Don't feed me this bullshit. I have traveled, and seen the poor. I spent two years doing community organization in Peru, but you and I both know the ideological bent of this man and his organization– the only way to get out of the slums is via markets, period.
"I've always thought that a mandatory form of civic service would help America alot. Imagine if college would be free for anyone who did four years of peace corp or ameri corp. Imagine how much it would help the world, america and the individual."
no need to explain... mandatory is in contrast to 'Freedom'
Sachs is a bad economist who made policy recommendations for countries transitioning to capitalism that have been disastrous and led to massive kleptocracy. Perhaps his advice isn't to be trusted.
Re: "Finding out that our society isn't what it appears to be." I too think that's the main point. We're SO ridiculously brainwashed in the US to think everyone else is unlucky or inferior or whatever. Turns out, MANY other societies are WAY WAY happier and more balanced than we are. I was telling some friends i thought all American youth should be required to spend at least a year abroad. A Brit jokingly but correctly asked if i really wanted to subject the rest of the world to that!
It's not about learning to appreciate what you have. It's about finding out that people are the same everywhere you go. Finding out that our society isn't what it appears to be.
I like how disconnected this is from nearly all of the responses to "Free Market and Morality." If you were to go to the parts of the world that produce our goods, I think the life changing experience would go farther than empathizing with the poor of the world and give an understanding of how our lifestyle rides on their backs.
There's no incentive for businesses to start production in America, unless they think that Americans would be willing to work for far less than minimum wage.
I've always thought that a mandatory form of civic service would help America alot. Imagine if college would be free for anyone who did four years of peace corp or ameri corp. Imagine how much it would help the world, america and the individual.
How would a civic service, i.e. peace corp/ameri corp, be "used to send americans off to war"? Some countries have mandatory civic services in return to all the things society has given them. Military is just one of the options. But if you do not like the word "mandatory" then how bout they pay off debt after you have been to school in return for these services. Look at a service like Teach for America by Wendy Kopp and see what a difference that program has made
well I don't believe there should be mandatory service even if this was not a draft,draft. But here is the thing. Our military is way overstretched.(which I think means we have too many foriegn interventions) the finance and political elite need a larger military and many want to attack Iran.Youtube an interview with the names Richard Stengal and John MCain. Check out how they talk. I urge you. They need a way to introduce it.
@iwiwla22 Most of those civic services offer full college reimbursement along with other incentives to join but seeing how you would actually have to do other stuff completely unrelated to "peace" and "spreading liberty abroad" I don't know if wise to re-institute a draft of any kind. Im only 21 but I know that after the Vietnam War a sharp fear of force militarization was instill into the American Public. Read some history, Americans protested bravely to have the draft removed. Why return it?
@CostlyChris "Most of those civic services..." exactly, kind of like the teach for America program that I mentioned that offers tuition reimbursement. I graduate this Fall with my masters in education and History and have joined such a debt forgiveness program for inner city schools with a charter school called KIPP, hope that answers your statement about "reading some history." I do not know if I ever used the term "spreading liberty abroad" or not but where did I ever state the draft needed
Regardless of who protested what, the people who ended the draft after the Vietnam war were NeoCons, such as Milton Friedman. Not on moral grounds, mind you, but because the resistance was so heavy that it was believed a Revolution could happen if it stayed in place. The military now is strictly voluntary, so there is a belief that the people in the service deserve whatever happens to them because they volunteered, even though the grunts still come from the poorest parts of
@iwiwla22........watch your mouth talking like that bitch....me and millions of others would fuck your world ALLLLL up if you try that!.....that kinda talk is how you start wars/revolutions.......(chuckle)and you dont want to be on THAT side of the fence TRUST me.....(you are plague to this planet by thinking that)
@iwiwla22 Sure, that sounds like a good idea. Maybe tie in some part-time civic duty with unemployment, as well. Maybe do what the Germans do, give the option of military conscription for a couple of years or civic duty for a couple of years. There's always work to be done!
@iwiwla22 I disagree. When it's required, it's resented. It's done for the wrong reasons. It's not "what can i do to help?", it's "what's in it for me?" See Penn Jillette's video, also posted by bigthink, on Mistrust Of The Government.
