@OOOmarcinOOOO yeah. I really looked hard because i wanted the song with the strings that plays when Josh runs out. The song is called "Tribal War" and it has the beat that you hear at the very start of this video but not with the strings. oh well.
@GarGet1 I believe that is what they did in real life; I think wikipedia/book say that they made a perimeter with those, eh, IR beacons? And the pilots just shot targets outside the perimeter. Doing the intelligent/safe thing just wasn't as dramatic apparently.
As Mark Bowden pointed out in his book, an AC-130 wouldn't look too good plowing swaths of destruction throughout the city on a mission that was meant to be humanitarian. Not to mention, we killed about 3,000 of those bastards with minimal casualties and NO AC-130s.
@stfuplz13 Yes, but there were expected NO casualties on US side. Instead of it, 19 US soldiers died on a mission intended as quick hit-and-run operation planned to take maximally hours. And that's only because US command underestimated militia's strenght.
@stfuplz13 I meant that US command didn't expect such fighting. They expected (I'd say) maximally one or two wounded (and even that would be unlucky). In other words, they expected Somalis would shit their pants and would not fight back.
But two destroyed helicopters and 19 dead soldiers in a totally unexpected battle (most intense CQB since Vietnam war) against thousands militia men...this is great example of fucked up operation planning.
@RayPall The Vietnam War, Cold War, Gulf War, and Afghan War are all great examples of "fucked up operation planning." It took us four years to hunt down and kill Hitler along with his Nazi fucks-- yet it took us ten years to get Osama, and the Taliban are still running around Afghanistan. And the Vietnam War was a decade and a half of wasted time, money, and resources. Mogadishu was dick by comparison.
@stfuplz13 oh I'm sorry I didn't know the US made a covert attempt to assassinate Hitler, last time I checked he shot himself in his bunker as the Russians surrounded the bunker, get your facts straight, the Soviet Union did more to the Third Reich than you did.
@stfuplz13 and by the way, World War II was practically a global threat, which is why you devoted yourselves almost entirely to eliminate the Empire and the Third Reich, Mogadishu is like messing in the affairs of another country, come to think of it you could blow the hole country to bits if you wanted, but what would you accomplish? and the effort in Somalia was getting unpopular so they had to withdraw
Les Aspin was actually forced to resign after the battle when Congress found out he had denied AC-130 gunships and armored fighting vehicles to the Special Forces. It's nice to see that idiot got what he deserved
1:34 Swiiiiiissssh... tink, tink,,,, I got your position. I got your target, We're inbound hot... Love it! I miss being active duty.... the camaderie :( Anyway Have a good day everyone
@newfieboy58 with hostiles only few meters from friendlies and with dual weapons capable of fire several thousand rounds per minute, you need to be ABSOLUTELY sure there's not a single friendly soldier in a line of fire.
i may be african but seriously....those somalians can't shoot for shit and they try to act cool by shooting an ak-47 with one-hand lol its embarrassing but luckly im not one of them, i'm ivorian x]
@Psychocide They aren't soldiers in a first place, they have no training or very poor. They just drug themselves by khat, grab a rifle and run to battlezone. That's why their losses were so severe. More organized force in same numbers would just massacre all Americans just by outnumbering them.
@GothSeiDank Maybe because the Somali militia were the bad guys in this case, which they were. They purposely disrupted the UN effort to end the famine in the country, so they needed to be dealt with
@GothSeiDank That's tricky. If they would'nt include this dramatic scenes, critics would say that US soldiers are totally without emotions, just like killing machines. Of course its not true and nobody can play true emotions as it were in reality. So screenwriters must somewhat show emotions.
why they need to throw that kind of gadget if the helicopter pilot has a night vision and what kind of thing is that where Josh used to throw for the enemies at the roof?
@6digit Because despite Night vision it's really hard to tell who is who in a combat situation. Hence the IR Strobe which marks who's who. Although, in reality they used it to mark their positions and classed everyone else as hostile.
wouldnt it have been thought and planned to be a short mission im sure more firepower would have been send in there ...for ex. send an appachie or cobra all the fuckin area would have been cleaned in seconds blowin up the houses...
I am not sure if you have seen the movie or if you know about the mission but what was souposed to happen was the mission was an exraction of enemy personel that were high on the wanted list and it was only to take 30 minutes. Then a Black hawk helicopter was shot down and then the place was over whelamed with enemy personel. In a about 24 hours 19 americans were killed and another 30-50 wounded.
