If they don't want to keep the baby for any reason, they can give it up for adoption. There are millions of families who want the children, and because our own families in the USA kill ours, they are forced to go to China, Russia, etc. Shameful...
The day will come when our grandchildren will look back at the people of the late 1900's and early 2000's and view the established American policy of abortion with tremendous scorn. Much like we disdain the accepted practice of slavery of earlier Americans, and ask ourselves, "What were they thinking?" ... our grandchildren will look back at US and say, "How could they have been so barbaric? What were they thinking?" And the justices who overturn Roe will be viewed as heroes, like Wilberforce.
Obama's resume- Grauduated from an Elitist University. Moved to Chicago- married a lawyer- Organized middle-age black men to get off thier ass & get a job. Ran for/won a State Senate seat with the aid of the corupt Chicago Dem Machine. Spent 8 years passing ridiculously liberal legislation, supported by Ayers, Rezco, Wright. Won US Senator. Was a rookie, benchwarmer in Senate. Spent time on election circuit bashing Bush. Because of speaking abilities, was selected by Geo. Soras to run for Prez
Thanks for posting this. Now I know NOT to vote for him. If he can vote against the ban on partial birth abortions (which is essentially killing a BORN baby), then he is far too radically irrational for me.
those kinds of abortions are only done when it has been proven that the life of the mother is at risk or if the baby is not developing enough to make it to full-term and then live outside of the womb. we're not talking about babies with downsyndrome or lung problems. we're talking about babies who don't have brains or aren't developing vital organs. these are babies that, no matter what kind of medical intervention you try, won't survive more than a few painful hours.
In a perfect world, I'm sure that might be true. But we don't live in a perfect world where no one breaks laws or procedures. The fact is, most abortions are done for convenience, NOT because a mother's life is in danger. Obama did not vote against the ban in his state, even though it had a provision for the life of the mother. That is totally unreasonable.
that's true- only if the mother's life is in danger. doesn't take the fetus's status into account. a 6-months pregnant woman discovers her child doesn't have a brain or a spine and will die at birth and nothing can be done...you think the government has a right to tell her she HAS to stay pregnant until the day she goes to the hospital to deliver a baby that will die (very painfully) in her arms a few hours later? you think the law can make someone endure that kind of pain?
i like how you think the cause of the "women get abortions for convenience" problem is because of abortions themselves
it's the same as claiming that the cause for all the gun deaths in america is because of guns existing
perhaps, oh I don't know, increased funding to non-profits such as planned parenthood and increasing the education children receive about the true nature and responsibility of parenthood will reduce "abortions of convenience"? no? ah, fuck it just get rid of 'em
LOL...I think you create straw men too much. The point is, most of the arguments for abortion "rights" are red herrings, just like the one Obama puts out about women making these decisions in consultation and so forth. Bull...for the most part it's done arbitrarily and easily and for convenience. And the fact that Roe v Wade exists is part of that convenience.
no a straw man is pointing to a different argument, I provided an analogous argument, if you don't think it's analogous then you need to read it more carefully
are you suggesting that women don't make the decision with the weight it actually carries and instead they just arbitrarily do it whenever it pleases them to do so? you are assuming you somehow know how every women acts in this case and THAT is a re herring, you cannot even PRETEND to know information like that
if someone wants an abortion they should be able to have one. you are entitled to your owns reproductive rights as a US citizen and if i want to have an abortion, i should be allowed one.
Barry Soetero (aka Barack Hussein Obama) has graduated from killing fetuses. In 2003, as a Illinois Senator he voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection, which would provide medical care to infants who survive abortions. So, Barack supports killing INFANTS
an infant who survives an abortion is usually severely severely damaged. brain damage, physical damage, AND not to mention that if an abortion was attempted at such a later stage in the pregnancy, it was most likely done because the mother's health was in dire jeopardy or the baby wouldn't survive after birth despite any medical intervention. they are born in a lot of pain and there is little to nothing that can be done for them. you want them to keep suffering? you want to pay for them?
please quit trying to link abortion with stem cell research, they already proved that they can make adult stem cells mimic embryotic stem cells without the destruction of human life
If you will note that after the presidency of Bill Clinton abortions declined. If you will notice after President Bush there has been a steady rise? Why? Is it the economy? I believe that it is the economy. Now I remember Bill Clinton making it to very many funerals. He mourned with the American people. His wife Hillary was by his side, and I am sure that they had many conversations that we do not know about. She stuck by him and that is why I love her. She took Jesus's road.
Kdeyaktn , To ban war there would have to be a one world Ruler. There will be peace when Jesus Sets up his kingdom on Earth. Before this happens there will be a False Christ who will have the answers to all of the worlds problems, he will be so Charismatic that the whole world will wonder after him. Have you seen anyone like that lately?
Nestacal,I have read the bible abortion bible many times, in fact I read almost every day and have done so for years. I agree that only God has power over life and death. Obama is not God neither are the abortion doctors who kill 4 000 little human beings a day.
What do you think I am spewing? Did I miss something in the Bible? Maybe you could explain it to me.
How can you support the right to life and Barrack Obama at the same time?
I m sorry if you think that I am an Obama fan. Far from it! I think that everything that he spews is wrong and does not think about human beings as human. I do not believe in abortion. My view is that if a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to take care of it after she has it it should be given up for adoption. I believe in Adoption not abortion!
I appologize to you! I cannot support Barack Obama. If you even got the hint of that I am very sorry! I do not support Obama, I DO NOT Support OBAMA! His thinking is wrong! I am sorry that you misunderstood me. I cannot support him in the coming election if he is the democratic nominee! I have always liked Hillary Clinton. I support her ideas and John McCains ideas far more than the ideas of BO.
NestaCal I think that Hillary is pro abortion, I can't support any one who does not believe in the right to life. I know that Hillary is a loyal American, I am not too sure about Obama. McCain is not my favorite. I liked Huckabee better. I think McCain is the best that we can do right now.
aidan9.. A suction abortion tears the child's body limb from limb, in the film "silent scream " the child desperately attempts to flee from the abortionists suction tube. Other children are destroyed by a saline abortion, the solution is injected into the mothers womb the child's nerves are not yet protected by skin. The baby thrashes so violently from the pain it breaks the water sack and is aborted.
Actually, you're wrong. The number of abortion clinics *PER CAPITA* is much higher in wealthy communities of the USA. The majority of abortions are had by wealthy and middle class WHITE women who just can't deal with an unwanted baby because it might put a dent in their social life or "plans for the future".
The urban poor tend to allow the fetus to live, hence the larger families.
The wealthy and middle class women can more easily afford an abortion than poor urban women, they just put it on their Mileage Plus Visa credit card, and earn free airfare from the transaction.
Obama is in favor of murdering babies. How could anyone vote for him? He's pushing all that choice garbage to avoid the real issue. He is an evil man.
Birth Control is not the solution. It is part of the problem. It is estimated that abortifacient contraceptives cause three times the number of abortions that surgical abortions cause. The solution is abstinence from sex outside of marriage. On judgement day we will see the children killed through birth control and abortion. Birth control mentality leads to abortion.
The Pill (1) prevents eggs from being released, (2) hinders sperm by thickening mucus, and (3) alters uterus lining to prevent a fertilized egg from adhering. Only (3) could be considered "abortifacient." The chance of an egg being released when on the Pill is less than 4%, and then the chance of being fertilized is less than 20%.
You'd rather let 288,000 babies be aborted yearly than provide the Pill b/c 2,400 fertilized eggs MIGHT be prevented from adhering to the uterus?!?
Contraceptive mentality and abortion mentality are the same in that contraception seeks to stifle the purpose of sex in preventing a life and abortion destroys the life after it comes into being. Both are closed to life. I'm proposing abstinence outside of marriage as the solution and that married couples be open to life. That will solve the abortion plague and reduce divorce and create happier marriages.
Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, is a pro abortion propaganda outfit posing as a Scholarly publication. Read their mission statement. You can't believe them or Mr stupidOpinionGuy2
TheOpinionGuy2,Guttmacher was an abortionist who was connected with planned parenthood. His hero was Margaret Sanger the founder of radical feminism the original pro abortionist.
Are you telling us that you are not an abortion advocate?
Lincoln said that every time he heard someone advocating slavery he wanted to see it tried on them. In your case it is too bad that Abortion is not retroactive. How would you like be torn limb from limb by a suction machine.
TheOpinionGuy2 , We stop abortion the same way we keep someone from your killing your sorry ass. put all murderers in jail including the abortionist, then there will be less murders including child murders.
Screw you and your manipulated data from your left wing pseudo research organization.
It,s a no brainier Murderers in jail = less abortions
This is the end of my conversation with you I am tired of arguing with a fool.
I do not believe that any woman should be forced to have a baby. The fact is that once a woman becomes pregnant, she will have a baby. The only question remaining is will that child be brutally destroyed or will s/he be allowed to live.
These children are human and have the same right to life as we.
I guess that we old folks will be the next group to be declared expendable with the problems of Social Security .
Jesus said that "as you do unto the least of these you do also unto me"
Actually, you're wrong. The number of abortion clinics per capita is much higher in wealthy communities of the country. The majority of abortions are had by wealthy and middle class white women who just can't deal with an unwanted baby because it might put a dent in their social life or "plans for the future".
