lolz obviously the Russian mob is holding bets on who wins and therefore they paid off Jaedong to play 'tired.' Let him take one game, just to make it seem legit.
The 80/20 can only be used if they would only fight each other, but since they fight other players too Calm could easily have 50% win ratio (I think most pros have >50%)
If anything, his chance is probably the ratio of his win rate to Jaedong's (don't know what it is) but let's say his is 50% and Jaedong's is 80%. Then it would be 5/8 (5 out of 13) so around 38%.
he broke through this season with strategy alone, in all matchups that is not just ZvZ. yes I was still surprised that Calm beat Jaedong, both because I didnt think strategy could play such a big role in a ZvZ and of course the Jaedong factor, but Calm proved me wrong... yet still, if it was Effort, Oversky, etc there instead of Calm than I'm pretty sure Jaedong woulda eaten them alive...
wow, first time I hear those predictions of yours, and I have to disagree(even before knowing the results). let me make myself clear: you said "if it was Effort, Oversky, etc than they might have had a chance, but not Calm" here I say the exact opposite, and here is why: Effort, Oversky, etc rely on their mechanics and studying their opponement(really easy to study Jaedong cause well, he's the best and rather predictable). Calm on the other hand has rather bad mechanics but superb strategy!
Haha, I remember watching those on Jon747. I saw the first game. Then I saw part of the 2nd game, but not the end.
When Calm won the 3rd game, I was thinking "Well, JD must have won the 2nd." And when Calm took the 4th game, I was totally shocked. I thought that Jaedong's ZvZ was unbeatable and that there were 4 videos meant he lost a single game. Really, he only won one out of four. :'(
Funny video, but you're too hard on yourself, moletrap. Everyone -- at least who follows SC -- knew JD was a prohibitive favorite. Even the greats lose sometimes, though.
I think it's "too many games" syndrome hitting him. Like Flash a year or two ago.
I've always been afraid of ZvZ because even with a super high win %, it's still very unpredictable. Every game is like a bunker rush. Especially when JD 12-hatches.
Yeah It's from last summer's OSL finals of July vs Best just when July drone-drills Best's zealots and opens his ramp. It even birthed the expression "Bisu-face".
Well, I am happy that you are able to poke fun of yourself. :P However, I do agree that this was unexpected by a lot of people, so you should not feel too bad about it.
basically i think that other zergs have caught up somewhat with JD. 12 hatch was ok a few months ago when his quality gap was larger but nowdays it is tighter than it used to be. Tiredness is also a factor but in my opinion not the main one.
yeah the 4 pool was a rush, but Fantasy did hold it off, he lost due to the aftershock of Jaedong's 4 pool, not the 4 pool itself... and please, 9 pool+speed, that's a *standard* build! Fantasy built a crappy wall, especially when he saw his position at the top(and knew his units will come out outside the wall) he just expected Jaedong to go for his trademark Mutas instead of early but standard lings...
perhaps he didnt prepare, but it's still Jaedong, ZvZ and a Bo5... lack of preparation alone doesnt cut it, especially when he faced Effort, Hyuk and Orion in Proleague(all Zergs) and at least the matches against Effort should have been expected... not to mention that in the OSL finals he was bound to get a Zerg(either Type-B or Yellow[arnc]) and that his ZvZ is his *strongest* matchup in the first place...
Remember that BisuFace :)
Think it was wile finals betweem julyzerg and some good protoss...
Cimbom1990GS 5 months ago
Man, calm looks like Kermit the frog xD
KommanderBaker 10 months ago
whoa did jaedong just get out mutas in the first minute of the game?
Ram3nf0x668 1 year ago
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hizzlemafizzle 1 year ago
old 8 bit grafics still look better than starcraft 2 grafics...
