No? Christ's birth was most likely in the spring. Shepherds do no tend to their flocks at night during the winter. Palestinian winter nights are bitterly cold. The holiday, which is an old English contraction of the words "holy" and "day", was placed on December 25 in order to cover up or mask a pagan holiday.
Now when you bash Christians you call them all sorts of names and insults. You're not attacking their argument just the person. Please provide a real rebuttal attack my argument, not me.
Zeitgeist was a scam made up by the United Nations that incorporated Jaques Fresco of the Venus Project and was designed as a form of mind control to be used by people like Chris White who profitted BIG TIME by his "Zeitgeit Challenge" offer. People either follow White, or Merola, but BOTH sides get paid, and that's the game.
Lol zeitgeist was debunked like, 3 years ago. I didn't think I'd find someone still clinging to it.
Honestly not mad here...Horus wasn't born of a virgin. His father was murdered, chopped into pieces and thrown into the Nile. His mother used a spell to resurrect him, but she couldn't find his penis do she made a golden one. Then she had sex with it, which caused her to conceive Horus.
This is touted as some kind of parallel of Jesus...lol
Christians should want to study the bible and Christ teachings that are an example for us to follow, faith in Him and obeying Gods commandments and loving one another as ourselves. Christ said that there were many false gods and prophets before Him and there will be many after Him. To each his own belief system, I follow Jesus and have hope and faith in Him and in God and His divine plan and His will working in my life; as He promises us who follow Him and are obedient to His will & wait for Him
why are not MORE Christian willing to really study religion? This was taught in my world religion class,and I personally don't feel threatened. I believe in Christ, but NOT the one taught about in churches!!
Your history lesson ( however accurate or not) serves as a testimony that God has given many, many testimonies of understanding HIm, and you somehow have made a mockery out of forgiveness? Look round you! The hate in Africa, the revolts in the Middle East, the riots in America and London... You tell me what have you did to make this world a better place and i will tell your legacy forever also... But for now- Jesus is Lord. The formula of greateness must be duplicated.
No dont flag this video... Its actually a very nice history lesson. Im a Christian. I read from a Catholic Bible. I believe that I am a desendent of Abraham. I am called an African American to distract the from awakening. I am a girl-- but according to THE LAW a woman shouldnt be listened to... But what law did you break? What makes you holier than thou?
The 10 COMMANDMENTS KEEP US. ALL. The Law Of Moses = an eye for an eye and tooth for tooth. Moses law was to show you how wrong you were...it convicts you of breaking the Law...all DIE BY MOSES's law/Adam's sin. Then came a greater Law.. The Law of Love. All that believes and is baptised for the REMISSION OF SIN. OR PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF...PUBLIC DEFENDER OR SELF- REPRESENTAION?
Well, if satan was going to confuse us. His plan did backfire in a way-- because he emulated the formula (because of his insight of heaven) but what satan seems to forget is. God the Father and The Holy Mother will bear a Holy Child- and that One Child's Accepted Sacrafice made All of Mankind the "Children of The Most High God"
Give me evidence besides the bible that what your saying is true. You don't have to right? Because the definition of faith is believing something with no evidence right? And because you believe in god and god has divine plan, that means you don't have to worry or think about anything again. lazy of you. What are you so scared of? Put your hands up and enjoy this beautiful ride! You don't need all this to be a good person! I hope your a better person than the bible wants you to be.
he connects a bunch of board themes and makes them look specific.
you know there were thousands of people called Jesus back in the day. and you know Cyrus the king of Persia had the name king of kings. wow so by that logic Jesus must have been a construct of thousands of pesansts called Jesus and one king. yeah you have the right to say what ever you want but dont go giving evidence that would not stand in a historical text book or a acdemic journal
lol attis was nothing like jesus. he cut his bloody genital off because he got angry... any way i feel the premis that "because they made a video it must be true" this is sill he mentions all these historical people but does not give a single source.
Actually there is one more you forgot and thats nimrod. When semiramis had tamuz she claim she was a virgin as well. But interesting thing you might want to look at. During that time there was one language until the tower of babel where the languages were confused then every person from now different languages took that story of the virgin birth back to their culture in their language. Satan knew after the garden what was going to take place thats why he had to fake it until Jesus came for real.
@Xenophile665 Wow, here we go again, instead of making a post about the truth and what it actually is, you direct your criticism directly at the person to attack them and not the message. You're are a hypocritical asshole.
You insult people and make them angry at atheists instead of liking atheists. You are a bad example for atheism.
@Xenophile665 Look it up, it's down there, your derogatory insults to others, You know what you are accusing me of, treating people like shit. Find it yourself asshole hypocrite.
@mechanicmike69 A two-year old comment where I tell the guy he's made mistakes about Krishna and astronomy? Where did I insult him? Where was I derogatory? You're bats, dude.
@Xenophile665 It doesn't matter what you think. I said I think you don't need to treat people that way. My ethics and morals are to be what is followed here, your perceptions of the problems do not matter. I'm telling you how to act correctly and be a better atheist, but you ignore the criticism.
I'm pointing out what a pompous arrogant asshole you are, and have always been. You are not better than others, fuck you and your hypocritical ways. Practice what you preach asshole.
@mechanicmike69 Telling the truth is insulting and derogatory? Well, that's your opinion, you're entitled to it. I am better than others, just not all others. The guy who made this video didn't check his sources and I called him on it.
@mechanicmike69 What, a sarcastic remark about telling him to learn to read? That's my insult? Wow. If you read the rest of the comment, you'll see why the sarcasm. Check the facts yourself, you'll see that I'm right.
"you lose, you hypocrite." Oh, NO! I've lost! What'll I do now? My life is over! Mikey doesn't approve of me! The shame! The embarassment! The agony!
@Xenophile665 So now maybe you understand, You walked in the middle of something already going on and you had the audacity to critique me, without knowing about the other theist twits I was cursing and ridiculing. Either make or point or mind your own business, you arrogant pompous and self-righteous asshole. .
@mechanicmike69 No, I don't understand, my previous comment to you on this site was incredulity followed by sarcasm. And I am audacious, and if you don't want to hear from me, then don't put your comments on a public site, where anyone can read them. You want private chats with others, there's an app for that in YouTube. I would tell you to use it, but that'll set you off on another rant about how I "order" you to do stuff.
@Xenophile665 You really are ignorant. You really are a hypocrite. You really are an arrogant pompous and self-righteous asshole. Fuck you for being a smart ass or too fucking ignorant to understand the point. Either way, you're just a pointless agitator.
@mechanicmike69 No, not ignorant, nor hypocritical. I am arrogant when I compare what I know to others like yourself. And I'm no more self-righteous than you.
"Agitator?" Ever hear the old saw about the pot and the kettle?
@mechanicmike69 I hope you don't mind me saying this - you have to let go of things sometimes! You're criticising someone for taking 2 days to reply, but you're picking on a comment made 2 years ago! Chill out! ;)
@jerrygreg2 Yes, I do mind you saying it, you're another presumptuous asshole, who knows nothing about what you are talking about. You have entered into the middle of a discussion that traveled over several videos.
So to put it lightly, go fuck yourself and mind your own business, you fucking dick head.
If your so gullible to believe any of this, Please!! Go research ANY one of these examples.
I did any 'Horus' 's mother was NOT a virgin, she made a penis of gold to put on her dead husband and then conceived horus... haha wow
And i may be wrong but the Roman calendar was not even invented 1200BC. That would come 800 years later. Kind of make worshiping MITHRA ON A SUNDAY KIND OF HARD!!!
Really this video should be removed because of just horrible historic .... well,, lies.
@michiman57 as for my lies the above is all you have ever heard me say witch is not lies. maybe you should research things before you accept them as true..
You don't know anything about what i believe, all i said what this video was trash..
If you really believe this kind of stuff you deserve to be lied to.
