This is for badboybori... I guess you didn't understand my initial comment. Your incoherent ramblings just prove my point. Btw your truther talking point are a bit dated. Anywho you are a waste of time for me toodles :)
It has already been proven that the event is IMPOSSIBLE. You can NOT even come close to explaining the IMPOSSIBLE, so keep trying you PRO LIFE HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!
Well I keep looking and keep finding stuff. In the first hit on the north tower. I call it the original squib I guess. At the moment the fireball is growing on the face of the tower, at the very top few floors near the center, a puff of smoke isolated from the main ball of fire and smoke. Must have been an upwardly pancaking floor cause that? Looks like a separate explosion maybe 2 or 3 seconds after first plane strike.911 is not over!
Chandler states that the "explosions" keep pace with the falling debris. So the question is if this were a controlled demolition why set off the explosions in such a way as to raise questions? Again under any kind of scrutiny truther arguments fall apart. I think the following is particularly appropriate for truthers
@Physman2011 how else can you control demo a building to make it look like fire did that? It would make sense that controlled demo of the towers were ultimately organized under compartmentalization, in this case it is your best bet to comply with existing methods and not endorse video footage such as this.
@Roonoon2 : YOU REALLY ARE A RETARD. There was WAY TO MUCH ASH in the demise of the twin towers to blame it on a natural collapse. Look up the definition of a CD.
If I were to take a bulldozer & knock a building down it would be considered a CD you NIT.
All it means is that you are controlling how something is demolished.
Learn the definition of a phrase b4 you speak knowledge of it. The debate of a 767 flying 590mph @ SEA LEVEL can never fall apart b/c it is beyond impossible.
@BadBoriBoy hey man I'm absolutely with you I share the same opinion. I was just trying to justify why the CD of the towers were so obvious. Can I suggest you put the insults aside when you debate, kindergarten insults are usually used by those who try to protect the official version because they really have very little to go by.
@Roonoon2 : The comment was not directed at you. It was directed at Physman. The insults are 100% necessary. I started editing & fully producing video as a Freshman in high school. I had the OMG sound clip from the Naudet Brothers clip prior to 911. The same exact sound effect,
@Physman2011 : Why do film directors use their B rolls with mistakes when the A stack has none?!?! Because it's a fucking movie. An act of deception.
Only retards would oppose this vid. Nothing with the event adds up. Basic common sense will tell you that. There is no such thing as Islamic terrorism in the US.
WAKE UP!!!! The event is BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE!!! A 767 can not fly 590mph @ SEA LEVEL. A 767 can NOT dissolve into a steel/concrete building in 1 piece. You are quite the RETARD!!!
Search and watch Dimitri Khalezov explaining how such a nuclear detonation takes place and how it makes perfect sense to how the towers collapsed. Spread the word, and at least watch the videos completely before posting a comment.
Nuclear detonation underground explains how the bottom of the towers turned basically into dust. There is no other explanation of how the towers produced so much dust at simply free fail speed. Towers cannot produce so much dust when collapsing, only if there was a nuclear explosion underground reaching the towers from the bottom upwards can pulverize the bottom half of the towers producing so much dust while the top remains intact pushing downwards falling on the weak bottom.
If that were the case you would see 60 of those going off across each side of the building. One charge does not a CD make. And on a building this large this statement is even more absurd. One charge large enough to be cutting the internal MASSIVE columns would blow a hell of allot more than dust. It would shatter every window out in the vicinity easily. None of that is going on.
Don't be fooled by people on YT who think they know what they are talking about.
@zelenko2 LOL!! Tell you what. Go and call up a demo company and tell them you plan on using this stuff for a CD. See how fast it takes them to laugh your ass out the door.
NO ONE would use Thermite for a CD. You don't cut major load bearing columns with a couple of buckets of Thermite. A ridiculous story.
@zelenko2 LOL!! Does everyone here put on their stupid hat when they talk about this stuff? Seems so.
Dude. What just piled itself in to the very corner in question?. 155 feet of aluminum the jet!!. Which has a ridiculously low melting point. And a couple of dripping sparks on one column is not going to collapse a building that has 244 exterior columns.
@roquefortfiles it is not aluminummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... aluminum is silver even when its melted... this is molten steeeeeeeel... google molten steel and molten aluminum... :))))))))))
@roquefortfiles read ur coments and my coments one after another... and see where have u come... and by the way whats up with that googling molten steel an molten aluminum????
@roquefortfiles ohhhh... poor americans... do some research... whatch some loose change movies.... whatch the cia asset whistleblower speaking out loudly... i mean u gotta be blind if u dont see it was all planned... biggest false flag operation ever done by usa
@zelenko2 No CD tech would ever use that material to do that. If you think formed steel columns are going to be melted thru with a few buckets of Thermite.. you're on crack. 244 exterior columns? 47 interior columns? A floor that is an acre across?
Who are you kidding here? Had this REALLY taken place you would have dripping melted slag running down the steel beams. It would smack you across the face it would be so obvious.
Its not resulting in a few micro "nano" particles.
@roquefortfiles all know it nowadays.. why dont they show u the cameras... a lot of people being threatened not to talk about bombs in towers.. almost freefall colapse... pod atached under the plane... hijackers still alive... all cameras at pentagon confiscated by fbi... people telling they saw plane flying over pentagon and just before releasing a misle with wings.. all planes seen after the officially crashed... 911 comission failed becouse comissioners were shocked when they knew the truth
@zelenko2 pod atached under the plane.??? (Um.. its called the landing gear cowling!! its supposed to be there!!)... LOL!!
The NTSB have the data recorder from the plane at the Pentagon. You can go to their web page and read the parameters of it. They also recovered everyone that was on the plane and ID'd all of them. Hijackers included thru process of elimination.
Don't be another Sept 11th Youtube idiot my friend. There are far far too many of them.
@zelenko2 pod atached under the plane.??? (Um.. its called the landing gear cowling!! its supposed to be there!!)... LOL!!
The NTSB have the data recorder from the plane at the Pentagon. You can go to their web page and read the parameters of it. They also recovered everyone that was on the plane and ID'd all of them. Hijackers included thru process of elimination.
Don't be another Sept 11th Youtube idiot my friend. There are far far too many of them.
and its not the landing gear cowling... its an 3d object... when the plane hits the fasade of wtc it leaves a mark... there is a video clearly showing it... ever heard of northwoods operation... :)))))))) the hitting planes were drones buddy
@zelenko2 Um.. the landing gear cowling is 3D. I know photographers who shot that plane. Seen close up images of it. There is nothing on the bottom of it that isn't normally there.
Lisa Frost was on United 175. They found her air miles card from her back pocket and a portion of her hip in debris. It was returned to her family.
@roquefortfiles u dont understand what i just said.. the pod on the bottom left a mark on the fasade... its clearly on the right side of the plane boddy... it is clearly seen on the fasade... and how can u belive that they found the card on ground zero... when everything was manipulated by goverment
@zelenko2 u dont understand what i just said.. (You got that right!!).
I know aircraft very well. I have seen close video of the jet as well as still photography (Which is what i do for a living). There is nothing on the bottom of that plane that isn't supposed to be there. There ain't no pod!! and people who think they see a "POD" don't understand what the hell they are looking at.
Manipulated by the Government? The story was from her family. Not the Government.
@roquefortfiles look man... did u see the mark on the fasade... its a clear proof that there was pod... the mark on the fasadeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dude... the object let mark on the fasade for christ sake... yeah the family got the card back.. so this is proof that her body was found at ground zero... bullshit... the familly just got card which is not proof that the body was there
@zelenko2 Oh.. ok.. Peter Hanson was also on U 175. His family also got some remains back.
Yeah I've seen the facade. A big honking hole from a jet. I've also seen high quality still photography of that jet. There is nothing on the bottom of it. Other than the landing gear cowlings.. which are supposed to be there. And i know Jets VERY well.
btw.. There is a museum in NY showing the plane debris. Its a UNITED JET. Its not a drone!!
@roquefortfiles and u actually belive what is in that freaking fucking museummmm... u belive that those parts are from groung zero... when the ground zero debres werer removed imediatly as fast as they could and transpoted to china for recycle...
@roquefortfiles what are u trying to say "going nowhere fast"... they removed the stuff on ground zero as fast as they could... they are even chasing a fema fotograpfher that has some proof of melting steel flowing lika lava... if u dont want to know the truth than i can not help u... u just dont want to know the truth... these are facts that im telling u and u just keep in ur mind that it was not goverment... i mean how old are u?????
