@abery76 I believe so in both cases. It would be illegal to strike them with the knee, but I don't think there's any rule against just putting the knee on their face.
@ApparentlyGirlsFart FYI by refering to you as a belowaveragecognitive ability individual i mean that you are a moron. At least read the wikipedia article "figure of speech".
@ApparentlyGirlsFart I give up. Since you seem to be a subnormal individual seemly unable to grasp simple concepts, i will spell it for you. "My statement was not the literal truth but a rethorical device." Meaning that i was making fun of it. AKA a joke. Period. Stop being an ass, cuz there are way too many on the internet already.
I like this guy's approach: he gives you the benefit of his honest experience (without being patronizing); he's courteous to his students & he loves to teach. If only all sensei/sifu were like this.
@LordZero666 As someone who practices and teaches Judo, I can confidently say that there is no chance you learned that on the first day, or any armbar for that matter.
@ApparentlyGirlsFart As someone who practices Judo since childhood and has achieved a nidan grade, i must say that someone should teach you the concept of figurative speech. While is not my speciality, as a scientist, Biology PhD, I will try my hardest to guide you in the harsh road of proper lenguage.
@LordZero666 The fact that you had to ask if that technique was Judo or not, despite it being said in the video, makes me doubt your ability as a Judoka and PhD.
That looks like something you could apply from Butterfly Guard, or even from the Clinch while pulling Guard from Over/Under. Interesting hold! Very nice.
Love all your videos - maybe train knee on opponents shoulder/collar bone when drilling in class instead of "mean" way. I imagine in competition the knee naturally wants to find the head...if you were using this for self defense that knee on face could have been kneeing to the head...
@Cal1177 You *could* use it in a Judo comp, but doing is from the setup being shown would be foolish, because if you have a side mount, the osaekomi clock is already ticking and you've got a victory by ippon coming. Just hold the pin! Seems like a good technique/set-up in general though.
That's the exact mentality that drove me away from Judo.. "just hold the pin" or try stalemate a position until the ref saves you, it lacks reality way too much and especially with the new tournament rules where you cant even tackle the legs. I did Judo for 4 years and it wasn't wasted time because it's an amazing art, but the tournament rules make it absolute BS.
@4c00h People whine a lot about tournament rules in Judo, but they're really not a problem if you actually come to play Judo. The only thing I wish they'd do is allow more time for groundwork (or give people a penalty for stalling for standups). Grabbing the legs (which you can still do as a second move) was taken out because of people using it as a stall tactic. There's also nothing wrong with a pin being a win condition. If you sit under a pin in real life, you'd be eating strikes.
I'm sorry but Judo has become like soccer, too many rules to ruin an otherwise excellent sport. If you look at the psychological impact of Judo on automatic reflexes you will realise a Judoka will automatically hold both his lapels when someone goes for his back instead of trying to roll to counter the attack. In a real life situation as you suggest, we act upon what we've practiced mostly, and if you hold your shirt while someone's got your back you're in for a lot of trouble.
@4c00h Maybe that's how you and your club played, but that's all you can speak for. Tournament judo is different from rolling in your club. In most places I've been, rolling is treated pretty much like BJJ but rougher and less technical. Also, in a "real life situation" I'm not too worried about people "taking my back" anyways. Lol, give me a break (or stop picking fights outside bjj gyms).
I gave you the real life example because you mentioned it for sitting under a pin 'eating strikes', same concept if you end up with someone on your back, you'll be once again 'eating strikes'. I cant say we played in our Judo dojo since we were very tournament oriented it was very rough and as you mentioned less technique for some things and it does make you very strong but after starting BJJ and realizing I could defeat brown/black belts in randori I started to look at Judo differently
I should specify newaza randori - and yes tapping a black belt 5 times in three minutes and seeing him becoming frustrated and attacking more aggressively did re-assure me it wasn't just another black belt playing around with me like they do in BJJ effortlessly.
I always knew it as "pomission". Its called this because its a submission that can only be gotten from that 1 position where they leave their arm out. I find it can be quite effective as not many people know what to do, don't even realize your setting up a sub. And the "mean" way is the only way to go, hard to drill though because you don't want to be one of them guy's who wrecks people in training.
