Heh, thanks, i'm well aware of the commuter and inter-city operations in the northeast. :) I've traveled on both diesel and electric between hoboken terminal and newark broad street in both directions.
What did you have to do to arrange a cabride like that? When I visited that pike, they seemed pretty unfriendly. A security guard wanted to chase me away from the highway overpass near the Page NGS.
its ashame from the begining beccause E60s where really sopost to go 120 mph but the trucks failed and the had to go a maxiom speed of 85 mph, they where good engines too they could pull long distance trains :\
It's not frowned upon as being un-American, it's just too expensive to electrify tens of thousands of miles of track and buy thousands of new electric locomotives. When the cost of replacing all of that infrastructure is less than paying the fuel bill, then the option to electrify will be seriously considered.
Yes planting support poles, stringing up cats, installing substations and what have you would cost a lots of money. However there are cases where overhead power exist and railroads are using diesel traction. The South Shore line for instance. Trains magazine did a story recently about freight trains sharing tracks on the NE corridor and all were using diesel. I know electic locos arent cheap but in the long run you will save in fuel and maintenance. Why not take advantage of this.
I've seen many diesels on the NEC, including passenger service, and this is recently, not years ago. Electrification does cost a chunk of change, however it allows for higher HP and higher speed loco's. The most powerful diesel in north america i believe is 6000 hp and they are rare. The common electric loco's in use today are 7000 HP and up and can reach speeds of 100-125 mph. Those E60's are only 6000 hp. Imagine an HHP8!!!
That is one of the main points of my original post, is that even where you have overhead power there is still use of diesel traction under those wires. I wonder how much it would cost to refurbish a E60 or a
E25B versus the cost of buying a new diesel. It makes me wonder whatever happen to good old common sense.
@ibook133 Both CDOT and MBTA use diesels on their NEC commuter runs due to the fact that their services predate the electrification of the line east of New Haven. MARC uses diesels strictly as a cost savings measure, but they do own some HHP-8's that are used during rush hours. Diesels are used a lot on electrified NJT trackage, usually on trains from Bay Head, the Raritan Valley line in the Newark area and on the Morris/Essex lines. These trains all run to Hoboken, they can't go into NYC.
The cost of electrification in the usa is prohibitive in a lot of cases because the lines needing electrification would need electrical infrastructure to support the electrified ROW, often across 50-1000 miles. NJ transit as an intermediate step has taken the action of purchasing the first dual mode cat/diesel passenger locomotive in anticipation of electrification taking over within 20 years.
Great video. How fast do these coal trains drive? Me is a german freight train driver. Some of our empty trains are allowed to run at 75 mph / 120 kmph
No detectors that I know of. Not sure of the frequency either, but there's not much to listen too since the only time they call is to have the switches at NGS lined correctly. This is a small operation with one trainset that makes 2-3 daily round-trips.
Sweet horn
jiggy588 1 month ago in playlist AMTRAK ELECTRICS
Heh, thanks, i'm well aware of the commuter and inter-city operations in the northeast. :) I've traveled on both diesel and electric between hoboken terminal and newark broad street in both directions.
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ibook133 1 year ago
Love the horn and the electric railroad. they're a step ahead of almost everyone else.
skinnyshit8888 1 year ago
Nice horn!
zozey1231 2 years ago
sniff sniff !!
i miss this engines in mexico :(
nice video!
Mmach1 2 years ago 3
What did you have to do to arrange a cabride like that? When I visited that pike, they seemed pretty unfriendly. A security guard wanted to chase me away from the highway overpass near the Page NGS.
milespost 3 years ago
its ashame from the begining beccause E60s where really sopost to go 120 mph but the trucks failed and the had to go a maxiom speed of 85 mph, they where good engines too they could pull long distance trains :\
bobafett7777 3 years ago
It's a damn shame that this is a common sight in Europe but here in the good ole USA, this is frowned as not being American!
