The thing that cought my attention is when Dan said he experienced pain when bandages were being removed, and then later this experience led him to undertake scientific investigation, however perhaps if he wouldn't of experienced as much pain, maybe he wouldn't of achieved as much as he has, and maybe he wouldn't of been on TED.
What I'm trying to say is that - I have a hypothesis that negative experiences aren't all that bad and it might lead to great things for an individual in the future
There is most likely another factor influencing the nurse’s decision to remove the bandages fast. They may have a lot of patients and removing the bandages fast gives them more time to get their duties done with the other patients. In that sense having more nurses could alleviate the problem.
say i knew someone cheated me - but they used eg occult methods to do so, things that lies force us to have to pretend don't exist - or the same evil that causes that can take our few freedoms away from us (eg label you insane if you tell the truth about what they used to cheat you). so if used a more conventional (or any other kind) cheat to stop them cheating me, then that is ok, because it's only in response to an original wrong and otherwise i wouldn't need to do so.
morally & ethically etc it isn't ok to cheat, it's the same as how it isn't ok to lie. but - say you smoke weed. now lies have been used to make weed illegal in some places, so - if you have to lie about smoking/using weed then that isn't really a lie, since evil lies are to blame for making it illegal to begin with, so you may have to lie so your freedoms are not further removed or compromsied.
so where cheating or lies is the original cause...it's ok to use them against the original cause.
Sometimes when people create a reasoning after-the-fact, I'm unsure if they are creating an elaborate one for the sake of defending their position, or they truly analyzed the constituents of their own thoughts. I do find it quite pitiful that this behavior occurs, personally. Practically, it'd be beneficial to use such a behaviorism to manipulate the mass towards being less "destructive", although my romanticism on the intellect somewhat prefers people introspect their own thoughts. Good video.
@yenamarre100 What's OBVIOUS is that you're buying into a very stupid stereotype. And the entire point of this video is that my collegagues have the same principles as the vast majority of people so I'm a minority amongst everyone, not a minority amongst my co-workers. So just be honest with yourself that you don't know what you're talking about, for some reason you've got a low opinion of delivery drivers, and that you're completely missing the point of this video and my comments.
@yenamarre100 What are you talking about? I've done pizza delivery for 3 years now. I don't cheat because it's against my religious beliefs and that's that. And why wouldn't a pizza delivery driver watch this video? Are we not good enough? Not smart enough? What are you trying to say? But hey, good job derailing a comment that gives a good example of what Dan is saying and trying to psycho-analyze me.
I work doing pizza delivery and I see this every single day. My fellow drivers will immediately point out if a cashier gives them too much money back (when they cash in from a delivery) but then every single day they lie about how much they made in tips so they don't have to pay as much taxes. Every day. I'm the only driver out of 14 drivers that accurately reports my tips (I do so for many reasons). And they see absolutely NOTHING wrong with what they are doing.
13:14 is true, at least in my case. I've always been a stickler for rules but I've cheated on an exam w/ friends on my last year at elementary. I don't remember who started but I remember how I had such fun doing it: trying to suppress our giggles while passing pieces of crumpled cheat sheets under the nose of our myopic proctor. We could have easily passed that exam w/o cheating. We were confronted. Now I remember it w/ distaste. Truly "bad associations spoil useful habits." (Paul of Tarsus)
this guy is Amazing.... also, if anyone from Rolex is reading this..... I had to get up a pee in the middle of your commercial and I actually paused the video.... and then I thought, "you've never done that before." Normally I try to ignore commercials.... I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that you put the ad at the end of vid and actually gave me the option of not watching it... perhaps Mr. Areily could answer that question for me.
we are sooo fortunate to live in this age of science, to be able to sit down at a computer and enjoy these wonderful intellectuals and their incredible ideas from the comfort of our own home
@gorillagirlgorilla By definition, anything within your fudge factor is all right to you, but that doesn't mean it is acceptable to God or to anyone else.
@lavideomania That's not the point Dan was making here. He was pointing out that humans alter their sense of what's acceptable and what's not by the associations they have around them. This goes a long way to explaining why corporations act the way they do when their board members get together even if their board members are individually decent people. It's the collective that skews the behavior. Indirectly Dan also is showing why self governance fails because the goal posts keep moving!
@MrMaveri It's fine for Dan to make his point; I'm making mine. That's what comments are for. :)
As for picking on boards of corporations or collectives and blaming them for skews in behavior, I think that's a convenient story but it unethically removes the center of gravity for responsibility within the seat of conscious decision and consequence: the autonomous individual.
You: "self governance fails... the goal posts keep moving" Oh? Goal posts don't keep moving when others govern you?
WRT the nurses and the bandages - they frankly have more at stake than his pain. They have a limited amount of time, as well. They have an interest in taking less time, so they will tend to (even subconsciously) favour the fast method.
@ORCA4312 Also the issue of infection. Burned skin is notoriously susceptible to infection and in cases where third degree burn victims die it is almost always from infections due to lack of protective skin. I have seen someone who became septic and, trust me, the pain of bandage removal is a lot less painful than that.