@qwexas Thanks for the Penn recommendation. I'm going to watch the rest of his series when I finish this post. I had already conceded in a previous post that mandatory was the wrong word, however I do believe that certain things need to be mandatory from the government. This was more of a quid pro quo thing that benefits all parties considered
For an interesting website on this topic, search for "80,000 hours" on Google.
gairabad 1 week ago
typical altruistic nonsense. what schmaltzy advice.
Tallaias 3 months ago
@Tallaias How so? Have you tried it?
gyniest 1 month ago
what a sanctimonious putz.....
why not advise kids to get a job, get off the dole of public educaiton or start a company, innovate and hire others.
Mrpinkesq 3 months ago
Fucking pundits, how do they work?
TheSH1N1GAM1 3 months ago
Kill yourself.
joshbpitts 4 months ago
Sachs wouldn't get his suit dirty with Sahelian dust if his career, which isn't a hell of a lot to speak about these days, depended on it.
Magenta408 5 months ago
yawn
joshtheegotist 6 months ago
please what is the song on the into/outro in this video?
themonster387 8 months ago
Don't feed me this bullshit. I have traveled, and seen the poor. I spent two years doing community organization in Peru, but you and I both know the ideological bent of this man and his organization– the only way to get out of the slums is via markets, period.
MacbookProWizard 11 months ago 2
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lol why would you dislike this video
MrTPollitt 1 year ago
lol why would you dislike this video
MrTPollitt 1 year ago
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influence people to do this on their own free will and I have little to no problem
slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
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influence people to do this on your own free will and I have little to no problem
slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
mandatory is a dangerous word.
slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
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"I've always thought that a mandatory form of civic service would help America alot. Imagine if college would be free for anyone who did four years of peace corp or ameri corp. Imagine how much it would help the world, america and the individual."
no need to explain... mandatory is in contrast to 'Freedom'
slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
@slowlybutfasholy
Its mandatory that you stop at a red light
Its mandatory that you pay taxes for public things
I'd argue that certain mandatory things preserve freedom, not prevent it
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slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
@TomJackson986
It's more than just a "liberal" think tank. It's Jewish.
ZOGcorp 1 year ago
Sachs is a bad economist who made policy recommendations for countries transitioning to capitalism that have been disastrous and led to massive kleptocracy. Perhaps his advice isn't to be trusted.
publicanimal 1 year ago
Yeh right Budha.
MrFalconford 1 year ago
This man's "big ideas" caused a lot of suffering in the former soviet nations.
Neoliberalization is not the answer.
IlyaKhleboyko 1 year ago
@IlyaKhleboyko
Yeah, that's what happens when you take economic "advice" from parasitic Jews like Jeffrey Sachs. ;-)
ZOGcorp 1 year ago
Re: "Finding out that our society isn't what it appears to be." I too think that's the main point. We're SO ridiculously brainwashed in the US to think everyone else is unlucky or inferior or whatever. Turns out, MANY other societies are WAY WAY happier and more balanced than we are. I was telling some friends i thought all American youth should be required to spend at least a year abroad. A Brit jokingly but correctly asked if i really wanted to subject the rest of the world to that!
red19bridge 2 years ago
It's not about learning to appreciate what you have. It's about finding out that people are the same everywhere you go. Finding out that our society isn't what it appears to be.
jasonqlwilliams 2 years ago
I agree with Mr. Jeffrey Sach, they would learn to appreciate what they have.
flacaarmani1 2 years ago
poor people smell funny
yuck!
Fuzzy192006 2 years ago
it is a good experience to see other parts of the world. but not if it is mandatory
tonylee1973 2 years ago
I like how disconnected this is from nearly all of the responses to "Free Market and Morality." If you were to go to the parts of the world that produce our goods, I think the life changing experience would go farther than empathizing with the poor of the world and give an understanding of how our lifestyle rides on their backs.
leelaloop 2 years ago
maybe we should start producing our own goods?
tonylee1973 2 years ago
There's no incentive for businesses to start production in America, unless they think that Americans would be willing to work for far less than minimum wage.
leelaloop 2 years ago
well said Jeffrey Sachs...
HueyPNewtonPanther 2 years ago
Harry Sachs.
swankrecords 2 years ago
indeed a very good msg. his books are worth reading too!
misjagful 2 years ago
i.e. get off your spoiled, fat, media-saturated asses and do something for the world.
i like this message.
a lot.
ipalindromei 3 years ago 27
@ipalindromei That's implying everyone cares about the world.
