I don't know whether NDEs really happen or not only because I have not experienced it myself. But no way I would want to deny the possibility. There is no proof. But then the earth was round even before it was proved to be round. So lack of evidence is not sufficient argument to refute the existence of NDEs.
For anyone interested in NDE's should read about a certain neurotransmitter called "dimethyltryptamine" which is responsible for the visions and out of body experience. Just search up "dmtsm" or "DMT the spirit molecule" in the youtube search. Life is truly a psychedelic experience.
this 699 backstab guy would back up anything he says in person, hes a pure jerk who thinks the scientific areana is the only way, well even they are just alot of theories and very little evidence and even they are having these and stating that irelligious jerks need to wake up. no asshole athiest stand up for himself in person, i ran into a few they talk behind ur back but they wont say it to ur face..ive whipped like 5 now, they go crying and softening up real quick. backdown assholes.tis real!
There is no gods. There is zero evidence for gods. You will die, it will hurt. When you die you come to an end. There is nothing, exactly like before you were born. Same feeling which is nothing. No gods, in case you didn't get it the first time. Your NDE is as a result of hallucinations from brain oxygen deprivation. Like a computer blue screening. You are weak of character to think anything of your NDE hallucinations. Drop your religion, its fake. Become a Human again and live properly.
@699backstab We NDErs are not talking about religion at all, neither belief or disbelief figures into what we are trying to share with you. We are sharing a direct experience, and though you may have your theories to discount our experiences, your theories are just that… theories. I know that my NDE was real, but I respect your right to disagree because you haven’t been there yourself. You do not know, but you will, everyone will one day. Many scientists are convinced without having one too.
@699backstab Do you have evidence for this? I believe you have zero evidence for this. What is the difference between people with NDE's, who believe in god and people like you? Love... In your message your tone suggests that you think you know everything about life and that you are full of anger. People who believe there is more to life than worldly things believe in love. One thing an atheist a Buddhist monk and a christian can all agree on is that love is the key. Something you clearly lack.
@699backstab You can pretend you are happy with your absolute knowledge and point fingers at people to try to make yourself feel smart or what ever your reasoning is. You will live a lonely life and the only people you will have relationships with are arrogant people such as yourself. The only one you are hurting is yourself. P.S. To make a valid argument you need to know both sides. So I suggest you don't respond until you have read the bible or something to validate an argument.
@Tinsletooth I dont read the bible od death for the same reason I dont wipe my asshole with toilet paper and then try to read the skid mark. Because its shit. Its fiction, and really bad fiction at that. I don't need to hold my hand on a red hot stove element to know its going to be bad. I don't need to read dogshit bible dogma to know its a farce just like the empty cardboard non thinking troglodytes that think its real. :)
I, too had a NDE in my early 20's after a severe boating accident. I'm a RN and "Born-Again" Christian. Many aspects of your experience mirrored mine. Except I saw Jesus and Mary. Which surprised me because I'm not Catholic. But, I exp. the peaceful feeling and no pain. I've never read words to properly describe it. Upon returning to my hosp. bed, all the severe pain came rushing back. I wanted to write in detail. But, due to character limitations, I couldn't.
Hell is a real place. satan is a real entity. Be most careful about these so-called NDExperiencers, as many of them are apostles of satan charged with the mission of duping people into their Pied Piper sham ... while marginalizing Jesus in order to have as many souls cast forever into hell with them!
From all these NDE experiences we can begin to understand that we come from a place of Love. Not a place of fear. Those who promote love through fear are doing evil, but they don't realize it. Unfortunately the forces of evil have used the Bible to keep millions of people full of fear. This is why "The Devil" is often described as an incredibly deceptive being. People think they are doing good when they are tools of evil. Remember, it's about love, not fear.
@numag1 Amen to that, my beloved sibling. Thank you for holding true to God’s love, and sharing great truths even with just a few small words. It is so refreshing, considering the turmoil which surrounds it. God bless.
Word, logos, naam, shabd, kalma, ringing radiance, sraosha, holy ghost, celestial sound, bang-i-ilahi, udgit, akash-bani, music of the spheres, inner light, sach khand, amrit, ruach elohim. I die daily- St. Paul..... If thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be filled with light.-yeshua(all-love,light,f orgiveness,consciousness,peace )
THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO LIVE FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. AND, WHY NOT... HE DIED FOR US AND TOOK UP HIS LIFE AGAIN TO MAKE A WAY OUT OF NO WAY FOR US! SO, HE IS WORTHY OF OUR LOVE, OUR LIVES HERE, RIGHT NOW. THIS WORLD IS SO FAKE, SO FLEETING AND IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE FOR TODAY. LIVE FOR THIS WORLD. LIVE FOR THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD. LIVE FOR THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD. BUT, THIS WORLD IS THE SHADOW OF DEATH. YOUR SOUL WILL LEAVE HERE. BE YE ALSO READY SAITH THE LORD.
THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT SHARE AND MINISTER THE LOVE, THE EXAMPLE, THE TRUTH TO JESUS CHRIST TO ALL! :) TO EVEN THOSE WE THINK THAT ARE THE HARDEST TO WITNESS TO. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY... FOLKS CAN ARGUE ALL DAY ABOUT IF HEAVEN OR HELL IS REAL, BUT HERE IS WHAT WE CAN ALL AGREE... WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS LIFE. THAT'S 100% NO ARGUMENT. AND, IF YOUR SOUL IS LEAVES IN A STATE OF SHAMBLES IF HEAVEN / GOD BE NOT REAL, THEN OK. BUT, IF GOD BE REAL, THEN YOUR SOUL IS LOST 4-EVER.
@LPATWILLFILM Well, you had me ‘til the last sentence. You obviously agree that God exists, but the fate of souls in the next world, however they leave this one, is beyond our ken. We can infer and suppose much, based on scripture, religion, NDEs, other experiences (or what have you), but to state such a fact based on any supposition seems to me to be an act of hubris. I'm glad that you have found truths that speak to you and bring you peace, but be careful not to extend your truths onto God.
@GoosedByTheLight IT IS GOD THAT GIVES US THE TRUTH! JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! YOU BETTER WAKE UP! JESUS CHRIST IS GOD AND HE MAKES IT CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE DIE... HEAVEN OR HELL. TO SERVE JESUS CHRIST... HEAVEN. TO SERVE YOURSELF AND/OR A FALSE GOD... HELL. Period.
@LPATWILLFILM You focus on the truth that God gave, while I’ll focus on the Truth that God is. I did wake up, but I returned to this world of such fitful slumber and fevered dreams, where a pattern in the dream is confused with the entire infinite waking world. You can expect a lot of things when you die, I did too, but it is never anything like anyone expects. Pride is the worst of the mortal sins, so TAKE IT DOWN A KNOTCH, you don’t understand everything, there is always more in the Infinite.
@GoosedByTheLight Yes, I agree. It's the ego the keeps us in fear and judgment because of its need to control its environment. The ego is afraid of dying because it knows it's not real. So-called religious people live in fear and judgment because they have never really experienced God's Love. That's why NDEers have a unique service to perform in educating people to the Truth. Thanks for your service.
@numag1 But, how do you feel about NDEers that have had HELL EXPERIENCES, that did NOT come to a place of "light" and "love" and "peace" but came to a place of "darkness" "unadulterated hate" and "torture" and whom have been recorded VIA historical record as in all cases of such NDEs, they CALLED UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST or PRAYED THE LORD'S PRAYER and were given a 2nd chance? Many such NDEers whom were ATHEISTS & CRIMINALS are **NOW** BIBLE-BELIEVING BORN-AGAIN SAINTS. Explain?
@LPATWILLFILM Yes, some have distressing NDE, but what happened just before that? Distressing NDEs are VERY rare, I’ve only met five or six out of the hundreds of NDErs I’ve met or corresponded with, but not one of them were tried or had a life review before hand, nor have I read of one where they were as much as charged with a single sin first. It’s possible that God doesn’t believe in due process, but it’s more likely that they were never even judged… by God at least.
@LPATWILLFILM Positive NDEs, which DO have life-reviews, show us a different picture than what you paint. These NDErs say there was no judgment at all, or that they judged themselves, but I’ve never heard a believable/reputable one where any Devine agency had as much tisk-tisked anything they’d done. I concede that distressing NDEs happen, and that invoked heavenly forces pull them out, but aside from your expectations, there is no reason to believe that they were placed there as judgment.
@LPATWILLFILM No, NOT PERIOD. How can you have such a closed mind? Wake up. Love is not based on FEAR. You peddle FEAR based on your archaic interpretation of the Bible. How can a God of Love want his children to live in fear? What you're doing is evil, even though you don't realize it. And you will be judged for it. so REPENT!
@numag1 Because I HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST JESUS that's how! JESUS CHRIST says MY WAY IS NARROW. WIDE, OPEN, BROAD is the way to "destruction." To be OPEN-MINDED is to have the MIND OF THE WORLD, but that leads to SIN & ultimately DEATH. I don't peddle anything. But, I PREACH HOPE -- THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A LOVE MESSAGE & HOPE TO THE SINNER. But, it is NOT HOPE to the SINNER that LOVES THEIR SIN and desires to LIVE and CONTINUE a life of SIN. That's why it is "frightful to you."
@LPATWILLFILM You think you “HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST JESUS”? Really? I’ll refrain from asking if He needs to borrow it back when He wants to do sums, and instead ask, why don’t you find this belief blasphemous? I’ve met people who think the voice in their head is God, and people who believe that they know the infinite mind and/or will of God, which is even crazier and the source of much pain and strife in the world today, but you actually “HAVE” Christ’s mind? That’s a whole new level of hubris.
