You must be blind then, the PGF is indeed showing a real Sasquatch proven so after much hard examination by scientists worldwide, thus proving the jealous Hollywood nerds wrong.
you dumb fuckers will believe anything ....his gate is what sells it...its a hoax made on an old camera...nothing more... except your over active imagination theres nothing real here
Dr. Melba Ketchum update: I thought we would be finished in a few weeks, but instead, Sasquatch threw us curve balls even with their DNA which can be as elusive as they are.We are past that! As a result, we have assembled a renowned team, each of us with our own specialties to make this project "extraordinary".If everyone will hang in there, I promise it will be worth the wait. We have the proof, now just give us the opportunity to present it in a form that will even convince skeptics.
No one was in there. The human anatomy won't allow for it. Patty's over 7ft, but wannabe debunkers say it's some 6ft guy, but that's not possible since the legs are seen in full view. -Not only do they not look like the guy (BobH), but the upper body's much longer than his typical human torso, so how can it be him. Can't, not big enough. BF anatomy's basically the opposite of human, more apelike. There is zero way for a guy to operate inside anything looking like this, he can't reach either way.
If it was a suit the where is it? Until somebody produces it then I'll beleive it's a fake. Also there was some one else who said they were in the suit. What were 2 people in there?
If you watch the Planet of the Apes movies you'll notice the apes are always wearing clothes because the guy who did the costumes could not get the muscle movement under the fur.He realized it looked ridiculous.If a top special effects guy in Hollywood could not make an authentic looking suit then what makes you think these two bozos could do it.
@Motorsash WRONG! They clothed them for budgetary reasons. And that's not a quadricep muscle, it's cheap fur folded over on a cheap costume that people insist on pretending is actual animal muscle. Please, for future reference, why not actually see what special effects people said about the costume, like Rick Baker, Stan Winston, and Bob Burns. This suit is laughable by the best in hollywood, and Chambers only told people he didn't make the costume, not that he couldn't.
What is harder to believe, that two men go out searching for evidence of Bigfoot and and suddenly happen across a large primate ambling across a creek or that the whole thing was carefully staged managed with Bob H in a monkey suit? Given Bob H's testimony and the highly improbable circumstances, one can only conclude that the patty footage was likely faked. Having said that, that does not explain the wealth of other credible bigfoot evidence going back many years. This case is not closed.
Roger Patterson was out looking for bigfoot for the best part of 1967. He didn't go out for just one day and bump straight into one. He was in the Bluff Creek area for 3 straight weeks riding daily up the creeks on horseback. He also went down to Bluff Creek because multiple track fins had been reported in the nearby area just a few weeks before.
People complain when folks looking for bigfoot never find them but then when one DOES find a bigfoot these people still complain.
@fastwalker100 I'm skeptical as well, but there's simply no way this guy is the guy in the suit - and the "suit" displayed looked virtually nothing like what we see here. Not to mention the musculature, which in 1967 would have been nigh impossible to even approximate- this thing is clearly massively built, and Bob is NOT a massive man at all. It remains the only video I have seen where it's not immediately obvious as a guy in a suit-it is ALWAYS obvious to me when it is...this one, idk...
If we put aside debates over the film's validity, what about the native Indians to the Columbia Valley who've never been in contact with a primate, therefore could not know what its features are, yet adorned their pottery, sculpted their art and painted countless obvious ape-like images. They have seen something like it, and did not travel to regions that have primates of any kind. This in and of itself is serious evidence that should be more discussed.
I believe too many people are lacking objectivity when lots of evidence; from Patterson rarely holding a job; wrote a book he was promoting and we all know that Heronimous, Patterson and Gimlim knew each other...the pics in the below book prove it...and Patterson and Gimblin used Bob H.s horses..and they just happened to go out and catch on film footage something never before or after (with Pattersons unsavory character)....how convenient....I don't buy it...it stinks of self promotion.
Keep in mind Bob H. his elderly mother and cousin confirmed it..his mother saw the suit in the trunk of the car and was frightened...she acknoweledge this in her 80s for the interview for the book interivew the "MAKINGING OF BIGFOOT" and his cousin put the head piece on and ran around with it..(as a child) and he still confirmed he did that.to this day..MK Davis unintentionally confirmed the fake....google MK Davis bigfoot and in head section a weird recltion occurs ..Bob had a glass right eye
"all this time,ya know, waiting for a bullet to crack me in the butt". If Bob H., Patterson, and Gimlin set this up together than why would Bob worry about taking a bullet in the rear? Moreover, would he have taken a bullet just to get this footage? I seriously doubt it, and I don't think Gimlin was gonna shoot him. Hunters around? Maybe. Bob's comment about getting shot is puzzling.
@smimot not taking Bob H's side here/ just stating- it was hunting season, and i think his remark about catching a bullet, was his thinking of the possibility that there could have been other hunters around, who seeing him walking across that creek bed, might have taken a shot thinking he was a bear or ??? That's the way I took it. Gimlin has stated that it was hunting season as well too. so... ok that's it, hope this helped...?
@smimot Boy... that's a toughy... I guess I lean more towards it being real, but i have reservations. I'd like to say I dont believe Bob H, but between him and Gimlin- Bob H has (ive heard) taken two polygraphs and passed, and doesnt seem to shy away from discussing it with even those who vehemently disagree w/ him. Gimlin on the other hand is very elusive and wont discuss Bob H's claims... that is troubling to me. The film itself is very compelling to me...
@artsmith1972,here's my view. The PGF was shown to the world. Shows a bipedal creature. Debunkers raved but can't conclusively prove it's fake, only verbally. The pro-bigfoot group has "evidence" on film that is so compelling that I want to believe that it exists, yet I remain cautious. Not out of being called a fool or such. Names have never left any scars on me. The truth will only be manifest when, if, a flesh and blood specimen is brought forth, studied, and scientifically declared unknown.
@artsmith1972 , I know I sound like I'm straddling the fence but I can't think of any other way to prove or dis-prove the bigfoot mystery. I've had my own experience with this issue. Real animal or elaborate hoax? Wish I knew.
Luckily opinions are free. But there was no suit since the anatomy is nonhuman and unreachable, arms, torso, muscles...people should snap out of this idea that Hollywood - or botox - can fix all your problems and issues... Not the case.
I believe in Bigfoot...too many reports going back too many years for there not to be "something" to it! But i am convinced that the Patterson/Gimlin footage is a fake. It's Bob Heronimous in a suit...in my opinion. When it turns to look back the midsection seems to twist like a 2 piece suit would...the tracks it left were deeper in the ground than a man on horseback(it was NOT that heavy, the tracks were planted). And what settled it for me was Gimlin's lack of response to the allegations.
"Forced perspective" is not classified as "conjecture" in any technical photographic sense of the word(s). It means the leaving out of any human, animate or inanimate objects in the film or photo in which to make a photogrammetric comparision with, to determine it's true size. In this case making this suited human look like it's bigger than what Bob Hieronimus would normally look, seeing that he was a pretty big proportioned person to begin with
The footsteps were 48 inches apart. No man on earth can step this far and keep walking. The arms from sholder to elbow is long than any man on earth. Also the foot prints were made by someone who weighed 500 lb. or more. I have seen all of Bob H testimony and he is just a poor old man look out to earn a buck. I know that Bigfoot is real because what has happen to me in the back country of the Sierra Nevada’s.
Are they the George Lucas's of Bigfoot filming ? Because really, thats what they would have to be. But still, it is possible this is a fake. Its always gonna be possible. The best evidence to me is that there are so many reports and sightings. Either thousands are full of crap, or BF is out there. If even one case is legit, then that wipes out a million liars or idiots.
Its impossible to know wether this is legit or not. Only thing you can do is try to debunk it and so far nobody has been able to do that. I myself lean on the side of Bigfoot's existence, wether this film is real or not. But hey I could be wrong. One things for sure, that suit is pretty damn good for how long ago that was if it was a suit.I question how dumb they can be if there are loose ends,yet how can they be so genius to take care of such detail filming it from so far ? Ahead of their time?
