Inside Story - Secularism in Turkey - 03 Jul 08 - Part 1

[nofreedom4racists]

I don't think Turkey should join the EU which is basically a vassal of the U.S. I think Turkey is better off being a power of its own as it was throughout its history. The west is so pathetic that they are even suspicious of their allies. The only thing that unites them at the moment is their hatred of all religions in general not only Islam. If Islam is gone, they will destroy each other after. Trust me on that.

[oofeewise]

turkey will face an islamic revolution soon, secularism will face worst than Iran

[Precise2011]

@oofeewise

After that it would burn in nuclear fire.

[vilalge82]

If Long live secular Turkey means that my sister and so many shouldn't be able to go to the universities with the scarf or Turban or Basortusu on their head then fuck that such a idiology.People of Turkey so the Turkey is under the influence of West and East.That means there is no apparent two sides so called 'Islamists' and 'Laicists' as it's argued by so many carelessly.Turkey is doing her best now.Whole world admit that except Turkey's the most brilliant,handsome and pretty people "Laicists"

[Tangirl73]

@mangalajmal LOW LIFE!!! THERE WOULD BE NOOOO TURKEY IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR ATATURK. STOP HATING!

[Kisa8092]

Goods

[leotakesleo]

Long Live Islam..Down with Secular Barbarism and Savagery!!!

[TheDurtbird]

@mangalajmal HEY PAKI, WATCH YOUR MOUTH BEFORE SOMEONE BREAKS IT.

[futuramark]

120 al qaeda terrorists cuaght in turkey...turkey funds terrorism..deport all turks out of EU..and never let them join

[IdelUralState]

There is a shameful mistake in 02:08 .

Instead of Deniz Baykal they wrote Denez Baykal.

[ed291]

The identity and Secular political ideology is currently under threat. The AKp has taken over the executive with the prime minister ship, the parliament with the presidency and soon will erode away the power of the judiciary. The only way to save the republic from this coup is the Military which unfortunately are run by old men kemalists who will retire and when they do, they will be replaced by generals more favorable to AKp hence the destruction of the secular republic within 10 years.

[CananK1986]

people just think secularism is anti-islam what they dont realise is that under a secular rule all religions are given the freedom to co-exist...

Sorry to have to say this but to all these non-Turkish citizens "what the f**k "is it to you what happens in Turkey... you werent around defending the rights and the well being of the people of Turkey. It was the Ataturk, his ideas and the hard work of the people of Turkey that made Turkey what it is today. A Secular state (always and forever).

[newtype64]

Islam also gives other relgions the right to exist as they please. Is banning the hijab in Universites freedom of co-existance?

[mahfooz86]

islam is really secularism how muhammad(pbuh) behaved in their life and how is their relationship with other nobeliver only true muslim knows and one who studied quran and hadith knows..

[mahfooz86]

they won battle because at that they are real muslim..

they lost war when he throws islamic rule and regulation and forget god..

[Gawdator]

Long live secular Turkey!

[MoPete15]

On the authority of Ibn 'Umar, radiyallahu 'anhuma, who said: The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, took me by the shoulder and said: "Be in this world as though you were a stranger or a traveler/wayfarer."

[maviinsan]

hem laik hem müslüman olunmaz

[BaLiKesiRsTyLe10]

hem akilli hem AKP li olunmaz

ya Akilli olacaksin yada AKPli

[dodomodtr]

I'm a secular Turk like lots of my friends ,I have too many muslim friends  ( not Islam in Arabic countries) but it's not a problem ,because we have a secular lifestyle

[AppleMacZak]

turkey used to be the heart of the islamic world but now after the introduction of secularism the so called muslims in control of the region have just turned more towards atheism. only 3% of turkey belongs to europe but it still is part of the eu etc...

[hairybeast101]

ata turk is the biggest loser.

[VlkClk]

nope actually he won several wars and become marshall and declared independence! YOU are the loser!

[tyenuj]

Actually he won several battles, and lost one war.

Yes he has declared turkeys independence from islam, but turned it into the lapdog of the western powers.

So actually he isnt a loser, he is a homosexual lapdog of french philosophy and religion.

[schattenfaust]

/watch?v=C9lb1bL9isM

!!!!