@andrewdemello the casualties were actually 18 killed and 73 wounded. matthew rierson was killed by a mortar after the battle, but he deserves just as much honor
what are the name of those helicopters? and no, we didn't use ac-130s because the mission was supposed to be short and they didnt expect such retaliation by the skinnys.
in my comparative politics class we talked about this event when we studied failed states. in poli sci book it claims the reason we didnt use AC130s was because it wouldnt look good using that kind of firepower against people who many believed used rocks and sticks as weapons.
also, i would have loved to have seen how things would have turned out if the task force had been given ac-130 support. they might have actually leveled the city
Its not wrong. Those bastards would gun you down for the 37 cents in your pants pocket and not think a thing about it. Its too bad another 1-1.5k of them did not catch a bullet.
@bloo96 No need my friend. The fact is that countries like these are going to destroy themselves. Somalia, Darfur, the Congo, Rwanda, Nigeria, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, its all fucked up!!! And I salute those who want to help the helpless in the middle of these shit storms. But the fact is this, its never going to end. The fighting, the killing, the genocide, the rape, the torture, the WAR, it will NEVER stop.
No its not. The start of it is Tribal War but it continues on to something different i.e when Eversmann throws the InfraRed marker, that part isn't in Tribal War. A person who put up their COD4 film with the soundtrack has it!! I WANT IT TOO!
Right. If I remember from the book, the little bird made a run down a street, not across a rooftop and there was no strobe to mark anything. The pilot actually made a couple of runs over the target, taking fire each time, to distihguish whyo was who then on the third or fourth run he engageed the targets.
movies like these are all US propaganda.. look at it.. the book and ppl who were there say they took fire yet the move shows it like the enemy was just annhilated without resistance.
Nope, I just watched Sgt. Matt Eversmann talk and he said the film was really authentic. STUPID there over 4,000 enemies and only 160 soldiers on the ground. And the US lost 19 soldiers!!!!!!!! thats ALOT OF CASUALTIES. NOT ACCEPTABLE.
not really some of the rangers were young but the majority of the Delta soldiers where hardned verterans, the somalis where untrained and many of them had not fought in actualy combat
No one would guess the Killer Eggs were originally recon helicopters. Then a smart guy got the idea of giving them minis and BOOM now we have a really badass helicopter
thats what they normally do..... mark friendly positions with a strobe.... but there would be no drama that way... the dude wouldent have to run across the square and place it on the roof and so for movie purposes they change it
funny that most of you seem to say how bad ass your troops are and how the somalis cant aim.. if it were just a gun fight with no air support you would get owned any day just like you did in wars before gun powder was used,,,,
First of all, you stupid piece of shit, is that the Americans were outnumbered in that skirmish. It wasn't meant to be a full on fire fight, it was suppose to be a short mission. Secondly, this troops are trained to fight guerrillas and they seriously can't shoot for shit. I'm guessing that you never fired a gun before or even know two shits about using a gun because anyone who knows a decent shit about weapons would know they are holding the weapons wrong and are just spraying and praying.
It has nothing to do with firing a gun. It has to do with firing a gun at another human with the intent to kill at a range where you can no longer deny or rationalize what you are doing. Not many people can do that. Only 2% of soldiers have the necessary disposition without training and conditioning. So it comes down to being kill enabled, not operating a gun.
Well he was talking about fire power, so I just sticked to the topic about guns, not including the training that is required. After all, a rifle is nothing more than a tool without a proper owner. That is what you're taught in the marines if i'm not mistaken.
i was taught that warriors dont exist no more.... only machine operators..... after all war now a days is just a dude holding a gun or a weapons platform of some kind..... if u think about it flyin a attack helicoptor is not much different then drivin a forklift..... in the sence that the machine is doing 98% of the work
Well, isn't that what technology is for? The definition of a machine in science is to make work easier for man, and that's what its doing for us in war too. However, mental and physical training is a must, and that is why training will always be a must. Because when you're alone in the field, you will only have your guts, your weapon and the training you received. An example of a well trained branch of an army is the US Rangers.
Using a rifle is no different than a whole weapons platform. I can't send a bullet down range by hand nearly as fast as the bolt on a rifle. The weapon does the work...but it is useless without someone who knows how to efficiently and safely use it to his/her advantage.
And the last thing is, you stupid dumb shit, is that America didn't even exist before gun powder was introduced you dumb stupid fuck. Grow some brains before you talk shit like how your mom fucks a donkey you dumb fucker.
