Very touching! I saw your video a few months ago, & now I'm seeing it again. I love your message! I have a video "YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT!!" We all have a dream!!
yea Socialism and Capitalism exist that's why you see the U.S is 14 trillion in debt. capital is for those that earn it. Gov. does not, they take what they have not earned and give it to whomever is is "connected" for politicol favors. that was 2007, so Im sure they pay a higher percentage by now. The bottom 50% individuals receive more subsidies. You want to cut Spending? we can start by implementing a flat tax for everyone who earns at least $1.get rid of the IRS, and let people keep their $
@jdog420spaz tell me, did all the rich people earn their money? If you think so, you have been lied to somewhere along the line. Rich people get their money by taking it from the poor. Also, not all socialists are marxist. Thats like saying all Americans are in the KKK or all muslims are terrorists. I hate marxist beliefs, but I believe one day, in the far future, a socialistic democracy is necessary. As for now, we are stuck being stomped on by the rich, like in every other country on Earth.
@monkeylx1 the socialist democracy is already here. think of your dollar as a vote. vote with whom you trust. Yes some rich people are thieves, but that I am sure it is a minority. What is your definition of rich? Bill Gates is rich did he stomp on the poor by giving them a cpu at a relatively low price? And yes Ive been lied to, but Im smart enough to understand economics. Progressive ideology always needs a victim.
@jdog420spaz Ok, lets do an experiment. Next time someone steals your wallet, don't go to the police. Next time your house catches fire, don't call the fire department. Homeschool all children you have. Don't drive on any public roads. Don't use any tap water. Never flush your toilet or take a shower. Don't fly commercial or otherwise. Don't leave the country and expect to be let back in, passport or not. Whenver you get tired of living this way, admit that gov. does earn it's taxes.
@LibzRule Most of those are local taxes. Progressives have the inability to tell the difference between local, state and federal responsibilities. And besides I believe in "street" justice. There are areas that government fails at in the name of civility, and need to be dealt with by other means. IE child molestors.
Um, how does a new tax policy equate to less spending? You proposed a plan for less revenue, not less spending.
Worse, the IRS is not a government agency, it is private and therefore not part of the Federal budget. Eliminating it woudn't cut spending by a penny.
I do agree, however, that it should be cut, along with the Federal Reserve System, the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, two thirds of the military, farm subsidies and corporate welfare. That's a spending cut!
@LibzRule IRS is a GSE, it is not private sector. It uses gov. force to impose gov. policy. It is funded by taxpayer dollar. It is a progressive who ratified the Federal reserve and IRS, Wilson, by amendment. for the progressive NWO. Progressives FDR and Johnson, ushered in nanny state policies and other forms of socialism that are killing us now. and now we have another in Obama. Now something for you to chew on. Which type of liberal are you? All liberals are not created equal.
@LibzRule All of this comes down to one thing, are we gonna work together on fixing things, or blame everyone else for shit. If we are gonna get our shit together we have to be honest about which policies work and which don't. Regardless of popularity. By all means we have had our downfalls, there is not one country in the world that has all the answers. Humanity itself is its own worst enemy. which gets back to the original point. Satan the great liberator? I don't think so
@LibzRule "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer." Saul Alinsky - Communist
As well they should. They reap the most benefit from the system, so they should pay the most.
Look, the American form of corporatism/capitalism is structured to keep the capitalists wealthy using kickbacks and business-friendly legislation. It's a rigged system. Do you honestly think that even Bill Gates would have been so successful if not for the help of his Uncle Sam? He got more, so he should pay more. Even Warren Buffet agrees the wealthy should pay more.
@LibzRule I dont believe in corporate welfare either. I do know however that fed government does not produce it simply takes, to redistribute to whom is "connected". Term limits will help that. And Yes any company or person who delivers a good product at a good price generally will succeed. sure the system has its riggings, why do you think they like Big gov.? easy to cover their asses
@LibzRule Problem with Hamas is they have no problem killing said Palestines when they do not act according to Hamas' rule. It is Islam. there will never be peace in the middle east until the militant Islamist stop trying to erradicate non-islams, or until all Jews are dead. Now To get into specific details Palestine has never been a state, the Jews have more right to that land then the Palestines.
And from Israels actions, we are led to believe that they wish to erradicate the Palestinians.
Of course, Palestine isn't technically a state. We won't allow that because our Israeli handlers don't want it. But if it isn't a state, how can it be a democracy?
I fail to see how the Jews have more right to the land. Yes, the European powers (plus America) got involved (out of guilt) in the area in the early 60s, and drew some lines on a map, but the arabs were there long before.
@LibzRule If Hitler didnt steal the Aryan ideology from what is now called Iran, maybe the Jews wouldn't of need a homeland. the reason Jews were slaughtered is because they represented Capitalism. "Work will set you free". "workers of the world unite", sorry I dont work for free unless I choose to. And no Im not Jewish. Why didn't another arab country take the Pal.? And besides that shit goes back to the Bible. thats why marxist communist want to eliminate religion. Worship Man, not a god
By that logic, France and China should require that the U.S. give back the entire Midwest to the Native Americans for slaughtering millions of them. The U.S. should also give back the Southwest to Mexico, since it slaughtered millions of them.
What do the Mexians, Native Americans and Palestinians have in common? They have land that the U.S. wanted. Period.
Besides, the biblical argument only holds if you believe in the bible.
@LibzRule Mexico was not a country. By those standards we should own France and Britain and everyone else we bailed out by defeating Hitler. China? theat is the poster child of human rights? require us? And Sorry again you cannot look at history by todays standards. All nations, and most peoples engaged in such activities. World peace is a facade, Until all humans are extinct, there will never be world peace. And even then animals will continue to feed on one another. Peace is not natural.
(INTRO) Captain America and his side-kick, Media, launch off another effort to mind control its people! (Action music plays while they fly over and spot a war protest on the streets.) "Media, use 'words of freedom and democracy'"! exclaimed Captain America. (A beam of hypnotic words emits from Media's mouth.) "We are sorry, Captain America. We will never doubt your perfect, infallible intentions again!" "That's okay, and remember: violence and hate is good!" (Action music plays again.) (OUTRO)
While you aren't far off, remember that there are people within the media that do the job of the Fourth Estate unflinchingly and without bias. Unfortunately, we just came off of 8 years of their absence.
Also remember that the only way this country works is to have frequent, intelligent debates on the issues by an informed citizenry. We cannot put 100% of the blame on the media if we aren't willing to inform ourselves.
@LibzRule "the only way this country works is to have frequent, intelligent debates on the issues by an informed citizenry" I agree to most of what you're saying, except this. If the informed citizenry is congress, which I am assuming it is, they are the ones who are messing this world up every day by waging wars, making the rich richer/poor poorer, and blowing up homes of countries they don't like.
We MUST be the informed citizenry. Remember, a true democracy means EVERYONE votes, not just a select few. The only way for "one person, one vote" to make any difference is that we need to teach ourselves about the issues of the day. That way, all the emotional and misleading arguements will be ineffective and we will have policy that we need and want.
Congress (both parties) is much to blam in this. They chase after money, not OUR hapiness.
@LibzRule Thing is, I'm sure they will do anything in their power to keep us from being educated enough to make the right decisions. However I am surprised I came across an intelligent American.
That is precisely the function of our "broken" education system. It is actually working perfectly. It is designed to condition us against critical thinking and to become cookie-cutter consumers. As 9 to 5 employees and consumers, we have little time to question why the "American Dream" WILL NEVER come true for us. We are left to blame ourselves and not the system. Capitalism feeds off of economic disparity.
If I may paraphrase Michael Moore, "Horatio Algers MUST DIE!"
@LibzRule Our Broken Education system? Well we can agree on some things there. Locally is based of of socialist methods of funding. Colleges are mostly run by the "left". Geez wonder why Keynesian economics are for some reason popular. As far as the American Dream, it is obtainable. Not a gaurantee. With some smarts, good networking (family, friends, etc.) and a some luck it can be achieved. Socialism needs capitalism, not the other way around.Now I dont want to hijack juanppatino's thread
The problem with education in this country is NOT the funding, but the aim. The system seeks to produce addled consumers rather that inspired thinkers or innovaters. The current system works brilliantly at what it is supposed to do, but that is not educate the children.
Have you even been to college. I have off and on for 9 years and never had a teacher discuss politics with me.
@LibzRule Took graphic design for a bit. But if you don't think politics aren't pushed on students, well I don't know who you haven't been talking too. It happens all the time and usually depends on what classes you go to and said "professors". When people have influence to where their money goes and to what they get for the money you will find the school system will change. Why do you think most progressives are against school vouchers? School system in my area good. parenting is the key
But that's the point. Not all professors are political, so you can't say that the whole university is either.