@Commonvoice815 guess what i just did some research on this to see if it is true. some of this info is a little off but mainly this is mainly accurate. your a dumb shit, sir. cant you see that this obviously relates to christianity?? all religions are based on the same crap. so fuck you!
@Commonvoice815 guess what i just did some research on this to see if it is true. some of this info is a little off but mainly this is mainly accurate. your a dumb shit, sir. cant you see that this obviously relates to christianity?? all religions are based on the same crap. so fuck you!
I'm not so much interested in getting into youtube arguments, but I do have one thing to add (hopefully not a repost)...the December 25th date, like many Christian feast days, stemmed from the Romans. Most of those feasts did not exist until Constantine adopted Christianity into the Empire.
Before you flame the supporters of Zeitgeist as being "sent by satin", You should review entire movement and omit the religious portion. The movement only states this part of it to clarify that religion is outdated and holds no true value in modern society.
What is this supposed to represent something real? Just sounds like a guy who's mama used to fuck his friends and the whole neighborhood. Didn't have a daddy either, and satan just took over, real early on. Take comfort for now, until hell becomes real.
this is just conterfiet christs . None of the stories of other gods are true. They are for the purpose of confusing the fools. It works too. Zietgiest is bogus froth. The catholic church is bogus froth so why does the poster bother with it. Jesus was not born on dec 25. Its so foolish. Why do I bother.
i am a huge advocate for the zietgiet movment stands for and i still dont believe the religious part of the first movie...and if u have half a brain u should see what the zietgiest movement is really about.
@supercleatis Didn't Jesus have 13 " disciples " and one of them had fallen away or had left, he was lesser known hence people thought Jesus had 12 disciples?
Very Very Glad to see someone arguing that this video is wrong.
I don't know about this video, but with all the evidence we have about evolution and knowledge about morals and human behavior, you have got to be ignorant to subscribe to any religion that involves worship. It is obvious-especially to younger people-that ALL forms of Christianity is false...
Me personally, I am a firm Christian. And anyone who is really a christian would not hate or judge anyone by their beliefs. But like I said, in my world jesus is the one I go to. Maybe my belief is mixed with a little science? IDK only god knows how he actually created all this. But I know he is behind it. And no video can change that. BTW anyone who is offended by this should just simply leave it alone. I hope that nobody believes this though. There is a god and we'll all see that some day
there is no problem believing in a god. but to state with certainty that he does in fact exist, is utter foolishness..u can't know. god isn't meant to know..god is faith. the only thing we know exists is nature..believing that a god exists transcendent of nature, is on pure faith..
@itzahazylife "god isn't meant to know" not much of a god then ! "god is faith" faith is belief which resides in our brains, so I agree, it is a human mental delusion. The next question is, is faith a good thing ? I answer no, because it misrepresents reality. There may be some positive side effects, such as consolation, but if your goal is to believe as few untrue things as possible, then faith is a very bad thing, since it predisposes you to belief without evidence.
I am the same as you, nothing and none can change my belief in God, Jesus Christ and the Bible. I will keep my faith to the point of death, I will keep my trust in God till the point of blood and far beyond it. Beat me like the Romans did to Jesus, I WILL NOT STRAY, I will stand firm in my faith.
So 7000BC-3000BC superstitious pagan worship is the reason that Christians get angry? I'm pretty sure that is a horrible argument I may be wrong but I don't see how it works? i'm not trying to offend anyone I know an individual who to this day follows norse religious practices as his religion and believes it to be true. but I don't hate him or get angry at him I listen
Jesus is god. i know people are going to pm me cursing me . every curse u guys write god will change them to change them to blessings. god bless u all.
@killerzee11 Let logic be your source. If you really want tangible evidence of these claims, I am sure you can find them in a library, using Google.com as your method to find the right book.
Christianity, like all other religions from all cultures throughout the earth and throughout time, is just another myth. Every couple of thousand years or so a new religion is invented, becomes a majority, lasts for a while, then gives way to a new religion that later becomes the majority and the cycle starts all over again. This has happened since the first humans created the first religion thousands of years ago. Christianity will not be the last to be replaced by another one. Another mythos.
Lets get one thing clear....it's obvious the creator of this video is not only trying to deceive , but shows this with his obvious lack of knowledge of Christianity...After all the so called sun gods were introduced , they came to Jesus at which the narator says " He was visited by now get this THREE kings......Who ever said there were three of them......NO ONE EVER SAID THREE KINGS....you know this is a fraud video.............Better yet from satin himself...Get it right next time !!
You all should read Zacheriah Sitchen books they are based on the oldest culture in the world "Sumeria". The bases for all religious beginnings.If you have a problem with the text he also has carbon dated tablets that date back over 10,000 BC if still you don't believe it then you are part of the dumbed down america i feel sorry for you.
I'm sorry. I'm not a Christian and I think Christianity needs to be debunked because it is holding humanity back. But a lot of the information in this video is misleading and simply not true.
most of these marry up but Thor never died for three days or any of the bollocks that marries up with the story. He dies once, at the end of time and never comes back. Odin dies once at the end of time and neve comes back. If you want to see any similarity, he is hung from a tree for 9 days as a sacrifice to himself but then falls. He does not die. There's a fundamental flaw in this video in that is wildly inaccurate about most forms of mythology other thant the over examined late mediterranean.
I don't think this video should be flagged, but it's incorrect. There are some assumptions & at least 1 contradiction (easily seen)
=> First error is the language. The sign 'm.' of Virgo is in no relation with the 'm' from Maria or Maya or Myrra. That's more coincidence. Are all the mothers of all the people in that list named with an M?
=> contradiction: Mother of Adonis is called Io from Greece, but later on in the vid it's Myrra...
Don't forget that in Jesus' case all was predicted.
it amazes me how many people watch this bullshit and believe it without even researching the "facts" for themselves. pretty much everything except the names in this video is made up.
The bulletproof glass is in the pope mobile, because the last one was shot.Not killed, but shot. And, no, I'm not Catholic. I'm Lutheran, and this video doesn't make me angry. I've researched mythology extensively. But, I do still belive in God and Jesus, because, Jesus was the SON of God. Not the SUN God. He was born during the Summer, but since December 25th was a holiday for the Romans, the people who adopted Christianity, they chose that date.
Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. Luke 1:8 And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course, Luke 1:23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house. Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, ...
(doctorh) you are right on the dot. Most christians just picked the day dec 25th because of the sun God that is of pagan decent. It is never said that "Jesus the only living God" was born on that day. Also you have to look at that the bible is the oldest book known to man kind. Many other religions have gone and recreated what happened to Jesus to fit there own belief system..... like Mormonism....
according to the egyptologysts Horus the "SUN GOD" was not a virgin. Horus was born to the goddess "Isis" after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband "Osiris", except his penis which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by a catfish"In later myths about Isis, she had a brother, Osiris, who became her husband, and she then was said to have conceived Horus." i dont even need to go further for its nonsense.
the Hebrews (JEWS) Jesus was the God of the Old Testament. He didnt call himself the SUN GOD, he said the SON of God. Son Sun may sound the same but are two different things in nature. its ignorant to intertwine the two words as meaning the same. its like say write and right, are the same in definition. this is STUPID! easily refuted. BUT its impossible to know the birthday of the gods of mythology of these cultures. for example egyptology is the study of everything about egypt.
Then the Jews and as well as Christians are waiting a Messiah that personified the Attributes of the Sun. check this out I am a Christian, and this Video does not get me angry as it wants me to be lol, in Malachi 4:2, says the Shemesh which is the Hebrew word for SUN. Called the Sun of righteousness, He who was to come with healng in his wings. parabolic, metaphoric, allegoric,etc These other dieties of egypt, greece etc are never historically attributed by their own culture to be the God of
This video does not keep getting removed because of its "truth", it keeps getting removed because it is the first part of a copyrighted movie called "Zeitgeist".
