How many of these young kids will even be able to throw down when they're Ness's age, never mind compete with a young kid in a battle?!! I'm at least 10 years younger than Ness, and my knees would be destroyed if I tried any of that shit.
yo, go ahead and talk shyt about ness all u want. he reps oldschool, do u even know wut youre lookin at when he dances?? its whole different style. and obv u havent watched any interviews or heard him his knowledge, he's a great teacher and i gotta credit his knowledge to a huge part of my bboy success. y'all go have fun with your right hand tonight.
all yall niggas hatin on ness...stfu, talkin shit is apart of the streets, u eva see ppl play 1vs1 bball in the hood...its playing midgames while u competing...CALL OUT IS NO RULES...yall jus stick to competitions if u want a time limit
You guys are frikin homos talkin "Yo that have so much mad respect for one another." Yeah, i'm sure they love eachother. Ness didn't have to take the call out, but he did and just ran his mouth. He's fuckin lame, and a poor sport.
GUYS quit this 'dance already/talk less dance more' shit, the mouth is also a very useful battle weapon too, buying you time or psychologically messing with your opponent, those who truly understand will feel me
I think some people here( The ones that posted like a couple of weeks or a few months ago) just watched this video just to hate on ness. What happen to respecting other bboys. I don't even think you guys(haters) know ness personally and neither do I but I know in a battle there's always some sort of intimidation. Ray Roc stood his ground. Respect to ness who still accepts any challenge at his age.
ness has to fight back with dance, not talking. I dont care if he takes certain burns personally, its still a cypher and he has to fight dance with dance, not talking down at the other guy.
@mckinley55 I was at the scene..He was actually teaching..The guy made some mistake..watch it back bro!..its too obvious from 0:46..he's not making fun of him..and i thnk that guy actually trying to learn from the President of MZK himself
i love the fucking biaz people that hate ness but know that in thiz battle he waznt even tryin and say he looked so tired and he'z slow even though you look up footage of him now and he still bboys like he's young.....people will say anything juzt to hate but he'z a legend and what are you>?.....
Alien Ness should be passing through his Knowledge only.
His Battle-Energy is done; Can't yall see?!
So let this man enjoy his old days in Peace Lol
The bboycommunity has grown out to be something huge and way different then when he was Rocking; He just need to respect that as same as we respect him.
And he just has to be proud. 'Cause he contributed to it!
But if Ness still gets himself into a battle;
He should rock it like he used to do it and leave the BLABLABLABLA out of it!
Ness got smoked and that's all that happened, enough with all the bs and insinuations as to what happened. Ness may have been injured but he took up the challenge and that's that. In a cypher battle it doesn't matter if you airflare or if you just toprock it's about who goes the longest and you keep your flava.
@wearesuarez rayroc didn't bite. you cant call some shi talking bad toprock and a six step a set. rayroc just brought more to the table and won it. that's all.
@ANDJedi not only did he repeat a zillion times but how many times are you gonna do ivans move geez....yes rayroc brought lame attitude and no rhythm yay
All of you on that foundation tip....smh. foundation is supposed to be a given, like being on beat. Dont talk foundation when you got some dude throwing out shit thats plain and nothing special. it's ridiculous how cats think they can go down, CC, CC, CC 6 step, 2 step, chair freeze and get up like they smoked the world with generic shit. there's a difference between dope creative footwork & basics that everyone's mom knows.
@Krimzj You got to remember Ness is old! he cant keep up like he usually did, and new school looks better visually then ness's old school style. The guy who is really keeping it bboy is ness for STILL battling. Someone who has his mad style and being around when breakin started and who is a true legend. Now thats bboy. Good battle though and i see where you are coming from.
Thats so disrespectful. Ness was called out while injured and still did it. He was trying to talk ray to help but ray is too cocky. lol ray ray ray ray RAY. If ness would try he would smoke ray SOOOOOO bad.
whhoaa. i expected a lot more from alien ness, i honestly think that he got smoked here. not sayin that his stuff wasn't original, it was. but like really, he did in the end.
You guys remember the Machine&Jeromskee (as judges) call out battle? Dudes like Ness and other older cats get tired of gettin called out- sure its understandable, but damn...you dont think that would suck? every jam, u cant enjoy, you gotta battle to prove everytime?
i totally agree with this man right here and i know much of ya don't know a lot from colombia but we're fighting against the f*cking hates on hip hop and most of it break dance culture.peace ....ab3rocker
thing is, Ness has nothing to prove, and even if he wanted to, he cant go on for 7 mins battles with every hungry youngun calling him out, even if i wasnt there, this really seems to be like that, and it's quite pathetic, really disrespectful from Rayroc, giving attitude to a guy twice his age, who was in the game before he was born, I just cant get how he could diss him like that, and I even less understand how youtubers can talk shit about Ness, and no, im not a ness fanboy, just due respect
@Maho2109 I went on bboyworld fairly recent after this battle happened and saw what both Ness and Rayroc had to say about eachother. They both have high respect for each other. Ness I remember sayin something about what certain gestures ment to him and what they mean to most b-boys today. Basically he takes certain burns more personal than Rayroc. In this battle Ness was teaching Rayroc how to battle more than actually battling him. Ness admitted on bboyworld that he lost this battle.