I really have no idea who flapjack is, gilbert. But I'm guessing the two Bobs had an argument somewhere along the line and a friendship went bad, that's when BH decided to tell his tall tales of wearing suits that never existed to make Gimlin look like a fool. In reality of course, it's BH looking like the fool and Gimlin always coming across in a truthful manner. I bet you this, if BH has any decency he'll one day admit he's not in any suit and made that up.
What r u stewpid or sumptin? You're expecting us to believe that Patterson rents a motion picture camera to film a Bigfoot & w/in a days time or so he goes out & finds a Bigfoot to film, while countless 100's of ppl have spent a wasted lifetime trying to do the same? If you replied "in a truthful manner" and had "any decency" you'll "admit he's in" a "suit and" didn't make "that up". BTW the camera's owner had to sue Pattersojn to get his camera back !
@komodoman Rob Stein, an expert on hoaxes & trick photography, argues that the creature's apparent size is due to a photographic trick called forced perspective, a special effect used to make film characters look larger than usual, compared to their surroundings by not having any human form in the frame for size reference. Stein : "Patterson set out to make a Bigfoot documentary& he immediately films a Bigfoot that was out in the open in bright, clear sunshine, perfect weather for filming?" :-)
gilly, there are not 'many scientists' saying it could be faked...who, please? None of those have had a closer look at the PGF, which unbias sources have. Their conclusion's clear; no signs of a haox anywhere in any frame of the film. These denying jokers are utter circus arena morons by now. lol
flapjack, this fella gilbert's one of those stubborn ones getting off on staying defiant even when faced with facts, they'll still say it's fake because that's what they're taught to believe. Sense about anatomy or f/x can't change them, won't happen because once you think Bigfoot's not real to begin with how can the film not be fake... That's the mindset there. This hoax crap's all about a friendship gone sour; Bob vs. Bob.
I'm stubborn? No, i offer up non-idiotic rational adult conversation and try counter with facts, which is ironic since your friend flapjack is an absolutely sad child who likes to PM people and then block them before getting a response, we weren't even arguing either, haha. Seems a common occurance among bigfoot believers, such a sad way to live.
@GilbertSyndrome Greg Long interviewed ppl who described Patterson as a liar, a conman & sometimes worse. Pat Mason, Glen Koelling, Bob Swanson & Vilma Radford claimed Patterson never repaid loans they made to him for a bigfoot movie. Records show that Bob Gimlin sued DeAtley & Patterson's widow Patricia in 75' (Non-payment of film proceeds) Radford had corroborative evidence: A $700 promissory note "for expenses in connection w/filming of 'Bigfoot: Americas Abominable Snowman.
Yeah, gary, so what if Roger went to Hollywood...it's no secret he wanted to make a Bigfoot movie...the thing he never dreamed though came true... You think it's strange, I don't, not when the creatures exist which means they were/are out there... But I'm getting really tired of calling them creatures, I'm pretty damn sure they're more human than many would probably like to find out...
Greg Long interviewed one of the riders that were there with Patterson. I cant remember his name its been a while since I read the book ( The Making Of Bigfoot ).He said that Bigfoot showed up one night on his driveway and his dog started attacking him, this was BEFORE the footage was taken. Ive been to Yakima, WA a few times its high desert up there very little trees or forest its definatly not a home for a creature the size of Bigfoot. Also Patterson went to Hollywood 2 or 3 times BEFORE film.
Hey retards, think about it Bigfoot only started getting popular in the area when Patterson said he wanted to go hunt the creature. He went to Hollywood many times ( why). Also why is it that Gimlin and Patterson's wife dont want to talk about it, its because theirs money still to be made in this hoax, think about. And I guess Phillip Morris is a big lire as well right. After all these years of Bigfoot hunting the best evidence we have so far is blurry videos and pictures, give me a break.
@gary6599 No, Bigfoot started getting popular in the late 50's when loggers started finding footprints in CA. G&P went to Disney shortly after they shot the video and asked if they had any costume experts if they could reproduce what was seen in the film- they couldn't !!
They claim they went to disney, they never named any of those experts from the studio, also, Disney at that time drew Mickey Mouse and Goofy, course they wouldn't be able to make a bigfoot outfit.
@GilbertSyndrome I was thinking of a different Bob H. (the radio host). I found out that Bob H and his buddies are all hoaxsters themselves, including Karl Korff, who is a notorious delusional psychotic. If you believe these guys because "Bob H. said so" you'll believe just about anything.
Bob H. isn't friends with Korff, who are his buddies? Korff may have interviewed him but they're not friends, Bob was and still is friends with Patricia, Rogers widow and Gimlins wife, he live 9 houses away from Gimlin. I could say the same about you if you believe anything Roger and Gimlin say.
@GilbertSyndrome Yea, and I'm sure that Bob H. had access to the most incredible gorilla suit ever made- one that can't even be matched today- gimme a break!! Look at the arch of the back- it's not a man in a suit!! Wake up dude!
I have that on DVD, what are you referring to in particular from that show? How do you know it can't be matched today? Who has tried to match it? Whats so suprising about not being able to accurately recreate a suit you can only see from an angle, form a distance of 30 feet, on an old kodachrome for less than 40 seconds? Bob never made the suit and never claimed to have made it.
@GilbertSyndrome It can't be matched today because those scientists that have researched it in the documentary came to that conclusion. Have you ever seen a monkey/gorialla suit in any movie that was as good as that one? Nope.
Bob Heironimous was in Pattersons fictional film based on his book, so was his brother Howard Heironimous. Gimlin even rode Bobs horse at Bluff creek, they were close friends and Bob and Gimlin still live 9 houses away from eachother.
I can't even believe that you'd have the gall to PM me and then block me before waiting for a response. I spent a good 20mins replying in detail to your messages only to find that you'd blocked me, is that what you do in life then? Run away from opposition? You've proved your cowardice there kid, you really have, a tunnel visioned child who won't let anyone oppose his sad belief. Good luck in life kid, you'll need it.
@GilbertSyndrome Patterson's expensive 16 mm camera had been rented on May 13, but he had kept it longer & an arrest warrant had been issued for him on Oct. 17. Charge dismissed after Patterson returned the camera. Patterson sold overlapping distribution rights for the film to several parties, which resulted in costly legal entanglements. Gimlin had avoided publicity after Patterson & promoter Al DeAtley had broken their agreement to pay Gimlin a share of any profits generated by the film.
@flapjack9999 The Gimlin and Patterson definitely aren't "friends" with Bob H., not after he made his claim that he was the main in the suit. They know that Bob H. is a big liar. Bob Gimlin still says that today.
Gimlin has never claimed that Heironimus is a liar, can you show me an interview where it says that? Patterson was a close friend of Bobs, and was til he died in '72. So, you're asking me to wake up but you're telling me that the suit can't be matched because soome scientists said so? Meldrum said it couldn't be recreated, so did Krantz, are you ignoring the many other scientists who said it could be faked?
He doesn't even have a reputation to start with so the reason might be found there, he simply wanted a little bit of fame. So no interest other than the free ride is appears to be, to jump on the PGF bandwagon. In the end though, they'll all be sorry when these critters turn out to be real, basically the main reason for claiming this and that in terms of hoax is a disbelief in the Bigfoot's existence to begin with. Hence, a free ride - or so they think. Only deniers fake and buy the fake claim.
Why would Bob Hieronimus lie about this? What was his motive and why would he risk is reputation? I don't necessarily believe he told the truth; I'd just like to know how it was in his interest to lie about his involvement in this.
Heh, could very well be, too bad only real nutjobs believe him. There are dark forces out there not interested in the truth coming out, so better keep the fake flame of PGF lies going...
Where is the damn suit? Where is the damn Bigfoot should be the question! 42 years later, no one has caught one, there's no Bigfoot roadkill, no one's ever gotten a really good video of one with the millions of camcorders there are out there. That's the REAL question... Where is the the damn Bigfoot?
@goodtrick Why would he have the suit? It wasn't his; it was Patterson's. Where's your pay stub from your first job? Don't have it? Well, then, you must never worked it!
@BastiaanV2 Yep...and he looks SO convincing in the suit that we are only allowed a montage of stills of him walking in it...(This of course makes it impossible to do a shot by shot comparison of him vs the original footage)..have you seen his laughable 'Bob Heronimus walks in a bigfoot suit" clips here on YT?? They are a riot!!!