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
@roquefortfiles That's simply not true. Much of the site of completely sealed and off-limits to all but federal officials and those they permitted on site. I'm speaking of FEMA investigators. None of these were investigated chemical traces, no such investigations occurred. The clean up was done in amazing speed. Of course, not over a weekend, but in a super rushed manner and typical crime scene protocols were simply not followed. The idiot is you. Living in denial doesn't change reality
@thamnosma Give me a break for Christs sake!! The buildings were 1 million tons in total. No matter how many ways you want to slice this its not mopped up and trucked out in a weekend. Absolutely ridiculous!!.
And sorry but explosive residues etc are a moot point. Had it been done (Controlled Demolition) there would be debris of that EVERYWHERE. Looking for a bit of chemical on a column would be the LEAST of your worries.
@roquefortfiles one million tons turn to dust in 11 seconds. Believe what you will, man. Collapses unknown to engineering, not once but 3 times in one day. Yeah, physicists, architects and engineers know nothing compared to experts like yourself.
@thamnosma No it doesn't. As the video says. The starting point in science is observation. If you bother to examine these collapses you will notice that what is being turned to dust are the cement floors and the drywall in the building. They are going to offer virtually NO resistance to a mass of 31 floors or 10 floors falling on them. Explosives don't pulverize cement. But massive amounts of weight sure as hell do. The columns and steel are being peeled off and lie in the street
@thamnosma No it does not. The debris is falling at 11 seconds, absolutely. The building itself is falling far slower than that. A physics Prof even worked it out on a graph. Not possible to have steel girders in the air halfway down the building facade while the rest of it is still 30 stories above all that.
Dude? What took place on 911 HAS NO PRECEDENT. Comparing to any other event, fire, etc is absolutely pointless. NOTHING shares what happened to these structures that day
@thamnosma Collapses unknown to engineering (?????????????)
Run a 767 in to both of them at full power then we'll have a chat.
And we also have the Structural Engineer who built this say that should failure occur the buildings would..."Collapse instantly and to the foundations".
Les Robertson. BTW if one person knows what he is talking about its Les. He is not sitting at a desk making up numbers.
Its his JOB to know what is going to be an overload for the structure.
@roquefortfiles how could explosives be a moot point?THEY FOUND IT YOU MORON!that makes a world of difference..for your lack of information,it was everywhere..you don't even know what you're talking about huh?Just rambling like a moron with hypotheticals..FACT>tons of iron micro spheres in the dust along with nano sized red/gray unexploded thermite chips(NANOTHERMITE)...I know it's too much for you to take in all at once..WAKE UP then research,debate...stop delaying the inevitable..
@alecboi84 Um dude? There is no one in the profession of Controlled Demolition who would EVER use Thermite or nanothermite for a Controlled Demolition. Pull out the yellow pages and call up a demo company. Ask them to use Themite on your next 25 story office building implosion. Then wait for the laughter because that is what you would get.
@roquefortfiles actually dickhead,they have been used in demolitions in the military..and just because it's not commonly used,doesn't mean it wasn't used on 9/11...remember fuckboy,it was a deceptive demolition to fool morons like yourself into believing that jet impacts & office fires can powderize 3 buildings into fine dust..
@alecboi84 Ohhh. Right. Because a 767 hitting it at 560 mph is just not enough!!
The point of failure in the building is on video tape. Also shot extremely close up. Thermite produces plasma brighter than a welding flame. In the ultra violet spectrum. Its impossible to film without getting MAJOR lens flares.
Would you like to point out to me on these columns exactly where that is happening? There ain't nothing there dude but warping and snapping.
@roquefortfiles I love how YOU, a nobody, is arguing against technical building professionals and science. If you can watch this building fall into itsself, without anything pushing the building itsself down, you are a sheep. Pure and simple.
@retardedfolks I love how YOU folks without any understanding whatsoever of how the loads in the building are carried go on and on that nothing is there to "PUSH" it down.
Dude. The floors don't carry vertical loads. The columns do. Remove them and rotate the top 31 stories on to the floors (Which is what happened)
The floors have a load limit of about 1500 tons. That's the MAX they can take. Now drop 180,000 tons IN MOTION on it.
Not only do I understand the loads, but I also know the strength of the steel in most of the building. The Core Columns (which there were 47 of them) were made with steel rated between 40 and 60ksi (thousand pounds per square inch), and the Facade of the building used even crazier steel (50 to 100ksi). The Facade not only was vertical bearing, but horizontal as well. Do you even know why they have to Demo ANY building in the first place? They cant just fall like this.
Also, you say the "top 31 stories". Both buildings were hit in totally different spots. General laws of physics would not only destroy this top part, but would also mean that whatever crushed the building would be found below. It wasnt. There wasnt even a 9 story high rubble pile caused from 2 110 story buildings falling into itsself. How about you stop listening to what others tell you and do your own research.
@retardedfolks Both buildings collapse EXACTLY in the manner they were impacted. Coincidence? Not at all. WTC 1 hit square on. Collapses square on. Even tilting slightly to the south where the plane damage fanned out on impact. WTC 2. hit off center to the East. Collapses off center about 25 degrees in fact, to the East. It also has about 2x the weight left above the impact point. Because of this it fails first though hit last.
@roquefortfiles The damage isn't consistent with a natural gravitational collapse by some office fires burning at at most 1000F. I would have expected, if anything, at least some form of a minor partial collapse in or around the impact hole but as you can clearly see in any video the buildings held up quite well. Fires were burning out and people were still able to escape from above the impact zones. The rubble pile also is not consistent with ANY collapse, but rather an explosion.
And one more thing, When you talk about any of the Towers collapsing, PLEASE apply the same rule to building 7. "30 floors" and "verticle loads" dont mean shit when a building was not touched by a plane.
@retardedfolks No it was not touched by a plane. Just endless amounts of debris that started from the first towers impact up to its collapse which gouged a 12 story hole out of the back of it. If you haven't bothered to read the firemen oral histories you should. Just about everyone dealing with 7 was entirely aware this building was going eventually fail. Its not really a big mystery and smoking gun like it is made out to be.
@roquefortfiles This is exactly why you are a fool. If you looked at the "oral histories" of the firemen youd easily find that most claim to hear explosions before and during the time of both WTC 1 and 2 collapsing. Also, only the south west section of building 7 got damaged by "endless amounts of debris" and even NIST said that would not have resulted in the collapse and that just FIRE ALONE is what caused the collapse. Look this stuff up before you start posting your "facts" please.
@retardedfolks The same old stupid stories from you lot!!. Same old cherry picked quotes of "Explosions" etc. That conveniently left out the guy saying it sounded "LIKE" a CD not that it was. Trust me dude, i know what a REAL CD is like in person. There isn't a soul in lower Manhattan that wouldn't know about this had it REALLY occurred. Every camera shooting this would be absolutely STUFFED with overwhelming audio.
@roquefortfiles Sounds like you're getting angry. I am laying down fire and I finally get a response from you that is so redundant and baseless I shouldn't even humor a response. Straw man argument if you will. You cant show me any other building to ever even partially collapse due to fire. I also CAN reference videos with audible noises 10 or so seconds before total collapse on both Building 7 and the South Tower
@retardedfolks WTC 2 collapses while ABC NEWS shoots from across the street. They are all of 800 feet away. (I've measured this distance on Google earth). They shoot with a camera that has 2 sources of high quality microphone. It records nothing. No charges no detonations. It simply drops.
And i can show you the same thing from half a dozen other camera positions.
High explosives? Detonating in silence?
Absolutely absurd. Not remotely possible. Kind of a joke really
@retardedfolks Frank Papalia of the FDNY stated he heard absolutely nothing when 7 came down. Dan Nigro who was in charge of 7 and stood in front of it when it fell heard nothing. These "sounds of explosion" stories are nonsense.
You cant show me any other building to ever even partially collapse due to fire.
Oh I am sorry. And the precedent of a commercial airliner screaming thru the building was set when?
@roquefortfiles Lol.. One guy? And you are telling me this Dan Nigro guy was standing RIGHT IN FRONT of the tower? Thats incredible that he even survived. See, its comments like this that make you sound like an idiot rather than a troll. I just showed you evidence and you have nothing to say about it. You just name off a couple randy dandy guys when there are hundreds of firemen from NY that wrote it in their journals. Do yourself a favor and stop responding until you have some real arguments.