[3mkk]

watch?v=PTYkGhKbLAU

look at this then its arabain but it shows how the stupid jews are tring to burn and destroy alquds but they won`t destroy it becase allah will protect his houses and look at how they are being rude and stuping palestinain from entering alaqsa mosque, this jews no mater what we do with them they are useless they anoyed mohammmad and essa and mossa they killed yahya and zekrya they are killing poor arabs in palestine these are the crimes of bani israel !!!!

[schattenfaust]

/watch?v=PIIvdbHm0j0 listen to this written to God:)epic music.

[3mkk]

watch?v=WjQnGOz-Uys

[3mkk]

205 palestinian are died today in less then 24 hour from the cursed israeli allah destroy them and the "muslim" turks are supporting israel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­

[tyenuj]

The turks are not muslims, they are just a mixture of athists and sufis, both being equally useless.

So your comment has no validity.

[VlkClk]

tyenuj. why dont you go and have sex with your sister? i think you are eligible to harrest underage individuals according to your fucking religion,too, arent you? Son of a whore!

[3mkk]

/watch?v=U3Cujx8vmxA

this bueatiful turkish music which is sad and it is representing our ummah now, wish mehdi can come as soon as possible!!!

[UKIMPORTS]

Turkey is begging to get into Europe, they are kept out like a Dog is kept out of a House, it pisses me off to see Such a Great Nattion Like Turkey, who's History was of rulers has to beg the West. They should tell them to F'Off and make a New Block, China, Iran, Pakistan & Turkey. Also sum1 needs to take over these Arab Slave Countries. Plus Aljazeera is Dodgy, it's like the Dajjal, it's face is sweet but inside it's Heart is Black. Bring back the Ottoman Empire please sum1. دولت عالیه عثمانیه

[numbersyesno]

Turkey has to improve it's human rights record and political situation e.g. Cyprus - but once it achieves this, it will become a member of the EU if it wishes to do so.

As for your dumb proposal for a Union with monstrous, horrible countries like Iran and China, that's idiotic. Turkey is a pluralist, liberal, democracy and has nothing in common with countries like China and Pakistan.

[UKIMPORTS]

Turkey, pluralist, liberal, democracy??? You been getting high on the Hasish grown there or something? OK, Just keep begging like a Dog to your White European Masters. Goodluck.

[architecturalmind]

begging like a dog? you need to calm down, i think your really angry, is this the first time your using youtube? take a pill or something.

[CruelBoddhisatva]

Are you Turkish by any chance? Because if you want to bring back the Ottoman Empire then you're basically wanting to undo all the reforms made by Atatürk.

And honestly, Turkey with Pakistan and Iran? Islamists?! Choose you're side will ya?

[lcarsnet]

Atatürk... wasn't he schizophrenic?

[Nukem2343]

Well yh are you talking about the same ottoman empire that scared other nations and kept on conquering lands for economic and political gain, well sounds abit like America today huh.

Every empire no matter where it rises, is the same. So stop thinking your stupid religion had anything to do with it and don't even think it will come back. Technology is the backbone of every empire to come in the future and you muslims prefer to read that stupid green book instead of science text books.

[odd156]

now, who is being racist, untolerable and has tons of prejudice ideas? I'm not going to urgue with u man. but If you really do care and want to know more plz read some history books about islam and science or you can even watch here on youtube what islam has brought to science. and this "green book" u talk about it's our holy book so try to show some respect (oh opps on second though no u don't have, only muslims should respect others but not vice versa right?) Quran described basic embryology,

[odd156]

astronomy and gegrophy (the presince of a North pole was described in the Quran as well as mentioning that the dead sea is lowest spot on earth) I'm a muslim and I read the Bible in order to learn more about christianity, so that i won't make ignorant base-less statements like u did.

[schattenfaust]

Try to learn who betray Ottoman Empire.But Turkiye already had strong ties with Pakistan for example if someone try to invade pakistan i am sure many Turks including me running for help.Just like chechenia,afghanistan.

[schattenfaust]

%85 of People against the membership of EU but sell out goverment want to join it.Without Arabs bringing Ottoman Empire is "imposible".