Good point. 'Fantastic' legends are very easy to accept are just fakes, and Bigfoot's no different to most Joes out there. They simply don't understand it, so buying a 'confession' (in this case a self-promoting lie) is convenient and welcome. I'm not saying the confessions regarding Nessie's surgeon pic and the girls' fairy pics, necessarily aren't true, but they're also a perfect example of how effortlessly it is to simply buy something when proof lacks. Same with PGF, merely assumptions.
Bob Heironimus has maid substantial amounts of money doing nothing more than saying he was in a bigfoot custume.Check out more about this guy and find out yourself why he would want to say that it was him.I would also suggest to check out the muscle flexation of the "bigfoot" as well as the shoulder to elbow,elbow to wrist measurements compared to Bob Heironus'
No chance, deiter, she just worked with David Paulides on new improved PGF images, last I heard they're supposed to be quite stunning. But like I said to Allen, we'll see...
We don't care about Blobby's tests, many murderers have passed them as well and many innocent people have failed. Unreliable. Your dorks still need the only the thing that'll ever prove it a hoax; the suit. No word from Roger's widow's gonne change that, and she's not gonna say it anyway. Dreamers, you're in total denial.
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I don't get the big freaking deal about this guy. ANYBODY could have said he was the man in the "suit". What makes this guy so special? Why is everyone so quick to believe him and not ask the questions that need asking?
i.e. "Gait, Mechanics, Mass, Morphology?"
Bob says it was him, and everyone believes it. That's not science. That's bullshit.
In all the years that have passed since this film was shot, you would think we could find at least one Bigfoot as considerate as the one appearing in the Patterson film. Personally, I think such a creature could exist, but this is not absolute proof.
One time I wore a squirrel costume for a children's science fair. It was certainly not an expensive get-up, but regular movement was difficult. When you're in a costume, you just don't--and can't-- move in a regular fashion.
Yep, and the skeptics know this so they don't even bother, they really show their lameness when they compare Patty to the POTA apes, saying naive shit like 'they blow Patty away!'. Newsflash children, they were fully clothed only masks and hands. lmfao...!
The only way someone could duplicate the Patterson creature today is to spend a million dollars on the best Hollywood creature effects monkey suit.. . Why don't National Geographics sponsor Bob to make the Patty monkey suit to prove that? Remember that Patterson's video was made over 40 years ago and it made Hollywood monkey suits look silly at that time!
You're right, an animal would likely run, however these creatures would appear (if they exist at all) to be - dare I say - 'people'. Much of their behavior is reported as humanlike, and this specimen did the right thing for herself at the time, by not running she actually controlled what was going in - had she run, the two men might've reacted differently (run after her). They also came to shoot only with film, not bullets.
A red flag for me is that I can't think of any animal or creature that wouldn't run when startled by two men on horses. Walk away slow? A bear, fox, deer, ape or any other creature would run!
It's amazing to me how so many people find it easier to believe in something so fantastic and find it difficult to believe something so logical and probable
Good point, the guy's obiviosly making all this up, even he himself falls for the suit claim - it's obviously not a full body suit, but if suit at all, glued on hairs individually. BlobH though, says he just got to the site and put on the suit, and walked in front of the camera. How fortunate 'the hoaxers' just happened to know a guy with an 'ape gait'. -The same typical primate gait always/often mentioned by witnesses. The only hoax here, is the claim of one!
We could infer that by watching the actual footage. We all know he fell, that itf it was a person, they would be given a signal, and that it walked and turned.
Wait a second. I don't understand. He said he was waiting for a bullet to hit him in the butt. Was Bob G. and Roger not in on this if what Bob H. said is true? And also, if they weren't in on it, then why would he risk getting killed?
I'm interested in was Heirmonimus has said about the filming of that day. If anybody has any links to lie detector results, and interviews, then please send them my way via comment or message.
You're an idiot. I'm interested in the subject, you moron, you're merely here to bring the whole field down - who's the troll now then...? emin is, or heather, or any of his other trolling YT accounts. Don't you know it's regarded asd not very serious to have multiple accounts?
The only reason the likes of emin are here, as far as I can see, is some deep rooted desire to prove other people wrong. I suppose it stems from a lack in their own lives, otherwise, why do it? A desire to 'be right', to feel better than others, to boast. But without hard concrete physical evidence he, or anyone else, will never ever prove it's a hoax. Never. Period. It bothers him, really bugs him. There's no genuine interest in Bigfoot, it's merely a personal crusade.
Heironimus said that he did a test walk in the suit so Patterson could show him how he wanted him to look back, not run, appear ape-ish - all of that.
Patterson had been trying both with rental suits and I'm sure with his own creations prior to Patty. Once he (and probably DeAtley) messed around with the image until the flaws appeared to be hidden, they knew they had something that would fool the average person.
Then it's time to lose that original negative for good! LOL
Heather (or whoever you are) I have offered to give you a place to post your evidence on the MABRC forums, to disprove the PGF is real, you haven't accepted that offer, or even acknowledged it, I think you are only here to cause discontent about things. If you have the information you claim (not just Greg Long's book either) then accept the offer and post it all and I will link to it for everyone to see here. Otherwise, go take your toys and go home.
O WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT U U CAN TALK ABOUT A RETARDED HOAX ALL U WANT BUT SHIT I WANNA C MORE OF THIS BIG 8 FOOTED HAIRY SON-OF-A-BITCH THAT ALL I WANNA C ON THE COMMENTS FUCK THE HOAX THIS GUYS EVERYWHERE ON HERE HES FAMOUS n the 3 of u ......... heathers emin and dragonfucker are jus fighting on these videos which is pretty lame the more u fight on here the more of a low lifed loser u are thats all im sayin i dont wanna try n build up ur easily lit fire here cuz im not like u pCe Out
If this is fake, and Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin were in on it, why was Bonehead Bob expecting a bullet in his butt. Also, why after so long is he ready to admit this. I mean, Roger died in 1972. Shouldn't he have come forward then?? I think he is lying and is just trying to sell his book.
Roger didn't come forward because the whole point of the hoax was to make MONEY. He said he wanted to leave something for his wife. He did. She is still making money off it now. Confessing to the hoax would have defeated the reason for creating it to start with.
Bob H never came forward until now because he was afraid of being indicted in any legal intanglements due to his part in of the hoax. This changed when he saw the FOX TV special and decided it was time for you guys to know the truth.
Yeah, maybe if you ignore facts the rest of your life, it will all go away. That's the ticket. I mean it's not like there's ever been once single shred of evidence to prove BigFoot exists....Keep on believing man. Evidence is for losers.
You're right! But you know what? He doesn't need to wear a Bozo costume to convince most of us that he is what he appears to be--a big, fat lying clown!
-as long as you don't attack us". That would also explain the 1K payment; A little high for just helping a friend in '67. We need to get these guys on Coast to Coast AM for a nice long interview.
I hate to call someone a liar, but either him or Bob H. are lying. Gimlin sounds credible enough, but that alone is no guarantee. I've learned that one the hard way.
No, they wouldn't have taken that chance...you're right there. I was just thinking though, I wish we could just sit down and talk with these guys. Maybe thats what Bob H. was talking about with the bullet through the butt comment...Gimlin with his 30-06. What if Patterson assured him "Gimlin definitly won't shoot you-
Pnutbutrncrackers, Yea, I do believe him. I think he would have spoke up a long time ago if he were lying. Some say he changed his story; I don't know, but I have known people - desperate to be believed - to change things around. I'm not saying he's the sharpest knife in the drawer. I think the film was hoaxed, Patterson new Bob H., He's from same area, others (supposedly) have stated they saw the suit in Bob's car and well, I don't have room to list all reasons but combined, I think it was him
It's the exact opposite. Bob would have spoke up a long time ago if his story were true. He claims he did not get his 1000 dollar payment for wearing the suit. Any halfway decent lawyer could have gotten his payment from the Patterson estate way back in the 70s. Also, 1000 dollars? Come on, in the 60s? 1000 dollars just to wear a gorilla suit for a friend? That's equal to almost 10,000 dollars now. Sorry, Bob's story just doesn't ring true. He's being paid by Greg Long to support his book.