@LPATWILLFILM “Shall the potter be considered as equal with the clay”? Is your ego so deluded that you believe you understand as Christ does? If so, then no amount of Truth will likely sway you from such PRIDE. Even if you are right in all your “Christly” judgments, remember that Christ not only possessed an infinite mind, but an infinite heart as well. I don’t believe that your finite being can contain either, but if you insist on HAVING the mind, try to temper it by adopting the heart as well.
@LPATWILLFILM Read 1 Corinthians. The whole book is good, but focus on chapter 13. The one which starts “(1) If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. (2) If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.” And ends “(13) But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
@LPATWILLFILM I think it’s very relevant to your discussion with numag too. As you read about how nothing in us, or in this world, matters in the least in the absence of Love, remember that God is Love, unconditional Love. Now in light of this (e.g. “1 Cor. 13:5 [Love/God] is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.”), how do you resolve your judgments and condemnations regarding hell? Judgment exists, but in the minds of men, not the mind of God.
@GoosedByTheLight WOW!!!! What I said really flipped you out! :) That is evidence that I touched the proverbial RAW nerve within you. Now, sweetie pie, JUDGMENT EXISTS with GOD. Since you are the BIBLE MASTER please read REVELATION there will be the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT. God is LOVE and that is why HE IS THE TRUE, PERFECT, ETERNAL JUDGE. And, He is FAIR. and JUST. A man whom has rebelled and lusted after the flesh why should he be REWARDED HEAVEN, his "heaven" is here!
@LPATWILLFILM As usual, it seems that you again aren’t questioning your judgments. You will see only what you are willing to see, even if it is limited to only what you expect to see. I never “flipped out”, from your words or at all, but if it makes you feel proud and powerful to think that you elicited such a reaction in me, I know that I won’t be able to convince you otherwise. Now honeybunch, EVERYTHING exists with God, but that doesn’t mean that God necessarily endorses JUDGMENT.
@LPATWILLFILM I’m no “BIBLE MASTER”, never claimed to be, and never thought I was. I’m just a humble servant of God, who reads the bible with humility and an openness to understand, and not just to validate my opinions as some do. I first read the Book of Revelation at age eight and I’ve read it several times since, along with all of the bible, Apocrypha, and I recently started on the “lost gospels” from such as the Nag Hammadi library, and Revelation seems closer to the latter than the former.
@LPATWILLFILM As “THE TRUE, PERFECT, ETERNAL JUDGE”, God doesn’t judge as we judge, so using flawed, mortal, human reasoning to limit “His” judgment is folly. It will always be a mystery to our finite human minds, because we do not see or reason as our Creator does. To imply that you understand the mind and will of God is the height of pride and self-deception. God is the perfect judge, so why do you feel the need to second guess “His” will and weigh in, if not from pride and ego? Be still.
@GoosedByTheLight Conversely a man whom has chastened his soul and walked after the spirit of the Lord forsaking the "way" of his flesh for the WILL OF GOD, why should he NOT be REWARDED HEAVEN? See, if GOD is just then how can he let UNREPENTANT SINNERS, REBELLIOUS and THE PROUD, THE LUSTFILLED all partake of HIS JOY when they have NOT taken up their "cross" and became a LIVING SACRIFICE, but yet that person should NOT be "rewarded" his WAGES of SIN? C'mon! THAT WOULD MAKE GOD UNJUST!
@LPATWILLFILM In the gospel, we were commanded to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength” and to “'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these”. If not being a “LIVING SACRIFICE” is a deal breaker, then it should at least appear as a third on this list. Paul “urged/beseeched” in Romans 12:1 that we be a living sacrifice, Its not a commandment, and not from God or Christ. Just good advice
@LPATWILLFILM Jesus addressed your concerns about the apparent “injustice” of God’s ways in parables; the prodigal son and the workers in the fields, the tithe of the widow’s two coppers being greater than the great sums given by others from their surplus. Our measures of justice and virtue are not the measures by which God balances our accounts, and the denarius belongs to Caesar and its value is set by earthly authorities. God uses “His” own greater systems of measure, so don't limit "Him".
@LPATWILLFILM “Do not judge or you too will be judged” (Mat.7:1), “Do not judge and you will not be judged” (Luke6:37), “in fact, I do not even judge myself” (1 Corr.4:3). (6) ”Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other. (7) For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive?”...
@LPATWILLFILM “And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are prudent in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are distinguished, but we are without honor. (11) To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty, and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; (12) and we toil, working with our own hands; when we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure;”
@LPATWILLFILM (13) “when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, even until now. (14) I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children”. (5) Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.”
@GoosedByTheLight Conversely A man or a woman that becomes a LIVING SACRIFICE UNTO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST should share the SAME REWARD OF HEAVEN to those whom rebelled, satisfied their flesh, pleased their soul in the earth, cared less about the WILL OF GOD and did NOTHING to serve HIM and yet, you think that same person should share HEAVEN with the ONE that REPENTED, OBEYED and CRUCIFIED the deeds of their flesh? You're kidding! HELL AWAITS THE UNREPENTANT and JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF PROMISED IT!
