themselves professionals but in fact have no knowledge about sharpening and types of steel they sell at all.

This applies to Canada as well.

[shhhakedown1979]

what number stone will get the job done? I know technique is most of it... but what should I buy?

[parrott15]

actually what the honing oil does is float the metal filings

so they dont clog the stone as fast

[BrandonEclipse]

Is it just me or does this guy put the knife on an angle twice as big as the first one when he switches sides?

[wolpack1116]

It can be, if the file will cut the steel used. Some knives have blades hard enough that a file will not bite into them or if it does bite, it will dull the file quickly. Soft blades can be done with a file. Harder blades will need a stone or other abrasive.

[RAGEGaming07]

lol what you do to one side of the blade do to the other he did one side 3 times the other 2 lol....

[AmithystTiger]

lol sharpening stones need no water or oil WET stones however do or i found dish warsher liquiad(biodegradeble)types will work in place of oil but leave ur stone greasy so i find ice water and or olive oil to work but i like to chill mine to keep off heat of friction if i need to sharpen with fast strokes but generaly cool water does fine

[adfgfds]

@AmithystTiger

WET stones and other sharpening stones require water to remove metal shards from sharpening your blade.

[squeakbrat]

I was wondering how long it will be before he "slices off a thin slice of palm".....I don't think I want to be pulling any sharpened knife towards my hand. LOL I thihk I'll do the other side as a leftie, just to be safe.

[babu21angel]

most of us are not ambidextrous and its hard to keep a certain angle. All it really requires is for one not to be a complete idiot and pay attention when holding sharp objects.

[wolpack1116]

One of the sharpening instruction books recommends avoiding oil or water. He seems to have read a part of that book. Whether they are needed depends on the stone. Water stones must have water. I used a Norton oil stone for years w/o oil. It did glaze, but a trip through the dishwasher cleared it out. The stone he's using isnt a cheap Walmart special. Norton makes some of the best abrasives around for sharpening knives.

[guitars777]

I use close to the same exact steps. I sharpen in the opposite direction as you but much of the remaining things that I o are close to you. I only stroke once on either side as I sharpen. I do this to retain as close to exact wear as humanly possible.

[pljker]

good vid...keep it up

[666satanicgoth666]

lol i found one mistake he said what you DO TO ONE SIDE OF THE BLADE you want to do to the other. at 0:45 he sharpens it three times one side , flips it over at 0:52 he only does 2 one the other side.

[eddieyorke]

oh shit, we must warn the elders immediately!

[qwkerkham]

haha

[rickyjangatang1]

wats a poorous side

[daisyshome]

honing oil not necessary!!!!!!!!!!! i would like to see how long a hard arkansas stone lasts with no oil its ok with that cheap walmart special aluminum oxide stone but come on

[thrower247]

who the hell are you?

[Krigsgeist]

Yes honing oil/water is definitely necessary depending on the type of stone. Without it the stone will glaze and fail to cut properly, or it could damage your edge because of the resulting uneven grit wear. I suspect he thinks its not necessary because knives aren't very hard on stones like other tools can be, but if you do enough of them you'll see the need for a lubricant to keep the stone clean and fast cutting.

[Dante010176]

correct.

[mauiboynokaoi]

Looks like if you keep that motion up you're going to get a pretty uneven knife. The angle of the blade to the stone on the 2nd side is different from the one on the first.