@bboyStuntZ your statements are all right with one exception, i was not disrespectful at all, a lil drunk and loud yes but not distrespectful, if i lost my cool it was because of a cerrtain gesture, whcih you read yourself i dont play with at all.
also, when the music is blasting sometimes you have to get close to someone to say something thats nobody elses business, when you say i got in his face it sounds like i was starting shit,but no, i was talking to him,
@bboyStuntZ i dont get in peoples faces to argue, if i got a problem i swing. the fact that there was no fight shows there was no aggression, im not a lil kid and im not with arguments, certain rray rocs gestures were enuough for me to hook off on hime where i come from but i didnt go there, so please youe proper terms, it makes things look like what they werent. p.s. yes i lost a battle, ive never won a battle injured
@Ness4 Well if you say you weren't disrespectful and Rayroc truly didn't take it as disrespect then fine. It didn't look like that to me though. It's hard to hear everything because of like you said the music. I did my best to not make quick judgements, and to just go by what I saw. Plus everything you typed on bboyworld. The fact Rayroc was backing up and turning his head looked like you weren't giving him enough space to even breathe. I would take that as disrespect. Dats juss me.
@Maho2109 and in this type of battle b-boys are b-boys. Age doesn't matter. RayRoc called out Ness outta respect to try and learn and get better. If anyone was disrespectful it was Ness. All up in Ray's face giving him crap about the moves he did. What you expect Ray to just take that like a coward? Ness was tired, I don't care what anyone says, so he saved energy by running his mouth. He's done allot for da b-boy community and dats cool but can't hate on Ray for doin his thing.
Sad to see the lack of respect. Ness at his age is not in his prime for bboying- you don't diss an OG like that. It's guys like Ness that contributed to what we do. You may disagree with an OG on certain things, but take your shit aside and don't make yourself look like a fool. Ray is obviously in better shape due to his age. What a blemish on your name and rep to have. Never really knew Ray Rock before, but I'll remember him for this. Learn respect young gen.
idk im not hating on him or anything im know my place and i know to respect a legend, i jsut dont feel like you should put someone else down, and yeah i saw hthe hadnshake but idk, w.e i guess u guys are right. and ken swift still does some crazy shit at his age kazi.
the only reason why Ness talks like that is to make the dude feel self-doubt or even simply to teach him something. i guess some of you didn't watch the whole video because in the end RayRoc and Ness still shook each others hands as a sign of respect.
i know ness is well respected and stuff, but he's arrogant as hell, he cant do shit but footwork, cause he hates powermoves, idk he shouldnt be able to talk.
You obviously don't know a thing about the human body. Ness is in his 40's(Not sure exactly) so you come back when you're that old and then try to do that.
ness doesn't deserve respect just b/c he's been in the culture for so long. That's absurd. You don't get respect just b/c you've been in something for a certain amount of time. You earn respect. That means you actually EARN it. Ness never did that. He's disrespectful and arrogant. He's stated before outright that he could smoke Hong 10 any day he felt like it. And he said this very recently. Not when he was in his prime. Ness doesn't deserve respect. No bboy brags about that shit
@CJoMin Just a cocky nigger that got pissed cause everyone could do his shit and his crews shit 10 x better.. Koreas blow up in early 2000 put a big rage into the American community. How sad.. People just cant accept the truth
@ONEMarkus even Crumbs couldn't beat Hong 10. And we all know Crumbs is dope and atleast Crumbs respects Hong 10. Ness might be able to out talk Hong 10 though.
@bboyStuntZ crumbs had one bad day and everyone talks shit......change your name by the way you aint stuntman.....crumbs is better in everyway then hong 10 so please......also hong 10 crashed a million times but people clap for it
@wearesuarez Crumbs still said he won even on his bad day. But I guess if you look at it from Crumbs point of view he makes a few good points. I read da interview on bboyworld. Oh and by the way to you. I damn sure know I ain't stuntman and I don't need you to tell me that. In fact it's pretty damn obvious with my name "StuntZ" which is NOT short for stuntman. I know stuntman from like 5 years ago when he tried to say I was biting his name.
@wearesuarez In fact Poe One called me on this first actually. Then Stuntman came on bboyworld forum all pissed. But I broke down to both of them and I'll break it down to you now. I was breaking for 2 years before I heard of stuntman. When I came up with my name I made sure I didn't call myself stuntman even before I knew of him. StuntZ is just StuntZ not short for anything. It's self explanatory the way I break. Now Stunts from cali is short for stuntman. Unlike mine.
@wearesuarez Plus I spell my name with a Z at the end not an S. Plus there are more than one well known b-boys named Machine. More than one well known b-boys name Dizzy. Plus my name give a better description of the way I dance. Stuntman is all about originality. I do my best to be original as well but I'll admit he's better at that. But NOT at doing stunts. So right there that proves my name is more suited for my style. So guess what? I ain't changing nothing!
@wearesuarez crumbs has my respect but you're overrating him. plus hong10 is getting good now hes been doing training with dyzee and wing. he could def take crumbs.