@ihatelumberjacks Well that shows me what you THINK of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. I did NOT say that, HE SAID THAT. You guys want to get to "do what you want" but not have to "pay the price" for doing it. Niether LIFE nor DEATH works that way. There is a "cost" to be the "boss." And, if you want to be the CAPTAIN of your OWN ship, and THE BOSS over your own life and affairs, then there is an ETERNAL PRICE to be paid for that. JESUS CHRIST PAID THE PRICE, but you REJECT HIS WAY, so you MUST PAY.
@LPATWILLFILM Lol, where's your proof? Oh, that centuries old book that's been misintepreted and re hashed and is basically a big book of Chinese whispers? That constantly contradicts itself? That was written by men, for men (on the most part excluding belittling women)? 'Thats' your proof??... Religion is a disease, a Dis-Ease of the mind, a virus that spreads only in those who have a weak will.
@LPATWILLFILM So what makes you an authority on the way death works at all, and how is your opinions of the way life works superior to anyone else’s? You seem to be carrying a great burden of pride and certainty, while judging others for trying to be the “CAPTAIN of your OWN ship”, and you aren’t seeing that you are doing the same through your judgments… only you are proclaiming yourself as admiral over all ships. Release the judgment to God’s capable hands and just Love as you were commanded.
@GoosedByTheLight GOD'S WORD! Which you obviously and conveniently PICKED & CHOOSED what you like that avoids the SIN of MAN and THE JUDGMENT OF SIN. What do you do with scriptures where JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF clearly admonish the SINNER to go and sin no more! What do you do with the scripture where JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF speaks of Hell Fire, weeping and gnashing of teeth for those who lived REBELLIOUS & DISOBEDIENT to Him?
@LPATWILLFILM If you refer to the bible as God’s word, I started reading it from cover to cover when ten, finished at twelve, then read it all the way through again. I didn’t skip a single “begat”, and there was no “PICK[ING] & CHOOS[ING]”. I too thought that I understood it, and that didn’t change until I died at the age of 23. (1 Cor13:11) “When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.”
@LPATWILLFILM Not only do I KNOW that I didn’t understand as a child, but I also KNOW that I don’t understand now, because I briefly understood ALL in God’s presence, and every stage of my life’s understanding pales in comparison to that perfection, and I won’t see it again in this life. (1 Cor.13:12) “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.” I know it’s scary to not understand, but you will.
@GoosedByTheLight Let me CONCLUDE your foolishness... YOU'RE AN IDIOT! You pick and choose these little cute verses you love from THE BIBLE, but then REJECT THE BIBLE in its TOTALITY. Doesn't work like that baby! Jesus says make the WHOLE TREE GOOD or CORRUPT. You can't take a dab of God's Word and try to create your own "personal Jesus" this aint DEPECHE MODE. THE BIBLE is 100% the infallible, unfailing, immutable WORD OF GOD or it is NOT. You believe that it is NOT... go with that!
@LPATWILLFILM I prefer the title “fool”, but when it comes to understanding of our Infinite God… I’ll answer to “idiot”. That’s okay, I Love you and accept you for who you are, and where you are in your understanding, because to me the whole tree is good… even your dry little twig. I know that you still have the potential to bear fruit, and I celebrate that potential in you. I understand that you are lashing out because you feel threatened, but I still Love you as myself when I was there.
@LPATWILLFILM I’ll see your “DEPECHE MODE”, and raise you to a “New Order”. I never claimed “The wisdom of a fool [would] set you free”, because this fool knows his place is not that of savior. We could keep quoting ‘80’s songs if you like, but I believe that actually referencing the bible might be more productive to our ends. I do not reject the bible as you claim, for between the two of us, I’m the only one who has ever referred to it directly. Chaper and verse, please (bible, not top-ten).
@LPATWILLFILM Again, it would be easier and more productive for us both if you could give chapter and verse, so that I could address your specific concerns, instead of having to reference every related mention to what you say in passing. For example, with admonishing the sinner, are you referring to his conversation with (John 8:11) the adulteress? (John 5:14) The lame man? Both examples come from John, but are otherwise very different, so I will be torn by addressing them both.
@LPATWILLFILM Your interpretations are very hard to decipher without a reference to their source, so without such references, I will have to leave you to your limited views. I do not have the time to try to interpret your interpretations, and even then, we would be speaking of things even further from their source. We have the bible to act as a middle ground and a reference, so why don’t you want to use it? Do you believe that your understanding and words are superior? Please, actually read it.
@GoosedByTheLight What do you do with scripture that says clearly: IF THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY BE SAVED WHERE SHALL THE UNGOLDLY APPEAR? What do you do with scripture that says that GOD'S PEOPLE are the JUDGES OF THE WORLD? What do you do with scripture that says there is a WAY that seem right unto man, but the end thereof is death? What do you do with these scriptures where the LORD JESUS CHRIST CLEARLY POINTS OUT THAT THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH? See, you WANT to deceive yourself that SIN OK!
