Yep, god is the master of logic. He's the type of dude that creates day and night THEN the Sun. Because all that nonsense about the Sun giving us a day/night cycle is just silly.
your speaking of the cosmological concept.. The thing is venom you are very philosophical, and you develp philosphies on your own without realizing they already exist. Like the comprehension gulf argument, You were spot on when saying we have trouble developing an understanding of our universe. Our human brains have limited perception. There is a whole comprehension gulf argument that states, we can't use simple heuristics to explain the universe we must test them int he field.
@kalinda619 Well with all scientists being atheist not true but not far from the truth, I think about 98% are. But lets face it religion losses when a person pursues education through science and a lot of cases history, but the funniest reason people loss their religion is religion itselfs, because in the plain and board view doesn't seem "to" "crazy", but when you read the books within a religion a lot of people go this is some fucked up shit.
@Redeemedsinner17 Science definitely isn't a world view. It's an objective way of examining the world around us and determining what those examinations tell us.
However, Skepticism goes hand in hand with science and ultimately lead me to my disbelief in a deity and my world view of secular humanism.
@Redeemedsinner17 Wrong!, Science is not a world view, it is a method for finding out how things work. Science intends to remove personal opinion, thus it cannot be a world view.
you act as if no one has ever heard TAG arguments before. srsly why not just post a video of Craig instead putting yourself through the trouble of making them yourself?
VenomFangX im an atheist and i really respect the fact that you let everyone comment it shows open mindedness. Just keep on the work you are doing, even if i don't agree with the things you are saying i am all for freedom of speech.
@xReligionIsBad God is real and He loves you, He sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16), NOT TO CONDEMN YOU, BUT TO SAVE YOU (John 3:17), if you so choose, because YOU ARE ALREADY LOST (John3:18). Don't hate the one who loves you and stand on the side of the one who hates you (John 3:19-21). You're not lost because you continue to sin, you continue to sin because you're lost. Choose life - choose Jesus. It's a simple choice. Believe, trust and obey.
@Eric1251 Hell is basically the place of sepertion that people who reject God go to. It's a place outside of God's common grace and the things we all take for granted which he has given (His creation, relationships with others,love, etc). C.S. Lewis said the gates of hell are locked on the inside by the free choices of men and women. It's also a place where the things that people focus on (fame, sex, drugs, materialism, etc.) are absent. A place of frustration and deep regret.
there are various strategies to achieve the secularization of society. You can mock religious people so that thy feel ashamed of believing fantastic stories or in fantastic beings. Another is to educate them so that they alone reach the point where those stories stop making sense.
We all know it's easier to mock them than to educate them and a similar result is achieved. I personally prefer a combination of the two, with a slight variation on the mocking: I try not to use straw man arguments.
@tyomero bravo! I think a little more educating and a little less mocking is good for the person you're talking to because you don't want them to just shut down and think you're an asshole and think all other atheists are assholes.
one thing: the Christian God is a man in the sky. Only recently Christians have gradually disassociated from this type of God to a more abstract one, that is, inmaterial, immutable, etc. Nevertheless that's not what the Christian doctrine teaches.
Venomfang is actually great at making points against atheism. What he keeps coming back to, though, is the principle that if science does not have an explanation for a certain phenomena, then God is responsible for it. Well, that's your right, but if that's your case for God, then "God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance".
@JackMania77377 no he doesnt because all of his reasoning comes back to god must exisist because i exisist and so do other things. he completley ignores the point of the naturalistic world view, that is that the laws of the universe and the origins of species and indeed the universe can be demonstrated and are not supernatural in nature. they are fundamentally different and this is why atheists and deists or mystics cannot argue with eachother it would require each person to
@Eric1251 You might not go to Hell. There is still time left for you to come to the Lord. You don't know what tomorrow will bring; you might yet change your mind. As long as you have breath left in you, you can still come.
@Eric1251 "No I know I am not going to hell, because there is not a hell" That, my friend, is a positive statement. You didn't say that you "think" there is no Hell. You said you "know" there is no Hell. Since you know that for sure, and no one else seems to know it for certain, you owe it to the world to tell us your proof of that. If you can't, then the "truth" is, you're really just gambling your life on a hunch. Isn't that the real truth of the matter?
A person who even says, "I believe it's possible that God exists, but..." has enough faith to be saved. God honors faith, no matter how small. Little faith will grow if one will exercise it. Prayer is exercising faith and anybody can pray. Anyone who says they believe it is possible that God exists, and prays, has enough faith to be saved.
As atheists we dont claim we are the pinnacle of knowledge. Most people just happen to think of atheism to be a scholarly position due to the number of them in the field of science. And this didnt come about because people got smarter when they became atheists. After people actually examine beliefs and gain more knowledge, that pocket of ignorance gets smaller until they realize that they're an atheist. Im not smart cuz im an atheist. Im an atheist because i gained more knowledge.
@jbulletc Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools" - Proverbs 12:15 “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkened unto counsel is wise.”
Many a fool thinks he is wise. Instead of seeking wisdom from God, a fool follows his heart that cannot discern truth from lies nor good from evil -
@4GodSoLoves and the texts from other religions say that those who dont follow their god is foolish too and im pretty sure their religious texts dont impress you very much. They cant all be right but they can all be wrong. infact, theyre most likely all wrong.
@jbulletc In no other religion does the leader of that religion die so that his followers may be saved, and then return after death, demonstrating the eternal life we all can have. Christianity is the only religion in which love, including love for your enemies, is the central theme. In Christianity salvation is a free gift given to us by God. In all other religions you achieve salvation through your works or good thoughts.
But I have no problem in your believing in whatever...
@4GodSoLoves Actually the mythical egyptian god mithra died and resurrected after three days, had 12 disciples, was born of a virgin and saved the world. This god is older than christ and its description is in the book of the dead incase you think im lying. Why dont you believe that god? And Christianity isnt even the first to mention love as a theme. the analects from confucius speaks of love before the bible too. you should go with the evidence. not the religion.
@jbulletc Yeah yeah - you point to lies that these things came before the Gospel when they all cam after the fact of Christ's ministry, death and resurrection. Besides there is no faith older than the one taught to the children of Adam, taught to them by Adam who knew God from the beginning. Since this is true, why wouldn't the ancient world have known of the one true God and learned more and more of Him down through the ages and copied what they learned. Man has always know God.
@4GodSoLoves no, the point was the these things fits Jesus' description which indicates a fabrication of his life and miracle. And Christianity isnt the oldest faith either. Islam branches off from Christianity which branches from Judaism which branches from Zoroastrianism. Its not the first faith that existed dude. look into into. Its quite eye opening.
@jbulletc I didn't say that Christianity is the oldest faith - how could it be when you rightly pointed out that Judaism is older? But even before Judaism, people knew of the one true God. And within Judaism, even in it's early stages, the coming Messiah was spoken of and as Judaism grew more and more was revealed about Him. Now here's the most important part - even Satan knew of His coming and he is the father of lies and thereby the creator of all false religions - to turn away many.
@4GodSoLoves Other religions say the same thing man. That false religions will come to confuse you and that Christianity is the false one. if you go by a religious text, then youve made youre belief indistinguishable from other religions. but having evidence will make yours stand out. and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind.
@jbulletc Really? Which ones say that? Anyway, you seem to be looking for reasons to not believe - seek and ye shall find. Why not look for reasons to believe. He who does not what to know the truth will never find it. But I do have evidence - some that are open for all and one conclusive piece of evidence that cannot be revealed to you because it is self realizing. But the resurrection of Jesus Christ is all the evidence that can be given you until you put your faith in Him. Then...
@jbulletc ...then your faith will be rewarded by the evidence that will come by way of the Holy Spirit - then you will know - not think, not hope, but know - not only that God exists but also that He has saved you.
@4GodSoLoves well islam for starters. Plenty of others state that other religions will be false religions. I happen to think theyre all false. And your claim isnt evidence. just replace Jesus with Mithra and god with allah and it works just the same. Appeals to emotion and anecdotes arent evidence. And i wasnt looking to not believe. Im a p.k., and have a minor in theology and that knowledge led me to knowing that Christianity is a forgery. Do you have actual evidence?
@jbulletc Here's just a few well known and educated ex-atheists/agnostics that have come to Christianity: Michael Reiss – Dame Cicely Saunders – Conrad N. Hilton - E. F. Schumacher – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – Edith Stein –Peter Steele –John Lawson Stoddard – Lee Strobel – Lacey Sturm – Allen Tate – Evelyn Waugh – Simone Weil – Fay Weldon – A. N. Wilson – John C. Wright – Anthony Flew. Surely you don't believe they all came without evidence they felt they could trust?
@4GodSoLoves i dont know what that was supposed to prove. So those guys became christians. that proves christianity? I was a christian and then became an atheist. Does that prove atheism? And statistically more christians become atheists than atheists to christians. Christianity is on the decline. Islam and mormonism are fast growing. and if atheism was a religion then that would actually be the fastest growing religion in the world. do you have real evidence?