Again, you are missing the point. Money is not the answer. The system is working perfectly well as it is. What needs to change is not financial, it is the purpose. We need to go back to the drawing board and ask ourselves what exactly we want for our children. Is it to be able to answer multiple-choice questions of trivia? Or do we want to encourage them to think?
Also, good parenting is a start, but good parental INVOLVEMENT is better. Why do you think private schools tend to have (arguably) better results? The money??? NO! Some spend less per student than public. It is the parental involvement. Of course, the fact that they can choose who they admit helps a lot as well. BTW, we are against vouchers because the have never worked. They would simply leave too many children in bad areas with no resources.
Look, ask yourself one question. The education system in America has changed very little in the last 150 years. If it is so bad, why was it never fixed?
Our system takes after the system the Prussians used at the height of their power. Their system was designed to "teach" the young men what the army needed them to know and nothing else.
Our version doesn't just serve the military, but our corporatist masters and bankers, who want blind, non-questioning consumers who will spend.
@LibzRule well with many attempts from big govenment to "fix" it has not worked. If me move to a barter system how will the feds tax us to cover our socialist programs? Dude Im in ohio vouchers work here, they are not liked because they take money out of the public school system. Supers. making $200k-$500k, plus no thanks. Progressives don't like people to make their own choices, pure and simple. and is money, the re-distribion of wealth.
@LibzRule As far as energy goes, petroleum products can only be supplemented, they will only supplanted when necessary. Go back to the days of horse and buggy? dont think so, I love my 400 hp Subaru. No private ownership? do you have an open kitchen, that anyone can come in and make a meal? what about those who do not want to contribute? sorry sounds alot like communism to me. No thanks only 2 classes there. the ruling class, and everyone else. Some will eat very good, others will get crumbs
I don't think we are hijacking the OPs thread. In fact, it is a tribute to democracy that we can disagree and debate without threat of personaly safety. That was the point of his video. His mom was killed because the ruling junta thought she was politically subversive.
Now, I think you will find millions of smart, inventive Americans who could network and live near the poverty line. So capitalism = luck ?
Socialism may or may not need capitalism, but we don't need either!
@LibzRule To succeed yes you do need some luck. Some people believe that persistence and hard work lead to said "luck". so if we don't need either, what is your proposed ideal society? because we all now there are definitions for everything, and many definitions have been perverted.
If you must name everything, I believe and support a resource-based, non-monetary economy. I stipulate that on any level, we have now or can easily create enough food, shelter and energy so that no human being need suffer from homelessness, starvation or even malnutrition. A combination of geothermal, tidal, solar and wind energy would mean never burning another drop of oil or spending another petrodollar. Second, without private ownership of land, we would be free to build
housing for all who need it. Lastly, acknowledging the fact that we waste Billions of dollars in subsidies to farmers to NOT grow crops, we have enough land and resources to feed the world.
Once these three necessities are no longer a problem, people will be free to persue goals that lead to increased sense of community.
This economic system is much better than either socialism or capitalism.
@DerangederX Even if God wouldn't exist it would not do any damage to my argument... The argument was about Democracy not existing, but just being a big fat lie
The US Republic (Democracy) is the highest achievement by man in human history of government (by the people, for the people, of the people). Also by the same token it is the most corrupt idea man has come up with to rebel against the living God and deceive mankind.The Bible has always taught the will of man is the problem of sin, which brings death.Man cannot save. God chooses whom to save. The Bible Declares May21,2011 is Judgment Day. Not for everyone to see,but will be judged.wwwWeCanKnowCOM
@LibzRule>Jer 13:25 This is thy lot, the portion of thy measures from me, saith the LORD; because thou hast forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood. 2012 IS FROM MAN.Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD;Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.May 21, 2011 IS FROM the BIBLE>For the vision is yet for an appointed time,but at the end it shall speak, and not lie:though it tarry, wait for it;because it will surely come,it will not tarry.Hab2:3
@LibzRule "We cannot have freedom without freedom from god." thats the same arguement Satan worshipers and modern liberal/progressive movement, both for different reasons
@jdog420spaz Whats wrong with progressive movements? Are you a rich person who doesn't want to lose any power? A government official who doesn't want to lose power? Or do you just like being taken advantage of?
@monkeylx1 Well the problem with the progressive movement is that for whatever reason they believe that socialism ans capitalism can coexist in a sustainable manner. I am not rich. and as long as socialism is in this country Im quite sure I dont want to be. When In fact it is the rich who pay for more than their "fair" share. You should have noticed by now the progressives in power only want more power, and in the spirit of Marx, make it inescapable.
First, elements of socialism and capitalism DO exist in the economies of many nations in the world, including America. The question of whether America's economy is debatable, but not because of the socialist elements.
Second, I beg for you to provide some evidence that the rich pay more than their fair share, especially in the face of an income disparity that is widenning.
Third, you seem to be forgetting the many conservatives that have sought more power. Cheney for one?
Look, if you aren't going to put any thought into your arguement, I'm not going to waste precious time on you. Good day.
I leave you with this:
The only belief we as humans need is the belief in each other and ourselves. What we are lacking in this century is a sense of community, a sense of our collective humanity. I think that the psuedo-religious have robbed us of our ability to empathize with our fellow man.
@LibzRule "The only belief we as humans need is the belief in each other and ourselves." As in Marxist Communism right? M.C that wants to eliminate religion and personal property, etc. There are in fact many teachings in Christianities version of god that recommend we take care of our fellow man as well as many others. You lose the community when as progressive liberals believe in Central Planning. The intent of the Constitution was to limit central planning. Big government is the enemy
I find it strange that so many people who CLAIM to be christian conveniently forget that by today's standards, Jesus was a socialist. They never seem to reconcile that fact.
Considering the size of the American Federal government, do you think the Constitution has done a good job limiting central planning?
True, big government is the enemy. We should start by slashing the defense department by 60%. We would still be spending double what other nations spend. Also kill OFBI.
@LibzRule Im not christian, but I believe the 10 commandments work for a civil society. But Jesus a socialist, I doubt it. If he existed, He wouldn't of forced his beliefs on others by force or violence. If the Constitution wasn't perverted by progressives, it would be working for us just fine.18 enumerated powers is all the Fed should get as originally scribed. Ive heard as much as 2/3 of Fed Spending is unconstitutional. National Defense is one of the enumerated powers.
@ LibzRule I have lived in many socialist countries and you are wrong I know exactly what it does , it destroys work ethic. Perfect example is Cuba , which even the paragon of socialism Castro admitted that socialism doesnt work. Castro even admitted that his country has zero work ethic. Also America has destroyed its workforce with terrible trade deals, but you dont want to talk about those since socialists like Carter, Clinton , and The Bush family sold this country out.
I can talk about trade agreements, but they aren't the entire problem. You alluded to 1913, the year the Fed was created (illegally?). That would be a better discussion to have if what you yearn for is the "good old days" of laissez-faire capitalism.
Also, I never claimed that socialism is perfect or even the solution. However, I wonder if you have lived in Sweden, Germany or Japan. All have more socialist programs than we do and have better economies. Cuba is a straw man.
@sgtwalker64 ugh, I hate it when people cast aside socialism because it has never succeeded. I know it can't work these days, any intelligent person knows that. But if the majority of people learn to become altruistic, it will be the only solution, otherwise all the altruistic people will be run by madmen. And with technology taking all the jobs, in 500 years everything will be automated. Not many jobs will be available, so in order for people to live they will need a minimum income.
A Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for lunch. In a Republic, there's a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
Democracy is not defined as "the right of life". All humans are born with a God-given/nature-given right to their lives, if you believe in the views of the American founding fathers. Government can't grant or take away that right. It can only protect or violate that right.
A Republic with a constitution that protects individuals from the wims of the mob is key.
@BRYAN351 Don't forget all humans' unalienable rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as Thomas Jefferson put it, interchangeable with "property", in that things you make or purchase or trade are acquired because you want or need them...in the pursuit of happiness. And don't forget that it's impossible for any government to proactively protect any of these rights, but are only able to provide means of justice when these rights are broken. It is the individuals' responsibility to...
@BRYAN351 ...protect their own rights. The justice system is a handy deterrent against violating another person's rights, of course. The idea that a government would restrict a person's means of protecting their life, liberty, and property is pretty preposterous and incompatible with the idea of rights to begin with. Take England's handgun ban for instance, whereas in the US "castle doctrines" and concealed carry laws have gotten much attention recently and are becoming very popular indeed.
