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  • Premise 1: According to Evolutionary theory, everything is getting bigger, faster, smarter, and stronger.

    Premise 2: Pine cones have decreased in size according to the fossil record over the last few decades.

    Conclusion: Evolution is false.

    This argument brought to you by Creationist Science (TM).

  • I lol'd

  • Holy fucking god that was brilliant good job

  • hey, @TruthfulChristian3 how did you find a fossilized million year old pine cone on our 6,000 year old earth... oh YOU DIDN'T.

  • i like the part when he says pine cones

  • Damn Pinecones ! How do they work ?

  • This is HILARIOUS!!! I've watched it three or four times and I still laugh every time...

  • Us Christians, we do have evidence, now I am not claiming that there is any evidence, now let me make this clear, I don't have any, I don't have any proof... Makes me :)

  • Humans used to be...pine cones! lol I keep watching that part over and over, even though I know it was edited together.

  • Great.

  • In a way.....Pine cones.

  • This is beautiful.

  • I can't help but feel kinda bad for Mathew. He's a good kid, he's just stubborn in his ignorance.

  • LMAO!!!! very funny!!

  • Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones, Pine cones.....What is your point?.....Pine cones!

  • THERE IS GOD!! THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER TOLD ME SO!!!

  • Banana man's new side-kick !

  • OMG i just realized truthful christian is an azn! WTF We're supposed to be SMART!!! All the azn christians i kno accept evolution.....lol aucutally 2 months after i got baptized i realized the stupidity of it all and unofficially became agnostic/athiest :D

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  • Bahahahaha...great job!

  • Banana-man should team up with Pine Cone-man.

  • Yep pine cone some how disprove evolution.

  • rofl "fossil record over the last several decades" DECADES!!!!

  • LOLZ, Simply LOLz, great job

  • Richard Dawkins has the wrong idea. Debating creationists creates loads of laughs.

  • @ 0:25 That was a great touch stressing the 'decades'. LOL

  • The new WDPLC Series theme song!

  • lol this is just as logical as the real debate

  • Pinecones! It all makes sense now. I get it because there are pincecones getting smaller without evidence must mean evolution is false. And because I proved something false that makes my claim that God Exists TRUE.

    Damn I think I hurt my brain typing that bit of sarcasm. Love the Edit!

  • "humans..use to be pinecones" I lol'ed

  • 200 Pencils.  Pine cones.

  • This just reminds me of Miss Teen South Carolina.

    pinecones

    pinecones

    pinecones

    pinecones

  • Bananas & pine cones; what's next for these creation a-holes.... cucumbers, carrots, & corncobs?

  • I like how "Ben Stein" tells this guy he is wrong at one point...

  • Could it be over the past few decades that we have chopped down the larger pine trees and what remains leaves smaller pine cones?

  • @Triplecenturies, I believe one of the league made that point, DonExodus I think, and then TC came back with "but that's not proof of evolution", as if it was intended to be. But TC couldn't provide any evidence that pine cone size was actually even decreasing. It's just something they assume as part of the idea that everything is decaying and getting worse since the fall. He also mentioned humans getting smaller. He didn't even try to back it up and admitted in the end that he has no evidence.

  • @theinquisitor Yes, I wet back and caught that at ~2:43 into the first part of the two part League of Reason video.

  • @Triplecenturies I don't know about pine cones but that very scenario has played out with deer and antler size and also with elephants and tusk size.

  • b-but... pinecones !!! therefore god exists !!! waaaaahhh !!!

  • They have evidence however they don't have evidence. Lolz all the way

  • it seems the depth of British persons voice correlates to his intellect...fascinating

  • Ow! I think that pinecone bit me!

  • in a way... pinecones

  • anyone who thinks this is biased is a retard, this is supposed to be humour not a highlight real of the show anyone with half a brain can see that. great vid btw :)

  • lol, gods

  • Fact- Pinecones are Pinecones- fact, the fact that Pinecones are indeed Pinecones is irrefutable although Pinecones evolved into Pinecones and will no doubt evolve into smaller humanlike Pincones is still a theory!