Splatter, as I mentioned below, have you considered the 'Gimlin factor'? If it were a hoax, Gimlin would almost have to have been in on it, since he was toting a rifle and might well have decided to "crack a bullet through his butt" if he didn't know it was Heironimus in costume. You gonna tell me they'd take that chance?
On the other hand, I've listened to Gimlin, have you? I assume you must believe him to be a consummate liar?
"I got out there and waited, and he gave me the signal . . . "
So I guess Bob Gimlin is a bald-faced liar too, right?
And btw, if Heironimus was worried about a hunter firing down on him, why would he think the bullet would "crack his butt" -- the worst possible place for a shot to be aimed?!
Well lookm what was discovered in the past week. This is an phrase copied from the news:
"Conservationists on Tuesday announced the discovery of 14 species probably new to science — among them a legless lizard and a tiny woodpecker"
Yes a far cry from a sasquatch, but just realize it possible and probable that if they do exist, one will be captured or killed as man pushes towns and cities into the once never explored wilderness.
I'm quite sure there are many false reports made of sightings. Does one really think that every report around the world is a fake? That would be a pretty big hoax. Remember this you non-believers, it wasn't long ago that the mountain gorilla was thought to be nothing more than a myth.
John Green has about 4,000 sightings in his massive files...The skeptics believe that every single footprint and every sighting in the last 250 years, as well as the Indian legends are baseless...Most skeptics will tell you there is no such thing...when you ask them what they have read on the subject, you can rest assured it's nothing...How do they form such a rock solid opinion when they know nothinmg about the subject?
The National Geographic producer told Dr. Jeff Meldrum that Morris' and Heironimus' "re-enactment" clearly had nothing to do with the Patterson film. I think I'll trust a National Geographic producer over a retired Pepsi bottler!
"The old bigfoot look", you can tell they had to expertly edit and splice Bob Erroneous' inane, whimsical comments in order to convey a semblance of coherence.
In fact SO MUCH evidence that Bigfoot exists, a pair of concrete overshoes could be made for his BIGFEET. It is my understanding that before Bob starred in the Patterson Bigfoot film he was a regular stand in as the Tooth Fairy. At least no one questioned his participation in that role. You really should quit being antagonistic or do some research before you make assinine comments about something you obviously know nothing about.
Where was this Bob Herroneous when Patterson was alive? I think Bob realized he could make a nice chunk of change by offering a phoney confession. But of course, he had to wait until Patterson was dead, so it couldn't be disputed.
Oh yes, and we should be finding the bigfoot bones any day now, huh?! Or are you one of those who think bigfoot exists in another dimension and only visits our world every once in a while?
What kind of smart ass fukwitt r u prick...U seem to know alot about it dickhead....FUKIN NO ALL NO nothing...id put u in another dimension idiot....u cant put a post on this fukin utube without a fuckwitt like this big noting it self...FUCKOFF AND DIE BITCH.!!!!
he said 'all this time waiting for a bullet' meansing it was hunting season and that he was scared some hunter might take a shot at him. not the people filming it
Why was he waiting for a bullet to hit him? Was Gimlin not in on this? He is a brave man to do this then, cuz Gimlin was armed!! Hieronimus claims that he is wearing a football helmet with a mask attached to it!! No shit! A football helmet! HAHAHA! That is rich....football helmet. Anyone believe that the head that looks our way is a football helmet, stand up and be counted a moron!!!!!
Bob is a DAMN LIAR!!!!
jimmydcap 4 days ago 2
You must be blind then, the PGF is indeed showing a real Sasquatch proven so after much hard examination by scientists worldwide, thus proving the jealous Hollywood nerds wrong.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
If that film proves anything to anyone, they must be high !!
Ironbumm 2 weeks ago
you dumb fuckers will believe anything ....his gate is what sells it...its a hoax made on an old camera...nothing more... except your over active imagination theres nothing real here
bozo47p 4 weeks ago
Why would you say waiting for a bullet to crack through my butt?
You know Phillip Morris could not have made that suit! He tried to
make one in the 70's with you in it Bob, but you failed big time!
poweroflance 1 month ago
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rockstarzep 3 months ago
No one was in there. The human anatomy won't allow for it. Patty's over 7ft, but wannabe debunkers say it's some 6ft guy, but that's not possible since the legs are seen in full view. -Not only do they not look like the guy (BobH), but the upper body's much longer than his typical human torso, so how can it be him. Can't, not big enough. BF anatomy's basically the opposite of human, more apelike. There is zero way for a guy to operate inside anything looking like this, he can't reach either way.
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago 7
If it was a suit the where is it? Until somebody produces it then I'll beleive it's a fake. Also there was some one else who said they were in the suit. What were 2 people in there?
MrGregster17 5 months ago
If you watch the Planet of the Apes movies you'll notice the apes are always wearing clothes because the guy who did the costumes could not get the muscle movement under the fur.He realized it looked ridiculous.If a top special effects guy in Hollywood could not make an authentic looking suit then what makes you think these two bozos could do it.
Motorsash 5 months ago
@Motorsash WRONG! They clothed them for budgetary reasons. And that's not a quadricep muscle, it's cheap fur folded over on a cheap costume that people insist on pretending is actual animal muscle. Please, for future reference, why not actually see what special effects people said about the costume, like Rick Baker, Stan Winston, and Bob Burns. This suit is laughable by the best in hollywood, and Chambers only told people he didn't make the costume, not that he couldn't.
19nisey69 1 month ago
Phillip Morris has the suit. I have touched it.
Just because this footage is faked, don't mean there is no bigfoot!
therealcrazyfish 7 months ago
@therealcrazyfish You must be joking. The suit looks absolutely nothing like the subject in the footage. Have you actually watched the footage?
jkgr33 6 months ago 3
@jkgr33 ...what are you an idiot ?...look at his gate in comparison....its fake... thats bob in a bigfoot suit plain and simple...think and reason!
bozo47p 4 weeks ago
He gave him "you know, the old bigfoot look and looked at him" Sounds like a bunch of crap to me
jimmypete1 7 months ago
What is harder to believe, that two men go out searching for evidence of Bigfoot and and suddenly happen across a large primate ambling across a creek or that the whole thing was carefully staged managed with Bob H in a monkey suit? Given Bob H's testimony and the highly improbable circumstances, one can only conclude that the patty footage was likely faked. Having said that, that does not explain the wealth of other credible bigfoot evidence going back many years. This case is not closed.
fastwalker100 8 months ago
@fastwalker100
Roger Patterson was out looking for bigfoot for the best part of 1967. He didn't go out for just one day and bump straight into one. He was in the Bluff Creek area for 3 straight weeks riding daily up the creeks on horseback. He also went down to Bluff Creek because multiple track fins had been reported in the nearby area just a few weeks before.
People complain when folks looking for bigfoot never find them but then when one DOES find a bigfoot these people still complain.
LaughingGravy31 7 months ago 4
@fastwalker100 I'm skeptical as well, but there's simply no way this guy is the guy in the suit - and the "suit" displayed looked virtually nothing like what we see here. Not to mention the musculature, which in 1967 would have been nigh impossible to even approximate- this thing is clearly massively built, and Bob is NOT a massive man at all. It remains the only video I have seen where it's not immediately obvious as a guy in a suit-it is ALWAYS obvious to me when it is...this one, idk...
sonbuhitsunei 5 months ago
If we put aside debates over the film's validity, what about the native Indians to the Columbia Valley who've never been in contact with a primate, therefore could not know what its features are, yet adorned their pottery, sculpted their art and painted countless obvious ape-like images. They have seen something like it, and did not travel to regions that have primates of any kind. This in and of itself is serious evidence that should be more discussed.
michaelaffatato 9 months ago
So he just nonchalantly wandered away while he was "waiting for a bullet" to end up "in his butt." Stupid twat,
Triipticz 9 months ago
I believe too many people are lacking objectivity when lots of evidence; from Patterson rarely holding a job; wrote a book he was promoting and we all know that Heronimous, Patterson and Gimlim knew each other...the pics in the below book prove it...and Patterson and Gimblin used Bob H.s horses..and they just happened to go out and catch on film footage something never before or after (with Pattersons unsavory character)....how convenient....I don't buy it...it stinks of self promotion.