I think all the arguments in the comments page miss the point. We could have a complete democracy but it wouldn't matter if we still had no respect for life. We kill thousands of people to get oil. We take away people's home's to make plantations. We rarely consider the conditions the choices we make give to other people. If this continues, there will always be something downtrodden and voiceless.
@llAmyGll Exactly... Still it is a dream that everyone would love...
God made the humans to have NO human leader, alas greedy people decided to not listen to God and take the faith of others making them nothing but sheep who follow and die when the "leaders" want..
It is a dream, that we could never achive cause of the greed and evilness of others, combined with the stupidity and arrogance of the "sheep"
@ LibzRule Its not semantics when its truth . Thats typical of those that live in the paradigm they live in gray areas. I want the countries our founders established not the crap the 2 parties have given us. NAFTA,GAT ect have ruined the American economy and both parties are responsible for that. I can care less about Europe or any other country America needs to get its own house clean and stop worrying about the Globalist crap. Again Socialism has failed Castro even admits it.
First, I only mentioned other countries because you ASSumed that I hadn't seen enough of the world.
Second, if you think that trade agreements are the sole thing wrong with America, you are very late to the game.
Third, it is you who seems trapped in the Socialist vs. Capitalist paradigm, not I. You don't even seem to know very much about Socialism. Globalization via trade agreements is NOT a socialist concept.
Fourth, I don't want what our FFs left us, I want much better.
@LibzRule Wrong I dont live in a left vs right paradigm . Thats what is destroying America. I want America to go back to its founding principles, Also I have been in many socialist countries and have seen the disaster they are. And this country hasnt lived under capitalism since 1913. You people that live in these paradigm world views are so controlled by lies. You all need to get you butts off you comfy couches and see the world. Trade agreements are the reason for our unsustainabilty .
Ok, if we are going to play the semantics game, we do not live in a capitalist society. We are a corporatist nation, ie. a fascism. By refering to 1913, do you mean the creation of the Fed, the most unholy of demons? Then yes, you are correct, although the concept of the central bank had been around in Europe for centuries. Trade agreements are just one branch of the tree of corporatism.
But Adam Smith style capitalism isn't the solution either.
@carlosyhector We are America we are a country that can self sustain ourselves. Its socialists like you that have ruined this once great nation. We went from a hard working , moral, and self sustaining society , to a lying, murdering, handout society. Does it sound familiar Carlos ? America has become Nazi Germany.We American need to take it back from the Nazi's and arrest and hang you all for the traitors you are. Ive seen men and women die for your lies, LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN !!!!!!!
Methinks you wouldn't know a true socialist if he kicked you in the balls.
And BTW, America could never and will never sustain itself. At the very least, we will never be able to sustain ourselves in the future, Capitalism guarantees the necessity of finding bigger markets of both consumers and workers.
We DO need to take America back from the current-day Nazis: the bankers, the CEOs, the MIC, Pharma, etc. and give it back to the people.
In English, there is no such thing as the right OF life, it is a wrong translation, you can either say the right to life, or the right life. I'm pretty sure you mean the former.
America is not a democracy we're a Constitutional Republic. We use democracy to elect our leaders, then our leaders use democracy to make legislation and policy but that legislation and policy CANNOT violate the Constitution. In pure democracy 51% of the population can vote to rape and murder you.
Yea, just becuase it's democratic doesn't mean it's free. There are no truly free countries in the world, and no one better say the USA is free becuase the USA has more incarcerated than any other nation.
@carlosyhector Go out into public screaming "Profanities" or smoke some marijuana or organize a rally without permission in the USA and you will find very quickly that it's not a "Free" nation. As I said before there are no free nations.
He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither-Benjamin Franklin
@juanppatino No no... I mean that this has anything to do with democracy. Its just some random story with the worlds "Democracy is Freedom" in the end.
@arnarfreyrdagsson just because you don't want something to be true doesn't mean isn't-- saying that people are dumb and the video is shit doesn't stop it from being something that happens to people, it just makes you stupid sounding and ignorant.
Democracy is fail. It will always crumble into oligarchy. Don't get me wrong, the people are ALWAYS the ones that should have the power... but in a democracy there is feeble individual justice. People's judgment can be manipulated. Only a republic ever has any real chance of surviving. ONLY a republic.
Democracy has never ever worked its just gotten people killed, If you did one bit of research you would learn that but you live in that left-right paradigm and you believe what those liars tell you. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, and the Roman Empire all claimed to be democracies. You the self centered one that would believe in a self centered ideology that have had more people murdered then any ever. God Bless you and I will Pray the Lord opens your eyes .
@exra82 the other lands too, i saw a top 10 of weapon traders in 2003 list on school today (that made me write this comment), where Amerika was on 1, but France was somewhere in the 5, 4 or 3 place and Dutchland in the 7 or 8 place.
Democracy is a terrible form of government and has lead too over 200 million deaths world wide. The 210 people that voted like for this video are lost little sheeple. You can have you democracy socialism crap , I want the Representative Republic that our founders established back, To you so called Americans that want democracy please move out of America so we can have our country back.
Democracy is a terrible form of government and has lead too over 200 million deaths world wide. The 210 people that voted like for this video are lost little sheeple. You can have you democracy socialism crap , I want the Representative Republic that our founders established back, To you so called Americans that want democracy please move out of America so we can have our country back.
Las imágenes son buenas pero el contenido es dudoso, no se sabe si es la guerrilla, la delicuencia, o los paras, por lo tanto es infame y calumnia a toda Colombia. No me gusta, si se aclara quien es ok.
Sorry Juan, but "democracy" is an awful form of government. Majority rule is very dangerous with respect to individual freedom and rights, because there is no limit to what majority rule can decide. Sure, you can have laws, but if the majority of the people decides to ignore the laws and take your kids from you then what good are the laws? Democracy is very dangerous and that's why the US has a republic, not a democracy.
Watch the video The American Form of Government for a good explanation.
@keefgtp in theory the US is a democracy in that the people vote, but instead its for officials who make the choices for them. i agree that a direct democracy is dangerous and the progressive movement in america is trying to create a direct democracy that is mostly socialist. how the mightly are falling.
@nhuston528 No, not in theory at all. The US system is a republic by design, look up the definition of "republic". The video I mentioned explained that the word "democracy" doesn't even appear in any founding documents of the Federal or State governments. Historically, troubled governments always dissolve into an oligarchy, which is rule by a powerful few. And then they fail completely. It's a fact proven over thousands of years of human history but many people can't be bothered to care.
@keefgtp Guess what, Colombia is also a republic, and a great deal of people gets past the rules, like in any other government in the world, but far from the majority, statistically speaking. Democracy is not just a form of government, and would a republic exist without it?
@Perszeusz Democracy is defined specifically as a form of government, that's what the word means. But it's only a temporary form of government at that. It's unsustainable because there is no limit to "government" power - the government being the people at large. In a republic the government is separate from the people but representative of the people, and has limits on what powers it may have. Very few powers in the US's case, but sadly most people don't care so the government runs rampant.
@keefgtp Democracy, derived from Latin "Democratia", and ultimately from Greek dēmokratia (dēmos=people, kratia=rule), or "rule of the people", of the majority, in this context used to refer to the right to vote and the equality (or not) of all human beings within a state.
lo que es el estatuto político de su país? Una vez vi "dont tell my mother Columbia" y fue horrible. para luchar por la verdadera democracia debemos unirnos con independencia de nuestros países, razas, religión y color.
It means that THE PEOPLE have the power.. but they don't they just vote someone who does things that the people don't want.
For democracy to exist it would be necesary that there would be NO learers NO presidents, NO parlament, but the people to take the decisions that would affect the country, like make a huge refferendum and then all the decision to be applied also by the people..
That is Democracy... but Democracy never existed,never will
@jerhinus True democracy is not only unworkable but is also a slow sytem and wouldn't be good.. its a great idea though.. but unless people were perfect the system would suck
but hey if people were perfect any government would work.. like communism or even a moarchy
@FatelShot13 And by saying that you proove to yourself and to everyone else here that the thing that this "commercial" promotes is NOT democracy, couse democracy does not exist..Instead it is just a lie.. a lie for what?..
@jerhinus NO matter what anyone does (any government power), They will not be able to truly control the choices of the people. Thugs, alcoholics, drug addicts, whores etc. These choices most of the people make are based solely on their own lives, Not the Government.... If you dislike democracy so much go to a country with a dictator who controls your every move... Or go to a place where there is no government.... tell me how that works out.