That said his point on everything related to the ways we act and the cheating still stand - I will sometimes cheat to fool around and troll but not when money is on the line.
It's interesting that people would steal the Coke from the fridge but not the money as I see stealing the Coke as worse. Not only are you stealing the money that the person used to by the Coke with but you're also stealing the persons time that they spent buying the Coke from the shop.
@Experiment47 on the other hand when you go to your friends house its likely that both of you won't mind if you just grab a coke and help yourself but i'm sure you wouldn't do the same with the money.
@Experiment47 It is a psychological perspective thing. I see stealing money as worse than stealing a coke because money represents a degree of choice - I am not only taking someone else's money but I am supplanting their will with my own by limiting their options whereas with taking a coke I am just stealing a single choice they made. The former feels more disrespectful and severe somehow, since the line of casualty for my actions is more uncertain as the money hadn't been spent yet.
@Experiment47 Good point. I guess we see it in terms of the value to us, rather than the value to the victim. Money is inherently more useful (and thus valuable) than the equivalent object or service. Just ask a Pepsi drinker which he would rather have.
Great talk, this articulates some things i've been somehow aware of since highschool, but haven't analyzed in depth. The pain part surprised me a bit, and i guess it's a simplified summary of his tests, since i've found pain up to a certain threshold to be better than having it lessened and prolonged.
With regards to challenging our own intuitions, it's something i've done continually since i got my examen philosophicum, and since then have also noticed many people don't do it at all, and won't.
@gulllars I think it was also not just the threshold but also the duration. If you had to experience pain for 20 minutes or less for 30, the latter would be better. If its between 3 seconds and 10 seconds, chances are the former would be preferred.
So the big question is what mechanism or vehicle can be instituted into the political process to return integrity? Caucus process, Primary, Process, Election process, etc....there is so much endemic corruption in the system I'd like to hear proposals of mechanisms to do so..
It's not just the insights into our behaviour that are interesting. It's the story of his life, the burns, the infection he got in hospital that resulted in years of painful treatment and what he's gone on to achieve since. It's inspirational.
Just like Vernon Smith's conclusion that students who volunteer for psychological experiments are altruistic, I have to wonder whether the Professor, who is obviously on to something, controls for selection bias, response bias, etc.
If I was in that experiment with the 20 math problems, I would just say I got all 20 correct. No negative consequences (for anyone) if I cheat, and I get $200!
Unlikely. You'd get trouble with your conscience. While there is a chance that you don't, there is a more logical explanation. By posting this message, you show that you are willing to take a risk (you don't know what the experiment is about beforehand so it's a risk). Evolution made men risktakers, therefore females are attracted to risktakers. Which is why you show what a risktaker you are.
With other words, you post this message to Youtube to attract females. You're doin' it wrong mate.
@w3irdn3rd Wait, were you replying to me? I find it amusing that you think I'm some dude trying to attract females XD Hooray for unintentional sexism!
On that note, I change my mind. I wouldn't lie, because I'm a math geek and just out of a sense of honor (or vanity) I would insist on being truthful. Plus, I don't really like telling lies, they're rather inconvenient. And I don't much care about the money. Yeah, I suppose those are all reasons that have nothing to do with conscience.
I suspect one reason why nurses remove bandages quickly instead of slowly is because taking twice as long to do so would leave them with less time to do other things, which in turn would cause the hospital to have to hire more nurses, thus driving up costs for all patients. His experiment with the vice & other pain-causing devices completely ignored this factor.
@aarondrake33 - not preciecly. the experiments with pain was checking if its better for the paitent, not the nurses. therefor, it had to ignore this factor anyway. after proving its better dividing the pain (for the paitent), he went back to the nurses.
i am sure that the nurses that now know (and i will check, because i work in that exact hospital) that taking bandages off slowly is better, do so. thay dont take into consideration the time factor, but treat the patient as good as thay know.
After watching this video I just wanted to get this out I stole a twenty dollar bill from my own church when I was a little kid and I'm saddened that I did so. I subtly gave it back, but never actually told them I attempted to steal it. So for that I am very sorry.
you shouldn't feel bad about taking money from an institution like that (assuming your chirch is pretty average), i mean they are in the business of convincing people they have to give them money or they go to hell, the chirch then takes this money and invests it in convincing more people to pay up or burn
he basically tells you to not trust intuition. thats one of the major problems of society today. of course, he used the nurses example, but that was not intuition, that was just ignorance on her part. intuition is much more than what he claims to be. he is basically advocating blind trust on science, thats the hidden agenda.
I don't think he's saying not to trust intuition, just that we should take it with a grain of salt. It is impossible to scientifically analyze every decision we make to the fullest extent. If, however, we are aware of the types of biases to which we are subject as illuminated by his research, we will be able to make better decisions on the whole.