1927Norma 10 months ago
Keep in mind Bob H. his elderly mother and cousin confirmed it..his mother saw the suit in the trunk of the car and was frightened...she acknoweledge this in her 80s for the interview for the book interivew the "MAKINGING OF BIGFOOT" and his cousin put the head piece on and ran around with it..(as a child) and he still confirmed he did that.to this day..MK Davis unintentionally confirmed the fake....google MK Davis bigfoot and in head section a weird recltion occurs ..Bob had a glass right eye
1927Norma 10 months ago
Bob didn't play Bigfoot... I did :)
Jimpan0096 1 year ago
"all this time,ya know, waiting for a bullet to crack me in the butt". If Bob H., Patterson, and Gimlin set this up together than why would Bob worry about taking a bullet in the rear? Moreover, would he have taken a bullet just to get this footage? I seriously doubt it, and I don't think Gimlin was gonna shoot him. Hunters around? Maybe. Bob's comment about getting shot is puzzling.
smimot 1 year ago
@smimot not taking Bob H's side here/ just stating- it was hunting season, and i think his remark about catching a bullet, was his thinking of the possibility that there could have been other hunters around, who seeing him walking across that creek bed, might have taken a shot thinking he was a bear or ??? That's the way I took it. Gimlin has stated that it was hunting season as well too. so... ok that's it, hope this helped...?
artsmith1972 10 months ago
@artsmith1972 , thank you for the comment. Whats your thought on the video? If you don't mind. G'day.
smimot 10 months ago
@smimot Boy... that's a toughy... I guess I lean more towards it being real, but i have reservations. I'd like to say I dont believe Bob H, but between him and Gimlin- Bob H has (ive heard) taken two polygraphs and passed, and doesnt seem to shy away from discussing it with even those who vehemently disagree w/ him. Gimlin on the other hand is very elusive and wont discuss Bob H's claims... that is troubling to me. The film itself is very compelling to me...
artsmith1972 10 months ago
@artsmith1972,here's my view. The PGF was shown to the world. Shows a bipedal creature. Debunkers raved but can't conclusively prove it's fake, only verbally. The pro-bigfoot group has "evidence" on film that is so compelling that I want to believe that it exists, yet I remain cautious. Not out of being called a fool or such. Names have never left any scars on me. The truth will only be manifest when, if, a flesh and blood specimen is brought forth, studied, and scientifically declared unknown.
smimot 10 months ago
@artsmith1972 , I know I sound like I'm straddling the fence but I can't think of any other way to prove or dis-prove the bigfoot mystery. I've had my own experience with this issue. Real animal or elaborate hoax? Wish I knew.
smimot 10 months ago
@artsmith1972 , meant to say- debunkers raved but couldn't conclusively prove the PGF was fake, only verbal denial.
smimot 10 months ago
Luckily opinions are free. But there was no suit since the anatomy is nonhuman and unreachable, arms, torso, muscles...people should snap out of this idea that Hollywood - or botox - can fix all your problems and issues... Not the case.
komodoman 1 year ago
I believe in Bigfoot...too many reports going back too many years for there not to be "something" to it! But i am convinced that the Patterson/Gimlin footage is a fake. It's Bob Heronimous in a suit...in my opinion. When it turns to look back the midsection seems to twist like a 2 piece suit would...the tracks it left were deeper in the ground than a man on horseback(it was NOT that heavy, the tracks were planted). And what settled it for me was Gimlin's lack of response to the allegations.
randy28777 1 year ago
@narfanoid "Forced perspective conjecture"
"Forced perspective" is not classified as "conjecture" in any technical photographic sense of the word(s). It means the leaving out of any human, animate or inanimate objects in the film or photo in which to make a photogrammetric comparision with, to determine it's true size. In this case making this suited human look like it's bigger than what Bob Hieronimus would normally look, seeing that he was a pretty big proportioned person to begin with
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
he's telling the truth
bloodykilljoy84 1 year ago
The footsteps were 48 inches apart. No man on earth can step this far and keep walking. The arms from sholder to elbow is long than any man on earth. Also the foot prints were made by someone who weighed 500 lb. or more. I have seen all of Bob H testimony and he is just a poor old man look out to earn a buck. I know that Bigfoot is real because what has happen to me in the back country of the Sierra Nevada’s.
husky500cr 1 year ago
@husky500cr What happened in the back country of the Sierra Nevada's man?
jkgr33 6 months ago
of he did.. wants to make it hot again..
masterod1 1 year ago
Are they the George Lucas's of Bigfoot filming ? Because really, thats what they would have to be. But still, it is possible this is a fake. Its always gonna be possible. The best evidence to me is that there are so many reports and sightings. Either thousands are full of crap, or BF is out there. If even one case is legit, then that wipes out a million liars or idiots.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Its impossible to know wether this is legit or not. Only thing you can do is try to debunk it and so far nobody has been able to do that. I myself lean on the side of Bigfoot's existence, wether this film is real or not. But hey I could be wrong. One things for sure, that suit is pretty damn good for how long ago that was if it was a suit.I question how dumb they can be if there are loose ends,yet how can they be so genius to take care of such detail filming it from so far ? Ahead of their time?
tjcurrie 1 year ago
I would love they never find bigfoot ,if they found him they would to terifick experiments on him...
So il say this video of bigfoot is fake for the bigfoots safety and so should all of you
Just in case he is real
NoMoreLiesAboutMe 1 year ago
it did't turn around and chase him. so putting fear aside... why didn't he hold the camera down and chase it down to get a closer look?
Criticmizer 1 year ago
He dosen't even know want to say.
thepatsnumber1fan 1 year ago
I really have no idea who flapjack is, gilbert. But I'm guessing the two Bobs had an argument somewhere along the line and a friendship went bad, that's when BH decided to tell his tall tales of wearing suits that never existed to make Gimlin look like a fool. In reality of course, it's BH looking like the fool and Gimlin always coming across in a truthful manner. I bet you this, if BH has any decency he'll one day admit he's not in any suit and made that up.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman "I bet you this"
What r u stewpid or sumptin? You're expecting us to believe that Patterson rents a motion picture camera to film a Bigfoot & w/in a days time or so he goes out & finds a Bigfoot to film, while countless 100's of ppl have spent a wasted lifetime trying to do the same? If you replied "in a truthful manner" and had "any decency" you'll "admit he's in" a "suit and" didn't make "that up". BTW the camera's owner had to sue Pattersojn to get his camera back !
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
@komodoman Rob Stein, an expert on hoaxes & trick photography, argues that the creature's apparent size is due to a photographic trick called forced perspective, a special effect used to make film characters look larger than usual, compared to their surroundings by not having any human form in the frame for size reference. Stein : "Patterson set out to make a Bigfoot documentary& he immediately films a Bigfoot that was out in the open in bright, clear sunshine, perfect weather for filming?" :-)
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
@cdddraftsman Forced perspective is conjecture. Besides, others who have done "the walk" in similar settings don't have the same oversized look.
narfanoid 1 year ago
gilly, there are not 'many scientists' saying it could be faked...who, please? None of those have had a closer look at the PGF, which unbias sources have. Their conclusion's clear; no signs of a haox anywhere in any frame of the film. These denying jokers are utter circus arena morons by now. lol
komodoman 1 year ago
flapjack, this fella gilbert's one of those stubborn ones getting off on staying defiant even when faced with facts, they'll still say it's fake because that's what they're taught to believe. Sense about anatomy or f/x can't change them, won't happen because once you think Bigfoot's not real to begin with how can the film not be fake... That's the mindset there. This hoax crap's all about a friendship gone sour; Bob vs. Bob.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman
I'm stubborn? No, i offer up non-idiotic rational adult conversation and try counter with facts, which is ironic since your friend flapjack is an absolutely sad child who likes to PM people and then block them before getting a response, we weren't even arguing either, haha. Seems a common occurance among bigfoot believers, such a sad way to live.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Greg Long interviewed ppl who described Patterson as a liar, a conman & sometimes worse. Pat Mason, Glen Koelling, Bob Swanson & Vilma Radford claimed Patterson never repaid loans they made to him for a bigfoot movie. Records show that Bob Gimlin sued DeAtley & Patterson's widow Patricia in 75' (Non-payment of film proceeds) Radford had corroborative evidence: A $700 promissory note "for expenses in connection w/filming of 'Bigfoot: Americas Abominable Snowman.
