Weakest Martial Art On Earth

[shaolindrunk]

your ba gua zhang looks pretty good to me, so I can only assume you don't really mean "weak"? is there a certain phrase you're translating in this regard? maybe the english word "soft" is a more suitable equivalent?

[ogscott]

@shaolindrunk The term "rou" is almost always translated "weak" but it doesn't necessarily mean "deficient" the way the English term does. "Cultivate Weakness" is a Daoist precept, like "Be Honest" or "Practice Stillness". We are strong enough already simply by being born human. The practice of Bagua Zhang involves the systematic weakening of normal human strength and power so that it might be replaced by emptiness and potentiality. Check out my Blog "Weakness With A Twist"

[cthomas1701]

You have a good flow but your splitting palms needs a bit of work. You need to sink a bit deeper into it and "emerge" into the posture. Just an observation. Good on you and thanks for sharing.

[msayofemi1]

looks like 10 people still believe that te vulcan nerve pinch is real

[mamba109]

@msayofemi1 Those moves are possible. A quick finger jab into acupuncture point CV 22, I guarantee you will hit the ground, regardless if you are 150lbs or 300lbs.

[msayofemi1]

@mamba109 the vulcan nerve pinch was a pinch to a shoulder not a jab lol

[mamba109]

@msayofemi1 I said "these moves" in general are possible, regarding attacking a certain point to knock someone out. I was not talking about the vulcan death grip in particular.

[BaGuaPerfectionist1]

my teacher is john ng and rick pickens i learned a hui family linear ba gua form and it is not done for nothing it is done for healing at some points and vibrating palm at others and fire palm n other spots. after beginning the bagua my lower back pain vanished in six months i had a heart condition called atrialphibulation also know as a-phib and it is a distant memory now aswell. ba Gua is a dual art it is an amazing healing art but what is most efficiant at doing is crippling and killing.

[baguaplayer]

All your demonstrations are great and funny. I wish all of your critics would either put up a video of their own or just STFU.

[TOMAHAWK212]

lol, he'd probably trash you,hahaha

[BlakeDemon]

bla these kind of form of practice have to be learn by feeling and knowing the motion... you get nothing if you just plainly move for the sake of moving... it will be sucks if your coach/master doesn't teach you the application of it, and how you really should move, e.g. using the correct amount of energy on certain part of body, breathing technique, how the technique can flow into different direction, etc...

[ogscott]

@BlakeDemon Not sure what you are talking about here, but one of the things that makes Daoist arts so unique is that you can practice them for NOTHING! Nothing CAN be the goal because our true nature is just fine the way it is. We don't need improvement. But for those of you who want to play with energy and application and extraordinary power...we got that too. Come to North Star Martial Arts and we'll hook you up.

[86jway]

Interesting! I haven't seen those moves used in the MMA, yet.

[chibraxial]

@86jway

:)

[BaGuaPerfectionist1]

@86jway you wont see it because alot of ba gua is considered small joint manipulation which is illegal i know i use to cage fight i also learned stricking with an open palm is illegal i cant stress to you how brutal bagua truely is it is designed in a time when you lived or died by your skills and it was among the elite of its time behind tai qi alone i will when i can get a camera make a video of my first three segments with application and put it on here.

[rrobsr]

Great job!

I've owned a school in San Diego for 20 years and I've always said we build weak bodies here! But I would think that perfect strength comes from perfect weakness. First invest in weakness and see what strength comes from it. It's pretty good!

[ogscott]

@rrobsr Thanks for the kind words!

[blackhellization]

@ogscott Can you give me the name of the song that is being played in the video?

[ogscott]

@blackhellization It's great music from Yunnan China, I have a few field recordings from different ethnic groups in that area that came to me through a friend who is a composer who knows someone who knows someone else. I can't help you with this particular recording but there is other stuff out there! Search for "minority music from yunnan" or "Yi music from Yunnan" or "Wa music from yunnan"....good luck!