@ANDJedi sorry but crumbs has been doing his thing since back then and still doing it.....i mean style elements saiz it all...do you fucking know style elements hahaha....please buddy you're just another lame kid who loves all these new dancers that aint got shit on the real bboys outthere....crap like freakshow and all these over seas crews dance to impress and entertain.....it aint all about competitions and airchairs lol....now go suck lilou aka benjis dick and all the other pieces of shit
@wearesuarez you've got some problems haha. and there's nothing wrong with new school bboys. you assume I know nothing because I think hong10 is better than crumbs. I know who style elements are. You talk about old school cats and respect but you have no respect, stop acting like you know shit. you're obviously an ignorant so i'm going to give you some advice, find out who you're insulting before you do it. If you cant back your talk with skills then dont. The real evidence is in the cypher.
@ANDJedi zzzzZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZ oopz i fell azleep did you say anything important?.....you're inzecure and lame...anyone who writez an essay on why he didnt copy stunts from stuntman is guilty or just plain lame....to anzwer your queztion i am insulting a lame mother fucker whos existence is to clap for crashes and jerk off to airchairs....who said new bboys sucked.......i respect people like luigel el nino and other bboys who can fucking rock that beat.....the evidence is in the history....bringit
@ANDJedi It's unfortunate that fool wearesuarez doesn't get it. He thinks just cause we like a new generation b-boy that automatically means we no nothing about our past.
@wearesuarez your comment was directed at ANDJedi but the beginning part suggests you're talking about me. What's up you afraid to reply to me? Look who is lame now. Anyways I proved my point and if you still think I'm biting Stuntman's name you're a damn idiot. Stuntman himself left this biting name crap alone after I gave him pretty much the same explanation I gave you. Poe One as well. If they understand why can't you? Oh right I forgot. You're a damn idiot that's why.
@wearesuarez its ok man. let these guys think the new cats are better. its like Ness said in an interview. theres 2 languages we speakin. its ppl dancin with soul, the very feel of the dance, and then theres ppl just tryna learn the moves themselves. you may think Ness dosnt LOOK better than hong10, but if you REALLY look, you'll see he prolly has a deeper feel for it than most new cats today...
WTF are you guys smoking? Its a battle you don't need to be givin tips you do that at a session lol...
You guys are only on nesses side out of respect because clearly the only COMPLETE set he did was his last one. When you get called out you rep not talk like xianis said....
Ness got powned......By Ray and he got Rock pretty bad.....Ness learn more on moves instead of you mouth and maybe you should of let the guy in the black come in to sve yo sorry ass....Ray Rock just stuck yo head up yo ass....
Mad Respect to Alien Ness and Ray Roc but during a battle you shouldnt speak, just do your damn thing this is not a talkshow, if you got some tips or advice say it after the battle not during the battle.
haha i heard from some vets that alien ness was a nobody back then, and he claims that he was one of the godfathers of breaking just cuz he's old. wack
sayin that ness didnt rock anything? u gotta be deaf, he jus roast a beat bfore minute 5 came in, straight in with the mix by the dj, with that rsc freeze.
idont know why the fck you guys are disrespecting ness because of his age and shet....There's no old or young involved in breaking. But if you guys keep talking shet, then why you still even bother to watch? just go create your own crew that can compete against MZK bitches!! because you guys wont be able to since its world-wide!!!!
street vs suburban time to practice to act like one is street is a waist.
Class barriers are in position all the time in hip hop vs hip pop American dance contest imagery hype.
Alien Ness is a true master.
Bboys these days dont read and become disrespectful knuckle heads, to where they are liable to get bombed on mentally as well as spiritually. The old school is here to teach those who are worthy enough to be taught and discipline the ignorant fools.
well look at that they shake hands after. (For those who think he doesn't have respect) good small cypher battle. Look at the description. Do you need signs? here's one lol
Had nothing to do with respect. He called him out because hes hungry to call people out. Ness needs to shtu that shit up and just battle instead of yapping 24/7 about his ego and all those moves that are "his". Everythings been done before. Mad props to Ray Roc for keeping it bboy.
I dont know what some of you are talking about, heres how it is, ness got smoked, and was sloppy, and tried to cover up that he was getting smoked by running his mouth. end of story
How many of these young kids will even be able to throw down when they're Ness's age, never mind compete with a young kid in a battle?!! I'm at least 10 years younger than Ness, and my knees would be destroyed if I tried any of that shit.
funkateer17 1 week ago
Young Cat calling out a legend? Disgrace to us 2nd 3nd 4th..........
bboytripp3 2 weeks ago
talking is also part of battle, but he gave a speech
MooSlow 3 weeks ago
respect Ness for what hes accomplished but he needs to stop talking if there was a winner it was ray roc.
Yeah talking can be considered part of the battle....but not the majority of the battle.
emptywendysbag 1 month ago
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ALIEN NeSS IS ORIGINAL!
zixrom2 1 month ago
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zixrom2 1 month ago
Do people even read the descriptions anymore?!
Ness was injured, that's why he held back a lot on his runs.