@jbulletc "i dont know what that was supposed to prove. So those guys became christians. that proves christianity?" You said earlier, "...but having evidence will make yours stand out. and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind." That is why I made the list, because that statement was just stupid, sorry, but it was. "And statistically more christians become atheists than atheists to christians." And how do you know this? Statistics? Who's statistics? And...
@4GodSoLoves Claiming that certain atheists became christian is called appeal to authority. its a fallacy. as for the statistics? just look up religion population percentages. this isnt a secret. Christianity has been on the decline for a while.
@jbulletc ...I will mirror your statement when you said: "So those guys became christians. that proves christianity?" and say, what does any so-called statistic prove?...that Christianity is wrong? You grasp at straws in the hope that you will find truth in your atheism. Why? Is your atheism that dear to your heart? Or is your fear of the possibility of God so strong (because you know His existence is indeed a possibility) that you have to talk yourself into believing He's not real?
@4GodSoLoves actually, my atheism isnt all that important to me. My life and loved ones are. Im not really afraid of god either. I dont have to talk myself into believing hes not there. I would believe in him or her if there was evidence. Im certainly not afraid of that. can i present my evidence now since you havent?
@jbulletc "I would believe in him or her if there was evidence." Good - then you do believe in God. That is good for you and your family that is so important in your life. Sorry, because I thought you said you didn't believe in God, but now I see that you are saying to do believe in God because you said you'd believe if there was any evidence - and since there is - you therefore do believe. That's good.
@jbulletc Sure you can replace Him with Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck too. But Jesus rose from the dead - that cannot be refuted logically. Where is the religion of Mithraism that you keep comparing to Christianity? Even though there are similarities between Christianity and Mithraism, it is up to the critics to prove that one borrowed from the other. But, considering that the writers of the New Testament were...
@4GodSoLoves Its not just similarities. Its direct forgeries. And historians already know who copied the other. its fairly obvious considering that mithra was worshiped by thousands way before the bible was ever written. and old testament references to Christ isnt sound evidence either because we already know the writers of the gospels were very well versed in the torah which is why they made jesus look like he fulfilled prophesy. can i provide evidence now?
@jbulletc "Its not just similarities. Its direct forgeries. And historians already know who copied the other." Wow! Just go to "CARM - Doesn't the religion of Mithra prove that Christianity is false?" You can keep saying what you are and I can do the same, so just check it out. It's so not as you claim - direct forgeries - there are so many differences. Zoroastrianism dates back to 800 to 600 BC. Judaism dates back to around 3000 BC. It's more likely if one borrowed, it was Mithra.
@4GodSoLoves Ive seen carm so many times already. Its stands at odds with mainstream historians and scientists on this issue. Its already a fact that zoroastrianism is a direct influence on the abrahamic religions. sorry but thats a done deal. now what christian offen say is you cant prove god isnt real. Thats somewhat true. you can actually disprove a god if it lists its properties which can be tested. Id like to ask you a question. When did Noahs flood approximately occur?
@jbulletc "Ive seen carm so many times already. Its stands at odds with mainstream historians and scientists on this issue." No, I'm afraid it doesn't at all, sorry. The sites you are going to might very well stand at odds with mainstream. If you read the article, you will see that. Also, you have to look at the differences of Zoroastrianism and Christianity to see that Zoroastrianism is Satanic in nature and is therefore a twisted copy of the Messianic story in the Judaism.
@4GodSoLoves According to the Jewish historian Josephus, Irish archbishop and chronologist James Ussher, Bible historians and most conservative Christian scholars, the Flood of Noahs time occurred between 2500 BC and 2300 BC. if the noah story is true then all the great pyramids shouldve been made within 100 years of the event. And the entire project would have to be done with a starting population of 8 people.so its impossible. Im going to bed now. I'll give you the last word tho.
@jbulletc You jbulletc should listen to 4GodSoLoves because 4GodSoLoves is telling you jbulletc the truth about Mithra and other statements. Judaism is the First religion ever since the time of Adam and Eve everybody knew that Jesus Christ/Yeshua HaMashiach was going to come read Genesis 3:15. Mithra and other pagan idol gods came after Adam and Eve. You jbulletc want evidence well here is some historical evidence of Herod the Great and Pontius Pilatus are real historical people at Jesus time.
@FascinatingVision that not evidence either. Spiderman comics mention actual places in new york and real people too but that doesnt mean spiderman is real. same can be said with jesus and the bible. of course they used real people in the story. the greeks did it with thier gods too. Sorry bud but judaism is not the first religion. Mithra osiris and horus are older gods than the bible. but like i said to the guy. im tired. you can private message me later if you want. bed time
@jbulletc "that not evidence either. Spiderman comics mention actual places in new york and real people too but that doesnt mean spiderman is real." Now you're just talking crap. You are grasping at straws, all white-knucked with your grip on your beloved atheism. Give it up - God loves you - why hate the one who wants to save you. Why do you persist on clinging to the one who hates you and condemns you, while despising the one who has provided a way of escape. Stop being so foolish.
@jbulletc "Mithra osiris and horus are older gods than the bible." Why can't you see what any child can see? No one came before Adam and Eve and they knew God who created them. They told their descendents all about Him - some of those descendents became the Jewish people, who carried on the understanding of the God who created their ancestors Adam and Eve. God spoke to these ancient Jews and the knowledge of God grew. There were none before them, but some may have borrowed from them.
@jbulletc I hope that you had a good sleep. I am glad that you used that spiderman comics mentioning actual places in New York because that means that it can really be in reverse. Judaism is the truth and Mithra and other pagan gods came from Judaism and after Adam and Eve. Besides Herod the Great, Pontius Pilatus & Herod II for historical evidence. There is Josephus writings that talk about Jesus, 10 Sources that talk about Tiberius including the Holy Bible. There is 40 Sources about Jesus.
@jbulletc There are so many differences. Here are just a few: Ahura-Mazda is not all powerful and is on a par with Angra-Mainyu, the evil spirit. In Christianity, God is all powerful and all good and Satan is evil and limited in power. Ahura Mazda is uncaring towards the human race, while the Christian God is approachable and loving. Christianity offers an answer to sin, while Zoroastrianism does not. In Zoroastrianism there is no ultimate price to pay for evil and no reward...
@jbulletc ...for good. There is no Christ figure in Zoroastrianism. Also , being born of of his father and mother is not a virgin birth, even if the spirit of god is imparted miraculously later. There is no evidence of a baptism in a river. The tempted in the wilderness story is so different that it can’t be compared to Christ’s temptation.
@4GodSoLoves lol. dude! horus was also baptized by anup in a river too. anup translates to john. And horus was tempted in the desert too!! Thats my last one i promise. haha. you may have the last word again. Im in bed for reals now. peace.
@jbulletc No, there is no found evidence of a baptism - only a river crossing. There is a so-called revelation from an angel on the banks of a river but no record of a baptism. Horus' temptation was not the same as Christ, there was no stone to bread or through yourself off any tower - just tempting to worship evil spirits and there is no indication that this took place in the wildness. So he...
@jbulletc Okay - you did a switch on me here - I thought we were talking about Mithra. Now it is Horus. Okay, Osiris is cut into pieces by Seth and scatters the pieces throughout the country. Osiris’ wife Isis transforms herself into a kite and flies around locating all the pieces, except his penis, which she has to create herself somehow, because fish had eaten it. She puts all the pieces back together and before giving Osiris eternal life, she has sex with...
@jbulletc Okay - you did a switch on me here - I thought we were talking about Mithra. Now it is Horus. Okay, Osiris is cut into pieces by Seth and scatters the pieces throughout the country. Osiris’ wife Isis transforms herself into a kite and flies around locating all the pieces, except his penis, which she has to create herself somehow, because fish had eaten it. She puts all the pieces back together and before giving Osiris eternal life, she has sex with...
@jbulletc ...this Frankensteinian creature and from that union gives birth to Horus. Great, if you want to compare that to the birth of Christ – please tell me how it is the same? Was this somehow a virgin birth? How did Isis change herself into a virgin? The story doesn’t say as far as I can tell. So, I don't know what else needs to be said abut this story - from this "beginning of Horus" I think the rest can be dismissed along with this story of Isis' Frankenstein monster story.
@4GodSoLoves Also this whole Horus/Osiris/Isis thing comes from Egyptian polytheism. Christianity is monotheistic. There are more differences with Hours vs Jesus than with Zoroastrianism. So many that it would be very hard to list them all in this forum. It is just bizarre to compare these two religions if one takes into consideration the differences. The same is true of Zoroastrianism, but this Horus thing is worse. You want to look at similarities, but look at the differences.
@jbulletc So now many atheists are associating themselves with Satanists. All of these so-called similarities to Jesus vs Myths is due to the admitted Satanist, Helena Blavatsky (1831-1891) founder of the Theosophical Society in 1875. She told her students in 1889 that the real reason for the T.S. was to prepare the world for the new world leader‘s (Antichrist’s) coming. She is...
@jbulletc ...time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity…but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestrial Light, ‘the Holy Ghost’ and ‘Satan’ at one and the same time.” The Secret Doctrine, page 539.