That's incorrect. Statistically humans have a fierce adversion to killing other humans. Soldiers are no exception as WW2 studies found ie only a 25% firing rate on average. Most modern armies employ necessary desensitization and operant conditioning in order to kill enable their troops...otherwise what happens is non firing or firing over targets ie submission/ posturing. Given that the somalian militia is generally not trained by modern army standards, they would still get mowed down.
Not true at all. In that firefight over 1000 somalis were killed and the next day or so no one in that town wanted to fight. So that being said, our country wasn't even a wet dream before gun powder or after it. WE are still a relatively young country compared to others. Now if you want to talk sadness, Russians did fought but lost to the Afganis, which by the way got owned fairly quick. Take your mind to some reading and searching before you speak
Let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the ... flooooooooooooooooooor !!!
No way in hell would anyone run though a hail of gunfire to throw a probes at the enemy target. That's like a Marine in Fallujah run across the street of gunbattle so he could do the same thing.
Otherwise its not bad though, it does depicts the US Military capabilites.
You know in the book something like this actually happened. Except the guy didn't run across to get the IR strobe. It was a medic running across to get some IV bags for the wounded. While the idea seems unrealistic, it still happened none the less.
i wouldnt say "yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!" because really, we got our asses whooped when this happened. what was supposed to be 30 mins with barely any problems turned out to be a slaughter on the americans part. many lives were lost.
I definitely wouldn't say we got our asses whooped, nowhere close, but we fucked up what was supposed to be a fairly basic operation and cost several American lives
It was less than 200 guys up against an entire city. I believe the americans lost 17 or 18 men and the somalis lost between 1000 and 1100. They MAULED the somalis. Read the book and you will see that the movie is not overly dramatized and that the rangers absolutely SMOKED the enemy. And they were a bunch of 21 year old kids.
Because their commanders were aware that the United States abhores casualties and shocking scenes of warfare. They were fighting the war of the flea; using simple weapons and terror to defeat a technologically advanced enemy. It worked though didn't it, shortly after Clinton pulled the pin and stopped all offensive actions against Adid and then pulled U.S. troops out of Somalia. After this Clinton was reluctant to deploy U.S. troops into third world conflicts.
@CANADIAN1812 clinton was always a coward when it came to the military. i'm not a big fan of republican presidents, but that is one time i wish one was in office. reinforcements would have been sent in to destroy aidid.
The Americans fought because their people were in that chopper and the soldiers as well as commanding officers would not leave them.
The Somalis fought because it was their home. Both sides had human will. The Somalis also had Khat, which is an amphetamine and they chew it all day long.
Read the book because it so much better then the movie which was a great movie to begin with.
C2 is the orbiting helicopter command post with Colonel Harrell and Lt. Colonel Matthews. The main command post is back at base with General Garrison and Lt. Colonel Cribbs.
Did that guy say "C2 miniguns dry"? I couldn't make out the words, but I thought the only miniguns the Little Bird could have were the M134 and the GAU-19?
i whuld like one of those, without the guns, these things are pretty sexy shaped and fly like dream.
gethsoftware 5 days ago
My girl at the time loved this scene. Yeah she was cool like that.
mayamanign 4 weeks ago
Has this soundtrack been released?
OOOmarcinOOOO 2 months ago
@OOOmarcinOOOO yeah. I really looked hard because i wanted the song with the strings that plays when Josh runs out. The song is called "Tribal War" and it has the beat that you hear at the very start of this video but not with the strings. oh well.
tankmaster1018 1 month ago
i dont mean to be a downer but why didnt they just mark them selfs and just say dont shoot here?
GarGet1 3 months ago
@GarGet1 I believe that is what they did in real life; I think wikipedia/book say that they made a perimeter with those, eh, IR beacons? And the pilots just shot targets outside the perimeter. Doing the intelligent/safe thing just wasn't as dramatic apparently.
Wndrst 2 months ago
This is how I feel in Bf3 with the littlebird mowing down russians
manyexcite 3 months ago 12
As Mark Bowden pointed out in his book, an AC-130 wouldn't look too good plowing swaths of destruction throughout the city on a mission that was meant to be humanitarian. Not to mention, we killed about 3,000 of those bastards with minimal casualties and NO AC-130s.
stfuplz13 6 months ago
@stfuplz13 Yes, but there were expected NO casualties on US side. Instead of it, 19 US soldiers died on a mission intended as quick hit-and-run operation planned to take maximally hours. And that's only because US command underestimated militia's strenght.
RayPall 2 months ago
@RayPall "No casualties" spells disaster. There's no such guarantees in war.
stfuplz13 1 month ago
@stfuplz13 I meant that US command didn't expect such fighting. They expected (I'd say) maximally one or two wounded (and even that would be unlucky). In other words, they expected Somalis would shit their pants and would not fight back.