[osmanischermoslem]

Its not important to bring the Ottoman Empire back, its important to bring the UMMAH and the Caliphate back. All Muslims will live under one flag in one country named Islamic Ummah and hopely there will be no racism, no nationalism or other ethnic conflicts inshallah.

[schattenfaust]

Amin..

[3mkk]

i wish this will happen but arabs are my brothers in genes ..

and they are planning in making arabia one country instead of islamic country ..

by the way arab hate persions ,, kurds hate turks ,, turks hate arabs ,, how will we unite and we hate each other !!!!!!!

[schattenfaust]

Arabian nationalism is crushed against israel and usa,today only Lebanon Hezbollah can stand against israel.

We Turks doesnt hate Kurds,pkk terrorist doesnt represent Kurds they all trained by Armenia,Greece and Israel supplied by USA,

Capitalist forces playing with us,they spread hatred we have to stand as ONE,just open your eyes you will see it Freedom about to arrive to our lands.

[3mkk]

arabain nationalism is useles, most of arabs were against it, you know hezbolah are les then 1 million person and al of them shia if the sunna nad durzi and shia unite and i`m talking about lebanease israel wil be crushed easily, but as arabs says not every thing we want we get!

kurds are good people and salehdin is a good example abut them,

i wish arab and non-arab muslims unite but there are a lot of racist between muslims

know muslims add up to 24% of the world populartion and we are weak

[schattenfaust]

We are not weak at all,we just lack of education,extremist munafiks poisoned our people minds,we must educate our childrens,we must teach them they are not alone every muslims has to know they have brother and sister in every muslim community in the world.

Remember Prophet Muhammed and Khalifah Ali's words about education,First order in islam was "READ".Dont loose your hope sun will shine again freedom wil return to our lands again.

[3mkk]

brother we are 1.8 billion and we have a small amount of control ,, jews add up to 5 milloin have much much more control then us , they role the us also ,, education and miltiry some muslims country dose not teach there people any thing about how to be an army ,, in the attman empire days muslims had great power becse they were united and they were just 12.6% and now we are 24% and we have small amount of power which something make me sad and every muslim ,,

[schattenfaust]

No brother you are wrong,Rich Arab Sheiks have more money on the US economy than Jewish people.Why they dont invest their money to muslim countries?

and please remember Pen is more dangerous than sword.

Ottomans was strong because they had very good education system its called "enderun" they gather all smart kids and they educated them but later they forgot the education and let the father to son system and everything is collapse within 150 years.

Dont be sad just open your eyes.

[3mkk]

well this is the first time i hear that ,, by the way kuwait is building a lot of mosque in combodia and there are alot of combodain who are converting to islam ,, my goverment pays great amount all around muslims poor countries ..

you know we already in kuwait had improved our education before two years and our books are the hardest ever at fist year there wher complaintment for about 70% , second year 40% , this year 10% until know ,,

[3mkk]

muslims who envented the numaricle number not greek, algebra, navigation, trigs and many other topic wre invented by muslim not greek.

in doctor ibn sina, alrazi, alzhrawi all of them muslim.

in geography aladrisi who was muslim.

in medice how was jaber bin hyan who also made many topics in chemistry.

there are plenty of muslim scentist in the past and today most of muslim are not producble and the depend on the west or japan and chine, we used to teach now we get touched what a shame on us.

[schattenfaust]

Please look india within 10 years they become number 1 country of world about computer systems how?

we have to change our ways,it cant be easy but it isnt imposibble also.

China defeated by japan 60 years ago how they reach tech level?

solution is simple brother and we can do it but now with thoose leaders.

[3mkk]

i have great recpect to indai they are so clever and they always have solution by the way islam is greatly increasing in indai and already now there are 140,ooo muslim there,

you now mostfa kamel your leader i read his story yes he removed islam totaly from turky but he was hard and he made al turks to get educated and know turks are the most educated people in the region

secularism or shrai the important we unite there also enmies in turkey who band hijab which agianst isalm and secularism

[schattenfaust]

Mustafa Kemal was True warrior,he always spend his life with wars,many people doesnt know but he go to fight against italians against libia in 1911?he was friend with Omar Muhtar he doesnt ban hijab he ban burka which ia nothind to do about with islam if you ask me,he exiled ottoman sultan and khalifah because they work for British because they was traitors.He spend his life with fighting for our freedom.