So, even though atheists claim to not believe in Satan either, it seems they would rather associate with him than with the Lord - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@4GodSoLoves BTW, this last quote of her's from "The Secret Doctrine, page 539 is the very blasphemy of the Holy Spirit that is the one unpardonable sin. And yet many atheists today will associate with Helena Blavatsky, and argue her points against the very Christ who has come to save them from the grasp of the Devil that Helena Blavatsky adored. Even though they claim they don't believe in him, still, they believe in her.
@4GodSoLoves No. Satan is equally as made up as god. and the similarities in the stories including 12 disciples and resurrecting on the third day should be a clear indicator that this was a tale passed on into jewish tradition which influenced the tale of jesus. by the way its impossible for adam and eve to be the oldest tale considering that billions of years happened before that which included single cell organisms. why not read up on it? its pretty cool.
@jbulletc ...Jews who shunned pagan philosophies and that the Old Testament has all of the themes found in Christianity, it is far more probable that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagan religions that wanted to emulate the success of Christianity. See: "CARM - Doesn't the religion of Mithra prove that Christianity is false?" There you will find a list of Old Testament references to Christ that were most likely copied by false religions - not the other way around.
@jbulletc "and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind." You've got to be kidding me? Many have come from atheism to Christianity by evidence, either by studying the scriptures or even by studying science. What are you saying? That you are the wisest man to ever live and that no one can come to the Lord by evidence since you haven't?
@jbulletc ...faith you care to test against one another. You come to understand that God really does exist, then go ahead, check into all of them if you wish and compare them to the Gospel of Christ and the story of redemption in Christ Jesus. Pray for God to lead you to the one true Savior and the right faith. If you are truly sincere, I have no doubts that you will come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is THE way, THE truth and THE life. For more see: evangelicaldotus
@Autumn6 I love Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX since 2009 or 2010 because Shawn is a Christian and a Jew. I love the Jews. I love Israel and I love the Jewish People. I am also a fan of Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX and I need to check out that debate with Cristina Rad if I can find it then again I might have already saw that debate. I am a Christian and I STAND with Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX and Israel.
It doesn't surprise me that there is more dislikes than likes, lol. More and more people are turning away from God. Keep up the good work VenomFangX, may our Lord have mercy on us all. The Bible says that people will say that good is bad and that bad is good. Blessings be upon unto you, much love bro.
@01269832268 NOT because more people Dislike this video than Like this video does NOT mean that what VenomFangX is saying is false. Some people Dislike this video just because they HATE VenomFangX. Some other people Dislike this video because they do NOT understand this video and some people Dislike this video because they are Atheists and they know that VenomFangX is telling the Truth. People who are turning away from God do NOT know God and are NOT Christians. Good is bad & Bad is good is Sin.
@FascinatingVision Atheists oftentimes literally spend all day on Youtube disliking Christian videos. It's downright scary. I've never actually liked the Like/Dislike bar, it is clearly a demonstration of argumentum ad populum, thus poisoning the well.
@Autumn6 I Agree with you Autumn6 when you Autumn6 said: "I've never actually liked the Like/Dislike bar, it is clearly a demonstration of argumentum ad populum, thus poisoning the well." There are some videos here on YouTube that are Lies like the video called: Documentary (The Deception of Christianity) uploaded by ChrisMccullers. That video deserved to be Flagged & Disliked because it is telling Lies about Christianity in which it is a Disrespect to our Founding Fathers who were Christians.
@Autumn6 Indoctrination was a part of my life until I actively searched for the truth. The truth being that the Bible was not written to be a book. The Bible is a collection of stories translated, re-written, and edited many times over by primitive people in a primitive time. The only difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of followers. Did you take your communion last Sunday?
@01269832268 It is fine for I just add or elaborated more on what you said about Atheists hating VenomFangX and Dislike VenomFangX's video. I love you too 01269832268.
Shawn, if we were created in the image of god, why would god allow us to do bad things? Whether we humans are just physical objects, or god's creation, why are there so many bad people in the world?
@rotflmaopmpqxyz FREE WILL people choose to be bad or be good. Why would God let bad things happen because he gave man the FREE WILL to be bad if he or she chooses...
@EmoBrettKeane Well EmoBrettKeane when it comes to Allah. Allah does NOT Exist for Allah is a Pagan Idol moon god called: Allah. Praying to Allah is the same thing as praying to a rock or a computer or gold item of some kind. Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX knows this. Islam is False. The Quran/Koran a.k.a. Al-Quran is False. The Hadith is False. The Islamic Sources and Islamic Commentaries are False. The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth from the Holy Bible is the Truth and every other religion is False.
@EmoBrettKeane When EmoBrettKeane it comes Allah you want me to prove my thought. Worshiping Allah is as worshiping Bel or Baal the lord of heaven because Allah is a Hybrid god. Bel found in Isaiah 46:1, Jeremiah 50:2 & 51:44. Baal found in 1 Kings 16:31 & 2 Kings 10:22. In the Hadith 5035 Satan converted to Islam so why would Satan become a Muslim if Islam is holy? In the Quran there is satanic verses in Surah 53:19, 20. In Sahih Muslim 6621 & 6622 we must listen to the Devil and sin for Allah.
so you dont think a universe can not exist like we live in with out the consciousness of a supernatural being to guide everything? it sounds like you are in a reasoning loop.
wow lemme just hop on your cock cause you made few circular and contradictory statements
funny how you of all people wanna point fingers on the materialism issue mr.look at my rich boy house and ridiculous batman costume you sir are a tool physics is a young science and still has room to evolve i find you to be the quite hilarious in your horribly malformed opinion tailored to anyone who does not posses the ability to form their own opinion or better yet form a perception of their world
@kurtwagnerx3 based upon facts and not your crazed ramblings and thank you in advance for blocking me as im sure at some point you will given your nature as a narcissist who cannot take any criticism even tho it might just help you form a conscious thought of your own that wasnt torn from the transcripts of such and such a televangelist leader you deem to be your flavor of the month
I don't know if I should like or hate your video...I must admit, you do say a few things that I agree with. But then, at the very end you fail by becoming that which you condemn as a hypocrite; simply by stating "You could become a Christian, confess that Jesus is Lord, and then you would be saved". At this point I face-palmed, really?!? Read Matthew 7:5.
@jazz0665 If Science is NOT something you Believe in its something that just is then Why haven't you answer my previous questions? The computer that I am typing on and the computer that you are typing on was made from materials that was made by God Almighty and I do NOT smoke drugs like Weed, Cigarettes or Cigars.
@DevoutAchristian Ok then if it is actually the air that I am seeing and NOT Dirt and other objects then can you explain that to me because it is NOT rain but maybe a third or fourth form of Air. We Christians do NOT believe that Jesus Christ died and stayed in the grave for we Christians believe that He Jesus Christ was Resurrected from the dead. Jesus Christ is ALIVE and He Jesus Christ is watching us both right now.
@FascinatingVision Okay, I'm done with the air thing since you just don't get it.
So can you prove that Jesus was resurrected and is watching us right now? If you say the Bible, then I want you to tell me whether he descended in Jerusalem or Bethany, because the two different books give contradicting accounts. That, among a plethora of other contradictions proves that the Bible is not the word of god, therefore that there is no good reason to believe Jesus is looking at us.
@DevoutAchristian ...stragglers, those in Israel who were too ill, too weak, or too young to protect themselves, perhaps even women and children. Until Joshua led the counter-attack, there must have been a terrible slaughter of innocent, feeble souls (Ex.17). This was the famous battle which Israel won because Aaron and Hur helped Moses hold up his rod when his arms grew tired.” -The Nations of the Bible: Amalekites John David Clark, Sr. - January, 1995
@DevoutAchristian You did NOT explain the third or fourth form of Air but lets move on. The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is a faith thing for us Christian through the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible accounts & even Gnosticism. Give me the verses for that Jerusalem or Bethany statement? Give me plethora in verses from the Holy Bible of the contradictions? The Good reason to believe in Jesus Christ is for the Love, Peace and Joy teachings. Give me Holy Bible verses that are contradictions?
@FascinatingVision I don't even know what you mean by third or fourth form of air, and I don't care. Debris, whatever is in it, that is proof of the air. When you breathe on a cold day, you can see it. When you stop breathing for too long, you die. I don't care about the whole air thing. Regardless, it makes no bearing on the fact that the effects of air is are visible than any god.
@DevoutAchristian I Agreed with you that we should move on from the third or fourth form of Air because that is what you wanted. You DevoutAchristian did NOT give me those Holy Bible verses that are contradictions so I will ask you again. Give me the verses for that Jerusalem or Bethany statement? Give me plethora in verses from the Holy Bible of the contradictions? Give me Holy Bible verses that are contradictions?
@DevoutAchristian You see, you don't know the Gospel, therefore you don't know what it is you are so against. It is your very own salvation that you are at war with and you don't even know it.