@GoosedByTheLight AND, FINALLY... THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST IS TO CALL SINNERS UNTO REPENTANCE. I LOVE MORE THAN YOU EVER KNOW. AND, MORE THAN YOU DO. Because while you are "placating and pacifying" the foolishness (SIN) of your brothers and sisters under the false "guise" of "love" you are NOT really LOVING THEM WITH THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST which is to call them, invite them, show them, encourage them, lead them UNTO REPENTANCE that their SINS be forgiven and that they find HIS GRACE!
@numag1 I have not offered any "interpretation" on THE BIBLE, an "interpretation" is born out of ambiguity, but JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE IS CLEAR that HE HAS COME TO CALL THE SINNER TO REPENTANCE and that through REPENTANCE (turning from one's OWN will, ways and doings and allowing HIM to lead you, guide you and be LORD so that GOD'S WILL is done in your life and NOT YOUR OWN WILL) that through REPENTANCE you are IN HIM made WHOLE & RESTORED to THE FATHER. But, you guys HATE THAT MESSAGE...
@numag1 Because you are OF THE WORLD and the WORLD says DO AS YOU PLEASE, DO YOUR OWN THING, LIVE ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WILL, DESIRES, EMOTIONS, PLEASURES, THOUGHTS and UNDERSTANDING. And, that is to then live in REBELLION to GOD, for that is then to EXALT ONE'S SELF higher than GOD by trusting that your OWN WAY is more righteous and more pleasing than GOD'S WAY for your life. But, to the SINNER whom DESIRES TO KNOW HIM the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST is THE PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY! :)
@numag1 And, you are right I WILL BE JUDGED for sharing with others such as yourself to TURN FROM YOUR OWN THOUGHTS, OWN DESIRES, OWN WILL, OWN AMBITIONS and just LET GO and LET GOD. TRY HIM. Try HIS WAY. Seek HIM for strenght to be a LIVING SACRIFICE, HOLY & ACCEPTABLE unto HIM. That, I surely will be JUDGED for! But, you too, will also be JUDGED. WE ALL WILL BE JUDGED. So, that's NOT a problem or an issue. The QUESTION IS: For WHAT will you be JUDGED BY GOD for?
@numag1 Will you be JUDGED BY HIM in accordance to seeking to be HIS EXAMPLE, HIS LIGHT, HIS WITNESS and encouraging your fellow man to TURN FROM this SINFUL, DYING & DECEIVED WORLD? OR will you be JUDGED BY HIM in accordance to seeking to be YOURSELF and living a LIFE UNTO YOURSELF and encouraging your fellow man to CONTINUE ON IN A LIFE OF SIN, DEATH & DECEPTION all in the name of "tolerance" "acceptance" and [false] "peace?" Do you realize that, THAT is what you are doing?
@numag1 I sure do! And, the REBELLIOUS, SINFUL and UNREPENTANT SINNER sure LOVES that scripture! But, they NEVER FINISH nor COMPLETE the ENTIRE VERSE of what JESUS SAID. They, like you, get stuck on that ONE LINE and chuck out the rest of what HE SAID (which is "picking & choosing"). JESUS SAID judge not lest ye be judged, because it will be measured to you again, so judged yourself FIRST and FOREMOST so that you CAN SEE CLEARLY how to then get that JUNK out of your BROTHER'S LIFE (ie. "eye")
@LPATWILLFILM "Why dost thou strain at the speck in your brother's eye when there is a BEAM in thine own eye?" Humble yourself and stop assuming you know what is in your brother's heart. Only God knows what's in another man's heart. Jesus warned the Scribes that the letter killeth but the Spirit giveth life. Ponder that.
@numag1 So, you are PICKING & CHOOSING why are YOU REFUSING TO COMPLETE JESUS CHRIST WORDS... Did HE NOT SUM UP THAT SAME VERSE with... "THAT YOU MAY SEE CLEARLY HOW TO REMOVE THE SPECK FROM YOUR BROTHER'S EYE?" Don't be deceitful. Receive HIS WORD just as it is. And, WE CAN KNOW what is in our BROTHER'S HEART for JESUS CHRIST also says: "Ye will KNOW the tree by the fruit it bears." And, "Out of the abundance of a man's heart doth he speak." So, let's not play games, here. That HURTS you.
@numag1 Many such NDEers whom have HAD HELL EXPERIENCES some where NOT just ATHEISTS or CRIMINALS, or of FALSE RELIGIONS, but many were those even IN THE CHURCH, whom believed in GOD, some BACKSLIDDEN but were NOT LIVING in SPIRIT and in TRUTH and in OBEDIENCE to GOD'S WORD. They were serving THE LORD JESUS CHRIST with their words, lips, but not ways and lives. Don't be deceived. NOT ALL NDE experiences are recorded as LIGHT & LOVE. It is IMPORTANT to KNOW THAT so that we MAY REPENT OF SIN.