69lol69 1 year ago
@xantares13 no, that's the percentage chance og winning 3 games in a row, redo highschool ploox, kthxbai ^^
ihazl33tskillzdwi 1 year ago
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG? I MUST KNOW
hotamali 2 years ago 3
@hotamali it sounds like Ronnie James Dio....so maybe Black Sabbath or Dio or Elf :S
RantingGerman 1 year ago
awe the invincible jaedong lost hahaaaa, calm is pretty solid man does he ever upset starfans
Krazywoot 2 years ago
btw, p.s., gotta love the way they put loser's pic in a box with WINNER underneath...
aaronhedberg 2 years ago 4
Generally you can tell by their facial expressions :)
Stormwern 2 years ago
lolz obviously the Russian mob is holding bets on who wins and therefore they paid off Jaedong to play 'tired.' Let him take one game, just to make it seem legit.
aaronhedberg 2 years ago
@aaronhedberg We didn't have anything to do with it.
ColonelVolkov 1 year ago
lol at Bisu, maybe he mind controlled calm hence the look on his face
Jaedongs winrate was 80% so that means the other persons chance is 20%, to win 3 games is .2 x .2 x .2 is .008
, thats a 0.8 percent chance of winning, so yeah
xantares13 2 years ago
u know its not valid
it gives general validation of the guy's strengths
jaedong is like 63% in zvp and 68 in zvt
but his zvp is much better than his zvt since in his early career he no zvp skills
people who are slumping cant be predicted
and lets not talk about the mind games in best out of 3 or 5
if u loose game 1 and 2 do u really think unless u'r a tough sob u'll be able to win the 3rd 4th and 5th most people just lose the 5th
and so on and on for reasons not to trust %
barbahaba 2 years ago
That's math for y.a
LaurentRascal 2 years ago
The 80/20 can only be used if they would only fight each other, but since they fight other players too Calm could easily have 50% win ratio (I think most pros have >50%)
Kornmeister 2 years ago
Actually it's much more complicated than that. You didn't even take into account Calm's win rate. What if it was 85%? or 2%?
hcferago 2 years ago
If anything, his chance is probably the ratio of his win rate to Jaedong's (don't know what it is) but let's say his is 50% and Jaedong's is 80%. Then it would be 5/8 (5 out of 13) so around 38%.
hcferago 2 years ago
Damn I love this music
pianomikey0 2 years ago
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psychon90 2 years ago
SONG PLZZ!!!
aahhpe 2 years ago
song?
xkrnposerx256 2 years ago
lol moletrap i love him too but oversky? no way he could take down the dong. although thatd be awesome if he ever does
funnybananaman94 2 years ago
subliminal Bisu, LoL XD
kryos12 2 years ago 2
That's awesome...I think no one expected Calm to micro as well as he did (i.e. well enough to win if he played his cards right).
drygel16 2 years ago
can't believe jaedong lost. he seemed incredibly tired I guess but still.
userasdf 2 years ago
LOL
stevenBig1 2 years ago
Can't forget getting owned by Luxury!
MapleSyrup8 2 years ago
lolz thats hillarious
consumed024 2 years ago
moletrap, plz make a comentary video on hyuk vs jaedong?? please u gotta do it =)
Ctrustbank 2 years ago
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thanks for spoiling the games in the title of your video, moletrap.
SovietSR71 2 years ago
What game is the bisu face from? I remember seeing it and now I just completely forget.
crazy4crz 2 years ago
Batoo OSL Best v Julyzerg on Colleseum. five pool madness
uchihabitch 2 years ago
It wasn't the 5 pool game though. It was the drone drill in the second game and that's why Bisu was so surprised.
AtomCannister 2 years ago 6
It was the Ever OSL...
veryfastpicket 2 years ago
he broke through this season with strategy alone, in all matchups that is not just ZvZ. yes I was still surprised that Calm beat Jaedong, both because I didnt think strategy could play such a big role in a ZvZ and of course the Jaedong factor, but Calm proved me wrong... yet still, if it was Effort, Oversky, etc there instead of Calm than I'm pretty sure Jaedong woulda eaten them alive...
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago
wow, first time I hear those predictions of yours, and I have to disagree(even before knowing the results). let me make myself clear: you said "if it was Effort, Oversky, etc than they might have had a chance, but not Calm" here I say the exact opposite, and here is why: Effort, Oversky, etc rely on their mechanics and studying their opponement(really easy to study Jaedong cause well, he's the best and rather predictable). Calm on the other hand has rather bad mechanics but superb strategy!