@retardedfolks Dude? you can make all of the comments you like saying... "This makes you look like an idiot" blah blah. I have been there and i know what this is like IN PERSON.
There are half a dozen videos of B7 coming down. Ashley Banfield of CNN is on air live when it drops behind her, WITHOUT A SOUND!! Not possible my friend.
This is what everyone would hear if this CD stuff was real.
@alecboi84 Watched a doc on 7 on the CBC. (Not a station known for BS btw) They spoke to the metallurgist who examined the steel. As he put it. "The steel failed from prolonged exposure to fire which basically rusted it rapidly. there were no signs of thermitic or explosive residues on it either"
But I am sure you nuts will find some way of hurling him under the bus so your beloved and irrational "TM" train can continue down the track to TRUTH... right?
@roquefortfiles CBC not known for B.S.??HAHAHAHA.lol..Are you joking?Owned by CBS the "EYE NETWORK"..There part of the lying Lame stream media..anyway so who's this expert,what's his name?lol..How about the over 1500 professional licensed architects & engineers along with independent chemists,scientists, physicists,etc who proved the 3 WTC buildings were brought down by CD?I guess they all are nut jobs who are conspiring against the government.Your government paid experts are compromised moron
@alecboi84 who proved the 3 WTC buildings were brought down by CD?
I have experience in CD. Not one of these buildings have explosives in them. The collapses would look entirely different if they did. The fact that you don't understand that at all speaks volumes.
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
@roquefortfiles ofcourse u cant belive cous ur head is too lunatic to understand something... fuckin vierdo just cant exept facts that it was all staged... u litle dummy u
@roquefortfiles there is a cia asset admiting it was staged... she was in prison cous she wanted to speak the truth... now shes free and shes ready to risk her life to speak out... i mean what else do u need for proof then a cia asset... jesus christ how dumm can u be
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
@roquefortfiles its removal of evidence jesus christtt... removal of evidenceeeeee... they even said the couldent find the black boxes... oh cooon.... a firefighter saw black box at ground zero... which was confiscated by fbi... and he was thereatened by fbi not to talk about it....
@zelenko2 Pull your head out of your ass!! JFC!! I know photographers who shot this plane. It was no drone and it had nothing on the bottom of it. It was United airlines 175. You an read the fucking livery on the side of it. Air traffic control tracked and followed the jet. Its last position was at1500 ft in front of the WTC. The controller responsible has spoken about it.
Guess what happens next? I'll let you fill in the blanks.
@roquefortfiles there still was a pod... mark on the fasede is better proof than the picture... pictures were not so clear not s odh.. but the mark tells it all
@zelenko2 You want to know why the military never intercepted the planes? Cause they didn't know where they were. The pilots of the fighters have spoken about this. They had no target. They had an incident for sure. But they didn't know where that was happening. There is a reason Logan airport was the start point. The planes were only about 35 mins flying time to the targets. United 175 only got REPORTED as hijacked 15 mins before impact. The fighters were 150 miles out still.
@roquefortfiles nomerous people have been threten by fbi a lot of people were afaraid to talk what thay saw becouse of fbi coming to their house... fbi fbi fbi fbi fbi... FBI... A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPLOSIONS BEFORE COLAPSE WERE THRETEN TU NOT MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE... THEY SAID THEY WERE TOLD BY THE FBI JUST TO S.H.U.T U.P
I was a sceptic and was leaning more toward believing that it was an inside job but then was shown another video which scientifically explained how it could have collapsed the way it did after being hit by a plane. It was absolutely believable. Now I'm unsure what to believe. Either way, it was bad!
@granthunt All you need to know about the collapse comes from the man who engineered and built the towers. If ANYONE understands the load characteristics in the building it is Les Robertson. He is the guy who sat at a table calculating these loads. They are not just numbers pulled out of thin air.
He said.."There is no way one floor is going to hold the weight of 14 or more stories landing on it. Not possible. It would collapse instantly and to the foundation"..
OH MY GOD!! Still so many sheeple in denial? When its so OVERobviously a controlled demolition. The sheeple whe stay in denial no mather what facts are presented are the real terrorists along with the scumfucks who are really responsible for this inside job. They are the cancer of the earth. No respect for the sheeple, 0,0 %
Anyone saying this is a controlled demolition using thermite is not a real american i dont care where your from and they should go live in the middle of the desert out in Iraqistanighan or should get put in a gauntanimo with the rest of them palestinian arab mooslems because they are all the terrorist in this world and we know this for a fact because they did the terrorist attack on our homeland in 9/11 and also because our last great leader geroge bush told us so and he wouldnt lie to america.
@pisstaker247 You spotted the the sarcasm, i thought no one would and would just take me serious and start raging at me LOL.
Ghawd bless umeracuhh and walmart for their cheap cheine-eeez thingz that they sell to us good umeracuhhn partiots, and ghawd bless fried cooky doh with melted cheeze dripping all over it, and also fox jews becuz they tell us good umeracuhhn patriots who the real enemeiiz are and how much the great leader the obama man loves us all.
@flanksteak2 oh really? You think a 110 story building was turned to dust by the upper block being just 12 or 13 stories high? The building had 40 large tapered core columns. it is absurd to imagine gravity could account for observed events. Without a doubt wtc 1,2&7 were demolished with pre-planted explosives. 1100 people that were in the towers have yet to have any trace of them identified with dna analyses.. 1100 bodies, gone!
@winston2015 "The building had 40 large tapered core columns"
Like every other dipshit Truthers, you are fucking dumb enough to think the full vertical load carrying capacity of these columns was resisting collapse. As if the top, once falling, perfectly lined up column-to-column.
by cutting it at "initiation of collapse" NIST didnt address the collapse
Or 99 day fires, molten metal, explosions, 1100 missing bodies, squibs, red gray chips, the iron microspheres, and so on. They also failed to even test for explosives! Now why wouldnt they just quickly silence all these "wacky conspiracy theorists" by doing so? when asked by a reporter why NISt didnt test for explosives they replied: "Its waste to look for something that isn't there."
Ha! Ha! "What do you really see happening here..."
I see a fucking building imploding, due to a very large aircraft, full of fuel, crashing into it! Twuffers see what other idiot twuffers tell them to see!
@kanukster yes, the building was burning at the top, then the bottom floors disintegrated. how do you explain the pulverised concrete, asswipe? whenever buildings fall down OR get demolished professionally, there are always massive chunks of concrete that any man can't lift...? can't wait, you paid shill....
Why did they clean the rubble immidiately? I think it's to cover up or to hide evidence.
Isn't it strange,that they didn't keep nothing to investigate,as like when a plain crashes,everything is collected and then put together again to investigate the cause of all.But till this day,I'm wondering why they collect all the rubble and shipped all the iron/steel to China and or India as fast as it could,instead of keeping it all for later investigating.Strange,STRANGE don't you think?????
You can't find a natural cause for the plumes jetting out???
Ha! Ha! seeing that this is an air tight building, it would stand to reason that these plumes are the results of thousands and thousands of tones of the top floors, pancaking down ward with unstoppable force! The air pressure is building to monumental levels as the floors continue crashing downward. The end results are so obvious that a child could figure it out!
@kernzyp Ha! Ha! Your in the wrong game fag! This ones real! "Show me one steel building..." What an idiot!
How's this. You show me one other building that was hit by an airliner full of fuel, that was left to burn for an hour, and didn't collapse. See, what you wanker twuffers don't understand, is that the burden of proof is upon you, to prove that the building collapsed from an alternative source. When you grow up, maybe we'll debate.
The very best complete look at the physical evidence is "Where Did the Towers Go" . go to amazon, read the comments. Go to the corresponding website where did the towers go dot com There is a complete video section for each chapter and dr. wood also has a site. The most sound, scientific look at the evidence ever.
@99Eternal All the more reason to want and demand an honest, independent investigation. I can only say that whatever happened on that day is not what they say happened. That much I do know.
@99Eternal What do you mean by "be very careful who you trust" Careful??? I'm just reading all that is put out there. No one loses by looking at all evidence. Be very careful sounds like a threat or warning. I am not sure what you mean by that. I don't take anyone or any groups that spend 10 years of their lives looking at evidence as something to just dismiss. I do look at ae911 a lot. But I also think that Dr Wood does not get a fair look/ see.
@Cathyvalaz Definitely wasn't a threat lol, but a warning. You are absolutely right it is good to look at all the info. But you need to be careful which info you trust/promote.