@numag1 I invite you to check out PRECIOUS TESTIMONIES Channel right here on YT. They have several NDEers some with HEAVENLY NDEs and some with HELLISH NDEs and it is important to understand that a SELFISH, SELF-SERVING, REBELLIOUS and UNREPENTANT LIFE will lead to HELL. Why? DOES GOD SEND US THERE? GOD SENT HIS SON JESUS CHRIST SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THERE. But, if we CHOOSE to DO IT OUR WAY, then we MUST PAY IT OUR WAY. And, it is a COST already PAID, so only a FOOL would reject!
@numag1 JESUS NEVER intended that HIS WORD be so ridiculously MISUSED and ABUSED to mean NOT TO JUDGE AT ALL. He was giving a WARNING, a CAVEAT and a CLARIFICATION as to WHEN to JUDGE and HOW TO JUDGE and HOW NOT TO BE HYPOCRITICAL WHEN YOU DO JUDGE. That is what He is saying (please READ THE ENTIRE VERSE). But, the UNREPENTANT and the REBELLIOUS don't want to do that, because they HATE FOR THEIR SINFUL WORKS TO BE JUDGED. But, THE BIBLE says that through JUDGEMENT we become GODLY SORRY...
@numag1 But, GODLY SORROW works its way unto REPENTANCE. If I am not judged how can I truly discern what is truly GOOD & EVIL? And, if I can not discern what is truly GOOD & EVIL, how then can I REPENT of that which is EVIL and aspire and inspire to do that which is GOOD? JUDGEMENT in of itself is NOT WRONG (it is only when WRONG JUDGMENT is being administered that it is wrong i.e., false judgment or hypocritical judgment) THAT'S WRONG! Because JUDGEMENT MUST BE IN TRUTH by charge & example.
@numag1 That is why THE BIBLE says it is BETTER that WE JUDGE OURSELVES and it says THAT GOD'S PEOPLE ARE THE JUDGES OF THE WORLD. Why? Because it is better that we get ourselves in check and help each other to get in check so that we may have TIME IN THIS WORLD TO REPENT and CHANGE OUR HEARTS and LIVES, than to LEAVE THIS WORLD and be JUDGED BY GOD. Because if you are judged BY HIM and have NOT been REDEEMED you will PAY THE PENALTY FOR YOUR SINS, but JESUS PAID IT FOR US we simply REPENT.
@numag1 But, again... THE REBELLIOUS SINNER, THE UNREPENTANT SINNER, THE PROUD SINNER hates Judgement, hates Repentance and ultimately HATES THE BIBLE and HATES THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. And, falsely judge GOD'S PEOPLE and GOD HIMSELF as unrighteous and "evil" because it requires them to do the ONE THING THEY HATE TO DO, i.e., turn from their OWN way and humble their OWN will and refrain from their OWN works. That's SAD! GOD IS LOVE and HIS asking of us to REPENT is too much for us to do?
@numag1 I doubt it. I haven’t caught a single actual citation of chap & verse yet, it seems to be just a single, very long and very LOUD, filibuster of pride and ego.
@numag1 And, FINALLY there is ONLY ONE FEAR and ONE FEAR alone to be had... FEAR THE LORD! That's a GOOD, HEALTHY and HOLY FEAR. But, the problem is, folks such as yourself you DON'T FEAR THE LORD (which is the beginning of Wisdom) and that is why you can DO the THINGS you can do in this life without any GODLY CONSCIENCE of how what you are doing is affecting THE HEART OF THE LORD, affecting THE CONDITION OF YOUR SOUL and the STATE OF YOUR EXISTENCE. So, if there IS FEAR that's A GOOD one.
I've been very interested in NDE's for about 6 years now. I've done a lot of research about this topic, and if anyone's interested you can click on my username to visit my channel and then click on the website I've made under "profile". A family member of mine has had a NDE, which has lead me into doing more research. This family member told me about their "life review" (Mostly forgetten, but then had it repalyed with their emotions, including others) And then seeing heaven/ hell.
All these heart-warming accounts that some of these NDEs report have tones of sincerity that lend them credibility and, yet, one can't ignore the fact that they don't square with the Bible. For all anyone knows, these people could in fact be apostles of the devil, spreading lies for the purpose of leading many, many people into the eternal flames of hell!!!
Btw, Jesus never said, "You're here to learn" (as NDErs claim). However, He did say that life is about separating the sheep from the goats!
@guyNbluejeans Hi Guy. I hope I’m not giving you the impression that I’m harassing you. I just try to respond to any notable comments on my friends videos, and you’ve been posting here.
I disagree with your contention that NDEs “don’t square with the Bible”. Perhaps not every interpretation of the Bible, and perhaps not some interpretations of NDEs, but the NDE itself matches the Bible itself quite well from what I’ve seen of both. Egos interpreting both have failed to fully understand either.