@4GodSoLoves Don't tell me what Is going on in my own head. I was a very devout Christian and it was the study of the "Gospel" that led me to conclude that it was a bunch of bullshit. You don't know that everything that you have been taught is the figment of a bunch of bronze/iron age men's imaginations.
@DevoutAchristian You are operating under a false assumption. God did not create you. Your parents did. God created only two people, Adam and Eve. All others did not exist until they were born. Once your parents gave you birth - you were blessed with life, and from age of accountability you were given the choice to sin or not. You sinned as all of us did. So you were lost to sin. But God has provided a way to escape sin and death -John 3:16. Accept it or not. It's your choice.
@DevoutAchristian "You don't know that everything that you have been taught is the figment of a bunch of bronze/iron age men's imaginations." Wrong! It is you who doesn't know. I discovered the Gospel of Christ is true, when I was saved through faith in Christ. I was given the Holy Spirit as a witness to the truth. God has given me the promised new nature that comes with His indwelling Spirit. So I know what you don't know - not only that God exists, but that He has saved me.
@4GodSoLoves yes he loves a happy sheep to pour money into his churches coffers i was one lost (as you are) but now am found i was blind(as you are) yet now i see i have opened my eyes to the truth and facts of the universe and let me tell you it is so verry freeing and there is so much more "magical" things to behold in science than could ever be imagined by your silly little book and its writers
@kurtwagnerx3 1Timothy 1: 1-The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2-Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
@DevoutAchristian I enjoy how this pathetic excuse for an apologist didn't even try to refute the Bible contradictions you cited.
They're trying to assert that God blessed you with life. However, they're apparently oblivious to the fact that this would still mean that he let your birth take place regardless of the knowledge you would suffer eternal torture. Don't let their disgusting words hurt you, you aren't born a sinner in rational people's eyes.
@Arkyne88 Well Arkyne88 the reason why I did NOT refute DevoutAchristian's Bible contradictions is because DevoutAchristian was WRONG & I wanted him to get out of it looking fairly smart. For example Arkyne88 when DevoutAchristian gave Matthew 27:28, Jesus gets a Scarlet robe; Mark 15:17 clothed him with Purple what is being said is that the color of the robe was a RED color or a Reddish color. There was some mistakes by DevoutAchristian but I did NOT want DevoutAchristian to look Stupid & Dumb.
@FascinatingVision Revelation 17:4 would appear to describe scarlet and purple as two different colors, as does most people who are not colorblind. But I'm not here to defend supposed contradictions in the Bible.
Thank you. Your poor apologist skills show again when you fail to mention anything else in my comment, looks like you know better than to try justifying your god's disgusting actions.
@Arkyne88 When Arkyne88 it comes to the Book of Revelation some of the things are Allegorical. The Purple & Scarlet colour in Revelation 17:4 signifies rulership for imperial Rome would bedecked its leaders in such fashionable elegance. Purple & Scarlet here are the colors of emperors from the time of Constantine. Revelation 17:4 said Purple AND Scarlet which means both a Bluish Red (Purple) & Bright Red (Scarlet). We are ALL Born in Sin if NOT you Arkyne88 would have Believe in God Almighty?
@Arkyne88 Yes believing that you Arkyne88 are NOT Born in Sin DOES mean that you Arkyne88 do NOT believe in God. In James 2:19 it says that the Devil believe in God/One God and he the Devil tremble. You do NOT believe in God because you said that we are NOT Born in Sin or so. In 1 John 1:8 & 1 John 1:10 shows that you do NOT believe in God Almighty but if you believe in God Almighty then you would NOT be an Atheist & you would know that we are ALL Born in Sin. Repent Arkyne88 in Jesus Christ.
@FascinatingVision "Yes believing that you Arkyne88 are NOT Born in Sin DOES mean that you Arkyne88 do NOT believe in God."
Show me where I denied this, you delusional scum. I just told you that choosing to believe I was not born into sin does not mean that I believe in your god. Your reading comprehension is terrible.
@Arkyne88 I did NOT Disagree with you Arkyne88 when you said: "Believing I am not born into sin does not mean I believe in God." I am NOT sure why you are now going Crazy on me. Repent Arkyne88 of your Sins in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of God and Get Baptize in the name of Jesus Christ the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Then Pray for the Holy Ghost/Comforter/Holy Spirit. You Atheists talk BAD things about us Christians and the Holy Bible but you Atheists do NOT even know us.
@FascinatingVision Then what was your point? Were you just agreeing with me or were you trying to correct me?
"You do NOT believe in God because you said that we are NOT Born in Sin or so."
You also like to put words in my mouth I see, typical lying scum. I said I don't believe we are born into sin, I never asserted that we were not, however.
@Arkyne88 Please Arkyne88 give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible that states what you said here: "The book that states that all atheists and nonbelievers should be put to death." Please do NOT go Crazy on me again because when you go Crazy you are Lying. I am a Christian and Christianity do NOT teach Christians to Kill Atheists and nonbelievers for that is Islam & the Quran/Koran a.k.a. Al-Quran and the Hadith that tell Muslims to Kill Atheists and Nonbelievers.
@Arkyne88 Give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible. I will NOT visit the third link down in your channel's description because you said it here so give it to me here. You are going Crazy on me because you are forgeting and lying and even confusing yourself so you are going Crazy on me. Please Arkyne88 give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible that states what you said here: "The book that states that all atheists and nonbelievers should be put to death."
@Arkyne88 You gave a statement here so answer me here. Why do I have to go to some channel. If the Holy Bible is a evil book of hatred and murder then so are you. Evil, Hatred and Murder does NOT exist in Atheism. Then you are NOT an Atheist if you believe in Evil, Hatred and Murder because you can NOT believe in Evil, Hatred and Murder if you are an Atheist. Evil, Hatred and Murder is of the Devil and Love, Mercy and Peace is of God Almighty.
"There are none so blind as those who have eyes; yet they refuse to see. M. Lamb
lambiziness 1 day ago
So dumb
NicolasMarois 2 days ago
Yep, god is the master of logic. He's the type of dude that creates day and night THEN the Sun. Because all that nonsense about the Sun giving us a day/night cycle is just silly.
lucksterduck 3 days ago
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1upguy0 6 days ago
your speaking of the cosmological concept.. The thing is venom you are very philosophical, and you develp philosphies on your own without realizing they already exist. Like the comprehension gulf argument, You were spot on when saying we have trouble developing an understanding of our universe. Our human brains have limited perception. There is a whole comprehension gulf argument that states, we can't use simple heuristics to explain the universe we must test them int he field.
playinballin2012 6 days ago
1+1=1
-Quantum Mechanics
atnorman369 1 week ago
also what you were talking about at the end is called nihilism - no predefined meaning of life. its not related to atheism.
sheperd09 1 week ago
generalizations about atheists and calling all scientists atheists.......huh
kalinda619 1 week ago
@kalinda619 Well with all scientists being atheist not true but not far from the truth, I think about 98% are. But lets face it religion losses when a person pursues education through science and a lot of cases history, but the funniest reason people loss their religion is religion itselfs, because in the plain and board view doesn't seem "to" "crazy", but when you read the books within a religion a lot of people go this is some fucked up shit.
TheSolitaryTraveller 5 days ago
Keep making videos, even if people don't actually listen.
RobThe3339 1 week ago
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tambermelon 1 week ago
oh i get it he appeals to peoples pride.
bobdylan4evr 1 week ago
militantly stupid...
bobdylan4evr 1 week ago
venom, atheism is not a world view.
sleach060689 1 week ago
@sleach060689 It's not :3
But science is, which goes hand in hand with Atheism or Secularism. (Fortunately)
:P btw I'm agnostic
Yay reason ^^
Redeemedsinner17 1 week ago
@Redeemedsinner17 Science definitely isn't a world view. It's an objective way of examining the world around us and determining what those examinations tell us.
However, Skepticism goes hand in hand with science and ultimately lead me to my disbelief in a deity and my world view of secular humanism.
sleach060689 1 week ago
@Redeemedsinner17 Wrong!, Science is not a world view, it is a method for finding out how things work. Science intends to remove personal opinion, thus it cannot be a world view.
tyomero 1 week ago
@Redeemedsinner17 Science is not a world-view.
In fact, being agnostic is technically not a world-view
A world view is a collection of beliefs, philosophies, etc.
Agnosticism is a statement of Knowledge:
Agnostic - Uncertain
Gnostic - 100% Certain
It is however is some context used to try and be a neutral stance between atheism and theism.
Science is an objective way of explaining/examining the natural world, universe and its processes.
BaneOfAzrael 4 days ago
Lol I love you, man. :)
scjason420 1 week ago
it's funny how the first 2mins are true
infernoboi92 1 week ago
you act as if no one has ever heard TAG arguments before. srsly why not just post a video of Craig instead putting yourself through the trouble of making them yourself?
CriminalBabies 1 week ago
You are taking the opinion of one man and labeling it with everyone else...god you're an idiot.
AlhambraCuterebra 1 week ago
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AlhambraCuterebra 1 week ago
VenomFangX im an atheist and i really respect the fact that you let everyone comment it shows open mindedness. Just keep on the work you are doing, even if i don't agree with the things you are saying i am all for freedom of speech.