You're talking about trusting scientific fact. Trusting science, which is the form (or method, if you will) of this proof, is an irrational decision -- as is trusting any fundamental form of argumentation (rational, relegious etc) -- because the scientific method of inductive reasoning is provably unprovable. If you're intrested in this, you should check out David Hume's problem of induction.
Hume's problem of induction is a formality that in no way undermines the scientific method No reputable philosopher thinks otherwise, least of all Hume.
But tell me, what rival epistemic method do you endorse?.
"It's not so much that I have confidence in scientists being right, but rather that I have so much confidence in nonscientists being wrong."
what I find really funny, is that I'm a nursing student as well, and I think Mr. Ariely has a valid point. He isnt necessarily saying that we don't know what we are doing, but we need to listen to our patients some times instead of going off of intellect. My instructor made us watch this during class so we could get a more "ethical" outlook on patient care. honeebun, remember the difference of beneficence and nonmalificence. it may be doin good to go quick, but yet its doin harm as well
yea i know that i may have chosen the wrong words to say i took "personal offense" im just saying that sometimes the healthcare worker does know better. im not saying it was the best idea at the time, but people dont really realize what goes into working in a hospital and thats what annoys me i guess
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ok i take personal offense to this because i'm a nursing student. yes, them saying that "they knew the right way" was wrong, but i think that they do know what they are doing. first of all, if they "took breaks" as he said, bacteria from the air and surrounding area could infect his burns, which is precisely why he is bandaged up in the 1st place -- to prevent contamination. and spending 2 hours instead of 1? does he think he's the only patient in the hospital? think of others besides yourself.
The fella's got a point, though. It would have made more sense for the nurses to say that their methods were to save time and ensure the patient incurred no further risk, which was true; what they told him was that they were using the best method to minimize pain, which would be entirely false. Granted, there's no reason to take personal offense to a slight error in reasoning; the guy's not trying to point fingers, he's trying to prove a point.
ooooohh soo funny. get over yourself and realize there's better things to do than insult people over youtube. maybe you should take a walk in a healthcare worker's shoes before judging without knowing and sounding like a complete idiot.
people steel and cheat out of selfishness its a selfish act where you are not thinking of the other person(s). non the less a speech worth discussing.
Ppl are unaware of selfishness. Regularly, it takes someone else, an observer, to label selfishness just as ppl label what is beautiful.
Can actions still be selfish if no one's there to accuse? Answer's no. Why? Cuz selfishness is an idea, like "good" & "evil", a label to address acts & emotions.
standing ovations are almost non-existent as a mass response. It takes one audience member to make the move before the mass of individuals in the same group follow along... and even drag along those who might not necessarily agree that the performance deserved a standing ovation.
The conclusions drawn from his experiments with pain still don't correlate with the circumstances at the hospital. Although the pain a patient may experience is important, it's hardly ever the first factor considered in a medical process. Hospitals for burn victims are scarce and full. Time is of the essence. If she could remove those bandages quickly, without physical damage, she would still do so at the expense of the added pain.
I think the experiment was a bit flawed and the conclusions are misleading, I think the people cheated only a little bit because that is what they estimated that they could get away with.
IMO A more effective model would be to do periodic tests with the same subjects and different exams in these tests I would estimate that the frequency rise with time...
Excellent examination of how bad ideas look great at the time and later can be realized as completely wrong. As a real physician he finds a way of making solutions through sharing his findings.
As far as the examination of how does a culture of cheating grow, the casinos and
have long used displacement from money to make risk taking more likely.
Similarly those of the Elite know that there friends only value profit so whatever it takes for that end is applauded.
The thing that cought my attention is when Dan said he experienced pain when bandages were being removed, and then later this experience led him to undertake scientific investigation, however perhaps if he wouldn't of experienced as much pain, maybe he wouldn't of achieved as much as he has, and maybe he wouldn't of been on TED.
What I'm trying to say is that - I have a hypothesis that negative experiences aren't all that bad and it might lead to great things for an individual in the future
karolis685 2 weeks ago
@karolis685 That isn't a new or unique hypothesis. In fact, that has been common knowledge for millenia.
AcruxSolus 2 weeks ago
There is most likely another factor influencing the nurse’s decision to remove the bandages fast. They may have a lot of patients and removing the bandages fast gives them more time to get their duties done with the other patients. In that sense having more nurses could alleviate the problem.
jjgfun 3 weeks ago
wow i only recently found this channel, and i absolutely love it.
y3wt3wbz 1 month ago
commercial at the END of the vid, i like!
mindnumber9 1 month ago
A PERSONAL FUDGE FACTOR
PalerLaze 1 month ago
say i knew someone cheated me - but they used eg occult methods to do so, things that lies force us to have to pretend don't exist - or the same evil that causes that can take our few freedoms away from us (eg label you insane if you tell the truth about what they used to cheat you). so if used a more conventional (or any other kind) cheat to stop them cheating me, then that is ok, because it's only in response to an original wrong and otherwise i wouldn't need to do so.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
morally & ethically etc it isn't ok to cheat, it's the same as how it isn't ok to lie. but - say you smoke weed. now lies have been used to make weed illegal in some places, so - if you have to lie about smoking/using weed then that isn't really a lie, since evil lies are to blame for making it illegal to begin with, so you may have to lie so your freedoms are not further removed or compromsied.