@GoosedByTheLight That includes NDErs interpreting their own NDEs too. Our souls expand when they leave our bodies, we understand All directly, without limitations, but when we return to flesh, our brains (egos) can’t resolve the infinite understanding which was just ours. We still have insight/understanding which makes it through, but its clips and phrases, out of context. Take everything with a grain of salt, but don’t disbelieve one interpretation because it seems not to square with another.
@GoosedByTheLight The Bible says "the path is straight and narrow and few people choose it." Translation: most people are going to hell when their time in this world is up (not to some loving being of light that accepts them unconditionally). In that regard NDEs don't square at all with the Bible's bottom line.
@guyNbluejeans I agree with your logic, but less your use of the word “translation”, which usually implies a more literal equality of meaning, and can you please give me the chapter and verse you are quoting? If your “translation” was accurate and undeniable, then I would accept your conclusion. I think a more accurate word would be “interpretation” however, which is why I chose to use it above when talking about biblical interpretations, which you have now kindly offered an example of.
@guyNbluejeans If this is a quote from scripture (I can’t find it to check its context, but your punctuation implies that it is), then nothing of the excerpt you present implies that “most people are going to hell”, only that few will choose it. I grant that there are dozens of places in the bible which talk of paths, a few narrow, many straight, and even some that are likely related to an avoidance of hell, but they are scattered throughout, and I prefer to stay in context. Please clarify.
@guyNbluejeans Oh, and this NDEr for one, never claimed that Jesus ever said “You‘re here to learn”, but I should point out that I cannot say with such certainty that he didn‘t say it either. Jesus lived many years, and not everything he said was recorded, either in the Bible, or in the many other scriptures which quoted him. If any of those who saw him in a NDE, a vision, or any such (and if it really was him) say that he said it, then he said it. I don’t know what you’re referring to, however.
@GoosedByTheLight In my NDE i didnt see Jesus. Being only 5yrs old when it happened i didnt even know who Jesus was as such. But during the NDE, i knew deep in my soul that something powerfull was at the top of the waterfall that was drawing me to it. I'm not religious atall really but know that the things i saw and people i saw were real. I made a video explaining the details of the NDE. Took many years to finally pucker up the courage to share it for fear i would be looked at as a nut job!
@Supportahol You and I both know how intrinsically real these NDEs are, even if we can’t find a means to convey it to this unreal world. I’m glad to hear you have found a medium by which some portion of it might be expressed, and if you have it here on YouTube, I’d love to see it. Personally, it took me 11 years to gather my courage to talk about it, but I found that there comes a time when it’s better to fulfill our purposes as whackjobs (my preference), than to deny them as the status quo.
@guyNbluejeans I try to be open to the idea we’re “here to learn”, but I never heard it as a quote from Jesus. Regardless of the source, if it has any truth, it can’t mean that we are here to gain knowledge for any ends, but it is the act of learning itself which could be the only point. After all, if the point of life is just to get knowledge, then life is painfully pointless, because all knowledge and understanding is ours right after death anyway. It need be the learning itself, or nothing.
@GoosedTheLight Excellent point. It makes sense to me personally but, again, Jesus was/is the Master and there's no place in the entire Bible where He says we're here to learn and develop our souls. The Bible makes it frighteningly clear that this world is a spiritual battle ground and that it's all about separating the sheep from the goats ... and therefore I have no choice but to wonder if people like yourself are satan's followers and trying to lead people away from Jesus and His word. Sorry.
@guyNbluejeans Yea, I’m skeptical about the “learning” theory myself, but I try not to cross from skepticism into cynicism. I make no claims to understand the reason for life, or even existence in general, so I also try to remain open to the theories of others. I don’t blame you for wondering, or even doubting, my motives and allegiances, but if I ever say anything that seems to imply that I am trying to lead you or anyone anywhere, especially away from your faith, please call me on it.
@guyNbluejeans I lost my ability to have faith in God’s existence, due to my NDE, and I have wondered ever since if I am now missing something integral to God’s plan for us. Jesus never appeared in my NDE, so I can still exercise faith in him, but it is now impossible for me to extend the same faith toward God. Even if I’m not “missing” anything, I still miss it in other ways. To me, faith is even more precious now, so I would never want to rob another of this grace. Peace and blessings to you.
@GoosedByTheLight the infant doesn't think so much about the umbilical cord.... that worry belongs to the mother. She would LOVE it if the infant loved where he was, loved her, was intrigued by the sounds he could hear, moved around stretching and learning and all the time being one with her and part of her. Everything in life is part of a pattern, like the mandelbrot set. Pregnancy in this life is a great tool to help understand pregnancy in the next life (:
@stoephead I agree. “Reality” is a matrix of nested fractals within a universal hologram, and fractal patterns are reflected and refracted into every level of manifestation. That’s much of why I’m so fond of using metaphors, analogies, and parables to describe my NDE and all other subjects that are difficult or even impossible to describe independently. Pregnancy is a good one too, but not the only one, and not a perfect one. At exclusively “this level”, buns don’t get shoved back in the oven.