[wptelemarker]

Incredible movement! It looks like someone has spent thousands of hours practicing!

[loeaglelo]

baguazhang is an internal style of martial arts, like taichi and xingyi. there is nothing weak about it--real traditional practitioners of any of these arts are something to be contended with.

[ogscott]

@loeaglelo Weakness is a basic Daoist precept. All the high level arts are weak by choice. "Be uncontentious and no one will compete with you" --Laozi. But hey if you want to test your skills....

[Ulcerbloom]

what's the song playing on this one? it really grabbed my attention.

[loon101013]

to those saying this is like dancing then you are very correct! but the definition of dancing is two people moving together usually to a beat though sometimes not. so would dancing not be martial art or vise versa. and to call a move "fancy" when speaking in terms of combat is just foolish. have you ever been hit with a fancy technique? after you have fancy turns to deadly quick.

[Ryomoto]

I believe that when in a position of relaxation and absolute calm; your body is able to operate at its most efficient. You are able to make the necessary adjustments without putting your joints and longer, more vulnerable bones in harms way. You're able to react to the obstacle directly, your brain not required to make adjustments due to the fact your body is operating on sheer instinct. Reaction to what the senses are receiving. Ancient concept behind Jeet Kune Do, right? Always been my take.

[9alleys]

Thats weak dude.

[imbrd]

huh- interesting u say that- maybe u didnt learn right?.. cuz from what i kno, bagua was originally & still is like a graduate school form of internal arts w/ highly efficient,intricate&effective movements

[OneAngryAsian]

Maybe you don't understand internet irony

[imbrd]

is it irony- lol ?

[ogscott]

Actually I call my blog Weakness with a Twist. I write a lot about "weakness" as a Daoist precept. Without this 1st century precept as a base, the internal arts would never have been invented and developed.

No intricate movements are effective in fighting because the hormones released into ones body make fine motor control impossible.

[imbrd]

I agree that "Fine motor control" is impossible- the fanciful movements are actually forced- which actually violates internal principles. It is the principles that r important- by training these, over time they become natural & implemented in daily routine- when u walk, cook, open a door, u must naturally abide to those principles. Then from those principles will naturally spawn a flurry of techniques u can naturally use w/o much force

[Ryomoto]

@imbrd You don't have to be fancy in self defense, which is probably the point you are all making, but I believe that even uncomfortable positions have pro's to them. If you are showing your enemy your weakest point, any motion you make only serves to strengthen your position. I hate how arts teach you moves and combo's. Fighting is about having a full arsenal to choose from when fate puts you in the position they'd assist you in. We can't determine the future, but we can certainly adapt to it!

[metroh1]

That is somewhat true, except for the fact that muscle memory and natural reaction make up for it. Now I do agree that the more fanciful moves fall by the wayside, but some moves become learned and natural. Studying in Xing Yi and Krav Maga for several years I find myself reacting with what I have learned. Idk maybe its just me : ), Thanks for making awesome Videos!

[dekal1]

@metroh1 I practice Chen Tai Chi. When someone throws a punch at my face my hand is there to block it. And go into the next attack.

[BlakeDemon]

@ogscott It is possible to make fine motor control. I did it before with taiji when encounter fight incident, but it was reaction kind of stuff, there was too many fast motion to the point that my eyes couldn't catch the speed itself at that time. IMO what makes those move possible are only if your body/mind aren't tense, and able to feelthe motion. But what i hate is that it is not easy to control, it takes long period of time to grasp it. Else, i have to rely on reaction to use some of themove

[ogscott]

@BlakeDemon I agree with you, fine motor control is possible. It's just not very reliable, meaning--if we are dividing up our methods in to two groups, fine motor goes in the "B" group, not the "A" it works great group. Interestingly, women, if they fight, often have fine motor control for up to twenty minutes! Men usually loose it in the first 3 seconds.