i'm not pro-hamas or pro-fatah, but i can say this much...
hamas was democratically elected by the palestinian people. abbas was appointed by western govts. westbank residents under fatah rule are sitting back and relaxing in front of the tv watching those in gaza being murdered by israel...
neither party may have it right, but one certainly is much closer to being decent, while the other is bordering on evil.
funny, i've never seen a member of hamas point a gun at anyone in order to gain political support... however, i have seen many members of fatah do this.
hamas was not a political party at all prior to the elections... it was an islamic social movement aimed at providing social services for the palestinian people, and they were good at it, so they had a lot of support and ran in the election.
fatah and the west did not see it coming, which is why they were & still are so pissed about it.
Im not a palestinian but i really hate hamas for being so violent and hurting both isreali and palestine people. fatah used to be a better solution i think.
if hamas thinks this will bring a recognized palestinian nation they are sorely mistaken sooner or later every country will join the fight against hamas and hamas will lose
follow from the comment below...attempts to overthrow Hamas after being elected go Quranic principles. It is narrated on the auhority of Abdullah b.mAsud that the Messenger of Allah SAW obseved...fighting against (Muslims) is unbelef. Sahih Muslim, Vol. 1, ChXXiX, Hadith No . 122
Hamas is the democratically elected governemnt. The Fatah opposition t this and their violence against the Hamas to regain authority is wrong in two ways. Firstly, Fatah is sposored by Irael and America and thus will respond to their every needs over the needs of Palestinian people. This will certainly undermine the sovereignty of the Palestinian entity. Secondly...
Both Fatah and Hamas have their pros and cons. Fatah is a secular party, which IMO is good, but many in the Party have lost the will to defend the Palestinians against Israeli terror. Hamas is still determined to fight(which is good), but they are Islamist(which isn't good).
Silly. You all expect respect from the Israelis, meanwhile you have no respect for your own people.
Imagine if the Democrats "worked out" their differences with the Republicans (or Labor and Torys for that matter) to the street with stinger missiles and kalashnikovs.
There's a simple answer. Wake up from living in the 7th century, and join the rest of the human race.
The quicker you all realize that "Islam" is yet another form of control, the better off HUMANITY will be.
#1 - I never ever heard anyone who oppose Israel ask for respect from them.
#2 - This is a different country with a different political format. Things are done different here. This is a land of faith unlike the west.
#3 - I want to get into your stupid atheist comment but I only have like 200 words left I can use so I can't, really. All I will say is, I'm guessing your like a lot of atheist and use "science" has your reasoning, but science never said disproved god. If you want to PM me ok.
No. Nothing said here even leads to that thought so your putting words in my mouth. I will say though I find it funny how Atheist love to call theists out for violent "theists". What about good theists such as Mother Teresa and Gandhi? I will make you a deal, I will take blame for bin Laden if you take blame for all the Atheist corrupt communist leaders in history. Deal? So don't start with theist are violent stuff.
Palestine tv (fatah tv) is a war-mongering lying channel that uses every oppurtunity to vilify hamas and is devoid of any intelligence. Islamic Jihad did not accuse Hamas of the deaths of it cadres. To assume Hamas and islamist organisation of tearing pages out of the quran is bull.
"The minute I saw him move his hand toward the belt, I fired and his hand fell," Mor told Channel 10 TV. "Two and a half minutes later he lifted his hand again, again toward the belt, and I knelt down and fired four bullets to the center of his head."
fuck you and your stupid religions. Thank god I live in America where church and state are separate. Religion has no place in government. Religion is a sickness and a virus and religion needs to be cured.
wat u mean fuck ur riligon u no somethin goin to happin to u bad maybe today or tomarro or after 10 years but i wish u waz in my hands right now i swear i would fuck u up u fuckin racest
Fuck Fatah for this video, and fuck Hamas for making a similar, anti-Fatah video! Both Fatah and Hamas are idiots! They are stupid! They need unity, not division! It is common sense that if you are divided you will fail!