The urban poor tend to allow the fetus to live, hence the large single mother families.
No again youre wrong. I have done my research by looking at abortion clinics locations and checking the demographics of the neighborhoods of which the clinics are located. Planned Parenthood, for example has a signicant presence in minority neighborhoods.
"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term.
Obama is not a friend of African Americans. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had over 13 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 31 million, the missing 10 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 41 million persons. It would be 35% larger than it is.
Ho, ho, Sleepy-Eyed Ho-bama. Barak Obama is making his wife have abortions. Barak's parents split, because his dad hurt his mom for having an abortion. Obama was the accidental kid.
Ho, ho, Sleepy-Eyed Ho-bama. Barak Obama is making his wifw have abortions. Barak's parents split, because his dad hit his mom for having an abortion. Obama was an accidental kid.
Having a baby is not called being punished. It's called being responsible. Something that Democrats would do away with completely if they could. I'm incredibly disenfranchised with the Republican Party at the moment as well so I don't endorse any particular candidate with this comment. Side note: Moral issues won the white house for Bush in 2004. His lack of moral judgement will be Obama's downfall cause the GOP will never give anyone a free pass. Though I still predict he wins.
Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban.
In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion.
And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.
People of America, abortion is murder of the weakest, among us it is wrong to KILL, whether you are a believer or not MURDER is evil. Don't support someone who believes that murder is OK.
That is very right. Even rape victims do not deserve the right to an abortion. it is just as easy to just put the baby up for adoption instead of making its life decision for it.
As a woman I'm appalled that other woman who want abortions take the easy way out as though they had NO OTHER CHOICE. When 2 people decide to have sex THAT is when the choice is made. Its obscene to give a woman yet ANOTHER choice to make a bad choice. This is a choice that cannot be taken back.
another position Obama holds on abortion: "people should not be 'punished' with a baby when they make a mistake." well, i think the stupid should be punished, abortion is evil.
I simply think that people should give up on this argument because nothing will ever change. There simply aren't enough people that agree on the subject to change anything.
kkiller:According to you,all upper class people condone abortion,and all lower class people are Pro-Life,right?
I found no stats on that,but I have to agree. Its the redneck hillbilies that are for keeping a women barefoot & pregnant.Its the uneducated that don't know,& hense don't care about the psychology behind raising stable, emotionally healthy kids, assuming breathing is all it needs. The uneducated,that lack a sense of rationality & sound judgement that is needed to consider abortion.
Everyone who wants to make statements like the Nazis were more "humane" need to do some serious research before making that statement. It is absolutely disguisting to make that comparison. I would really appreciate if people actually researched the topic, and stopped saying things like that, thank you.
crimsoncross7, I am glad that you agree , the father made his choice when the couple had consensual sex. Didn't the mother make her choice also. Why does she get to choose again and the father doesn't. How about a "little Equal protection under the law regardless of gender".
Why should a woman be allowed to choose to kill a child that the father is legally responsible for. As you said she made Her choice when she allowed herself to get knocked up
garwoodjc .......How many times did you flunk the first grade? You cant go back in time and see first hand the Nazi brutality, however, why don't you spend an entire day at an abortion slaughter house. P.S. I have no respect for you ! 4,000 slaughtered babies a day...over 50 million since the liberal demons made it legal. Yes, it compares with the jewish extermination but about 10 times as many. You need to wake up and speak up for the defenseless. Then you will earn my respect!
If the Unborn infant is a human being, he/she has a right to the protection life and the protection law. When does the child become a person or when is the last moment that the child can be legally killed?
There is more justification for killing old sick people than for killing infants.
Anyone who dose not understand that all have a right to live is not qualified to hold office . The reason that JOBS ARE OPEN FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS IS THAT WE KILLED THE BABIES.
Everything that you are spewing on the internet that I have read so far allows me to think that you have not read The Bible. If you had, you would change your mind. I blieve that God and God alone has the right to give life and to take it away!
garwoodjc... You are either naive, ignorant, or malicious. Lets see.....if the baby's toes are less than 3 milimeters, etc, etc, etc!!! This is Nazi WWII mutilation mindset. You offend God, all while taking such a passive/liberal new age approach to old fashioned MURDER!
Nazi WWII mutilation?! How can you say that?! Do you have any idea what horrors went on in those concentration camps? I don't think you do, or else you wouldn't have made that comparison. Don't compare a completely legal/sanitary procedure with something like the holocaust, that makes me sick! And don't accuse me of being malicious because of my personal opinion. I haven't been calling you any names, why don't you extend the same courtesy, and show a little maturity!
garwoodjc In the abortion chambers human beings are scalded with chemicals(saline) cut to pieces (D&C) or stabbed in the head and their brains sucked out alive without anesthesia.(PBA)
The comparison is:The Nazis were more humane,(they gassed and burned) in exterminating undesirables than the abortionist. Both were legal and sanitary
The Abortionist and the Nazi both were ridding the world of unwanted humans.
The Nazis were just wannabees compared to the abortionist.
CharlieRight, you couldn't be more wrong! 90% of abortions are done in the first trimester, where none of those procedures take place that you described. And it is completely innapropriate to compare them to Nazi brutalities. The Nazis besides "gassing and burning" did experiments to sterilize people, experiments on twins, they froze people with probes in their rectums, they infected them with diseases, etc. etc.! How ignorant are you? Do some research before you make a statement like that!
Nazis also tortured people who were incompetent and couldn't do their work. They were whipped and scarred and beaten, probably several times a day and for many weeks, months, even years.
To say that abortionists are like Nazis is way too far and above and beyond. The "baby" is only getting cut up only once, that is it. I support abortions at any term for any reason because a fetus is given the chance to live, rather than actually living.
You know folks.....all you so called pro choicers will pay to the Lord on Judgement Day. Abortion....the scourge of America. It needs to be illegal - should have never been legal - but thanks to the liberal scum!
The doctor took scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect face I have ever seen."
" I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet.
lanainfla, I'm not attacking you personally, as i told other people in these comments. I'm just stating my opinion. Now i can agree with you that a late 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion is not right. The baby's development is almost done, it can feel pain, and can live outside the womb. At that point the parent(s) should choose to not have an abortion in most cases. It's not necessary to tell people that they will be judged by God because of their personal opinion. Stop being so negative.
garwoodjc Abortion is just like any other sin, why don't you repent for the one that you were involved in and you want have to worry about being judged by God.
lanainfla, fingers and toes don't develop until two months into development, and please don't call me a liberal fake ass, we're all just ordinary people with our own personal views
AiMiLoOo ....you are doing God's work in telling your story. Don't let these air heads get you down with their ease of accepting abortion like it was normal and humane. I am proud of you.
maryRidilo .....no logic to your little speech. Did you ever spend a day at an abortion clinic?? It's murder you fool. The damn mothers won't protect them so we must! Embryos......it's so easy for you to say this word......however, it's a baby in the early stages....hands, feet, head, etc. They will never see first grade idiot, nor will they dance, sing, breathe, love or eat! You liberal fake asses really need to seek Jesus in a hurry. Obama/Hillary are King and Queen of this cruel act.
lanainfla, fingers and toes don't come along until two months into development, and please don't call me a liberal fake ass, we're all just ordinary people with our own personal views.
Conservatives always care more about the fetus than they do about the child. They rant about abortion but then they slash funding for child care, education, children's health care and other services that help children. They don't vote to help single moms - or "deadbeat welfare moms".
If the child in the woomb is so improtant, then don't abandon them them moment they're born.
How about teaching children values and common sense before sex, consequences and responsibility? How many pregnant teens slept on your couch when thrown out, how many have you babysat for, convinced to go back to school, helped find a job/grants for college and tell them they're better than welfare, go to court with them to get support from those who shirked?; How many graduations of said children have you gone to? I've lived it. You do something besides ranting. The gov't is not daddy.
Mary , Thats is just a big lie, there are hundreds of right to life ministries that will take mothers to be. I helped to build the liberty God parents homes in lynchburg and a home called " Room at the Inn.
We all have a Right to live including the unborn child. That Child is Human and deserves the protection of the law just as old folks like me.
I think that it was Bill Clinton who signed the welfare bill that required recipients to go to work.
i understand some of you are opposed to abortion, but i just don't think it's right for a few congressman to make such a personal decision for a woman
garwood: But it's right 4 a woman 2 make such an important decision 4 a baby & often the father? Do U know how many people R on the waiting list 4 a baby & will never know the joy of a tiny hand wrapped around their index finger, a soft coo in their ear, or the simple words "Mommy" or "Daddy" & yet some1 else is willing 2 cut it up & throw it in the trash as if it has no right 2 B a person just b/c it's not a good time or they don't want 2 go through pregnancy right now. God help us.
mismindles, there are many other reasons why a woman would get an abortion, not just because it's "not a good time". There are many different circumstances that they are experiencing. I don't know all of them, and neither do you. That's why the woman needs to make the choice, in my opinion. Please don't take this as an attack on you personally, but it's just an opinion.
garwood:I don't consider it a personal attack. For once it's nice to come to a place on Youtube & have a peaceful talk a/b a serious topic w/o every1 name calling & getting belligerent. I know there R lots of reasons but the most common reason is inconvenience. If I had my wish-people would respect themselves & respect each other (men & boys respecting women, women respecting themselves, their bodies & their babies) & if we all did that- the abortion rate would nearly fall off the charts. :-)
Why dont the father have anything to say about weather his child lives or dies. The Killing of human being should not be left up to the mother or anyone else.