He did talk a lot too, but so what, if you don't like it, STOP watching.
somchanbc 1 month ago
talking is also part of battle kids.
sae05z 2 months ago
yo, go ahead and talk shyt about ness all u want. he reps oldschool, do u even know wut youre lookin at when he dances?? its whole different style. and obv u havent watched any interviews or heard him his knowledge, he's a great teacher and i gotta credit his knowledge to a huge part of my bboy success. y'all go have fun with your right hand tonight.
scm867 4 months ago 3
all yall niggas hatin on ness...stfu, talkin shit is apart of the streets, u eva see ppl play 1vs1 bball in the hood...its playing midgames while u competing...CALL OUT IS NO RULES...yall jus stick to competitions if u want a time limit
dus10ten 4 months ago
ness wast doing shit
TheBboytwisted 4 months ago
politics
BboyNERGi 5 months ago
and they made sweet love afterwards...
renderlogic 6 months ago 2
ness won this battle
henky1234567 7 months ago
@henky1234567 -.- really?
bzerk1 6 months ago
@henky1234567
I would not say that he won.........in my opinion Ray Roc won........ Ness shows nothing, only talk much
MrHlok 4 months ago
You guys are frikin homos talkin "Yo that have so much mad respect for one another." Yeah, i'm sure they love eachother. Ness didn't have to take the call out, but he did and just ran his mouth. He's fuckin lame, and a poor sport.
M2theIdget726 8 months ago
what is this shit?? alien ness sucks
richiehawtin87 8 months ago 4
you can see most of the bboys there was afraid of alieness..lame sucker..the beat is there what you doin staying still ..stones
BboyKetrio 8 months ago
aliennes wasnt trying :P :) haha if he did then thier wouldnt have to be talk about it
limitcszORblackwing 8 months ago
GUYS quit this 'dance already/talk less dance more' shit, the mouth is also a very useful battle weapon too, buying you time or psychologically messing with your opponent, those who truly understand will feel me
STEPASAUR 8 months ago 7
CAN U JUST DANCE ALREADY GEEZ
BboyRandii 9 months ago
I think some people here( The ones that posted like a couple of weeks or a few months ago) just watched this video just to hate on ness. What happen to respecting other bboys. I don't even think you guys(haters) know ness personally and neither do I but I know in a battle there's always some sort of intimidation. Ray Roc stood his ground. Respect to ness who still accepts any challenge at his age.
Peace and dance.
Soulround 9 months ago 2
This is a battle or a conversation? Dance more , talk less
tremerin1 10 months ago
skip the first 6:59 and start watching from 7:00-....this shit should get flagged for spamming wack shit.
johnjuan215 10 months ago
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feels like im watching a marathon of repeats. where was this at? the special olympics??? atleast come correct at a OG....jesus christo.
johnjuan215 10 months ago
feels like im wathing a marathon of repeats. where was this at? the special olympics??? atleast come correct at a OG....jesus christo.
johnjuan215 10 months ago
track at 6:45?
argonPOS 10 months ago
ray roc got em yo homeboy tryin to talk just let your breakin talk for ya son
johnnydangermcgee 1 year ago
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MisterEliasGarcia 1 year ago
it looks like ness told him he is gonna get popped or something so he hugged him
orgat 1 year ago
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orgat 1 year ago
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aznbuldozr 1 year ago
lol at me looking for poe ones seal of apoval and when people lauhged at me i said "yo thats poe1 he knows" lol i was so drunk but had so much fun
Ness4 1 year ago
was that poe one talking to ray roc?
SpikeSpinz 1 year ago
@SpikeSpinz no thats not poe one thats thesis' dad.
hardpancake92 1 year ago
@hardpancake92 oh of course
SpikeSpinz 1 year ago
@SpikeSpinz yeah sure man
hardpancake92 1 year ago
why is ness always talking while battling? XD
TheYaGaHa 1 year ago
@TheYaGaHa this is the only battlee on the whole net that i actualy spoke in, dont know where your claims come from
Ness4 1 year ago
Less QQ more PEW PEW
ray roc dominated so hard that my eyes hurt.
Powermover001 1 year ago
ness has to fight back with dance, not talking. I dont care if he takes certain burns personally, its still a cypher and he has to fight dance with dance, not talking down at the other guy.
DreamRaider1111 1 year ago
@DreamRaider1111
hell ye to much talking not enough battling it is clear that he was tired and he was getting smoked by ray roc
ryleyrobert123 1 year ago
ness talks way 2 much
mckinley55 1 year ago 6
@mckinley55 I was at the scene..He was actually teaching..The guy made some mistake..watch it back bro!..its too obvious from 0:46..he's not making fun of him..and i thnk that guy actually trying to learn from the President of MZK himself
saidre91 6 days ago
ness got fukin served
bandoleers 1 year ago 3
haha
i was tired and injured but that was lots of fun
Ness4 1 year ago
@Ness4 You are the best teacher =) we cant forget foundations like going downs and etc. You are real bboy ! Much respect for you
TheBboyultimate 1 year ago
just shut up and break...........The funny thing is I respect ness and like his style, but talking is not a move-
pseudonym801 1 year ago
i love the fucking biaz people that hate ness but know that in thiz battle he waznt even tryin and say he looked so tired and he'z slow even though you look up footage of him now and he still bboys like he's young.....people will say anything juzt to hate but he'z a legend and what are you>?.....
wearesuarez 1 year ago
yo ness sho did look tired, but he's been bboyin almost as long as hip hop was around.
julien156 1 year ago
RayRoc always be pullin that rollin attack, called you on that boi....Tell them judges back at Beetles heat Ray...Nuff Said! Same moves...Haha!
netradioheyu 1 year ago
ness talked more than he bboyed
man..