And let me tell you, I am an atheist and this entire first part of the video is complete utter historical crap. There is alot of good material out there for atheists, this movie is easily refutable and is simply around to promote the video creator's New Age beliefs.
@Poveglia your an athiest,mmmm. i smell a christian. from what ive gathered dr murdoch is an archeologist that has delved into the archives at history museums, and reads at first hand the hieroglyphics based in egypt. so id like to see your explaination.
My friend Jordan Maxwell and others made this possible. They keep removing it due to your lack of Copyright. Simply go to Harry fox agency dot com and buy a 35 dollar license. This video is of no importance otherwise. Obviously your mentally delusional thinking it is removed due to anti-christian topics. The same video is everywhere and is never removed.
Atheist scholar here. Horus wasn't born of a virgin, wasn't born on December 25th and none of the other purported parallels are actually true either. Go look them up instead of believing everything you see or hear.
@Username93611 I am an atheist scholar also, and yes, Horus was born of a virgin on December 25th and yes, all of the other parallels are tru also. I have looked them up, would you like to see them?
Absolutely. Post links. I already know you're quite wrong... Horus was born "...on the last day of the Egyptian Khoaik which is November 15th." But I'm interested in seeing whatever disreputable source you come up with.
One of the things that made Christians freak is when i mentioned that obviously at least one sinner died after Jesus's resurrection one day after in China. Now since that sinner could have never of heard of Jesus or what Jesus said does the sinner have to burn in hell forever because of his sin and because he could not ask Jesus to forgive him/her. When i brought this point up to fundamental Christians they freaked out. The majority of them said "Yes, He/She is in Hell!"
NO religion likes to be questioned, none more so than the abrahamic religions, just look at the penalties they used to impose (and would still love to impose if they could) on those that did. Lets face it all religions are rather sordid and corrupt at their very heart, lies based upon lies. People need to THINK for themselves instead of being lazy and following these brands of stupidity. Really nice video.
@TheVKFox 100% correct. The time of Christ's birth is not in the bible. The so-called "Christians" of today are really worshiping ancient false gods. TRUE Christianity has been hidden from the world. They changed the 7 annual holy festivals of God into Pagan Holidays and the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday..There is no scriptural writ in either the Old or New testaments to justify this. These people who claim be "Christians" are really observing a cloaked form of paganism labeled Christianity.
THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES (TANACH) ARE FILLED WITH PROPHECIES ABOUT THE COMING MESSIAH. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
JUST FEW FROM THESE; - PLEASE, READ THEM ALL IN HEBREW.
MICAH 5,2 ISA 9,6-7 ISA 40,3 MAL 3,1 ZECH 9,9 PSALM 41,9
PSALM 55,12-14 ZECH 11,12-13 ZECH 12,10 ISA 7,14 ISA 49,7 ISA 53,7 PSALM 22,16-18 PSALM 69,21 EX 12,46 PSALM 34,20 ISA 53,9-10 PSALM 16,10 PSALM 22,16 ZECH 12,10 ISA 53,5 +12 ISA 9,6 ISA 35,5-6 ISA 50,6 ISA 52,14-15 ISA 53,4 ISA 53,14 ISA 66,24
@anitaeducation what is your point? the new testament was written long after the "old" testament, many scriptures in the NT were written to fit those in the OT, you still think it's all real thats why you reference from it, none of it is real NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SHOUT !
@frivera0525 - Eh, your comment is "NOT FACT. Sorry Frivera0526" There. Now it's my word against yours. You will have to actually prove where it's not fact in order to gain the upper hand in my argument. And even learn that words are just that until proven otherwise. Hence the defense against Christianity.
@YourDarkAccomplice this video is from the movie "Zeigeist" look it up here on youtube....plus most of what's on this video are not factual... like jesus being born on Dec 25th when in fact it was something that the Catholic Church did so that it could go against the pagan holiday celebrated on the 25th of Dec.
@frivera0525 - Much agreed. However, the video is not inaccurate to claim that Jesus was born on Dec.25th. This is something that MOST Christians believe (whether they know Jesus was born another date or not, they associate Christmas with his birth.) Separating Christianity via the evolution of Christianity makes no sense.
But either way, I wonder why this video is associated with Zeitgeist? Isn't that movie about moving to another planet or something? What's it go to do with mythology? lol
@YourDarkAccomplice well in all honesty if you believe in the bible it never mentions Dec 25th, in fact it doesn't say any date at all just that the sheppards where carring for their sheeps in the field when he was born.
The clip that we are discussing is part of the movies titled "Zeigeist - The Movie" it's here on youtube
@frivera0525 - I've read/studied and even studied the original Hebrew bible. I'm aware that the whole Dec 25 date was taken from the Winter Solstice of the pagans. But that's not what I mean at all.
As for the movie, I was just wondering why the historical mentioning of pre-christian deities would be relevant to a movie regarding some ideal future, etc.
@frivera0525 - I understand what you mean about the movie, I'm just asking (cause I've never seen the movie and am not really interested in wasting hours watching it -- no disrespect intended) how is it related to the history of pagan gods/Christianity?
As for my elaborating about the Roman Emperor turning the pagan's Winter Solstice into "Christmas" a "Christian holiday" -- I don't understand where to explain, lol to me that pretty much says it all. hehe
In Greek mythology, Dionysus is made out to be a son of Zeus and the mortal Semele. He is described as being womanly or "man-womanish. Dionysus was born on Mount Pramnos in the island of Ikaria, where Zeus went to release the now-fully-grown baby from his thigh. In this version, Dionysus is borne by two "mothers" (Semele and Zeus) before his birth, hence the epithet dimētōr (of two mothers) associated with his being "twice-born".
Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[36] as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE.
was ripe, Nana who was a daughter of the river-god Sangarius picked an almond and laid it in her bosom. The almond disappeared, and she became pregnant. Nana abandoned the baby (Attis). The infant was tended by a he-goat.
In the late fourth century a cult of Attis became a feature of the Greek world. The story of his origins at Agdistis, recorded by the traveler Pausanias, have some distinctly non-Greek elements: Pausanias was told that the daemon Agdistis initially bore both male and female attributes. But the Olympian gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ and cast it away. There grew up from it an almond-tree, and when its fruit
Horus was never crucified, Horus was born to the goddess Isis after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband Osiris and horus was never visited by 3 kings
There are numerous amulets and hieroglyphs depicting Horus crucified. I was going to post you a link showing you pictures, but damn Youtube won't let me post links. I can PM a picture of Horus crucified if you like?
I find your video interesting to the facts but you are still wrong. I think that Christ was born, lived , performed the signs ,died , and was buried, and rose from the dead and is seated with the Father in Heavenly places. It because God wanted to depose the false gods of the east to prove that the Lord Jesus Christ is the real God and others gods are false. Also He is only one who redeem men from their sins and show humanity the reason for they exist.
@jazzi34 Can you give proof of this outside of the bible? The bible is just a book and if you want to put all your faith into a book without good reasons to convince others then you can't expect people to not consider you crazy. You said you "think"...a fact is something you know.
Lol um... someone keeps telling me that after 1:30 this video contains content from Zeigeist.
Is this true? I don't know too much about the movie, itself so I have to ask...
I personally see nothing of the sort, so I'm just going to assume he's just a Christian trying to dismiss the content of this video by claiming it's preposterous "zeigeist" nonsense.
@YourDarkAccomplice lol. Dude, go to the zeitgeist website and view it for yourself. This video is almost entirely stolen from that ridiculously factually incorrect movie. Nice way of sticking your head in the sand and saying that anyone who disagrees with you is "probably a Christian"... nice atheist "openmindedness" and "Rationality"... lol!
@stallion4life - "Dude," that comment is over a month old. I know about the movie Zeitgeist. And no, it's not incorrect about it's points regarding religion.
You were sounding smooth until you called me an atheist. Hah! Looks like you're really dying to feel superior to them, aren'tcha? Unfortunately, you're going to have a tough time. So you have to resort to assuming in comments.
