people need to realize the guy in this video never said this technique was full-proof. The fact that so many people have responded with "this wouldn't work in a real fight" clearly reveals their ignorance of martial arts. No training technique is used in a real fight in the same way you practice it. In every fight every technique learned is adapted and restructured in response to the opponent.
"But what about the foot work?"
You don't kick while your learning to punch morons.
@ichiboku1 emh...footwork is not about kicking..is about evrythings regard fighting inclouding punchs!...have you ever been to a serious martial art school?
Depois do Filme "O Grande Mestre 1 e 2,"o estilo Wing Chun vem sse desenvilvendo com novos alunos...isso é bom,em parte.Por que?Melhor seria se matricular em uma escola de Kung Fu Wing Chun não por emoção de ter assistido a um filme,mas por amor a arte e sua filosofia.Assim o aluno{a"}praticaria a arte com coração,corpo ,alma e espirito.Sou Praticante de Jeet Kune Do mas Amo Wing Chun FORTE ABRAÇO A TODOS PRÁTICANTES DE WING CHUN KUNG FU CHINÊS E PARA A EQUIPE GOOGLE.
damn this video is bad, it teaches you to make a strike with an open hand, thats TG material, not for beginners, not only will you wreck your opponent in a way you cant defend in court but you will probably damage your arm in the process...
This is chain punching. Augustine Fong teaches this method. You immobilize and punch. Each time you punch you have to maintain control of the opponent by trapping with the punch, thereby not allowing him to react. Continuous punching is called chum choi or battle punching. It can be stopped easier then chain punching. Some of you all need to research more in the art of Wing Chun.
This is chain punching. Augustine Fong teaches this method. You immobilize and punch. Each time you punch you have to maintain control of the opponent by trapping with the punch, thereby not allowing him to react. Continuous punching is called chum choi or battle punching. It can be stopped easier then chain punching.
Dude, you're so dumb. That is NOT a chain punch. I'm 12 and I am a student of wing chun. Chain punch or jik chung means hand over hand punching. Don't teach something you don't know.
@TheRustingSword yep u could theoretically have him do whatever. if he did punch with another hand there's a trainin drill for that too. however timing can differ in a fight and u will not wait for his second or third punch. if u're faster u'll just punch, push, or other way control his body so he will not have a good balance to even throw a powerful punch. what is lacking here is the movement forward to really put some power behind each punch
why cant you just block his arm ones and keep punching wit one hand cause if you do that instead you got more time to punch your enemy this style of fighting looks good like in movies im not saying it isnt effective im just saying it could of bin more efectfull if the movements wherent just for show
@brndoil yes u could do just that :) this is a training drill to teach u different moves and how the moves can flow from one to another seamlessly. in a fight of course u will not need to use this many techniques in a row. as it happens u could skip the first move pak sau and go straight for the second kan sau. or hold his other hand while punchin with ur other hand several times. so u do not need to switch hand each time u punch. timing is quite different in reality
fredocorleone47: you were so right about your comments. Exactly what Bruce Lee did some 30 over years ago combining wing-chun, karate, tae-kwon-do and many others to call it Jeet kune-Do. Machida has this concept too. This is the sort of comments I respected. Those who criticized may not have mirrors in their homes!
I just can't understand how you can bash martial arts. Almost every art has problems and benefits, and no great UFC fighter knows just one art form. Those who only know Muay Thai or BJJ never amount to shit. The fighters who know combinations of: boxing, Karate, Kung Fu, Muay Thai, BJJ, Jiujitsu and other forms are almost always the most liable fighters.
Martial arts evolves form person to person. While one person may not be able to use it in combat, another may be able. The movements also varies from person to person because not everyone is able to move the same. People are also differnt shapes and sizes and situations are as unpredictable as the future.
It's sad how there's hardly any humility amongst wing chunners. I see a lot trying to flex their knowledge while putting others down. So sad, but in this clip I dont understand why he wouldnt go into a wu sao instead of a bong sao. Wu sao or jeet gerk if Im saying that right.
This guy "For an alleged SIFU" techniques are sub par, if you have a problem with that, then not only do you not know Wing "Chun, tsun, tzun,tsjun etc) you do not understand kung fu at all...
you dont wing tsun is just a multinational wing chun school by grandmaster leung ting who was tought by the late great grandmaster ip man in the style of wing chun so wing chun and wing tsun same thing... dip shit
Yo Teror! You are so funny, I bet you think you know more about Wing Tsun then me...Nice try, once you get 20 years and 4 full lineages under your belt, directly from 2 Grandmasters then you can call someone a Dip Shit, this guy and you know NOTHING about Wing Tsun and he is an embarrassment to ALL of Commercial Wing Tsun...PERIOD!
FUNNIEST THING... so this kid rite im pretty sure he got jipped or sumtin, but he was practicing his karate out in the school field in the open wen he was waiting for his mom to pik him up after school, and this white guy ran at him, knocked him down and jus beat the bejesus outta him... tru story i saw it with my own eyes and laffed.
Wing Chun guys do fight and quite a lot, its contact all the time, thats what the training is based on. Why then if it is so not ass kicking most of worlds special ops train in WT?
I'm a kung fu man myself and the truth is there are a lot of fakes out there. People who think that form training is all it takes to be good at kung fu. The truth is conditioning, physical training and other basic fighting requirements are needed in any fighting style. You can't rely on form training alone (unless you practice wushu which is not really the fighting form of kung fu) you need to train physically to be tough as well as train in skill. You need both to be an efficient fighter.
I love how MMA guys love to bash on traditional martial arts and yet the best fighter in the UFC right now was trained in Shotokan Karate. I am of course talking about Machida. He proves that any art can work you just have to modify it to use it in the ring. Any style can work it depends on the person using it.