so where cheating or lies is the original cause...it's ok to use them against the original cause.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
\this guy is a fucking genius, I love genuiuses
RobT89 2 months ago
the commercial at the end of the video is weird.
cheko7550 3 months ago
Sometimes when people create a reasoning after-the-fact, I'm unsure if they are creating an elaborate one for the sake of defending their position, or they truly analyzed the constituents of their own thoughts. I do find it quite pitiful that this behavior occurs, personally. Practically, it'd be beneficial to use such a behaviorism to manipulate the mass towards being less "destructive", although my romanticism on the intellect somewhat prefers people introspect their own thoughts. Good video.
ACANOFSODA 3 months ago
why the fuck is egoraptor in the top comment
seriously
i hate his little fucking army.
DevilishMew 3 months ago
@DevilishMew WELCOME TO YOUTUBE
oopsIdidasuper 3 months ago
@oopsIdidasuper
It was more of a rhetorical question than anything. 35 PEOPLE MUST LIKE JUSTIN BIEBER AM I RIGHT AM I RIGHT
DevilishMew 3 months ago
Genius!
phaerless 3 months ago
TED <3
dragonfilth13 3 months ago
Is it funny? I want to watch a comedian
strobelights9 3 months ago
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omgtkseth 3 months ago
i don't get how they caught them cheating. the
AnDaLe437 3 months ago
Napoleon clearly hasn't been to waterloo in a while.
oxycodo 3 months ago
Whoa... that was eye opening...
2gq4u69 3 months ago
Egoraptor knows his shit
patrickallen13 3 months ago 56
I love TED.
CanadiensUnplugged 3 months ago
Napoleon Bonaparte is an immortal
beezerboy94 4 months ago
@yenamarre100 What's OBVIOUS is that you're buying into a very stupid stereotype. And the entire point of this video is that my collegagues have the same principles as the vast majority of people so I'm a minority amongst everyone, not a minority amongst my co-workers. So just be honest with yourself that you don't know what you're talking about, for some reason you've got a low opinion of delivery drivers, and that you're completely missing the point of this video and my comments.
matrixinterface 4 months ago
Yeah, Mr. Bean is right! I promise not to cheat any more!
desormais 4 months ago 5
it's pretty clear that women can be 3 times more irrational than men.
biakuya 5 months ago
@yenamarre100 Someone woke on the wrong side of bed.
glitchnoise 5 months ago
This reminds of Freud's Super Ego, Ego, and ID theory.
glitchnoise 5 months ago
how many G forces can those watches withstand? ("commercial" at the end of the vid)
neurel111 5 months ago
@yenamarre100 What are you talking about? I've done pizza delivery for 3 years now. I don't cheat because it's against my religious beliefs and that's that. And why wouldn't a pizza delivery driver watch this video? Are we not good enough? Not smart enough? What are you trying to say? But hey, good job derailing a comment that gives a good example of what Dan is saying and trying to psycho-analyze me.
matrixinterface 5 months ago
Mindblowing!
timbolee 6 months ago
wow what a genuine person, awesome lecture.
CircusOfBedlam 6 months ago
I work doing pizza delivery and I see this every single day. My fellow drivers will immediately point out if a cashier gives them too much money back (when they cash in from a delivery) but then every single day they lie about how much they made in tips so they don't have to pay as much taxes. Every day. I'm the only driver out of 14 drivers that accurately reports my tips (I do so for many reasons). And they see absolutely NOTHING wrong with what they are doing.
matrixinterface 6 months ago
@matrixinterface It is morally easier to cheat 'The Government' or 'The Man' than a co-worker or friend.
Good example, and I commend you on your integrity.
ORCA4312 3 months ago
@ORCA4312 Thank you, my point exactly.
matrixinterface 3 months ago
Did I see a Bill Clinton clip at the beginning, as if HE did a TED talk?
CatFlashBlue 6 months ago 2
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isthissnfree 6 months ago
Woah this is one smart guy. Its great to just hear so much sense oozing from a human
charlieocheerio 7 months ago
I Love it so muuuccch that I'm going to share this..! Thank you for the post..!
RAINBOWMATRIXS1 8 months ago
one of the best TED talks ive seen in a while
Seagerash 9 months ago
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crcas50 10 months ago
13:14 is true, at least in my case. I've always been a stickler for rules but I've cheated on an exam w/ friends on my last year at elementary. I don't remember who started but I remember how I had such fun doing it: trying to suppress our giggles while passing pieces of crumpled cheat sheets under the nose of our myopic proctor. We could have easily passed that exam w/o cheating. We were confronted. Now I remember it w/ distaste. Truly "bad associations spoil useful habits." (Paul of Tarsus)
TheRonMorales 10 months ago
this guy is Amazing.... also, if anyone from Rolex is reading this..... I had to get up a pee in the middle of your commercial and I actually paused the video.... and then I thought, "you've never done that before." Normally I try to ignore commercials.... I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that you put the ad at the end of vid and actually gave me the option of not watching it... perhaps Mr. Areily could answer that question for me.
victav 10 months ago 6
Does anyone know how often third degree burn victims have nurses replace their bandages?
theendofconfusion 11 months ago
I may be asking an obvious question, but what does TED stand for?