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago
"Game 4 (4:58):
Calm - red
Jaedong - purple"
??
bbqz23 2 years ago
it was originally that, but then commentators set jd as ally and enabled allied colors
FliBerries 2 years ago
roflmao way to go
Cillence 2 years ago
best ZvZ ever.. I only get slightly bored through those 9 minutes of it.. and I even "saw" all the games :D
ycfeatbn 2 years ago
Haha, I remember watching those on Jon747. I saw the first game. Then I saw part of the 2nd game, but not the end.
When Calm won the 3rd game, I was thinking "Well, JD must have won the 2nd." And when Calm took the 4th game, I was totally shocked. I thought that Jaedong's ZvZ was unbeatable and that there were 4 videos meant he lost a single game. Really, he only won one out of four. :'(
DArtagnonW 2 years ago
rofl bisu face was epic :D
ColonelVolkov 2 years ago
:O bisuface
What was that jazzy tune during the whole thing?
Homermon 2 years ago
8:24 is awesome!!!:DDDD It even looks like Tylers Durdens work, from a movie Fight Club!:DDD
SleeperLv 2 years ago
Lol @ 8:24
MrCoolAsFire 2 years ago 3
LMAO bisu
r4j2iLL 2 years ago 2
jaedong* sry^^
5p1t 2 years ago
jeadong is the best zvz player. ever.
5p1t 2 years ago
Funny video, but you're too hard on yourself, moletrap. Everyone -- at least who follows SC -- knew JD was a prohibitive favorite. Even the greats lose sometimes, though.
I think it's "too many games" syndrome hitting him. Like Flash a year or two ago.
Arathorn1973 2 years ago
haha i forgot about the bisu shocked moment...what game was that from?
crimsonninja6995 2 years ago
july best osl, when july did the drone drill on set 2
frankily 2 years ago
july - best @ ever osl 08 game2 drone drill
iksueps 2 years ago
Thanks for a great highlight reel! Saves having to watch 4 ZvZ games. Hey what was music piece you were using?
yutgoyun 2 years ago
Haha moletrap, you're awesome =P
synix09 2 years ago 2
LOL, why was Bisu's face there? That was a big surprise and roflcopter moment for me xD
hugsrwarmy 2 years ago
Oversky was one of the few Zergs with a decent record against JD.
Wogrim 2 years ago
Title of this vid spoiled it =(
I've always been afraid of ZvZ because even with a super high win %, it's still very unpredictable. Every game is like a bunker rush. Especially when JD 12-hatches.
Wogrim 2 years ago
how does it spoil it, it says that he got owned by jeadong and calm that doesnt mean anything really
TacoMaster07 2 years ago
How does a commentator get owned other than their expectations be destroyed? And JD was the obvious favorite.
Wogrim 2 years ago
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ur an idiot
TacoMaster07 2 years ago
NOooo Jaedongngngng
what's ahppeneing?!?!?!?!
this may be the fall...
sohpro 2 years ago
stfu he won osl
TacoMaster07 2 years ago
surprised bisu is surprised
rhodric 2 years ago
this is the fall i know it.....
Nodprophet 2 years ago
rofl i remember in one of your commentaries saying how jaedong won.. i was like wtf. i watched that set...
AzureSky317 2 years ago
8:48 sums it up right there.
ajsb1986 2 years ago
jaedong no
Khanstant 2 years ago
can you tell me who the piano player is?
connorbfitz 2 years ago
That was Bisu in the zomg pic rite?
fatshadow92 2 years ago
Yeah It's from last summer's OSL finals of July vs Best just when July drone-drills Best's zealots and opens his ramp. It even birthed the expression "Bisu-face".
OptimusNice 2 years ago
Well, I am happy that you are able to poke fun of yourself. :P However, I do agree that this was unexpected by a lot of people, so you should not feel too bad about it.
TomPhoenixSC 2 years ago
it's videos like this that make you irresistable
have my babies moletrap
mgol42 2 years ago
wow shocking....jaedong still best zerg in the world..
Hazedream 2 years ago
Well, you can never stay at the top for TOO long...
Giga8yte 2 years ago 2
nice soundtrack! who's on the keys?
marchoppler 2 years ago
Hahaha, that music was great
ModeLTU 2 years ago 2
i don't know how a guy who never lost more than 4 games in a row can be on a slump
jackal327 2 years ago
lol 8:24
Boom8612 2 years ago 2
So ?