Women make the " difficult decision " 4000 times a day. Most of them are coerced into it by someone else.
Why cant we kill anyone who becomes a problem for us?
Garwood, What is the personal decision? a pregnant women will have a baby. That decision has already been made. The only thing left to decide is will the Child be killed or will he/she be allowed to live.
Why should a woman be able to impose the responsibilities of parenthood on a man if she chooses not to kill the baby?
maybe thats why so many fathers don't feel responsible for a woman's choice.
Most of the time the Abortion is not a choice but a coercion by others.
Women in both of these countries are becoming a smaller and smaller minority; check the stats if you don't believe, the Internet is at your fingertips and there is no excuse of being ignorant to these facts. Simple reasoning concludes that minorities have less of a say in anything, less control, less representation; women are becoming more and more that minority and this is the result of sex-selective abortion. ABORTION. ironic how the world works, huh? just my two cents.
B/C abortion undeniably involves a degree of physical and emotional pain, the decision cannot be viewed apart from the motivating factors. Personal problems, social pressure, lack of support from family, society, friends, suggest that the choice is never a voluntary one. It's more likely that women submit to abortions,not so much because they have a CHOICE, but B/c they feel they have no choice at all! Abortion doesn't promote social & economic justice, nor does it compensate for the lack of it.
I wasn't talking about the right to choose except for 3rd trimester abortions when babies are out and alive. p.s. i've had 3 comments removed from this site without being posted speaking of freedom of speech.
third trimester abortions are wrong and in the ill. legisture obama supported them and even times when they were born alive and left to die.i call that murder because it is-no matter what your views on abortion are.
A womans right to choose - I would die to protect that.
Why bring an unwanted child into the world. The suffering is dreadful. Look at some of the child abuse cases in the UK where children were born to unwed teenage mothers who didn't want the child but just had unprotected sex. The baby was then sexually abused by the boyfriend and beaten and burnt to death.
So you would die to allow women to continually kill their fetuses? Women's right to chose is like saying women's right to kill because that is what they are doing. What has this country come to where we think its ok to take away the life of an innocent child? A LIFE IS A LIFE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
So you would die to allow women to continually kill their fetuses? Women's right to chose is like saying women's right to kill because that is what they are doing. What has this country come to where we think its ok to take away the life of an innocent child? A LIFE IS A LIFE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
"...mothers who didn't want the child but just had unprotected sex. ...'
WHAT?!?!?!? This is the most twisted logic I've ever heard! ABORTION should NOT ever be used as a flipping form of "birth control"!!
Good God!! "Accepting short-term solutions like abortion only delays the implementation of REAL reforms like decent maternity and paternity leaves, job protection, high quality child care" Daphne de Jong
Don't you GET it? Women in America have been CONNED! true feminism is pro-life!
People who don't care about BIRTH CONTROL are not going to make very good parents....I don't want to see another unwanted child brought into the world..
You can't stop people having sex...But you can give them the choice not to bring a child who will be brought up badly, no doubt hurt others or be badly hurt themselves...Better they weren't born!
those 'unwanted children' have already been brought into the world; you can't see them because the mother's womb isn't transparent, and it's much more difficult to sympathize with something or someone whne you can't see them. it's the same thing with world poverty; it's not right in front of our faces and although we know about it it's easy to turn a blind eye.
go to this website and you'll see what really goes on in the womb: ehd[dot]org
these babies have already been brought into the world.
as MkMcHale said, adoption's always an option. those 'unwanted' children are ALWAYS wanted; visit any adoption website and read the letters of the eager, yearning, hopeful adoptive parents. you should research the great degree of difficulty adoptive parents go though in order to adopt a child. unwanted? most definitely not.
truebot: U R assuming the mother keeps the child when she doesn't want it. How a/b adoption? In that case the child gets everything-parents that want it, usually a wealthy family & if not a wealthy family, then a family who spent every dollar they had 2 get a baby-now THAT is being wanted & loved!
Also-sometimes people care a/b birth control but they get caught N the heat of the moment, weren't expecting 2 have sex & figure-what R the odds? unfortunately my best friend is facing this now.
I agree that the best solution is for the unwanted baby to be adopted. However, this does not happen in what I see around me everyday. I see bad mothers raising children by themselves and bringing up the next generation of bad mothers and absentee fathers. Perhaps they should be forced to give up their children if abortion is not available. I would actually vote for that.
truebot: I can agree that there R plenty of bad mothers- unfortunately THEY R the ones that always WANT the baby. A/b not seeing women give up their babies for adoption- I have to say-I know a girl who would not make a good mother & knows it-& why she doesn't just use protection I have no idea, but she has given up 3 babies 4 adoption. She doesn't believe in abortion & she says she loves to see the look on a parent's face when she gives them a baby & she knows the child will be loved & wanted.
i agree with you 100%. furthermore, what's up with the "50 million women missing in India" and even more missing in China because of sex-selective ABORTION? true feminism really should be pro-life.
Whats sad is that before abortion those babies were born, held by their mothers and then taken away and put in the ground.
In China when a baby is to be born they dig a hole....If it is a boy they plant a tree. If it is a girl they bury her in it...Nice thought to leave you with.
trubot, there are much evil that exists in the world. abandoning one's child is wrong; killing one's child, whether in the womb or out of the womb, is wrong. the one-child policy has become more lenient and families are now able to have more than one child because of many factors, but mostly because if that one child dies and the parents aren't able to have more kids, then the gov't is burdened with caring for the parents and grandparents on welfare. that's 6 people the gov't is burdened with.
i have had a personal experience with abortion, and let me tell you.. it's not all the glory and greatness and relief that it's made out to be. when you are actually faced with an abortion decision, come talk to me. it's the most difficult decision to make and it haunts the mother and father forever. come talk to me after you've experienced that anguish. i used to be pro-choice as well; i had no idea what i was talking about when i was pro-choice. i was like, "hell yes, all for women's rights!"
WOW AiMiloOo- that was brave and honorable of you to be so vulnerable on here to total strangers. I applaud you 100% I am so happy that you took your bad experience and are using it for good. Wow-just wow!
Bingo. There are two victims, not one. They can scream all they want re: outta sight, outta mind and no responsibility... but when you see someone pregnant, baby with their mom after an abortion, it's there. Think what type of non-human, so-called woman can say it's nothing to them... as they kill other potential women who didn't have a choice. What makes a female a woman, what does the callous multiple abortions do to her as a human being, how about men... how can that make them a man?
what's truly ironic is that abortion is biting women in the ass. it is very, very obvious that male children are MUCH more valued than female children. boys carry on the family name and are the ones to take care of their parents when they grow old. however when females are married off, they belong to the husband's family and don't care for her own parents in old age. this happens most in China and India, who together account for over a third of the world's population.
If it's only a child after it comes out of the womb, and it's life comes from the mother then Obama is white. So why does he act like a black man if the life comes from the mother and she is white.
Barack Obama says he support abortion and is also a Christian. How can this be? If abortion is ok then wouldn't it have been okay for Mary to abort Jesus? If so where would Christianity be?
hydrol:I keep asking myself this very ? a/b Barack & I was starting 2 think I was the only 1 who thought a/b it. I watched all the hoopla a/b his pastor & the 1st thing I thought was "I bet this guy (Wright) believes in abortion" & I thought it was a complete waste of time 2 hear all a/b Barack's church & his controversial pastor & Barack say "This is the man that lead me to Christ" None of it mattered 2 me a bit-b/c I know that if he truly- I mean TRULY knew Christ, he couldn't B 4 abortion.
Partial birth abortion is performed late in pregnancy in a gruesome inhumane manner. If anyone saw this procedure, they would not tolerate its use in any way. If a woman wants to terminate her pregnancy, why can't we enforce that she can do it early on while the baby is too young to feel the pain that abortion inflicts? It's still murder to me at any stage of gestation, but I agree there are circumstances when a woman's life and well-being are too fragile to continue the pregnancy.
Yes, abortion is murder but there might be exceptions, 30% of all pregnancies are miscarried... many of them as a result of genetic disorders which the mothers body recognizes and then aborts the pregnancy. Sometimes that mechanism fails and a fetus with no chance of survival could threaten the life of the mother if there is not an induced miscarriage/ abortion. Im just not sure if I can call that murder.
I think people simply don't want to take responsibility for their own actions Solideo, but I guess that is about the same thing. The sexual freedom even if it kills a baby does raise two interesting questions: doesn't killing a child impinge upon their human rights and aren't we supposed to enjoy our rights as long as they don't impinge on the rights of others?
No one is telling women they have to get pregnant or they can't have sex. This is supposed to be America, where human beings have opportunity to make better lives for themselves. To suggest that we should kill babies in the womb simply because they may be born into poverty seems anti-American. How about people CHOOSE not to get pregnant if they don't want a baby? Rape abortions are less than 10%, Broken condom, then sue. Don't give the right to murder to everyone to appease a few exceptions.
