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  • So after sex with Adam, you really have to sit down on that couch to recover! LOL

  • I remember when this scene first aired last summer. I thought I was imagining Adam reuniting with a former gay lover. I see now I wasn't drunk or imagining. This is truly a first for Y & R. I know because I've been a loyal fan(until the Mac & Billy cousin-plot twist). In the past Y & R has always shyed away from portraying gay/lesbian relationships or civil union portrayals. I agree with you finylvingy66 Y & R has been unrealistic in this aspect!

  • Oh my god! Adam is so evil! I love it!

  • XD I'm actually enjoying this storyline. Hopefully, it continues for a long while. Dump Heather, Adam.

  • I'm starting to like Adam. He's prove to be a certified maniac. He's killed a baby. And he's willing to have gay sex to keep his scheming going. He's the Norman Bates of Soap Operas!

  • "he's willing to have gay sex to..." he WAS in prison remember lol. I shouldnt joke about that stuff actually

  • eww...doing the deed with two people within minutes of each other? gross.

  • Rafe touched him then the next scene-they're dressing! They didn't treat the srt8 sex scene the same way-they kissed first.

    How tiresome. But thankx for posting! Rafe is worth it:)

  • Duh! Kissing between two men on an American soap is still a no no. Remember how long it took Luke and Noah on ATWT? And then how long it took them to do it again? Compare it to any European soap like VL, AWZ, Spangas, Eastenders, the Hollyoaks. We are YEARS behind it :-( Is there any hope at all?

  • I've been watching Y & R since '81 and I believe Rafe is the first gay character I've seen. This is ridiculous, considering the hundreds of characters that have passed through this show. I like a soap to have some sense of realism, and denying that

    there are gay people around is certainly not realistic. Besides, think how many gay people would watch if they had some

    characters to root for.

  • Heather is pathetic, she needs to find a new job, I don't believe she's ever won a case.

  • oh my fk rafe is soooooooooo cute~!

  • This developing Adam/Rafe storyline is the best they have on Y&R. More More MORE!

  • I think that the actor who plays Rafe is doing such a magnificent performance, bringing such sensitivity and warmth to his character. He's incredible. Wayne

  • i think Adam is sadistic... first he tortures a pregnant woman who has been nothing but nice to him and makes her lose her baby and then cleans her of the evidence which is nasty but then he use Rafe's feelings and sexuality against him all to further his psycho plans. i'm not surprised Engen didn't want to play this, Adam gets worse and worse everyday.

    i hope when this is over they do an actual positive gay s/l.

  • Heather seems like such a ditz!

  • She is, and the worst ADA in history. Now she's tasting Rafe's nuts on her lunatic boyfriend's lips. BHAHAHAHA!

  • I think Rafe won this one. He's got to know Adam was not into it. I think Y&R is being to timid with their gay storyline.

  • everyone keeps saying that adam needed heather because he wanted to wash off his experience with Rafe. Personally, I'm hoping he enjoyed it with rafe, and then wanted to reassure himself of his sexuality by inviting over heather. Just my little fantasy :)

  • There is no limit to what Adam will do to get out of a jam. I just hope that Rafe doesn't get used like Heather. It's difficult to put your feelings out there like that only to be crushed by reality. Adam is a rat. I hope all his dirty tricks come back to haunt him for the rest of his life.

  • Wait, I'm confussed.

    Is Adam just using a gay man? Or are the writers just using a gay man?

  • Did you see adam wipe his Mouth? i think we all know what he's just been doing lol <3

  • Is Adam gay?

  • PaperBagRecords, as far as we know, no , Adam is NOT gay. He's just a schemer trying to cover his tracks and apparently got more then he bargained for when he tried to con Rafe with that phoney "I have feelings for you " bullshit. :-)

  • I'm thinking that Adam bottomed to Rafe. Why else would he have to call Heather over so quickly? He needed to prove he was still a "man". Or maybe that's just me...