But two destroyed helicopters and 19 dead soldiers in a totally unexpected battle (most intense CQB since Vietnam war) against thousands militia men...this is great example of fucked up operation planning.
RayPall 1 month ago
@RayPall The Vietnam War, Cold War, Gulf War, and Afghan War are all great examples of "fucked up operation planning." It took us four years to hunt down and kill Hitler along with his Nazi fucks-- yet it took us ten years to get Osama, and the Taliban are still running around Afghanistan. And the Vietnam War was a decade and a half of wasted time, money, and resources. Mogadishu was dick by comparison.
stfuplz13 1 month ago
@Raypall But this is just another example of minimal effort, minimal effect.
stfuplz13 1 month ago
@stfuplz13 oh I'm sorry I didn't know the US made a covert attempt to assassinate Hitler, last time I checked he shot himself in his bunker as the Russians surrounded the bunker, get your facts straight, the Soviet Union did more to the Third Reich than you did.
zymeth0628 2 weeks ago
@stfuplz13 and by the way, World War II was practically a global threat, which is why you devoted yourselves almost entirely to eliminate the Empire and the Third Reich, Mogadishu is like messing in the affairs of another country, come to think of it you could blow the hole country to bits if you wanted, but what would you accomplish? and the effort in Somalia was getting unpopular so they had to withdraw
zymeth0628 2 weeks ago
1:16 thats me running like hell
prestonwalther1 7 months ago
Les Aspin was actually forced to resign after the battle when Congress found out he had denied AC-130 gunships and armored fighting vehicles to the Special Forces. It's nice to see that idiot got what he deserved
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DocterRictofenn 7 months ago
7 guys here receive a Minigun bullet right in the ass...
ghilliedu25 8 months ago
When you need shit done by air at night, thats when they call the 160th. Hoo-freaking-rah
XxInTheUnblindxX 8 months ago
Love that delta force guy with car15
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MrChatItOut 8 months ago
GOD DAMN that shit gets me hard!!!
bigsteel1991 8 months ago
1:34 Swiiiiiissssh... tink, tink,,,, I got your position. I got your target, We're inbound hot... Love it! I miss being active duty.... the camaderie :( Anyway Have a good day everyone
darkseraphimm 8 months ago
1:44
"WTF an Ipod? ... Aow crap!"
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPP
ghilliedu25 10 months ago 18
CNC Generals, the first USA battle starts with the same music from this scene.
BigMobe 10 months ago
thats how to deal with fucking pirates!
bonzty 11 months ago
fucking destroyed
thekkinkproject 1 year ago
Hey wait a minute... that's not how war looks like at all... AT ALL
qwerty7778 1 year ago
What is the name of the soundtrack?
Darkkian34 1 year ago
@newflieboy58 they needed to be extra sure because what would happen if he hit the rangers
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Whatta fucking garbage....if I were an American Id be ashamed....bunch of retarded brainwashed idiots..
kykulienka 1 year ago
yay the little birds are pissed and they have miniguns
tigermki 1 year ago
Wouldn't it make more sense to just put several strobes outside of the building the rangers/deltas are in, to separate friend from foe?
dougpowers2 1 year ago
@dougpowers2 wheres the drama?
Resondin 1 year ago
@Resondin Actually this is as it really happened, I think...
RayPall 2 months ago
@dougpowers2 No, because they aren't allowed to just go shooting everyone in the city that isn't a friendly troop.
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
I don't understand why the pilots required the strobe when all the bad guys were on the roof and all of the americans were inside the buildings.
newfieboy58 1 year ago
@newfieboy58 with hostiles only few meters from friendlies and with dual weapons capable of fire several thousand rounds per minute, you need to be ABSOLUTELY sure there's not a single friendly soldier in a line of fire.
RayPall 1 month ago
LEEEEROOOOYYYY JENKINNNNSSS 1:09
pawelvc 1 year ago
this scene takes on all possible meanings of the 2 phrases "bring the rain" and "give no quarter"
Avatar230594 1 year ago
wut r the songs in this whole scene cnt find it anywhere on the soundtrack?
hybridkid1 1 year ago
@hybridkid1 tribal war
tigermki 1 year ago
wut r the songs in this whole scene cnt find it anywhere on the soundtrack
hybridkid1 1 year ago
Best scene in the movie!!
dumbestname 1 year ago
Why didn't he just mark his own position with the strobe, and tell the chopper not to shoot at it?