Now go hang up a Pagan evergreen tree and call it "Christian" (Jeremiah 10:1-5) ... "Lol."
@YourDarkAccomplice Zeitgeist is wrong about pretty much everything. You can read debunking sites on the internet... site that actually give references and citations, unlike Zeitgeist. And YOU'RE the one who claimed someone was probably a Christian just because you didn't like what they said.
@stallion4life - Ad hominem. You think because a theory is "wrong" or "ignorant" that's an excuse to dismiss absolutely everything it says. I never claimed Zeitgeist was authentic. What are you talking about?
Now, in order to plant a GOOD lie, you need to base it off of some truths (you can see this tactic in the holy bible). And no, the person I was discussion WAS a christian. It's the only reason he defended his grounds so smugly as you have.
As a Christ follower, I have to say you've done well to research the history of the pagan festival Christmas. Well done. Where does it say Jesus was born on Dec 25th? There is nothing new under the sun, including the "revelations" in this video. Simple fact is that God is love.
@bryanchud2000 if you're a fallower of christ then you must believe he was born on the 25th of December, unless you're a Jehovas witness, Christianity is mixed up with paganism and throughout the old testament they practiced pagan rituals I.E the sacrifice of first born animals to God, burnt offerings, and certain codes, christianity stole from paganism, because paganism pre date christianity by thousands of years
@zipitup75 actually Jesus was never born on Dec 25th...the bible never mention's when he was born. The catholic church made up Dec 25th as his birth to compete with the pagen god of thw winter solstise.
@frivera0525 i know that my friend, i was just answering someone else's comment, they say they were a christian "christ fallower" to be exact, but yet they were arguing with jesus being born on the 25th, when i go to church thats what they teach even though i dont believe it makes sense
WOW thats something you never see on youtube -_- so original You will barely ever see a christian response that's decent simply because you have many athiests flagging down responses = /
Ofcourse this video gets banned,cause only christians can bash on other peoples beliefs as much as they want,but if it comes to their own they get all sorts of pissy.
+ they'd rather believe in some dude in the clouds than hear the truth
@bryanpb983 Good for you and others like you. Stand up for your rights. Don't give in! I'm much older than you and we didn't have YouTube when I was your age so I thought I was alone and was forced to go along with religion. You have a chance!
I am a Christian. All I want to say is if you actualy go back and study history itself instead of going to sites that support this video you will find that the people who worshiped their god or gods at that time did not think the way this video is talking about.
No? Christ's birth was most likely in the spring. Shepherds do no tend to their flocks at night during the winter. Palestinian winter nights are bitterly cold. The holiday, which is an old English contraction of the words "holy" and "day", was placed on December 25 in order to cover up or mask a pagan holiday.
Now when you bash Christians you call them all sorts of names and insults. You're not attacking their argument just the person. Please provide a real rebuttal attack my argument, not me.
dang1222 1 week ago
Zeitgeist was a scam made up by the United Nations that incorporated Jaques Fresco of the Venus Project and was designed as a form of mind control to be used by people like Chris White who profitted BIG TIME by his "Zeitgeit Challenge" offer. People either follow White, or Merola, but BOTH sides get paid, and that's the game.
QueenyCameron2 4 weeks ago
Lol zeitgeist was debunked like, 3 years ago. I didn't think I'd find someone still clinging to it.
Honestly not mad here...Horus wasn't born of a virgin. His father was murdered, chopped into pieces and thrown into the Nile. His mother used a spell to resurrect him, but she couldn't find his penis do she made a golden one. Then she had sex with it, which caused her to conceive Horus.
This is touted as some kind of parallel of Jesus...lol
tripletrules 1 month ago
You Christians need to open up your minds and listen to this without getting butthurt
MissJeanette69 1 month ago
Hell no this should not be flagged, there is a lot of truth in this video. Thumbs up & favorited!
MissJeanette69 1 month ago
Im an athiest... Wrong video?
ZKupekZ 2 months ago
Christians should want to study the bible and Christ teachings that are an example for us to follow, faith in Him and obeying Gods commandments and loving one another as ourselves. Christ said that there were many false gods and prophets before Him and there will be many after Him. To each his own belief system, I follow Jesus and have hope and faith in Him and in God and His divine plan and His will working in my life; as He promises us who follow Him and are obedient to His will & wait for Him
TheJmpeters 3 months ago
why are not MORE Christian willing to really study religion? This was taught in my world religion class,and I personally don't feel threatened. I believe in Christ, but NOT the one taught about in churches!!
debrahubbard01 3 months ago
Slow clap.
More clapping.
Thunderous applause.
EquestriaDJ 3 months ago
Christians: Self-righteous, gullible sycophants.
Michael55443 3 months ago
Your history lesson ( however accurate or not) serves as a testimony that God has given many, many testimonies of understanding HIm, and you somehow have made a mockery out of forgiveness? Look round you! The hate in Africa, the revolts in the Middle East, the riots in America and London... You tell me what have you did to make this world a better place and i will tell your legacy forever also... But for now- Jesus is Lord. The formula of greateness must be duplicated.
MrDonnawise 3 months ago
No dont flag this video... Its actually a very nice history lesson. Im a Christian. I read from a Catholic Bible. I believe that I am a desendent of Abraham. I am called an African American to distract the from awakening. I am a girl-- but according to THE LAW a woman shouldnt be listened to... But what law did you break? What makes you holier than thou?
MrDonnawise 3 months ago
The 10 COMMANDMENTS KEEP US. ALL. The Law Of Moses = an eye for an eye and tooth for tooth. Moses law was to show you how wrong you were...it convicts you of breaking the Law...all DIE BY MOSES's law/Adam's sin. Then came a greater Law.. The Law of Love. All that believes and is baptised for the REMISSION OF SIN. OR PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF...PUBLIC DEFENDER OR SELF- REPRESENTAION?
MrDonnawise 3 months ago
Well, if satan was going to confuse us. His plan did backfire in a way-- because he emulated the formula (because of his insight of heaven) but what satan seems to forget is. God the Father and The Holy Mother will bear a Holy Child- and that One Child's Accepted Sacrafice made All of Mankind the "Children of The Most High God"
MrDonnawise 3 months ago
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comauniverse 3 months ago
Give me evidence besides the bible that what your saying is true. You don't have to right? Because the definition of faith is believing something with no evidence right? And because you believe in god and god has divine plan, that means you don't have to worry or think about anything again. lazy of you. What are you so scared of? Put your hands up and enjoy this beautiful ride! You don't need all this to be a good person! I hope your a better person than the bible wants you to be.
comauniverse 3 months ago
he connects a bunch of board themes and makes them look specific.
you know there were thousands of people called Jesus back in the day. and you know Cyrus the king of Persia had the name king of kings. wow so by that logic Jesus must have been a construct of thousands of pesansts called Jesus and one king. yeah you have the right to say what ever you want but dont go giving evidence that would not stand in a historical text book or a acdemic journal
nathan00000011 3 months ago
lol attis was nothing like jesus. he cut his bloody genital off because he got angry... any way i feel the premis that "because they made a video it must be true" this is sill he mentions all these historical people but does not give a single source.
nathan00000011 3 months ago
So as a Christian this doesn't make me angry :-)
scoobastevelol 4 months ago
Actually there is one more you forgot and thats nimrod. When semiramis had tamuz she claim she was a virgin as well. But interesting thing you might want to look at. During that time there was one language until the tower of babel where the languages were confused then every person from now different languages took that story of the virgin birth back to their culture in their language. Satan knew after the garden what was going to take place thats why he had to fake it until Jesus came for real.
scoobastevelol 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 Wow, here we go again, instead of making a post about the truth and what it actually is, you direct your criticism directly at the person to attack them and not the message. You're are a hypocritical asshole.