@IL0NGHORNS When I put up that post Machida was still considered to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Yeah he lost to Shogun but I think he will make a comeback.
@fredocorleone47 true that. im a mma practitioner and i can tell you, all the styles that ppl use in mma...are both traditional and evolved. actually, the bashers that youre talking about...are not real mma guys, theyre just noobs to the sport who have only seen brock lesnar and cool highlights on youtube. but what we really have to understand is that every martial art has its pros and cons; the best thing to do wud be to take the best of each discipline, learn them, perfect them, then apply em
@guardali1 That is and always should be the ideal for training in mixed martial arts. As Bruce Lee said absorb what is useful and discard what is useless. Every art has things that will work in a fight and things that won't. And to divide that even further some of the moves that seem really unpractical can sometimes be used very well by fighters who know what they are doing. For example a lot of people say the flying arm bar is not practical but look at Rumina Sato and his 6 second win.
I agree. I remember, when I was 15 or something a Wing Tsun guy came to our dojo saying that he had this unstoppable move called "chain punch". He challenged my Sensei (45 years old at the time, I think, a lifetime spent developing his skills) saying that there was no way to stop that amazing technique he got, and to get ready to be heavily punched. A good old mae geri kekomi was enough to make him fly away like a ball with his chain. Fuck "unstoppable" tecniques.
@PBstr8killa I'm a big fan of Anderson Silva actually. And the only way to tell who is a more skillful fighter is if they fight each other and I don't think that is going to happen.
@fredocorleone47 traditional martial arts are effective in war close-quarter combat, you bring mma to the warzone youll get more dead bodies! I train in jkd and shotokan karate...i know the haters...peace!
@paladindarknite Thats for sure. You go to the grown with a guy in a real life combat situation chances are you are probably gonna get your ass beat if not killed by his friends.
@fredocorleone47 Yeah you can't grow if you don't open up to the differnt styles and we all heard the styles debate it's way over rated. The only thing i take from all of that is this bjj is a good art but it's not enough in the streets. Many of the traditional arts were design for real life street fighting and its to dangerous to use in the ring period. No offense to bjj junkies bjj a great art very effective but you need more than grappling as mma fighters now show they mix everything.
@lococavasa True that brother. I've been training with a buddy of mine whos into BJJ and I got nothing but good things to say about it and he has nothing but good thing to say about Wing Chun and other traditional styles. However that does not mean we don't constructively criticize the inherent weaknesses of BOTH styles. Wing Chung is great but in the ring or octagon it is very limited. BJJ is great but on the street with hard concreted and weapons it is also very limited.
@fredocorleone47 Your a true martial artist in the sense that you understand that to be the best you can be you have to train what works best. That was & is my point. By limiting oneself to a style they limit there own mobility. What's a stricker going to do on the ground if he got no training equaly what a grappler going to do if he up against more than one person. The explosion of bjj is over martial artist have effective fought against the art and won In mma its the ring none the less a fight
@lococavasa I appreciate the compliment but I'm not sure I deserve it. What is a TRUE martial artist anyway? We're all just people trying to learn and like learning anything else in life one should be open minded. Should a scientist say oh I don't like Physics but I love Geology so Geology is all I'll study. No he needs both to be well rounded. Same goes for anything else. Absorb what is useful and discard what is useless as Bruce Lee said. Limiting ourselves is pointless and foolish.
Another thing to anyone who cant grasp that concept ill train bjj to counter it add in my own mix and beat you with it and yes mma does limit technique severly. In the streets things are not the same.
@lococavasa Agreed man. One time me and my BJJ buddy decided to roll on concrete with no mats to see the difference. In the end we both ended up all bruised up and unable to move without pain for a week! Now that was just practice! Imagine if we had employed ground techniques in a bar fight or in a dark alley with broken bottles and dirty needles from drug addicts! Or worse yet what if me and my buddy were trying to fight our way through a crowd? The second we go to the ground we would be dead.
@fredocorleone47 its aaallllll about application. Traditional training can be BEAST if used properly.
But my question, unrelated, is about applying this technique in a real fight. Both fighters here appear to be southpaw, and in traditional wing tsun stance. Say this was a street fight and your opponent was hunched over, sloppy amateur boxer style? The trapping confuses me in that situation.
@Kenlac92 It would be more difficult I'd imagine to not just throw your training away and use brute force in that situation. Trapping might be more difficult to use in that situation.
@fredocorleone47 Dude it is kinda true because the mma guys that fight trad arts take them down which i admit is a pussy move because most of them are standup, i admit i used this shit too, and it kinda worked but wing chun is good for standup as for all trad martial arts.
@fredocorleone47 You are completely right. I am a 175 cm 180 lbs guy, so I don't see a big opportunity for me to do spinning kicks of taek won do, or the swift maneuvers of wing chun, I concentrate on self defense, not ring fighting, so my best bet is traditional jiu jitsu or krav maga. Any art can work in the ring
You guys talk like you know all about marcial arts.
MMA its a sport, its a controled fight with rules that maintain the safety of the fighters.
Its a great marcial art, like kung fu or another MA.
If you think MMA fighters are not so good go get informed and check some videos. Check for bas rutten (for example) videos here on youtube and tell me if you would fuck with them.....
It's not about who is not skilled here or who's skilled.we're talking about practicality outside the ring.Guys like you love to compare and disrespect a martial arts practitioner by commenting that, that wouldn't work in the cage.If you think i don't know what i'm talking about, think twice.
as i said if you think i dont know what im talking about think twice... please id love to hear about your accomplishments this is not meant in any bad way, we all just wanna hear whats been accomplished by you and behind those words
It works, but only in clinch situations. I used to practice jeet kune do, we practiced wing chung sticky hands. Than I went into boxing, I used it in clinches to get punches and turn fighters. I don't know if you know what turning a fighter is, look it up? I also been doing Brazilian Jujitsu, it works for the initial take down before the rolling starts.
