Egal welche Art von Kommunisten...Wir verfolgen alle das selbe Ziel nur das jeder einen anderen Weg sucht. Das ist auch gut so, das einzige Problem ist, dass wir dann streiten welcher der beste Weg ist da jeder an einen anderen Weg glaubt. Dieses Problem kann aber in der Partei gelöst werden, indem sich Marxisten, Leninisten, Maoisten usw. vereinigen und einen gemeinsamen Weg suchen.
Egal ob Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist oder Trotzkist! Wir wollen alle den Kommunismus nur auf unterschiedlichen Weg! Aber man kann einen Weg finden! Drum vereinigt euch und legt die Streitereien an die Seite! FÜR EINE VEREINIGTE KPD! ROTFRONT
also ich ebenfalls Jude und Sozialist sehe diese Einstellung als schrecklich und steht komplett im Widerspruch zu unserer Ideologie. Nicht nur das Juden immer im Mittelpunkt vieler sozialistischer/kommunistischer Ereignissen waren, so gibt es auch viele jüdisch sozialistisch und sogar zionistische Organisationen (Hashomer Hatzair bitte googeln). Außerdem kann man Jude und Kommunist sein zb der Shabbat, sich einen Tag der ruhe zu gönnen ist eine sehr kommunistische Idee.
ähmmmmmmm, vergesst religionen, vergesst die bücher udn die traditionen, emanzipiert euch als mensch und nicht als jude/jüdinn, muslim/muslima oder christ/christin, versteh das nicht falsch.
Der Kommuismus spricht von Freiheit, Gleichheit und Brüderlichkeit ALLER Menschen! Die Nationalität, Herkunft usw. ist IRRELEVANT, es kommt auf den CHARAKTER eines Menschen an!
@Kafatasci35 aynı dili konuşmak yeterli değilmiş değil mi anlaşmak için o yüzden yaşasın emek denir biz de.. sen buralardan ikile dün askerin bugün akp'nin yarın bilmem kimin k.çını öp..
güzelim ortamın içine ettik senin yüzünden, neyse herşeye rağmen alman işçi sınıfına selamlar..
@deridegistirmeden Biz milliyetçiyiz, yeşil ve kızıl tehlikenin dibine kibrit suyu dökmesini biliriz. Sovyet yalakaları sizi.. TKP kaç çekti son seçimde? Kaç oy çıktı? :)
The Germans say typically " Stupid Turk" for you. But you are still trying to defend German people :)
@Kafatasci35 klavye faşisti anladığım kadarıyla alamancısın bak biz şöyle yapalım sen tkp'nin tarihini almanya özelinde bi araştır ve göçmen hakları nasıl savunulur kazanım nasıl elde edilir bir gör ve işin oyla filan olmayacağını belki anlarsın..
neyse son olarak sana iyi bi tarafları öpmeler diliyorum..
and i didn't hear anything from german working class.. but i know you are a stupid fascist..
@deridegistirmeden Ben Türkçüyüm faşist değil. Faşistler İtalya'da, Bozkurtlar burada. TKP'nin tarihini Türkiye bazında biliyorum. Atatürk'ün zamanında da kapatıldığını, Suphi'ye ne olduğunu falan biliyorum.
Aynı sonun, hepinize gelmesi dileğiyle.
Communism is a dream which will never happen. Nations will struggle, fight, have conflict with each other.
You "class theory" , yes, no one cares about it. I dont hate lower or upper classes, i hate some nations.
Nahh... noway.. this is a song about the workers of Vienna(!), so, lets think: Does Vienna lie in Germany?? Noooo, noo, noo!! It's in Austria, never ever mix up these countrys. Sadly, none of them have become communists either. (;
@Nemesisimo Vienna lies in Austria. And Austrians speak German since they are racialy Germans , right? And if im not wrong, Austria was a part of Germany in some years.
No, no, don't split up humanity by dividing them in races. Yeah, that's right, for a few years during ww2. Nevertheless you can't just call them the same, they have 2 very different cultures and a very different kind of politicians. I would even claim that in germany communism is way more popular than in Austria.
@Nemesisimo :) Humanity is already divided into races or nations. Accept or not accept, there are strict differences between nations, countries. But, Austrians and Germans are somehow same, arent they? I mean, they are both racially Germenic, speaking German, religions are also same. Just the history differs right? Prussia and Austrian Empires, two different countries existed.
I don't think so, in my view humanity is mainly divided by humans themselves. Borders are drawn by humans and are in fact just useful for economic interests. I don't see any real needs for nation and borders at all. Of course there are differences between the cultures but why should this be a problem? Why souldn't we talk with each other and get known to different types oh habits? And yeah, Austria and German are kindda comparable because of their history and culture.
@Nemesisimo Hehe my friend, the world is yet so cruel. Humanism cannot not save us. Nationalism and patriotism is the only key for every nation to get succeed. And if your government doesnt want to expand, you are getting eaten by stronger nations.
Alliances can be made, for sure. Countries who have common goals can unite and create pacts against others.
This is the only unity that i can see in this world.. Sorry.
Look where your Nationalism has brought us, we're stuck in the deepest crisis since 80 years. People everywhere are losing their jobs, their goods and everything they need for their existence. Meanwhile the rich are still making profits, everyone knows it but nobody can do anything bout it. The only way to change things if the people fight together for their interests, all people of every nation.
The main differences don't lie in nation or culture, but in class.
@Nemesisimo Why do you include nationalism into Capitalism? Nationalism does not offer a economical model like you said. It is not nationalism which brought us this point. Nationalism can cause wars, pacts, bloody scenes, but if some fat guys are getting rich day by day, it has nothing to do with patriotism or nationalism?