Echelon030 1 year ago
i may be african but seriously....those somalians can't shoot for shit and they try to act cool by shooting an ak-47 with one-hand lol its embarrassing but luckly im not one of them, i'm ivorian x]
Psychocide 1 year ago
@Psychocide They aren't soldiers in a first place, they have no training or very poor. They just drug themselves by khat, grab a rifle and run to battlezone. That's why their losses were so severe. More organized force in same numbers would just massacre all Americans just by outnumbering them.
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best movie ever :-)
tobyburn 1 year ago
i get goose bumps every time i watch this part! kill thoughs somalie bastards!
tokorev747777 1 year ago
Good Job Ramirez 50+ KIA
MashedUp23 1 year ago
What happened to those two delta snipers some dude and Gordan?
246golf 1 year ago
@246golf they died rescuing the other
runeman1996 1 year ago
@246golf They also received the Medal of Honor
BryantFinlay 7 months ago
@BryantFinlay ok thnks
246golf 7 months ago
What I do not like, is the fact that the africans get slaughtered by the hundreds, but every dead american soldier is a drama...
GothSeiDank 1 year ago
@GothSeiDank Maybe because the Somali militia were the bad guys in this case, which they were. They purposely disrupted the UN effort to end the famine in the country, so they needed to be dealt with
BryantFinlay 7 months ago
@GothSeiDank That's tricky. If they would'nt include this dramatic scenes, critics would say that US soldiers are totally without emotions, just like killing machines. Of course its not true and nobody can play true emotions as it were in reality. So screenwriters must somewhat show emotions.
RayPall 1 month ago
why they need to throw that kind of gadget if the helicopter pilot has a night vision and what kind of thing is that where Josh used to throw for the enemies at the roof?
6digit 1 year ago
@6digit Because despite Night vision it's really hard to tell who is who in a combat situation. Hence the IR Strobe which marks who's who. Although, in reality they used it to mark their positions and classed everyone else as hostile.
azzameen 1 year ago
Naw I cant see shit
David4989 1 year ago
wouldnt it have been thought and planned to be a short mission im sure more firepower would have been send in there ...for ex. send an appachie or cobra all the fuckin area would have been cleaned in seconds blowin up the houses...
Proassasin1 1 year ago
@Proassasin1 too high profile
zymeth0628 1 year ago
@Proassasin1
I am not sure if you have seen the movie or if you know about the mission but what was souposed to happen was the mission was an exraction of enemy personel that were high on the wanted list and it was only to take 30 minutes. Then a Black hawk helicopter was shot down and then the place was over whelamed with enemy personel. In a about 24 hours 19 americans were killed and another 30-50 wounded.
andrewdemello 1 year ago
@andrewdemello the casualties were actually 18 killed and 73 wounded. matthew rierson was killed by a mortar after the battle, but he deserves just as much honor
BryantFinlay 1 year ago
that guy has guts and that md500 had some strong firepower!!
theboy933 1 year ago
holy shitt... this was an amazing movie
EliteTACOman 1 year ago
what are the name of those helicopters? and no, we didn't use ac-130s because the mission was supposed to be short and they didnt expect such retaliation by the skinnys.
johhnn1234 1 year ago
@johhnn1234 They are MD500s an updated version of the OH-6.
jcbak 1 year ago
@johhnn1234 @jcbak
It's actually the MH-6 Little Birds. They were based on what jcbak said. But made for the Military.
TheCarbinJ 1 year ago
160th SOAR, fuck yeah!
makreis 1 year ago
great film :D does any1 know the name of the track that plays from the start of the vid? if any1 could tell me id be pleased thx
CommanderDaz 1 year ago
@CommanderDaz its called Tribal War and you can get it on Itunes from the BHD soundtrack
tankmaster1018 1 year ago
in my comparative politics class we talked about this event when we studied failed states. in poli sci book it claims the reason we didnt use AC130s was because it wouldnt look good using that kind of firepower against people who many believed used rocks and sticks as weapons.
FunnyGuy656 1 year ago
Little Birds don't have targeting systems...it's all line of sight.
MoreThanBombs 2 years ago
Nice place for a few Daisy Cutters :)... thought the same of Fallujah when they hung those dudes off the bridge.
jeffinphx 2 years ago
also, i would have loved to have seen how things would have turned out if the task force had been given ac-130 support. they might have actually leveled the city
FunnyGuy656 2 years ago 2
that would be AC-130 heaven lol those dudes would be toast
OlderG0ds 2 years ago
i know its wrong, but I love seeing the skinnies get what they had coming to them
FunnyGuy656 2 years ago 3
Its not wrong. Those bastards would gun you down for the 37 cents in your pants pocket and not think a thing about it. Its too bad another 1-1.5k of them did not catch a bullet.