ItzEddie 1 year ago
Alien Ness should be passing through his Knowledge only.
His Battle-Energy is done; Can't yall see?!
So let this man enjoy his old days in Peace Lol
The bboycommunity has grown out to be something huge and way different then when he was Rocking; He just need to respect that as same as we respect him.
And he just has to be proud. 'Cause he contributed to it!
But if Ness still gets himself into a battle;
He should rock it like he used to do it and leave the BLABLABLABLA out of it!
gotskillssociety 1 year ago
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RayRoc called out Ness outta respect to try and learn and get better so thats cool!
A Pity that Ness didn't bring it!
PZ to all Bboys; Got mad respect for yall keeping it down!
- An old Cat -
gotskillssociety 1 year ago
whats the guys name behind them with the black cap on? his soul to dance is big! I wanna see what hes got
magician05 1 year ago
Ness got smoked and that's all that happened, enough with all the bs and insinuations as to what happened. Ness may have been injured but he took up the challenge and that's that. In a cypher battle it doesn't matter if you airflare or if you just toprock it's about who goes the longest and you keep your flava.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi how in the fuck doez someone get smoked by a biter?.......you should kill yourzelf.....i'm sure you're a biter az well
wearesuarez 1 year ago
@wearesuarez rayroc didn't bite. you cant call some shi talking bad toprock and a six step a set. rayroc just brought more to the table and won it. that's all.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi not only did he repeat a zillion times but how many times are you gonna do ivans move geez....yes rayroc brought lame attitude and no rhythm yay
wearesuarez 1 year ago
All of you on that foundation tip....smh. foundation is supposed to be a given, like being on beat. Dont talk foundation when you got some dude throwing out shit thats plain and nothing special. it's ridiculous how cats think they can go down, CC, CC, CC 6 step, 2 step, chair freeze and get up like they smoked the world with generic shit. there's a difference between dope creative footwork & basics that everyone's mom knows.
AZNasty 1 year ago
@Krimzj You got to remember Ness is old! he cant keep up like he usually did, and new school looks better visually then ness's old school style. The guy who is really keeping it bboy is ness for STILL battling. Someone who has his mad style and being around when breakin started and who is a true legend. Now thats bboy. Good battle though and i see where you are coming from.
magician05 1 year ago
SO WHO WIN? XDD
thomastmic 1 year ago
Interesting what Ness says to Rayroc =)
9999height 1 year ago
Thats so disrespectful. Ness was called out while injured and still did it. He was trying to talk ray to help but ray is too cocky. lol ray ray ray ray RAY. If ness would try he would smoke ray SOOOOOO bad.
DemonicSessho 1 year ago
whhoaa. i expected a lot more from alien ness, i honestly think that he got smoked here. not sayin that his stuff wasn't original, it was. but like really, he did in the end.
SpikeSpinz 1 year ago
You guys remember the Machine&Jeromskee (as judges) call out battle? Dudes like Ness and other older cats get tired of gettin called out- sure its understandable, but damn...you dont think that would suck? every jam, u cant enjoy, you gotta battle to prove everytime?
IamSimplyPhil 1 year ago
i totally agree with this man right here and i know much of ya don't know a lot from colombia but we're fighting against the f*cking hates on hip hop and most of it break dance culture.peace ....ab3rocker
AB3UNDER 1 year ago
didnt even seem like a battle, just seemed like soeone giving a bit of knowledge too a younger breaker.
evikt14 1 year ago
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Chi6u 1 year ago
song at 4:46 please
doc845 1 year ago
@doc845 did you ever find that song at 4:46?
Chi6u 1 year ago
@Chi6u yes ty
doc845 1 year ago
um .. was ness high in this video .. ? O.o
pspnichol 1 year ago
thing is, Ness has nothing to prove, and even if he wanted to, he cant go on for 7 mins battles with every hungry youngun calling him out, even if i wasnt there, this really seems to be like that, and it's quite pathetic, really disrespectful from Rayroc, giving attitude to a guy twice his age, who was in the game before he was born, I just cant get how he could diss him like that, and I even less understand how youtubers can talk shit about Ness, and no, im not a ness fanboy, just due respect
Maho2109 1 year ago
@Maho2109 I went on bboyworld fairly recent after this battle happened and saw what both Ness and Rayroc had to say about eachother. They both have high respect for each other. Ness I remember sayin something about what certain gestures ment to him and what they mean to most b-boys today. Basically he takes certain burns more personal than Rayroc. In this battle Ness was teaching Rayroc how to battle more than actually battling him. Ness admitted on bboyworld that he lost this battle.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago 11
@bboyStuntZ your statements are all right with one exception, i was not disrespectful at all, a lil drunk and loud yes but not distrespectful, if i lost my cool it was because of a cerrtain gesture, whcih you read yourself i dont play with at all.