You insult people and make them angry at atheists instead of liking atheists. You are a bad example for atheism.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 What are you referring to? I don't even have a comment on this site! You seriously need to see a doctor, Wahnsinnige.
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 Look it up, it's down there, your derogatory insults to others, You know what you are accusing me of, treating people like shit. Find it yourself asshole hypocrite.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 A two-year old comment where I tell the guy he's made mistakes about Krishna and astronomy? Where did I insult him? Where was I derogatory? You're bats, dude.
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 It doesn't matter what you think. I said I think you don't need to treat people that way. My ethics and morals are to be what is followed here, your perceptions of the problems do not matter. I'm telling you how to act correctly and be a better atheist, but you ignore the criticism.
I'm pointing out what a pompous arrogant asshole you are, and have always been. You are not better than others, fuck you and your hypocritical ways. Practice what you preach asshole.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 Telling the truth is insulting and derogatory? Well, that's your opinion, you're entitled to it. I am better than others, just not all others. The guy who made this video didn't check his sources and I called him on it.
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 No. you criticized him and not the bad facts, you lose, you hypocrite.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 What, a sarcastic remark about telling him to learn to read? That's my insult? Wow. If you read the rest of the comment, you'll see why the sarcasm. Check the facts yourself, you'll see that I'm right.
"you lose, you hypocrite." Oh, NO! I've lost! What'll I do now? My life is over! Mikey doesn't approve of me! The shame! The embarassment! The agony!
Have an angry weekend, Mikey.
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 So now maybe you understand, You walked in the middle of something already going on and you had the audacity to critique me, without knowing about the other theist twits I was cursing and ridiculing. Either make or point or mind your own business, you arrogant pompous and self-righteous asshole. .
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fuck you
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 No, I don't understand, my previous comment to you on this site was incredulity followed by sarcasm. And I am audacious, and if you don't want to hear from me, then don't put your comments on a public site, where anyone can read them. You want private chats with others, there's an app for that in YouTube. I would tell you to use it, but that'll set you off on another rant about how I "order" you to do stuff.
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 You really are ignorant. You really are a hypocrite. You really are an arrogant pompous and self-righteous asshole. Fuck you for being a smart ass or too fucking ignorant to understand the point. Either way, you're just a pointless agitator.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 No, not ignorant, nor hypocritical. I am arrogant when I compare what I know to others like yourself. And I'm no more self-righteous than you.
"Agitator?" Ever hear the old saw about the pot and the kettle?
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@Xenophile665 2 days to come up with that pathetic reply? As if you have addressed anything.
Hypocrite.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 No, 2 days of actually living my weekend life, with no computers.
"His honor is pure, and his courage as well.
And he's fair, and he's true, and he's boring as hell,
And he'll go to his grave as an angry old man." Billy Joel
Xenophile665 4 months ago
@mechanicmike69 I hope you don't mind me saying this - you have to let go of things sometimes! You're criticising someone for taking 2 days to reply, but you're picking on a comment made 2 years ago! Chill out! ;)
jerrygreg2 4 months ago
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@jerrygreg2 Yes, I do mind you saying it, you're another presumptuous asshole, who knows nothing about what you are talking about. You have entered into the middle of a discussion that traveled over several videos.
So to put it lightly, go fuck yourself and mind your own business, you fucking dick head.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
Bible says there are many gods and many lords so I don't see your point.
chrismstrshk 4 months ago
This is not the truth. The truth will set you free.
soulwarrior77 6 months ago
@soulwarrior77 u mad
michiman57 5 months ago
If your so gullible to believe any of this, Please!! Go research ANY one of these examples.
I did any 'Horus' 's mother was NOT a virgin, she made a penis of gold to put on her dead husband and then conceived horus... haha wow
And i may be wrong but the Roman calendar was not even invented 1200BC. That would come 800 years later. Kind of make worshiping MITHRA ON A SUNDAY KIND OF HARD!!!
Really this video should be removed because of just horrible historic .... well,, lies.
Commonvoice815 6 months ago
@Commonvoice815 you should be removed from youtube for your lies. your religion is false yet you dont realize it at all
michiman57 5 months ago
@michiman57 as for my lies the above is all you have ever heard me say witch is not lies. maybe you should research things before you accept them as true..
You don't know anything about what i believe, all i said what this video was trash..
If you really believe this kind of stuff you deserve to be lied to.
Commonvoice815 5 months ago
@Commonvoice815 guess what i just did some research on this to see if it is true. some of this info is a little off but mainly this is mainly accurate. your a dumb shit, sir. cant you see that this obviously relates to christianity?? all religions are based on the same crap. so fuck you!
michiman57 5 months ago
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@Commonvoice815 guess what i just did some research on this to see if it is true. some of this info is a little off but mainly this is mainly accurate. your a dumb shit, sir. cant you see that this obviously relates to christianity?? all religions are based on the same crap. so fuck you!
michiman57 5 months ago
@Commonvoice815 I did research it and I have the facts to back it up, if you want them, I can send you them.
changingmyself 5 months ago
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@Commonvoice815 I did research it and I have the facts to back it up, if you want them, I can send you them.
changingmyself 5 months ago
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@Commonvoice815 I did research it and I have the facts to back it up, if you want them, I can send you them.
changingmyself 5 months ago
I'm not so much interested in getting into youtube arguments, but I do have one thing to add (hopefully not a repost)...the December 25th date, like many Christian feast days, stemmed from the Romans. Most of those feasts did not exist until Constantine adopted Christianity into the Empire.
kayhaus1 6 months ago
Zeitgeist is stupid. So is christianity.
TheBiddleMan 7 months ago
Before you flame the supporters of Zeitgeist as being "sent by satin", You should review entire movement and omit the religious portion. The movement only states this part of it to clarify that religion is outdated and holds no true value in modern society.
magiwarwolf1 7 months ago
@Sexxgod2000 Say as u wish, i refuse to waist my time on an ignorant moron like you.
xpanzicax 7 months ago
What is this supposed to represent something real? Just sounds like a guy who's mama used to fuck his friends and the whole neighborhood. Didn't have a daddy either, and satan just took over, real early on. Take comfort for now, until hell becomes real.
anewgift4u 8 months ago
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@anewgift4u there is no hell, you are the ignorant moron
deejay114 7 months ago
this is just conterfiet christs . None of the stories of other gods are true. They are for the purpose of confusing the fools. It works too. Zietgiest is bogus froth. The catholic church is bogus froth so why does the poster bother with it. Jesus was not born on dec 25. Its so foolish. Why do I bother.
cleanmrbroadway 8 months ago
Pagan crap, but not worth flagging.
usenetposts 8 months ago
This video is DORK-SIDED!!! AHHHHH!!!
:P.
IsolationInstigation 9 months ago
i am a huge advocate for the zietgiet movment stands for and i still dont believe the religious part of the first movie...and if u have half a brain u should see what the zietgiest movement is really about.
wallraven55 10 months ago
Be careful what you believe:
Horus:
Had FOUR disciples, SIXTEEN followers and an unknown number of mesniu
He never died - thus, was never resurrected
Most other facts stated here have no pre-New Testament sources to back them up
Jesus:
Was not born on December 25th - so others born on this date pose no issue
Had "some wise-men" visit him, not "3 kings", never does the bible state "3 kings"
This is just a start - make sure you know your sources
supercleatis 10 months ago
@supercleatis Didn't Jesus have 13 " disciples " and one of them had fallen away or had left, he was lesser known hence people thought Jesus had 12 disciples?