AlbertaWildman 1 year ago 4
haha na cant see shit :D best movie ever
snowboarder1349 2 years ago
We should have leveled that shit hole
bloo96 2 years ago 54
I don't know why people care so much about collateral damange, in most of these shitholes we're doing them a favor.
Antiworld23 2 years ago 3
But if it was you?
alphamax03 2 years ago
@bloo96 we actually might if they keep invading diff african countries
runeman1996 1 year ago
@bloo96 Spoken like a true ignorant American asshole.
macnos 1 year ago
@macnos
Damn fucking straight!
bloo96 1 year ago
@bloo96 You should come over here to the UK and say that at the top of your voice, you'll get a "warm" welcome.
macnos 1 year ago
@macnos
I have friends in the UK, I'm sure your right. :P
bloo96 1 year ago
@macnos If ignorance be our curse, but victory our reward then I never wish to be wise.
Davito2000 1 year ago
@bloo96 No need my friend. The fact is that countries like these are going to destroy themselves. Somalia, Darfur, the Congo, Rwanda, Nigeria, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, its all fucked up!!! And I salute those who want to help the helpless in the middle of these shit storms. But the fact is this, its never going to end. The fighting, the killing, the genocide, the rape, the torture, the WAR, it will NEVER stop.
75flash 6 months ago
@75flash tanzania has none of those problems, its poor but no war or anything like that,
SullyMediaProduction 5 months ago
@SullyMediaProduction my mistake
75flash 5 months ago
@bloo96 true that
what you get for trying to help out a country on its knees.
darrinr769 6 months ago
I have few tracks from the soundtrack, but not the one in the background of this scene. Anyone know the name of this track?
One of my favourites in this movie, so I'd be glad for the name.
TheOldSS 2 years ago
It's ''tribal war'' by Hans Zimmer
vaporazor 2 years ago
Thank you.
TheOldSS 2 years ago
No its not. The start of it is Tribal War but it continues on to something different i.e when Eversmann throws the InfraRed marker, that part isn't in Tribal War. A person who put up their COD4 film with the soundtrack has it!! I WANT IT TOO!
KRCentral 2 years ago
Right. If I remember from the book, the little bird made a run down a street, not across a rooftop and there was no strobe to mark anything. The pilot actually made a couple of runs over the target, taking fire each time, to distihguish whyo was who then on the third or fourth run he engageed the targets.
donthatejoerogan 2 years ago
movies like these are all US propaganda.. look at it.. the book and ppl who were there say they took fire yet the move shows it like the enemy was just annhilated without resistance.
Kopihucky 2 years ago
Nope, I just watched Sgt. Matt Eversmann talk and he said the film was really authentic. STUPID there over 4,000 enemies and only 160 soldiers on the ground. And the US lost 19 soldiers!!!!!!!! thats ALOT OF CASUALTIES. NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Oxstayne 2 years ago
actually considering the scope of the battle it was
SArmagh681 2 years ago
And the Somalia's have fight fight their whole lives, the Rangers and Delta were rookies.
Oxstayne 2 years ago
not really some of the rangers were young but the majority of the Delta soldiers where hardned verterans, the somalis where untrained and many of them had not fought in actualy combat
SArmagh681 2 years ago
The enemy was annhilated over 2500 somalis died in a matter of hours
SArmagh681 2 years ago
Six Guns FTW!
GalacticSystemBuster 2 years ago
No one would guess the Killer Eggs were originally recon helicopters. Then a smart guy got the idea of giving them minis and BOOM now we have a really badass helicopter
Manticon5 2 years ago
'I got your position, I got the target'. The dude saying that totally sounds like someone from C&C Generals.
jmvivie 2 years ago
Earnest question: Why didn't they mark their own position with the strobe instead?
BloisFulcher 2 years ago 2
Only reasoning I could discern would be that the opposition were more clustered, making the marking of them more definitive of an engagement.
Kaerliss 2 years ago
thats what they normally do..... mark friendly positions with a strobe.... but there would be no drama that way... the dude wouldent have to run across the square and place it on the roof and so for movie purposes they change it
TheGatman101 2 years ago
cause they are in cover and the pilot k not c the ir becon plus the enemy is out in the open making them easier to mark
xxwaterxxx 2 years ago
Never...ever..piss off The Killer Egg
SpadXIIIFlyer 2 years ago 2
definition of pwned
SamuraiPie8111 2 years ago
what´s the name of this song?