also, when the music is blasting sometimes you have to get close to someone to say something thats nobody elses business, when you say i got in his face it sounds like i was starting shit,but no, i was talking to him,
Ness4 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ i dont get in peoples faces to argue, if i got a problem i swing. the fact that there was no fight shows there was no aggression, im not a lil kid and im not with arguments, certain rray rocs gestures were enuough for me to hook off on hime where i come from but i didnt go there, so please youe proper terms, it makes things look like what they werent. p.s. yes i lost a battle, ive never won a battle injured
Ness4 1 year ago
@Ness4 Well if you say you weren't disrespectful and Rayroc truly didn't take it as disrespect then fine. It didn't look like that to me though. It's hard to hear everything because of like you said the music. I did my best to not make quick judgements, and to just go by what I saw. Plus everything you typed on bboyworld. The fact Rayroc was backing up and turning his head looked like you weren't giving him enough space to even breathe. I would take that as disrespect. Dats juss me.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@Maho2109 and in this type of battle b-boys are b-boys. Age doesn't matter. RayRoc called out Ness outta respect to try and learn and get better. If anyone was disrespectful it was Ness. All up in Ray's face giving him crap about the moves he did. What you expect Ray to just take that like a coward? Ness was tired, I don't care what anyone says, so he saved energy by running his mouth. He's done allot for da b-boy community and dats cool but can't hate on Ray for doin his thing.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago 24
@bboyStuntZ wise words my man
jajakevan 1 year ago
@jajakevan word yo. respect.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
De La Soul-Saturday
kingstylez80 1 year ago
first song pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
airlion25 1 year ago
name the first song pleaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
airlion25 1 year ago
name the first song pleaaaaaaaaaaassssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
airlion25 1 year ago
RAYROC ALL THE WAY.........
bboyrickroc 1 year ago
negro maricon baila mas y habla menos.....
paz jejeje :-)
SHAGGYDRYWALL 1 year ago
damn rayrocs seems pretty disrespectful..
nzagito 1 year ago
@nzagito hahaha WHY? cause he smoked ness with his moves and without his words>? he seemed pretty quite to me
jodaho 1 year ago
@jodaho look this battle up on bboyworld, rayroc vs alienness
nzagito 1 year ago
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thats why almost everytime he almost gets his ass beat.
HerroNikki 1 year ago
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thats why almost everytime he almost gets his ass beat.
HerroNikki 1 year ago
thats why almost everytime he almost gets his ass beat.
HerroNikki 1 year ago
rayroc straight bitch moves at calls people out with his camera just in hopes of some footage. hungry for attention is all he is....
HerroNikki 1 year ago
@HerroNikki He did that same shit at black out 2
Called out this dude from headhunters and his homeboy pulled out a camera.
Rayroc is tryna get some shine on youtube lol
I don't blame him though, that's a quick way to blow up
demonic4ce 1 year ago
get his number already!!!
seeii20 1 year ago
get his number already!!!
seeii20 1 year ago
get his number already!!!
seeii20 1 year ago
STFU and dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seeii20 1 year ago
Sad to see the lack of respect. Ness at his age is not in his prime for bboying- you don't diss an OG like that. It's guys like Ness that contributed to what we do. You may disagree with an OG on certain things, but take your shit aside and don't make yourself look like a fool. Ray is obviously in better shape due to his age. What a blemish on your name and rep to have. Never really knew Ray Rock before, but I'll remember him for this. Learn respect young gen.
Gadget, Boogie Brats.
Stadsjapie777 1 year ago
idk im not hating on him or anything im know my place and i know to respect a legend, i jsut dont feel like you should put someone else down, and yeah i saw hthe hadnshake but idk, w.e i guess u guys are right. and ken swift still does some crazy shit at his age kazi.
FloeRockEr 1 year ago
the only reason why Ness talks like that is to make the dude feel self-doubt or even simply to teach him something. i guess some of you didn't watch the whole video because in the end RayRoc and Ness still shook each others hands as a sign of respect.
ONEMarkus 1 year ago
i know ness is well respected and stuff, but he's arrogant as hell, he cant do shit but footwork, cause he hates powermoves, idk he shouldnt be able to talk.
FloeRockEr 1 year ago
You obviously don't know a thing about the human body. Ness is in his 40's(Not sure exactly) so you come back when you're that old and then try to do that.