If you think MMA is a real fight you're in a dream world. MMA is unbalanced towards grappling. In MMA there are no multiple attackers, nobody gouges eyes, nobody pulls knives. If you can't see the point of Wing Chun you belong in MMA with the rest of the people who like to roll around with sweaty dudes.
The only thing i dislike about MMA is their lack of technique.That's why they're are not interesting to watch.you'll see 2 guys brawling.That's why no one can beat the spider and GSP b/c they have a solid fundamental techniques.
Do you think that'd you'd be able to do most of the techniques when there's the threat of someone just tackling you? A. Silva is a BJJ Blackbelt and has a Muay Thai background. Lyoto Machida does Shotokan. GSP? WRESTLING. You don't think they classify as techniques the way they submit their opponents? You really have to understand their art in order to critisize. MMA is not all brute. Brock Lesnar can't win crap. Even The Axe Murderer doesn't win half his fights.
And what point are you trying to make my man?Those are the technical fighters.that's why it's hard for the others to beat them because they learned their perspective art to the fullest.Unlike most of the fighters who just brawl and never use their heads.I know and understand their art that's why i believe in those fighters who really stick to their art and they're the one's who are hard to beat
Yeah, with all the pro boxers, k-1 level kickboxers, olympian and NCAA champion wrestlers, olympian judokas, BJJ world champions, ADCC world champions, Sambo champions, and world class karatekas, there really isn't much skill in professional MMA. Wing Chun guys who never actually fight would definitely kick their ass. - Thanks for your ingenious insight KrisParagas
lol kinda true, but the end of ur text was crap. :( If u think MMA is gay or something, "..people who like to roll around with sweaty dudes." then u are a bit stupid :( .
Hardly-- I'm a person who's watched MA classes, and grappling classes, and wrestling classes, for 20 years now and there's something very, very peculiar about it. Methinks you protest too much...
Ingve, usually the reason for that is because a lot of martial arts don't allow punches to the head. Kyokushin Karate rules specifically forbid a lot of the things that make WC an effective art.
@WhiteBeltPerspective Yo I realize you posted this a long time ago but I also see no one answered your question. JuJitsu was derived from old Chinese grappling arts from Chinese masters that were exiled to Japan. The basis of JuJitsu is found in the Chinese art of Chin Na which has a great deal of grappling techniques in it including moves like the guillotine and other moves most people think comes only out of BJJ. Truth is nearly all Japanese fighting arts can at some point be traced to China.
I train wing chun.. it is not effective in the ring if u train wc only.. you have protection on hands in a ring, therefore the punches have to be harder and stronger than in real life. Wing chun punches are fastest but not that hard..
If you are not getting power behind them... you are training your punches wrong and or poorly. Ive KOd several with mine, and that was when I was 145lbs. (and using mma gloves)
Still his first point stands: WT/WC is not effective in the ring - it's another paradigm, and not many people seem to understand this. MMA isn't even close to a real fight.
My friend, while what you say is not without reason, but you lack information. Another aspect of Wing Chun, which few know about or practice effectively, is power generation, which allows punches to hit VERY hard, even while the hands and arms remain very relaxed. It comes from utilising your core muscles, effectively, your whole body, not just your arms, when you punch.
Oh geez what an odd argument. First off Bruce Lee DID study Wing Chun Under William Chuang who was the Dia Sihing under Yip Man. I don't believe Bruce Lee was ever a disciple under Yip. Bruce Lee never completed Wing Chun, he didnt fully uderstand it all and never studied the third form nor its weapons. Bruce Lee filled in the gaps that he did not understand concerning wing chun. Wing Chun has no "fixed positions" but is very free to the true artist. Bruce Lee was not the best but most famous.
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No! Bruce lee never learned or used WING CHUN, he first used Taichi when come to Ocident, awais using low kicks and fast punchs. Later he studied a lot of chinese kung fu traditional style and applyed them over ocidental and japanese styles to prove that his fighting method with no instance and no specific rules are superior of them all, he trained with a lot type of fighters then created JeetKuneDo, using now high kiks, and powerfull punches, so the art of intercepting hands was founded by him.
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dude come on you cant controll the oter hand of your oponent with that weak wave style defence, be serious, one more thing what about the kicks to the groin, oooooo i forgot you have your chastity belt on,
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I still say, this is a copy of Jeet Kune Do, art of intercepting hands, Wing Tsun is not a style, it is trademarked of an association, this type is not a pure fighting , just a path to react in various types of atacks an variety of pression, this is based on a concept, and yes it is after Bruce Lee, and the fighting with no form is a trademark of Jeet Kune Do. You can take this information on library museum of chinese art. So long Wing Tsun dont have already a form. It is a path, like jeetkunedo
Come oN!!! Jeet kune do is created by bruce lee who originally learned WING CHUN frm Yip Man!!!. Most of the techinques in JKD came from wing chun so do you even know what are you talking about??
Nice, but someone needs to practice that move literally 1000 times, before it can actually be useful to him.
Summerjam333 2 months ago
he dresses like kung lao from mk
itsRman 6 months ago
Don't fvck with this guy!
SnoopDamage 7 months ago
people need to realize the guy in this video never said this technique was full-proof. The fact that so many people have responded with "this wouldn't work in a real fight" clearly reveals their ignorance of martial arts. No training technique is used in a real fight in the same way you practice it. In every fight every technique learned is adapted and restructured in response to the opponent.