008fox 11 months ago
@008fox technology entertainment design I believe
jstring6969 11 months ago
@008fox
Technology, Entertainment, Design...
SociologyProfessor 9 months ago
I am never going to steal a pen from work again.
dragonamt 11 months ago 5
@dragonamt unless_there-is-someone-with-a-pitsburg-t-shirt
lol
Hernanpfl 11 months ago
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jstring6969 11 months ago
we are sooo fortunate to live in this age of science, to be able to sit down at a computer and enjoy these wonderful intellectuals and their incredible ideas from the comfort of our own home
hempartist420 11 months ago 73
i dont understand who on earth could hate this stuff !!!
tinytang02 1 year ago
Ok so is it all right for us to cheat within our fudge factor?
gorillagirlgorilla 1 year ago
@gorillagirlgorilla By definition, anything within your fudge factor is all right to you, but that doesn't mean it is acceptable to God or to anyone else.
lavideomania 1 year ago
@lavideomania That's not the point Dan was making here. He was pointing out that humans alter their sense of what's acceptable and what's not by the associations they have around them. This goes a long way to explaining why corporations act the way they do when their board members get together even if their board members are individually decent people. It's the collective that skews the behavior. Indirectly Dan also is showing why self governance fails because the goal posts keep moving!
MrMaveri 11 months ago
@MrMaveri It's fine for Dan to make his point; I'm making mine. That's what comments are for. :)
As for picking on boards of corporations or collectives and blaming them for skews in behavior, I think that's a convenient story but it unethically removes the center of gravity for responsibility within the seat of conscious decision and consequence: the autonomous individual.
You: "self governance fails... the goal posts keep moving" Oh? Goal posts don't keep moving when others govern you?
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bolgendolki 1 year ago
if i could personally make a visit to the 33 retarted people who disliked this video, i would.
xkrypton 1 year ago
WRT the nurses and the bandages - they frankly have more at stake than his pain. They have a limited amount of time, as well. They have an interest in taking less time, so they will tend to (even subconsciously) favour the fast method.
ORCA4312 1 year ago
@ORCA4312
also they need to tend to other patients.
TheRtjhe 1 year ago
@ORCA4312 Also the issue of infection. Burned skin is notoriously susceptible to infection and in cases where third degree burn victims die it is almost always from infections due to lack of protective skin. I have seen someone who became septic and, trust me, the pain of bandage removal is a lot less painful than that.
That said his point on everything related to the ways we act and the cheating still stand - I will sometimes cheat to fool around and troll but not when money is on the line.
Cajaquarius 3 months ago
It's interesting that people would steal the Coke from the fridge but not the money as I see stealing the Coke as worse. Not only are you stealing the money that the person used to by the Coke with but you're also stealing the persons time that they spent buying the Coke from the shop.
Experiment47 1 year ago
@Experiment47 but like he said, it's a step away from cash. therefore easier to not feel bad about it.
xkrypton 1 year ago
@Experiment47 on the other hand when you go to your friends house its likely that both of you won't mind if you just grab a coke and help yourself but i'm sure you wouldn't do the same with the money.
iandy4 1 year ago
@Experiment47 It is a psychological perspective thing. I see stealing money as worse than stealing a coke because money represents a degree of choice - I am not only taking someone else's money but I am supplanting their will with my own by limiting their options whereas with taking a coke I am just stealing a single choice they made. The former feels more disrespectful and severe somehow, since the line of casualty for my actions is more uncertain as the money hadn't been spent yet.
Cajaquarius 3 months ago
@Experiment47 Good point. I guess we see it in terms of the value to us, rather than the value to the victim. Money is inherently more useful (and thus valuable) than the equivalent object or service. Just ask a Pepsi drinker which he would rather have.
ORCA4312 3 months ago
Great talk, this articulates some things i've been somehow aware of since highschool, but haven't analyzed in depth. The pain part surprised me a bit, and i guess it's a simplified summary of his tests, since i've found pain up to a certain threshold to be better than having it lessened and prolonged.
With regards to challenging our own intuitions, it's something i've done continually since i got my examen philosophicum, and since then have also noticed many people don't do it at all, and won't.
gulllars 1 year ago
@gulllars I think it was also not just the threshold but also the duration. If you had to experience pain for 20 minutes or less for 30, the latter would be better. If its between 3 seconds and 10 seconds, chances are the former would be preferred.
ghandiwon 1 year ago
cool
naybobdenod 1 year ago
Sigh... I always have these intuitions I'm right.. Why does investigating my intuitions almost always prove me wrong.. sigh.
Great talk! The best of TED..