There're a LOT of extra details for ude-gatame to work that is missing in almost EVERY SINGLE demonstration of the technique. The position of the legs is not the most important thing for ude-gatame at all. It is all about how you control the arm. I also dismissed this technique as a "Hollywood" move, but then a visiting Japanese sensei demonstrated it to me at Mehdi Judo school here in Rio and I tapped so fast, and it hurt so much that I became a believer. Search for Okano Ude-Gatame on youtube
This is the first time I watched a video of a technique and was able to use it in class without practice. Trust me when I say this technique is money! Thanks for posting Stephen.
One of Isao Okano's nasty moves. Not "His" per say, but if you left your arm out and had I split second brain fart, it was ova!!! He got it from any angle too.
Are all Irish people good at "dirty" Jiu-Jitsu? I have this Irish instructor who is a beast at dirty chokes and cranks. I hope he doesn't see this video, I guarantee you I'll be eating his knee soon
Good stuff !! Keep up the good work !! Maybe you could share a "effective triangle choke escape" for when things got wrong and you get locked up good... I've been having a har time trying to fing an effective high percentage escape/counter!!
I like this one. As a Krav Maga practitioner I enjoy the knee on the face part of it since it's something I would do anyway. :p I really like your video's and have only come across a few that wouldn't work for me (because I would get punched in the face). Thanks for the video's. I also downloaded the ebook and will read it soon.
I liked this lesson alot. Not only did you show me a cool technique you also showed how at one point you were really cocky and eventually grew into humbility. Not sure if that's a real word but it works.
@96ammo Remember to give the guy warning before you go snapping all his shit up, hopefully he'll be smart and give up, if not do what you have to. lol
you´re doing a great job with your vids!!
I´ve watched a few till now - like the way you explain and the way you show... thank you for that!
You definately have a new subscriber here
peace, greets and blessings
Jimpancee 4 days ago
would it be legal to place ur knee on ur opponent's face in MMA rule, or BJJ tournament rules??
abery76 1 week ago
@abery76 I believe so in both cases. It would be illegal to strike them with the knee, but I don't think there's any rule against just putting the knee on their face.
BradyKnight 4 days ago
Awesome video, thanks!
Skirlippa 1 week ago
3 people experienced an arm crush
RockofCimmeria 1 week ago
is that the guy from infightingmma?
ThOutRider2 1 week ago
Good video, I like it!
RobbieStJean 1 week ago
@ApparentlyGirlsFart FYI by refering to you as a belowaveragecognitive ability individual i mean that you are a moron. At least read the wikipedia article "figure of speech".
LordZero666 2 weeks ago
@ApparentlyGirlsFart I give up. Since you seem to be a subnormal individual seemly unable to grasp simple concepts, i will spell it for you. "My statement was not the literal truth but a rethorical device." Meaning that i was making fun of it. AKA a joke. Period. Stop being an ass, cuz there are way too many on the internet already.
LordZero666 2 weeks ago
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I like this guy's approach: he gives you the benefit of his honest experience (without being patronizing); he's courteous to his students & he loves to teach. If only all sensei/sifu were like this.
AManofSorrows 2 weeks ago
Isnt that judo ? -_- like the thing they teach you in the first day.
LordZero666 3 weeks ago
@LordZero666 As someone who practices and teaches Judo, I can confidently say that there is no chance you learned that on the first day, or any armbar for that matter.
ApparentlyGirlsFart 2 weeks ago
@ApparentlyGirlsFart As someone who practices Judo since childhood and has achieved a nidan grade, i must say that someone should teach you the concept of figurative speech. While is not my speciality, as a scientist, Biology PhD, I will try my hardest to guide you in the harsh road of proper lenguage.
LordZero666 2 weeks ago
@LordZero666 The fact that you had to ask if that technique was Judo or not, despite it being said in the video, makes me doubt your ability as a Judoka and PhD.
ApparentlyGirlsFart 2 weeks ago
That looks like something you could apply from Butterfly Guard, or even from the Clinch while pulling Guard from Over/Under. Interesting hold! Very nice.
WingedRegent 3 weeks ago
Watched a couple of your vids. Nicely done work.
pmgruhn 3 weeks ago
they way you applied resembles old school catch in a way
kaindrg 3 weeks ago
Almost every armbar I learned in judo has you turn the face away with your leg or knee. other than the ones that don't use legs of course.
rokman5000 1 month ago
i woudl think is easier the first way because people usually turn their head naturally to the left.
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
is htis not going to work.. it clearly works... i am still watching hte video so far
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
I love the simplicity of this move. Thanks Stephan!
lclopez178 1 month ago
Love all your videos - maybe train knee on opponents shoulder/collar bone when drilling in class instead of "mean" way. I imagine in competition the knee naturally wants to find the head...if you were using this for self defense that knee on face could have been kneeing to the head...