"But what about the foot work?"
You don't kick while your learning to punch morons.
ichiboku1 8 months ago 4
@ichiboku1 emh...footwork is not about kicking..is about evrythings regard fighting inclouding punchs!...have you ever been to a serious martial art school?
abacgnu1 1 month ago
@abacgnu1 yes. Have you been to a serious elementary school that taught you the basics of grammar?
ichiboku1 1 month ago
@ichiboku1 I'm italian!and you don't know anything about fighting
abacgnu1 1 month ago
@abacgnu1 ?
ichiboku1 1 week ago
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ichiboku1 8 months ago
Depois do Filme "O Grande Mestre 1 e 2,"o estilo Wing Chun vem sse desenvilvendo com novos alunos...isso é bom,em parte.Por que?Melhor seria se matricular em uma escola de Kung Fu Wing Chun não por emoção de ter assistido a um filme,mas por amor a arte e sua filosofia.Assim o aluno{a"}praticaria a arte com coração,corpo ,alma e espirito.Sou Praticante de Jeet Kune Do mas Amo Wing Chun FORTE ABRAÇO A TODOS PRÁTICANTES DE WING CHUN KUNG FU CHINÊS E PARA A EQUIPE GOOGLE.
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marcusadriano1959 9 months ago
When Did Kianu Reeves Start Teaching Wing Chun Kung Fu? :)
HyPeRCoN92 10 months ago
damn this video is bad, it teaches you to make a strike with an open hand, thats TG material, not for beginners, not only will you wreck your opponent in a way you cant defend in court but you will probably damage your arm in the process...
ZNieLZ 10 months ago
The problem is not your kung fu, it's you.
That thought in your mind works wonders.
MephMetal 10 months ago
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deadindisguise 10 months ago
Machida is overatted as you can tell by the 2 fights he has dropped.
DJ5231 1 year ago
he makes wing chun boring
300695kzk 1 year ago
This is chain punching. Augustine Fong teaches this method. You immobilize and punch. Each time you punch you have to maintain control of the opponent by trapping with the punch, thereby not allowing him to react. Continuous punching is called chum choi or battle punching. It can be stopped easier then chain punching. Some of you all need to research more in the art of Wing Chun.
wingchun2k10 1 year ago
This is chain punching. Augustine Fong teaches this method. You immobilize and punch. Each time you punch you have to maintain control of the opponent by trapping with the punch, thereby not allowing him to react. Continuous punching is called chum choi or battle punching. It can be stopped easier then chain punching.
wingchun2k10 1 year ago
Dude, you're so dumb. That is NOT a chain punch. I'm 12 and I am a student of wing chun. Chain punch or jik chung means hand over hand punching. Don't teach something you don't know.
Daniel54939 1 year ago
Thats not a chain punch wtf?
colby7538 1 year ago
wow i wonder if there's a wing chun dojo or something near where i live xD
lilaznboy90 1 year ago
The left-hand-side-guy could have punched him with left hand...
TheRustingSword 1 year ago
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i'll be amazed if he can after being chain punched
brench12 1 year ago
@TheRustingSword yep u could theoretically have him do whatever. if he did punch with another hand there's a trainin drill for that too. however timing can differ in a fight and u will not wait for his second or third punch. if u're faster u'll just punch, push, or other way control his body so he will not have a good balance to even throw a powerful punch. what is lacking here is the movement forward to really put some power behind each punch
DonMega187 1 year ago
why cant you just block his arm ones and keep punching wit one hand cause if you do that instead you got more time to punch your enemy this style of fighting looks good like in movies im not saying it isnt effective im just saying it could of bin more efectfull if the movements wherent just for show
brndoil 1 year ago
@brndoil yes u could do just that :) this is a training drill to teach u different moves and how the moves can flow from one to another seamlessly. in a fight of course u will not need to use this many techniques in a row. as it happens u could skip the first move pak sau and go straight for the second kan sau. or hold his other hand while punchin with ur other hand several times. so u do not need to switch hand each time u punch. timing is quite different in reality
DonMega187 1 year ago
fredocorleone47: you were so right about your comments. Exactly what Bruce Lee did some 30 over years ago combining wing-chun, karate, tae-kwon-do and many others to call it Jeet kune-Do. Machida has this concept too. This is the sort of comments I respected. Those who criticized may not have mirrors in their homes!
zipdrive011 1 year ago
I just can't understand how you can bash martial arts. Almost every art has problems and benefits, and no great UFC fighter knows just one art form. Those who only know Muay Thai or BJJ never amount to shit. The fighters who know combinations of: boxing, Karate, Kung Fu, Muay Thai, BJJ, Jiujitsu and other forms are almost always the most liable fighters.
Minatour94 1 year ago
ugh im sick of the terrible pronounciation
Raso8k 1 year ago
wall of words..
ultrachao 1 year ago
this dudes haircut is amazing..............
chumkui999 1 year ago
You hate yanks? Don't hate, appreciate.
skeetskeet182 1 year ago
as i said before you are really good can you sent me you r email
siguenza69 1 year ago
as i said before you are really good can you sent me you r email
siguenza69 1 year ago
Martial arts evolves form person to person. While one person may not be able to use it in combat, another may be able. The movements also varies from person to person because not everyone is able to move the same. People are also differnt shapes and sizes and situations are as unpredictable as the future.
DragonLee18 1 year ago
that worthless shit on the vid is useless in a street fight.....crap....expertvillage sucks...
toolboox 2 years ago
@toolboox lol not as useless as u would be though
FoGGeRdk 1 year ago
horrible!
emersonrwt 2 years ago
LAP SAU that, LOP SAU this... hit or get hit ! sh*i is simple like that!