Again, Judy Wood has done some great work however she does not have 1500 verified licensed architects and engineers backing her, these very AE911TRUTH have written many papers in response to Judy Wood and I strongly suggest you should read up on why they find many aspects of her theory that doesn't fit evidence etc.
@Cathyvalaz The reason why I am warning you is because there are many elaborate disinformation campaigns out there and if the majority of people trust in one of these disinfo campaigns, if this ever got to a trial scenario, and the disinformation theory was used by the prosecution, it would be quite easy for the defence(government) to then point out all the large holes in the very disinfo theory that they themselves created.
I'm not saying to trust Jones either, just be very careful of disinfo.
This is not a matter of hypothysis. Ya'll been lied to for 10 goddam years. What the hell is your problem? Did'nt your parents love you enough? Does the big-bad-pschopath scare you? Are you going to let some inbred stupid satanic chicken-fucker frighten you out of your basic senses of self-preservation? Are you going to let them rob your country blind and then bill you for it and hand the rest over to the NWO=OWO? Are you going to ignore the fac t that Pres. B.O. has uniformly broken every...
When are you whelps going to cowboy up and ask the port Authority and developers(Rockefellers) and the involved U.S. government what they did with the records of the preset thermi(a)te compounds and U.S.S.R.-U.S. directed placement of nukes in the basements back in the 1960s. I am tired of this lame pap you people keep rehashing. Get down to it and hand them their ass on a platter like they deserve.
Jct: The most important point to learn is that NIST used crooked engineers. Most people think scientists and engineers are honest and now we know that government ones are not.
John The Engineer Turmel says so because gasoline can't melt steel. When was the last time the charcoal melted your barbecue? Source? I have a brain, go try and find one too.
In the NIST report the word "melt" appears only once. pg 29 chap 6. "Structural steel does not need to melt to lose their strength. Their melting points are about 1600 degres, well above the 1,100 c reached by fires of most building combustibles."
But the steel lost most of it's strength at around 800 degrees. And the buildings collapsed.
So it really doesn't matter if " gasoline can't melt steel" .
Jct: You're sure trying pretty hard if you didn't notice the buildings fell at freefall speed. If it had pancaked, there would have been resistance from below. Freefall means the understructure had been taken out! How ignorant can a person be? I have a degree in science, evidently you don't or you'd know that.
All that would really sting if the buildings had actually fallen at freefall speed but since they didn't, I guess you are they only person with a degree in science that can't use a stop watch.
Watch Chandler's video. It runs for 9.5 sec. That happens to be almost the exact "freefall" time most quoted by the mentally challenged truther movement. Only problem is the collapse hasn't finished and the video didn't even start at the beginning.
Here is a sampleing of other truther on this very page...
"Freefall speed is not even remotely necessary to indicate controlled demolition - in fact, it features in very few CDs except at the very start.. NellJSmith 3 weeks ago"
"Freefall does occur for 2.25-2.5 seconds of WTC7's fall. Chandler also measured the Twin Towers, and showed it comes down at 2/3 freefall."
Chandler's video is really the best visual to demonstrate that the buildings DIDN'T fall at freefall speed. Notice the debris falling down and away from the collapse area. Notice it is well below the collapse and falling faster than the collapse.
If the building were collapsing at freefall speed, why is the debris falling fast than the collapse?
If the building were collapsing at freefall speed, why is the debris falling fast than the collapse?
What do I see....u being a fuck tard
tbrhunter 4 days ago
you wont see this video clip on Fox News
soflachiropractor 1 week ago
This is for badboybori... I guess you didn't understand my initial comment. Your incoherent ramblings just prove my point. Btw your truther talking point are a bit dated. Anywho you are a waste of time for me toodles :)
Physman2011 3 weeks ago
@Physman2011 : ROFL.
It has already been proven that the event is IMPOSSIBLE. You can NOT even come close to explaining the IMPOSSIBLE, so keep trying you PRO LIFE HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!
BadBoriBoy 3 weeks ago
No airplane can do this.
LittleCupCakez 3 weeks ago 2
Well I keep looking and keep finding stuff. In the first hit on the north tower. I call it the original squib I guess. At the moment the fireball is growing on the face of the tower, at the very top few floors near the center, a puff of smoke isolated from the main ball of fire and smoke. Must have been an upwardly pancaking floor cause that? Looks like a separate explosion maybe 2 or 3 seconds after first plane strike.911 is not over!
Jimbofx911 1 month ago
" a fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer". Think about it truthers
Physman2011 1 month ago
Chandler states that the "explosions" keep pace with the falling debris. So the question is if this were a controlled demolition why set off the explosions in such a way as to raise questions? Again under any kind of scrutiny truther arguments fall apart. I think the following is particularly appropriate for truthers
Physman2011 1 month ago
@Physman2011 how else can you control demo a building to make it look like fire did that? It would make sense that controlled demo of the towers were ultimately organized under compartmentalization, in this case it is your best bet to comply with existing methods and not endorse video footage such as this.
Roonoon2 3 weeks ago
@Roonoon2 : YOU REALLY ARE A RETARD. There was WAY TO MUCH ASH in the demise of the twin towers to blame it on a natural collapse. Look up the definition of a CD.
If I were to take a bulldozer & knock a building down it would be considered a CD you NIT.
All it means is that you are controlling how something is demolished.
Learn the definition of a phrase b4 you speak knowledge of it. The debate of a 767 flying 590mph @ SEA LEVEL can never fall apart b/c it is beyond impossible.
BadBoriBoy 3 weeks ago
@BadBoriBoy hey man I'm absolutely with you I share the same opinion. I was just trying to justify why the CD of the towers were so obvious. Can I suggest you put the insults aside when you debate, kindergarten insults are usually used by those who try to protect the official version because they really have very little to go by.
Roonoon2 3 weeks ago
@Roonoon2 : The comment was not directed at you. It was directed at Physman. The insults are 100% necessary. I started editing & fully producing video as a Freshman in high school. I had the OMG sound clip from the Naudet Brothers clip prior to 911. The same exact sound effect,
BadBoriBoy 3 weeks ago
@BadBoriBoy oh ok thx, so the Naudet Brothers clip is fake?
Roonoon2 3 weeks ago
@Roonoon2: The most important channel to entertain about this event is : physicsandreason.
BadBoriBoy 3 weeks ago
@Physman2011 : Why do film directors use their B rolls with mistakes when the A stack has none?!?! Because it's a fucking movie. An act of deception.
Only retards would oppose this vid. Nothing with the event adds up. Basic common sense will tell you that. There is no such thing as Islamic terrorism in the US.
WAKE UP!!!! The event is BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE!!! A 767 can not fly 590mph @ SEA LEVEL. A 767 can NOT dissolve into a steel/concrete building in 1 piece. You are quite the RETARD!!!
BadBoriBoy 3 weeks ago
David Chandler is a FAKE truther.
He blocks reactions on his channel.
koertje 1 month ago
Search and watch Dimitri Khalezov explaining how such a nuclear detonation takes place and how it makes perfect sense to how the towers collapsed. Spread the word, and at least watch the videos completely before posting a comment.
mwowner1 2 months ago 2
Nuclear detonation underground explains how the bottom of the towers turned basically into dust. There is no other explanation of how the towers produced so much dust at simply free fail speed. Towers cannot produce so much dust when collapsing, only if there was a nuclear explosion underground reaching the towers from the bottom upwards can pulverize the bottom half of the towers producing so much dust while the top remains intact pushing downwards falling on the weak bottom.
mwowner1 2 months ago
BTW , ROQUEFORTFILES > said he was a Controlled Demolition Expert...lol...now i see he's currently an engineer/loading expert...He's a troll..
alecboi84 3 months ago
/watch?v=huK0MAb0Xa4&feature=related ..... whatch carefuly on fasade
zelenko2 5 months ago
Pancake theory :D :D thats some funny shit
ddmaddog29 5 months ago
If that were the case you would see 60 of those going off across each side of the building. One charge does not a CD make. And on a building this large this statement is even more absurd. One charge large enough to be cutting the internal MASSIVE columns would blow a hell of allot more than dust. It would shatter every window out in the vicinity easily. None of that is going on.
Don't be fooled by people on YT who think they know what they are talking about.
This is all bullshit.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles it was an inside job buddy... those towers would be still standing if they were hit by planes
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Is that a fact?