From your words and pro-dictates they are. You are indeed saying if you are gonna have sex period, you must go through pregnancy. Accidents happen, but you should not force a couple who had a broken condom to sue and keep an unnecessary life. Suing can have more damaging effects than not allowing a human into the world. One person for the well-being of our society is not the right answer. Suing costs society money, businesses money, and government money.
Newsflash: You can have sex without getting pregnant!!!!!!
Not only that, but I'm sure a little innovation could lead to better condoms, and the manufacturers could improve testing.
Again, you can choose to use protection or take birth control, or you could choose to be careless and hope for the best. Heck, you could even wait until marriage and then have a child in a responsible relationship. There are options, and I don't think it could have been said any clearer than that.
For now though, we must accept the fact that women have to abort an unborn child when condoms or other birth control fails. You might not like it, but it takes patience and acceptance.
Patience and acceptance. Wow, what a concept. See, I think that people should show enough patience to at least go get a condom or wait until the birth control kicks in, and it would be nice if people accepted responsibility for the lives they bring into this world. In the meantime, I will support movements to protect unborn children from being killed in the womb.
What did I tell you about condoms? They are not 100% effective. Abortions must be kept available regardless of an outcome. And accepting responsibility includes raising the child even after postnatal period.
For once I agree with you, accepting responsibility fully does mean raising the child. In order to get there, we have to get people to stop intentionally killing their children before birth. Still though, you act as if condoms are the only means of birth control; they aren't. Also, I don't think the odds of them failing are very high at all. Not to mention that after they fail, the woman has to be at a part of her cycle where she is likely to conceive.
I sould add some stats. A study by D. Hollander on condom failure (available through JSTOR) using about 800 women and 8000 condom uses found failure rates of 3% and 6% for mail and female condoms on average. After some experience, those rates decreased to about 2%. for such, I recommend morning after pill. Also, heartbeat and head appear at 5-7 weeks. Brain response to light has been recorded while in the womb. The more we look, the more life signs we seem to find.
A fetus which is allowed to live and mature inside the womb will become a human child. While it is true that complications in birth are possible, the fetus has a very different potential for human life than any other cell or mass of cells in the body. Therefore, killing a fetus isn't simply scraping some growth, but murdering a child-to-be.
Obama loves free will, not the killing of so-called live babies. Unborn children can be sacrificed for the sake of a woman's free right to be herself because unborn children are only property. They do not have any physical, mental, emotional, or sensual capability to survive. They need to be taken care of before birth when they are proven they can be fed to, interacted with, they show emotion, intellect, and perception and reaction to the environment. Please, do not treat women as bitches.
a baby that survives late term abortion and is born is a live baby. Obama refused to vote for a bill that would declare a baby lying on the table, separate from the mother and crying, alive if it had survived an abortion procedure. I would expect even pro-fetus killers to find this utterly disgusting.
SolideoGloriafella...it's obvious to me that heroikrobb is trying to mess with us...the argument of this person is almost laughable if not for the fact that some people obviously believe this dribble. "They (babies) don't have the ...SENSUAL capability to survive..." wow...
You need 3 senses to survive. Without these, you cannot survive at all. You guys see us humans as slaves in a way, or an image. You say, the more there is the better. What is the point of you guys trying to declare an unborn child life? Face it, an unborn child is an unnecessary product of the mother and she does not have to have that for survival. In fact, you don't have to have a reproductive system to survive, which is why we choose to abort unborn children.
In the Barack Obama-Abortion video, Barack mentions how holding up one type of abortion to anger people is a bad idea. If you recognize partial birth abortion as torturous and disgusting, why won't you vote against at least the "bad" types of abortion? I've seen the percents for rape, they are always in the single digits. Women have the choice to take birth control, be virtuous, have men use condoms, ect., but a person does not have the right to end the life of another for convenience.
Everyone, stop saying "baby". An embryo is not a baby.
gpeuhqt 1 year ago 2
If they don't want to keep the baby for any reason, they can give it up for adoption. There are millions of families who want the children, and because our own families in the USA kill ours, they are forced to go to China, Russia, etc. Shameful...
JennyLeitch1 3 years ago
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The day will come when our grandchildren will look back at the people of the late 1900's and early 2000's and view the established American policy of abortion with tremendous scorn. Much like we disdain the accepted practice of slavery of earlier Americans, and ask ourselves, "What were they thinking?" ... our grandchildren will look back at US and say, "How could they have been so barbaric? What were they thinking?" And the justices who overturn Roe will be viewed as heroes, like Wilberforce.
ppastorppaul 3 years ago
McCain/Palin
Leezer1340 3 years ago
Obama's resume- Grauduated from an Elitist University. Moved to Chicago- married a lawyer- Organized middle-age black men to get off thier ass & get a job. Ran for/won a State Senate seat with the aid of the corupt Chicago Dem Machine. Spent 8 years passing ridiculously liberal legislation, supported by Ayers, Rezco, Wright. Won US Senator. Was a rookie, benchwarmer in Senate. Spent time on election circuit bashing Bush. Because of speaking abilities, was selected by Geo. Soras to run for Prez
sxobekuj 3 years ago 2
Obama & IL Infants Born Alive Act - to learn more.
You tube:
Jill Stanek Talks About Her Experience With Live Birth Abortion
teton99 3 years ago 4
Homicide since Roe v Wade is a legal right.
theruteger 3 years ago
I agree with Obama, abortion is a necessity when a mothers life is at risk physically. Also if there is an issue of mental instability.
The anti abortion nutters, (I mean here the ones who threaten doctors, nurses aswell as the mothers who carry out and have abortions)
should be sent in a ship to the mid Atlantic, and then have the ship sunk.
roac7777 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Now I know NOT to vote for him. If he can vote against the ban on partial birth abortions (which is essentially killing a BORN baby), then he is far too radically irrational for me.
CRoadwarrior 3 years ago
those kinds of abortions are only done when it has been proven that the life of the mother is at risk or if the baby is not developing enough to make it to full-term and then live outside of the womb. we're not talking about babies with downsyndrome or lung problems. we're talking about babies who don't have brains or aren't developing vital organs. these are babies that, no matter what kind of medical intervention you try, won't survive more than a few painful hours.
foxylilminx 3 years ago
In a perfect world, I'm sure that might be true. But we don't live in a perfect world where no one breaks laws or procedures. The fact is, most abortions are done for convenience, NOT because a mother's life is in danger. Obama did not vote against the ban in his state, even though it had a provision for the life of the mother. That is totally unreasonable.
CRoadwarrior 3 years ago
that's true- only if the mother's life is in danger. doesn't take the fetus's status into account. a 6-months pregnant woman discovers her child doesn't have a brain or a spine and will die at birth and nothing can be done...you think the government has a right to tell her she HAS to stay pregnant until the day she goes to the hospital to deliver a baby that will die (very painfully) in her arms a few hours later? you think the law can make someone endure that kind of pain?
foxylilminx 3 years ago
i like how you think the cause of the "women get abortions for convenience" problem is because of abortions themselves
it's the same as claiming that the cause for all the gun deaths in america is because of guns existing
perhaps, oh I don't know, increased funding to non-profits such as planned parenthood and increasing the education children receive about the true nature and responsibility of parenthood will reduce "abortions of convenience"? no? ah, fuck it just get rid of 'em
chrissphinx 3 years ago
LOL...I think you create straw men too much. The point is, most of the arguments for abortion "rights" are red herrings, just like the one Obama puts out about women making these decisions in consultation and so forth. Bull...for the most part it's done arbitrarily and easily and for convenience. And the fact that Roe v Wade exists is part of that convenience.
CRoadwarrior 3 years ago
no a straw man is pointing to a different argument, I provided an analogous argument, if you don't think it's analogous then you need to read it more carefully
are you suggesting that women don't make the decision with the weight it actually carries and instead they just arbitrarily do it whenever it pleases them to do so? you are assuming you somehow know how every women acts in this case and THAT is a re herring, you cannot even PRETEND to know information like that
chrissphinx 3 years ago
if someone wants an abortion they should be able to have one. you are entitled to your owns reproductive rights as a US citizen and if i want to have an abortion, i should be allowed one.
mnkyspz1 3 years ago
can some one please answer my question......IS BARACK OBAMA FOR ABORTION?????????
lapana29 3 years ago
Yes.
Joelduffy 3 years ago
yes he is
mnkyspz1 3 years ago
He is PRO CHOICE.
He is for allowing the woman to make her own decision.
Mauliana 3 years ago
Barry Soetero (aka Barack Hussein Obama) has graduated from killing fetuses. In 2003, as a Illinois Senator he voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection, which would provide medical care to infants who survive abortions. So, Barack supports killing INFANTS
Brianamor78 3 years ago
an infant who survives an abortion is usually severely severely damaged. brain damage, physical damage, AND not to mention that if an abortion was attempted at such a later stage in the pregnancy, it was most likely done because the mother's health was in dire jeopardy or the baby wouldn't survive after birth despite any medical intervention. they are born in a lot of pain and there is little to nothing that can be done for them. you want them to keep suffering? you want to pay for them?
foxylilminx 3 years ago
please quit trying to link abortion with stem cell research, they already proved that they can make adult stem cells mimic embryotic stem cells without the destruction of human life
EdMajinLee199999 3 years ago 2
If you will note that after the presidency of Bill Clinton abortions declined. If you will notice after President Bush there has been a steady rise? Why? Is it the economy? I believe that it is the economy. Now I remember Bill Clinton making it to very many funerals. He mourned with the American people. His wife Hillary was by his side, and I am sure that they had many conversations that we do not know about. She stuck by him and that is why I love her. She took Jesus's road.