Very Very Glad to see someone arguing that this video is wrong.
xpanzicax 9 months ago
I don't know about this video, but with all the evidence we have about evolution and knowledge about morals and human behavior, you have got to be ignorant to subscribe to any religion that involves worship. It is obvious-especially to younger people-that ALL forms of Christianity is false...
railroadtrash09 10 months ago
preach the truth,brother, love horus
starfyre05 10 months ago
Me personally, I am a firm Christian. And anyone who is really a christian would not hate or judge anyone by their beliefs. But like I said, in my world jesus is the one I go to. Maybe my belief is mixed with a little science? IDK only god knows how he actually created all this. But I know he is behind it. And no video can change that. BTW anyone who is offended by this should just simply leave it alone. I hope that nobody believes this though. There is a god and we'll all see that some day
jbmorris08 11 months ago 2
@jbmorris08 , AMEN! keep strong in your faith!
LedZeppified 10 months ago
@jbmorris08
there is no problem believing in a god. but to state with certainty that he does in fact exist, is utter foolishness..u can't know. god isn't meant to know..god is faith. the only thing we know exists is nature..believing that a god exists transcendent of nature, is on pure faith..
itzahazylife 10 months ago
@itzahazylife "god isn't meant to know" not much of a god then ! "god is faith" faith is belief which resides in our brains, so I agree, it is a human mental delusion. The next question is, is faith a good thing ? I answer no, because it misrepresents reality. There may be some positive side effects, such as consolation, but if your goal is to believe as few untrue things as possible, then faith is a very bad thing, since it predisposes you to belief without evidence.
GowanBray 10 months ago 7
@jbmorris08 Can I get a HIGH-FIVE!?!?
I am the same as you, nothing and none can change my belief in God, Jesus Christ and the Bible. I will keep my faith to the point of death, I will keep my trust in God till the point of blood and far beyond it. Beat me like the Romans did to Jesus, I WILL NOT STRAY, I will stand firm in my faith.
I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I'M PROUD OF IT
xpanzicax 9 months ago
So 7000BC-3000BC superstitious pagan worship is the reason that Christians get angry? I'm pretty sure that is a horrible argument I may be wrong but I don't see how it works? i'm not trying to offend anyone I know an individual who to this day follows norse religious practices as his religion and believes it to be true. but I don't hate him or get angry at him I listen
kilinto26 11 months ago
Jesus is god. i know people are going to pm me cursing me . every curse u guys write god will change them to change them to blessings. god bless u all.
Rhiavax 11 months ago
@Rhiavax So why come here and make a useless comment then? Troll needs attention?
PaganBorn79 11 months ago
We want sources! We want sources!
killerzee11 11 months ago
@killerzee11 Let logic be your source. If you really want tangible evidence of these claims, I am sure you can find them in a library, using Google.com as your method to find the right book.
magiwarwolf1 7 months ago
Christianity, like all other religions from all cultures throughout the earth and throughout time, is just another myth. Every couple of thousand years or so a new religion is invented, becomes a majority, lasts for a while, then gives way to a new religion that later becomes the majority and the cycle starts all over again. This has happened since the first humans created the first religion thousands of years ago. Christianity will not be the last to be replaced by another one. Another mythos.
griffynelvyncraft 11 months ago
Lets get one thing clear....it's obvious the creator of this video is not only trying to deceive , but shows this with his obvious lack of knowledge of Christianity...After all the so called sun gods were introduced , they came to Jesus at which the narator says " He was visited by now get this THREE kings......Who ever said there were three of them......NO ONE EVER SAID THREE KINGS....you know this is a fraud video.............Better yet from satin himself...Get it right next time !!
richards25able 11 months ago
You all should read Zacheriah Sitchen books they are based on the oldest culture in the world "Sumeria". The bases for all religious beginnings.If you have a problem with the text he also has carbon dated tablets that date back over 10,000 BC if still you don't believe it then you are part of the dumbed down america i feel sorry for you.
zacheriah84 11 months ago
What the fuck am I watching? This is more laughable than the Bible.
LolitaSupreme 11 months ago
OWNED.
Tungsten23 1 year ago
Take this stupid think off! This is not true!
unlimitedchikara 1 year ago
@unlimitedchikara seriously... thats you witty comment
paenitet7nullum 1 year ago
christians get butthurt at evertything faster than u can say god
MrKiller7001 1 year ago
@MrKiller7001 So do Atheists.
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
I'm sorry. I'm not a Christian and I think Christianity needs to be debunked because it is holding humanity back. But a lot of the information in this video is misleading and simply not true.
MrOopsidaisy 1 year ago
@MrOopsidaisy This video, because of the misleading information and lies, actually promotes Chrisianity rather than debunks it.
carloss1960 1 year ago
most of these marry up but Thor never died for three days or any of the bollocks that marries up with the story. He dies once, at the end of time and never comes back. Odin dies once at the end of time and neve comes back. If you want to see any similarity, he is hung from a tree for 9 days as a sacrifice to himself but then falls. He does not die. There's a fundamental flaw in this video in that is wildly inaccurate about most forms of mythology other thant the over examined late mediterranean.
CyberSoldierGerm 1 year ago
I don't think this video should be flagged, but it's incorrect. There are some assumptions & at least 1 contradiction (easily seen)
=> First error is the language. The sign 'm.' of Virgo is in no relation with the 'm' from Maria or Maya or Myrra. That's more coincidence. Are all the mothers of all the people in that list named with an M?
=> contradiction: Mother of Adonis is called Io from Greece, but later on in the vid it's Myrra...
Don't forget that in Jesus' case all was predicted.
DiScuppa 1 year ago
Now after watching this video, does anyone understand my nickname?
SEThatered 1 year ago
oh fuck not zeitgeist again.
that movie is so easily refuted.
-atheist.
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago
educated christian <------oxymoron
ThaGodWeCreate 1 year ago 19
@ThaGodWeCreate I agree. Most Christians don't really know their own belief system.
bk00L1 10 months ago 5
it amazes me how many people watch this bullshit and believe it without even researching the "facts" for themselves. pretty much everything except the names in this video is made up.
busysignal2006 1 year ago
The bulletproof glass is in the pope mobile, because the last one was shot.Not killed, but shot. And, no, I'm not Catholic. I'm Lutheran, and this video doesn't make me angry. I've researched mythology extensively. But, I do still belive in God and Jesus, because, Jesus was the SON of God. Not the SUN God. He was born during the Summer, but since December 25th was a holiday for the Romans, the people who adopted Christianity, they chose that date.
pinkluchiakaito 1 year ago
@pinkluchiakaito Actually Jesus was born in the middle of November during the flocking of the sheep.
MrAndrewhull 1 year ago
Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. Luke 1:8 And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course, Luke 1:23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house. Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, ...
zacheriah84 11 months ago
(doctorh) you are right on the dot. Most christians just picked the day dec 25th because of the sun God that is of pagan decent. It is never said that "Jesus the only living God" was born on that day. Also you have to look at that the bible is the oldest book known to man kind. Many other religions have gone and recreated what happened to Jesus to fit there own belief system..... like Mormonism....
geoboyer 1 year ago
@geoboyer oldest book known to man?? no its not...
BEUKOID 1 year ago
@BEUKOID
I think he means in terms of history.
Nevertheless it is very old. Dead sea scrolls for example.
But I also think it's not the oldest one (as in matter).
It's not the issue of this video though, no?
DiScuppa 1 year ago
REFUTING THIS VIDEO:
1) It is a WELL KNOWN fact, that Christ was NOT born on December 25th!, but rather around July (mid year).