  • PIGHNCOINS

  • "In a waaaay, pine cones!" Nice edit, i didn't really think that discussion could get any more hilarious, you proved me wrong :)

  • Did anyone else have an epic WTF? moment when he said "if you look at the fossil record over the last couple of decades..."

  • You couldn't have found better background music. Its AWESOME!!! :D

  • I was watching this go down and the whole time I'm thinking "this is...going to be a remix"

  • PINECONES my god its all obvious now here i was thinking religion was false but pinecones this changes everything from now on i will devote my life to religion

  • PINECONES! Good times, can't wait for the next show if there is one.

  • Creationists tried to use pine cones, peanut butter and bananas to prove gods existence.

  • what is your point?

    eh... pinecones

  • LOL

    AronRa trying to stay calm

    TC babbling on about nonsense

    and Thunderf00t sounds like he's about to blow a fuse.

    So funny!

  • lol pinecones

  • Love the touch the music puts to the video.

  • Bloody pinocOWNed mate. The term TruthfulChristian is an oxymoron.

  • Dem Pinecones!

  • FUCKIN PINECONES, HOW DO THEY WORK?

    FUCKIN MAGIC UP IN THIS BITCH

  • Pwnconed...........

  • don't troll truthful christian, deluded but honest and still willing to think.

  • @SPACKlick

    He's not nearly as bad as some of the others, but calling TC2 "honest" is a bit of a stretch. He's apparently just as willing to move the goalposts while debating things such as abiogenesis and speed his way through topics so he doesn't need to address points he can't account for as any other creationist.

    He allows comments and doesn't block everyone who disagrees with him like some, but he will censor comments at times.

  • @SPACKlick Honest or not, he did say, Humans are getting smaller which is wrong as Humans have gotten between 1~2 feet taller in only a few thousand years, he said human lifespan is getting shorter what is wrong as Average human life span has over doubled in a couple of hundred years and near tripled from a few thousand years ago. Also he missed many explanations of the change in pine cone size that would and would not be adaption and failed to understand it makes no point at all, not truthful.

  • I love the fossil evidence from the last several decades.

  • @kellygiz "I love the fossil evidence from the last several decades." Apparently TC thinks anything found in or on top of the ground counts as a fossil, regardless of how old it is or if fossilization has taken place.

  • A+

    Well played friend, well played.

  • very good editing

  • Fuck pine cones!

  • @bah408 already did

  • Definitely favoriting this one. I actually got quite a few laughs out of this. In a way,... pine cones.

  • PINE CONES!!!!

  • lol nice, should have cameo'd the dramatic chipmunk after truthful said something crazy. "the earth is 6000 years old-BUH BUH BUHHH!"

  • fucking pinecones! how do they work!? silly christian *giggle*

  • I think this edited version actually makes more sense than one of truthful Christians actual videos.

  • "Citation needed"

    

  • haha.. brilliant.

  • My opinion is pinecones. I think the best bit was pinecones. I also thought the pinecones of the pinecones was totally pinecones. Great ending...pinecones.

  • AWWWWWW JEAAAHHHHH

  • Heheh, nice one.

  • this is completely fcking hilarious!! lol

  • You summed his argument up brilliantly

  • hahah PINECONES!!! the entire program fr LoR and we walk away with TC's "Pinecone"! So memorable hahah!

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  • Hahaha, fucking hilarious.

  • Fucking Pinecones! How do They Work?

  • This is sooo fucking funny!!!

  • Oh god, I almost cried :'D

  • @AndromedasWake spoiler, god won't help you to deal with /this/ christian

  • @AndromedasWake You really could not write this shit. If you would have told me two weeks ago a creationist was going to fight evolution with pine cones I would have told you fuck off. Nope, we sat and listened to ten minutes of pine cone theory. And I enjoyed every second.

  • Choking. Smiling. :)

  • @TruthfulChristian2

    Are you seriously in THAT much of denial? I'm starting to think you are either the most oblivious person I have ever had the entertainment of watching, or AronRa was in fact correct in his assessment.

  • @damaxman LOL ;D

  • @TruthfulChristian2 only because it was so much fun.