How did they fall down?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles termite brother... termite... dont be silly
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 LOL!! Tell you what. Go and call up a demo company and tell them you plan on using this stuff for a CD. See how fast it takes them to laugh your ass out the door.
NO ONE would use Thermite for a CD. You don't cut major load bearing columns with a couple of buckets of Thermite. A ridiculous story.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles /watch?v=6qv1WV4tQLw&feature=related
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 LOL!! Does everyone here put on their stupid hat when they talk about this stuff? Seems so.
Dude. What just piled itself in to the very corner in question?. 155 feet of aluminum the jet!!. Which has a ridiculously low melting point. And a couple of dripping sparks on one column is not going to collapse a building that has 244 exterior columns.
Got any more ridiculous nonsense?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles it is not aluminummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... aluminum is silver even when its melted... this is molten steeeeeeeel... google molten steel and molten aluminum... :))))))))))
zelenko2 5 months ago
and only this corner was opened becouse of the plane damage crashing... s oit was opened... it was exposed...
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles the truth is sadder than the official lie
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles whats wrong buddy... u realise now what happened that day????... i hope u do
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 No.. explain it to me like I am a 5 year old. What happened?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles read ur coments and my coments one after another... and see where have u come... and by the way whats up with that googling molten steel an molten aluminum????
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 So how was it all done then. ?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles ohhhh... poor americans... do some research... whatch some loose change movies.... whatch the cia asset whistleblower speaking out loudly... i mean u gotta be blind if u dont see it was all planned... biggest false flag operation ever done by usa
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles those buldings were brought down by termite... no doubt
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 No CD tech would ever use that material to do that. If you think formed steel columns are going to be melted thru with a few buckets of Thermite.. you're on crack. 244 exterior columns? 47 interior columns? A floor that is an acre across?
Who are you kidding here? Had this REALLY taken place you would have dripping melted slag running down the steel beams. It would smack you across the face it would be so obvious.
Its not resulting in a few micro "nano" particles.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles there were not buckets of termite... on ground zero there was like lava melted steel... the official story falls apart at any turn
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles all know it nowadays.. why dont they show u the cameras... a lot of people being threatened not to talk about bombs in towers.. almost freefall colapse... pod atached under the plane... hijackers still alive... all cameras at pentagon confiscated by fbi... people telling they saw plane flying over pentagon and just before releasing a misle with wings.. all planes seen after the officially crashed... 911 comission failed becouse comissioners were shocked when they knew the truth
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 pod atached under the plane.??? (Um.. its called the landing gear cowling!! its supposed to be there!!)... LOL!!
The NTSB have the data recorder from the plane at the Pentagon. You can go to their web page and read the parameters of it. They also recovered everyone that was on the plane and ID'd all of them. Hijackers included thru process of elimination.
Don't be another Sept 11th Youtube idiot my friend. There are far far too many of them.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@zelenko2 pod atached under the plane.??? (Um.. its called the landing gear cowling!! its supposed to be there!!)... LOL!!
The NTSB have the data recorder from the plane at the Pentagon. You can go to their web page and read the parameters of it. They also recovered everyone that was on the plane and ID'd all of them. Hijackers included thru process of elimination.
Don't be another Sept 11th Youtube idiot my friend. There are far far too many of them.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles give me a link of boeing hitting the pentagon and i will believe...
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles and u belive everything pentagon says... jesus christ
zelenko2 5 months ago
and its not the landing gear cowling... its an 3d object... when the plane hits the fasade of wtc it leaves a mark... there is a video clearly showing it... ever heard of northwoods operation... :)))))))) the hitting planes were drones buddy
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Um.. the landing gear cowling is 3D. I know photographers who shot that plane. Seen close up images of it. There is nothing on the bottom of it that isn't normally there.
Lisa Frost was on United 175. They found her air miles card from her back pocket and a portion of her hip in debris. It was returned to her family.
She was not flying on a "Drone"
Take your head out of your ass dude.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles u dont understand what i just said.. the pod on the bottom left a mark on the fasade... its clearly on the right side of the plane boddy... it is clearly seen on the fasade... and how can u belive that they found the card on ground zero... when everything was manipulated by goverment
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 u dont understand what i just said.. (You got that right!!).
I know aircraft very well. I have seen close video of the jet as well as still photography (Which is what i do for a living). There is nothing on the bottom of that plane that isn't supposed to be there. There ain't no pod!! and people who think they see a "POD" don't understand what the hell they are looking at.
Manipulated by the Government? The story was from her family. Not the Government.
Don't be a fool.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles look man... did u see the mark on the fasade... its a clear proof that there was pod... the mark on the fasadeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dude... the object let mark on the fasade for christ sake... yeah the family got the card back.. so this is proof that her body was found at ground zero... bullshit... the familly just got card which is not proof that the body was there
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Oh.. ok.. Peter Hanson was also on U 175. His family also got some remains back.
Yeah I've seen the facade. A big honking hole from a jet. I've also seen high quality still photography of that jet. There is nothing on the bottom of it. Other than the landing gear cowlings.. which are supposed to be there. And i know Jets VERY well.
btw.. There is a museum in NY showing the plane debris. Its a UNITED JET. Its not a drone!!
Get real dude.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles and u actually belive what is in that freaking fucking museummmm... u belive that those parts are from groung zero... when the ground zero debres werer removed imediatly as fast as they could and transpoted to china for recycle...
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Dude. each building was 500,000 tons. 1 million tons of debris ain't goin nowhere fast.
Who are you kidding?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles what are u trying to say "going nowhere fast"... they removed the stuff on ground zero as fast as they could... they are even chasing a fema fotograpfher that has some proof of melting steel flowing lika lava... if u dont want to know the truth than i can not help u... u just dont want to know the truth... these are facts that im telling u and u just keep in ur mind that it was not goverment... i mean how old are u?????
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
They are for idiots.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles nobody exept nist and controled media was not allowed to go in... dumbie dumb
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
They are for idiots.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles That's simply not true. Much of the site of completely sealed and off-limits to all but federal officials and those they permitted on site. I'm speaking of FEMA investigators. None of these were investigated chemical traces, no such investigations occurred. The clean up was done in amazing speed. Of course, not over a weekend, but in a super rushed manner and typical crime scene protocols were simply not followed. The idiot is you. Living in denial doesn't change reality
thamnosma 3 months ago
@thamnosma Give me a break for Christs sake!! The buildings were 1 million tons in total. No matter how many ways you want to slice this its not mopped up and trucked out in a weekend. Absolutely ridiculous!!.
And sorry but explosive residues etc are a moot point. Had it been done (Controlled Demolition) there would be debris of that EVERYWHERE. Looking for a bit of chemical on a column would be the LEAST of your worries.
These stories are nothing but nonsense
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles one million tons turn to dust in 11 seconds. Believe what you will, man. Collapses unknown to engineering, not once but 3 times in one day. Yeah, physicists, architects and engineers know nothing compared to experts like yourself.
thamnosma 3 months ago
@thamnosma No it doesn't. As the video says. The starting point in science is observation. If you bother to examine these collapses you will notice that what is being turned to dust are the cement floors and the drywall in the building. They are going to offer virtually NO resistance to a mass of 31 floors or 10 floors falling on them. Explosives don't pulverize cement. But massive amounts of weight sure as hell do. The columns and steel are being peeled off and lie in the street
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@thamnosma No it does not. The debris is falling at 11 seconds, absolutely. The building itself is falling far slower than that. A physics Prof even worked it out on a graph. Not possible to have steel girders in the air halfway down the building facade while the rest of it is still 30 stories above all that.
Dude? What took place on 911 HAS NO PRECEDENT. Comparing to any other event, fire, etc is absolutely pointless. NOTHING shares what happened to these structures that day
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@thamnosma Collapses unknown to engineering (?????????????)
Run a 767 in to both of them at full power then we'll have a chat.
And we also have the Structural Engineer who built this say that should failure occur the buildings would..."Collapse instantly and to the foundations".
Les Robertson. BTW if one person knows what he is talking about its Les. He is not sitting at a desk making up numbers.