Can you image if mainline railroads used overhead power how much less oil we would consume!
cygnusixion 3 years ago
It's not frowned upon as being un-American, it's just too expensive to electrify tens of thousands of miles of track and buy thousands of new electric locomotives. When the cost of replacing all of that infrastructure is less than paying the fuel bill, then the option to electrify will be seriously considered.
wn676 3 years ago
Yes planting support poles, stringing up cats, installing substations and what have you would cost a lots of money. However there are cases where overhead power exist and railroads are using diesel traction. The South Shore line for instance. Trains magazine did a story recently about freight trains sharing tracks on the NE corridor and all were using diesel. I know electic locos arent cheap but in the long run you will save in fuel and maintenance. Why not take advantage of this.
cygnusixion 3 years ago
I've seen many diesels on the NEC, including passenger service, and this is recently, not years ago. Electrification does cost a chunk of change, however it allows for higher HP and higher speed loco's. The most powerful diesel in north america i believe is 6000 hp and they are rare. The common electric loco's in use today are 7000 HP and up and can reach speeds of 100-125 mph. Those E60's are only 6000 hp. Imagine an HHP8!!!
ibook133 3 years ago
That is one of the main points of my original post, is that even where you have overhead power there is still use of diesel traction under those wires. I wonder how much it would cost to refurbish a E60 or a
E25B versus the cost of buying a new diesel. It makes me wonder whatever happen to good old common sense.
cygnusixion 3 years ago
@ibook133 Both CDOT and MBTA use diesels on their NEC commuter runs due to the fact that their services predate the electrification of the line east of New Haven. MARC uses diesels strictly as a cost savings measure, but they do own some HHP-8's that are used during rush hours. Diesels are used a lot on electrified NJT trackage, usually on trains from Bay Head, the Raritan Valley line in the Newark area and on the Morris/Essex lines. These trains all run to Hoboken, they can't go into NYC.
TheLastBrainLeft 1 year ago
The cost of electrification in the usa is prohibitive in a lot of cases because the lines needing electrification would need electrical infrastructure to support the electrified ROW, often across 50-1000 miles. NJ transit as an intermediate step has taken the action of purchasing the first dual mode cat/diesel passenger locomotive in anticipation of electrification taking over within 20 years.
ibook133 3 years ago
This is the future given the way the automobile has polluted our planet
TrainmasterCurt 3 years ago
How many HP are those?
ibook133 4 years ago
The ex-NdeM E60C-2 locomotive have 6000 HP.
anskaru89 2 years ago 4
Great video. How fast do these coal trains drive? Me is a german freight train driver. Some of our empty trains are allowed to run at 75 mph / 120 kmph
Siggi155 4 years ago
Thanks! The BMLP has a max speed of 45 mph, loaded and empty.
wn676 4 years ago
Electric freight locos deserve a lot more respect than what they've received thusfar in modern North American railroading.
pennsyr1 4 years ago
I miss Kaibeto.
haskellstoner 4 years ago
do many trains run on this line ive went up there tons of times and havnt seen one train!
sp9813 4 years ago
It's usually one trainset that does 2-3 roundtrips per day.
wn676 4 years ago
EX-NDEM E60C-2?? I LOVE NDEM¡¡¡
yourpageitsasheed 4 years ago
¡¡¡coincido contigo amigo!!!
uanamani 2 years ago
hey i drove right next to that track
UPTurner 4 years ago
what Radio Frequencies does this railroad use, and what do the Hotbox detectors on this railroad soundlike?
AZZ124567 4 years ago
No detectors that I know of. Not sure of the frequency either, but there's not much to listen too since the only time they call is to have the switches at NGS lined correctly. This is a small operation with one trainset that makes 2-3 daily round-trips.
wn676 4 years ago
i work in these engines in mexico
thanks a lot
kcsdem 4 years ago
Beautiful landscape.
nikdalex 4 years ago
Wow, totally sweet. Cab ride in an electric, now there's something that's REALLY rare for the US.
mafarnz 4 years ago 2
electric FREIGHT in the US is almost non-existent, and probably is restricted to this one operation.
JSimp140 4 years ago 2