NestaCal 3 years ago
If abortion is banned we ban war too being that they both prematurely deny people right to live
Kdeyaktn 3 years ago
Kdeyaktn , To ban war there would have to be a one world Ruler. There will be peace when Jesus Sets up his kingdom on Earth. Before this happens there will be a False Christ who will have the answers to all of the worlds problems, he will be so Charismatic that the whole world will wonder after him. Have you seen anyone like that lately?
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Nestacal,I have read the bible abortion bible many times, in fact I read almost every day and have done so for years. I agree that only God has power over life and death. Obama is not God neither are the abortion doctors who kill 4 000 little human beings a day.
What do you think I am spewing? Did I miss something in the Bible? Maybe you could explain it to me.
How can you support the right to life and Barrack Obama at the same time?
Are you sure that you are reading my comments?
TX
CharlieRight 3 years ago
I m sorry if you think that I am an Obama fan. Far from it! I think that everything that he spews is wrong and does not think about human beings as human. I do not believe in abortion. My view is that if a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to take care of it after she has it it should be given up for adoption. I believe in Adoption not abortion!
NestaCal 3 years ago
NestaCal, Sorry, I forgot what we were discussing.
Babys are human and should be covered by the inalienable rights clause in the declaration.
when people are to be destroyed they are always classed a sub human, Just like Hitlers destruction of the inferiors.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
I appologize to you! I cannot support Barack Obama. If you even got the hint of that I am very sorry! I do not support Obama, I DO NOT Support OBAMA! His thinking is wrong! I am sorry that you misunderstood me. I cannot support him in the coming election if he is the democratic nominee! I have always liked Hillary Clinton. I support her ideas and John McCains ideas far more than the ideas of BO.
NestaCal 3 years ago
NestaCal I think that Hillary is pro abortion, I can't support any one who does not believe in the right to life. I know that Hillary is a loyal American, I am not too sure about Obama. McCain is not my favorite. I liked Huckabee better. I think McCain is the best that we can do right now.
TX
Charles
CharlieRight 3 years ago
im with you charlie, bring back Huckabee!!! wooo, lol
EdMajinLee199999 3 years ago
The abortion issue is probably going to be a deal breaker for me.... Sorry Barack.
mm3861 3 years ago
Call it whatever you want. Babies are still being killed. God will repay these murdering pricks.
mm3861 3 years ago
Wealthy white women love their safe, legal abortions. They solve their "problems" with the swipe of a credit card and then they go shopping!
RealBubba1 3 years ago
Wealthy white women love their safe, legal abortions. They solve their "problems" with the swipe of a credit card.
RealBubba1 3 years ago
aidan9.. A suction abortion tears the child's body limb from limb, in the film "silent scream " the child desperately attempts to flee from the abortionists suction tube. Other children are destroyed by a saline abortion, the solution is injected into the mothers womb the child's nerves are not yet protected by skin. The baby thrashes so violently from the pain it breaks the water sack and is aborted.
continued........
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Actually, you're wrong. The number of abortion clinics *PER CAPITA* is much higher in wealthy communities of the USA. The majority of abortions are had by wealthy and middle class WHITE women who just can't deal with an unwanted baby because it might put a dent in their social life or "plans for the future".
The urban poor tend to allow the fetus to live, hence the larger families.
RealBubba1 3 years ago
The wealthy and middle class women can more easily afford an abortion than poor urban women, they just put it on their Mileage Plus Visa credit card, and earn free airfare from the transaction.
RealBubba1 3 years ago
Obama is in favor of murdering babies. How could anyone vote for him? He's pushing all that choice garbage to avoid the real issue. He is an evil man.
imbonnie 3 years ago
If you want to save unborn babies, then provide (1) education about sex and (2) access to birth control.
BIRTH CONTROL SAVES UNBORN BABIES' LIVES!!!
Roughly 300,000 abortions per year could be prevented in the US if education and birth control were widely available.
That's a lot of dead babies that could be saved. Let's save them!!!
The data don't lie. Only people do.
Google: Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, Feb 2001, Vol 4, No 1
TheOpinionGuy2 3 years ago
Birth Control is not the solution. It is part of the problem. It is estimated that abortifacient contraceptives cause three times the number of abortions that surgical abortions cause. The solution is abstinence from sex outside of marriage. On judgement day we will see the children killed through birth control and abortion. Birth control mentality leads to abortion.
imbonnie 3 years ago 2
The Pill (1) prevents eggs from being released, (2) hinders sperm by thickening mucus, and (3) alters uterus lining to prevent a fertilized egg from adhering. Only (3) could be considered "abortifacient." The chance of an egg being released when on the Pill is less than 4%, and then the chance of being fertilized is less than 20%.
You'd rather let 288,000 babies be aborted yearly than provide the Pill b/c 2,400 fertilized eggs MIGHT be prevented from adhering to the uterus?!?
Crazy!!!
TheOpinionGuy2 3 years ago
Contraceptive mentality and abortion mentality are the same in that contraception seeks to stifle the purpose of sex in preventing a life and abortion destroys the life after it comes into being. Both are closed to life. I'm proposing abstinence outside of marriage as the solution and that married couples be open to life. That will solve the abortion plague and reduce divorce and create happier marriages.
imbonnie 3 years ago
Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, is a pro abortion propaganda outfit posing as a Scholarly publication. Read their mission statement. You can't believe them or Mr stupidOpinionGuy2
CharlieRight 3 years ago
TheOpinionGuy2 , Why do you keep quoting that left wing pro abortion publication. they lie just as much as you do .
CharlieRight 3 years ago
The Guttmacher data come from the World Health Organization.
Is the WHO a "left wing" group?
:bang head:
TheOpinionGuy2 3 years ago
TheOpinionGuy2,Guttmacher was an abortionist who was connected with planned parenthood. His hero was Margaret Sanger the founder of radical feminism the original pro abortionist.
Are you telling us that you are not an abortion advocate?
Lincoln said that every time he heard someone advocating slavery he wanted to see it tried on them. In your case it is too bad that Abortion is not retroactive. How would you like be torn limb from limb by a suction machine.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
The DATA...you know...the stuff that tells the TRUTH IN THE REAL WORLD confirms that outlawing abortion does not get rid of abortion.
If you want to stop abortions, then help women to not get pregnant when their man rolls over at night and demands sex.
The DATA IN THE REAL WORLD shows that providing education and birth control prevents unwanted pregnancy.
Why not prevent unwanted pregnancy and save nearly 300,000 unborns from being ripped apart?
It's a no-brainer. E + BC != Abortion
TheOpinionGuy2 3 years ago
TheOpinionGuy2 , We stop abortion the same way we keep someone from your killing your sorry ass. put all murderers in jail including the abortionist, then there will be less murders including child murders.
Screw you and your manipulated data from your left wing pseudo research organization.
It,s a no brainier Murderers in jail = less abortions
This is the end of my conversation with you I am tired of arguing with a fool.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
.....aidan9
I do not believe that any woman should be forced to have a baby. The fact is that once a woman becomes pregnant, she will have a baby. The only question remaining is will that child be brutally destroyed or will s/he be allowed to live.
These children are human and have the same right to life as we.
I guess that we old folks will be the next group to be declared expendable with the problems of Social Security .
Jesus said that "as you do unto the least of these you do also unto me"
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Did you ever notice that the wealthiest communities always have an abortion clinic nearby?
RealBubba1 3 years ago
Actually, there are more abortion clinics in poor urban areas than in wealthy communities.
kcballintyp 3 years ago
Actually, you're wrong. The number of abortion clinics per capita is much higher in wealthy communities of the country. The majority of abortions are had by wealthy and middle class white women who just can't deal with an unwanted baby because it might put a dent in their social life or "plans for the future".
The urban poor tend to allow the fetus to live, hence the large single mother families.
RealBubba1 3 years ago
No again youre wrong. I have done my research by looking at abortion clinics locations and checking the demographics of the neighborhoods of which the clinics are located. Planned Parenthood, for example has a signicant presence in minority neighborhoods.
kcballintyp 3 years ago
RealBubba1 , What do you know about it do they have them in Togo?
You are an Obama Shill, spreading bullshit
CharlieRight 3 years ago
"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term.
Obama Is the Most Pro-Abortion Candidate Ever
By Terence P. Jeffrey
HOPE!?
teton99 3 years ago
Obama is not a friend of African Americans. It has been estimated that since 1973 Black women have had over 13 million abortions. Michael Novak had calculated "Since the number of current living Blacks (in the U.S.) is 31 million, the missing 10 million represents an enormous loss, for without abortion, America's Black community would now number 41 million persons. It would be 35% larger than it is.
henry34florida 3 years ago
Ho, ho, Sleepy-Eyed Ho-bama. Barak Obama is making his wife have abortions. Barak's parents split, because his dad hurt his mom for having an abortion. Obama was the accidental kid.