TheUntrueFantasy 1 week ago
@xReligionIsBad God is real and He loves you, He sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16), NOT TO CONDEMN YOU, BUT TO SAVE YOU (John 3:17), if you so choose, because YOU ARE ALREADY LOST (John3:18). Don't hate the one who loves you and stand on the side of the one who hates you (John 3:19-21). You're not lost because you continue to sin, you continue to sin because you're lost. Choose life - choose Jesus. It's a simple choice. Believe, trust and obey.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
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4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
You want to speak about god go to godtube(dot)com you're no help here.
TasmaniaED 2 weeks ago
What are you doing dude? Make more videos! They're hilarious, you're a natural comedian.
MrEduardKhil 2 weeks ago
This guy is so full of his own shit. Is this really how Christians reason everything?
slaphappyretard 2 weeks ago
Are you some kind of emo creationist? You keep cutting yourself with Occam's razor.
XcYruS 2 weeks ago 2
@Eric1251 Hell is basically the place of sepertion that people who reject God go to. It's a place outside of God's common grace and the things we all take for granted which he has given (His creation, relationships with others,love, etc). C.S. Lewis said the gates of hell are locked on the inside by the free choices of men and women. It's also a place where the things that people focus on (fame, sex, drugs, materialism, etc.) are absent. A place of frustration and deep regret.
Shazoolo 2 weeks ago
@Shazoolo How can something be outside of the power and influence of an all-powerful being?
Nilxchaos 2 weeks ago
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gilbert4321 1 week ago
@Shazoolo Re read luke hell is a literal physical place
gilbert4321 1 week ago
@gilbert4321 Yes, Hell is a real literal place. I never said it wasn't.
Shazoolo 1 week ago
THIS ROCK HAS REASONABLE PRAISE JESUS!
V2Hovership 2 weeks ago
hahahaha, "the destruction of your world view", that was funny!
tyomero 2 weeks ago
that's true, we have no more significant value than any other existing thing in the universe, or universes. The universe doesn't owe you a purpose.
tyomero 2 weeks ago
there are various strategies to achieve the secularization of society. You can mock religious people so that thy feel ashamed of believing fantastic stories or in fantastic beings. Another is to educate them so that they alone reach the point where those stories stop making sense.
We all know it's easier to mock them than to educate them and a similar result is achieved. I personally prefer a combination of the two, with a slight variation on the mocking: I try not to use straw man arguments.
tyomero 2 weeks ago
@tyomero bravo! I think a little more educating and a little less mocking is good for the person you're talking to because you don't want them to just shut down and think you're an asshole and think all other atheists are assholes.
sleach060689 1 week ago
one thing: the Christian God is a man in the sky. Only recently Christians have gradually disassociated from this type of God to a more abstract one, that is, inmaterial, immutable, etc. Nevertheless that's not what the Christian doctrine teaches.
tyomero 2 weeks ago
The universe isn't governed by the laws of mathematics. Math is a way to approximate the universe.
aquamonkeyeg 2 weeks ago
Venomfang is actually great at making points against atheism. What he keeps coming back to, though, is the principle that if science does not have an explanation for a certain phenomena, then God is responsible for it. Well, that's your right, but if that's your case for God, then "God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance".
JackMania77377 2 weeks ago
@JackMania77377 no he doesnt because all of his reasoning comes back to god must exisist because i exisist and so do other things. he completley ignores the point of the naturalistic world view, that is that the laws of the universe and the origins of species and indeed the universe can be demonstrated and are not supernatural in nature. they are fundamentally different and this is why atheists and deists or mystics cannot argue with eachother it would require each person to
bobdylan4evr 1 week ago
@JackMania77377 alter how the percieve the universe
bobdylan4evr 1 week ago
Tell every pope, al qaeda, hitler, stalin, that guy who burned the quran, 99 percent of arabs and 80 percent of americans to calm down.
RandomDrone79 2 weeks ago
Wow, way to straw man every atheist in the world.
TheDrphil07 2 weeks ago
844 Dislikes = 844 People who are scared, confused, and suppressing the truth.
snowbunny420ysu 2 weeks ago
@Eric1251 You might not go to Hell. There is still time left for you to come to the Lord. You don't know what tomorrow will bring; you might yet change your mind. As long as you have breath left in you, you can still come.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves "You might not go to hell." No I know I am not going to hell, because there is not a hell
Eric1251 2 weeks ago
@Eric1251 "No I know I am not going to hell, because there is not a hell" That, my friend, is a positive statement. You didn't say that you "think" there is no Hell. You said you "know" there is no Hell. Since you know that for sure, and no one else seems to know it for certain, you owe it to the world to tell us your proof of that. If you can't, then the "truth" is, you're really just gambling your life on a hunch. Isn't that the real truth of the matter?
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves l do know that the concept of hell is illogical, l also know hell is a crazy idea thought up by goat herders..
onetime233 2 weeks ago
Your gay
TasmaniaED 2 weeks ago
A person who even says, "I believe it's possible that God exists, but..." has enough faith to be saved. God honors faith, no matter how small. Little faith will grow if one will exercise it. Prayer is exercising faith and anybody can pray. Anyone who says they believe it is possible that God exists, and prays, has enough faith to be saved.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
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Get off Youtube, ya filthy Jew.
TasmaniaED 2 weeks ago
I am simply baffled by your stupidity.
btw it would be funny if they showed this at reason rally
willem1196 2 weeks ago
As atheists we dont claim we are the pinnacle of knowledge. Most people just happen to think of atheism to be a scholarly position due to the number of them in the field of science. And this didnt come about because people got smarter when they became atheists. After people actually examine beliefs and gain more knowledge, that pocket of ignorance gets smaller until they realize that they're an atheist. Im not smart cuz im an atheist. Im an atheist because i gained more knowledge.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago 4
@jbulletc Romans 1:22 "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools" - Proverbs 12:15 “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkened unto counsel is wise.”
Many a fool thinks he is wise. Instead of seeking wisdom from God, a fool follows his heart that cannot discern truth from lies nor good from evil -
Access-Jesusdotcom
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves and the texts from other religions say that those who dont follow their god is foolish too and im pretty sure their religious texts dont impress you very much. They cant all be right but they can all be wrong. infact, theyre most likely all wrong.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc In no other religion does the leader of that religion die so that his followers may be saved, and then return after death, demonstrating the eternal life we all can have. Christianity is the only religion in which love, including love for your enemies, is the central theme. In Christianity salvation is a free gift given to us by God. In all other religions you achieve salvation through your works or good thoughts.
But I have no problem in your believing in whatever...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Actually the mythical egyptian god mithra died and resurrected after three days, had 12 disciples, was born of a virgin and saved the world. This god is older than christ and its description is in the book of the dead incase you think im lying. Why dont you believe that god? And Christianity isnt even the first to mention love as a theme. the analects from confucius speaks of love before the bible too. you should go with the evidence. not the religion.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc Yeah yeah - you point to lies that these things came before the Gospel when they all cam after the fact of Christ's ministry, death and resurrection. Besides there is no faith older than the one taught to the children of Adam, taught to them by Adam who knew God from the beginning. Since this is true, why wouldn't the ancient world have known of the one true God and learned more and more of Him down through the ages and copied what they learned. Man has always know God.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves no, the point was the these things fits Jesus' description which indicates a fabrication of his life and miracle. And Christianity isnt the oldest faith either. Islam branches off from Christianity which branches from Judaism which branches from Zoroastrianism. Its not the first faith that existed dude. look into into. Its quite eye opening.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc I didn't say that Christianity is the oldest faith - how could it be when you rightly pointed out that Judaism is older? But even before Judaism, people knew of the one true God. And within Judaism, even in it's early stages, the coming Messiah was spoken of and as Judaism grew more and more was revealed about Him. Now here's the most important part - even Satan knew of His coming and he is the father of lies and thereby the creator of all false religions - to turn away many.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Other religions say the same thing man. That false religions will come to confuse you and that Christianity is the false one. if you go by a religious text, then youve made youre belief indistinguishable from other religions. but having evidence will make yours stand out. and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc Really? Which ones say that? Anyway, you seem to be looking for reasons to not believe - seek and ye shall find. Why not look for reasons to believe. He who does not what to know the truth will never find it. But I do have evidence - some that are open for all and one conclusive piece of evidence that cannot be revealed to you because it is self realizing. But the resurrection of Jesus Christ is all the evidence that can be given you until you put your faith in Him. Then...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...then your faith will be rewarded by the evidence that will come by way of the Holy Spirit - then you will know - not think, not hope, but know - not only that God exists but also that He has saved you.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves well islam for starters. Plenty of others state that other religions will be false religions. I happen to think theyre all false. And your claim isnt evidence. just replace Jesus with Mithra and god with allah and it works just the same. Appeals to emotion and anecdotes arent evidence. And i wasnt looking to not believe. Im a p.k., and have a minor in theology and that knowledge led me to knowing that Christianity is a forgery. Do you have actual evidence?