@TAVIEMAYBE I'd gladly do it if I had the possibilityes right now..
Look at China.. they got a dictator and they have NO economical crysis, NO thugs and other gang shit, Advanced technology, AWESOME comfort...
Look at the Democracy countryes.. Polluation,thugs,stupid people doing stupid stuff(In America a woman sued a dog or an elephant) I never heard that crazy shit in countryes in which democracy doesn't exist
@TeamshakeNbake In china the Democracy is for the fucked people who control the government. You have no chance to vote or be voted, except your parents works in the government . Almost all of the people haven't see a ballot ticket in their whole lives. The media is controlled by the gov. All the news you can get is the gov is very busy and so kind. None of the bad news can be reported. In china ,all my people want to say is "fuck the china communist party"!
@jerhinus If we had a high consul, some elected by the people and some elders experienced or highly respected volunteers who together made decisions for the people, for the interest of that people and for the benefit for the people.
In almost every nation in the world, in these so called high consul (parliament/ ruling government), they do what is in best interest for them self and have hidden agenda. Always about money and power.
@WorstCommenter2008 First of all Asshole.. I do not live in the U.S. second of all I am not geting beaten, I beat the shit out of stuff if it is needed..
3rd Thing is that it is NOT me who has fights but my parents,who actually fight about the fucking cousin who actually is supposed to eat at the school mess hall but that damn mess hall ain't opening or he ain't going and he keeps coming here for food.. I don't give a fuck about that but I am disturbed that I keep hearing yells .
@jerhinus We have power! We can vote, we have our rights! We can say what we want. For me it's freedom. If there will be no president, no parliament then it will be anarchy.
@BlaqPainTV If anarchy means that i will define my life n my opinion will matter to the world as much as everyone's else then 'anarchy' i want...
N sidenote.. Of course people have power... We just don't use it.. Some elite will always shape your opinion through media, propaganda or any type of violence (physical, mental, psychological)
@jerhinus Democracy was created back about 2.500 years in ancient Athens. Back then Demos (The People) had the power to elect or blackball anyone who was eligible to be voted again coming from the People himself. Back then nobility, wealth, political power had no effect over anyone's mind. Therefore 600-500 B.C was Athens Classical(or Gold) Century. But alas this prosperity couldn't long any longer due to may reasons.... That is my quote to your comment my friend: Democracy Did Exist.
@jerhinus democracy is a idea which has various systems that use it. You are talking about direct democracy, when people themselves can vote . In the modern world we have chosen for a democracy with representatives. The idea is that these people whom we elect are there to vote in our place. Normally they will cast their vote the same as you would. The reason being that you choose them because of their idea being the same as yours. Anyone saying democracy fails should show me something better.
@jerhinus that's a direct democracy. there are other forms of democracies, like a representative democracy, or a discursive democracy. please don't say things like "democracy never existed, never will" without knowing the different types that do in fact exist.
if we had a true democracy many more innocent people would have died im sure as a result of 9/11... the republic in america is put into position to stop certain pulses and sways of the public position. you get a bunch of dumb uninformed angry people together and the whole world would be blown the fuck up
@bass109 the church doesnt exactly portray jesus' teachings. Im assuming your catholic as i was raised since you do call it church. Why should people come back to an institution that covers up sick and twisted crimes such as child molestation. You want me back in church... then prosecute these sick people and their leadership.
Amazing what a war child in Colombia can teach us about respect for life, and yet we still debate over abortion....incredible, and a very good submission. Congratulations are in order for turning such a sad event into a positive contribution!
Very good ! I saw you on the Today show and was like wow a fellow Colombian! Congrats and how long are you in the Area? I live near NYC maybe we can chat.
Juan Pablo quiero felicitarte, te vi esta manana en el Today show, que orgullo ver a un colombianito sacar la cara por todos, tan joven y tan talentoso :) Sigue triunfando nunca desistas :)
Juan Pablo quiero felicitarte, te vi esta manana en el Today show, que orgullo ver a un colombianito sacar la cara por todos, tan joven y tan talentoso :) Sigue triunfando nunca desistas :)
@jennytox29 Muchas gracias por tu comentario en realidad me gustaría contar con tu apoyo para la difusión de este mensaje, muchas gracias. Facebook: Juan Pablo Patino
Very touching! I saw your video a few months ago, & now I'm seeing it again. I love your message! I have a video "YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT!!" We all have a dream!!
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Democracy is MOB rule. Nothing more and nothing less. You wanna be ruled by a mob? Carefull what you wish for, it may come true.
bugsz1 1 year ago
yea Socialism and Capitalism exist that's why you see the U.S is 14 trillion in debt. capital is for those that earn it. Gov. does not, they take what they have not earned and give it to whomever is is "connected" for politicol favors. that was 2007, so Im sure they pay a higher percentage by now. The bottom 50% individuals receive more subsidies. You want to cut Spending? we can start by implementing a flat tax for everyone who earns at least $1.get rid of the IRS, and let people keep their $
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz tell me, did all the rich people earn their money? If you think so, you have been lied to somewhere along the line. Rich people get their money by taking it from the poor. Also, not all socialists are marxist. Thats like saying all Americans are in the KKK or all muslims are terrorists. I hate marxist beliefs, but I believe one day, in the far future, a socialistic democracy is necessary. As for now, we are stuck being stomped on by the rich, like in every other country on Earth.
monkeylx1 1 year ago
@monkeylx1 the socialist democracy is already here. think of your dollar as a vote. vote with whom you trust. Yes some rich people are thieves, but that I am sure it is a minority. What is your definition of rich? Bill Gates is rich did he stomp on the poor by giving them a cpu at a relatively low price? And yes Ive been lied to, but Im smart enough to understand economics. Progressive ideology always needs a victim.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Most of those are local taxes. Progressives have the inability to tell the difference between local, state and federal responsibilities. And besides I believe in "street" justice. There are areas that government fails at in the name of civility, and need to be dealt with by other means. IE child molestors.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
Um, how does a new tax policy equate to less spending? You proposed a plan for less revenue, not less spending.
Worse, the IRS is not a government agency, it is private and therefore not part of the Federal budget. Eliminating it woudn't cut spending by a penny.
I do agree, however, that it should be cut, along with the Federal Reserve System, the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, two thirds of the military, farm subsidies and corporate welfare. That's a spending cut!
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule IRS is a GSE, it is not private sector. It uses gov. force to impose gov. policy. It is funded by taxpayer dollar. It is a progressive who ratified the Federal reserve and IRS, Wilson, by amendment. for the progressive NWO. Progressives FDR and Johnson, ushered in nanny state policies and other forms of socialism that are killing us now. and now we have another in Obama. Now something for you to chew on. Which type of liberal are you? All liberals are not created equal.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@LibzRule All of this comes down to one thing, are we gonna work together on fixing things, or blame everyone else for shit. If we are gonna get our shit together we have to be honest about which policies work and which don't. Regardless of popularity. By all means we have had our downfalls, there is not one country in the world that has all the answers. Humanity itself is its own worst enemy. which gets back to the original point. Satan the great liberator? I don't think so
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@LibzRule "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer." Saul Alinsky - Communist
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
just google who pays the taxes at National Tax Payers union, youtube won't let me post the link
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
As well they should. They reap the most benefit from the system, so they should pay the most.
Look, the American form of corporatism/capitalism is structured to keep the capitalists wealthy using kickbacks and business-friendly legislation. It's a rigged system. Do you honestly think that even Bill Gates would have been so successful if not for the help of his Uncle Sam? He got more, so he should pay more. Even Warren Buffet agrees the wealthy should pay more.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule I dont believe in corporate welfare either. I do know however that fed government does not produce it simply takes, to redistribute to whom is "connected". Term limits will help that. And Yes any company or person who delivers a good product at a good price generally will succeed. sure the system has its riggings, why do you think they like Big gov.? easy to cover their asses
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
While democracy can be good, there are some pitfalls. Case in point Hamas in Palestine.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
The only thing wrong with Hamas of Palestine is that the U.S.A. keeps propping up the terrorist state of Israel financially and militarily.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Problem with Hamas is they have no problem killing said Palestines when they do not act according to Hamas' rule. It is Islam. there will never be peace in the middle east until the militant Islamist stop trying to erradicate non-islams, or until all Jews are dead. Now To get into specific details Palestine has never been a state, the Jews have more right to that land then the Palestines.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
And from Israels actions, we are led to believe that they wish to erradicate the Palestinians.
Of course, Palestine isn't technically a state. We won't allow that because our Israeli handlers don't want it. But if it isn't a state, how can it be a democracy?