BuiikiKaesu69 11 months ago
@ipalindromei do it yourself o.O!
i know i will
JollSSteR 6 months ago
@ipalindromei
like what?
pufixas 3 months ago
"four years of peace corp"
I think you actually have to have some college education to enter the peace corp in the first place
andrewtheman19 3 years ago
Yeah you need a degree lol.
Trumpetz81 3 years ago
Well that is why you would join some service after graduation, not before.
iwiwla22 2 years ago
I've always thought that a mandatory form of civic service would help America alot. Imagine if college would be free for anyone who did four years of peace corp or ameri corp. Imagine how much it would help the world, america and the individual.
iwiwla22 3 years ago 31
they will use it to send americans off to war
tonylee1973 2 years ago
How would a civic service, i.e. peace corp/ameri corp, be "used to send americans off to war"? Some countries have mandatory civic services in return to all the things society has given them. Military is just one of the options. But if you do not like the word "mandatory" then how bout they pay off debt after you have been to school in return for these services. Look at a service like Teach for America by Wendy Kopp and see what a difference that program has made
iwiwla22 2 years ago
well I don't believe there should be mandatory service even if this was not a draft,draft. But here is the thing. Our military is way overstretched.(which I think means we have too many foriegn interventions) the finance and political elite need a larger military and many want to attack Iran.Youtube an interview with the names Richard Stengal and John MCain. Check out how they talk. I urge you. They need a way to introduce it.
tonylee1973 2 years ago
@iwiwla22 Most of those civic services offer full college reimbursement along with other incentives to join but seeing how you would actually have to do other stuff completely unrelated to "peace" and "spreading liberty abroad" I don't know if wise to re-institute a draft of any kind. Im only 21 but I know that after the Vietnam War a sharp fear of force militarization was instill into the American Public. Read some history, Americans protested bravely to have the draft removed. Why return it?
CostlyChris 1 year ago
@CostlyChris "Most of those civic services..." exactly, kind of like the teach for America program that I mentioned that offers tuition reimbursement. I graduate this Fall with my masters in education and History and have joined such a debt forgiveness program for inner city schools with a charter school called KIPP, hope that answers your statement about "reading some history." I do not know if I ever used the term "spreading liberty abroad" or not but where did I ever state the draft needed
iwiwla22 1 year ago
to be reinstated?
Regardless of who protested what, the people who ended the draft after the Vietnam war were NeoCons, such as Milton Friedman. Not on moral grounds, mind you, but because the resistance was so heavy that it was believed a Revolution could happen if it stayed in place. The military now is strictly voluntary, so there is a belief that the people in the service deserve whatever happens to them because they volunteered, even though the grunts still come from the poorest parts of
iwiwla22 1 year ago
@iwiwla22........watch your mouth talking like that bitch....me and millions of others would fuck your world ALLLLL up if you try that!.....that kinda talk is how you start wars/revolutions.......(chuckle)and you dont want to be on THAT side of the fence TRUST me.....(you are plague to this planet by thinking that)
slowlybutfasholy 1 year ago
@slowlybutfasholy
Do you think you could elaborate just a little bit about what you mean, because I am completely lost.
iwiwla22 1 year ago
@iwiwla22 Sure, that sounds like a good idea. Maybe tie in some part-time civic duty with unemployment, as well. Maybe do what the Germans do, give the option of military conscription for a couple of years or civic duty for a couple of years. There's always work to be done!
edmondsjc 1 year ago
@edmondsjc couldnt agree more
iwiwla22 1 year ago
@iwiwla22 a wonderful idea
Etcher 11 months ago
@iwiwla22 I disagree. When it's required, it's resented. It's done for the wrong reasons. It's not "what can i do to help?", it's "what's in it for me?" See Penn Jillette's video, also posted by bigthink, on Mistrust Of The Government.
qwexas 6 months ago
@qwexas Thanks for the Penn recommendation. I'm going to watch the rest of his series when I finish this post. I had already conceded in a previous post that mandatory was the wrong word, however I do believe that certain things need to be mandatory from the government. This was more of a quid pro quo thing that benefits all parties considered
iwiwla22 6 months ago
@iwiwla22 tempting idea, but mandatory dosnt sound good. having to do something can lead to not doing anything...
txtsxm 3 months ago