@Nemesisimo In theory, yes, socialism/communism may come pretty, but in pratic, i heard bad stories. Stalin's Russia was horrible. I have relatives lived then migrated. What they tell is, just, horrible..
@Nemesisimo Differences lie in genetics, that is a fact. Humans are not equal. There is no solid evidence that shows human races are equal. Besides, there is evidence that shows white and black people are definetly not equal, especially in body conditions.
You seem to make a good point in general, but don't exaggerate the genetics thing - the "hard-coded" differences between races are quite petite. The surrounding conditions are much more important when it comes to shaping societies. Not to mention their scientific and economic output, which depends on many more variables.
@TapOnX Society is way too different thing. When it comes to society, then you are definetly right. External factors such as life conditions, economy, even psychology of the enviroment is important.
The fact what i was talking about it the things that cannot be changed. For example, black people's calf muscles are stronger than white people's. This is gained from birth. See basketball, athletism and such sports are played well by black people, more than whites.
@Kafatasci35 And just like being gay, they can do fuck all about being different. This is one important point of communism. Ignore the differences that we can't do anything about and remove those that we can do something about. We don't have to be the same, but we can be equal. I hope you understand the difference.
@Ahreta There is no equality in the nature itself. You cannot decide your race but once you are born, you will behave like your roots. Social Darwinism sounds more logical than communism theory.
"We cannot change the fact that rat is a rat, but we know that already rats are disgusting animal."
@Kafatasci35 Ah, the many times debunked human nature argument. Our world is driven by material conditions, not nature, higher morals and whatnot. Empirical observation of history and social behavior proves this pretty well, I would think. Marx has written about this - have you read his works?
I don't find rats disgusting. They are just forced to adapt to dire conditions because they are pretty low in the food chain to begin with, and then we want to kill them wherever find them.
@Ahreta Marx relates every conflict with class difference which means if two people are from same class, they will not have conflict. Is this so simple? Come on, nations or governments do not fight for money everytime. Think about world wars, who cared classes? My country didnt involve into a world war just to eliminate a lower class. We did have some national issues and we claimed territory. It had nothing to about classes.
I dont think classes have bigger effect than nationality in a war.
@Kafatasci35 The world wars were just two bourgeois factions settling their differences. Nobody really wanted a war from the working class, some were just duped into thinking it would be good for them. Rationally speaking, who seriously cares about borders?
"two people are from same class, they will not have conflict."
Nobody says this, class collaboration exists. The point is that the bourgeois and working classes have fundamentally opposite interests which cannot be reconciled.
@Ahreta Nobody wanted a war? Eh? If we speak about ww1 then it was the race of imperialsm and colonialism. Who will domiante Africa and take the lead of industry? That was the problem.
If we speak about ww2 then i am sorry but your communist Russia also involved into this blood path. Communists invaded Finland, demanded territory from Latvia and Lithuania. Was this the problem of classes? No, of course not.
Nations always wanted to expand. That is the rule of this world.
@Kafatasci35 Nationality is a stupid, irrational concept, and it's also very young. Before the Enlightenment, the average peasant was loyal to his state, not his nation (if he was loyal). This alone shows that loyalty to your nation is not a natural, but an artificial concept, used by the bourgeois class to divide the working class.
@Ahreta Nationality is a value. You cannot give up from this value. You are a citizen of some country, aren't you? This brings a nationality to you. You cannot deny it, or you can deny it and live in a cave or in somewhere in Africa, just like other uncivilized black people do.
@Ahreta Rats are not lovely animals. They spread disases and bite people. Nobody likes rats usually. If you like rats then this is an exception.
We cannot condemn rats because they are rats, HOWEVER, we have the right of killing them in our territory. Since they are dangerous animals.
Just as animals, humans can be dangerous as well. We cannot condemn people, but we have the right of "kicking them" from our territory, which is so normal.
Current economic crisis is an effect of disastrous mismanagement and unethical behavior. I just don't see how socialist policies would prevent that. Because you know, why a civil servant or a representative would automatically be less corrupted than a corporate executive or an entrepreneur? Actually, the tendency seems to be quite opposite, since bureaucratization and centralization of power bring much more abuses than a lean, free market alternative.
@szolnok95 of course jew is not a religion... hahah ridiculous. You are the most ignorant person I have learned of today... You most probably are a fascist or someone who is brainwashed by capitalist/fascist/nazi propaganda. Do a favour to yourself, learn history, read Marx, if you agree or not it's not the most important thing, but at least try to understand what your speaking of.
wow des sieht man a net selten: einer der genug mathematische grundkenntnis besitzt um zu erkennen dass 100 Millionen Kommunismus-Opfer mehr sind als 10-15 Millionen NS-Opfer .. aber im grunde könnte man sie gleich zusammenzählen denn: faschist ist faschist - egal ob links oder rechts!