Its his JOB to know what is going to be an overload for the structure.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles how could explosives be a moot point?THEY FOUND IT YOU MORON!that makes a world of difference..for your lack of information,it was everywhere..you don't even know what you're talking about huh?Just rambling like a moron with hypotheticals..FACT>tons of iron micro spheres in the dust along with nano sized red/gray unexploded thermite chips(NANOTHERMITE)...I know it's too much for you to take in all at once..WAKE UP then research,debate...stop delaying the inevitable..
alecboi84 3 months ago
@alecboi84 Um dude? There is no one in the profession of Controlled Demolition who would EVER use Thermite or nanothermite for a Controlled Demolition. Pull out the yellow pages and call up a demo company. Ask them to use Themite on your next 25 story office building implosion. Then wait for the laughter because that is what you would get.
And yes I know what I am talking about.
Entirely a bunch of nonsense.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles actually dickhead,they have been used in demolitions in the military..and just because it's not commonly used,doesn't mean it wasn't used on 9/11...remember fuckboy,it was a deceptive demolition to fool morons like yourself into believing that jet impacts & office fires can powderize 3 buildings into fine dust..
alecboi84 3 months ago
@alecboi84 Ohhh. Right. Because a 767 hitting it at 560 mph is just not enough!!
The point of failure in the building is on video tape. Also shot extremely close up. Thermite produces plasma brighter than a welding flame. In the ultra violet spectrum. Its impossible to film without getting MAJOR lens flares.
Would you like to point out to me on these columns exactly where that is happening? There ain't nothing there dude but warping and snapping.
UR on glue if you think differently
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles I love how YOU, a nobody, is arguing against technical building professionals and science. If you can watch this building fall into itsself, without anything pushing the building itsself down, you are a sheep. Pure and simple.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks I love how YOU folks without any understanding whatsoever of how the loads in the building are carried go on and on that nothing is there to "PUSH" it down.
Dude. The floors don't carry vertical loads. The columns do. Remove them and rotate the top 31 stories on to the floors (Which is what happened)
The floors have a load limit of about 1500 tons. That's the MAX they can take. Now drop 180,000 tons IN MOTION on it.
You do the math studmuffin!!
Pretty basic stuff.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles
Not only do I understand the loads, but I also know the strength of the steel in most of the building. The Core Columns (which there were 47 of them) were made with steel rated between 40 and 60ksi (thousand pounds per square inch), and the Facade of the building used even crazier steel (50 to 100ksi). The Facade not only was vertical bearing, but horizontal as well. Do you even know why they have to Demo ANY building in the first place? They cant just fall like this.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
Also, you say the "top 31 stories". Both buildings were hit in totally different spots. General laws of physics would not only destroy this top part, but would also mean that whatever crushed the building would be found below. It wasnt. There wasnt even a 9 story high rubble pile caused from 2 110 story buildings falling into itsself. How about you stop listening to what others tell you and do your own research.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks Both buildings collapse EXACTLY in the manner they were impacted. Coincidence? Not at all. WTC 1 hit square on. Collapses square on. Even tilting slightly to the south where the plane damage fanned out on impact. WTC 2. hit off center to the East. Collapses off center about 25 degrees in fact, to the East. It also has about 2x the weight left above the impact point. Because of this it fails first though hit last.
All consistent with the damage.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles The damage isn't consistent with a natural gravitational collapse by some office fires burning at at most 1000F. I would have expected, if anything, at least some form of a minor partial collapse in or around the impact hole but as you can clearly see in any video the buildings held up quite well. Fires were burning out and people were still able to escape from above the impact zones. The rubble pile also is not consistent with ANY collapse, but rather an explosion.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks The rubble pile also is not consistent with ANY collapse, but rather an explosion.
Explosives don't hurl steel beams half a block. Nor do they pulverize concrete floors in to powder. They are not USED for this nor would they DO this.
And neither would Thermite.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
And one more thing, When you talk about any of the Towers collapsing, PLEASE apply the same rule to building 7. "30 floors" and "verticle loads" dont mean shit when a building was not touched by a plane.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks No it was not touched by a plane. Just endless amounts of debris that started from the first towers impact up to its collapse which gouged a 12 story hole out of the back of it. If you haven't bothered to read the firemen oral histories you should. Just about everyone dealing with 7 was entirely aware this building was going eventually fail. Its not really a big mystery and smoking gun like it is made out to be.
Quite allot of silly nonsense.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles This is exactly why you are a fool. If you looked at the "oral histories" of the firemen youd easily find that most claim to hear explosions before and during the time of both WTC 1 and 2 collapsing. Also, only the south west section of building 7 got damaged by "endless amounts of debris" and even NIST said that would not have resulted in the collapse and that just FIRE ALONE is what caused the collapse. Look this stuff up before you start posting your "facts" please.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks The same old stupid stories from you lot!!. Same old cherry picked quotes of "Explosions" etc. That conveniently left out the guy saying it sounded "LIKE" a CD not that it was. Trust me dude, i know what a REAL CD is like in person. There isn't a soul in lower Manhattan that wouldn't know about this had it REALLY occurred. Every camera shooting this would be absolutely STUFFED with overwhelming audio.
None are. Prove me wrong.
You wont!!
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles Sounds like you're getting angry. I am laying down fire and I finally get a response from you that is so redundant and baseless I shouldn't even humor a response. Straw man argument if you will. You cant show me any other building to ever even partially collapse due to fire. I also CAN reference videos with audible noises 10 or so seconds before total collapse on both Building 7 and the South Tower
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks
/watch?v=ESaIEVxLnK4
^^ bangs 10 seconds before the collapse?
/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus
^^ bang @ 11 seconds marking the penthouse collapse (coincidence?)
Even though its impossible to deny what is heard, I am sure you will have some way of disproving this.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks WTC 2 collapses while ABC NEWS shoots from across the street. They are all of 800 feet away. (I've measured this distance on Google earth). They shoot with a camera that has 2 sources of high quality microphone. It records nothing. No charges no detonations. It simply drops.
And i can show you the same thing from half a dozen other camera positions.
High explosives? Detonating in silence?
Absolutely absurd. Not remotely possible. Kind of a joke really
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@retardedfolks Explosions at Building 7 ?
Oh you mean like these explosions? Sorry i don't hear a thing.
watch?v=U8950hcKZXw
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@retardedfolks Frank Papalia of the FDNY stated he heard absolutely nothing when 7 came down. Dan Nigro who was in charge of 7 and stood in front of it when it fell heard nothing. These "sounds of explosion" stories are nonsense.
You cant show me any other building to ever even partially collapse due to fire.
Oh I am sorry. And the precedent of a commercial airliner screaming thru the building was set when?
Try never
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles Lol.. One guy? And you are telling me this Dan Nigro guy was standing RIGHT IN FRONT of the tower? Thats incredible that he even survived. See, its comments like this that make you sound like an idiot rather than a troll. I just showed you evidence and you have nothing to say about it. You just name off a couple randy dandy guys when there are hundreds of firemen from NY that wrote it in their journals. Do yourself a favor and stop responding until you have some real arguments.
retardedfolks 3 months ago
@retardedfolks Dude? you can make all of the comments you like saying... "This makes you look like an idiot" blah blah. I have been there and i know what this is like IN PERSON.
There are half a dozen videos of B7 coming down. Ashley Banfield of CNN is on air live when it drops behind her, WITHOUT A SOUND!! Not possible my friend.
This is what everyone would hear if this CD stuff was real.
watch?v=obJe66QHx_Y&feature=related
Find one video of 7 like this. you won't
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@alecboi84 Watched a doc on 7 on the CBC. (Not a station known for BS btw) They spoke to the metallurgist who examined the steel. As he put it. "The steel failed from prolonged exposure to fire which basically rusted it rapidly. there were no signs of thermitic or explosive residues on it either"
But I am sure you nuts will find some way of hurling him under the bus so your beloved and irrational "TM" train can continue down the track to TRUTH... right?
Clear the track for any crap!!!
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles CBC not known for B.S.??HAHAHAHA.lol..Are you joking?Owned by CBS the "EYE NETWORK"..There part of the lying Lame stream media..anyway so who's this expert,what's his name?lol..How about the over 1500 professional licensed architects & engineers along with independent chemists,scientists, physicists,etc who proved the 3 WTC buildings were brought down by CD?I guess they all are nut jobs who are conspiring against the government.Your government paid experts are compromised moron
alecboi84 3 months ago
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alecboi84 3 months ago
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@alecboi84 who proved the 3 WTC buildings were brought down by CD?
I have experience in CD. Not one of these buildings have explosives in them. The collapses would look entirely different if they did. The fact that you don't understand that at all speaks volumes.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
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@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
They are for idiots.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles ... /watch?v=3GHM5f9lVho ... go to 6:43 to hear something that u dont belive in...