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
Yeah, gary, so what if Roger went to Hollywood...it's no secret he wanted to make a Bigfoot movie...the thing he never dreamed though came true... You think it's strange, I don't, not when the creatures exist which means they were/are out there... But I'm getting really tired of calling them creatures, I'm pretty damn sure they're more human than many would probably like to find out...
komodoman 1 year ago
Greg Long interviewed one of the riders that were there with Patterson. I cant remember his name its been a while since I read the book ( The Making Of Bigfoot ).He said that Bigfoot showed up one night on his driveway and his dog started attacking him, this was BEFORE the footage was taken. Ive been to Yakima, WA a few times its high desert up there very little trees or forest its definatly not a home for a creature the size of Bigfoot. Also Patterson went to Hollywood 2 or 3 times BEFORE film.
gary6599 1 year ago
That's not Bob H. talking.
flapjack9999 1 year ago
Hey retards, think about it Bigfoot only started getting popular in the area when Patterson said he wanted to go hunt the creature. He went to Hollywood many times ( why). Also why is it that Gimlin and Patterson's wife dont want to talk about it, its because theirs money still to be made in this hoax, think about. And I guess Phillip Morris is a big lire as well right. After all these years of Bigfoot hunting the best evidence we have so far is blurry videos and pictures, give me a break.
gary6599 1 year ago
@gary6599 No, Bigfoot started getting popular in the late 50's when loggers started finding footprints in CA. G&P went to Disney shortly after they shot the video and asked if they had any costume experts if they could reproduce what was seen in the film- they couldn't !!
flapjack9999 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
They claim they went to disney, they never named any of those experts from the studio, also, Disney at that time drew Mickey Mouse and Goofy, course they wouldn't be able to make a bigfoot outfit.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome I was thinking of a different Bob H. (the radio host). I found out that Bob H and his buddies are all hoaxsters themselves, including Karl Korff, who is a notorious delusional psychotic. If you believe these guys because "Bob H. said so" you'll believe just about anything.
flapjack9999 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
Bob H. isn't friends with Korff, who are his buddies? Korff may have interviewed him but they're not friends, Bob was and still is friends with Patricia, Rogers widow and Gimlins wife, he live 9 houses away from Gimlin. I could say the same about you if you believe anything Roger and Gimlin say.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Yea, and I'm sure that Bob H. had access to the most incredible gorilla suit ever made- one that can't even be matched today- gimme a break!! Look at the arch of the back- it's not a man in a suit!! Wake up dude!
flapjack9999 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
I have that on DVD, what are you referring to in particular from that show? How do you know it can't be matched today? Who has tried to match it? Whats so suprising about not being able to accurately recreate a suit you can only see from an angle, form a distance of 30 feet, on an old kodachrome for less than 40 seconds? Bob never made the suit and never claimed to have made it.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome It can't be matched today because those scientists that have researched it in the documentary came to that conclusion. Have you ever seen a monkey/gorialla suit in any movie that was as good as that one? Nope.
flapjack9999 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
Bob Heironimous was in Pattersons fictional film based on his book, so was his brother Howard Heironimous. Gimlin even rode Bobs horse at Bluff creek, they were close friends and Bob and Gimlin still live 9 houses away from eachother.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
I can't even believe that you'd have the gall to PM me and then block me before waiting for a response. I spent a good 20mins replying in detail to your messages only to find that you'd blocked me, is that what you do in life then? Run away from opposition? You've proved your cowardice there kid, you really have, a tunnel visioned child who won't let anyone oppose his sad belief. Good luck in life kid, you'll need it.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Patterson's expensive 16 mm camera had been rented on May 13, but he had kept it longer & an arrest warrant had been issued for him on Oct. 17. Charge dismissed after Patterson returned the camera. Patterson sold overlapping distribution rights for the film to several parties, which resulted in costly legal entanglements. Gimlin had avoided publicity after Patterson & promoter Al DeAtley had broken their agreement to pay Gimlin a share of any profits generated by the film.
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
@flapjack9999 The Gimlin and Patterson definitely aren't "friends" with Bob H., not after he made his claim that he was the main in the suit. They know that Bob H. is a big liar. Bob Gimlin still says that today.
flapjack9999 1 year ago
@flapjack9999
Gimlin has never claimed that Heironimus is a liar, can you show me an interview where it says that? Patterson was a close friend of Bobs, and was til he died in '72. So, you're asking me to wake up but you're telling me that the suit can't be matched because soome scientists said so? Meldrum said it couldn't be recreated, so did Krantz, are you ignoring the many other scientists who said it could be faked?
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Maybe you should watch the Bigfoot: Legend Meets Science documentary here on YouTube.
flapjack9999 1 year ago
Bob H. is what, not even 5'5?? His body type is rather small as well.
flapjack9999 1 year ago 2
@flapjack9999
Bob H. is 6 foot.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
Yep - based on real living creatures among them...
komodoman 2 years ago
Bigfoot, Yeti, Yowie, all stories made up to frighten children or con the gullible.
wjpollock 2 years ago
He doesn't even have a reputation to start with so the reason might be found there, he simply wanted a little bit of fame. So no interest other than the free ride is appears to be, to jump on the PGF bandwagon. In the end though, they'll all be sorry when these critters turn out to be real, basically the main reason for claiming this and that in terms of hoax is a disbelief in the Bigfoot's existence to begin with. Hence, a free ride - or so they think. Only deniers fake and buy the fake claim.
komodoman 2 years ago
Why would Bob Hieronimus lie about this? What was his motive and why would he risk is reputation? I don't necessarily believe he told the truth; I'd just like to know how it was in his interest to lie about his involvement in this.
mbw5 2 years ago
Hiding.
komodoman 2 years ago
Heh, could very well be, too bad only real nutjobs believe him. There are dark forces out there not interested in the truth coming out, so better keep the fake flame of PGF lies going...
komodoman 2 years ago
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slowrollRod 2 years ago
exactly, !!!!!!! where's the damn suit, the one he supposedly wore in 1967 !!!!!! hahahaha !!!!!
goodtrick 2 years ago 9
Where is the damn suit? Where is the damn Bigfoot should be the question! 42 years later, no one has caught one, there's no Bigfoot roadkill, no one's ever gotten a really good video of one with the millions of camcorders there are out there. That's the REAL question... Where is the the damn Bigfoot?
superbu1 2 years ago
@goodtrick Why would he have the suit? It wasn't his; it was Patterson's. Where's your pay stub from your first job? Don't have it? Well, then, you must never worked it!
superbu1 1 year ago
@goodtrick Acually, Ive seen this docu entirely. He showed the suit also.
BastiaanV2 7 months ago
@BastiaanV2 Yep...and he looks SO convincing in the suit that we are only allowed a montage of stills of him walking in it...(This of course makes it impossible to do a shot by shot comparison of him vs the original footage)..have you seen his laughable 'Bob Heronimus walks in a bigfoot suit" clips here on YT?? They are a riot!!!
joeyvader 6 months ago 5
Good point. 'Fantastic' legends are very easy to accept are just fakes, and Bigfoot's no different to most Joes out there. They simply don't understand it, so buying a 'confession' (in this case a self-promoting lie) is convenient and welcome. I'm not saying the confessions regarding Nessie's surgeon pic and the girls' fairy pics, necessarily aren't true, but they're also a perfect example of how effortlessly it is to simply buy something when proof lacks. Same with PGF, merely assumptions.
komodoman 2 years ago
ooops .Has made
plopnod 2 years ago
Bob Heironimus has maid substantial amounts of money doing nothing more than saying he was in a bigfoot custume.Check out more about this guy and find out yourself why he would want to say that it was him.I would also suggest to check out the muscle flexation of the "bigfoot" as well as the shoulder to elbow,elbow to wrist measurements compared to Bob Heironus'
plopnod 2 years ago 2
No chance, deiter, she just worked with David Paulides on new improved PGF images, last I heard they're supposed to be quite stunning. But like I said to Allen, we'll see...
komodoman 2 years ago
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tom biscardi knows this.
deiterkirkbride87 2 years ago
We don't care about Blobby's tests, many murderers have passed them as well and many innocent people have failed. Unreliable. Your dorks still need the only the thing that'll ever prove it a hoax; the suit. No word from Roger's widow's gonne change that, and she's not gonna say it anyway. Dreamers, you're in total denial.
komodoman 2 years ago
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sorry komodoman like it or not patricia patterson will confess.
deiterkirkbride87 2 years ago
Its really simple...get Bob H and P Morris to testify with a lie detector...