  • lol...the psychology of bottoms...lol

  • I have to disagree with you on that one. Even trying to con Rafe, I don't think he could have bottomed. But just the notion of having any sort of sexual contact with Rafe was so repugnant to Adam because he's straight, that he had to bring Heather over to "wash it away." Over the commercial break we saw he showered, and he probably had a drink or two as well. Same thing happens when a guy picks up a cross dresser.

  • You make VERY good points and of course we will never know. But I think that in order to make his con convincing, I think he would have been the submissive in this situation...at least for this first time.

  • We see Adam's straight kiss but not his gay kiss.

    This is discrimination! We should protest!

  • Did the kiss actually happen, or was it an almost-kiss? I hope they didn't wimp out on showing a kiss. Come on, jeez!

  • i think they wimped out! not the actors but maybe the writers or network. but it's just my guess! :)

  • I LOVED watching this today. Adam actually went as far as to have sex with Rafe to hide his scheming, what a dog! But Rafe is so lovable anyone would want him.

  • i like this storyline :d

  • Um, they made the bed? Twice?

  • Maybe they just gave each other blow jobs on the couch. Rafe's sitting on it. I'm starting to love this storyline!

  • thanks for posting, but it seems this will go the way of the other american gay soap lines, slow as molasses, grrrrrr

  • Does Rafe know about Adam? this is so confusing. AAAHHHH!

  • hotchica149,

    They haven't made that obvious yet, but I think Rafe's uncontrollable grin while Adam is trying to get rid of him means that Rafe is entirely aware that Adam is full of shit. :-)

  • I know right, he totally looks like he's thinking, 'Whatever, I got what I wanted Mofo' LOL.

  • lol

  • Well, what the hell was that? Not much for the "after" spoon and cuddle on Y&R are they? Adam's motives with Rafe can't be motivated by desire, he's just too snakey to pass up manipulating someone to his advantage, no matter what he has to do.

  • OMG!!!! When is this ever going to stop!!!! WHy cant aq guy just know what he wnats instaed of being confused. I hate to say this, but not every gay guy is confused like society thinks they are! THis is so unbelieveable.

  • the sad reality is that because of homophobia some guys are, that to me is the main point, that people are afraid to show the love they feel for fear of being rejected, hated, or even worse. i don't blame the gay guy, i blame society for being so homophobic, grrrrrrrrrrrr

  • rasperryman1968,

    Adam isn't confused in his sexuality. He's straight. He's sleeping with Rafe because he painted himself into a corner. This story isn't a romance or a coming out story. It's about a manipulator who just may be getting manipulated tight back.

    It looks like Rafe will be toting with Adam to get the evidence he needs to prove his Aunt Estella is innocent.

    Adam played a dangerous game and Rafe has upped the ante. :-)

  • I agree, and I hate that the only "gay" story on this show ever is nothing but a gay man being played.

    I'm just wondering if Adam will realize that he has some feelings for Rafe while he's deceiving him, and the writers will use his repressed sexuality as a way to try to explain away why he's been so emotionally bankrupt and Rafe will be his true love. Or not. They better do something to make this story good.

    Thanks for posting!!

  • I know what you mean. On the one hand, it's about time Y&R addressed a gay storyline, being so politically backward it's stunning. But that they'd break it in with this type of story really sucks. What's worse is that it propigates the myth that homosexuality is a "disease you can contract". I really hope that they'll develop a healthier alternative to this storyline.

  • No kiss? I want to see the kiss between Adam and Rafe.

  • i think they didnt show it due to chris egan ordeal like if they showed it maybe it wont make the fans think he left cuz of that kiss instead of leavin cuz of the fact he didnt like storyline

  • wonder which one was better. hmmmm I think we know

  • Adam's sure had a busy day but that bed doesn't appear to have been used!

  • I think Adam and Rafe (Btw what is their nickname?) did it on the couch and I do not know about the him and Heather.

  • That's what I think too. As far as I know they don't have a nickname and I suspect they won't...but you never know!

  • nickname is "RAM"

  • ooooh, I likey! :)

    RAM, Ram is great.

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  • Yay consensual semi-rape!

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