Inteckno 3 years ago
Ho, ho, Sleepy-Eyed Ho-bama. Barak Obama is making his wifw have abortions. Barak's parents split, because his dad hit his mom for having an abortion. Obama was an accidental kid.
Inteckno 3 years ago
Sunnis and Shiites killing eachother: we would say dont.
Mom killing her own child: we SHOULD say NO. Pro-Life.Life for the innocent.
WatchVideos4Fun 3 years ago
Having a baby is not called being punished. It's called being responsible. Something that Democrats would do away with completely if they could. I'm incredibly disenfranchised with the Republican Party at the moment as well so I don't endorse any particular candidate with this comment. Side note: Moral issues won the white house for Bush in 2004. His lack of moral judgement will be Obama's downfall cause the GOP will never give anyone a free pass. Though I still predict he wins.
ptricky15 3 years ago
Obama opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion
Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban.
In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion.
And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.
ArboriusOwns 3 years ago 3
People of America, abortion is murder of the weakest, among us it is wrong to KILL, whether you are a believer or not MURDER is evil. Don't support someone who believes that murder is OK.
rahk67 3 years ago 4
That is very right. Even rape victims do not deserve the right to an abortion. it is just as easy to just put the baby up for adoption instead of making its life decision for it.
D3g1532 3 years ago
As a woman I'm appalled that other woman who want abortions take the easy way out as though they had NO OTHER CHOICE. When 2 people decide to have sex THAT is when the choice is made. Its obscene to give a woman yet ANOTHER choice to make a bad choice. This is a choice that cannot be taken back.
3swelldogs 3 years ago 3
another position Obama holds on abortion: "people should not be 'punished' with a baby when they make a mistake." well, i think the stupid should be punished, abortion is evil.
McCain For President.
SaintMephistoph 3 years ago 3
Oh, and by the way... According to you, all upper class people condone abortion, and all lower class people are Pro-Life, right?
At least it appears that that's what you're trying to say.
More assumptions? Try making an argument based on FACT, eh?
kkillerxqueenxx 3 years ago
kkillerxqueenxx, It is a fact that the majority of aborted babies are poor or minorities.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Why WOULD I be threatened by unborn babies?
I simply think that people should give up on this argument because nothing will ever change. There simply aren't enough people that agree on the subject to change anything.
kkillerxqueenxx 3 years ago
kkiller:According to you,all upper class people condone abortion,and all lower class people are Pro-Life,right?
I found no stats on that,but I have to agree. Its the redneck hillbilies that are for keeping a women barefoot & pregnant.Its the uneducated that don't know,& hense don't care about the psychology behind raising stable, emotionally healthy kids, assuming breathing is all it needs. The uneducated,that lack a sense of rationality & sound judgement that is needed to consider abortion.
sueezee 3 years ago
No to Barack Obama.
silvermoon577 3 years ago
Everyone who wants to make statements like the Nazis were more "humane" need to do some serious research before making that statement. It is absolutely disguisting to make that comparison. I would really appreciate if people actually researched the topic, and stopped saying things like that, thank you.
garwoodjc 3 years ago
crimsoncross7 ...Thank You
lanainfla 3 years ago
These are actually reason why we should never vote for Barack Obama.
Ron Paul! or Hillary if there is no other choice. Never McCain or Obama.
B0thergirl 3 years ago
Ron Paul!
cbproducktions 3 years ago
kmcl11..I better elaborate....dark, meaning evil..not African!
lanainfla 3 years ago
kmcl11..Obama has a dark soul
lanainfla 3 years ago
crimsoncross7, I am glad that you agree , the father made his choice when the couple had consensual sex. Didn't the mother make her choice also. Why does she get to choose again and the father doesn't. How about a "little Equal protection under the law regardless of gender".
Why should a woman be allowed to choose to kill a child that the father is legally responsible for. As you said she made Her choice when she allowed herself to get knocked up
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Terrible that Obama believes in PBA.
kmcl11 3 years ago 2
garwoodjc .......How many times did you flunk the first grade? You cant go back in time and see first hand the Nazi brutality, however, why don't you spend an entire day at an abortion slaughter house. P.S. I have no respect for you ! 4,000 slaughtered babies a day...over 50 million since the liberal demons made it legal. Yes, it compares with the jewish extermination but about 10 times as many. You need to wake up and speak up for the defenseless. Then you will earn my respect!
lanainfla 3 years ago 5
If the Unborn infant is a human being, he/she has a right to the protection life and the protection law. When does the child become a person or when is the last moment that the child can be legally killed?
There is more justification for killing old sick people than for killing infants.
Anyone who dose not understand that all have a right to live is not qualified to hold office . The reason that JOBS ARE OPEN FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS IS THAT WE KILLED THE BABIES.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Hey CharlieRight,
Everything that you are spewing on the internet that I have read so far allows me to think that you have not read The Bible. If you had, you would change your mind. I blieve that God and God alone has the right to give life and to take it away!
NestaCal 3 years ago
garwoodjc... You are either naive, ignorant, or malicious. Lets see.....if the baby's toes are less than 3 milimeters, etc, etc, etc!!! This is Nazi WWII mutilation mindset. You offend God, all while taking such a passive/liberal new age approach to old fashioned MURDER!
lanainfla 3 years ago
Nazi WWII mutilation?! How can you say that?! Do you have any idea what horrors went on in those concentration camps? I don't think you do, or else you wouldn't have made that comparison. Don't compare a completely legal/sanitary procedure with something like the holocaust, that makes me sick! And don't accuse me of being malicious because of my personal opinion. I haven't been calling you any names, why don't you extend the same courtesy, and show a little maturity!
garwoodjc 3 years ago
garwoodjc In the abortion chambers human beings are scalded with chemicals(saline) cut to pieces (D&C) or stabbed in the head and their brains sucked out alive without anesthesia.(PBA)
The comparison is:The Nazis were more humane,(they gassed and burned) in exterminating undesirables than the abortionist. Both were legal and sanitary
The Abortionist and the Nazi both were ridding the world of unwanted humans.
The Nazis were just wannabees compared to the abortionist.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
CharlieRight, you couldn't be more wrong! 90% of abortions are done in the first trimester, where none of those procedures take place that you described. And it is completely innapropriate to compare them to Nazi brutalities. The Nazis besides "gassing and burning" did experiments to sterilize people, experiments on twins, they froze people with probes in their rectums, they infected them with diseases, etc. etc.! How ignorant are you? Do some research before you make a statement like that!
garwoodjc 3 years ago
Nazis also tortured people who were incompetent and couldn't do their work. They were whipped and scarred and beaten, probably several times a day and for many weeks, months, even years.
To say that abortionists are like Nazis is way too far and above and beyond. The "baby" is only getting cut up only once, that is it. I support abortions at any term for any reason because a fetus is given the chance to live, rather than actually living.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
garwoodjc "How ignorant are you?" Not near as ignorant. I am a 64 year retired teacher with 3 college degrees, you are a 20 year old smart ass punk.
Where did you do your research? Sounds more like N.O.W. propaganda
CharlieRight 3 years ago
You know folks.....all you so called pro choicers will pay to the Lord on Judgement Day. Abortion....the scourge of America. It needs to be illegal - should have never been legal - but thanks to the liberal scum!
lanainfla 3 years ago
The doctor took scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect face I have ever seen."
lanainfla 3 years ago
" I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet.
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lanainfla 3 years ago
mismindles ...ABORTION NEEDS TO BE ILLEGAL....NO DIFFERENT FROM MURDER. You are too soft while thousands of babies get slaughtered everyday!
lanainfla 3 years ago
garwoodjc ...IN YOUR CASE THE BRAIN NEVER CAME..........WHAT IGNORANCE1
lanainfla 3 years ago
lanainfla, I'm not attacking you personally, as i told other people in these comments. I'm just stating my opinion. Now i can agree with you that a late 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion is not right. The baby's development is almost done, it can feel pain, and can live outside the womb. At that point the parent(s) should choose to not have an abortion in most cases. It's not necessary to tell people that they will be judged by God because of their personal opinion. Stop being so negative.
garwoodjc 3 years ago
garwoodjc Abortion is just like any other sin, why don't you repent for the one that you were involved in and you want have to worry about being judged by God.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
lanainfla, fingers and toes don't develop until two months into development, and please don't call me a liberal fake ass, we're all just ordinary people with our own personal views
garwoodjc 3 years ago
AiMiLoOo ....you are doing God's work in telling your story. Don't let these air heads get you down with their ease of accepting abortion like it was normal and humane. I am proud of you.
I know your pain.
lanainfla 3 years ago
maryRidilo .....no logic to your little speech. Did you ever spend a day at an abortion clinic?? It's murder you fool. The damn mothers won't protect them so we must! Embryos......it's so easy for you to say this word......however, it's a baby in the early stages....hands, feet, head, etc. They will never see first grade idiot, nor will they dance, sing, breathe, love or eat! You liberal fake asses really need to seek Jesus in a hurry. Obama/Hillary are King and Queen of this cruel act.
lanainfla 3 years ago
lanainfla, fingers and toes don't come along until two months into development, and please don't call me a liberal fake ass, we're all just ordinary people with our own personal views.
garwoodjc 3 years ago
Conservatives always care more about the fetus than they do about the child. They rant about abortion but then they slash funding for child care, education, children's health care and other services that help children. They don't vote to help single moms - or "deadbeat welfare moms".