@isogwosidenk nicht wirklich.. wenn du marx gelesen hättest,wüsstest du,dass die sowjetunion überhaupt nicht kommunistisch war.. Man kan durchaus sagen, dass stalin und co faschisten waren,, doch man darf nicht gleichzeitig behaupten, dass sie links oder kommunisten waren,denn das stimmt nicht...
und selten sieht man jemanden,der derart unfähig ist,einen historischen gegenstand zu durchdringen.wer hat da welche verbrechen begangen,wo,wie,in welchem zeitraum,was waren die zusammenhänge,wie siehts aus mit qualität und quantität,alles das sind fragen und ansätze,die du nicht beachtest.aber sich hier als der ober-checker aufspielen.
mir ist bewusst wer wann wo welche verbrechen begangen hat und egal ob diese verbrechen in einem relativ kurzen zeitraum wie das bei den nazis oder den roten khmer der fall war oder auf längere zeit wie in der su oder in china begangen wurden - (massen)mord ist immer furchtbar ... und bitte bevor du das nächste mal den pseudohistoriker heraushängen lässt: lern geschichte
Vergiß nicht die Verbrechen der USA. Sie haben die Indianer ausgerottet, die Afrikaner versklavt, 100 Länder überfallen (zwei Weltkriege!!). Sie haben Atombomben auf Hiroshima und Nagasaki geworfen! Sie haben Konzentartionslager zB Camp X_Ray und Abu Ghraib. Amerikaner sind fast genauso schlimm wie Nazis oder Kommunismus.
ich glaube, das einzige Land ohne jegliche Verbrechen (außer Israel natürlich) ist Tonga. Nette Südsee-Speckmäuse, die einfach nur quietschsüß sind. [das bisschen Kannibalismus zählt nicht...]
@isogwosidenk Welch eine Ironie, dass gerade du, der ein Dollfuß-Video "mag", jemanden hier über Faschismus belehren willst. Die Gleichsetzung des Kommunismus mit Faschismus ist eine altbekannte Taktik der Neuen Rechten.
dollfuß hat sicher viele fehler gemacht aber er hat österreich auch gegen die (national)sozialisten verteidigt und deshalb ist er meiner meinung nach kein mörder sondern ein patriot und er war sicher weniger faschist als stalin
@isogwosidenk Dollfuß war ein (klerikal)faschistischer Diktator und Österreich als korporatistischer Ständestaat somit ein faschistischer Staat. Die Zeit unter Dollfuß und Schuschnigg war nichts anderes als eine Vorbereitungszeit auf den Anschluss. Gerade der Austrofaschismus diente vielen nachfolgenden Diktatoren wie Franco, Salazar oder Pinochet als Vorbild. Was du von sich gibst ist typische Geschichtsverfälschung à la österreichisches Kleinbürgertum.
@DieSpringendenStiefe Geh bitte ein bisschen stolz darf man doch sein wennst mich kennen würds glaub mir ich bin wirklich kein Patriot oder sonst was aber das Rote Wien ist was besonderes
Ja da geb ich dir recht.... egal es reicht langsam. Wir lassen diese lieder aufleben, und dann spielen wir sie eben beim nächsten mal! Das wars noch nicht, es hat grade erst angefangen! Je weiter sie uns ausbeuten, desto größer werden wir.
@TheFilipp93 it has the same rythm and melody but the lyrics aren´t about the russian civil war but about the workers of vienna, who declare to fight for a socialist future.
Die Welt ist jetzt verwöhnt mit ihrem Geld und ihr Gier nach Macht und findet nur Verachtung mit den Linken wesen, aber wenn die letzten Reste des Wassers, des Brotes und des letzten Tropfens Öles ausradiert werden und danach zwischen Essen und Rapsöl die Konkurrenz um sei oder nicht sein entbrannt, werden die letzten Konsumisten zur Kanibalisten! Und wenn der Kapitalismus die letzten Gletscher und Polkappen zum Schmelzen gebracht! Wird die Ideologie überleben! Was von Marx und Engels entsprang!
Hayat denilen kavgaya girdik. Çelik adımlarla yürüyoruz. Biz bu karanlık yolun sonunda; Doğacak güneşi görüyoruz Dağları aşıyor, bak yakınlaşıyor Kızıl yıldız zafer kuşu... Bu bir rüya değil, Bu bir hülya değil, yıldızıdır kurtuluşun... verschiedene sprachen,ein Thema... Sozialismus ist der einzige Weg!
Wir sind das Bauvolk der kommenden Welt, wir sind der Sämann, die Saat und das Feld. Wir sind die Schnitter der kommenden Mahd, wir sind die Zukunft und wir sind die Tat. So flieg, du flammende, du rote Fahne, voran dem Wege, den wir ziehn. Wir sind der Zukunft getreue Kämpfer, wir sind die Arbeiter von Wien. Herrn der Fabriken, ihr Herren der Welt, endlich wird eure Herrschaft gefällt. Wir, die Armee, die die Zukunft erschafft, sprengen der Fesseln engende Haft.
@2210maximilian Hättest du jemals drüber nachgedacht, was einer Pyramide, vorausgesetzt das Prinzip der Schwerkraft existiert, passiert, wenn man ihr díe tragende untere Etage raubt, würdest du nicht so reden. Das Problem ist, das die Pyramide nur eine Spitze hat, aber viele Säulen, auf denen sie steht. Was aber würdest du bei einer Pyramide als erstes wegnehmen, wenn sie danach stabiler sein soll als vorher...?
Solange die Säulen nicht zusammenstehen, ist das einfach, da genug Ersatz da ist...
@2210maximilian Vor allem würde mich interessieren, wie du so geworden bist, wie du bist. Das die Existenz dieser "ungebildeten Proleten", wie du sie nennst, das Beste ist, was dem Kapitalismus, oder auch dem weiter rechts angesiedelten Neoliberalismus passieren kann, ist wohl unstrittig. Das man allerdings mit 13 Jahren schon so indoktriniert sein kann, dass man unhinterfragt so werden will wie seine Eltern, und offensichtlich zu perfekt ist, um das Scheitern anderer zu tolerieren ist krank!!!