  • @TruthfulChristian2, yeah some of it was misleading. Like you didn't actually make the argument that humans used to be pine cones. I did listen to the whole thing a few times while making this you know. But you did say "us Christians have evidence" and then later admitted that you didn't have any evidence and just asserted the truth of the bible, which is why dpr ended the "debate". That's when you lost the right to be taken seriously. There is NO substance to your argument.

  • @theinquisitor

    Don't forget that he said that pine cones are getting smaller, and that proves there is no such thing as evolution.

    You could start to wonder how the pine cones are getting smaller though but whatever.

  • @founoe, I do love the irony of him saying that a gradual change disproves evolution, when evolution is essentially gradual change. These pinecones are evolving! That disproves evolution!

  • @theinquisitor

    "yeah some of it.....That's when you lost the right to be taken seriously. There is NO substance to your argument."

    Your response right there (in its entirety) is the end of TruthfulChristian's YouTube career. A complete summation of why TC's position is ill-conceived & deserving of mockery.

  • @TruthfulChristian2 Dude this one ranks right up there with your chicken-and-egg argument, which was a hilarious facepalm. (We do know the answer and no it's not the one you gave. You had 50-50 chance though.) I did hear the original debate and you did say, "The fossil record has shown that over the past 20 to 30 years..."

  • @TruthfulChristian2 The debate wasn't the point of the video, it was how ridiculous you sounded. I mean everything you said was completely debunked. You've shown to have a lack of fundemental knowledge on evolution, and you dared say that you have evidence and proof, when you don't. You were completely dishonest and disingenuous the entire time. You were bested, your religion is a sham, or at least the bible is, instead of fighting it, learn something.

  • @TruthfulChristian2 Mate, you're a joke, so why should videos about you be any more than a joke? CASEwithscience might be kind enough to give you responses, but clowns are for comedic value, no substance required.

  • @TruthfulChristian2 i heard the real conversation and the closest thing to substance i got was that you got your understanding of how evolution works from creation websites on the internetz. you seemed proud of your ignorance of how evolution works.

  • @TruthfulChristian2

    "You took the debate out of context obviously"

    And he obviously states that in the title.. (Funny edit of.....)

    It's not like he did it to try to fool anyone.. He did it for the lulz..

    And for a fail video, he sure did get a lot more thumbs ups than thumbs downs..

    FAIL COMMENT..

  • @TruthfulChristian2 Pine cones.

  • @TruthfulChristian2

    Congratulations ... Ray Comfort is bananaman ... and you will now forever be known as the pinecone kid.

  • @TruthfulChristian2 what was the substance in this moronic rant??

  • @TruthfulChristian2 Actually he has gotten to the substance: you don't know what you're talking about and yet you act like an authority on evolution. He doesn't even have to try to be funny because it already is. "I'm a 20 something year old who has debunked a 151 year old theory supported by thousands of scientists who are actually authorities on the matter by making a random observation about pinecones during a Hotpocket snack break without even bothering to look into or test it." Ta-dah!

  • @TruthfulChristian2 Man your argument was going nowhere really fucking fast.

  • @TruthfulChristian2 It's not a fail video, it's a video mocking your stupidity. The blogtv show is on youtube for all to see. Everyone can see what a fool you are, and how badly you got owned on a subject that you clearly know nothing about.

    We haven Banana man, PCS, and now we have Pinecone Boy. Keep making vids Pinecone boy, they are entertaining.

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  • Since pinecones are growing smaller and smaller in size, is this a countdown to judgement day or something? Maybe, based on this, can Christians with accuracy this time, decide when the world ends?

  • I'm still lolling about his "the fossil record over the last several decades" - that's so stupid, you can't even make it up... :D

  • Don't forget that humans are getting smaller as well...

    freaking tard

  • @eddygoombah I mean, duh. There's no evidence for it, but the bible says its true, so it must be. CHECKMATE!!!

  • @eddygoombah nope, we are actually getting taller due to beter sources of nutrition in our diet....next time do your research buddy

  • @MikaelDryden Umm... Sarcasm!

  • @eddygoombah sorry....but you really cant see sarcasm on text now can you.....or can you...can you.....hmmmm

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