If the child in the woomb is so improtant, then don't abandon them them moment they're born.
maryRidilo 3 years ago
How about teaching children values and common sense before sex, consequences and responsibility? How many pregnant teens slept on your couch when thrown out, how many have you babysat for, convinced to go back to school, helped find a job/grants for college and tell them they're better than welfare, go to court with them to get support from those who shirked?; How many graduations of said children have you gone to? I've lived it. You do something besides ranting. The gov't is not daddy.
averitas 3 years ago
Mary , Thats is just a big lie, there are hundreds of right to life ministries that will take mothers to be. I helped to build the liberty God parents homes in lynchburg and a home called " Room at the Inn.
We all have a Right to live including the unborn child. That Child is Human and deserves the protection of the law just as old folks like me.
I think that it was Bill Clinton who signed the welfare bill that required recipients to go to work.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
i understand some of you are opposed to abortion, but i just don't think it's right for a few congressman to make such a personal decision for a woman
garwoodjc 3 years ago
garwood: But it's right 4 a woman 2 make such an important decision 4 a baby & often the father? Do U know how many people R on the waiting list 4 a baby & will never know the joy of a tiny hand wrapped around their index finger, a soft coo in their ear, or the simple words "Mommy" or "Daddy" & yet some1 else is willing 2 cut it up & throw it in the trash as if it has no right 2 B a person just b/c it's not a good time or they don't want 2 go through pregnancy right now. God help us.
mismindles 3 years ago
mismindles, there are many other reasons why a woman would get an abortion, not just because it's "not a good time". There are many different circumstances that they are experiencing. I don't know all of them, and neither do you. That's why the woman needs to make the choice, in my opinion. Please don't take this as an attack on you personally, but it's just an opinion.
garwoodjc 3 years ago
garwood:I don't consider it a personal attack. For once it's nice to come to a place on Youtube & have a peaceful talk a/b a serious topic w/o every1 name calling & getting belligerent. I know there R lots of reasons but the most common reason is inconvenience. If I had my wish-people would respect themselves & respect each other (men & boys respecting women, women respecting themselves, their bodies & their babies) & if we all did that- the abortion rate would nearly fall off the charts. :-)
mismindles 3 years ago
i can agree with that :)
garwoodjc 3 years ago
i agree with that :)
garwoodjc 3 years ago
Why dont the father have anything to say about weather his child lives or dies. The Killing of human being should not be left up to the mother or anyone else.
Women make the " difficult decision " 4000 times a day. Most of them are coerced into it by someone else.
Why cant we kill anyone who becomes a problem for us?
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Garwood, What is the personal decision? a pregnant women will have a baby. That decision has already been made. The only thing left to decide is will the Child be killed or will he/she be allowed to live.
Why should a woman be able to impose the responsibilities of parenthood on a man if she chooses not to kill the baby?
maybe thats why so many fathers don't feel responsible for a woman's choice.
Most of the time the Abortion is not a choice but a coercion by others.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
garwoodjc The only thing that is keeping you alive is that
"few congressmen" passed a law against murder .
What if someone close to you makes a personal decision to stab you in the back of the neck and vacuum your few brains out.
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Women in both of these countries are becoming a smaller and smaller minority; check the stats if you don't believe, the Internet is at your fingertips and there is no excuse of being ignorant to these facts. Simple reasoning concludes that minorities have less of a say in anything, less control, less representation; women are becoming more and more that minority and this is the result of sex-selective abortion. ABORTION. ironic how the world works, huh? just my two cents.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
B/C abortion undeniably involves a degree of physical and emotional pain, the decision cannot be viewed apart from the motivating factors. Personal problems, social pressure, lack of support from family, society, friends, suggest that the choice is never a voluntary one. It's more likely that women submit to abortions,not so much because they have a CHOICE, but B/c they feel they have no choice at all! Abortion doesn't promote social & economic justice, nor does it compensate for the lack of it.
ellengrace89 3 years ago
since this is a barack web site im sure you dont have the balls to leave my last message-because the truth hurts sometimes
geoby57 3 years ago
Freedom of speech is a little bit like freedom for a woman to choose....Oh look your comment is still there.. maybe a womans right to choose is also.
Doh!
truebot 3 years ago
I wasn't talking about the right to choose except for 3rd trimester abortions when babies are out and alive. p.s. i've had 3 comments removed from this site without being posted speaking of freedom of speech.
geoby57 3 years ago
third trimester abortions are wrong and in the ill. legisture obama supported them and even times when they were born alive and left to die.i call that murder because it is-no matter what your views on abortion are.
geoby57 3 years ago
A womans right to choose - I would die to protect that.
Why bring an unwanted child into the world. The suffering is dreadful. Look at some of the child abuse cases in the UK where children were born to unwed teenage mothers who didn't want the child but just had unprotected sex. The baby was then sexually abused by the boyfriend and beaten and burnt to death.
Answer that you pro-life pricks
truebot 3 years ago
So you would die to allow women to continually kill their fetuses? Women's right to chose is like saying women's right to kill because that is what they are doing. What has this country come to where we think its ok to take away the life of an innocent child? A LIFE IS A LIFE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
MrsTechn9ne 3 years ago 2
So you would die to allow women to continually kill their fetuses? Women's right to chose is like saying women's right to kill because that is what they are doing. What has this country come to where we think its ok to take away the life of an innocent child? A LIFE IS A LIFE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
MrsTechn9ne 3 years ago
"...mothers who didn't want the child but just had unprotected sex. ...'
WHAT?!?!?!? This is the most twisted logic I've ever heard! ABORTION should NOT ever be used as a flipping form of "birth control"!!
Good God!! "Accepting short-term solutions like abortion only delays the implementation of REAL reforms like decent maternity and paternity leaves, job protection, high quality child care" Daphne de Jong
Don't you GET it? Women in America have been CONNED! true feminism is pro-life!
ellengrace89 3 years ago
People who don't care about BIRTH CONTROL are not going to make very good parents....I don't want to see another unwanted child brought into the world..
You can't stop people having sex...But you can give them the choice not to bring a child who will be brought up badly, no doubt hurt others or be badly hurt themselves...Better they weren't born!
truebot 3 years ago
you're right on that. although Adoption is always an option though
MkMcHale 3 years ago
those 'unwanted children' have already been brought into the world; you can't see them because the mother's womb isn't transparent, and it's much more difficult to sympathize with something or someone whne you can't see them. it's the same thing with world poverty; it's not right in front of our faces and although we know about it it's easy to turn a blind eye.
go to this website and you'll see what really goes on in the womb: ehd[dot]org
these babies have already been brought into the world.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
as MkMcHale said, adoption's always an option. those 'unwanted' children are ALWAYS wanted; visit any adoption website and read the letters of the eager, yearning, hopeful adoptive parents. you should research the great degree of difficulty adoptive parents go though in order to adopt a child. unwanted? most definitely not.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
truebot: U R assuming the mother keeps the child when she doesn't want it. How a/b adoption? In that case the child gets everything-parents that want it, usually a wealthy family & if not a wealthy family, then a family who spent every dollar they had 2 get a baby-now THAT is being wanted & loved!
Also-sometimes people care a/b birth control but they get caught N the heat of the moment, weren't expecting 2 have sex & figure-what R the odds? unfortunately my best friend is facing this now.
mismindles 3 years ago
I agree that the best solution is for the unwanted baby to be adopted. However, this does not happen in what I see around me everyday. I see bad mothers raising children by themselves and bringing up the next generation of bad mothers and absentee fathers. Perhaps they should be forced to give up their children if abortion is not available. I would actually vote for that.
truebot 3 years ago
truebot: I can agree that there R plenty of bad mothers- unfortunately THEY R the ones that always WANT the baby. A/b not seeing women give up their babies for adoption- I have to say-I know a girl who would not make a good mother & knows it-& why she doesn't just use protection I have no idea, but she has given up 3 babies 4 adoption. She doesn't believe in abortion & she says she loves to see the look on a parent's face when she gives them a baby & she knows the child will be loved & wanted.
mismindles 3 years ago
i agree with you 100%. furthermore, what's up with the "50 million women missing in India" and even more missing in China because of sex-selective ABORTION? true feminism really should be pro-life.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
Whats sad is that before abortion those babies were born, held by their mothers and then taken away and put in the ground.
In China when a baby is to be born they dig a hole....If it is a boy they plant a tree. If it is a girl they bury her in it...Nice thought to leave you with.
truebot 3 years ago
trubot, there are much evil that exists in the world. abandoning one's child is wrong; killing one's child, whether in the womb or out of the womb, is wrong. the one-child policy has become more lenient and families are now able to have more than one child because of many factors, but mostly because if that one child dies and the parents aren't able to have more kids, then the gov't is burdened with caring for the parents and grandparents on welfare. that's 6 people the gov't is burdened with.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
i have had a personal experience with abortion, and let me tell you.. it's not all the glory and greatness and relief that it's made out to be. when you are actually faced with an abortion decision, come talk to me. it's the most difficult decision to make and it haunts the mother and father forever. come talk to me after you've experienced that anguish. i used to be pro-choice as well; i had no idea what i was talking about when i was pro-choice. i was like, "hell yes, all for women's rights!"