Kazi900o 1 year ago
lol nasty ray at the end that nigga was funny he didnt do shit lol ness is dope ray did good it was fun to watch
spog1987 1 year ago
i see y ness doesnt like powermovers he looks weak as shit can he lift 60 pounds
ShuckyDucky09 1 year ago
arrogance vs. disrespect! =S
qrock01 1 year ago
arrogance vs. disrespect!! =S
qrock01 1 year ago
ness is a legend, he deserves his respect,buttt he talks to much,and the way he acts towards bboys at jams kinda gives himslef a bad name..
wiliskool 1 year ago 3
@wiliskool
ness doesn't deserve respect just b/c he's been in the culture for so long. That's absurd. You don't get respect just b/c you've been in something for a certain amount of time. You earn respect. That means you actually EARN it. Ness never did that. He's disrespectful and arrogant. He's stated before outright that he could smoke Hong 10 any day he felt like it. And he said this very recently. Not when he was in his prime. Ness doesn't deserve respect. No bboy brags about that shit
CJoMin 1 year ago 3
@CJoMin Just a cocky nigger that got pissed cause everyone could do his shit and his crews shit 10 x better.. Koreas blow up in early 2000 put a big rage into the American community. How sad.. People just cant accept the truth
katrashis 1 year ago
Ness could smoke Hong 10. Its even in Ness' name. Supreme styles.
ONEMarkus 1 year ago
@ONEMarkus even Crumbs couldn't beat Hong 10. And we all know Crumbs is dope and atleast Crumbs respects Hong 10. Ness might be able to out talk Hong 10 though.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@bboyStuntZ crumbs had one bad day and everyone talks shit......change your name by the way you aint stuntman.....crumbs is better in everyway then hong 10 so please......also hong 10 crashed a million times but people clap for it
wearesuarez 1 year ago
@wearesuarez Crumbs still said he won even on his bad day. But I guess if you look at it from Crumbs point of view he makes a few good points. I read da interview on bboyworld. Oh and by the way to you. I damn sure know I ain't stuntman and I don't need you to tell me that. In fact it's pretty damn obvious with my name "StuntZ" which is NOT short for stuntman. I know stuntman from like 5 years ago when he tried to say I was biting his name.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez In fact Poe One called me on this first actually. Then Stuntman came on bboyworld forum all pissed. But I broke down to both of them and I'll break it down to you now. I was breaking for 2 years before I heard of stuntman. When I came up with my name I made sure I didn't call myself stuntman even before I knew of him. StuntZ is just StuntZ not short for anything. It's self explanatory the way I break. Now Stunts from cali is short for stuntman. Unlike mine.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez Plus I spell my name with a Z at the end not an S. Plus there are more than one well known b-boys named Machine. More than one well known b-boys name Dizzy. Plus my name give a better description of the way I dance. Stuntman is all about originality. I do my best to be original as well but I'll admit he's better at that. But NOT at doing stunts. So right there that proves my name is more suited for my style. So guess what? I ain't changing nothing!
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez Oh and another thing. Stuntman and I are friends. I got dude on my msn.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez crumbs has my respect but you're overrating him. plus hong10 is getting good now hes been doing training with dyzee and wing. he could def take crumbs.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi sorry but crumbs has been doing his thing since back then and still doing it.....i mean style elements saiz it all...do you fucking know style elements hahaha....please buddy you're just another lame kid who loves all these new dancers that aint got shit on the real bboys outthere....crap like freakshow and all these over seas crews dance to impress and entertain.....it aint all about competitions and airchairs lol....now go suck lilou aka benjis dick and all the other pieces of shit
wearesuarez 1 year ago
@wearesuarez you've got some problems haha. and there's nothing wrong with new school bboys. you assume I know nothing because I think hong10 is better than crumbs. I know who style elements are. You talk about old school cats and respect but you have no respect, stop acting like you know shit. you're obviously an ignorant so i'm going to give you some advice, find out who you're insulting before you do it. If you cant back your talk with skills then dont. The real evidence is in the cypher.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi zzzzZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZ oopz i fell azleep did you say anything important?.....you're inzecure and lame...anyone who writez an essay on why he didnt copy stunts from stuntman is guilty or just plain lame....to anzwer your queztion i am insulting a lame mother fucker whos existence is to clap for crashes and jerk off to airchairs....who said new bboys sucked.......i respect people like luigel el nino and other bboys who can fucking rock that beat.....the evidence is in the history....bringit
wearesuarez 1 year ago
@wearesuarez haha whatever. if you cant respect all aspects of bboying then I have no time for you. learn first, then talk.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi It's unfortunate that fool wearesuarez doesn't get it. He thinks just cause we like a new generation b-boy that automatically means we no nothing about our past.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez your comment was directed at ANDJedi but the beginning part suggests you're talking about me. What's up you afraid to reply to me? Look who is lame now. Anyways I proved my point and if you still think I'm biting Stuntman's name you're a damn idiot. Stuntman himself left this biting name crap alone after I gave him pretty much the same explanation I gave you. Poe One as well. If they understand why can't you? Oh right I forgot. You're a damn idiot that's why.
bboyStuntZ 1 year ago
@wearesuarez its ok man. let these guys think the new cats are better. its like Ness said in an interview. theres 2 languages we speakin. its ppl dancin with soul, the very feel of the dance, and then theres ppl just tryna learn the moves themselves. you may think Ness dosnt LOOK better than hong10, but if you REALLY look, you'll see he prolly has a deeper feel for it than most new cats today...