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc Here's just a few well known and educated ex-atheists/agnostics that have come to Christianity: Michael Reiss – Dame Cicely Saunders – Conrad N. Hilton - E. F. Schumacher – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – Edith Stein –Peter Steele –John Lawson Stoddard – Lee Strobel – Lacey Sturm – Allen Tate – Evelyn Waugh – Simone Weil – Fay Weldon – A. N. Wilson – John C. Wright – Anthony Flew. Surely you don't believe they all came without evidence they felt they could trust?
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves i dont know what that was supposed to prove. So those guys became christians. that proves christianity? I was a christian and then became an atheist. Does that prove atheism? And statistically more christians become atheists than atheists to christians. Christianity is on the decline. Islam and mormonism are fast growing. and if atheism was a religion then that would actually be the fastest growing religion in the world. do you have real evidence?
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "i dont know what that was supposed to prove. So those guys became christians. that proves christianity?" You said earlier, "...but having evidence will make yours stand out. and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind." That is why I made the list, because that statement was just stupid, sorry, but it was. "And statistically more christians become atheists than atheists to christians." And how do you know this? Statistics? Who's statistics? And...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Claiming that certain atheists became christian is called appeal to authority. its a fallacy. as for the statistics? just look up religion population percentages. this isnt a secret. Christianity has been on the decline for a while.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...I will mirror your statement when you said: "So those guys became christians. that proves christianity?" and say, what does any so-called statistic prove?...that Christianity is wrong? You grasp at straws in the hope that you will find truth in your atheism. Why? Is your atheism that dear to your heart? Or is your fear of the possibility of God so strong (because you know His existence is indeed a possibility) that you have to talk yourself into believing He's not real?
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves actually, my atheism isnt all that important to me. My life and loved ones are. Im not really afraid of god either. I dont have to talk myself into believing hes not there. I would believe in him or her if there was evidence. Im certainly not afraid of that. can i present my evidence now since you havent?
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "I would believe in him or her if there was evidence." Good - then you do believe in God. That is good for you and your family that is so important in your life. Sorry, because I thought you said you didn't believe in God, but now I see that you are saying to do believe in God because you said you'd believe if there was any evidence - and since there is - you therefore do believe. That's good.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc Sure you can replace Him with Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck too. But Jesus rose from the dead - that cannot be refuted logically. Where is the religion of Mithraism that you keep comparing to Christianity? Even though there are similarities between Christianity and Mithraism, it is up to the critics to prove that one borrowed from the other. But, considering that the writers of the New Testament were...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Its not just similarities. Its direct forgeries. And historians already know who copied the other. its fairly obvious considering that mithra was worshiped by thousands way before the bible was ever written. and old testament references to Christ isnt sound evidence either because we already know the writers of the gospels were very well versed in the torah which is why they made jesus look like he fulfilled prophesy. can i provide evidence now?
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "Its not just similarities. Its direct forgeries. And historians already know who copied the other." Wow! Just go to "CARM - Doesn't the religion of Mithra prove that Christianity is false?" You can keep saying what you are and I can do the same, so just check it out. It's so not as you claim - direct forgeries - there are so many differences. Zoroastrianism dates back to 800 to 600 BC. Judaism dates back to around 3000 BC. It's more likely if one borrowed, it was Mithra.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Ive seen carm so many times already. Its stands at odds with mainstream historians and scientists on this issue. Its already a fact that zoroastrianism is a direct influence on the abrahamic religions. sorry but thats a done deal. now what christian offen say is you cant prove god isnt real. Thats somewhat true. you can actually disprove a god if it lists its properties which can be tested. Id like to ask you a question. When did Noahs flood approximately occur?
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "Ive seen carm so many times already. Its stands at odds with mainstream historians and scientists on this issue." No, I'm afraid it doesn't at all, sorry. The sites you are going to might very well stand at odds with mainstream. If you read the article, you will see that. Also, you have to look at the differences of Zoroastrianism and Christianity to see that Zoroastrianism is Satanic in nature and is therefore a twisted copy of the Messianic story in the Judaism.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
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@4GodSoLoves According to the Jewish historian Josephus, Irish archbishop and chronologist James Ussher, Bible historians and most conservative Christian scholars, the Flood of Noahs time occurred between 2500 BC and 2300 BC. if the noah story is true then all the great pyramids shouldve been made within 100 years of the event. And the entire project would have to be done with a starting population of 8 people.so its impossible. Im going to bed now. I'll give you the last word tho.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc You jbulletc should listen to 4GodSoLoves because 4GodSoLoves is telling you jbulletc the truth about Mithra and other statements. Judaism is the First religion ever since the time of Adam and Eve everybody knew that Jesus Christ/Yeshua HaMashiach was going to come read Genesis 3:15. Mithra and other pagan idol gods came after Adam and Eve. You jbulletc want evidence well here is some historical evidence of Herod the Great and Pontius Pilatus are real historical people at Jesus time.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision that not evidence either. Spiderman comics mention actual places in new york and real people too but that doesnt mean spiderman is real. same can be said with jesus and the bible. of course they used real people in the story. the greeks did it with thier gods too. Sorry bud but judaism is not the first religion. Mithra osiris and horus are older gods than the bible. but like i said to the guy. im tired. you can private message me later if you want. bed time
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "that not evidence either. Spiderman comics mention actual places in new york and real people too but that doesnt mean spiderman is real." Now you're just talking crap. You are grasping at straws, all white-knucked with your grip on your beloved atheism. Give it up - God loves you - why hate the one who wants to save you. Why do you persist on clinging to the one who hates you and condemns you, while despising the one who has provided a way of escape. Stop being so foolish.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "Mithra osiris and horus are older gods than the bible." Why can't you see what any child can see? No one came before Adam and Eve and they knew God who created them. They told their descendents all about Him - some of those descendents became the Jewish people, who carried on the understanding of the God who created their ancestors Adam and Eve. God spoke to these ancient Jews and the knowledge of God grew. There were none before them, but some may have borrowed from them.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc I hope that you had a good sleep. I am glad that you used that spiderman comics mentioning actual places in New York because that means that it can really be in reverse. Judaism is the truth and Mithra and other pagan gods came from Judaism and after Adam and Eve. Besides Herod the Great, Pontius Pilatus & Herod II for historical evidence. There is Josephus writings that talk about Jesus, 10 Sources that talk about Tiberius including the Holy Bible. There is 40 Sources about Jesus.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc There are so many differences. Here are just a few: Ahura-Mazda is not all powerful and is on a par with Angra-Mainyu, the evil spirit. In Christianity, God is all powerful and all good and Satan is evil and limited in power. Ahura Mazda is uncaring towards the human race, while the Christian God is approachable and loving. Christianity offers an answer to sin, while Zoroastrianism does not. In Zoroastrianism there is no ultimate price to pay for evil and no reward...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...for good. There is no Christ figure in Zoroastrianism. Also , being born of of his father and mother is not a virgin birth, even if the spirit of god is imparted miraculously later. There is no evidence of a baptism in a river. The tempted in the wilderness story is so different that it can’t be compared to Christ’s temptation.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves lol. dude! horus was also baptized by anup in a river too. anup translates to john. And horus was tempted in the desert too!! Thats my last one i promise. haha. you may have the last word again. Im in bed for reals now. peace.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc No, there is no found evidence of a baptism - only a river crossing. There is a so-called revelation from an angel on the banks of a river but no record of a baptism. Horus' temptation was not the same as Christ, there was no stone to bread or through yourself off any tower - just tempting to worship evil spirits and there is no indication that this took place in the wildness. So he...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...was tempted - isn't everyone who ever lived tempted?...especially Christians, by people like you, to give up the faith.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc Okay - you did a switch on me here - I thought we were talking about Mithra. Now it is Horus. Okay, Osiris is cut into pieces by Seth and scatters the pieces throughout the country. Osiris’ wife Isis transforms herself into a kite and flies around locating all the pieces, except his penis, which she has to create herself somehow, because fish had eaten it. She puts all the pieces back together and before giving Osiris eternal life, she has sex with...
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@jbulletc Okay - you did a switch on me here - I thought we were talking about Mithra. Now it is Horus. Okay, Osiris is cut into pieces by Seth and scatters the pieces throughout the country. Osiris’ wife Isis transforms herself into a kite and flies around locating all the pieces, except his penis, which she has to create herself somehow, because fish had eaten it. She puts all the pieces back together and before giving Osiris eternal life, she has sex with...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...this Frankensteinian creature and from that union gives birth to Horus. Great, if you want to compare that to the birth of Christ – please tell me how it is the same? Was this somehow a virgin birth? How did Isis change herself into a virgin? The story doesn’t say as far as I can tell. So, I don't know what else needs to be said abut this story - from this "beginning of Horus" I think the rest can be dismissed along with this story of Isis' Frankenstein monster story.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Also this whole Horus/Osiris/Isis thing comes from Egyptian polytheism. Christianity is monotheistic. There are more differences with Hours vs Jesus than with Zoroastrianism. So many that it would be very hard to list them all in this forum. It is just bizarre to compare these two religions if one takes into consideration the differences. The same is true of Zoroastrianism, but this Horus thing is worse. You want to look at similarities, but look at the differences.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc So now many atheists are associating themselves with Satanists. All of these so-called similarities to Jesus vs Myths is due to the admitted Satanist, Helena Blavatsky (1831-1891) founder of the Theosophical Society in 1875. She told her students in 1889 that the real reason for the T.S. was to prepare the world for the new world leader‘s (Antichrist’s) coming. She is...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...quoted thusly: “Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior.” -The Secret Doctrine, pages 171, 225, 255 (Volume II)
“It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God.” The Secret Doctrine, pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
“The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same...