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago 3
WOW AiMiloOo- that was brave and honorable of you to be so vulnerable on here to total strangers. I applaud you 100% I am so happy that you took your bad experience and are using it for good. Wow-just wow!
mismindles 3 years ago
Bingo. There are two victims, not one. They can scream all they want re: outta sight, outta mind and no responsibility... but when you see someone pregnant, baby with their mom after an abortion, it's there. Think what type of non-human, so-called woman can say it's nothing to them... as they kill other potential women who didn't have a choice. What makes a female a woman, what does the callous multiple abortions do to her as a human being, how about men... how can that make them a man?
averitas 3 years ago
AiMiLoOo Good Girl!!!!!!!
CharlieRight 3 years ago
what's truly ironic is that abortion is biting women in the ass. it is very, very obvious that male children are MUCH more valued than female children. boys carry on the family name and are the ones to take care of their parents when they grow old. however when females are married off, they belong to the husband's family and don't care for her own parents in old age. this happens most in China and India, who together account for over a third of the world's population.
AiMiLoOo 3 years ago
If it's only a child after it comes out of the womb, and it's life comes from the mother then Obama is white. So why does he act like a black man if the life comes from the mother and she is white.
hydrolito 3 years ago 2
hydro: that was pretty witty.
mismindles 3 years ago
Barack Obama says he support abortion and is also a Christian. How can this be? If abortion is ok then wouldn't it have been okay for Mary to abort Jesus? If so where would Christianity be?
hydrolito 3 years ago
hydrol:I keep asking myself this very ? a/b Barack & I was starting 2 think I was the only 1 who thought a/b it. I watched all the hoopla a/b his pastor & the 1st thing I thought was "I bet this guy (Wright) believes in abortion" & I thought it was a complete waste of time 2 hear all a/b Barack's church & his controversial pastor & Barack say "This is the man that lead me to Christ" None of it mattered 2 me a bit-b/c I know that if he truly- I mean TRULY knew Christ, he couldn't B 4 abortion.
mismindles 3 years ago
Partial birth abortion is performed late in pregnancy in a gruesome inhumane manner. If anyone saw this procedure, they would not tolerate its use in any way. If a woman wants to terminate her pregnancy, why can't we enforce that she can do it early on while the baby is too young to feel the pain that abortion inflicts? It's still murder to me at any stage of gestation, but I agree there are circumstances when a woman's life and well-being are too fragile to continue the pregnancy.
trace433 3 years ago
"Blessed are the pure in heart; for the shall see God." Matthew 5:8 I wonder who the impure of heart will see...
The arguments are endless for this subject, so for those of you with the right stance, know that justice will prevail.
"Before I formed you in the womb, I knew [and] approved of you..." Jeremiah 1:5
If you think Pro-Life advocates are in the wrong, take it up with God.
Tashpeters 3 years ago
good.
mytube2048 3 years ago
can I choose to murder ? yes but it is ilegal and I go to jail,,, Abortion is Murder
yooper4lyf 3 years ago 2
Yes, abortion is murder but there might be exceptions, 30% of all pregnancies are miscarried... many of them as a result of genetic disorders which the mothers body recognizes and then aborts the pregnancy. Sometimes that mechanism fails and a fetus with no chance of survival could threaten the life of the mother if there is not an induced miscarriage/ abortion. Im just not sure if I can call that murder.
Ashwento 3 years ago
murder, murder, murder, murder. and the penity for murdre is death. are you part pf the obamanation obama nation abomination? he is the antichrist
nunogonewild 3 years ago
People want sexual freedom....Even if people die in result of it...
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
They want sexual freedom, even if it costs a baby hs/her own life...
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
I think people simply don't want to take responsibility for their own actions Solideo, but I guess that is about the same thing. The sexual freedom even if it kills a baby does raise two interesting questions: doesn't killing a child impinge upon their human rights and aren't we supposed to enjoy our rights as long as they don't impinge on the rights of others?
Assassi1n 3 years ago
No one is telling women they have to get pregnant or they can't have sex. This is supposed to be America, where human beings have opportunity to make better lives for themselves. To suggest that we should kill babies in the womb simply because they may be born into poverty seems anti-American. How about people CHOOSE not to get pregnant if they don't want a baby? Rape abortions are less than 10%, Broken condom, then sue. Don't give the right to murder to everyone to appease a few exceptions.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
From your words and pro-dictates they are. You are indeed saying if you are gonna have sex period, you must go through pregnancy. Accidents happen, but you should not force a couple who had a broken condom to sue and keep an unnecessary life. Suing can have more damaging effects than not allowing a human into the world. One person for the well-being of our society is not the right answer. Suing costs society money, businesses money, and government money.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Newsflash: You can have sex without getting pregnant!!!!!!
Not only that, but I'm sure a little innovation could lead to better condoms, and the manufacturers could improve testing.
Again, you can choose to use protection or take birth control, or you could choose to be careless and hope for the best. Heck, you could even wait until marriage and then have a child in a responsible relationship. There are options, and I don't think it could have been said any clearer than that.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
For now though, we must accept the fact that women have to abort an unborn child when condoms or other birth control fails. You might not like it, but it takes patience and acceptance.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Never accept injustice.... okay my friend...
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
Patience and acceptance. Wow, what a concept. See, I think that people should show enough patience to at least go get a condom or wait until the birth control kicks in, and it would be nice if people accepted responsibility for the lives they bring into this world. In the meantime, I will support movements to protect unborn children from being killed in the womb.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
What did I tell you about condoms? They are not 100% effective. Abortions must be kept available regardless of an outcome. And accepting responsibility includes raising the child even after postnatal period.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
For once I agree with you, accepting responsibility fully does mean raising the child. In order to get there, we have to get people to stop intentionally killing their children before birth. Still though, you act as if condoms are the only means of birth control; they aren't. Also, I don't think the odds of them failing are very high at all. Not to mention that after they fail, the woman has to be at a part of her cycle where she is likely to conceive.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
I sould add some stats. A study by D. Hollander on condom failure (available through JSTOR) using about 800 women and 8000 condom uses found failure rates of 3% and 6% for mail and female condoms on average. After some experience, those rates decreased to about 2%. for such, I recommend morning after pill. Also, heartbeat and head appear at 5-7 weeks. Brain response to light has been recorded while in the womb. The more we look, the more life signs we seem to find.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
heroikrobb , most people who are alive today are accidents. You should ask your parents ,I'll bet that you are one of them .
CharlieRight 3 years ago
Fetuses are life...
They are alive... just like dogs live they live..
The reason we know they are life is this:
they have to be killed to cease living.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
You sound stupid....
If you have to kill it, then its already alive....
If a fetus isnt life then why do you have to physically kill it?
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago 2
A fetus which is allowed to live and mature inside the womb will become a human child. While it is true that complications in birth are possible, the fetus has a very different potential for human life than any other cell or mass of cells in the body. Therefore, killing a fetus isn't simply scraping some growth, but murdering a child-to-be.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
people go to jail for killing dogs....
But 6 million fetuses are dead within 5 yrs in AMERICA,,, and its legal....
And Obama loves it.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago 2
Obama loves free will, not the killing of so-called live babies. Unborn children can be sacrificed for the sake of a woman's free right to be herself because unborn children are only property. They do not have any physical, mental, emotional, or sensual capability to survive. They need to be taken care of before birth when they are proven they can be fed to, interacted with, they show emotion, intellect, and perception and reaction to the environment. Please, do not treat women as bitches.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Adoption is still legal isnt it??
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
a baby that survives late term abortion and is born is a live baby. Obama refused to vote for a bill that would declare a baby lying on the table, separate from the mother and crying, alive if it had survived an abortion procedure. I would expect even pro-fetus killers to find this utterly disgusting.
Assassi1n 3 years ago
SolideoGloriafella...it's obvious to me that heroikrobb is trying to mess with us...the argument of this person is almost laughable if not for the fact that some people obviously believe this dribble. "They (babies) don't have the ...SENSUAL capability to survive..." wow...
randyjsing 3 years ago
You need 3 senses to survive. Without these, you cannot survive at all. You guys see us humans as slaves in a way, or an image. You say, the more there is the better. What is the point of you guys trying to declare an unborn child life? Face it, an unborn child is an unnecessary product of the mother and she does not have to have that for survival. In fact, you don't have to have a reproductive system to survive, which is why we choose to abort unborn children.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
People arent getting abortions because theyre raped (as the abortionists love to bring up.)
Research the numbers on abortion....
Youll see that people are getting abortions because of pre-marital sex and affairs.... not rape...
The rape argument claims a very low percentage of abortions.
Adultery, and pre-marital sex claims a massive percentage of abortions.
SolideoGloriafella 3 years ago
In the Barack Obama-Abortion video, Barack mentions how holding up one type of abortion to anger people is a bad idea. If you recognize partial birth abortion as torturous and disgusting, why won't you vote against at least the "bad" types of abortion? I've seen the percents for rape, they are always in the single digits. Women have the choice to take birth control, be virtuous, have men use condoms, ect., but a person does not have the right to end the life of another for convenience.
Assassi1n 3 years ago