Progfan2970 2 years ago 4
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bob heironimus has PASSED 2 lie detector tests.
deiterkirkbride87 2 years ago
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bob. weres the suit you supposadly used in the walk? its never been shown to the world. bob you sad fake.
n72mxv 2 years ago
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darkwing - if they aren't already, these trolls ought to be sought out and blocked because they spam all Bigfoot videos/debates:
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komodoman 2 years ago
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Hi everyone, I'm Thomas 'Smiter' Hughes, you can hear me talk massive amounts of lies on blogtalkradio about how I have many bigfoot friends who I can talk to telepathically and share gifts with. In fact, I'm probably the biggest lying bullshitter on youtube by some margin. I spend all day every day trolling bigfoot youtube videos, trying to belittle people even though I'm actually the one with severe mental difficulties. Sorry for being such a retarded moronic dildo 0-)
SmiterI5I 2 years ago
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I don't get the big freaking deal about this guy. ANYBODY could have said he was the man in the "suit". What makes this guy so special? Why is everyone so quick to believe him and not ask the questions that need asking?
i.e. "Gait, Mechanics, Mass, Morphology?"
Bob says it was him, and everyone believes it. That's not science. That's bullshit.
MondoBone 2 years ago
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In all the years that have passed since this film was shot, you would think we could find at least one Bigfoot as considerate as the one appearing in the Patterson film. Personally, I think such a creature could exist, but this is not absolute proof.
One time I wore a squirrel costume for a children's science fair. It was certainly not an expensive get-up, but regular movement was difficult. When you're in a costume, you just don't--and can't-- move in a regular fashion.
tarantula700 2 years ago 9
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Yep, and the skeptics know this so they don't even bother, they really show their lameness when they compare Patty to the POTA apes, saying naive shit like 'they blow Patty away!'. Newsflash children, they were fully clothed only masks and hands. lmfao...!
komodoman 2 years ago 2
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The only way someone could duplicate the Patterson creature today is to spend a million dollars on the best Hollywood creature effects monkey suit.. . Why don't National Geographics sponsor Bob to make the Patty monkey suit to prove that? Remember that Patterson's video was made over 40 years ago and it made Hollywood monkey suits look silly at that time!
rehsab08 2 years ago 9
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You're right, an animal would likely run, however these creatures would appear (if they exist at all) to be - dare I say - 'people'. Much of their behavior is reported as humanlike, and this specimen did the right thing for herself at the time, by not running she actually controlled what was going in - had she run, the two men might've reacted differently (run after her). They also came to shoot only with film, not bullets.
komodoman 2 years ago
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A red flag for me is that I can't think of any animal or creature that wouldn't run when startled by two men on horses. Walk away slow? A bear, fox, deer, ape or any other creature would run!
Genesimmons8 2 years ago
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It's amazing to me how so many people find it easier to believe in something so fantastic and find it difficult to believe something so logical and probable
Jellogel 2 years ago 2
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Good point, the guy's obiviosly making all this up, even he himself falls for the suit claim - it's obviously not a full body suit, but if suit at all, glued on hairs individually. BlobH though, says he just got to the site and put on the suit, and walked in front of the camera. How fortunate 'the hoaxers' just happened to know a guy with an 'ape gait'. -The same typical primate gait always/often mentioned by witnesses. The only hoax here, is the claim of one!
komodoman 2 years ago
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"I turned and looked.. you know, the old Bigfoot look."
There wasn't any Bigfoot look before the Patterson film. So what is he refering to?
He's lying.
saxm 2 years ago 5
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We could infer that by watching the actual footage. We all know he fell, that itf it was a person, they would be given a signal, and that it walked and turned.
imsocool7222 2 years ago
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If he was on TV, he oviously made money! So THIS was the real set up. Probably wasn't hard to make up the story either!
Is this guy alive? I wanna talk to him so I can get these answers!!!
imsocool7222 2 years ago
wtf are you guys talking about lizards about for??? lets talk about something relevant.....BIGFOOT IS REAL AND WE MUST STOP HIM!!!!!!!
1324310 2 years ago
I found legless lizards way before 11 months ago... conservationists are a bit slow.
luckyboykurt 2 years ago
Wait a second. I don't understand. He said he was waiting for a bullet to hit him in the butt. Was Bob G. and Roger not in on this if what Bob H. said is true? And also, if they weren't in on it, then why would he risk getting killed?
I'm interested in was Heirmonimus has said about the filming of that day. If anybody has any links to lie detector results, and interviews, then please send them my way via comment or message.
MondoBone 3 years ago
He said that because he is full of shit and can't keep his story straight.
Poe397 3 years ago 2
You're an idiot. I'm interested in the subject, you moron, you're merely here to bring the whole field down - who's the troll now then...? emin is, or heather, or any of his other trolling YT accounts. Don't you know it's regarded asd not very serious to have multiple accounts?
komodoman 3 years ago
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See?
Again all komodoman does is throw out childish insults.
Why not throw out some information instead of the usual ad hominem attacks?
You're a troll, plain and simple.
heatherssss 3 years ago
The only reason the likes of emin are here, as far as I can see, is some deep rooted desire to prove other people wrong. I suppose it stems from a lack in their own lives, otherwise, why do it? A desire to 'be right', to feel better than others, to boast. But without hard concrete physical evidence he, or anyone else, will never ever prove it's a hoax. Never. Period. It bothers him, really bugs him. There's no genuine interest in Bigfoot, it's merely a personal crusade.
komodoman 3 years ago
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Heironimus said that he did a test walk in the suit so Patterson could show him how he wanted him to look back, not run, appear ape-ish - all of that.
Patterson had been trying both with rental suits and I'm sure with his own creations prior to Patty. Once he (and probably DeAtley) messed around with the image until the flaws appeared to be hidden, they knew they had something that would fool the average person.
Then it's time to lose that original negative for good! LOL
heatherssss 3 years ago
Heather (or whoever you are) I have offered to give you a place to post your evidence on the MABRC forums, to disprove the PGF is real, you haven't accepted that offer, or even acknowledged it, I think you are only here to cause discontent about things. If you have the information you claim (not just Greg Long's book either) then accept the offer and post it all and I will link to it for everyone to see here. Otherwise, go take your toys and go home.
darkwinglh 3 years ago
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I never saw any offer to post anything at the "MABRC" forums, whatever that is?
What is the "MABRC" forum? Where is it at?
heatherssss 3 years ago
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One other thing, darkwing.
No one else here has provided any real information BUT me.
It is just the same, dumb old comments by the Patty geeks:
"it's real!"
"no one else can make a suit like this!"
"this IS proof!"
"Bob H is a liar!"
If you want to ban me for posting the REAL story behind this hoax, then go ahead. I won't lose any sleep over it.
As they say, the devil is not welcome at the wedding.
