i hate when people compare their old world macintoshes to EFI or BIOS based machines.
The brilliant engineering of the macintosh ROM was the reason the SE is faster. Basically all the APIs are in ROM, which makes the machine blazing fast. IIRC, the first version of the system and finder were under 40k in size.
Good observation. I replaced the original disk a few years ago with a replacement (original disk failed after only 20 years... piece of junk!) The replacement disk didn't seem to have a connector for the activity indicator.
20 years is pretty good for a hard drive. I learned it's good to have a spare SE for parts. I believe the 20 and 40 mb drives had the activity light connector. The later Macs didn't come with that option.
@zeleftikam If you use Norton disk utility you can get an extension that will give you a little blinking hard drive by your finder. Or just listen to the awesome SCSI HDD loading sounds. When my macbook is on I never have any idea when the disk is running, its silent. Also if you use your macbook at a desk and take the battery out, the cooling fan will almost never come on. The battery seems to be the only thing that makes the fans come on. Youtube all day with a silent macbook, try it out
The reason is that the older computers hardely have anything to load. That hard drive was probably less than one gigabite, maybe a few megs. So while the new mac may seem slower, it is actually faster because it is able to load a much larger amount of data in a short time period.
Atari ST can beat 40 seconds easily, but that's because it has the OS in ROM. Nonetheless, I am a big fan of the Mac SE/30. Fantasticly looking machine. The laptopt on the right looks cheesy compared with the Mac SE/30, at least to my taste. Since I grew up in the 80's, most of the things from the 80's look cool to me, sincy my taste had developed at that time. Alright, I am old. Sorry, can't do anything about it.
what is the point of all this? Is it comparing "new and fast" to old equipment that is not bogged down with bloatware?
mdolivetti 6 months ago
That MacBook is slow, I've got G4 machines that startup faster. The boot has been altered with that colored Apple logo so I'm not surprised.
CharlesP2009 8 months ago
Even my bargain-basement HP laptop beats your Apple, and it was built the same year!
talldude123 1 year ago
LOL the lower spec apple computer won the more advanced model.
oliver18754 1 year ago
Looks like the Mac SE won so am going to have to buy that instead of the macbook who needs 2Ghz when you have 8 MHz XD
youngswag803 1 year ago
SE: doo-doo-doo-doooo dooo-dooo-dooo-doooooo doooo-doooo-doooo-doooooooo (sad mac)
hyperhippy92 1 year ago
I have an se sitt'n right next to me. Im suprised that they have faster startup than computers today. They work great
TheKorgboy99 1 year ago
i hate when people compare their old world macintoshes to EFI or BIOS based machines.
The brilliant engineering of the macintosh ROM was the reason the SE is faster. Basically all the APIs are in ROM, which makes the machine blazing fast. IIRC, the first version of the system and finder were under 40k in size.
bretwashere 1 year ago
I should try this with mac classic and classic II Since I have macbook 06 model
910364 1 year ago
left one pwns all
yvaaar 1 year ago
Did something happen with the HDD light for the SE?
rockinstlouis 1 year ago
Good observation. I replaced the original disk a few years ago with a replacement (original disk failed after only 20 years... piece of junk!) The replacement disk didn't seem to have a connector for the activity indicator.
zeleftikam 1 year ago
20 years is pretty good for a hard drive. I learned it's good to have a spare SE for parts. I believe the 20 and 40 mb drives had the activity light connector. The later Macs didn't come with that option.
rockinstlouis 1 year ago
@zeleftikam If you use Norton disk utility you can get an extension that will give you a little blinking hard drive by your finder. Or just listen to the awesome SCSI HDD loading sounds. When my macbook is on I never have any idea when the disk is running, its silent. Also if you use your macbook at a desk and take the battery out, the cooling fan will almost never come on. The battery seems to be the only thing that makes the fans come on. Youtube all day with a silent macbook, try it out
Bikeman1010 1 year ago
You fail with your macbook...
krikkie1 1 year ago
Google BootXChanger. It'll change your boot screen.
platnicat 2 years ago
how do you put the multicolor apple on the start of your macbook 2007? I want to put it on mine!!
RULO86 2 years ago
holy Sh@# 2000MHZ
theanthony345 2 years ago
^^ How you change your boot screen??
TheNameIsNald 2 years ago
8mhz completely and utterly PWNING 2000mhz! hahahaha!!!
ThisIs2009 2 years ago
I may be a macbook owner but still why does it seem the newer computers are lower than the old ones?
areahighone 2 years ago 3
Its because of all the big space requirments for the new macs and big applications it has to load
SuperHaxzor 2 years ago
okay thank you, make sense to me
areahighone 2 years ago
The reason is that the older computers hardely have anything to load. That hard drive was probably less than one gigabite, maybe a few megs. So while the new mac may seem slower, it is actually faster because it is able to load a much larger amount of data in a short time period.
ctuan13 2 years ago
Newer programs and computers have to think more so we can think less... and we all love pretty interfaces...
Weo510 2 years ago
@areahighone cuz they have more software and more complex kernel systems to load, i guess.
SquickenXAndEft 2 years ago
That is the sound of the switch on the back of the SE.
zeleftikam 2 years ago
well you macbook i very slow...
min boots in around 20 sek ...
andi030 2 years ago 2
My SE is faster than that. It boots in 15.
VaderNES 2 years ago
Actually im not surprised.
keepmacin 2 years ago
Atari ST can beat 40 seconds easily, but that's because it has the OS in ROM. Nonetheless, I am a big fan of the Mac SE/30. Fantasticly looking machine. The laptopt on the right looks cheesy compared with the Mac SE/30, at least to my taste. Since I grew up in the 80's, most of the things from the 80's look cool to me, sincy my taste had developed at that time. Alright, I am old. Sorry, can't do anything about it.
dvamateur 2 years ago
Heck yes.
zeleftikam 2 years ago
@dvamateur 40 seconds? My Macintosh SE can do 20, or even less on good days.
VaderNES 1 year ago
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Macs suck
win95sux 2 years ago
Windows Swallow!
Seyahhsod 2 years ago 6
LMFAO That is the best comeback ever LOL.
xGSWxST3ALTHx 2 years ago 10
Thanks toots!
Seyahhsod 2 years ago
Long Live Macintosh! :D
Harwood12productions 2 years ago
gotta love the compact mac's AIO design...
poopskinTheLiar 3 years ago
8 Mhz? thats quite poor ^^
Paschu00 3 years ago
how did you change the Apple logo on the Macbook?
benny21293 3 years ago
Google "Bootxchanger"
zeleftikam 3 years ago
thx
benny21293 3 years ago
rather pointless comparison imho
mrlovespread2006 3 years ago