Facism and violence is human nature, socialsm is what we can reach after we trancended our natural heritage - and the plague of capitalism will become history.
Ich sprake nein deutsch, but das ist gut!
Bakuninite 4 hours ago
@StillRedStillArnie
Egal welche Art von Kommunisten...Wir verfolgen alle das selbe Ziel nur das jeder einen anderen Weg sucht. Das ist auch gut so, das einzige Problem ist, dass wir dann streiten welcher der beste Weg ist da jeder an einen anderen Weg glaubt. Dieses Problem kann aber in der Partei gelöst werden, indem sich Marxisten, Leninisten, Maoisten usw. vereinigen und einen gemeinsamen Weg suchen.
2013Redstar 1 day ago
@2013Redstar Aberaber! Was ist mit den Maoisten und Titoisten?
StillRedStillArnie 1 day ago
Egal ob Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist oder Trotzkist! Wir wollen alle den Kommunismus nur auf unterschiedlichen Weg! Aber man kann einen Weg finden! Drum vereinigt euch und legt die Streitereien an die Seite! FÜR EINE VEREINIGTE KPD! ROTFRONT
2013Redstar 1 day ago
also ich ebenfalls Jude und Sozialist sehe diese Einstellung als schrecklich und steht komplett im Widerspruch zu unserer Ideologie. Nicht nur das Juden immer im Mittelpunkt vieler sozialistischer/kommunistischer Ereignissen waren, so gibt es auch viele jüdisch sozialistisch und sogar zionistische Organisationen (Hashomer Hatzair bitte googeln). Außerdem kann man Jude und Kommunist sein zb der Shabbat, sich einen Tag der ruhe zu gönnen ist eine sehr kommunistische Idee.
SocialisticPartisan 1 week ago
@SocialisticPartisan
ähmmmmmmm, vergesst religionen, vergesst die bücher udn die traditionen, emanzipiert euch als mensch und nicht als jude/jüdinn, muslim/muslima oder christ/christin, versteh das nicht falsch.
fupoNRK666 3 days ago
dieses lied macht mich stolz der ARBEITERKLASSE!!! anzugehören!
antifaschist09 1 week ago
Der Kommuismus spricht von Freiheit, Gleichheit und Brüderlichkeit ALLER Menschen! Die Nationalität, Herkunft usw. ist IRRELEVANT, es kommt auf den CHARAKTER eines Menschen an!
DemocraticMarxist 2 weeks ago 2
Lopp70 ist kein Kommunist! Nicht mit dieser Einstellung!
Tod dem Judentum? Was kommt danach? Muslime?
Als Jude widert mich solche Dummheit an!
DemocraticMarxist 2 weeks ago 9
@DemocraticMarxist
Sie haben Recht Kamerad!
Narod17 2 weeks ago
@DemocraticMarxist Du bist Jude? Du weißt schon dass Kommunismus anti-religiös ist?
marsling12 1 week ago
Death to capitalism, judaism and fascism
lopp70 3 weeks ago
@lopp70 antisemitismus ist nicht cool, auch nicht im namen des kommunismus.
EddySensei 3 weeks ago
@EddySensei judaism ist schlechter als Kapitalismus. An now, Capitalism is controlled by jews.
lopp70 2 weeks ago
@lopp70 deine weltanschaung ist schlimmer als der kapitalismus, freundchen.
EddySensei 2 weeks ago
Belaya armya chornij Baron...
Mortalsbane 1 month ago
@Mortalsbane True.
Znegjuk A dult is my favorite though, its hungrarian.
iwannabethekid34x 1 month ago
Muhteşem
cavus277 2 months ago
yaşasın işçilerin birliği!
deridegistirmeden 2 months ago
@deridegistirmeden Git sor bakalım Almanlara senle birlik falan oluyorlar mı ? Dingil.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35 aynı dili konuşmak yeterli değilmiş değil mi anlaşmak için o yüzden yaşasın emek denir biz de.. sen buralardan ikile dün askerin bugün akp'nin yarın bilmem kimin k.çını öp..
güzelim ortamın içine ettik senin yüzünden, neyse herşeye rağmen alman işçi sınıfına selamlar..
deridegistirmeden 1 month ago
@deridegistirmeden Biz milliyetçiyiz, yeşil ve kızıl tehlikenin dibine kibrit suyu dökmesini biliriz. Sovyet yalakaları sizi.. TKP kaç çekti son seçimde? Kaç oy çıktı? :)
The Germans say typically " Stupid Turk" for you. But you are still trying to defend German people :)
How moron are you? Right?
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Kafatasci35 klavye faşisti anladığım kadarıyla alamancısın bak biz şöyle yapalım sen tkp'nin tarihini almanya özelinde bi araştır ve göçmen hakları nasıl savunulur kazanım nasıl elde edilir bir gör ve işin oyla filan olmayacağını belki anlarsın..
neyse son olarak sana iyi bi tarafları öpmeler diliyorum..
and i didn't hear anything from german working class.. but i know you are a stupid fascist..
deridegistirmeden 1 month ago
@deridegistirmeden Ben Türkçüyüm faşist değil. Faşistler İtalya'da, Bozkurtlar burada. TKP'nin tarihini Türkiye bazında biliyorum. Atatürk'ün zamanında da kapatıldığını, Suphi'ye ne olduğunu falan biliyorum.
Aynı sonun, hepinize gelmesi dileğiyle.
Communism is a dream which will never happen. Nations will struggle, fight, have conflict with each other.
You "class theory" , yes, no one cares about it. I dont hate lower or upper classes, i hate some nations.