Benzono1980 2 years ago
xD potato poteto haha
JumperFrank 1 year ago
its fucking LAP SAU NOT LOP SAU.
GemGem671 2 years ago
fucking americans that is not a chain punch i hate yanks they make everything look bad.
GemGem671 2 years ago
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THIS STILE IS FOR GIRLS
volkanbleichrodt 2 years ago
no it was created by a girl. this style is the best for all.
magicbrowny420 1 year ago
using this you can win a punch in the face
this is ridiculous...
vinikazama 2 years ago
Well if you don't have any clue don't talk.
This move will be done in less then 0,5 seconds, it's not really possible to react as a Not-Wing-Tsun'er!
RyuHayabusa710 2 years ago 2
It's sad how there's hardly any humility amongst wing chunners. I see a lot trying to flex their knowledge while putting others down. So sad, but in this clip I dont understand why he wouldnt go into a wu sao instead of a bong sao. Wu sao or jeet gerk if Im saying that right.
todei79 2 years ago
I practice wing chun and these americans are clearly only learning a set of movements not the philosophy behind it. those costumes...ugh
MrWordSpread 2 years ago 10
This aint WT chain punches....you can call it chain but is just sloppy job of this "sifu"
Estoda 2 years ago 2
yeah? what are your credentials?
SolidSnakeRules 2 years ago
looks like a lot of crossing your own center line.. yes / no?
lowcal11 2 years ago
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it doesnt work in a real fight
Naz229 2 years ago
Your a nugget.
kzundiverus 2 years ago
This guy "For an alleged SIFU" techniques are sub par, if you have a problem with that, then not only do you not know Wing "Chun, tsun, tzun,tsjun etc) you do not understand kung fu at all...
MAcritique 2 years ago 2
its an expertvillage video what can you expect =X
snowblazer12 2 years ago 24
you dont wing tsun is just a multinational wing chun school by grandmaster leung ting who was tought by the late great grandmaster ip man in the style of wing chun so wing chun and wing tsun same thing... dip shit
TerorB10 2 years ago
Yo Teror! You are so funny, I bet you think you know more about Wing Tsun then me...Nice try, once you get 20 years and 4 full lineages under your belt, directly from 2 Grandmasters then you can call someone a Dip Shit, this guy and you know NOTHING about Wing Tsun and he is an embarrassment to ALL of Commercial Wing Tsun...PERIOD!
MAcritique 2 years ago
same pronunciation and spelling in chinese languages
TerorB10 2 years ago
Yeah, they others are all trademarked or copywritten...
MAcritique 2 years ago
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hiabc9632 2 years ago
hmm this is much diff from wing chun.. same names same concept diff though...
Gantz035 2 years ago
FUNNIEST THING... so this kid rite im pretty sure he got jipped or sumtin, but he was practicing his karate out in the school field in the open wen he was waiting for his mom to pik him up after school, and this white guy ran at him, knocked him down and jus beat the bejesus outta him... tru story i saw it with my own eyes and laffed.
numuzix 2 years ago
LMFAO FAIL ASS
plzforgiveme987 2 years ago
shut up.
godofsweetlovin 2 years ago
Nice Video!!!!! OMG !!! thankyou!!!
losbajitos 2 years ago
Wing Chun guys do fight and quite a lot, its contact all the time, thats what the training is based on. Why then if it is so not ass kicking most of worlds special ops train in WT?
speedcoras 2 years ago
wut branch of martial arts is this?
masterdark354 2 years ago
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i am a grandmaster kung poo man. i dont need this technique. i only just dodge enemy's attacks until they are tired of punching the air and go home.
xHizukax 2 years ago
I'm a kung fu man myself and the truth is there are a lot of fakes out there. People who think that form training is all it takes to be good at kung fu. The truth is conditioning, physical training and other basic fighting requirements are needed in any fighting style. You can't rely on form training alone (unless you practice wushu which is not really the fighting form of kung fu) you need to train physically to be tough as well as train in skill. You need both to be an efficient fighter.
fredocorleone47 2 years ago 3
Nicely put bro
KrisParagas 2 years ago
I love how MMA guys love to bash on traditional martial arts and yet the best fighter in the UFC right now was trained in Shotokan Karate. I am of course talking about Machida. He proves that any art can work you just have to modify it to use it in the ring. Any style can work it depends on the person using it.
fredocorleone47 2 years ago 50
Actually most of Machida's kicks are Muay Thai based, it's mainly his stance and feetwork and timing he takes from Karate.
Dungarth 2 years ago
@fredocorleone47 traditional styles has benefits but has limitations as well.......
bjpenntheking 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 so true
bdjordan15 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 machida is not the best fight in ufc are you serious both anderson silvia and george st. pierre are better
IL0NGHORNS 1 year ago
@IL0NGHORNS When I put up that post Machida was still considered to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Yeah he lost to Shogun but I think he will make a comeback.
fredocorleone47 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 yes, he practices barely recognizable evolved karate with punches from western boxing
SolidSnakeRules 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 true that. im a mma practitioner and i can tell you, all the styles that ppl use in mma...are both traditional and evolved. actually, the bashers that youre talking about...are not real mma guys, theyre just noobs to the sport who have only seen brock lesnar and cool highlights on youtube. but what we really have to understand is that every martial art has its pros and cons; the best thing to do wud be to take the best of each discipline, learn them, perfect them, then apply em
guardali1 1 year ago
@guardali1 That is and always should be the ideal for training in mixed martial arts. As Bruce Lee said absorb what is useful and discard what is useless. Every art has things that will work in a fight and things that won't. And to divide that even further some of the moves that seem really unpractical can sometimes be used very well by fighters who know what they are doing. For example a lot of people say the flying arm bar is not practical but look at Rumina Sato and his 6 second win.
fredocorleone47 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 I'd agree with everything you said, beside the Machida thing.