Hahahaha The Koran learning chair??? I can pick one of those up at Wal-Mart!!! hahahaha Plastic Patio furniture!!! hahahaha I really can't stop laughing!!! Does the chair have to be blessed after you get it from the supermarket?!?!?!
Do you people really believe that there is a difference between Fatah and Hamas?
Both extrimists, Both does not deserves gods mercy!!! the world hates extrimists, even the muslim themselves, and those who believe in death are those who are disparaging the Islams name for all the good muslims in the world, those who really want peace! (im a jewish from Israel)
So you do admit that its not really the land you are fighting for... right now you just said that you are a raisist right? so its not about Israel anymore, its about killing jews? cmon bitch ill stick your head up your ass...
We are winning Iraq. We have major battle ships in the gulf waiting for orders to take out Iran. With the base in Iraq we will have an excellent foothold in the east. You people will all be fucked. That is why I say surrender now to save hundreds of thousands of lives. During war we can and will use nuclear weapons if the US and her Allies loose to many troops or our home land is attacked. So either way we win. Like it or not. That is the cold hard truth.
Doing what they do best--Killing! This is further evidence of these arabs being a failed pre-state. It would be madness to give them a state of their own. They have not shown a single indication they can handle self government. If they were smart, capable, sane people, they'd have shown the world they deserve a state of their own when Israel left Gaza 2 years ago, but we all know how that turned out.
You must believe something about them! From your comment I take it that you believe that they are not honest in what they say. I believe that you are right.
i'm not pro-hamas or pro-fatah, but i can say this much...
hamas was democratically elected by the palestinian people. abbas was appointed by western govts. westbank residents under fatah rule are sitting back and relaxing in front of the tv watching those in gaza being murdered by israel...
neither party may have it right, but one certainly is much closer to being decent, while the other is bordering on evil.
mindless2nite 3 years ago
democratic????yeah...i vote for them also if they put a gun on my head.....lol democractic.........
Davediamant 3 years ago
funny, i've never seen a member of hamas point a gun at anyone in order to gain political support... however, i have seen many members of fatah do this.
hamas was not a political party at all prior to the elections... it was an islamic social movement aimed at providing social services for the palestinian people, and they were good at it, so they had a lot of support and ran in the election.
fatah and the west did not see it coming, which is why they were & still are so pissed about it.
mindless2nite 3 years ago
If both stoped fighting and joined together they could kill and destoryed Isreal.
cla93U 3 years ago
Fuck Sharia fuck Hamas. Fatah will be better for the Palestinians.
TurcoBarbarossa 3 years ago 4
fuck you .
fuck fatah and islamic traidors
EMOTTIVAC 3 years ago
Fuck you, Fuck Hamas and absent minded lunatics like them for selling them out for war and weapons smuggling from Iran!
XboxFreakboy 2 years ago
Im not a palestinian but i really hate hamas for being so violent and hurting both isreali and palestine people. fatah used to be a better solution i think.
fatah wants peace right?
frontliner2 3 years ago
if hamas thinks this will bring a recognized palestinian nation they are sorely mistaken sooner or later every country will join the fight against hamas and hamas will lose
raytsway 3 years ago
follow from the comment below...attempts to overthrow Hamas after being elected go Quranic principles. It is narrated on the auhority of Abdullah b.mAsud that the Messenger of Allah SAW obseved...fighting against (Muslims) is unbelef. Sahih Muslim, Vol. 1, ChXXiX, Hadith No . 122
sheikhalislam 3 years ago
Hamas is the democratically elected governemnt. The Fatah opposition t this and their violence against the Hamas to regain authority is wrong in two ways. Firstly, Fatah is sposored by Irael and America and thus will respond to their every needs over the needs of Palestinian people. This will certainly undermine the sovereignty of the Palestinian entity. Secondly...
sheikhalislam 3 years ago
and these hamas lunatics call themselves devout muslims while they hide and fire rockets from mosques and endanger the followers of islam
raytsway 3 years ago
Deluded.
revolutionist893 3 years ago
Inshallah Hamas will be defeated and we will go back to control Gaza and save our people.
