The Quest:Book 2 - Exodus

[HeFoundTomHagen]

"In Exodus we have an account of the manner in which Jehovah delivered the Jews from Egyptian bondage. We now know that the Jews were never enslaved by the Egyptians; that the entire story is a fiction. We know this because there is not found in Hebrew a word of Egyptian origin and there is not found in the language of the Egyptians a word of Hebrew origin. So we know that the Hebrews and Egyptians could not have lived together." - Robert Ingersoll

jews schemed to steal Egypt with this lie

[YMNTWTANKH]

As I said in my reply to Genesis, the Bible is the worst book of fiction written and the Book of Exodus proves that. Exodus NEVER happened - no parting of the "red" sea. That is a mistranslation. It was the Sea of Reeds.

2 million people wandering in the Sinai Desert for 40 years. Where is the evidence? Archaeologists have been digging there since 1920 and found NOTHING - no remains. No discarded ojjects, Exodus was written about 700BCE by persons unknown. There are no original Manuscripts.

[Ilamarea]

In red sea particullar waterweed is present, which during certain seazons changes its color to red. During one of the seazons its water levels allso changes creating "walkable" path, but who knows how it looked back then?

Again as in genesis. Bible is not fiction. For most events in it there are phisical evidences. The thing about it, there were historical evidences described in a way how ppl sought them long ago.

You sound very stupid.

[TheBaseballSaint]

i liked your explanation at the end. I've been trying to make my own journey into the bible. I might start trying to make videos soon.. I'm going to make history, but i'm lost

[askegg]

God's chosen people are pretty stupid.

[stonedcommander]

yes,without a doubt

[SoftwareEngineer3]

As I understand it, (early) Judaism and the bible in general did not deny the existence of other gods.

Also, isn't there a thing about god hardening the pharaohs heart, overriding his so called free will? I know this is a real issue for bible scholars.

The point about the miracles is a good one, and some atheists have made it before (though they phrased it differently of course), but also remember that lightning is not proof of Zeus, and a volcano erupting is no proof of Loki.

[Omhra]

those people wanted to believe on something badly... just like people do today...

I cannot separate the bull killing from the gold, bull... it is still a bull used in worship.

-Other Gods... that is also a problem.. that indicates there are many Gods, by definition polytheist. And to pick one over another...

We non-believers do experience miracles, we just don't give endorsement to deity for them.

Again, I respect you and what you are doing, we need more like you.

[BespokeGroupUK]

you have done a good breakdown so far. keep it up :)

[DragonInMyAnus]

hey stonedcommander have you seen the video "Epic god fail" by darkmatter2525? you should watch it

[coolintruddle]

The pharoah commonly associated with the exodus is Amenhotep III,the grandfather of Tutankhamen.We know he ruled from 1386bce 1351 bce.His capital was Thebes,also in Upper Egypt(southern Egypt)

[coolintruddle]

Interestingly enough,shortly after the exodus is said to take place,there was a short lived atempt to make Egypt monotheistic.Amenhotep's son,Amenhotep IV(Amen or Amun being his patriarchal god) changed his name to AkhenAten(the sun)He placed Aten as the one true god.He was assasinated(probably by the priesthood) and was succeeded by his son,the well known Tutankhamun(notice the return Amun or Amen)

[Deagra940]

i like these videos. id read along too, but am busy with classes. is it hard to read when you get to those tedious parts?

[stonedcommander]

yes,very tedious.like an instruction Manuel in some parts...some pages i lost my train of thought and had to read the page over...yikes! and ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[gotilk]

No good deed goes unpunished. I don't actually believe that in most cases, but it seems to apply in the Moses scenario.

[gotilk]

Great videos. I'm keeping up.

[Danmill23]

great series SC

[cheerlessdarkndeadly]

I was reading actually that the Red Sea is never specifically mentioned in Exodus (not the older versions anyway), apparently the water which is separated is actually named 'Yam Suph', which means sea of reeds or sea of rushes, and 'Yam' in this context could refer to salt or fresh water, so it could be ANY body of water. Also, to cross the Red Sea from the south of Egypt, nearest to Mt. Sinai, the body of water is rarely less than 150 miles across, so it would take days at least to cross.

[stonedcommander]

it says in my bibles dictionary that "the sea" referred to by the Israelites is actually the red sea...but you are right,that is not said in the text of the bible.

[cheerlessdarkndeadly]

It was just something I read, I'm no bible scholar so i'll trust your bible dictionary on that one. It does pose an interesting geographical question though, about why Moses and the Hebrews would travel so far into the south of Egypt, or did they simply travel downwards once they had left Northern Egypt? Either way, those are pretty testing journeys. Any idea where in Egypt the Pharoahs and majority of Hebrew slaves lived at this time? I guess most assume Cairo/Giza because of the Pyramids etc.