His training partner is the greatest fighter that has ever been in the UFC.
Anderson The Spider Silva. =)
DeadFoxMS89 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47
I agree. I remember, when I was 15 or something a Wing Tsun guy came to our dojo saying that he had this unstoppable move called "chain punch". He challenged my Sensei (45 years old at the time, I think, a lifetime spent developing his skills) saying that there was no way to stop that amazing technique he got, and to get ready to be heavily punched. A good old mae geri kekomi was enough to make him fly away like a ball with his chain. Fuck "unstoppable" tecniques.
FuckinSeriousBusines 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 Whats your opinion on anderson silva? Do you believe Machida is a more skillful fighter than Silva?
PBstr8killa 1 year ago
@PBstr8killa I'm a big fan of Anderson Silva actually. And the only way to tell who is a more skillful fighter is if they fight each other and I don't think that is going to happen.
fredocorleone47 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 traditional martial arts are effective in war close-quarter combat, you bring mma to the warzone youll get more dead bodies! I train in jkd and shotokan karate...i know the haters...peace!
paladindarknite 1 year ago
@paladindarknite Thats for sure. You go to the grown with a guy in a real life combat situation chances are you are probably gonna get your ass beat if not killed by his friends.
fredocorleone47 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 Yeah you can't grow if you don't open up to the differnt styles and we all heard the styles debate it's way over rated. The only thing i take from all of that is this bjj is a good art but it's not enough in the streets. Many of the traditional arts were design for real life street fighting and its to dangerous to use in the ring period. No offense to bjj junkies bjj a great art very effective but you need more than grappling as mma fighters now show they mix everything.
lococavasa 11 months ago
@lococavasa True that brother. I've been training with a buddy of mine whos into BJJ and I got nothing but good things to say about it and he has nothing but good thing to say about Wing Chun and other traditional styles. However that does not mean we don't constructively criticize the inherent weaknesses of BOTH styles. Wing Chung is great but in the ring or octagon it is very limited. BJJ is great but on the street with hard concreted and weapons it is also very limited.
fredocorleone47 11 months ago
@fredocorleone47 Your a true martial artist in the sense that you understand that to be the best you can be you have to train what works best. That was & is my point. By limiting oneself to a style they limit there own mobility. What's a stricker going to do on the ground if he got no training equaly what a grappler going to do if he up against more than one person. The explosion of bjj is over martial artist have effective fought against the art and won In mma its the ring none the less a fight
lococavasa 11 months ago
@lococavasa I appreciate the compliment but I'm not sure I deserve it. What is a TRUE martial artist anyway? We're all just people trying to learn and like learning anything else in life one should be open minded. Should a scientist say oh I don't like Physics but I love Geology so Geology is all I'll study. No he needs both to be well rounded. Same goes for anything else. Absorb what is useful and discard what is useless as Bruce Lee said. Limiting ourselves is pointless and foolish.
fredocorleone47 11 months ago
Another thing to anyone who cant grasp that concept ill train bjj to counter it add in my own mix and beat you with it and yes mma does limit technique severly. In the streets things are not the same.
lococavasa 11 months ago
@lococavasa Agreed man. One time me and my BJJ buddy decided to roll on concrete with no mats to see the difference. In the end we both ended up all bruised up and unable to move without pain for a week! Now that was just practice! Imagine if we had employed ground techniques in a bar fight or in a dark alley with broken bottles and dirty needles from drug addicts! Or worse yet what if me and my buddy were trying to fight our way through a crowd? The second we go to the ground we would be dead.
fredocorleone47 11 months ago
@fredocorleone47 its aaallllll about application. Traditional training can be BEAST if used properly.
But my question, unrelated, is about applying this technique in a real fight. Both fighters here appear to be southpaw, and in traditional wing tsun stance. Say this was a street fight and your opponent was hunched over, sloppy amateur boxer style? The trapping confuses me in that situation.
Kenlac92 10 months ago
@Kenlac92 It would be more difficult I'd imagine to not just throw your training away and use brute force in that situation. Trapping might be more difficult to use in that situation.
fredocorleone47 10 months ago
@fredocorleone47 Dude it is kinda true because the mma guys that fight trad arts take them down which i admit is a pussy move because most of them are standup, i admit i used this shit too, and it kinda worked but wing chun is good for standup as for all trad martial arts.
TWENEER5 9 months ago
@fredocorleone47 You are completely right. I am a 175 cm 180 lbs guy, so I don't see a big opportunity for me to do spinning kicks of taek won do, or the swift maneuvers of wing chun, I concentrate on self defense, not ring fighting, so my best bet is traditional jiu jitsu or krav maga. Any art can work in the ring
AdamsTeinz 7 months ago
You guys talk like you know all about marcial arts.
MMA its a sport, its a controled fight with rules that maintain the safety of the fighters.
Its a great marcial art, like kung fu or another MA.
If you think MMA fighters are not so good go get informed and check some videos. Check for bas rutten (for example) videos here on youtube and tell me if you would fuck with them.....
Ju6069Sexy 2 years ago 2
It's not about who is not skilled here or who's skilled.we're talking about practicality outside the ring.Guys like you love to compare and disrespect a martial arts practitioner by commenting that, that wouldn't work in the cage.If you think i don't know what i'm talking about, think twice.
karloparagas6 2 years ago
No you don't know what your talking about.
MMA=Mixed Marcial Arts. A mix of the best moves in marcial arts. I post that comment for the ones who's saying MMA isn't a good marcial art.