TheGraffiteGhost 1 year ago
fuk this battle suck
satellite180 1 year ago 2
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Bboypula 1 year ago
4:46 Song???
greenfox93 1 year ago
WTF are you guys smoking? Its a battle you don't need to be givin tips you do that at a session lol...
You guys are only on nesses side out of respect because clearly the only COMPLETE set he did was his last one. When you get called out you rep not talk like xianis said....
foxboy212 1 year ago 2
props to Ness
keep cyphers hot and bless the mic!
Fabregas200788 1 year ago
unless you understand the situation and were there listening, don't comment on it. I have no idea what went down in this video so I cant say shit.
brood909 2 years ago
Ness got powned......By Ray and he got Rock pretty bad.....Ness learn more on moves instead of you mouth and maybe you should of let the guy in the black come in to sve yo sorry ass....Ray Rock just stuck yo head up yo ass....
mongokid1 2 years ago
Ray roc took it. Rather he had an attitude (which i didnt see) or if ness was just teaching. Big ups ray!
BboyBlackout 2 years ago
Mad Respect to Alien Ness and Ray Roc but during a battle you shouldnt speak, just do your damn thing this is not a talkshow, if you got some tips or advice say it after the battle not during the battle.
BBoyHamody 2 years ago 2
haha i heard from some vets that alien ness was a nobody back then, and he claims that he was one of the godfathers of breaking just cuz he's old. wack
ddpurin5150 2 years ago 2
ness didnt get smoked...
ness was tryin to give ray roc some tips n u can clearly see ray roc's cocky attitude n not really caring...
ness was on point...
ajbsmiley707 2 years ago
Ness got smoked, if i got called out im not talk im goin to rep .
xianis 2 years ago
sayin that ness didnt rock anything? u gotta be deaf, he jus roast a beat bfore minute 5 came in, straight in with the mix by the dj, with that rsc freeze.
Hamsetan 2 years ago
ness talks about the real bboys back in the day rocking every beat that was played... i didn't see him rock anything
NCTN99 2 years ago 2
@NCTN99 are u deaf?
hitTHEMbeats 1 year ago
Ness is the coolst shit ever!
idont know why the fck you guys are disrespecting ness because of his age and shet....There's no old or young involved in breaking. But if you guys keep talking shet, then why you still even bother to watch? just go create your own crew that can compete against MZK bitches!! because you guys wont be able to since its world-wide!!!!
ryukininam 2 years ago
each hip hop is different to every one...
street vs suburban time to practice to act like one is street is a waist.
Class barriers are in position all the time in hip hop vs hip pop American dance contest imagery hype.
Alien Ness is a true master.
Bboys these days dont read and become disrespectful knuckle heads, to where they are liable to get bombed on mentally as well as spiritually. The old school is here to teach those who are worthy enough to be taught and discipline the ignorant fools.
bouncelectric303 2 years ago
Whats the move called at 0:41?
asdunn2 2 years ago
so you dont know how it started but yoou know ray lcalled him out --__--
jeeztheysuck 2 years ago
hahahahah guy in the black was lookn for his 15min of fame!!!
DARTHFLVA 2 years ago
haha ness blows.
PhesRock 2 years ago
@PhesRock you do realize the guy is old enough to be your father. pay respect.
xpreshun 2 years ago
well look at that they shake hands after. (For those who think he doesn't have respect) good small cypher battle. Look at the description. Do you need signs? here's one lol
Generik 2 years ago
One Love.
Almightykang 2 years ago
that was whack
BBOYdaimyo 2 years ago
Ray Roc killed it..Ness need to quit b-boyin before he break his fuckin hip. B-Boy Grandpa....
reid85g 2 years ago
Lets the dancing do the talking pls :(
atown2k3 2 years ago
how old is ness now
stylezNout 2 years ago
hes like 80 lol
camacho8875 2 years ago
ness is wack and full of shit ness plz move the fuck away from a cypher ur old and a fuck twat
jamedinho 2 years ago
ray roc has no respect from the OG "ness" haha! bad ass bboy!
bboydefier 2 years ago
Had nothing to do with respect. He called him out because hes hungry to call people out. Ness needs to shtu that shit up and just battle instead of yapping 24/7 about his ego and all those moves that are "his". Everythings been done before. Mad props to Ray Roc for keeping it bboy.
Krimzj 2 years ago 22
hahaha..that's bullsh*t
bboydefier 2 years ago
@Krimzj word, Ness to much talking not enough bboying??
elsunn 1 year ago
@elsunn ness doesnt bboy, he breaks
typicalman929 1 year ago
@typicalman929 its the same thing, two names.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
@ANDJedi watch "5 things ness hates"
typicalman929 1 year ago
@typicalman929 I've seen it. that's just ness thinking he means something. respect to old heads and all but some need to shut up.
ANDJedi 1 year ago
wut the fuck is all ur guyssess problems, this was a teaching battle
sn299 2 years ago
i woulda dropped his ass
knowskill5 2 years ago
DAMIT I WAS HERE AND I MISSED IT!!!
SeoEricc 2 years ago
I dont know what some of you are talking about, heres how it is, ness got smoked, and was sloppy, and tried to cover up that he was getting smoked by running his mouth. end of story
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