MiriamKoempel 1 month ago
Would I be able to use this in judo competition?
Cal1177 1 month ago
@Cal1177 I think not. (Not sure)
GurMick 1 month ago
@Cal1177 It is legal on the ground but the nice version :) So don't put your knee on the opponents face..
ArK50 1 month ago
@ArK50 Dang, that was my favourite part. :) Thanks for the info, 'preciate it. Why do judokas have to be so polite? :p
Cal1177 1 month ago 2
@Cal1177 No worries ^___^
ArK50 1 month ago
@Cal1177 You *could* use it in a Judo comp, but doing is from the setup being shown would be foolish, because if you have a side mount, the osaekomi clock is already ticking and you've got a victory by ippon coming. Just hold the pin! Seems like a good technique/set-up in general though.
maofas 2 weeks ago
@maofas
That's the exact mentality that drove me away from Judo.. "just hold the pin" or try stalemate a position until the ref saves you, it lacks reality way too much and especially with the new tournament rules where you cant even tackle the legs. I did Judo for 4 years and it wasn't wasted time because it's an amazing art, but the tournament rules make it absolute BS.
4c00h 1 week ago
@4c00h People whine a lot about tournament rules in Judo, but they're really not a problem if you actually come to play Judo. The only thing I wish they'd do is allow more time for groundwork (or give people a penalty for stalling for standups). Grabbing the legs (which you can still do as a second move) was taken out because of people using it as a stall tactic. There's also nothing wrong with a pin being a win condition. If you sit under a pin in real life, you'd be eating strikes.
maofas 1 week ago
@maofas
I'm sorry but Judo has become like soccer, too many rules to ruin an otherwise excellent sport. If you look at the psychological impact of Judo on automatic reflexes you will realise a Judoka will automatically hold both his lapels when someone goes for his back instead of trying to roll to counter the attack. In a real life situation as you suggest, we act upon what we've practiced mostly, and if you hold your shirt while someone's got your back you're in for a lot of trouble.
4c00h 1 week ago
@4c00h Maybe that's how you and your club played, but that's all you can speak for. Tournament judo is different from rolling in your club. In most places I've been, rolling is treated pretty much like BJJ but rougher and less technical. Also, in a "real life situation" I'm not too worried about people "taking my back" anyways. Lol, give me a break (or stop picking fights outside bjj gyms).
maofas 1 week ago
@maofas
I gave you the real life example because you mentioned it for sitting under a pin 'eating strikes', same concept if you end up with someone on your back, you'll be once again 'eating strikes'. I cant say we played in our Judo dojo since we were very tournament oriented it was very rough and as you mentioned less technique for some things and it does make you very strong but after starting BJJ and realizing I could defeat brown/black belts in randori I started to look at Judo differently
4c00h 1 week ago
@maofas
I should specify newaza randori - and yes tapping a black belt 5 times in three minutes and seeing him becoming frustrated and attacking more aggressively did re-assure me it wasn't just another black belt playing around with me like they do in BJJ effortlessly.
4c00h 1 week ago
I always knew it as "pomission". Its called this because its a submission that can only be gotten from that 1 position where they leave their arm out. I find it can be quite effective as not many people know what to do, don't even realize your setting up a sub. And the "mean" way is the only way to go, hard to drill though because you don't want to be one of them guy's who wrecks people in training.
Chewabacca 1 month ago
There're a LOT of extra details for ude-gatame to work that is missing in almost EVERY SINGLE demonstration of the technique. The position of the legs is not the most important thing for ude-gatame at all. It is all about how you control the arm. I also dismissed this technique as a "Hollywood" move, but then a visiting Japanese sensei demonstrated it to me at Mehdi Judo school here in Rio and I tapped so fast, and it hurt so much that I became a believer. Search for Okano Ude-Gatame on youtube
loudenvier 1 month ago
This technique here in Brazil is named "Violino" or in english something like "Violin"
We practice this technique in many ways, in the mount, side control, and others.
ricardozych 1 month ago
@ricardozych I'm doing jiu-jitsu since 1994 and I never heard anyone calling it here in Rio as Violino... :-) Maybe it is some localized name...
loudenvier 1 month ago
spent a lot of time and energy for the term "research and development"
sebbb888 1 month ago
I start this technique from butterfly guard and end it this way regularly. Easy Jiu Jitsu is the best Jiu Jitsu.