8DX 1 year ago
@8DX Yes. This is the second video of this guy I have seen, and they have both been very good.
ORCA4312 1 year ago
33 people cheated by thumbing down this video
ALPHADESIGNTAMPICO 1 year ago 2
wow one of the best from TEDtalks!
TheJovanist 1 year ago
So the big question is what mechanism or vehicle can be instituted into the political process to return integrity? Caucus process, Primary, Process, Election process, etc....there is so much endemic corruption in the system I'd like to hear proposals of mechanisms to do so..
majik2hanz 1 year ago
im too high for this rite now.
glennmc300 1 year ago
its not all ted talks its just Dan Ariely!!!
tinimakoo 1 year ago
It's not just the insights into our behaviour that are interesting. It's the story of his life, the burns, the infection he got in hospital that resulted in years of painful treatment and what he's gone on to achieve since. It's inspirational.
Ainznando 1 year ago
Friggin' fabulous!
ruthiekal 1 year ago
I want this guy to be happy.
RBSM100 1 year ago 6
Why does youtube keep changing the layout? It`s getting annoying!
paolo27th 1 year ago 6
He gave a talk to some students today about cheating. I'm glad I was there! Hopefully I'll see him at Duke some time in the next few years...
wetterdew 1 year ago
Personal fudge factor. HAHA! He's pretty damn smart and funny.
sylvergyrl 1 year ago
Just like Vernon Smith's conclusion that students who volunteer for psychological experiments are altruistic, I have to wonder whether the Professor, who is obviously on to something, controls for selection bias, response bias, etc.
Wormtail81 1 year ago
Sistematic testing of our intuitions
PauloNideck 2 years ago
pain suit
cheeseit126 2 years ago 3
I´m raising my level of cheating every day now. Thanks for the advice!
lllMarlboroManlll 2 years ago
haha! xD
Raph333 2 years ago
If I was in that experiment with the 20 math problems, I would just say I got all 20 correct. No negative consequences (for anyone) if I cheat, and I get $200!
geistjagerin 2 years ago
that is if you've known that you can cheat and get money without hearing this lecture?
grizlero 2 years ago
Unlikely. You'd get trouble with your conscience. While there is a chance that you don't, there is a more logical explanation. By posting this message, you show that you are willing to take a risk (you don't know what the experiment is about beforehand so it's a risk). Evolution made men risktakers, therefore females are attracted to risktakers. Which is why you show what a risktaker you are.
With other words, you post this message to Youtube to attract females. You're doin' it wrong mate.
w3irdn3rd 1 year ago 2
@w3irdn3rd Wait, were you replying to me? I find it amusing that you think I'm some dude trying to attract females XD Hooray for unintentional sexism!
On that note, I change my mind. I wouldn't lie, because I'm a math geek and just out of a sense of honor (or vanity) I would insist on being truthful. Plus, I don't really like telling lies, they're rather inconvenient. And I don't much care about the money. Yeah, I suppose those are all reasons that have nothing to do with conscience.
geistjagerin 1 year ago
Excellent. That standing ovation was well deserved.
unfoldingart 2 years ago 2
This guy's great - I'm buying his book today.
AlVesuvius 2 years ago 2
talk about predictable irrationality!
sexiestbutler 2 years ago
Interesting creatures, humans are ;)
djbanizza 2 years ago 2
that dudes gangsta!!! :)
OnceSavedTheWorld 2 years ago
I suspect one reason why nurses remove bandages quickly instead of slowly is because taking twice as long to do so would leave them with less time to do other things, which in turn would cause the hospital to have to hire more nurses, thus driving up costs for all patients. His experiment with the vice & other pain-causing devices completely ignored this factor.
aarondrake33 2 years ago
@aarondrake33 - not preciecly. the experiments with pain was checking if its better for the paitent, not the nurses. therefor, it had to ignore this factor anyway. after proving its better dividing the pain (for the paitent), he went back to the nurses.
i am sure that the nurses that now know (and i will check, because i work in that exact hospital) that taking bandages off slowly is better, do so. thay dont take into consideration the time factor, but treat the patient as good as thay know.
AlonSandler 2 years ago
If I was gay, I'd definitely go for him!
92678tcm 2 years ago
saying that leads me to believe that you are.
odarkeq 2 years ago
genio
Mijavitz 2 years ago
genii
shakeyourdimsims 2 years ago
Awesome!
VantekHG 2 years ago
Wow!
This guy is my new: "cool person/ thing/ topic i look up and study on the internet"
670Kiester 2 years ago 4
HAHAHA this is good for all of life not just for socio economics
Megzm6 2 years ago
Great man. On the other hand if the nurses would try their intuition and reduce his pain, he would not giving this informative and interesting talk.
alexnelly 2 years ago 3
good stuff
jones13186 2 years ago
WOW, the guy is awesome. VERY interesting and informative.
youngnewtonian 2 years ago 72
@youngnewtonian your a wobat
success4111 1 year ago
After watching this video I just wanted to get this out I stole a twenty dollar bill from my own church when I was a little kid and I'm saddened that I did so. I subtly gave it back, but never actually told them I attempted to steal it. So for that I am very sorry.