2)) The Bible doesnt mention "Three Kings" at all - only "Magi/Wisemen from the east
Refuted
doctorh2005 1 year ago
according to the egyptologysts Horus the "SUN GOD" was not a virgin. Horus was born to the goddess "Isis" after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband "Osiris", except his penis which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by a catfish"In later myths about Isis, she had a brother, Osiris, who became her husband, and she then was said to have conceived Horus." i dont even need to go further for its nonsense.
elmdub 1 year ago
the Hebrews (JEWS) Jesus was the God of the Old Testament. He didnt call himself the SUN GOD, he said the SON of God. Son Sun may sound the same but are two different things in nature. its ignorant to intertwine the two words as meaning the same. its like say write and right, are the same in definition. this is STUPID! easily refuted. BUT its impossible to know the birthday of the gods of mythology of these cultures. for example egyptology is the study of everything about egypt.
elmdub 1 year ago
Then the Jews and as well as Christians are waiting a Messiah that personified the Attributes of the Sun. check this out I am a Christian, and this Video does not get me angry as it wants me to be lol, in Malachi 4:2, says the Shemesh which is the Hebrew word for SUN. Called the Sun of righteousness, He who was to come with healng in his wings. parabolic, metaphoric, allegoric,etc These other dieties of egypt, greece etc are never historically attributed by their own culture to be the God of
elmdub 1 year ago
So many versions of one story disprove it? I dont understand wouldent that make it more concrete?
cmiller8492 1 year ago
This video does not keep getting removed because of its "truth", it keeps getting removed because it is the first part of a copyrighted movie called "Zeitgeist".
And let me tell you, I am an atheist and this entire first part of the video is complete utter historical crap. There is alot of good material out there for atheists, this movie is easily refutable and is simply around to promote the video creator's New Age beliefs.
Seriously, read stuff by Dawkins instead.
Poveglia 1 year ago 34
@Poveglia your an athiest,mmmm. i smell a christian. from what ive gathered dr murdoch is an archeologist that has delved into the archives at history museums, and reads at first hand the hieroglyphics based in egypt. so id like to see your explaination.
kram83au 1 year ago
My friend Jordan Maxwell and others made this possible. They keep removing it due to your lack of Copyright. Simply go to Harry fox agency dot com and buy a 35 dollar license. This video is of no importance otherwise. Obviously your mentally delusional thinking it is removed due to anti-christian topics. The same video is everywhere and is never removed.
MrAntireligions 9 months ago
@Poveglia Dawkins is a good read but if you would really like to educate yourself read sam harris' "End of Faith" Best book ive ever read, honestly.
theCYNIC 8 months ago
@Poveglia
or Christopher Hitchens!
PHOSPH3R 8 months ago
@Poveglia "this entire first part of the video is complete utter historical crap" That isn't what the scholars say.
changingmyself 5 months ago
@changingmyself
Atheist scholar here. Horus wasn't born of a virgin, wasn't born on December 25th and none of the other purported parallels are actually true either. Go look them up instead of believing everything you see or hear.
Username93611 5 months ago
@Username93611 I am an atheist scholar also, and yes, Horus was born of a virgin on December 25th and yes, all of the other parallels are tru also. I have looked them up, would you like to see them?
changingmyself 5 months ago
@changingmyself
Absolutely. Post links. I already know you're quite wrong... Horus was born "...on the last day of the Egyptian Khoaik which is November 15th." But I'm interested in seeing whatever disreputable source you come up with.
Username93611 5 months ago
@Username93611 Post links to what?? "Horus was born "...on the last day of the Egyptian Khoaik"
Which is the reference to Horus the Elder, NOT Horus the son of Isis.
I can give you the books, the scholars that say it and you can go on google books and read it for yourself.
changingmyself 5 months ago
One of the things that made Christians freak is when i mentioned that obviously at least one sinner died after Jesus's resurrection one day after in China. Now since that sinner could have never of heard of Jesus or what Jesus said does the sinner have to burn in hell forever because of his sin and because he could not ask Jesus to forgive him/her. When i brought this point up to fundamental Christians they freaked out. The majority of them said "Yes, He/She is in Hell!"
kellystone84 1 year ago
OMFG I LOVE THIS! rofl "think of this as one of the trials of belief you will have to go through. get it?" omg omg i love this
cabbidge2 1 year ago
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bryanchud2000 1 year ago
NO religion likes to be questioned, none more so than the abrahamic religions, just look at the penalties they used to impose (and would still love to impose if they could) on those that did. Lets face it all religions are rather sordid and corrupt at their very heart, lies based upon lies. People need to THINK for themselves instead of being lazy and following these brands of stupidity. Really nice video.
vanderroos 1 year ago
lol i still not angry after watching this but it gave me an idea for a study. THANKS!
Jrockershadow 1 year ago
So it's literally all about the sun. People are stupid and made it into a human form lol
Afraid0fGhosts 1 year ago
Except Christ wasn't born on December 25th, correct?
TheVKFox 1 year ago
@TheVKFox 100% correct. The time of Christ's birth is not in the bible. The so-called "Christians" of today are really worshiping ancient false gods. TRUE Christianity has been hidden from the world. They changed the 7 annual holy festivals of God into Pagan Holidays and the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday..There is no scriptural writ in either the Old or New testaments to justify this. These people who claim be "Christians" are really observing a cloaked form of paganism labeled Christianity.
skrimps99 1 year ago
THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES (TANACH) ARE FILLED WITH PROPHECIES ABOUT THE COMING MESSIAH. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
JUST FEW FROM THESE; - PLEASE, READ THEM ALL IN HEBREW.
MICAH 5,2 ISA 9,6-7 ISA 40,3 MAL 3,1 ZECH 9,9 PSALM 41,9
PSALM 55,12-14 ZECH 11,12-13 ZECH 12,10 ISA 7,14 ISA 49,7 ISA 53,7 PSALM 22,16-18 PSALM 69,21 EX 12,46 PSALM 34,20 ISA 53,9-10 PSALM 16,10 PSALM 22,16 ZECH 12,10 ISA 53,5 +12 ISA 9,6 ISA 35,5-6 ISA 50,6 ISA 52,14-15 ISA 53,4 ISA 53,14 ISA 66,24
anitaeducation 1 year ago
THE NEW COVENANT WAS PROPHESIED IN THE TANACH AT;
JER 31,33 ISA 55,6-7
"SEEK THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND, CALL ON HIM WHILE HE IS NEAR."
YESHUA IS THE ONE and ONLY MESSIAH !
JESUS THE CHRIST IS THE WORLD'S MESSIAH !
anitaeducation 1 year ago
@anitaeducation what is your point? the new testament was written long after the "old" testament, many scriptures in the NT were written to fit those in the OT, you still think it's all real thats why you reference from it, none of it is real NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SHOUT !
B2K8888 1 year ago
no having a bible only book burning would really piss off christians
Thecool90sguy 1 year ago
whether jesus died on a cross or a pole can be debated with historical evidence and correct translation of greek words. The moar you know
xXMrSnarkyXx 1 year ago
so infact what is mentioned in this video is NOT FACT.....sorry people
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525 - Eh, your comment is "NOT FACT. Sorry Frivera0526" There. Now it's my word against yours. You will have to actually prove where it's not fact in order to gain the upper hand in my argument. And even learn that words are just that until proven otherwise. Hence the defense against Christianity.
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice this video is from the movie "Zeigeist" look it up here on youtube....plus most of what's on this video are not factual... like jesus being born on Dec 25th when in fact it was something that the Catholic Church did so that it could go against the pagan holiday celebrated on the 25th of Dec.
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525 - Much agreed. However, the video is not inaccurate to claim that Jesus was born on Dec.25th. This is something that MOST Christians believe (whether they know Jesus was born another date or not, they associate Christmas with his birth.) Separating Christianity via the evolution of Christianity makes no sense.
But either way, I wonder why this video is associated with Zeitgeist? Isn't that movie about moving to another planet or something? What's it go to do with mythology? lol
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice well in all honesty if you believe in the bible it never mentions Dec 25th, in fact it doesn't say any date at all just that the sheppards where carring for their sheeps in the field when he was born.
The clip that we are discussing is part of the movies titled "Zeigeist - The Movie" it's here on youtube
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525 - I've read/studied and even studied the original Hebrew bible. I'm aware that the whole Dec 25 date was taken from the Winter Solstice of the pagans. But that's not what I mean at all.
As for the movie, I was just wondering why the historical mentioning of pre-christian deities would be relevant to a movie regarding some ideal future, etc.