I fail to see how the Jews have more right to the land. Yes, the European powers (plus America) got involved (out of guilt) in the area in the early 60s, and drew some lines on a map, but the arabs were there long before.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule If Hitler didnt steal the Aryan ideology from what is now called Iran, maybe the Jews wouldn't of need a homeland. the reason Jews were slaughtered is because they represented Capitalism. "Work will set you free". "workers of the world unite", sorry I dont work for free unless I choose to. And no Im not Jewish. Why didn't another arab country take the Pal.? And besides that shit goes back to the Bible. thats why marxist communist want to eliminate religion. Worship Man, not a god
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
As I said, out of guilt, not any legal reason.
By that logic, France and China should require that the U.S. give back the entire Midwest to the Native Americans for slaughtering millions of them. The U.S. should also give back the Southwest to Mexico, since it slaughtered millions of them.
What do the Mexians, Native Americans and Palestinians have in common? They have land that the U.S. wanted. Period.
Besides, the biblical argument only holds if you believe in the bible.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Mexico was not a country. By those standards we should own France and Britain and everyone else we bailed out by defeating Hitler. China? theat is the poster child of human rights? require us? And Sorry again you cannot look at history by todays standards. All nations, and most peoples engaged in such activities. World peace is a facade, Until all humans are extinct, there will never be world peace. And even then animals will continue to feed on one another. Peace is not natural.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
Reminds me of Che and his cronies. Fuck Che.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
(INTRO) Captain America and his side-kick, Media, launch off another effort to mind control its people! (Action music plays while they fly over and spot a war protest on the streets.) "Media, use 'words of freedom and democracy'"! exclaimed Captain America. (A beam of hypnotic words emits from Media's mouth.) "We are sorry, Captain America. We will never doubt your perfect, infallible intentions again!" "That's okay, and remember: violence and hate is good!" (Action music plays again.) (OUTRO)
monkeylx1 1 year ago
@monkeylx1
Paranoid much???
While you aren't far off, remember that there are people within the media that do the job of the Fourth Estate unflinchingly and without bias. Unfortunately, we just came off of 8 years of their absence.
Also remember that the only way this country works is to have frequent, intelligent debates on the issues by an informed citizenry. We cannot put 100% of the blame on the media if we aren't willing to inform ourselves.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule "the only way this country works is to have frequent, intelligent debates on the issues by an informed citizenry" I agree to most of what you're saying, except this. If the informed citizenry is congress, which I am assuming it is, they are the ones who are messing this world up every day by waging wars, making the rich richer/poor poorer, and blowing up homes of countries they don't like.
monkeylx1 1 year ago
@monkeylx1
No, no, no, NOT congress. US!
We MUST be the informed citizenry. Remember, a true democracy means EVERYONE votes, not just a select few. The only way for "one person, one vote" to make any difference is that we need to teach ourselves about the issues of the day. That way, all the emotional and misleading arguements will be ineffective and we will have policy that we need and want.
Congress (both parties) is much to blam in this. They chase after money, not OUR hapiness.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Thing is, I'm sure they will do anything in their power to keep us from being educated enough to make the right decisions. However I am surprised I came across an intelligent American.
monkeylx1 1 year ago
@monkeylx1
That is precisely the function of our "broken" education system. It is actually working perfectly. It is designed to condition us against critical thinking and to become cookie-cutter consumers. As 9 to 5 employees and consumers, we have little time to question why the "American Dream" WILL NEVER come true for us. We are left to blame ourselves and not the system. Capitalism feeds off of economic disparity.
If I may paraphrase Michael Moore, "Horatio Algers MUST DIE!"
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Our Broken Education system? Well we can agree on some things there. Locally is based of of socialist methods of funding. Colleges are mostly run by the "left". Geez wonder why Keynesian economics are for some reason popular. As far as the American Dream, it is obtainable. Not a gaurantee. With some smarts, good networking (family, friends, etc.) and a some luck it can be achieved. Socialism needs capitalism, not the other way around.Now I dont want to hijack juanppatino's thread
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
Sorry, I gues you didn't understand the sarcasm.
The problem with education in this country is NOT the funding, but the aim. The system seeks to produce addled consumers rather that inspired thinkers or innovaters. The current system works brilliantly at what it is supposed to do, but that is not educate the children.
Have you even been to college. I have off and on for 9 years and never had a teacher discuss politics with me.
Oh, and the American Dream never was possible.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Took graphic design for a bit. But if you don't think politics aren't pushed on students, well I don't know who you haven't been talking too. It happens all the time and usually depends on what classes you go to and said "professors". When people have influence to where their money goes and to what they get for the money you will find the school system will change. Why do you think most progressives are against school vouchers? School system in my area good. parenting is the key
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
But that's the point. Not all professors are political, so you can't say that the whole university is either.
Again, you are missing the point. Money is not the answer. The system is working perfectly well as it is. What needs to change is not financial, it is the purpose. We need to go back to the drawing board and ask ourselves what exactly we want for our children. Is it to be able to answer multiple-choice questions of trivia? Or do we want to encourage them to think?
LibzRule 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
Also, good parenting is a start, but good parental INVOLVEMENT is better. Why do you think private schools tend to have (arguably) better results? The money??? NO! Some spend less per student than public. It is the parental involvement. Of course, the fact that they can choose who they admit helps a lot as well. BTW, we are against vouchers because the have never worked. They would simply leave too many children in bad areas with no resources.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule
Look, ask yourself one question. The education system in America has changed very little in the last 150 years. If it is so bad, why was it never fixed?
Our system takes after the system the Prussians used at the height of their power. Their system was designed to "teach" the young men what the army needed them to know and nothing else.
Our version doesn't just serve the military, but our corporatist masters and bankers, who want blind, non-questioning consumers who will spend.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule well with many attempts from big govenment to "fix" it has not worked. If me move to a barter system how will the feds tax us to cover our socialist programs? Dude Im in ohio vouchers work here, they are not liked because they take money out of the public school system. Supers. making $200k-$500k, plus no thanks. Progressives don't like people to make their own choices, pure and simple. and is money, the re-distribion of wealth.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@LibzRule As far as energy goes, petroleum products can only be supplemented, they will only supplanted when necessary. Go back to the days of horse and buggy? dont think so, I love my 400 hp Subaru. No private ownership? do you have an open kitchen, that anyone can come in and make a meal? what about those who do not want to contribute? sorry sounds alot like communism to me. No thanks only 2 classes there. the ruling class, and everyone else. Some will eat very good, others will get crumbs
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
I don't think we are hijacking the OPs thread. In fact, it is a tribute to democracy that we can disagree and debate without threat of personaly safety. That was the point of his video. His mom was killed because the ruling junta thought she was politically subversive.
Now, I think you will find millions of smart, inventive Americans who could network and live near the poverty line. So capitalism = luck ?
Socialism may or may not need capitalism, but we don't need either!
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule To succeed yes you do need some luck. Some people believe that persistence and hard work lead to said "luck". so if we don't need either, what is your proposed ideal society? because we all now there are definitions for everything, and many definitions have been perverted.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
If you must name everything, I believe and support a resource-based, non-monetary economy. I stipulate that on any level, we have now or can easily create enough food, shelter and energy so that no human being need suffer from homelessness, starvation or even malnutrition. A combination of geothermal, tidal, solar and wind energy would mean never burning another drop of oil or spending another petrodollar. Second, without private ownership of land, we would be free to build
LibzRule 1 year ago
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jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
housing for all who need it. Lastly, acknowledging the fact that we waste Billions of dollars in subsidies to farmers to NOT grow crops, we have enough land and resources to feed the world.
Once these three necessities are no longer a problem, people will be free to persue goals that lead to increased sense of community.
This economic system is much better than either socialism or capitalism.
LibzRule 1 year ago
oh I thought this was like duck hunter Nin 64 parody and was waiting for Dick Cheney to come out of the bushes and shoot me with a 12 gauge....
Bojoe777NaBl 1 year ago
we arent a democracy, remember that
armyboy1207 1 year ago
@DerangederX Even if God wouldn't exist it would not do any damage to my argument... The argument was about Democracy not existing, but just being a big fat lie
jerhinus 1 year ago
The US Republic (Democracy) is the highest achievement by man in human history of government (by the people, for the people, of the people). Also by the same token it is the most corrupt idea man has come up with to rebel against the living God and deceive mankind.The Bible has always taught the will of man is the problem of sin, which brings death.Man cannot save. God chooses whom to save. The Bible Declares May21,2011 is Judgment Day. Not for everyone to see,but will be judged.wwwWeCanKnowCOM
ChristAmbassador1 1 year ago
@ChristAmbassador1
Religion is the opiate of the masses.