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Bunch O Nonsense!! All of your guys "TM" crap is. You all jerk each other off with this junk
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles ofcourse u cant belive cous ur head is too lunatic to understand something... fuckin vierdo just cant exept facts that it was all staged... u litle dummy u
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles there is a cia asset admiting it was staged... she was in prison cous she wanted to speak the truth... now shes free and shes ready to risk her life to speak out... i mean what else do u need for proof then a cia asset... jesus christ how dumm can u be
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 admiting? cous? dumm? can u be
Sure you don't want to rethink that statement?
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles ?
zelenko2 5 months ago
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@zelenko2 Going nowhere fast?? 1 million tons of debris?? Good fucking luck!!
You make it sound like it was boxed up and cleaned up in a weekend!!
Lots of time for people to walk over it, examine it.. look at it.. IN DETAIL. Hundreds of trained Explosives experts were on scene. A team of CD techs were even AT B 7 prior to its collapse. Standing there waiting for it to go.
These "Stories" of CD at the buildings are utter nonsense.
They are for idiots.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles its removal of evidence jesus christtt... removal of evidenceeeeee... they even said the couldent find the black boxes... oh cooon.... a firefighter saw black box at ground zero... which was confiscated by fbi... and he was thereatened by fbi not to talk about it....
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 Pull your head out of your ass!! JFC!! I know photographers who shot this plane. It was no drone and it had nothing on the bottom of it. It was United airlines 175. You an read the fucking livery on the side of it. Air traffic control tracked and followed the jet. Its last position was at1500 ft in front of the WTC. The controller responsible has spoken about it.
Guess what happens next? I'll let you fill in the blanks.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles there still was a pod... mark on the fasede is better proof than the picture... pictures were not so clear not s odh.. but the mark tells it all
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles /watch?v=KhdppHwUJ9k&feature=channel_video_title ... this should shock u i guess
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 You want to know why the military never intercepted the planes? Cause they didn't know where they were. The pilots of the fighters have spoken about this. They had no target. They had an incident for sure. But they didn't know where that was happening. There is a reason Logan airport was the start point. The planes were only about 35 mins flying time to the targets. United 175 only got REPORTED as hijacked 15 mins before impact. The fighters were 150 miles out still.
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles norad was told to stand down that day by the white house... .... what else do u need for christ sake
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles nomerous people have been threten by fbi a lot of people were afaraid to talk what thay saw becouse of fbi coming to their house... fbi fbi fbi fbi fbi... FBI... A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPLOSIONS BEFORE COLAPSE WERE THRETEN TU NOT MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE... THEY SAID THEY WERE TOLD BY THE FBI JUST TO S.H.U.T U.P
zelenko2 5 months ago
@zelenko2 THEY SAID THEY WERE TOLD BY THE FBI JUST TO S.H.U.T U.P
Urban Myth nonsense!!
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles and u still didnt send me a link of boeing crashing into pentagon.......... :/ :S
zelenko2 5 months ago
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@roquefortfiles termite brother... termite... dont be silly
zelenko2 5 months ago
This is just a small scale model "Not real". The real collapse happened but not recorded.
Visit "september clues" Simon Shack has the whole thing nailed down.
mwmsearch 5 months ago
@mwmsearch The twin towers still stand. They are just hidden in a cloak of invisibility. It was all an excuse to invade the middle east.
cf80to01 5 months ago
This is just a small scale model "Not real". The real collapse happened but not recorded.
Visit "september clues" Simon Shack has the whole thing nailed down.
mwmsearch 5 months ago
I was a sceptic and was leaning more toward believing that it was an inside job but then was shown another video which scientifically explained how it could have collapsed the way it did after being hit by a plane. It was absolutely believable. Now I'm unsure what to believe. Either way, it was bad!
granthunt 5 months ago
@granthunt All you need to know about the collapse comes from the man who engineered and built the towers. If ANYONE understands the load characteristics in the building it is Les Robertson. He is the guy who sat at a table calculating these loads. They are not just numbers pulled out of thin air.
He said.."There is no way one floor is going to hold the weight of 14 or more stories landing on it. Not possible. It would collapse instantly and to the foundation"..
Pretty much what happens
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles it shouldent have start to collapse..................... termite coused the strating of collapse... not fires
zelenko2 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles /watch?v=OmuzyWC60eE&feature=related
zelenko2 5 months ago
OH MY GOD!! Still so many sheeple in denial? When its so OVERobviously a controlled demolition. The sheeple whe stay in denial no mather what facts are presented are the real terrorists along with the scumfucks who are really responsible for this inside job. They are the cancer of the earth. No respect for the sheeple, 0,0 %
DizzyDizzer 6 months ago
Anyone saying this is a controlled demolition using thermite is not a real american i dont care where your from and they should go live in the middle of the desert out in Iraqistanighan or should get put in a gauntanimo with the rest of them palestinian arab mooslems because they are all the terrorist in this world and we know this for a fact because they did the terrorist attack on our homeland in 9/11 and also because our last great leader geroge bush told us so and he wouldnt lie to america.
clitmint 6 months ago
@clitmint Hahaha
pisstaker247 6 months ago
@pisstaker247 You spotted the the sarcasm, i thought no one would and would just take me serious and start raging at me LOL.
Ghawd bless umeracuhh and walmart for their cheap cheine-eeez thingz that they sell to us good umeracuhhn partiots, and ghawd bless fried cooky doh with melted cheeze dripping all over it, and also fox jews becuz they tell us good umeracuhhn patriots who the real enemeiiz are and how much the great leader the obama man loves us all.
Ghawd i love bein an umeracuhhn !!
clitmint 6 months ago
@clitmint hahahahaha that's great nice one.
BlackHoleFileOrg 5 months ago
excellent video, thanks for posting
thermate911 6 months ago
I can clearly see the small explosions. Going from up to down. If you fail to see that you are blind. Or brainwashed. Or both.
3v3angel 7 months ago
there's NO WAY both would fall completely straight down with nothing left
polterguis 7 months ago
"They took their analyses only to the iniation of collapse"
Well of course. Only a dipshit would need a post-iniation "analyses".
flanksteak2 7 months ago
@flanksteak2 lol - how silly of us to ask silly questions. Lame right?
philwarinsky 7 months ago
@philwarinsky I agree, you are Lame.
flanksteak2 7 months ago
@flanksteak2 oh really? You think a 110 story building was turned to dust by the upper block being just 12 or 13 stories high? The building had 40 large tapered core columns. it is absurd to imagine gravity could account for observed events. Without a doubt wtc 1,2&7 were demolished with pre-planted explosives. 1100 people that were in the towers have yet to have any trace of them identified with dna analyses.. 1100 bodies, gone!
You think gravity accounts for that?
You're dreaming.
winston2015 6 months ago
@winston2015 "The building had 40 large tapered core columns"
Like every other dipshit Truthers, you are fucking dumb enough to think the full vertical load carrying capacity of these columns was resisting collapse. As if the top, once falling, perfectly lined up column-to-column.
God you're fucking dumb.
flanksteak2 6 months ago
@winston2015 "Without a doubt wtc 1,2&7 were demolished with pre-planted explosives."
Without a doubt, you are both a flunky and moron.
flanksteak2 6 months ago
by cutting it at "initiation of collapse" NIST didnt address the collapse
Or 99 day fires, molten metal, explosions, 1100 missing bodies, squibs, red gray chips, the iron microspheres, and so on. They also failed to even test for explosives! Now why wouldnt they just quickly silence all these "wacky conspiracy theorists" by doing so? when asked by a reporter why NISt didnt test for explosives they replied: "Its waste to look for something that isn't there."
what else do you need to know?
winston2015 6 months ago
@winston2015 What sort of idiot needs a model to show that collapse would continue once initiated>
What sort of idiot would question that the fires would continue to burn until all the fuel was depleted?
We don't look for explosives when the steel shows no damage caused by explosives. That would be stupid. Do you know why that would be stupid?
Only a 911 Truther would say the things you just said and 911 Truthers are stupid. LOL
flanksteak2 6 months ago
Listening to this Moronic analyses is quite painful.
flanksteak2 7 months ago
Ha! Ha! "What do you really see happening here..."