Secularism is not a bad thing and doesnt against islam.

[3mkk]

secularism is not against islam, but the way its being used in turkey, tunsia, france and other is being used wrong, and i wil give you example about your country,is hijab band or not leting turkish movie being filmed in mosque or fighting any islamic party this is not secularism, secularism makes every relgion do what it wnt to do but do not effect any one

by the way the curent turkey president is islamic and over 50% of the turksih pareliment are islamics the ret are secular but also muslm

[schattenfaust]

Hijab is not banned on Turkey,if you notice %70 of Turkish women wears hijab but religious symbols in state buildings its forbidden.

We are muslim and we are secular,we dont need a islamic party(many of them corrupted to core) to teach our religion Elhamdulillah we know our religion very well.

[3mkk]

hijab must not be band and i think the turksih goverment well know how it dose not effect any one and it`s important in islam ,, in kuwait 15% muslims secular , 60% muslims want sharia , but our role subjects is like the french but it has added 120 islamic subject more and cancelled few and 25% of kuwaities agree with this role ,, i agree twith the current role ..

by the way you turks were to you get touchen islam ..

[schattenfaust]

totaly agree hijab ban must lifted but also State has to protect secularism,because religion can be dangerous in the state.i cant understand you think we are not muslim:)we dont pray in mosques?

/watch?v=DrKeIJxc-G0 this film represent battle of filistin(based on true story).Turkish/Arab army launched bayonett attack because supply routes sabotaged by wahhabis.

from my family two sehid(martyr) sleeping over there.They choosing death instead of retreat for their life.They say Allah Allah

[3mkk]

ok protect secularism!

in usa, uk, spain and others they are secular country role but we see a lot of christains wearing christ, why not not in turkey and tunsia hijab band must be lifted it dose not effect anyone, also hijab band is against secularism, seculrism says give freedom all religion if they do not effect civil people, secularism mkes the country civil not against any religion!

i was wrong and told false information sorry brother.

i will watch the movie and then coment on it

salam

[satail]

no no in usa uk spain many people dont take religion so seriouysly at all

[3mkk]

mother is spanish from katalonia barcelone,, she`s a catholic converted to islam

and there are some secular christain and strict christains in spain !!!

[VlkClk]

uk isnt secular... that thing you call hijab is dangerous for schools universities etc is because they represent a religion. you cant either wear a pope costume in those places.

[3mkk]

look at this .. it made me cry ..

watch?v=QpUC45vugdY

israel get supported by turks, bosnain, albanain and other muslims against our poor palestinain brothers ..

inshalla palestine will return to palestinain ..

[schattenfaust]

ısrael doesnt supported by Turks its supported by Goverment and goverments doesnt represent us,

Just Type filistin in youtube all result is made by Turks,and please realize israel is exist because of arabian nationalism.

[3mkk]

we poor arabs are always hated and what make us mostly shocked and feel more sad that non-arab muslims hate us

why?

when isrel come they had a trained army we had sord they had guns with support from the west!

we are 350milion but nobody gave us gun to fight, all of the nations watched us fight with sord, they didnt ask ther self why we dont help our arabain brother in islam?

when we make a movement they say we are terorist, i mean hiszbalah movement caled teriosim and israel kiling not!

[3mkk]

why do you say arabs not all arabs jioned in the war maybe only 30% of arabs or less, many of arabs were against the arabain nationalism as saudia, kuwait and tunsia and others, you know my grandfather told in ww1 many of the arabs went to help turks but the english new how to take control in the arabain land and all this from that stupid wahabi, why shuold all arabs pay the wrong that was made by 30% of arabs ??

tomorrow fiday i will ask allah to protect and help us arabs and all muslims !!

[schattenfaust]

i know very well that Arabs fight with Turks against British but dont forget brother there is a arab legion whoo took down Muslim Flag in Jerusalem and thoose traitors today rule our Nations today.Arabian Nationalism is planned by British and Wahhabi's to divide muslim unity,they are succeed but today we all understand after IRAQ we need eachother more than anything.