They don't make fancy moves they do straight moves.
And if you say that out of the ring, in the streets its not practical, yeah you right, its better a tazer gun or a pistol.
And for the record I lov good marcial arts and I am not trying to disrespect them.
Ju6069Sexy 2 years ago
as i said if you think i dont know what im talking about think twice... please id love to hear about your accomplishments this is not meant in any bad way, we all just wanna hear whats been accomplished by you and behind those words
karloparagas6 2 years ago
this guy is 100% clueless.
synkronyk 2 years ago 5
china boxer is the best on u tube
Khenz1001 2 years ago
expertvillage blows ..
Poesias360 2 years ago
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there is a reason why these fags arent in mma
this crap does not work in a real fight
sexanoe 2 years ago
it works for me...oh and mma isn't real fighting...real fighting there is no rules, no ref's and no tap out...and it aint fair...
tlcem075 2 years ago
It works, but only in clinch situations. I used to practice jeet kune do, we practiced wing chung sticky hands. Than I went into boxing, I used it in clinches to get punches and turn fighters. I don't know if you know what turning a fighter is, look it up? I also been doing Brazilian Jujitsu, it works for the initial take down before the rolling starts.
fishfacekooter 2 years ago
If you think MMA is a real fight you're in a dream world. MMA is unbalanced towards grappling. In MMA there are no multiple attackers, nobody gouges eyes, nobody pulls knives. If you can't see the point of Wing Chun you belong in MMA with the rest of the people who like to roll around with sweaty dudes.
carcosa 2 years ago 4
The only thing i dislike about MMA is their lack of technique.That's why they're are not interesting to watch.you'll see 2 guys brawling.That's why no one can beat the spider and GSP b/c they have a solid fundamental techniques.
KrisParagas 2 years ago
Do you think that'd you'd be able to do most of the techniques when there's the threat of someone just tackling you? A. Silva is a BJJ Blackbelt and has a Muay Thai background. Lyoto Machida does Shotokan. GSP? WRESTLING. You don't think they classify as techniques the way they submit their opponents? You really have to understand their art in order to critisize. MMA is not all brute. Brock Lesnar can't win crap. Even The Axe Murderer doesn't win half his fights.
p4u113 2 years ago
And what point are you trying to make my man?Those are the technical fighters.that's why it's hard for the others to beat them because they learned their perspective art to the fullest.Unlike most of the fighters who just brawl and never use their heads.I know and understand their art that's why i believe in those fighters who really stick to their art and they're the one's who are hard to beat
KrisParagas 2 years ago
Yeah, with all the pro boxers, k-1 level kickboxers, olympian and NCAA champion wrestlers, olympian judokas, BJJ world champions, ADCC world champions, Sambo champions, and world class karatekas, there really isn't much skill in professional MMA. Wing Chun guys who never actually fight would definitely kick their ass. - Thanks for your ingenious insight KrisParagas
RebelWrestler45 2 years ago
lol kinda true, but the end of ur text was crap. :( If u think MMA is gay or something, "..people who like to roll around with sweaty dudes." then u are a bit stupid :( .
Palikka07 2 years ago
Hardly-- I'm a person who's watched MA classes, and grappling classes, and wrestling classes, for 20 years now and there's something very, very peculiar about it. Methinks you protest too much...
carcosa 2 years ago
expertvillage sucks
Cybertoco 2 years ago 3
Oh come on you dont even know what he is talking about, keyboard warrior.
takayamahot 2 years ago
He's not doing the lahp(idk how to spell it)-sau properly.. Thumb should be with the other fingers not on its own.
DaveTehSinner 2 years ago
ill tell ya what theyre wearing, the coolest damn outfits money can buy
LLADCcds 2 years ago 3
No mercy killing moves.Sweet.
rollinheightballas 2 years ago
no we like watching them die under hundreds of blows instead of one fast technique
Gantz035 2 years ago
where can i learn wing tsun in singapore?
address and fee ?
tanzhien 2 years ago
AHAHAHAHA
i am learning in a few weeks! and you will be there admiring from youtube videos.AHAHHAH
okay
i think its somewhere around the west side for good masters. (:
rollinheightballas 2 years ago
can u tell me the exact venue...pls .ty
tanzhien 2 years ago
HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT WING TSUN.
jeremywt74 2 years ago
Someone living in Singapore too I see.
th3warr1or 2 years ago
thanks for the clips =)
Steppen03 2 years ago
oh shit... it's keono reaves lmao...
VILLEROTIII 2 years ago
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dont "lmao" to your own jokes.
ajmskateboarding 2 years ago
I wear sweat pants and a t shirt to my wing chun practice. What' the heck are they wearing?
VILLEROTIII 2 years ago 2
Fancy clothes. They're making a video, presentation counts!
superbadlucre 2 years ago 5
i hate when a white guy demonstrates ruins the chinese magic
cooldude1234333 2 years ago 5
it wouldnt be that bad if it was a white guy who wasnt fat and ugly
kapoof2 2 years ago
it's a great drill, thank you
notcool2112 2 years ago
BOMB!
=D
McRgaara 2 years ago
The uniforms are for the loss. Big time. Last I checked, it was not feudal China.
carcosa 2 years ago
Let me tell U about the chain punch Neo! No seriously,this stuff is important & it works.
Timmkitts 2 years ago
What's with this freaking captions?! Thanks to those, I can't see a thing!
Duns 2 years ago
The ones from google???? just close them in the top left of the add at the x............
etesticle 2 years ago
Nice drill but what about the guys left hand?
wannabeebee 2 years ago
Or his right one, for that matter.