Let the others be happy in this delusion...
heatherssss 3 years ago
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O WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT U U CAN TALK ABOUT A RETARDED HOAX ALL U WANT BUT SHIT I WANNA C MORE OF THIS BIG 8 FOOTED HAIRY SON-OF-A-BITCH THAT ALL I WANNA C ON THE COMMENTS FUCK THE HOAX THIS GUYS EVERYWHERE ON HERE HES FAMOUS n the 3 of u ......... heathers emin and dragonfucker are jus fighting on these videos which is pretty lame the more u fight on here the more of a low lifed loser u are thats all im sayin i dont wanna try n build up ur easily lit fire here cuz im not like u pCe Out
kid1207 2 years ago
If this is fake, and Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin were in on it, why was Bonehead Bob expecting a bullet in his butt. Also, why after so long is he ready to admit this. I mean, Roger died in 1972. Shouldn't he have come forward then?? I think he is lying and is just trying to sell his book.
beholdthetruth1 3 years ago
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Roger didn't come forward because the whole point of the hoax was to make MONEY. He said he wanted to leave something for his wife. He did. She is still making money off it now. Confessing to the hoax would have defeated the reason for creating it to start with.
heatherssss 3 years ago
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Bob H never came forward until now because he was afraid of being indicted in any legal intanglements due to his part in of the hoax. This changed when he saw the FOX TV special and decided it was time for you guys to know the truth.
heatherssss 3 years ago
I gotta tell ya, that Bonehead Bob just wants a little attention...maybe if we ignore hime he will go away.
peachescreme07 3 years ago
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Yeah, maybe if you ignore facts the rest of your life, it will all go away. That's the ticket. I mean it's not like there's ever been once single shred of evidence to prove BigFoot exists....Keep on believing man. Evidence is for losers.
diggs59 3 years ago
Heronimus should dress in a Bozo the Clown Costume. That would be more fitting for him. He's a joke
ogopogo76 3 years ago
You're right! But you know what? He doesn't need to wear a Bozo costume to convince most of us that he is what he appears to be--a big, fat lying clown!
kapacon 3 years ago
The PGF is, in my view, not bob hieronimus in a suit. It may be someone else or it may be real but that is not BH in a suit.
Skeptiq1 3 years ago
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-as long as you don't attack us". That would also explain the 1K payment; A little high for just helping a friend in '67. We need to get these guys on Coast to Coast AM for a nice long interview.
splatterviz 3 years ago
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I hate to call someone a liar, but either him or Bob H. are lying. Gimlin sounds credible enough, but that alone is no guarantee. I've learned that one the hard way.
No, they wouldn't have taken that chance...you're right there. I was just thinking though, I wish we could just sit down and talk with these guys. Maybe thats what Bob H. was talking about with the bullet through the butt comment...Gimlin with his 30-06. What if Patterson assured him "Gimlin definitly won't shoot you-
splatterviz 3 years ago
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Pnutbutrncrackers, Yea, I do believe him. I think he would have spoke up a long time ago if he were lying. Some say he changed his story; I don't know, but I have known people - desperate to be believed - to change things around. I'm not saying he's the sharpest knife in the drawer. I think the film was hoaxed, Patterson new Bob H., He's from same area, others (supposedly) have stated they saw the suit in Bob's car and well, I don't have room to list all reasons but combined, I think it was him
splatterviz 3 years ago
It's the exact opposite. Bob would have spoke up a long time ago if his story were true. He claims he did not get his 1000 dollar payment for wearing the suit. Any halfway decent lawyer could have gotten his payment from the Patterson estate way back in the 70s. Also, 1000 dollars? Come on, in the 60s? 1000 dollars just to wear a gorilla suit for a friend? That's equal to almost 10,000 dollars now. Sorry, Bob's story just doesn't ring true. He's being paid by Greg Long to support his book.
kapacon 3 years ago
Yes,when he lied,he forgot about inflation.1000 dollars is 10,000 in those days.You're right. That proves he's lying.
vicsr66 3 years ago
i don't understand?? how does that prove it???
StupidNutter 2 years ago
Splatter, as I mentioned below, have you considered the 'Gimlin factor'? If it were a hoax, Gimlin would almost have to have been in on it, since he was toting a rifle and might well have decided to "crack a bullet through his butt" if he didn't know it was Heironimus in costume. You gonna tell me they'd take that chance?
On the other hand, I've listened to Gimlin, have you? I assume you must believe him to be a consummate liar?
And there's much more evidence besides this.
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago
"I got out there and waited, and he gave me the signal . . . "
So I guess Bob Gimlin is a bald-faced liar too, right?
And btw, if Heironimus was worried about a hunter firing down on him, why would he think the bullet would "crack his butt" -- the worst possible place for a shot to be aimed?!
This story smells worse than a skunk ape.
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago
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I think you're nitpicking with the bullet through the butt thing...He was just trying to be funny, imo.
splatterviz 3 years ago
O.K., Splatterviz, fair point. What you've suggested is possible. I wouldn't want to make too big a deal out of it. Other factors are far more major.
I don't believe his claim, though. You?
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago
Sad...just really sad. Unfortunatly some people will believe his crappy story, even more sad.
40milesband 3 years ago 4
Well lookm what was discovered in the past week. This is an phrase copied from the news:
"Conservationists on Tuesday announced the discovery of 14 species probably new to science — among them a legless lizard and a tiny woodpecker"
Yes a far cry from a sasquatch, but just realize it possible and probable that if they do exist, one will be captured or killed as man pushes towns and cities into the once never explored wilderness.
89123jj 3 years ago
Whatever happy drug eatmyplum is on I want a hit! lol!
Exciter1000 3 years ago
I'm quite sure there are many false reports made of sightings. Does one really think that every report around the world is a fake? That would be a pretty big hoax. Remember this you non-believers, it wasn't long ago that the mountain gorilla was thought to be nothing more than a myth.
89123jj 3 years ago
John Green has about 4,000 sightings in his massive files...The skeptics believe that every single footprint and every sighting in the last 250 years, as well as the Indian legends are baseless...Most skeptics will tell you there is no such thing...when you ask them what they have read on the subject, you can rest assured it's nothing...How do they form such a rock solid opinion when they know nothinmg about the subject?
joeyvader 3 years ago 2
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eatmyplum 3 years ago
thats a real bigfoot!
gossipboyhere 4 years ago
The National Geographic producer told Dr. Jeff Meldrum that Morris' and Heironimus' "re-enactment" clearly had nothing to do with the Patterson film. I think I'll trust a National Geographic producer over a retired Pepsi bottler!
selatik 4 years ago
"The old bigfoot look", you can tell they had to expertly edit and splice Bob Erroneous' inane, whimsical comments in order to convey a semblance of coherence.
selatik 4 years ago
"All this time ya know, waitin' for a bullet to crack through my butt" WHAT A LIAR BOB ERRONEOUS IS!!!
selatik 4 years ago
Heironimus is Erroneous! Roger Patterson was not on Horseback when he filmed. He was running on foot and repositioned himself a couple of times.
selatik 4 years ago
The only hoax is Herroneous himself.
MissterTooty 4 years ago 3
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Yeah, because there is SO MUCH concrete evidence that bigfoot exists. Bigfoot is just as real as the tooth fairy.
nosaeRfOecioV 4 years ago
In fact SO MUCH evidence that Bigfoot exists, a pair of concrete overshoes could be made for his BIGFEET. It is my understanding that before Bob starred in the Patterson Bigfoot film he was a regular stand in as the Tooth Fairy. At least no one questioned his participation in that role. You really should quit being antagonistic or do some research before you make assinine comments about something you obviously know nothing about.
MissterTooty 4 years ago
Where was this Bob Herroneous when Patterson was alive? I think Bob realized he could make a nice chunk of change by offering a phoney confession. But of course, he had to wait until Patterson was dead, so it couldn't be disputed.
kapacon 4 years ago
Russian and english scientists have study this film and concluded it wasnt human...
208STROKER 4 years ago 2
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Oh yes, and we should be finding the bigfoot bones any day now, huh?! Or are you one of those who think bigfoot exists in another dimension and only visits our world every once in a while?
nosaeRfOecioV 4 years ago
What kind of smart ass fukwitt r u prick...U seem to know alot about it dickhead....FUKIN NO ALL NO nothing...id put u in another dimension idiot....u cant put a post on this fukin utube without a fuckwitt like this big noting it self...FUCKOFF AND DIE BITCH.!!!!
208STROKER 4 years ago
he said 'all this time waiting for a bullet' meansing it was hunting season and that he was scared some hunter might take a shot at him. not the people filming it
ly9898 4 years ago
Why was he waiting for a bullet to hit him? Was Gimlin not in on this? He is a brave man to do this then, cuz Gimlin was armed!! Hieronimus claims that he is wearing a football helmet with a mask attached to it!! No shit! A football helmet! HAHAHA! That is rich....football helmet. Anyone believe that the head that looks our way is a football helmet, stand up and be counted a moron!!!!!
joeyvader 4 years ago
yeah right
SpinachVillage000 4 years ago