Therefore, you must be high as a kite.
Why are you bringing mythology into a discussion about government?
Besides, judgement day doesn't come until 2012. Haven't you seen the movie???
Don't worry, if you are nice to me, I will judge you worthy.
God is dead. I created him. I killed him.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule>Jer 13:25 This is thy lot, the portion of thy measures from me, saith the LORD; because thou hast forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood. 2012 IS FROM MAN.Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD;Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.May 21, 2011 IS FROM the BIBLE>For the vision is yet for an appointed time,but at the end it shall speak, and not lie:though it tarry, wait for it;because it will surely come,it will not tarry.Hab2:3
ChristAmbassador1 1 year ago
@ChristAmbassador1
Are you aware of exactly how inane it is to use bible quotes in an effort to get me to believe in the bible? How do people fall for this junk?
Look, I realize that there are some things in life that don't have easy answers. But we don't need to look to mythology or religion to find them.
Man created god, not the other way around. We created god to answer the tough questions (and to control the weaker of our species).
We cannot have freedom without freedom from god.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule "We cannot have freedom without freedom from god." thats the same arguement Satan worshipers and modern liberal/progressive movement, both for different reasons
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz Whats wrong with progressive movements? Are you a rich person who doesn't want to lose any power? A government official who doesn't want to lose power? Or do you just like being taken advantage of?
monkeylx1 1 year ago
@monkeylx1 Well the problem with the progressive movement is that for whatever reason they believe that socialism ans capitalism can coexist in a sustainable manner. I am not rich. and as long as socialism is in this country Im quite sure I dont want to be. When In fact it is the rich who pay for more than their "fair" share. You should have noticed by now the progressives in power only want more power, and in the spirit of Marx, make it inescapable.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
First, elements of socialism and capitalism DO exist in the economies of many nations in the world, including America. The question of whether America's economy is debatable, but not because of the socialist elements.
Second, I beg for you to provide some evidence that the rich pay more than their fair share, especially in the face of an income disparity that is widenning.
Third, you seem to be forgetting the many conservatives that have sought more power. Cheney for one?
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule wont let me reply
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
Wow, did you think that up all by yourself???
Look, if you aren't going to put any thought into your arguement, I'm not going to waste precious time on you. Good day.
I leave you with this:
The only belief we as humans need is the belief in each other and ourselves. What we are lacking in this century is a sense of community, a sense of our collective humanity. I think that the psuedo-religious have robbed us of our ability to empathize with our fellow man.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule "The only belief we as humans need is the belief in each other and ourselves." As in Marxist Communism right? M.C that wants to eliminate religion and personal property, etc. There are in fact many teachings in Christianities version of god that recommend we take care of our fellow man as well as many others. You lose the community when as progressive liberals believe in Central Planning. The intent of the Constitution was to limit central planning. Big government is the enemy
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@jdog420spaz
I find it strange that so many people who CLAIM to be christian conveniently forget that by today's standards, Jesus was a socialist. They never seem to reconcile that fact.
Considering the size of the American Federal government, do you think the Constitution has done a good job limiting central planning?
True, big government is the enemy. We should start by slashing the defense department by 60%. We would still be spending double what other nations spend. Also kill OFBI.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Im not christian, but I believe the 10 commandments work for a civil society. But Jesus a socialist, I doubt it. If he existed, He wouldn't of forced his beliefs on others by force or violence. If the Constitution wasn't perverted by progressives, it would be working for us just fine.18 enumerated powers is all the Fed should get as originally scribed. Ive heard as much as 2/3 of Fed Spending is unconstitutional. National Defense is one of the enumerated powers.
jdog420spaz 1 year ago
@ LibzRule I have lived in many socialist countries and you are wrong I know exactly what it does , it destroys work ethic. Perfect example is Cuba , which even the paragon of socialism Castro admitted that socialism doesnt work. Castro even admitted that his country has zero work ethic. Also America has destroyed its workforce with terrible trade deals, but you dont want to talk about those since socialists like Carter, Clinton , and The Bush family sold this country out.
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64
I can talk about trade agreements, but they aren't the entire problem. You alluded to 1913, the year the Fed was created (illegally?). That would be a better discussion to have if what you yearn for is the "good old days" of laissez-faire capitalism.
Also, I never claimed that socialism is perfect or even the solution. However, I wonder if you have lived in Sweden, Germany or Japan. All have more socialist programs than we do and have better economies. Cuba is a straw man.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64 ugh, I hate it when people cast aside socialism because it has never succeeded. I know it can't work these days, any intelligent person knows that. But if the majority of people learn to become altruistic, it will be the only solution, otherwise all the altruistic people will be run by madmen. And with technology taking all the jobs, in 500 years everything will be automated. Not many jobs will be available, so in order for people to live they will need a minimum income.
monkeylx1 1 year ago
A Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for lunch. In a Republic, there's a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
Democracy is not defined as "the right of life". All humans are born with a God-given/nature-given right to their lives, if you believe in the views of the American founding fathers. Government can't grant or take away that right. It can only protect or violate that right.
A Republic with a constitution that protects individuals from the wims of the mob is key.
BRYAN351 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 Don't forget all humans' unalienable rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as Thomas Jefferson put it, interchangeable with "property", in that things you make or purchase or trade are acquired because you want or need them...in the pursuit of happiness. And don't forget that it's impossible for any government to proactively protect any of these rights, but are only able to provide means of justice when these rights are broken. It is the individuals' responsibility to...
keefgtp 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 ...protect their own rights. The justice system is a handy deterrent against violating another person's rights, of course. The idea that a government would restrict a person's means of protecting their life, liberty, and property is pretty preposterous and incompatible with the idea of rights to begin with. Take England's handgun ban for instance, whereas in the US "castle doctrines" and concealed carry laws have gotten much attention recently and are becoming very popular indeed.
keefgtp 1 year ago
I think all the arguments in the comments page miss the point. We could have a complete democracy but it wouldn't matter if we still had no respect for life. We kill thousands of people to get oil. We take away people's home's to make plantations. We rarely consider the conditions the choices we make give to other people. If this continues, there will always be something downtrodden and voiceless.
previouslyadjetive 1 year ago
@llAmyGll Exactly... Still it is a dream that everyone would love...
God made the humans to have NO human leader, alas greedy people decided to not listen to God and take the faith of others making them nothing but sheep who follow and die when the "leaders" want..
It is a dream, that we could never achive cause of the greed and evilness of others, combined with the stupidity and arrogance of the "sheep"
jerhinus 1 year ago
@ LibzRule Its not semantics when its truth . Thats typical of those that live in the paradigm they live in gray areas. I want the countries our founders established not the crap the 2 parties have given us. NAFTA,GAT ect have ruined the American economy and both parties are responsible for that. I can care less about Europe or any other country America needs to get its own house clean and stop worrying about the Globalist crap. Again Socialism has failed Castro even admits it.
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64
First, I only mentioned other countries because you ASSumed that I hadn't seen enough of the world.
Second, if you think that trade agreements are the sole thing wrong with America, you are very late to the game.
Third, it is you who seems trapped in the Socialist vs. Capitalist paradigm, not I. You don't even seem to know very much about Socialism. Globalization via trade agreements is NOT a socialist concept.
Fourth, I don't want what our FFs left us, I want much better.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@LibzRule Wrong I dont live in a left vs right paradigm . Thats what is destroying America. I want America to go back to its founding principles, Also I have been in many socialist countries and have seen the disaster they are. And this country hasnt lived under capitalism since 1913. You people that live in these paradigm world views are so controlled by lies. You all need to get you butts off you comfy couches and see the world. Trade agreements are the reason for our unsustainabilty .
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64
Ok, if we are going to play the semantics game, we do not live in a capitalist society. We are a corporatist nation, ie. a fascism. By refering to 1913, do you mean the creation of the Fed, the most unholy of demons? Then yes, you are correct, although the concept of the central bank had been around in Europe for centuries. Trade agreements are just one branch of the tree of corporatism.
But Adam Smith style capitalism isn't the solution either.
LibzRule 1 year ago
@carlosyhector We are America we are a country that can self sustain ourselves. Its socialists like you that have ruined this once great nation. We went from a hard working , moral, and self sustaining society , to a lying, murdering, handout society. Does it sound familiar Carlos ? America has become Nazi Germany.We American need to take it back from the Nazi's and arrest and hang you all for the traitors you are. Ive seen men and women die for your lies, LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN !!!!!!!