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice well then i guess I am miss understanding what you are saying in regards to Dec 25th...please explain what you mean by it.
as for the movie all I am saying is that it is a clip from the movie...it's part of an opion of the director who filmed it.
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525 - I understand what you mean about the movie, I'm just asking (cause I've never seen the movie and am not really interested in wasting hours watching it -- no disrespect intended) how is it related to the history of pagan gods/Christianity?
As for my elaborating about the Roman Emperor turning the pagan's Winter Solstice into "Christmas" a "Christian holiday" -- I don't understand where to explain, lol to me that pretty much says it all. hehe
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
In Greek mythology, Dionysus is made out to be a son of Zeus and the mortal Semele. He is described as being womanly or "man-womanish. Dionysus was born on Mount Pramnos in the island of Ikaria, where Zeus went to release the now-fully-grown baby from his thigh. In this version, Dionysus is borne by two "mothers" (Semele and Zeus) before his birth, hence the epithet dimētōr (of two mothers) associated with his being "twice-born".
frivera0525 1 year ago
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@frivera0525
"In Greek mythology, Dionysus is made out to be a son of Zeus and the mortal Semele".
In Christian mythology, Jesus is made out to be a son of God and the mortal Mary.
maxhiner52 1 year ago
Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives the date of Krishna's birth, known as Janmashtami,[36] as either 18 or 21 July 3228 BCE.
frivera0525 1 year ago
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maxhiner52 1 year ago
Attis was reborn as an evergreen pine tree. This rebirth was celebrated on 25 March - the festival of Hilaria.
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525
"Attis was reborn as an evergreen pine tree. This rebirth was celebrated on 25 March - the festival of Hilaria."
25 March. Around the time when Jesus was supposedly resurrected, otherwise known as Easter.
maxhiner52 1 year ago
@maxhiner52 but he is not born on the 25th of Dec like the vidoe says he is....thats the point
frivera0525 1 year ago
was ripe, Nana who was a daughter of the river-god Sangarius picked an almond and laid it in her bosom. The almond disappeared, and she became pregnant. Nana abandoned the baby (Attis). The infant was tended by a he-goat.
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525
Hence the non sexual virgin birth of Attis.
maxhiner52 1 year ago
In the late fourth century a cult of Attis became a feature of the Greek world. The story of his origins at Agdistis, recorded by the traveler Pausanias, have some distinctly non-Greek elements: Pausanias was told that the daemon Agdistis initially bore both male and female attributes. But the Olympian gods, fearing Agdistis, cut off the male organ and cast it away. There grew up from it an almond-tree, and when its fruit
frivera0525 1 year ago
Horus was never crucified, Horus was born to the goddess Isis after she retrieved all the dismembered body parts of her murdered husband Osiris and horus was never visited by 3 kings
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525
There are numerous amulets and hieroglyphs depicting Horus crucified. I was going to post you a link showing you pictures, but damn Youtube won't let me post links. I can PM a picture of Horus crucified if you like?
maxhiner52 1 year ago
@maxhiner52 based on text there is nothing saying the he was crucified and that's where I am getting my facts from.
frivera0525 1 year ago
I find your video interesting to the facts but you are still wrong. I think that Christ was born, lived , performed the signs ,died , and was buried, and rose from the dead and is seated with the Father in Heavenly places. It because God wanted to depose the false gods of the east to prove that the Lord Jesus Christ is the real God and others gods are false. Also He is only one who redeem men from their sins and show humanity the reason for they exist.
jazzi34 1 year ago
@jazzi34 Can you give proof of this outside of the bible? The bible is just a book and if you want to put all your faith into a book without good reasons to convince others then you can't expect people to not consider you crazy. You said you "think"...a fact is something you know.
1bzoe 1 year ago
Finnaly the proof that He is not real
camerons18 1 year ago
Lol um... someone keeps telling me that after 1:30 this video contains content from Zeigeist.
Is this true? I don't know too much about the movie, itself so I have to ask...
I personally see nothing of the sort, so I'm just going to assume he's just a Christian trying to dismiss the content of this video by claiming it's preposterous "zeigeist" nonsense.
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice lol. Dude, go to the zeitgeist website and view it for yourself. This video is almost entirely stolen from that ridiculously factually incorrect movie. Nice way of sticking your head in the sand and saying that anyone who disagrees with you is "probably a Christian"... nice atheist "openmindedness" and "Rationality"... lol!
stallion4life 1 year ago
@stallion4life - "Dude," that comment is over a month old. I know about the movie Zeitgeist. And no, it's not incorrect about it's points regarding religion.
You were sounding smooth until you called me an atheist. Hah! Looks like you're really dying to feel superior to them, aren'tcha? Unfortunately, you're going to have a tough time. So you have to resort to assuming in comments.
Now go hang up a Pagan evergreen tree and call it "Christian" (Jeremiah 10:1-5) ... "Lol."
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
@YourDarkAccomplice Zeitgeist is wrong about pretty much everything. You can read debunking sites on the internet... site that actually give references and citations, unlike Zeitgeist. And YOU'RE the one who claimed someone was probably a Christian just because you didn't like what they said.
stallion4life 1 year ago
@stallion4life - Ad hominem. You think because a theory is "wrong" or "ignorant" that's an excuse to dismiss absolutely everything it says. I never claimed Zeitgeist was authentic. What are you talking about?
Now, in order to plant a GOOD lie, you need to base it off of some truths (you can see this tactic in the holy bible). And no, the person I was discussion WAS a christian. It's the only reason he defended his grounds so smugly as you have.
You should research older gods that predate yours
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
As a Christ follower, I have to say you've done well to research the history of the pagan festival Christmas. Well done. Where does it say Jesus was born on Dec 25th? There is nothing new under the sun, including the "revelations" in this video. Simple fact is that God is love.
bryanchud2000 1 year ago
@bryanchud2000 if you're a fallower of christ then you must believe he was born on the 25th of December, unless you're a Jehovas witness, Christianity is mixed up with paganism and throughout the old testament they practiced pagan rituals I.E the sacrifice of first born animals to God, burnt offerings, and certain codes, christianity stole from paganism, because paganism pre date christianity by thousands of years
zipitup75 1 year ago
@zipitup75 actually Jesus was never born on Dec 25th...the bible never mention's when he was born. The catholic church made up Dec 25th as his birth to compete with the pagen god of thw winter solstise.
frivera0525 1 year ago
@frivera0525 i know that my friend, i was just answering someone else's comment, they say they were a christian "christ fallower" to be exact, but yet they were arguing with jesus being born on the 25th, when i go to church thats what they teach even though i dont believe it makes sense
zipitup75 1 year ago
@zipitup75 my apoligey then :)
frivera0525 1 year ago
wow another rant on christians
WOW thats something you never see on youtube -_- so original You will barely ever see a christian response that's decent simply because you have many athiests flagging down responses = /
maxbiteme 1 year ago
@maxbiteme lol what do you have against this video? What can you disprove here?
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago
Ofcourse this video gets banned,cause only christians can bash on other peoples beliefs as much as they want,but if it comes to their own they get all sorts of pissy.
+ they'd rather believe in some dude in the clouds than hear the truth
ImmaShaman 1 year ago
Zeitgeist :)
Myshingone 1 year ago
Im a minor, I'm born christian, I don't want to take any part in my religion at all. Its pointless. Im forced.
bryanpb983 1 year ago
@bryanpb983 same here
wlauer111 1 year ago
@bryanpb983 Good for you and others like you. Stand up for your rights. Don't give in! I'm much older than you and we didn't have YouTube when I was your age so I thought I was alone and was forced to go along with religion. You have a chance!
steveinchelsea 1 year ago
I am a Christian. All I want to say is if you actualy go back and study history itself instead of going to sites that support this video you will find that the people who worshiped their god or gods at that time did not think the way this video is talking about.
jstrick117 1 year ago