TheAmefist 2 years ago
you shouldn't feel bad about taking money from an institution like that (assuming your chirch is pretty average), i mean they are in the business of convincing people they have to give them money or they go to hell, the chirch then takes this money and invests it in convincing more people to pay up or burn
lwanatt 2 years ago 3
I still do it's been bugging me for years although some churches are unethical I mean it just doesn't feel right.
TheAmefist 2 years ago
lol
LamaPaj 2 years ago
Simply amazing .. !!
jaydesh9 2 years ago
I love tedtalks. Each and every time I watch one I'm astounded and impressed. I also feel like I'm a better person for having watch them.
Esoparagon 2 years ago 123
@Esoparagon
Same here man, same here.
MRSketch09 2 years ago
@Esoparagon or do you think you feel like you're a better person? or do you think your think you feel like a better person?
my point is; is this guys argument: recursion in thought?
TheJmangeri 1 year ago
@Esoparagon another good thing is that u dont really learn from ted, u just discover traits that are already inside of u
USAFSmiley87 1 year ago
@Esoparagon You are so gay
PsySwitch1983 1 year ago
@PsySwitch1983 How do you know?! xD lol
MrSimon002 1 year ago
@MrSimon002 That comment is just a total load of cock sucking
PsySwitch1983 1 year ago
@PsySwitch1983 Let me guess; you're the only gay in the village? xD
Where someone's mouth is full of, the heart drips over...I think you're the biggest cock-lurper on this planet, am I right? lol
MrSimon002 1 year ago
BIg Words!
ichigo36093 2 years ago
cool.
ceeceetv 2 years ago
i agree with the rolex part
ch33k 2 years ago
Excellent presentation.
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bethaprivttee 2 years ago
Excellent talk, delivered very professionally.
ZsoltTorok 2 years ago 6
wow, i was loving the speech, but in the end i finally understood the hidden agenda. sad
RARB1977 2 years ago
What hidden agenda? I thought the speech was excellent and that he did a very good job of keeping neutral.
a42579 2 years ago
he basically tells you to not trust intuition. thats one of the major problems of society today. of course, he used the nurses example, but that was not intuition, that was just ignorance on her part. intuition is much more than what he claims to be. he is basically advocating blind trust on science, thats the hidden agenda.
RARB1977 2 years ago
I don't think he's saying not to trust intuition, just that we should take it with a grain of salt. It is impossible to scientifically analyze every decision we make to the fullest extent. If, however, we are aware of the types of biases to which we are subject as illuminated by his research, we will be able to make better decisions on the whole.
a42579 2 years ago 5
i agree with your perspective, but i'm not so sure that's what he meant ;)
RARB1977 2 years ago
We cannot know what perhaps he had in his mind.
Take the facts of what he said into your consideration.
That`s well enough.
IbnAlla 2 years ago
there is no such thing has "blind trust on science" since science requires proof
johnzero7 2 years ago 5
You're talking about trusting scientific fact. Trusting science, which is the form (or method, if you will) of this proof, is an irrational decision -- as is trusting any fundamental form of argumentation (rational, relegious etc) -- because the scientific method of inductive reasoning is provably unprovable. If you're intrested in this, you should check out David Hume's problem of induction.
Nietzschttgenstein 2 years ago
You have any evidence or logic to back that up?
ForOrAgainstUs 2 years ago
Postmodernist asshat alert!
Hume's problem of induction is a formality that in no way undermines the scientific method No reputable philosopher thinks otherwise, least of all Hume.
But tell me, what rival epistemic method do you endorse?.
"It's not so much that I have confidence in scientists being right, but rather that I have so much confidence in nonscientists being wrong."
-Isaac Asimov
polymath7 2 years ago
i love the way he is so rational and can make so much sense
i actually found this particular talk deeply moving and it had very little to do with him talking about his painful past
teobesta 2 years ago
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A sterile re-statement of two simple principles: 1. The argument from authority is a logical fallacy.
2. Check your assumptions against observations.
That's it. I've just saved you 20 minutes.
Subutubiata 2 years ago
That's it. You're a retard who thinks he's smart.
Finiras 2 years ago 3
oh, read this guys book, predictably irrational
BrutticusForce 2 years ago
g e n i u s
cheatdath 2 years ago 2
wow ur a faggot
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turewarrior0 2 years ago
what I find really funny, is that I'm a nursing student as well, and I think Mr. Ariely has a valid point. He isnt necessarily saying that we don't know what we are doing, but we need to listen to our patients some times instead of going off of intellect. My instructor made us watch this during class so we could get a more "ethical" outlook on patient care. honeebun, remember the difference of beneficence and nonmalificence. it may be doin good to go quick, but yet its doin harm as well
sgttweak 2 years ago 5
yea i know that i may have chosen the wrong words to say i took "personal offense" im just saying that sometimes the healthcare worker does know better. im not saying it was the best idea at the time, but people dont really realize what goes into working in a hospital and thats what annoys me i guess
honeebun 2 years ago 2
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Wow, nurses are really dumb.