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64
Ah, a Glen Beck watcher, are we?
Methinks you wouldn't know a true socialist if he kicked you in the balls.
And BTW, America could never and will never sustain itself. At the very least, we will never be able to sustain ourselves in the future, Capitalism guarantees the necessity of finding bigger markets of both consumers and workers.
We DO need to take America back from the current-day Nazis: the bankers, the CEOs, the MIC, Pharma, etc. and give it back to the people.
LibzRule 1 year ago
In English, there is no such thing as the right OF life, it is a wrong translation, you can either say the right to life, or the right life. I'm pretty sure you mean the former.
Julespsych 1 year ago
America is not a democracy we're a Constitutional Republic. We use democracy to elect our leaders, then our leaders use democracy to make legislation and policy but that legislation and policy CANNOT violate the Constitution. In pure democracy 51% of the population can vote to rape and murder you.
Kharmatos13 1 year ago
Complete ignorance
Bendamagic 1 year ago
Great video, people have to know what a war child is.
HUGO445231 1 year ago
Democracy is......your mom.
jaydaily3 1 year ago 2
man hazte un videíto de quién es Dios y generaras más polémica
romeroaudiovisual 1 year ago
Yea, just becuase it's democratic doesn't mean it's free. There are no truly free countries in the world, and no one better say the USA is free becuase the USA has more incarcerated than any other nation.
iTrustDoubt 1 year ago
@iTrustDoubt USA is free, there you go i said it.
carlosyhector 1 year ago
@carlosyhector Go out into public screaming "Profanities" or smoke some marijuana or organize a rally without permission in the USA and you will find very quickly that it's not a "Free" nation. As I said before there are no free nations.
He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither-Benjamin Franklin
iTrustDoubt 1 year ago
Wow this video is stupid, you would have to be really dumb to buy this shit.
arnarfreyrdagsson 1 year ago
@arnarfreyrdagsson You know is real life... I agree is very stupid that this type of things happen to someone
juanppatino 1 year ago
@juanppatino No no... I mean that this has anything to do with democracy. Its just some random story with the worlds "Democracy is Freedom" in the end.
arnarfreyrdagsson 1 year ago
@arnarfreyrdagsson has nothing to do*
arnarfreyrdagsson 1 year ago
@arnarfreyrdagsson just because you don't want something to be true doesn't mean isn't-- saying that people are dumb and the video is shit doesn't stop it from being something that happens to people, it just makes you stupid sounding and ignorant.
previouslyadjetive 1 year ago
Democracy is fail. It will always crumble into oligarchy. Don't get me wrong, the people are ALWAYS the ones that should have the power... but in a democracy there is feeble individual justice. People's judgment can be manipulated. Only a republic ever has any real chance of surviving. ONLY a republic.
norevelation 1 year ago
Democracy has never ever worked its just gotten people killed, If you did one bit of research you would learn that but you live in that left-right paradigm and you believe what those liars tell you. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, and the Roman Empire all claimed to be democracies. You the self centered one that would believe in a self centered ideology that have had more people murdered then any ever. God Bless you and I will Pray the Lord opens your eyes .
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64 lets hope he opens your eyes
carlosyhector 1 year ago
all those weapons camed from Amerika, France, Dutchland and other countries, that is a sad thought
smaug131 1 year ago
@smaug131 America
exra82 1 year ago
@exra82 the other lands too, i saw a top 10 of weapon traders in 2003 list on school today (that made me write this comment), where Amerika was on 1, but France was somewhere in the 5, 4 or 3 place and Dutchland in the 7 or 8 place.
i don't remember the other countries any more.
smaug131 1 year ago
@smaug131 and the people pulling the trigger on all those weapons are the Colombians...... that is a sad thought.
carlosyhector 1 year ago
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The democracy is not the good way...
vajasman 1 year ago
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Democracy is a terrible form of government and has lead too over 200 million deaths world wide. The 210 people that voted like for this video are lost little sheeple. You can have you democracy socialism crap , I want the Representative Republic that our founders established back, To you so called Americans that want democracy please move out of America so we can have our country back.
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
Democracy is a terrible form of government and has lead too over 200 million deaths world wide. The 210 people that voted like for this video are lost little sheeple. You can have you democracy socialism crap , I want the Representative Republic that our founders established back, To you so called Americans that want democracy please move out of America so we can have our country back.
sgtwalker64 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64 True democracy never existed n as long people think the way you do it will never exist..
kwstaras 1 year ago
@sgtwalker64 And yet, democracy makes it work. This is not about the situation in your country, you self-centered idiot.
Perszeusz 1 year ago
This video makes a very powerful statement about our world and the failings of those countries that enjoy a democratic government today. Well done!
SpinachSalad01 1 year ago
Simple all who go along with us are Democratic , those who don't go along are in human. We should invade and hang.
Sadam was a good boy, then he became non democratic we hanged him.
MegaContented 1 year ago
Gay animation is GAAAAY!
WorstCommenter2008 1 year ago
even in democracy we are free only one day, day of election (not my idea, dont remember who said it, but its true)
TruePolvora 1 year ago
Las imágenes son buenas pero el contenido es dudoso, no se sabe si es la guerrilla, la delicuencia, o los paras, por lo tanto es infame y calumnia a toda Colombia. No me gusta, si se aclara quien es ok.
jorgeclaro100 1 year ago
democracy is mob rule
MrBlimbo 1 year ago
it's true................?
lovelyprincess46 1 year ago
Sorry Juan, but "democracy" is an awful form of government. Majority rule is very dangerous with respect to individual freedom and rights, because there is no limit to what majority rule can decide. Sure, you can have laws, but if the majority of the people decides to ignore the laws and take your kids from you then what good are the laws? Democracy is very dangerous and that's why the US has a republic, not a democracy.
Watch the video The American Form of Government for a good explanation.
keefgtp 1 year ago
@keefgtp
I agree
TheSupremeSkeptic 1 year ago
@keefgtp in theory the US is a democracy in that the people vote, but instead its for officials who make the choices for them. i agree that a direct democracy is dangerous and the progressive movement in america is trying to create a direct democracy that is mostly socialist. how the mightly are falling.
nhuston528 1 year ago
@nhuston528 No, not in theory at all. The US system is a republic by design, look up the definition of "republic". The video I mentioned explained that the word "democracy" doesn't even appear in any founding documents of the Federal or State governments. Historically, troubled governments always dissolve into an oligarchy, which is rule by a powerful few. And then they fail completely. It's a fact proven over thousands of years of human history but many people can't be bothered to care.
keefgtp 1 year ago
@keefgtp Guess what, Colombia is also a republic, and a great deal of people gets past the rules, like in any other government in the world, but far from the majority, statistically speaking. Democracy is not just a form of government, and would a republic exist without it?
Perszeusz 1 year ago
@Perszeusz Democracy is defined specifically as a form of government, that's what the word means. But it's only a temporary form of government at that. It's unsustainable because there is no limit to "government" power - the government being the people at large. In a republic the government is separate from the people but representative of the people, and has limits on what powers it may have. Very few powers in the US's case, but sadly most people don't care so the government runs rampant.
keefgtp 1 year ago
@keefgtp Democracy, derived from Latin "Democratia", and ultimately from Greek dēmokratia (dēmos=people, kratia=rule), or "rule of the people", of the majority, in this context used to refer to the right to vote and the equality (or not) of all human beings within a state.
Perszeusz 1 year ago
lo que es el estatuto político de su país? Una vez vi "dont tell my mother Columbia" y fue horrible. para luchar por la verdadera democracia debemos unirnos con independencia de nuestros países, razas, religión y color.
toughlightyear 1 year ago
True democracy is mob rule institutionalized. That's why we don't have one.
MHPSpokane 1 year ago
???
This had nothing to do about democracy, just people suffering in Columbia!
texaschizophrenic 1 year ago
Democrat = DEMOlition RAT
SteveXnycperformance 1 year ago
@SteveXnycperformance That isn't as clever as you think it is.
classicwater13 1 year ago
@classicwater13 keep fighting, it what sick people do.
SteveXnycperformance 1 year ago
its like Runescape classic.
excabilus 1 year ago
If only che was here...
QuadroGuitarist 1 year ago
Democracy doesn't exist.. Demos-people Cratos-power
It means that THE PEOPLE have the power.. but they don't they just vote someone who does things that the people don't want.
For democracy to exist it would be necesary that there would be NO learers NO presidents, NO parlament, but the people to take the decisions that would affect the country, like make a huge refferendum and then all the decision to be applied also by the people..