CoachRangel 1 month ago
This is the first time I watched a video of a technique and was able to use it in class without practice. Trust me when I say this technique is money! Thanks for posting Stephen.
snamone 1 month ago
Not to mention Okano got it so fast he didn't need to mess with your head. Not that Judo allowed for hands to the face anyway.
KatameDo 1 month ago
In addition. Okano got it so quick he didn't need to even mess with your head. Ahhh, love me some good Ne Waza!!!!
Keep em coming!!!!!!
KatameDo 1 month ago
One of Isao Okano's nasty moves. Not "His" per say, but if you left your arm out and had I split second brain fart, it was ova!!! He got it from any angle too.
KatameDo 1 month ago
Marcelo does this a lot, often from butterfly guard, but he does this from the top as well.
BoredMedic 1 month ago
Great vid Stephan!
I was wondering could you show the same technique, but from guard? Thanks!
8mandoo 1 month ago
Are all Irish people good at "dirty" Jiu-Jitsu? I have this Irish instructor who is a beast at dirty chokes and cranks. I hope he doesn't see this video, I guarantee you I'll be eating his knee soon
NepolianZeeBean 1 month ago
Awesome move, and the moral of the story was even better!! thanks for sharing!!
EvanChaim 1 month ago
You should upload a video of you in a tournament, that'd be pretty awsome.
WatchingStuffOnTube 1 month ago
thank you grapplearts. I bow down.
ecnerwalgnay 1 month ago
Stephan,as always you help a lot
MrSidemount69 1 month ago
Works quite well, usually you never learn this in BJJ.
OVERCAPITALIZE 1 month ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE I've seen it taught more often in Judo than BJJ, but YMMV
gregorde 1 month ago
What other positions/situations is this move useful from? I've seen it used from closed guard, but that's the only other one I know of.
BradyKnight 1 month ago
never seen that one before but looks like a nasty move!
eyejab 1 month ago
The armbar's cool and all, but from 4:24 on is where the gold really is.
senfoong 1 month ago
I like that version. I never turned the face away like that before when I did this arm bar. Going to try that. Thanks!
ACTcombat1 1 month ago
Its great and it works. KFM uses it a lot, this and a few variations. Thanks
23Rexmagnum23 1 month ago
Re: Google - It's not a small percentage, it's like 20% (think it was 20, but high none the less) and it's compulsory...
BetterThanYo 1 month ago
I just don't understand how these videos can be so good and have such little views :O
DJFilmsCorp 1 month ago
haha, really enjoyed this vid, great story and great technique
anyone got the name of the submission?
cazz3000 1 month ago
@cazz3000 In Judo? Ude hishigi ude gatame.
brottarnacke 1 month ago
Good stuff !! Keep up the good work !! Maybe you could share a "effective triangle choke escape" for when things got wrong and you get locked up good... I've been having a har time trying to fing an effective high percentage escape/counter!!
mmask8ter 1 month ago
Painful subs are the only subs :)
mylittledancer 1 month ago
nice move, i am a judoka myself, we use that move quite abit =]
and2dude 1 month ago
I like this one. As a Krav Maga practitioner I enjoy the knee on the face part of it since it's something I would do anyway. :p I really like your video's and have only come across a few that wouldn't work for me (because I would get punched in the face). Thanks for the video's. I also downloaded the ebook and will read it soon.
dazzelya 1 month ago
I'll try the nicer way first.
LeinonenHannu 1 month ago
i like this move, but i think that knee to the head would make me look like a douche
josh1212121 1 month ago
Another Awesome vid. Cheers lads.
Howyamossy 1 month ago
Thank you, great technique.
Too bad you aren't from Austria, I would love to train with you, you seem like such a nice and knowledgeable guy.
daart1 1 month ago
I liked this lesson alot. Not only did you show me a cool technique you also showed how at one point you were really cocky and eventually grew into humbility. Not sure if that's a real word but it works.
hooplablahblahblah 1 month ago
@hooplablahblahblah It's "humility" :)
brottarnacke 1 month ago
@brottarnacke Ah. Thanks friend. Learn something new every day. :)
hooplablahblahblah 1 month ago
lol cool can't wait to use this on some one!!
96ammo 1 month ago
@96ammo Remember to give the guy warning before you go snapping all his shit up, hopefully he'll be smart and give up, if not do what you have to. lol
Clueless41 1 month ago
actually the "mean" way to do it would include knee strikes to the head to soften up the son of a bitch :D
robertgaudlitz 1 month ago