Michi1940 2 years ago
one of the best war movies ive ever seen
Luckertoni 2 years ago 32
hell yea
Purezzz123 2 years ago
@Luckertoni very sad to
908to954BOYZ 8 months ago
LOL
utzzzz12345 2 years ago
another thing to remember is that at the time, we didnt have all that much experience in urban combat.
Raven022783 2 years ago
I think 6 yrs of Urban fighting changed that
Naldo2001 2 years ago
i love this movie
ScaLe321456 2 years ago
funny that most of you seem to say how bad ass your troops are and how the somalis cant aim.. if it were just a gun fight with no air support you would get owned any day just like you did in wars before gun powder was used,,,,
nastradamous000 2 years ago
First of all, you stupid piece of shit, is that the Americans were outnumbered in that skirmish. It wasn't meant to be a full on fire fight, it was suppose to be a short mission. Secondly, this troops are trained to fight guerrillas and they seriously can't shoot for shit. I'm guessing that you never fired a gun before or even know two shits about using a gun because anyone who knows a decent shit about weapons would know they are holding the weapons wrong and are just spraying and praying.
IchigoDoTa 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with firing a gun. It has to do with firing a gun at another human with the intent to kill at a range where you can no longer deny or rationalize what you are doing. Not many people can do that. Only 2% of soldiers have the necessary disposition without training and conditioning. So it comes down to being kill enabled, not operating a gun.
MephistonVMS 2 years ago
Well he was talking about fire power, so I just sticked to the topic about guns, not including the training that is required. After all, a rifle is nothing more than a tool without a proper owner. That is what you're taught in the marines if i'm not mistaken.
IchigoDoTa 2 years ago
i was taught that warriors dont exist no more.... only machine operators..... after all war now a days is just a dude holding a gun or a weapons platform of some kind..... if u think about it flyin a attack helicoptor is not much different then drivin a forklift..... in the sence that the machine is doing 98% of the work
TheGatman101 2 years ago
Well, isn't that what technology is for? The definition of a machine in science is to make work easier for man, and that's what its doing for us in war too. However, mental and physical training is a must, and that is why training will always be a must. Because when you're alone in the field, you will only have your guts, your weapon and the training you received. An example of a well trained branch of an army is the US Rangers.
IchigoDoTa 2 years ago
Gatman, I can understand what you're saying, but there's much more to being a "warrior" than the physical aspects of war.
Kaerliss 2 years ago
Using a rifle is no different than a whole weapons platform. I can't send a bullet down range by hand nearly as fast as the bolt on a rifle. The weapon does the work...but it is useless without someone who knows how to efficiently and safely use it to his/her advantage.
crazyyella 2 years ago
@TheGatman101 remember it depends on the man holding the machine
zymeth0628 1 year ago
And the last thing is, you stupid dumb shit, is that America didn't even exist before gun powder was introduced you dumb stupid fuck. Grow some brains before you talk shit like how your mom fucks a donkey you dumb fucker.
IchigoDoTa 2 years ago
... wow .. someone failed History of the World 101
FallingStuffy 2 years ago
America wasn't even a country before gunpowder was invented. So we never fought in wars pre-dating gun power... Nice try though!
TacoEqualsFtw 2 years ago
That's incorrect. Statistically humans have a fierce adversion to killing other humans. Soldiers are no exception as WW2 studies found ie only a 25% firing rate on average. Most modern armies employ necessary desensitization and operant conditioning in order to kill enable their troops...otherwise what happens is non firing or firing over targets ie submission/ posturing. Given that the somalian militia is generally not trained by modern army standards, they would still get mowed down.
MephistonVMS 2 years ago
Not true at all. In that firefight over 1000 somalis were killed and the next day or so no one in that town wanted to fight. So that being said, our country wasn't even a wet dream before gun powder or after it. WE are still a relatively young country compared to others. Now if you want to talk sadness, Russians did fought but lost to the Afganis, which by the way got owned fairly quick. Take your mind to some reading and searching before you speak
Chochivoros3 2 years ago
One of the best scenes.
watevatube 2 years ago
1:45
Wtf is thi- *boom*
Lol
rkslayer589 2 years ago
Let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the floor, let the skinnies hit the ... flooooooooooooooooooor !!!
ghilliedu25 2 years ago
what the hell a ranger any how run through heavy enemy fire
just to seng signal to the little bird
pilots...
THATS CRAZY ! ! !
Ameline1125 2 years ago
its pitch black remember...we can only see cause of nv.