That is Democracy... but Democracy never existed,never will
jerhinus 1 year ago 13
@jerhinus True democracy is not only unworkable but is also a slow sytem and wouldn't be good.. its a great idea though.. but unless people were perfect the system would suck
but hey if people were perfect any government would work.. like communism or even a moarchy
FatelShot13 1 year ago
@FatelShot13 And by saying that you proove to yourself and to everyone else here that the thing that this "commercial" promotes is NOT democracy, couse democracy does not exist..Instead it is just a lie.. a lie for what?..
Look arround..Thugs,stupid people,alcooholics,drug addicts,whores,criminals,mafia,corupt officials,theft,
A system made to give all the power to the leadership people and ruin the world
jerhinus 1 year ago
@jerhinus NO matter what anyone does (any government power), They will not be able to truly control the choices of the people. Thugs, alcoholics, drug addicts, whores etc. These choices most of the people make are based solely on their own lives, Not the Government.... If you dislike democracy so much go to a country with a dictator who controls your every move... Or go to a place where there is no government.... tell me how that works out.
TAVIEMAYBE 1 year ago
@TAVIEMAYBE I'd gladly do it if I had the possibilityes right now..
Look at China.. they got a dictator and they have NO economical crysis, NO thugs and other gang shit, Advanced technology, AWESOME comfort...
Look at the Democracy countryes.. Polluation,thugs,stupid people doing stupid stuff(In America a woman sued a dog or an elephant) I never heard that crazy shit in countryes in which democracy doesn't exist
jerhinus 1 year ago 2
@jerhinus you obviously have not been to China..
TeamshakeNbake 1 year ago
@TeamshakeNbake In china the Democracy is for the fucked people who control the government. You have no chance to vote or be voted, except your parents works in the government . Almost all of the people haven't see a ballot ticket in their whole lives. The media is controlled by the gov. All the news you can get is the gov is very busy and so kind. None of the bad news can be reported. In china ,all my people want to say is "fuck the china communist party"!
zhangyd6 1 year ago
@zhangyd6 you did not read the comment I was responding to or you would realize we are saying the same thing.
TeamshakeNbake 1 year ago
@jerhinus *cries* THATS SO TRUE!
matthew44able 1 year ago
@jerhinus If we had a high consul, some elected by the people and some elders experienced or highly respected volunteers who together made decisions for the people, for the interest of that people and for the benefit for the people.
In almost every nation in the world, in these so called high consul (parliament/ ruling government), they do what is in best interest for them self and have hidden agenda. Always about money and power.
DeLenoy 1 year ago
@jerhinus That's preposterous and you know it.
hateyouifyoukillme 1 year ago
@hateyouifyoukillme I just don't want to fight over it anymore... Had to many fights today(not over the internet) and this 1 is the last 1 I need..
Thank you for the understanding
jerhinus 1 year ago
@jerhinus Yeah i bet you get beaten up daily, you a wuss mate, you a PUSSEH. Your ass belongs to US.
WorstCommenter2008 1 year ago
@WorstCommenter2008 First of all Asshole.. I do not live in the U.S. second of all I am not geting beaten, I beat the shit out of stuff if it is needed..
3rd Thing is that it is NOT me who has fights but my parents,who actually fight about the fucking cousin who actually is supposed to eat at the school mess hall but that damn mess hall ain't opening or he ain't going and he keeps coming here for food.. I don't give a fuck about that but I am disturbed that I keep hearing yells .
jerhinus 1 year ago
@jerhinus We have power! We can vote, we have our rights! We can say what we want. For me it's freedom. If there will be no president, no parliament then it will be anarchy.
BlaqPainTV 1 year ago
@BlaqPainTV If anarchy means that i will define my life n my opinion will matter to the world as much as everyone's else then 'anarchy' i want...
N sidenote.. Of course people have power... We just don't use it.. Some elite will always shape your opinion through media, propaganda or any type of violence (physical, mental, psychological)
kwstaras 1 year ago
@jerhinus Democracy was created back about 2.500 years in ancient Athens. Back then Demos (The People) had the power to elect or blackball anyone who was eligible to be voted again coming from the People himself. Back then nobility, wealth, political power had no effect over anyone's mind. Therefore 600-500 B.C was Athens Classical(or Gold) Century. But alas this prosperity couldn't long any longer due to may reasons.... That is my quote to your comment my friend: Democracy Did Exist.
Jonneh95 1 year ago 3
@Jonneh95 True,yet there was still some discrimination of the simple ones compared to the nobles. but just as you said, it is bad it didn't last
jerhinus 1 year ago
@jerhinus
Yeah, cuss that would'nt be caotic at all. Not with 7 billion (soon to be 10) people on this planet.
libbern 1 year ago
@jerhinus ultimate democratie can't exist, i agree with that, but we have at least a little democratie, and im happy with that
smaug131 1 year ago
@jerhinus democracy is a idea which has various systems that use it. You are talking about direct democracy, when people themselves can vote . In the modern world we have chosen for a democracy with representatives. The idea is that these people whom we elect are there to vote in our place. Normally they will cast their vote the same as you would. The reason being that you choose them because of their idea being the same as yours. Anyone saying democracy fails should show me something better.
666jezus666 1 year ago
@jerhinus that's a direct democracy. there are other forms of democracies, like a representative democracy, or a discursive democracy. please don't say things like "democracy never existed, never will" without knowing the different types that do in fact exist.
HeywoodJablowem 1 year ago
@jerhinus
if we had a true democracy many more innocent people would have died im sure as a result of 9/11... the republic in america is put into position to stop certain pulses and sways of the public position. you get a bunch of dumb uninformed angry people together and the whole world would be blown the fuck up
lutherhans 1 year ago
@jerhinus have you seen Belarus?
BoeingBeatsAirbus 1 year ago
@jerhinus
i agree with you, freedom is when PEOPLE vote things and take decisions not the presidents
for example today, when a country go to war is beacause the president want it not the people is one's person opinion and thats not freedom
PEOPLE should choose what they want, for example marijuana is ilegal because of one's person opinion not because people want it illegal
SileDevil 1 year ago
democracy is not freedom is just another political sytem
SileDevil 1 year ago 14
@SileDevil Exactly
ZaPickful 1 year ago
dont let the government do this to your family! stand up for youramerican rights!
bass109 1 year ago
jesus cares for you come back to church!
bass109 1 year ago
@bass109 the church doesnt exactly portray jesus' teachings. Im assuming your catholic as i was raised since you do call it church. Why should people come back to an institution that covers up sick and twisted crimes such as child molestation. You want me back in church... then prosecute these sick people and their leadership.
adion33 1 year ago
Amazing what a war child in Colombia can teach us about respect for life, and yet we still debate over abortion....incredible, and a very good submission. Congratulations are in order for turning such a sad event into a positive contribution!
Steamrunner92 1 year ago 5
@Steamrunner92 Thank´s for your comment, we really whant to fight against this reality.
juanppatino 1 year ago
@Steamrunner92 what do you exactly mean by that? that arbortion is wrong?
if so, do state why.
pts99 1 year ago
@pts99 i think he means that the debate about it looks unimportant after seeing this
smaug131 1 year ago
@smaug131 i got that much down, but i wanna know in which way it's unimportant.
the reason is that i support arbortion ;)
pts99 1 year ago
@pts99 it isn't unimportant (i didn't say that!), but if you look at these horrible things, that is more important, right?
smaug131 1 year ago
true
brenodadalto 1 year ago
@brenodadalto Yes it is
juanppatino 1 year ago
ggggg
hah2010hah 1 year ago
Very good ! I saw you on the Today show and was like wow a fellow Colombian! Congrats and how long are you in the Area? I live near NYC maybe we can chat.
eroadz 1 year ago
@eroadz Thank´s for your comment I will be in New York until saturday you should search on facebook for juan pablo patino
juanppatino 1 year ago
Juan Pablo quiero felicitarte, te vi esta manana en el Today show, que orgullo ver a un colombianito sacar la cara por todos, tan joven y tan talentoso :) Sigue triunfando nunca desistas :)
jennytox29 1 year ago
Juan Pablo quiero felicitarte, te vi esta manana en el Today show, que orgullo ver a un colombianito sacar la cara por todos, tan joven y tan talentoso :) Sigue triunfando nunca desistas :)
jennytox29 1 year ago
@jennytox29 Muchas gracias por tu comentario en realidad me gustaría contar con tu apoyo para la difusión de este mensaje, muchas gracias. Facebook: Juan Pablo Patino
juanppatino 1 year ago