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity…but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestrial Light, ‘the Holy Ghost’ and ‘Satan’ at one and the same time.” The Secret Doctrine, page 539.
So, even though atheists claim to not believe in Satan either, it seems they would rather associate with him than with the Lord - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves BTW, this last quote of her's from "The Secret Doctrine, page 539 is the very blasphemy of the Holy Spirit that is the one unpardonable sin. And yet many atheists today will associate with Helena Blavatsky, and argue her points against the very Christ who has come to save them from the grasp of the Devil that Helena Blavatsky adored. Even though they claim they don't believe in him, still, they believe in her.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves No. Satan is equally as made up as god. and the similarities in the stories including 12 disciples and resurrecting on the third day should be a clear indicator that this was a tale passed on into jewish tradition which influenced the tale of jesus. by the way its impossible for adam and eve to be the oldest tale considering that billions of years happened before that which included single cell organisms. why not read up on it? its pretty cool.
jbulletc 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...Jews who shunned pagan philosophies and that the Old Testament has all of the themes found in Christianity, it is far more probable that if any borrowing was done, it was done by the pagan religions that wanted to emulate the success of Christianity. See: "CARM - Doesn't the religion of Mithra prove that Christianity is false?" There you will find a list of Old Testament references to Christ that were most likely copied by false religions - not the other way around.
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc "and youd be the first to present it in the history of humankind." You've got to be kidding me? Many have come from atheism to Christianity by evidence, either by studying the scriptures or even by studying science. What are you saying? That you are the wisest man to ever live and that no one can come to the Lord by evidence since you haven't?
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
@jbulletc ...faith you care to test against one another. You come to understand that God really does exist, then go ahead, check into all of them if you wish and compare them to the Gospel of Christ and the story of redemption in Christ Jesus. Pray for God to lead you to the one true Savior and the right faith. If you are truly sincere, I have no doubts that you will come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is THE way, THE truth and THE life. For more see: evangelicaldotus
4GodSoLoves 2 weeks ago
I became a VenomFangX fan when he destroyed Cristina Rad in an online debate...
Autumn6 2 weeks ago
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@Autumn6 I love Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX since 2009 or 2010 because Shawn is a Christian and a Jew. I love the Jews. I love Israel and I love the Jewish People. I am also a fan of Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX and I need to check out that debate with Cristina Rad if I can find it then again I might have already saw that debate. I am a Christian and I STAND with Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX and Israel.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
This video would be an excellent teaching tool for students who what to practice learning how to spot logical fallacies.
YukonBloamie 2 weeks ago
It doesn't surprise me that there is more dislikes than likes, lol. More and more people are turning away from God. Keep up the good work VenomFangX, may our Lord have mercy on us all. The Bible says that people will say that good is bad and that bad is good. Blessings be upon unto you, much love bro.
01269832268 2 weeks ago
@01269832268 NOT because more people Dislike this video than Like this video does NOT mean that what VenomFangX is saying is false. Some people Dislike this video just because they HATE VenomFangX. Some other people Dislike this video because they do NOT understand this video and some people Dislike this video because they are Atheists and they know that VenomFangX is telling the Truth. People who are turning away from God do NOT know God and are NOT Christians. Good is bad & Bad is good is Sin.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Atheists oftentimes literally spend all day on Youtube disliking Christian videos. It's downright scary. I've never actually liked the Like/Dislike bar, it is clearly a demonstration of argumentum ad populum, thus poisoning the well.
Autumn6 2 weeks ago
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@Autumn6 I Agree with you Autumn6 when you Autumn6 said: "I've never actually liked the Like/Dislike bar, it is clearly a demonstration of argumentum ad populum, thus poisoning the well." There are some videos here on YouTube that are Lies like the video called: Documentary (The Deception of Christianity) uploaded by ChrisMccullers. That video deserved to be Flagged & Disliked because it is telling Lies about Christianity in which it is a Disrespect to our Founding Fathers who were Christians.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
@Autumn6 Indoctrination was a part of my life until I actively searched for the truth. The truth being that the Bible was not written to be a book. The Bible is a collection of stories translated, re-written, and edited many times over by primitive people in a primitive time. The only difference between a religion and a cult is the amount of followers. Did you take your communion last Sunday?
CosmicDragon206 2 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Maybe you misunderstood what I said? I hope I didn't offend you? I think I know what you meant, much love x
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@01269832268 It is fine for I just add or elaborated more on what you said about Atheists hating VenomFangX and Dislike VenomFangX's video. I love you too 01269832268.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
Shawn, if we were created in the image of god, why would god allow us to do bad things? Whether we humans are just physical objects, or god's creation, why are there so many bad people in the world?
rotflmaopmpqxyz 2 weeks ago
@rotflmaopmpqxyz FREE WILL people choose to be bad or be good. Why would God let bad things happen because he gave man the FREE WILL to be bad if he or she chooses...
lonnyonline 2 weeks ago
Shawn, what is your evidence for a theist creation apart from the bible?
and what is your evidence that Allah wasn't the one creating the Universe?
EmoBrettKeane 2 weeks ago
@EmoBrettKeane Well EmoBrettKeane when it comes to Allah. Allah does NOT Exist for Allah is a Pagan Idol moon god called: Allah. Praying to Allah is the same thing as praying to a rock or a computer or gold item of some kind. Shawn a.k.a. VenomFangX knows this. Islam is False. The Quran/Koran a.k.a. Al-Quran is False. The Hadith is False. The Islamic Sources and Islamic Commentaries are False. The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth from the Holy Bible is the Truth and every other religion is False.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision can you prove that, thought?
EmoBrettKeane 2 weeks ago
@EmoBrettKeane When EmoBrettKeane it comes Allah you want me to prove my thought. Worshiping Allah is as worshiping Bel or Baal the lord of heaven because Allah is a Hybrid god. Bel found in Isaiah 46:1, Jeremiah 50:2 & 51:44. Baal found in 1 Kings 16:31 & 2 Kings 10:22. In the Hadith 5035 Satan converted to Islam so why would Satan become a Muslim if Islam is holy? In the Quran there is satanic verses in Surah 53:19, 20. In Sahih Muslim 6621 & 6622 we must listen to the Devil and sin for Allah.
FascinatingVision 2 weeks ago
Why don't you come? Seriously. Come on down, bro.
DixieComicReturns 2 weeks ago
so you dont think a universe can not exist like we live in with out the consciousness of a supernatural being to guide everything? it sounds like you are in a reasoning loop.
1upguy0 3 weeks ago
Anyone else come here to laugh at this guy?
CaptainHarryBerry 3 weeks ago
wow lemme just hop on your cock cause you made few circular and contradictory statements
funny how you of all people wanna point fingers on the materialism issue mr.look at my rich boy house and ridiculous batman costume you sir are a tool physics is a young science and still has room to evolve i find you to be the quite hilarious in your horribly malformed opinion tailored to anyone who does not posses the ability to form their own opinion or better yet form a perception of their world
kurtwagnerx3 3 weeks ago
@kurtwagnerx3 based upon facts and not your crazed ramblings and thank you in advance for blocking me as im sure at some point you will given your nature as a narcissist who cannot take any criticism even tho it might just help you form a conscious thought of your own that wasnt torn from the transcripts of such and such a televangelist leader you deem to be your flavor of the month
kurtwagnerx3 3 weeks ago
VENOM!!! we all know u are a atheist wannebie...
evanlion64 3 weeks ago
I don't know if I should like or hate your video...I must admit, you do say a few things that I agree with. But then, at the very end you fail by becoming that which you condemn as a hypocrite; simply by stating "You could become a Christian, confess that Jesus is Lord, and then you would be saved". At this point I face-palmed, really?!? Read Matthew 7:5.
TheBlackPhilosophy 3 weeks ago
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@jazz0665 If Science is NOT something you Believe in its something that just is then Why haven't you answer my previous questions? The computer that I am typing on and the computer that you are typing on was made from materials that was made by God Almighty and I do NOT smoke drugs like Weed, Cigarettes or Cigars.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
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@DevoutAchristian Ok then if it is actually the air that I am seeing and NOT Dirt and other objects then can you explain that to me because it is NOT rain but maybe a third or fourth form of Air. We Christians do NOT believe that Jesus Christ died and stayed in the grave for we Christians believe that He Jesus Christ was Resurrected from the dead. Jesus Christ is ALIVE and He Jesus Christ is watching us both right now.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Okay, I'm done with the air thing since you just don't get it.