DarwynJackson 2 years ago
wow you're really an asshole.
honeebun 2 years ago 2
wow i think there's a chance honeebun might be missing the entire point of this haha
fedora81 2 years ago
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ok i take personal offense to this because i'm a nursing student. yes, them saying that "they knew the right way" was wrong, but i think that they do know what they are doing. first of all, if they "took breaks" as he said, bacteria from the air and surrounding area could infect his burns, which is precisely why he is bandaged up in the 1st place -- to prevent contamination. and spending 2 hours instead of 1? does he think he's the only patient in the hospital? think of others besides yourself.
honeebun 2 years ago
Oh no! You're offended to something on the internet!!
Get over it.
ABurns9 2 years ago 3
The fella's got a point, though. It would have made more sense for the nurses to say that their methods were to save time and ensure the patient incurred no further risk, which was true; what they told him was that they were using the best method to minimize pain, which would be entirely false. Granted, there's no reason to take personal offense to a slight error in reasoning; the guy's not trying to point fingers, he's trying to prove a point.
XShadowFlareX 2 years ago 5
ooooohh soo funny. get over yourself and realize there's better things to do than insult people over youtube. maybe you should take a walk in a healthcare worker's shoes before judging without knowing and sounding like a complete idiot.
honeebun 2 years ago
people steel and cheat out of selfishness its a selfish act where you are not thinking of the other person(s). non the less a speech worth discussing.
Shainao 2 years ago
Simplify that even more, your point.
Ppl are unaware of selfishness. Regularly, it takes someone else, an observer, to label selfishness just as ppl label what is beautiful.
Can actions still be selfish if no one's there to accuse? Answer's no. Why? Cuz selfishness is an idea, like "good" & "evil", a label to address acts & emotions.
Efferts 2 years ago
I want this man to be part of writing our economic law. it should be rewritten, or abolish the ignorance in the system all together.
identityz3ro 2 years ago
Now, apply the theory to audience:
standing ovations are almost non-existent as a mass response. It takes one audience member to make the move before the mass of individuals in the same group follow along... and even drag along those who might not necessarily agree that the performance deserved a standing ovation.
saglek 2 years ago
wow... looks pretty good for 70% of body burnt.
praling 2 years ago
It's noticeable, but not fleshy and amorphous like you see other times.
WhoKnewOfTheStorm6 2 years ago
in reference to his comment on teachers pay. perhaps do some tests by paying teachers more. see what happens
Canonsnob 2 years ago
Why we think it's OK to steal... then it opens with Rolex lol(im probably the only one who found that funny)
car000333 2 years ago 3
thats because you're soooooooooo clever huh
Retsknarp 2 years ago
Very important point at the end. We need more politicians that think like this guy.
Cannibalzz 2 years ago
I read his book,...great read!
Victor Antonio
salesasylum 2 years ago
The conclusions drawn from his experiments with pain still don't correlate with the circumstances at the hospital. Although the pain a patient may experience is important, it's hardly ever the first factor considered in a medical process. Hospitals for burn victims are scarce and full. Time is of the essence. If she could remove those bandages quickly, without physical damage, she would still do so at the expense of the added pain.
The wallstreet relationship was awful.
b.e. != scientist
frywater 2 years ago
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why do i get the feeling you are right wing?
roflolsaurus 2 years ago
I never wanna find out how burn victims feel, but i think he must have a reasonable insight having been through 70 percent burns himself
Eldritchard 2 years ago
The "brand loyalty" displayed in the Carnegie Mellon and Universty of Pittsburgh sweatshirt example is fascinating!
1000orsowords 2 years ago 2
interesting to see a few people in the crowd get up, then a few others, then the rest kinda standing up only coz it's the done thing to do.
good ole flock mentality, no one wants to be left out
kahnicles 2 years ago 3
I think the experiment was a bit flawed and the conclusions are misleading, I think the people cheated only a little bit because that is what they estimated that they could get away with.
IMO A more effective model would be to do periodic tests with the same subjects and different exams in these tests I would estimate that the frequency rise with time...
MrLesWhite 2 years ago
Excellent examination of how bad ideas look great at the time and later can be realized as completely wrong. As a real physician he finds a way of making solutions through sharing his findings.
As far as the examination of how does a culture of cheating grow, the casinos and
have long used displacement from money to make risk taking more likely.
Similarly those of the Elite know that there friends only value profit so whatever it takes for that end is applauded.
Checks a balances work.
laurasIs2c 2 years ago 3
This just proves to me we DO need an external source of accountability and it IS NOT the government. hidy ho
kirkeidson 2 years ago
Absolutely brilliant speaker.
agpshadow 2 years ago 2
This really drives home the influence of example, & we need to be careful what behavior we model to the people around us.
salmagundiEnsemble 2 years ago 2
wow, I'm impressed
thumb023 2 years ago