[3mkk]

i think its just words not more , muslims after 1920 lost control , i think we will not unite until mehdi come , inshalla mehdi come soon and return palestine to muslim hands , there is one way we could unite otherwise by unting arabs and iranain and pakestanian first then jioning other muslims countries but i see it 98% impossible ,,

[satail]

come on life this day don`t believe in old stories

so muslims believe that mehdi will come christians believe that jesus will come back

these are just old stories

not truth

[3mkk]

i beleive in mehdi beacse i saw in my eyes the islmic wonders and i tasted the eman weathers which nothing bet then it !

[tyenuj]

Who the hell are you to tell people what is true and what is supersition. Just go back to your mediocre life and live it, if you have one that is :D

[satail]

and who are you?

go fuck yourself

[schattenfaust]

This maybe upset you but please watch it and please watch all parts.

/watch?v=bh6oCP40NjY

you will understand.if you loose your hope,they will win.

[3mkk]

i really have no hope as most arabs now current muslims are modern muslims who are against hijab, sunna and shia killing themself in iraq, muslims hate each other, muslims support jews against muslims, even muslims against islam!!

what should i expect?? why should i hope in our useless islamic ummah which is umah in name no more then that!! these days shia as add a religion sunna as a religion non of sunna and shia add them self in one religion!! i have no hope until mehdi comes!!!

[crrrlol]

secularism is bad for any country. Turkey is trying to fight back and balance Islamic teachings with western technology. AK is giving more freedom to oppressed Muslims in Turkey.

[numbersyesno]

Why aren't they giving more freedoms to women, gays, Christians and etc?

[crrrlol]

what freedom women need? women in turkey can go out, work, vote and do whatever they want. when it comes to christians and jews, there is not a law saying they can' do anything or practice their religion. gays are minority but turks don't really care about them. gay people take part in turkish movies.

[gateilli]

its good i like it KILL the turks nobody like turks in EU WHY?? cuz theyre all criminals and theyre muslims and when they hurth someone they always say i m muslim allah want me to do haha FUCKING TURKS

[SeCuLaRMuSLiM]

Learn how to spell, and follow the teaching of your prophet who came here to teach how to love! You must be such an embarrassment for him.

[myaser88]

VlkClk

such a credit you are to your family, your parents never taught you manners then ?, and for the record Turkiye is a pan continental country in both asia and europe. moron.

[VlkClk]

by the way fuck arab backstabbers and fuck terrorist aljazeera! fucking fundamental bastards!

[indulf]

The Deep State exists in the USA and UK as well. Operation Gladio involved NATO/CIA acts of terror in Turkey, Greece, Italy, Belgium etc., reportedly with the aim of promoting fascism. The Bologna Bomb (1980) is not all that different from the London Bombs or 9 11.

[Kalla61]

The begining of the end of the state called TURKEY.............

[VlkClk]

you wish arsehole..

[IustitiaPax]

I prefer Islamic moderated democracy which respects the rights of Christian minorities over the paranoid, once Freemasonry-inspired, extreme-nationalist, militaristic pro-secularist "elite" who want to run a banana's republic of secularism, racism and ethnic-Turkish supremacy - with invasions against Cyprus, Greece and other nations planned. The "secularists" also consider all non-Turkish states to be "enemies of Our Country". Paranoia. Give me Gül and a headscarf!

[admiral20055]

Turks have big complicity,cause there are not west,more to east ataturk is an idiot thought like donkey,he ismaybe a good commander but lauzy leader.nothing but divided the country by nationalist bullshit, in the name of democratic ,discriminate,Iran got better democratic then Turkey,sorry to say, rhe genarals are the bundits & the realy runers fo turkey

[nihatavc]

norway is very little nation witho no future germans wwill be invade it again and destroy norway (not interesting u turkish politic stupid gay)

[admiral20055]