Ialwaysgetthatcrap 2 years ago
I don't do wing chun but I've sparred WC guys, it's like sticking your arms into a machine made out of chairlegs.
It's just a drill. They have about 100 other drills, all to build up other reflexes.
carcosa 2 years ago 3
lol I've read your comment like 4 fourtimes and I still don't get it.....about the machine with the chairlegs XD
csaba246 2 years ago
he means that we redirect and deflect everything while at the same time strike...
Gantz035 2 years ago
omg, he looks and sound like keanu reeves.
asian and white mix well I think. Bruce lee is half german too.
and we all know how physically disciplined keanu is in the matrix. He trained like mad until they had to put him in a bathtub of ice.
hongfireonly 3 years ago
hahaha thought I was the only one who thought that
anthonyr1 3 years ago
bruce was only a quarter german
needitnow2007 2 years ago 2
yah he'd be like "whoa..."
uctis 2 years ago 2
he looks like Neo more than Keanu Reeves XD
RiderKAOS 2 years ago 2
shut up
wannabeebee 2 years ago
...and as far as I know WC is very deadly technique, not a sport
maciondo 3 years ago 3
do you sparr then you with mma gloves?
Because traditionally WC is not very effective in the ring..
Ingve1234 3 years ago
Ingve, usually the reason for that is because a lot of martial arts don't allow punches to the head. Kyokushin Karate rules specifically forbid a lot of the things that make WC an effective art.
AznSwordGod 3 years ago
wow... thats what i call speed
ERIKTHECOP 3 years ago
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MMA is mixed martial arts. U can use any martial art to win. Any! There are lot of successful fighters in MMA.... NO kung fu, NO wing-tsun users!!!
GergelyMA 3 years ago
there isn't a single martial art on the planet not based in kung fu.
Tleaf 3 years ago
Wrestling, western boxing, Sambo, BJJ
RebelWrestler45 2 years ago
All based on kung fu :P
indian animal styles --> pancration --> wrestling
kf --> JJ --> BJJ
Tleaf 2 years ago
Really? Please explain that to me. I practice BJJ and I fail to see any similarities between it and classical Gung Fu.
WhiteBeltPerspective 2 years ago
@WhiteBeltPerspective Yo I realize you posted this a long time ago but I also see no one answered your question. JuJitsu was derived from old Chinese grappling arts from Chinese masters that were exiled to Japan. The basis of JuJitsu is found in the Chinese art of Chin Na which has a great deal of grappling techniques in it including moves like the guillotine and other moves most people think comes only out of BJJ. Truth is nearly all Japanese fighting arts can at some point be traced to China.
fredocorleone47 1 year ago
@fredocorleone47 yep that's how it goes. sorry to every1 who thinks these moves were invented in ufc/mma hehe
DonMega187 1 year ago
I train wing chun.. it is not effective in the ring if u train wc only.. you have protection on hands in a ring, therefore the punches have to be harder and stronger than in real life. Wing chun punches are fastest but not that hard..
Ingve1234 3 years ago
If you are not getting power behind them... you are training your punches wrong and or poorly. Ive KOd several with mine, and that was when I was 145lbs. (and using mma gloves)
xiaou2 3 years ago
Still his first point stands: WT/WC is not effective in the ring - it's another paradigm, and not many people seem to understand this. MMA isn't even close to a real fight.
Pharnax 3 years ago 3
My friend, while what you say is not without reason, but you lack information. Another aspect of Wing Chun, which few know about or practice effectively, is power generation, which allows punches to hit VERY hard, even while the hands and arms remain very relaxed. It comes from utilising your core muscles, effectively, your whole body, not just your arms, when you punch.
VorpalDrake 3 years ago 5
Oh geez what an odd argument. First off Bruce Lee DID study Wing Chun Under William Chuang who was the Dia Sihing under Yip Man. I don't believe Bruce Lee was ever a disciple under Yip. Bruce Lee never completed Wing Chun, he didnt fully uderstand it all and never studied the third form nor its weapons. Bruce Lee filled in the gaps that he did not understand concerning wing chun. Wing Chun has no "fixed positions" but is very free to the true artist. Bruce Lee was not the best but most famous.
sam4freedom74 3 years ago 2
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Now do it again without the stupid names!
bluecafe22 3 years ago
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No! Bruce lee never learned or used WING CHUN, he first used Taichi when come to Ocident, awais using low kicks and fast punchs. Later he studied a lot of chinese kung fu traditional style and applyed them over ocidental and japanese styles to prove that his fighting method with no instance and no specific rules are superior of them all, he trained with a lot type of fighters then created JeetKuneDo, using now high kiks, and powerfull punches, so the art of intercepting hands was founded by him.
mequetrepi 3 years ago
He is one of the most famous students of Wing Chun grandmaster Yip Man ?
Thedreamshaperabc 3 years ago
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dude come on you cant controll the oter hand of your oponent with that weak wave style defence, be serious, one more thing what about the kicks to the groin, oooooo i forgot you have your chastity belt on,
ok ok you win.
petelebu 3 years ago
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I still say, this is a copy of Jeet Kune Do, art of intercepting hands, Wing Tsun is not a style, it is trademarked of an association, this type is not a pure fighting , just a path to react in various types of atacks an variety of pression, this is based on a concept, and yes it is after Bruce Lee, and the fighting with no form is a trademark of Jeet Kune Do. You can take this information on library museum of chinese art. So long Wing Tsun dont have already a form. It is a path, like jeetkunedo
mequetrepi 3 years ago
Come oN!!! Jeet kune do is created by bruce lee who originally learned WING CHUN frm Yip Man!!!. Most of the techinques in JKD came from wing chun so do you even know what are you talking about??
mrmrmanhuman 3 years ago 5