Hamas don't care about anything but their pockets!!
Only stupid Iran supports them.
Allah will make them pay for killing our people and taking over Gaza illegally, I will never forgive them.
Fatah for everrrrrrrrrrrrrr
2912770 3 years ago
I wish the best of luck to Fatah in defeating their Hamas foes, then all of Palestine may have a sensible government in charge.
Baculus 3 years ago
awesome .
slLLyhumans 3 years ago
Hamas=Israel Both Kill Muslims
PrinceHamodi 3 years ago
this come's from the jews
blackmagiciano 3 years ago
Both Fatah and Hamas have their pros and cons. Fatah is a secular party, which IMO is good, but many in the Party have lost the will to defend the Palestinians against Israeli terror. Hamas is still determined to fight(which is good), but they are Islamist(which isn't good).
StalinLeninMao 3 years ago
they areant islamist so it isnt good? then suck a dick
popnadeem89 3 years ago
Silly. You all expect respect from the Israelis, meanwhile you have no respect for your own people.
Imagine if the Democrats "worked out" their differences with the Republicans (or Labor and Torys for that matter) to the street with stinger missiles and kalashnikovs.
There's a simple answer. Wake up from living in the 7th century, and join the rest of the human race.
The quicker you all realize that "Islam" is yet another form of control, the better off HUMANITY will be.
protoblood 3 years ago 3
#1 - I never ever heard anyone who oppose Israel ask for respect from them.
#2 - This is a different country with a different political format. Things are done different here. This is a land of faith unlike the west.
#3 - I want to get into your stupid atheist comment but I only have like 200 words left I can use so I can't, really. All I will say is, I'm guessing your like a lot of atheist and use "science" has your reasoning, but science never said disproved god. If you want to PM me ok.
nirvana563 3 years ago
So your God wants you to fight and kill :D lmao
PeacefulSoul20 3 years ago
No. Nothing said here even leads to that thought so your putting words in my mouth. I will say though I find it funny how Atheist love to call theists out for violent "theists". What about good theists such as Mother Teresa and Gandhi? I will make you a deal, I will take blame for bin Laden if you take blame for all the Atheist corrupt communist leaders in history. Deal? So don't start with theist are violent stuff.
nirvana563 3 years ago
Palestine tv (fatah tv) is a war-mongering lying channel that uses every oppurtunity to vilify hamas and is devoid of any intelligence. Islamic Jihad did not accuse Hamas of the deaths of it cadres. To assume Hamas and islamist organisation of tearing pages out of the quran is bull.
Ididntputitthere 3 years ago
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"The minute I saw him move his hand toward the belt, I fired and his hand fell," Mor told Channel 10 TV. "Two and a half minutes later he lifted his hand again, again toward the belt, and I knelt down and fired four bullets to the center of his head."
acknumbers 4 years ago
so sad seing muslims fight muslims, the day hamas and fatah unite, it will be a good day
916saleen 4 years ago 2
fuck you and your stupid religions. Thank god I live in America where church and state are separate. Religion has no place in government. Religion is a sickness and a virus and religion needs to be cured.
opaloid 4 years ago
AMEN BROTHER! religion brings hell and misery!
unrealxXx 4 years ago
ur a douch bag soon america will just be like palestine
thepplwillpreveal 4 years ago
wat u mean fuck ur riligon u no somethin goin to happin to u bad maybe today or tomarro or after 10 years but i wish u waz in my hands right now i swear i would fuck u up u fuckin racest
plotigers08 3 years ago
Fuck Fatah for this video, and fuck Hamas for making a similar, anti-Fatah video! Both Fatah and Hamas are idiots! They are stupid! They need unity, not division! It is common sense that if you are divided you will fail!