Instinct42 2 years ago
it was 200 soliders fighting the whole city they did good.
SgtChillypepper11 2 years ago 2
oh yeah they did!, and the somalis were the first guys to take down blackhawks,im impressed,
aussieblackhawk123 2 years ago
Most of the scenes in the movie are dramatized.
No way in hell would anyone run though a hail of gunfire to throw a probes at the enemy target. That's like a Marine in Fallujah run across the street of gunbattle so he could do the same thing.
Otherwise its not bad though, it does depicts the US Military capabilites.
RoyalDog214 2 years ago
you mean movies aren't realistic?
wow, it all makes sense now!
NurvTronics 2 years ago
ya really!
RoyalDog214 2 years ago
You know in the book something like this actually happened. Except the guy didn't run across to get the IR strobe. It was a medic running across to get some IV bags for the wounded. While the idea seems unrealistic, it still happened none the less.
winkaholic 2 years ago
i wouldnt say "yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!" because really, we got our asses whooped when this happened. what was supposed to be 30 mins with barely any problems turned out to be a slaughter on the americans part. many lives were lost.
flamebyte 2 years ago
I definitely wouldn't say we got our asses whooped, nowhere close, but we fucked up what was supposed to be a fairly basic operation and cost several American lives
texasranga00 2 years ago
It was less than 200 guys up against an entire city. I believe the americans lost 17 or 18 men and the somalis lost between 1000 and 1100. They MAULED the somalis. Read the book and you will see that the movie is not overly dramatized and that the rangers absolutely SMOKED the enemy. And they were a bunch of 21 year old kids.
mccartjm2 2 years ago 4
dont forget the WIA mccartjim
Instinct42 2 years ago
AMERICA FUCK YEA!!!!!!!
thats how we roll :P
jwka2001 2 years ago 3
Yeeeeeh! Take some of that grade A incendiary American firepower bitches!
Freelancer591 2 years ago 2
"Ey, Osama, look that! OH SHIT!"
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ghilliedu25 2 years ago
you are fucking dead and digged in to ground :D BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBBBB
orev230597 2 years ago
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp.............
your dead!!!!!!
thesecretcollection2 2 years ago
If you love the movie then you must read the book. The book is even better.
Jcorp67 2 years ago
1:45 "Hey look, they're givin' out iPods.... OH CRAP!" hehe. Great scene... thanks for sharing :)
TrueCourse 2 years ago 17
thanks for the laugh dude!
onmynyshit 2 years ago
i know cliff wolcotts bro but the fukin somilis GOD DAMN
RCG12549 2 years ago
why do they even fight when they obviously no their facing huge weapons and machinery like that
DukeLacrosse13 2 years ago
Because their commanders were aware that the United States abhores casualties and shocking scenes of warfare. They were fighting the war of the flea; using simple weapons and terror to defeat a technologically advanced enemy. It worked though didn't it, shortly after Clinton pulled the pin and stopped all offensive actions against Adid and then pulled U.S. troops out of Somalia. After this Clinton was reluctant to deploy U.S. troops into third world conflicts.
CANADIAN1812 2 years ago
@CANADIAN1812 clinton was always a coward when it came to the military. i'm not a big fan of republican presidents, but that is one time i wish one was in office. reinforcements would have been sent in to destroy aidid.
BryantFinlay 1 year ago
@BryantFinlay put in work man. everyone is your bro and sis.
gnorthbird 1 year ago
@gnorthbird ???
BryantFinlay 1 year ago
Another part is simply because of the human will, really. What drives people to fight against incredible odds? Besides liquor, that is XD!?
They felt the need to defend their home (although we weren't invading). But eh.
CidCaldensfey 2 years ago
The Americans fought because their people were in that chopper and the soldiers as well as commanding officers would not leave them.
The Somalis fought because it was their home. Both sides had human will. The Somalis also had Khat, which is an amphetamine and they chew it all day long.
Read the book because it so much better then the movie which was a great movie to begin with.
Jcorp67 2 years ago
C2 is the orbiting helicopter command post with Colonel Harrell and Lt. Colonel Matthews. The main command post is back at base with General Garrison and Lt. Colonel Cribbs.
BAJose 2 years ago
Did that guy say "C2 miniguns dry"? I couldn't make out the words, but I thought the only miniguns the Little Bird could have were the M134 and the GAU-19?
kevinrocks2323 2 years ago
C2 or whatever he said was the person he was talking to.
appzwizzard 2 years ago
Yeah you might be right, but he says it with no pause between "C2" and "minigun".
kevinrocks2323 2 years ago