[stonedcommander]

the dictionary also says that the dead sea was also referred to as the sea...it has a map with the route of the israelites and according to it they did not go far south,they crossed at the almost uppermost,narrow section of the sea...looks like only a couple of miles wide.right below the bitter lakes.

[coolintruddle]

At that time the capital was Memphis,Upper Egypt(which is southern Egypt).There was a Nubian Dynasty around that time,although I'm not sure if the Exodus story dates to that exact time.I know it takes place about 150 years after the pyramids were built(although this doesn't jive historically).That's the pentateuch for ya.Once people live for hundreds of years,historic timelines go out the window.

[RJL738]

I am glad you are giving your opinoin about these issues.

[The8bitMan]

You make a good point pointing out that these people witnessed the miracles but still turned from God, and yet these were God's chosen.

[DARRBEV]

Falmers Almanac, LOL, awesome vid SC

[gorillamummy]

I really enjoyed your take on this one. Nice job. I have one interesting fact to add: All of the plagues visited upon Egypt were connected to various gods they worshiped. For example, the Sun (Amon-Ra), the Nile River (Hapi), frogs (the Egyptians worshipped a frog-headed goddess, Hekt), and finally the Pharaoh's son, who was himself considered a god. There's more but you can look it up.

[kdog78m]

godshiva, your right. My bad.

[TheRichDarkEarth]

5*. Boom.

[kdog78m]

forces the people to drink it with a mixture of water. Then some 3000 people are slain by their own family. This account is troubling to say the least.

In chapter 21, God makes known the rules for anyone buying a servant. This brings up a whole other set of problems. In verse 24, as in the whole chapter, one can see that it's an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth.

[kdog78m]

One thing I've always found interesting is the bit about the golden calf. It was Aaron who made the golden calf! Him being the son of Moses would lead you to believe he had a paticulary close relationship with, and an intimate knowledge of god. Yet it's he who melted the jewelry in the fire, making the golden calf.

Moses' reaction is shocking too. He breaks the sacred tablets that he just received for God! Continuing in his fit of anger he melts the calf down, grinds it to powder, and

[godshiva]

Aaron and Moses were brothers - I think. Not father / son

[kdog78m]

Your right. I messed up.

[fonna]

Yeah, Hollywood couldn't make the water have that effect in those days. So it closed up all at once.

The book is not like the movie in this case.;) This is a great series.

[intelligentfalling]

I enjoy this series but I kinda wanna see how people would rate them.

[perditiontheelder]

This is awesome. I'm glad you doing this.

[coolintruddle]

''Worse than the atheists today''?I want to hang in there with you on this,so please refrain from derogotory comments about atheists.On the jews complaining,we must remember,most of them had lived their whole lives as slaves so,as captive as they were,they had no knowledge on how to be free.I also find it interesting that it is stated ''no other gods'' instead of false gods.

[stonedcommander]

that is actually a compliment to atheists...not an insult...people today do not have the benefit of seeing god first hand so its understandable that some dont believe...the Hebrews saw and experienced gods power and still turned on him...thats what makes them bad.

[coolintruddle]

I see your point I know that if I saw a whole sea split down the middle I would probably take notice.But lets not forget,by this point god had given up on directly intervening.He used his agents(in this case Moses) to do his work for him.The people never actually saw god do anything,they saw Moses doing all the work and when all is said and done,Moses was just a man.

[stonedcommander]

yes,but that being true that they saw moses part the red sea,they still turned on him pretty quick...so fiercely that moses feared for his life...plus they may have seen the pharaoh's sorcerers do strange things...maybe to the slaves magic was magic,they couldn't even comprehend that one was mightier than the other.

[coolintruddle]

That's how I see it also,their ignorance turned to fear and all they ever saw moses do was pretty violent.I bet if god handed them a nice feast with lots of water after a couple of days they wouldn't be looking to stone anyone.

[coolintruddle]

To be fair,I should say this is all a thought exercise for me.Please don't confuse my willingness to take the story at face value as a belief that any of it happened.I am one of those who have actually read the bible from cover to cover.I still read it to this day and I have 4 copies from the '20's,'40's,'70's and a new one that is much like yours(cool maps and the like).I think it probably is the greatest story ever told,but I take it for that,a story.

[stonedcommander]

i understand,either way i appreciate your participation.

[fonna]

I like your style, SC.

No bells and whistles.

[stonedcommander]

thanks,i can only make 10 minute videos ,so i must rush.

[NightVisionPhantom]

If it were "Thou Shalt Have No False Gods Before Me", it would imply that there are other REAL gods out there... so I think "no other gods" might have worked better. Perhaps if it was stated "There are no gods but Me", it might be less vague.

[intelligentfalling]

I think its more of a conceptualization kinda thing. There weren't other gods but people believed there were or might be and so to them they were real.