Tschüss, German puppet.
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Kafatasci35 klasik türk mal'ı..
deridegistirmeden 1 month ago 3
Communism is the best ideology! Greatings from Israel comrades!
guyshtein10 2 months ago
Since when have the Germans become communists? :)
Come on guys.. Just do not ruin your industry with this kind of stupid ideology.
Kafatasci35 3 months ago
@Kafatasci35
Nahh... noway.. this is a song about the workers of Vienna(!), so, lets think: Does Vienna lie in Germany?? Noooo, noo, noo!! It's in Austria, never ever mix up these countrys. Sadly, none of them have become communists either. (;
Nemesisimo 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo Vienna lies in Austria. And Austrians speak German since they are racialy Germans , right? And if im not wrong, Austria was a part of Germany in some years.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35
No, no, don't split up humanity by dividing them in races. Yeah, that's right, for a few years during ww2. Nevertheless you can't just call them the same, they have 2 very different cultures and a very different kind of politicians. I would even claim that in germany communism is way more popular than in Austria.
Nemesisimo 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo :) Humanity is already divided into races or nations. Accept or not accept, there are strict differences between nations, countries. But, Austrians and Germans are somehow same, arent they? I mean, they are both racially Germenic, speaking German, religions are also same. Just the history differs right? Prussia and Austrian Empires, two different countries existed.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35
I don't think so, in my view humanity is mainly divided by humans themselves. Borders are drawn by humans and are in fact just useful for economic interests. I don't see any real needs for nation and borders at all. Of course there are differences between the cultures but why should this be a problem? Why souldn't we talk with each other and get known to different types oh habits? And yeah, Austria and German are kindda comparable because of their history and culture.
Nemesisimo 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo Hehe my friend, the world is yet so cruel. Humanism cannot not save us. Nationalism and patriotism is the only key for every nation to get succeed. And if your government doesnt want to expand, you are getting eaten by stronger nations.
Alliances can be made, for sure. Countries who have common goals can unite and create pacts against others.
This is the only unity that i can see in this world.. Sorry.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35
Look where your Nationalism has brought us, we're stuck in the deepest crisis since 80 years. People everywhere are losing their jobs, their goods and everything they need for their existence. Meanwhile the rich are still making profits, everyone knows it but nobody can do anything bout it. The only way to change things if the people fight together for their interests, all people of every nation.
The main differences don't lie in nation or culture, but in class.
Nemesisimo 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo Why do you include nationalism into Capitalism? Nationalism does not offer a economical model like you said. It is not nationalism which brought us this point. Nationalism can cause wars, pacts, bloody scenes, but if some fat guys are getting rich day by day, it has nothing to do with patriotism or nationalism?
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo In theory, yes, socialism/communism may come pretty, but in pratic, i heard bad stories. Stalin's Russia was horrible. I have relatives lived then migrated. What they tell is, just, horrible..
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Nemesisimo Differences lie in genetics, that is a fact. Humans are not equal. There is no solid evidence that shows human races are equal. Besides, there is evidence that shows white and black people are definetly not equal, especially in body conditions.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35
You seem to make a good point in general, but don't exaggerate the genetics thing - the "hard-coded" differences between races are quite petite. The surrounding conditions are much more important when it comes to shaping societies. Not to mention their scientific and economic output, which depends on many more variables.
TapOnX 2 months ago
@TapOnX Society is way too different thing. When it comes to society, then you are definetly right. External factors such as life conditions, economy, even psychology of the enviroment is important.
The fact what i was talking about it the things that cannot be changed. For example, black people's calf muscles are stronger than white people's. This is gained from birth. See basketball, athletism and such sports are played well by black people, more than whites.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35 And just like being gay, they can do fuck all about being different. This is one important point of communism. Ignore the differences that we can't do anything about and remove those that we can do something about. We don't have to be the same, but we can be equal. I hope you understand the difference.
Ahreta 1 month ago
@Ahreta There is no equality in the nature itself. You cannot decide your race but once you are born, you will behave like your roots. Social Darwinism sounds more logical than communism theory.
"We cannot change the fact that rat is a rat, but we know that already rats are disgusting animal."
Got it?
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Kafatasci35 Ah, the many times debunked human nature argument. Our world is driven by material conditions, not nature, higher morals and whatnot. Empirical observation of history and social behavior proves this pretty well, I would think. Marx has written about this - have you read his works?
I don't find rats disgusting. They are just forced to adapt to dire conditions because they are pretty low in the food chain to begin with, and then we want to kill them wherever find them.
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@Ahreta Marx relates every conflict with class difference which means if two people are from same class, they will not have conflict. Is this so simple? Come on, nations or governments do not fight for money everytime. Think about world wars, who cared classes? My country didnt involve into a world war just to eliminate a lower class. We did have some national issues and we claimed territory. It had nothing to about classes.
I dont think classes have bigger effect than nationality in a war.
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
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@Kafatasci35 The world wars were just two bourgeois factions settling their differences. Nobody really wanted a war from the working class, some were just duped into thinking it would be good for them. Rationally speaking, who seriously cares about borders?
"two people are from same class, they will not have conflict."
Nobody says this, class collaboration exists. The point is that the bourgeois and working classes have fundamentally opposite interests which cannot be reconciled.
Ahreta 1 month ago
@Ahreta Nobody wanted a war? Eh? If we speak about ww1 then it was the race of imperialsm and colonialism. Who will domiante Africa and take the lead of industry? That was the problem.
If we speak about ww2 then i am sorry but your communist Russia also involved into this blood path. Communists invaded Finland, demanded territory from Latvia and Lithuania. Was this the problem of classes? No, of course not.