So can you prove that Jesus was resurrected and is watching us right now? If you say the Bible, then I want you to tell me whether he descended in Jerusalem or Bethany, because the two different books give contradicting accounts. That, among a plethora of other contradictions proves that the Bible is not the word of god, therefore that there is no good reason to believe Jesus is looking at us.
DevoutAchristian 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian ...stragglers, those in Israel who were too ill, too weak, or too young to protect themselves, perhaps even women and children. Until Joshua led the counter-attack, there must have been a terrible slaughter of innocent, feeble souls (Ex.17). This was the famous battle which Israel won because Aaron and Hur helped Moses hold up his rod when his arms grew tired.” -The Nations of the Bible: Amalekites John David Clark, Sr. - January, 1995
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves What does that have to do with anything?
DevoutAchristian 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian You did NOT explain the third or fourth form of Air but lets move on. The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is a faith thing for us Christian through the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible accounts & even Gnosticism. Give me the verses for that Jerusalem or Bethany statement? Give me plethora in verses from the Holy Bible of the contradictions? The Good reason to believe in Jesus Christ is for the Love, Peace and Joy teachings. Give me Holy Bible verses that are contradictions?
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision I don't even know what you mean by third or fourth form of air, and I don't care. Debris, whatever is in it, that is proof of the air. When you breathe on a cold day, you can see it. When you stop breathing for too long, you die. I don't care about the whole air thing. Regardless, it makes no bearing on the fact that the effects of air is are visible than any god.
DevoutAchristian 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian I Agreed with you that we should move on from the third or fourth form of Air because that is what you wanted. You DevoutAchristian did NOT give me those Holy Bible verses that are contradictions so I will ask you again. Give me the verses for that Jerusalem or Bethany statement? Give me plethora in verses from the Holy Bible of the contradictions? Give me Holy Bible verses that are contradictions?
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian You see, you don't know the Gospel, therefore you don't know what it is you are so against. It is your very own salvation that you are at war with and you don't even know it.
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves Don't tell me what Is going on in my own head. I was a very devout Christian and it was the study of the "Gospel" that led me to conclude that it was a bunch of bullshit. You don't know that everything that you have been taught is the figment of a bunch of bronze/iron age men's imaginations.
DevoutAchristian 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian You are operating under a false assumption. God did not create you. Your parents did. God created only two people, Adam and Eve. All others did not exist until they were born. Once your parents gave you birth - you were blessed with life, and from age of accountability you were given the choice to sin or not. You sinned as all of us did. So you were lost to sin. But God has provided a way to escape sin and death -John 3:16. Accept it or not. It's your choice.
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian "You don't know that everything that you have been taught is the figment of a bunch of bronze/iron age men's imaginations." Wrong! It is you who doesn't know. I discovered the Gospel of Christ is true, when I was saved through faith in Christ. I was given the Holy Spirit as a witness to the truth. God has given me the promised new nature that comes with His indwelling Spirit. So I know what you don't know - not only that God exists, but that He has saved me.
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves yes he loves a happy sheep to pour money into his churches coffers i was one lost (as you are) but now am found i was blind(as you are) yet now i see i have opened my eyes to the truth and facts of the universe and let me tell you it is so verry freeing and there is so much more "magical" things to behold in science than could ever be imagined by your silly little book and its writers
kurtwagnerx3 3 weeks ago
@kurtwagnerx3 1Timothy 1: 1-The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2-Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@4GodSoLoves That was 1Timothy 4:1.
4GodSoLoves 3 weeks ago
@DevoutAchristian I enjoy how this pathetic excuse for an apologist didn't even try to refute the Bible contradictions you cited.
They're trying to assert that God blessed you with life. However, they're apparently oblivious to the fact that this would still mean that he let your birth take place regardless of the knowledge you would suffer eternal torture. Don't let their disgusting words hurt you, you aren't born a sinner in rational people's eyes.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 Well Arkyne88 the reason why I did NOT refute DevoutAchristian's Bible contradictions is because DevoutAchristian was WRONG & I wanted him to get out of it looking fairly smart. For example Arkyne88 when DevoutAchristian gave Matthew 27:28, Jesus gets a Scarlet robe; Mark 15:17 clothed him with Purple what is being said is that the color of the robe was a RED color or a Reddish color. There was some mistakes by DevoutAchristian but I did NOT want DevoutAchristian to look Stupid & Dumb.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Revelation 17:4 would appear to describe scarlet and purple as two different colors, as does most people who are not colorblind. But I'm not here to defend supposed contradictions in the Bible.
Thank you. Your poor apologist skills show again when you fail to mention anything else in my comment, looks like you know better than to try justifying your god's disgusting actions.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 When Arkyne88 it comes to the Book of Revelation some of the things are Allegorical. The Purple & Scarlet colour in Revelation 17:4 signifies rulership for imperial Rome would bedecked its leaders in such fashionable elegance. Purple & Scarlet here are the colors of emperors from the time of Constantine. Revelation 17:4 said Purple AND Scarlet which means both a Bluish Red (Purple) & Bright Red (Scarlet). We are ALL Born in Sin if NOT you Arkyne88 would have Believe in God Almighty?
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Some of the things are allegorical? Is there any evidence that what you cited is allegorical?
"Revelation 17:4 said Purple AND Scarlet which means both a Bluish Red (Purple) & Bright Red (Scarlet)."
That's why I mentioned it, putz. The Bible seems to recognize the two colors as distinguishable. What is your point?
"We are ALL Born in Sin if NOT you Arkyne88 would have Believe in God Almighty?"
Believing I am not born into sin does not mean I believe in God.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 Yes believing that you Arkyne88 are NOT Born in Sin DOES mean that you Arkyne88 do NOT believe in God. In James 2:19 it says that the Devil believe in God/One God and he the Devil tremble. You do NOT believe in God because you said that we are NOT Born in Sin or so. In 1 John 1:8 & 1 John 1:10 shows that you do NOT believe in God Almighty but if you believe in God Almighty then you would NOT be an Atheist & you would know that we are ALL Born in Sin. Repent Arkyne88 in Jesus Christ.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision "Yes believing that you Arkyne88 are NOT Born in Sin DOES mean that you Arkyne88 do NOT believe in God."
Show me where I denied this, you delusional scum. I just told you that choosing to believe I was not born into sin does not mean that I believe in your god. Your reading comprehension is terrible.
"Repent Arkyne88 in Jesus Christ."
No.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 I did NOT Disagree with you Arkyne88 when you said: "Believing I am not born into sin does not mean I believe in God." I am NOT sure why you are now going Crazy on me. Repent Arkyne88 of your Sins in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of God and Get Baptize in the name of Jesus Christ the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Then Pray for the Holy Ghost/Comforter/Holy Spirit. You Atheists talk BAD things about us Christians and the Holy Bible but you Atheists do NOT even know us.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Then what was your point? Were you just agreeing with me or were you trying to correct me?
"You do NOT believe in God because you said that we are NOT Born in Sin or so."
You also like to put words in my mouth I see, typical lying scum. I said I don't believe we are born into sin, I never asserted that we were not, however.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision "You Atheists talk BAD things about us Christians and the Holy Bible but you Atheists do NOT even know us."
I know you're scum for defending that sickening book. The book that states that all atheists and nonbelievers should be put to death.
Don't bother saying you disagree with the "holy" book and your god's commands if that's what you plan on doing. I despise hypochristians as well.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 Please Arkyne88 give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible that states what you said here: "The book that states that all atheists and nonbelievers should be put to death." Please do NOT go Crazy on me again because when you go Crazy you are Lying. I am a Christian and Christianity do NOT teach Christians to Kill Atheists and nonbelievers for that is Islam & the Quran/Koran a.k.a. Al-Quran and the Hadith that tell Muslims to Kill Atheists and Nonbelievers.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision Visit the third link down in my channel's description.
Quit saying I'm going crazy you delusional lying scum.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 Give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible. I will NOT visit the third link down in your channel's description because you said it here so give it to me here. You are going Crazy on me because you are forgeting and lying and even confusing yourself so you are going Crazy on me. Please Arkyne88 give me the verse(s) from the Holy Bible that states what you said here: "The book that states that all atheists and nonbelievers should be put to death."
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago
@FascinatingVision You seem to not want to visit the page because you're aware that it exposes your evil book of hatred and murder.
You've lost. Leave me alone now.
Arkyne88 3 weeks ago
@Arkyne88 You gave a statement here so answer me here. Why do I have to go to some channel. If the Holy Bible is a evil book of hatred and murder then so are you. Evil, Hatred and Murder does NOT exist in Atheism. Then you are NOT an Atheist if you believe in Evil, Hatred and Murder because you can NOT believe in Evil, Hatred and Murder if you are an Atheist. Evil, Hatred and Murder is of the Devil and Love, Mercy and Peace is of God Almighty.
FascinatingVision 3 weeks ago