You thought Jaedong would play like he always does.
Well he didnt he absolutley failed theres no way you can predict when someone like JD has a Bad day.
larzarus1234 2 years ago
or when calm has a very good day
cpricejones 2 years ago
y that probably also played into it but normaly Jaedong should be able to adapt and come up with a better strategy ;)
larzarus1234 2 years ago
i predicted calm over jaedong
stuslegend 2 years ago
basically i think that other zergs have caught up somewhat with JD. 12 hatch was ok a few months ago when his quality gap was larger but nowdays it is tighter than it used to be. Tiredness is also a factor but in my opinion not the main one.
londondaily 2 years ago 2
lol @ the Bisu face cuz into the vid
KingCharlesAK 2 years ago
even calm cant believe it
noamzilo 2 years ago
Zvz is the worst match-up of all the combinations.But this was the best I´ve ever seen. You should make more vids on your own channel Moletrap.
doyoudd 2 years ago 2
8:24 !!
zlobber 2 years ago
How about he stops 12 hatching every game.
itsfap 2 years ago
hah...i swear July vs Best was the most awesome OSL final if for no other reason than purely for bisuface :)
lol PWNT
woogynie 2 years ago
Bisuface. XD
Also, spoilers below.
He lost to Hyuk in the proleague and Effort at GomTV. I dunno what's happening here.
ZaneFleia 2 years ago
In what VOD does Bisu do the funny face?
ianstarcraft 2 years ago
it was some finals. best vs july and bisu was in the audience. map was troy. try searching.
laguuni 2 years ago
one of the OSL final sets between July vs Best... I think it was 3rd or 4th
wowza161 2 years ago
Set 2, I'm pretty sure of that at least. There wasn't a 4th set ;)
Cpadolf0 2 years ago
EVER OSL 2008 FInals - July v. Best Set 2 on Troy
TealLurker 2 years ago
What vid is it Bisu makes the funny face in?
ianstarcraft 2 years ago
ew, how can u say that? he was over worked by all his leagues, but he is in no way a slump
have you check the osl lately? he ripped through zero and fantasy with little problems
and when he faced effort again in a later match up, he completely outclassed effort
DarkLink6590 2 years ago 2
no, it was 1 1 then two rushes
edsfedsf 2 years ago
yeah the 4 pool was a rush, but Fantasy did hold it off, he lost due to the aftershock of Jaedong's 4 pool, not the 4 pool itself... and please, 9 pool+speed, that's a *standard* build! Fantasy built a crappy wall, especially when he saw his position at the top(and knew his units will come out outside the wall) he just expected Jaedong to go for his trademark Mutas instead of early but standard lings...
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago
you know, i had a nagging feeling this would happen when we were recording that show. this is quite hilarious. :)
- Matt
MattandSteveSC 2 years ago
This was really depresing to watch :(
lordhenry4000 2 years ago
I cried too moletrap....i cried too
rabidbeavir 2 years ago 2
lol @ bisu face
9sinnerYTB 2 years ago 3
haha moletrap you must have been really shocked to have made this video...
honestly i think jaedong just didn't prepare, i mean, OSL & Golden Mouse > MSL anyday.
flyskyairflair 2 years ago
perhaps he didnt prepare, but it's still Jaedong, ZvZ and a Bo5... lack of preparation alone doesnt cut it, especially when he faced Effort, Hyuk and Orion in Proleague(all Zergs) and at least the matches against Effort should have been expected... not to mention that in the OSL finals he was bound to get a Zerg(either Type-B or Yellow[arnc]) and that his ZvZ is his *strongest* matchup in the first place...
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago
yeah hyuk owned him a wile ago.
SAOSIN987 2 years ago 2
lol'd at bisu towards the end ^_^
TerjeSC 2 years ago
Anyone know that piano piece? How classy, San Diego!
Adam67890 2 years ago
yay 3rd comment
MEOWGONEWILD 2 years ago
aww
you got owned!
OmGiTzMeH916 2 years ago
moletrap Oversky crush!
Influenza91 2 years ago