Yeh we are small nation but democraic nationi am veryproud of NORWAY, THER ARE 15000 TURKS HERE,HERE WOMEN CAN WEARE DON,T WEAR NO PROBLEM,WHAT THE HELL IS SIC-ULER MAN,FREEDOM OF EXPRISON & MOVEMONT TO WEARE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ANY ONE,,THAT,S CALL DEMOCRATIC PRINSICALS,,TURKEY GOT,, JALE JALE DOMOCRATI ALL THE TIME ATATURKS DITRY ARMY ,DEMOLISM WEEKNEING DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM IN TURKEY...GO TO HELL WITH SICK-ULERS ATAS PUTAS

[somethingawful01]

It is not the government that is on trial but the entire society. This court case shows how strong the grip of the millitary is. The arrest of the 21 people they are accusing of treason and terrorism shows how confused Turkey is. Attaturk destroyed the identity of Turkey and now Turkey no longer is a part of the Middle East nor is it wanted or even liked in Europe. An old country ruined and in disarray because of fundamentalist secularists.

[turnbacktime]

turks have a strong cultural identity. if it was part of the middle east it would be poorer than it is today. i'm sorry but islam generally destroys societies, just compare india to pakistan.

[ikran2007]

islam never destroys societies but the usa and europe country destriys muslim country.

[turnbacktime]

look at somalia, mauritania, pakistan, afghanistan... these countries were some of the poorest in the world brfore being invaded by america or europe.

[khal200]

sorry but they're not doing any better.

[Tareq88]

None of theses countries are ruled by an Islamic government, you idiot. Neither is Turkey, and if you've actually met Turks in person, they stick to their religion and are practicing it.

[turnbacktime]

are you really that stupid... i said turkey WASNT ruled by an islamic government and thats exactly why it isnt anything like somalia, mauritania, pakistan or afghanistan.

[Tareq88]

As stupid as you? I don't think anyone can sink that low, because I never asserted you said Turkey was ruled by an Islamic government. Its government is just like other Muslim-majority countries where there is a separation of religion and politics.

No Muslim-majority country today is run by an Islamic government. Learn to think before you open your filthy mouth.

[turnbacktime]

are you dumb?

if i built a church in somalia, mauritania, pakistan, afghanistan would the government accept it?

[Tareq88]

I'm not sure why someone in the right mind would think about building a church in the middle of a warzone, (Afghanistan and Somalia both 99% Muslim), when millions of Muslims have been killed, thousands tortured, hundreds of Mosques destroyed, and Qurans desecrated by the occupying armies of the US, UK, Denmark, Poland, Canda, and Australia. Maybe the Church would do fine for the occupying war criminals inside the military green zones LOL.

[Tareq88]

NEWSFLASH, dummy:

There are already churches in Pakistan, like the Christ Church in Rawalpindi, St Philip's Church of Hyderabad, Saint Patrick's Cathedral in Karachi, and the St. John Church in Jhelum.

[ikran2007]

do u know why because leaders from the west can't stand to strong muslim leaders to say back of us/eu counrty. that they will run their country on their own with your in put.these countrys can't stand to see that, so they go on making up something to put their puppty onto power

[ikran2007]

this for turnbacktime

[misterchicitymayne]

@ikran2007 Islam drove away the Zoroastrian community from Iran and also drove away 300,000 Kashmiri Pandits from Jammu and Kashmir. Islam killed the Jews in Medina. Islam slaughtered and raped thousands of Hindus and Sikhs in India.

I agree West has also done these kinds of activities in Australia and North America. But don't say that Islam doesn't have any blood on its hands.

[ansar1919]

@misterchicitymayne

I don't know what history books you are reading, but your're dead washed. I won't be suprised because history is written by its winners. Study Islam deeply and see the justice it has brought that you can not experience "ONE HOUR" of that justice in today's so called 21st century world.

[ansar1919]

@misterchicitymayne

I don't know what history books you are reading, but your're brain dead washed. I won't be surprised because history is written by its winners. Study Islam deeply and see the justice it has brought that you can not experience "ONE HOUR" of that justice in today's so called 21st century world. 10 years from now, you will see some real Justice developing as more Muslims are coming back to the source.

[christosnikas]

noone is above the law

[VlkClk]

lol you guys are so gay... who you? world mp? Who said we want to be on m. east or europe? we dont give a fuck about eu or m. east. turkey is well known strong enough country itself.. Stop insulting our great leader and go lick your kings and queen ass!

[Sondre7]

Good report