Nations always wanted to expand. That is the rule of this world.
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Kafatasci35 Nationality is a stupid, irrational concept, and it's also very young. Before the Enlightenment, the average peasant was loyal to his state, not his nation (if he was loyal). This alone shows that loyalty to your nation is not a natural, but an artificial concept, used by the bourgeois class to divide the working class.
Ahreta 1 month ago
@Ahreta Nationality is a value. You cannot give up from this value. You are a citizen of some country, aren't you? This brings a nationality to you. You cannot deny it, or you can deny it and live in a cave or in somewhere in Africa, just like other uncivilized black people do.
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Ahreta Rats are not lovely animals. They spread disases and bite people. Nobody likes rats usually. If you like rats then this is an exception.
We cannot condemn rats because they are rats, HOWEVER, we have the right of killing them in our territory. Since they are dangerous animals.
Just as animals, humans can be dangerous as well. We cannot condemn people, but we have the right of "kicking them" from our territory, which is so normal.
Life is a battle itself, nothing else..
Kafatasci35 1 month ago
@Nemesisimo
Current economic crisis is an effect of disastrous mismanagement and unethical behavior. I just don't see how socialist policies would prevent that. Because you know, why a civil servant or a representative would automatically be less corrupted than a corporate executive or an entrepreneur? Actually, the tendency seems to be quite opposite, since bureaucratization and centralization of power bring much more abuses than a lean, free market alternative.
TapOnX 2 months ago
@Kafatasci35
Peace?
Free trade, religious unity/ecumenism, cultural cooperation. There you go.
TapOnX 2 months ago
@TapOnX Sorry i cannot see which part of my comment you have answered. And what did you mean by cultural cooperation?
Since i cannot see any cooperation between east and west cultures. And i am sure i wont see.
Kafatasci35 2 months ago
Greetings from Crapitalist World HQ, USA...but yet the workers and people will rise soon enough!
Canadees7 3 months ago
greetins comrades from Poland. communism fell but we shall rise again.
TheGorale97 3 months ago
@Neidhardt84
Trottel! Dollfuß verteidigte unser Land vor dem Nationalsozialismus!
und Geschichtsverfälschung a la österreichisches Kleinbürgertum???!!! So ein Schwachsinn!
sturmgraz21 3 months ago
Rot Weiß Rot bis in den Tod!
Heil Dollfuß!
sturmgraz21 3 months ago
ICH PISSE ARSCHWASSER!!
itsnotfunnyHAHA 3 months ago
Arbeiter vereinigt euch!
Patiboyification 3 months ago
Greetings from America, comrades. Death to capitalism and fascism!
SonicobbsessedR2 4 months ago 46
@SonicobbsessedR2 Brain wash on! Naive man! Defend the jewish communism! THAT'S NOT FUTURE!
szolnok95 1 week ago
@szolnok95 shut up idiot
aziago 1 week ago
@aziago ths truth is idiotism?:)
szolnok95 1 week ago
@szolnok95 yes your comment is naive and idiotic and it is idiotic that you think you know/speak the truth.
Jewish comunism? What's that??? Comunism is not about religion (quite opposed).
Go read Marx, before you comment.
aziago 1 week ago
@aziago JEW IS 1 PEOPLE! NOT religion...OMFG..and I'm talking facts
szolnok95 1 week ago
@szolnok95 of course jew is not a religion... hahah ridiculous. You are the most ignorant person I have learned of today... You most probably are a fascist or someone who is brainwashed by capitalist/fascist/nazi propaganda. Do a favour to yourself, learn history, read Marx, if you agree or not it's not the most important thing, but at least try to understand what your speaking of.
Bye, I wish no more conversation with you.
aziago 1 week ago
@aziago PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf.........ok.....Communist usual compassion can not only talk the talk about arrogant idiot Bye :)
szolnok95 1 week ago
@szolnok95 >Jewish communism
I thought you uneducated white supremacist trash thought jews where extra greedy. And, if anything, Israel is a fascist state.
SonicobbsessedR2 1 week ago
@isogwosidenk
Endlich einer der versteht, dass Kommunismus noch schlimmer ist als Nationalsozialismus, Scheiß Kommunisten!!!
sturmgraz21 4 months ago
@sturmgraz21
wow des sieht man a net selten: einer der genug mathematische grundkenntnis besitzt um zu erkennen dass 100 Millionen Kommunismus-Opfer mehr sind als 10-15 Millionen NS-Opfer .. aber im grunde könnte man sie gleich zusammenzählen denn: faschist ist faschist - egal ob links oder rechts!
isogwosidenk 4 months ago
@isogwosidenk nicht wirklich.. wenn du marx gelesen hättest,wüsstest du,dass die sowjetunion überhaupt nicht kommunistisch war.. Man kan durchaus sagen, dass stalin und co faschisten waren,, doch man darf nicht gleichzeitig behaupten, dass sie links oder kommunisten waren,denn das stimmt nicht...