I see a fucking building imploding, due to a very large aircraft, full of fuel, crashing into it! Twuffers see what other idiot twuffers tell them to see!
kanukster 7 months ago
@kanukster yes, the building was burning at the top, then the bottom floors disintegrated. how do you explain the pulverised concrete, asswipe? whenever buildings fall down OR get demolished professionally, there are always massive chunks of concrete that any man can't lift...? can't wait, you paid shill....
kernzyp 7 months ago
Why did they clean the rubble immidiately? I think it's to cover up or to hide evidence.
Isn't it strange,that they didn't keep nothing to investigate,as like when a plain crashes,everything is collected and then put together again to investigate the cause of all.But till this day,I'm wondering why they collect all the rubble and shipped all the iron/steel to China and or India as fast as it could,instead of keeping it all for later investigating.Strange,STRANGE don't you think?????
mandraak3 8 months ago
@mandraak3 Are you also amazed when looking at shiny objects?
kanukster 7 months ago
You can't find a natural cause for the plumes jetting out???
Ha! Ha! seeing that this is an air tight building, it would stand to reason that these plumes are the results of thousands and thousands of tones of the top floors, pancaking down ward with unstoppable force! The air pressure is building to monumental levels as the floors continue crashing downward. The end results are so obvious that a child could figure it out!
Perhaps that's why Truthers can't!
kanukster 9 months ago
@kanukster Go away troll.
Nellynoodlebums 8 months ago
@Nellynoodlebums yeah, what a retard. airtight building? how did they breathe?? ha ha ha!!! steel buildings DO NOT PACAKE!!!
kernzyp 7 months ago
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kernzyp 7 months ago
@kanukster You obviously are a child. steel buildings DO NOT PANCAKE!!!
kernzyp 7 months ago
@kernzyp I guess they don't in the twuffer world! next time try harder gamer fag!
kanukster 7 months ago
@kanukster dumb ass wanker. fuck your dead dads ass. show me one steel building that has pancaked not on 9/11, you fucked up bum pube flosser.
kernzyp 7 months ago
@kernzyp Ha! Ha! Your in the wrong game fag! This ones real! "Show me one steel building..." What an idiot!
How's this. You show me one other building that was hit by an airliner full of fuel, that was left to burn for an hour, and didn't collapse. See, what you wanker twuffers don't understand, is that the burden of proof is upon you, to prove that the building collapsed from an alternative source. When you grow up, maybe we'll debate.
kanukster 7 months ago
@kanukster OK what happened to WTC7 then?
markshep777 7 months ago
The very best complete look at the physical evidence is "Where Did the Towers Go" . go to amazon, read the comments. Go to the corresponding website where did the towers go dot com There is a complete video section for each chapter and dr. wood also has a site. The most sound, scientific look at the evidence ever.
Cathyvalaz 9 months ago
@Cathyvalaz I understand Judy Wood may sound legit but please consider the information in this link:
ae911truth . org/en/news-section/41-articles/505-ae911truth-faq-6-whats-your-assessment-of-the-directed-energy-weapon-dew-hypothesis . html
Her theory doesn't coincide with alot of evidence that controlled demolition does coincide with.
Be very careful who you trust.
99Eternal 9 months ago
@99Eternal All the more reason to want and demand an honest, independent investigation. I can only say that whatever happened on that day is not what they say happened. That much I do know.
Cathyvalaz 9 months ago
@99Eternal What do you mean by "be very careful who you trust" Careful??? I'm just reading all that is put out there. No one loses by looking at all evidence. Be very careful sounds like a threat or warning. I am not sure what you mean by that. I don't take anyone or any groups that spend 10 years of their lives looking at evidence as something to just dismiss. I do look at ae911 a lot. But I also think that Dr Wood does not get a fair look/ see.
Cathyvalaz 9 months ago
@Cathyvalaz Definitely wasn't a threat lol, but a warning. You are absolutely right it is good to look at all the info. But you need to be careful which info you trust/promote.
Again, Judy Wood has done some great work however she does not have 1500 verified licensed architects and engineers backing her, these very AE911TRUTH have written many papers in response to Judy Wood and I strongly suggest you should read up on why they find many aspects of her theory that doesn't fit evidence etc.
99Eternal 9 months ago
@Cathyvalaz The reason why I am warning you is because there are many elaborate disinformation campaigns out there and if the majority of people trust in one of these disinfo campaigns, if this ever got to a trial scenario, and the disinformation theory was used by the prosecution, it would be quite easy for the defence(government) to then point out all the large holes in the very disinfo theory that they themselves created.
I'm not saying to trust Jones either, just be very careful of disinfo.
99Eternal 9 months ago
Dustification. Where did the towers go dot com
Cathyvalaz 9 months ago
This is not a matter of hypothysis. Ya'll been lied to for 10 goddam years. What the hell is your problem? Did'nt your parents love you enough? Does the big-bad-pschopath scare you? Are you going to let some inbred stupid satanic chicken-fucker frighten you out of your basic senses of self-preservation? Are you going to let them rob your country blind and then bill you for it and hand the rest over to the NWO=OWO? Are you going to ignore the fac t that Pres. B.O. has uniformly broken every...
HowardTLewisIII 10 months ago
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@HowardTLewisIII "..This is not a matter of hypothysis. Ya'll been lied to for 10 goddam years. What the hell is your problem?.."
What the hell's YOUR problem?
Go do some community organizing or something. Maybe you can start a movement.
We'll call it the.. "I'm fu*kin crazy and I'm not going to take it anymore" movement.
no10standard 10 months ago
When are you whelps going to cowboy up and ask the port Authority and developers(Rockefellers) and the involved U.S. government what they did with the records of the preset thermi(a)te compounds and U.S.S.R.-U.S. directed placement of nukes in the basements back in the 1960s. I am tired of this lame pap you people keep rehashing. Get down to it and hand them their ass on a platter like they deserve.
HowardTLewisIII 10 months ago
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@HowardTLewisIII "U.S.S.R.-U.S. directed placement of nukes in the basements back in the 1960s."
Source?
no10standard 10 months ago 2
Jct: The most important point to learn is that NIST used crooked engineers. Most people think scientists and engineers are honest and now we know that government ones are not.
kingofthepaupers 10 months ago
@kingofthepaupers "..The most important point to learn is that NIST used crooked engineers..."
Source?
no10standard 10 months ago
@no10standard Source?
John The Engineer Turmel says so because gasoline can't melt steel. When was the last time the charcoal melted your barbecue? Source? I have a brain, go try and find one too.
kingofthepaupers 10 months ago
@kingofthepaupers
Where to start?
In the NIST report the word "melt" appears only once. pg 29 chap 6. "Structural steel does not need to melt to lose their strength. Their melting points are about 1600 degres, well above the 1,100 c reached by fires of most building combustibles."
But the steel lost most of it's strength at around 800 degrees. And the buildings collapsed.
So it really doesn't matter if " gasoline can't melt steel" .
How ignorant can a person be?
no10standard 10 months ago
@no10standard How ignorant can a person be?
Jct: You're sure trying pretty hard if you didn't notice the buildings fell at freefall speed. If it had pancaked, there would have been resistance from below. Freefall means the understructure had been taken out! How ignorant can a person be? I have a degree in science, evidently you don't or you'd know that.
kingofthepaupers 10 months ago
@kingofthepaupers
All that would really sting if the buildings had actually fallen at freefall speed but since they didn't, I guess you are they only person with a degree in science that can't use a stop watch.
Watch Chandler's video. It runs for 9.5 sec. That happens to be almost the exact "freefall" time most quoted by the mentally challenged truther movement. Only problem is the collapse hasn't finished and the video didn't even start at the beginning.
Game over, truthers lose.
no10standard 10 months ago
@kingofthepaupers
Here is a sampleing of other truther on this very page...
"Freefall speed is not even remotely necessary to indicate controlled demolition - in fact, it features in very few CDs except at the very start.. NellJSmith 3 weeks ago"
"Freefall does occur for 2.25-2.5 seconds of WTC7's fall. Chandler also measured the Twin Towers, and showed it comes down at 2/3 freefall."
iBlindGame 3 weeks ago
Game over, truthers lose.
no10standard 10 months ago
@kingofthepaupers
Chandler's video is really the best visual to demonstrate that the buildings DIDN'T fall at freefall speed. Notice the debris falling down and away from the collapse area. Notice it is well below the collapse and falling faster than the collapse.
If the building were collapsing at freefall speed, why is the debris falling fast than the collapse?
If the building were collapsing at freefall speed, why is the debris falling fast than the collapse?
Game over, truthers lose.
no10standard 10 months ago