ChristianSocialist 4 years ago 4
Hahahaha The Koran learning chair??? I can pick one of those up at Wal-Mart!!! hahahaha Plastic Patio furniture!!! hahahaha I really can't stop laughing!!! Does the chair have to be blessed after you get it from the supermarket?!?!?!
ch00nd 4 years ago
Who gives and Israel will live forever!!!
Do you people really believe that there is a difference between Fatah and Hamas?
Both extrimists, Both does not deserves gods mercy!!! the world hates extrimists, even the muslim themselves, and those who believe in death are those who are disparaging the Islams name for all the good muslims in the world, those who really want peace! (im a jewish from Israel)
HigherHeaven 4 years ago 2
please stop making fitna. hamas and jihad had some disput and now everything is o.k. alhamdallah
reh7utin 4 years ago
hamas is making young people go to crazy .. and do stupid things as killing themselves as the best solution....
in this age this this doesnt make good results for anybody .. they are just making worst things
shirin001 4 years ago
blow up the fucken jews
IBRAHEAM305954 4 years ago
Blow up the fuckin jews?
So you do admit that its not really the land you are fighting for... right now you just said that you are a raisist right? so its not about Israel anymore, its about killing jews? cmon bitch ill stick your head up your ass...
HigherHeaven 4 years ago
We are winning Iraq. We have major battle ships in the gulf waiting for orders to take out Iran. With the base in Iraq we will have an excellent foothold in the east. You people will all be fucked. That is why I say surrender now to save hundreds of thousands of lives. During war we can and will use nuclear weapons if the US and her Allies loose to many troops or our home land is attacked. So either way we win. Like it or not. That is the cold hard truth.
stealthwalnut 4 years ago
you aint gonna use them nukes for shit. your own people will rebel if you did. dont you think that they would ahve used them by now.
wasim187 4 years ago
Thats because unlike your countries we have something only civilized nations have. Diplomacy!
redelman431 4 years ago
yeah, we have diplomacy they have killplomacy
joealencar 4 years ago
Wacala que asco me dan ambos grupos. Ambos son terroristas y no espero nada menos que crueldad y maldad de estos.
portillonyc 4 years ago
Lets give them a State! Such lovely people.
I have to admit, I thought the HAMAS video had way better production values, I wonder if they're contracting video production with Al Qaeda.
VinceP1974 4 years ago 2
Such loving people, I love the smell of napalm in the morning, they are pure evil
castraregina 4 years ago
yh it is evil to liberate your own land from occupiers. get an education you fool
wasim187 4 years ago
"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind." ~Bob Marley.
The true "occupation" is the occupation of the minds of children that are taught terrorism as religious ideal.
romanerdstrom 4 years ago 2
Drop a bomb on Palestine. lol
ElZomboFantasma 4 years ago
Doing what they do best--Killing! This is further evidence of these arabs being a failed pre-state. It would be madness to give them a state of their own. They have not shown a single indication they can handle self government. If they were smart, capable, sane people, they'd have shown the world they deserve a state of their own when Israel left Gaza 2 years ago, but we all know how that turned out.
Amerizionist 4 years ago 3
anyone said "culture of death" while i wasn't looking?
p.s. here's the Hamas version...
htt[p://w]ww.youtube[.]com/watch?v=sv2RlSuHGQA
remove []s from the link.
jaakobou 4 years ago
Hamas, Fatah I don't believe any of them.
outkid 4 years ago 2
You must believe something about them! From your comment I take it that you believe that they are not honest in what they say. I believe that you are right.
notapal 4 years ago
I know they exist, yet they exist with out an iota of honesty or scruple in their souls.
outkid 4 years ago
i disagree with them both but at least its a temporary shield for the palestinians to take cover behind
wasim187 4 years ago