SayNOtoRacism13 4 months ago
@isogwosidenk @isogwosidenk
und selten sieht man jemanden,der derart unfähig ist,einen historischen gegenstand zu durchdringen.wer hat da welche verbrechen begangen,wo,wie,in welchem zeitraum,was waren die zusammenhänge,wie siehts aus mit qualität und quantität,alles das sind fragen und ansätze,die du nicht beachtest.aber sich hier als der ober-checker aufspielen.
rostkehlchen 3 months ago
@rostkehlchen
mir ist bewusst wer wann wo welche verbrechen begangen hat und egal ob diese verbrechen in einem relativ kurzen zeitraum wie das bei den nazis oder den roten khmer der fall war oder auf längere zeit wie in der su oder in china begangen wurden - (massen)mord ist immer furchtbar ... und bitte bevor du das nächste mal den pseudohistoriker heraushängen lässt: lern geschichte
isogwosidenk 3 months ago
@isogwosidenk
Vergiß nicht die Verbrechen der USA. Sie haben die Indianer ausgerottet, die Afrikaner versklavt, 100 Länder überfallen (zwei Weltkriege!!). Sie haben Atombomben auf Hiroshima und Nagasaki geworfen! Sie haben Konzentartionslager zB Camp X_Ray und Abu Ghraib. Amerikaner sind fast genauso schlimm wie Nazis oder Kommunismus.
obama93142 3 months ago
@obama93142
klar auch von den usa wurden verbrechen begangen bzw. werden es zum teil noch immer
isogwosidenk 3 months ago
@isogwosidenk
ich glaube, das einzige Land ohne jegliche Verbrechen (außer Israel natürlich) ist Tonga. Nette Südsee-Speckmäuse, die einfach nur quietschsüß sind. [das bisschen Kannibalismus zählt nicht...]
obama93142 3 months ago
@isogwosidenk Welch eine Ironie, dass gerade du, der ein Dollfuß-Video "mag", jemanden hier über Faschismus belehren willst. Die Gleichsetzung des Kommunismus mit Faschismus ist eine altbekannte Taktik der Neuen Rechten.
Neidhardt84 3 months ago
@Neidhardt84
dollfuß hat sicher viele fehler gemacht aber er hat österreich auch gegen die (national)sozialisten verteidigt und deshalb ist er meiner meinung nach kein mörder sondern ein patriot und er war sicher weniger faschist als stalin
isogwosidenk 3 months ago
@isogwosidenk Dollfuß war ein (klerikal)faschistischer Diktator und Österreich als korporatistischer Ständestaat somit ein faschistischer Staat. Die Zeit unter Dollfuß und Schuschnigg war nichts anderes als eine Vorbereitungszeit auf den Anschluss. Gerade der Austrofaschismus diente vielen nachfolgenden Diktatoren wie Franco, Salazar oder Pinochet als Vorbild. Was du von sich gibst ist typische Geschichtsverfälschung à la österreichisches Kleinbürgertum.
Neidhardt84 3 months ago
lang lebe der kapitalismus!
isogwosidenk 4 months ago
Byeliya armiya chorniye baron in german? excellent take on this wonderful song my comrades!
MrFrostmourne1 4 months ago
Hoch dem Kommunismus
333Tirol 5 months ago
auf zum letzen gefecht!!!
RojWeedAltona 5 months ago
Geiles lied. Rot bis zum tod.
TheFreeFlow 5 months ago 2
in hungarian: zengjuk a dalt , it sounds better
chilliegillie 5 months ago
Dieses Lied macht mich Stolz Wiener zu sein
SocialisticPartisan 6 months ago 19
@SocialisticPartisan local patriotism suxx
c0rex 6 months ago
@SocialisticPartisan
Sei lieber stolz auf deine eigenen Taten!
DieSpringendenStiefe 3 weeks ago
@DieSpringendenStiefe Geh bitte ein bisschen stolz darf man doch sein wennst mich kennen würds glaub mir ich bin wirklich kein Patriot oder sonst was aber das Rote Wien ist was besonderes
SocialisticPartisan 1 week ago
some parts of it sonds like "Autumn Leaves"
hoshmack 7 months ago
Hallo, so wie es z..Zt. um die Arbeiterklasse bestellt ist, sehe ich schwarz bezügl.
der Kampfbereitschaft speziell der deutschen. Ich war 2004 mit der Gewerkschaft
zur Anti Hartz IV Demo in Berlin. Bei ca. 250.000 Teilnehmern fand ich, dass es wie
ein Trauermarsch war bzw. Latschdemo. Solche Arbeiterlieder hätten von einem
Lautsprecherwagen gespielt worden sein und möglichst viel mitgesungen !
!971 war ich eben 16 Lenze alt und auf der Maidemo, wo die Scherben auf `nem
LKW gespielt haben!
Dackel96 7 months ago 2
@Dackel96
Ja da geb ich dir recht.... egal es reicht langsam. Wir lassen diese lieder aufleben, und dann spielen wir sie eben beim nächsten mal! Das wars noch nicht, es hat grade erst angefangen! Je weiter sie uns ausbeuten, desto größer werden wir.
TheFreeFlow 5 months ago
RotFront!
Genossen, comrades, tovarish! Unite!
174wolf 7 months ago
@174wolf Sudruhovia so sagt man es auf Tschechisch und Slowakisch
aber ich bin voll deiner Meinung
SocialisticPartisan 6 months ago
ROTFRONT!
BloodyNerd92 7 months ago
Läuft....
Jonasdarowje 8 months ago
why does it use the music of "White Army, Black Baron"?
DeadAliveGuy2 8 months ago 3
@DeadAliveGuy2 because its awesome :D and communist music doesn't know patents
gertschus 8 months ago
Is this the german version of the Russian song' white army black baron'?
TheFilipp93 9 months ago
@TheFilipp93 it has the same rythm and melody but the lyrics aren´t about the russian civil war but about the workers of vienna, who declare to fight for a socialist future.
TheAngryAnarchist 9 months ago
Die Welt ist jetzt verwöhnt mit ihrem Geld und ihr Gier nach Macht und findet nur Verachtung mit den Linken wesen, aber wenn die letzten Reste des Wassers, des Brotes und des letzten Tropfens Öles ausradiert werden und danach zwischen Essen und Rapsöl die Konkurrenz um sei oder nicht sein entbrannt, werden die letzten Konsumisten zur Kanibalisten! Und wenn der Kapitalismus die letzten Gletscher und Polkappen zum Schmelzen gebracht! Wird die Ideologie überleben! Was von Marx und Engels entsprang!
Interessanto 9 months ago
@Interessanto Tolles Kommentar :D
xCCCPCLANx 7 months ago
must... have... TRANSLATION!
lowenjennings 10 months ago
Es Lebe der Roter Stern!!!
DeJa0789 10 months ago
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DeJa0789 10 months ago
Greetings,Long LiVE REVOLUTION
klistenes1905 10 months ago
Ok also zu dem Zeichen sage ich mal nichts. ...
Iambosnianful 11 months ago
abramovicxxl 11 months ago 3
This song brings it to the point:
We are the ones to fight for the future,
no matter what our parents did, no matter what our children will do:
we live in these days and we fight in these days!
lets stand together!
lordbrainless1 11 months ago
Neben dem Einheitsfrontlied und "Bella Ciao" mein liebstes Befreiungslied!^^
LokNWykLeer 11 months ago
PravoslavnyDesant 1 year ago
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Wie auch die Lüge uns schmähend umkreist,
alles besiegend erhebt sich der Geist.
Kerker und Eisen zerbricht seine Macht,
wenn wir uns rüsten zur letzten Schlacht.
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So flieg, du flammende, du rote Fahne,
voran dem Wege, den wir ziehn.
Wir sind der Zukunft getreue Kämpfer,
wir sind die Arbeiter von Wien.
PravoslavnyDesant 1 year ago
Bela kaj kortusxa kanto.Kun granda plezuro mi ekkauxdus gxin esperante.
Inspektisto 1 year ago
Long live kommunism and socialism. Greeting from Bulgaria, Comrades!
Hrisstar 1 year ago 18
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klistenes1905 1 year ago
Long Live Solidarity
klistenes1905 1 year ago
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jpfreund 1 year ago
@2210maximilian
das du erst 13 bist merkt man dir an, unendlich naiv! es geht nicht um faulheit oder dummheit, sondern um CHANCENGLEICHHEIT!
jpfreund 1 year ago 3
Ihr die sich von 2210maximilian verarscht fühlen hier ist seine adresse Lan*******straße 1*
fabian4357 1 year ago
PROLETEN wählt die Kapitelisten ihr ****** asozialen
macht eine gute ausbildung und geht studieren
es gibt nichts was ich mehr hasse als ungebildete Proleten und ich bin erst 13
2210maximilian 1 year ago
@2210maximilian Hättest du jemals drüber nachgedacht, was einer Pyramide, vorausgesetzt das Prinzip der Schwerkraft existiert, passiert, wenn man ihr díe tragende untere Etage raubt, würdest du nicht so reden. Das Problem ist, das die Pyramide nur eine Spitze hat, aber viele Säulen, auf denen sie steht. Was aber würdest du bei einer Pyramide als erstes wegnehmen, wenn sie danach stabiler sein soll als vorher...?
Solange die Säulen nicht zusammenstehen, ist das einfach, da genug Ersatz da ist...
boehserPeps 1 year ago
@2210maximilian Vor allem würde mich interessieren, wie du so geworden bist, wie du bist. Das die Existenz dieser "ungebildeten Proleten", wie du sie nennst, das Beste ist, was dem Kapitalismus, oder auch dem weiter rechts angesiedelten Neoliberalismus passieren kann, ist wohl unstrittig. Das man allerdings mit 13 Jahren schon so indoktriniert sein kann, dass man unhinterfragt so werden will wie seine Eltern, und offensichtlich zu perfekt ist, um das Scheitern anderer zu tolerieren ist krank!!!
boehserPeps 1 year ago 2
Hoch die Internationale Solidarität!
Rote Grüße aus Hessen.
Joscha1889 1 year ago
Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch!
PharaohOfEgypt 1 year ago
cool this song is a other version of the red army is the strongest
outskool100 1 year ago
Herren der Fabriken, ihr Herren der Welt, endlich wird eure Herrschaft gefällt! Organisiert euch!
monobboard 1 year ago 2
Teşekkür ederim.
irmaksert 1 year ago
Workers of the world unite! Greating from Hungary comrades!
FuxosGabor 1 year ago 65
Human nature?
Facism and violence is human nature, socialsm is what we can reach after we trancended our natural heritage - and the plague of capitalism will become history.
VotaCommunista 1 year ago 75
@VotaCommunista
Bullshit.
a human "is the ensemble of the social relations. " (Marx)
FecalFetishist 1 year ago 2
@VotaCommunista capatalism only works with those who own capital
the majority dont
jimmyjohnson691 1 year ago
@VotaCommunista you are wrong ! Human nature is cooperation , capitalism lies to us !
proletarcccp 8 months ago
@VotaCommunista I do not believe that, Socialism is human nature... but the sickness of capitalism and fascism has gripped our culture.
ZaeroZ 7 months ago 2
@VotaCommunista
You're so full of shit...
BabyGreen162 6 months ago
This day will never come, because Socialism is human nature
jakenekrassov 1 year ago 3
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It will come a day when all communist shall perish a this plague will become history
Benywarlock 1 year ago
Bela kanto.Mi volus audi gxin en Esperanto.
Inspektisto 1 year ago