God is one in 3 Persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Father is Creator of the world and Father sent to us his Son to be our Saviour. Son became man, Jesus Christ, from the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit. Catholic faith is true and authority of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is in it. Catholic faith is revealed to us by God. God is Creator and Saviour.1 faith. All other religions are made by men, because man is capable to know God by natural reason as a cause and goal of his existence.
Stories such as this - great video by the way - must have something to teach every one of us. No worries if we find our own version of the truth - we can never see everything exactly the same way. There is so much that we can't understand, but one consistent theme is that there is purpose to life and learning to love is a major part of this purpose
@hunnyhillbees I just had to stop and pat you on the back hunny. You seem to get it, as much as any of us do, including those of us who have actually died. Yea, those of us that have been there may be able to share specifics, or even a quote or two from God, but in essence, it fundamentally boils down to what you shared. Though versions of Truth differ, the actual Truth is the same, there is much we cannot understand, and Love is the ever-present and inescapable reality that ties it all together
An articulate and compelling account of a NDE. Very thought provoking. The 'going towards the light' recalls the Buddhist Tibetan Book of the Dead which is a text of preparation of the mind for death.
@20callenderslady I think that the “Tibetan Book of the Dead” was talking about this light too, but according to Sogyal Rinpoche’s “Tibetan Book of Living and Dying”, he says that the Dawning of the Ground Luminosity is not the same light as in NDEs. Though I have not experienced the Ground Luminosity through meditation, I have had a NDE and seen a light that matches it’s description. He didn’t elaborate, so I wonder if he was doubting that the untrained can reach that Bardo. Egoic sour grapes?
@meghan151993 Well, not on mine! The tunnel is actually part of the stereotype, and is only rarely part of the experience. It is in large part an artifact of early NDE research, as it was one of the first recurring themes identified in NDEs. It appears in only a minority of NDEs, and in spite of often being confused with what a NDE actually is, it is really just a setting that shows up in one of every four or five NDEs. NDEs are so much more than a tunnel.
@GoosedByTheLight Now explain why moslems have nde`s connected with the islamic faith, boudhists with their beliefs ,christians generally with christianity and many have nde`s not connected with religion at all.
@lizazoon This is because the afterlife is initially plastic in nature. When we die expecting to see Christ, Jesus is waiting. Buddhists see bodhisattvas or the Buddha himself, and Ralphists see a head of cabbage. What we expect to see becomes manifest for us, to ease our transition. All this just means that the Universe (God) is trying to put us at ease, giving us what we expect. God looks past the fact that all religion is only a separation from “Him”, just to put us at ease.
@lizazoon Well mam, I’ve been there, and yet you think that I’m the one imagining? I gave you the answer to your question as honestly and completely as 500 chars allow, but instead of listening, you dismiss the answer outright. I did not base the answer on something from a book or religion, but from my own death and dozens of others that I know… but even first hand knowledge is not apparently good enough for you. So who, short of the reaper, would you listen to?
@GoosedByTheLight Well sir I have been there too. And 50 years after that fantasitc experience(thew consequences of which lasted decades) and studying about it, I feel it cannot have been anything else but a wonderful trick of my brain.
@lizazoon Then I believe that you are in the most severe denial that I have ever heard of, or that you never really had a NDE in the first place. Sorry, but the truth is unmistakable for those who have witnessed the disparity between it and this shallow reality, so if you can even bring yourself to doubt that reality in place of this one, you never really had a NDE. trick of your brain perhaps, but not a NDE. I’ll trust your judgment on that, but trust mine on the real thing.
@GoosedByTheLight Well sir, if you read about it, you will find that many, and I repeat MANY come to the same conclusion as I did. And some even become atheists. I know exactly what you mean, you don`t have to try and describe it to me, because it is undescribable. Yet ,did you ever ask the question why this god, took so much interest in you /? Did you deserve it ? NO !! And then comes again this question about innocent children, who DID NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE.. Why ???
@lizazoon I've met only three including you who have falsely claimed to have had a NDE, one was a born again Christian who was preaching of hell, and the other was a new ager who was trying to sell a book. All three combined make up less than a half a percent of the self proclaimed NDErs that I know. Yeah, like the other two, you have an agenda. In spite of this, you would be the only Atheist of all of them, if you were the least bit believable. Oh and God's interest in me is of grace.
@GoosedByTheLight : It is noted that you accuse me of falsely claiming an NDE. But you carefully tiptoe around the big question. WHY ME ?? You did not deserve it. Yet many INNOCENT, who clearly deserve it more then you or I, do not get any attention from this god, to the contrary, they seem to be punished for no reason, Answer this question and your claim of a supernatural event might have some legitimacy.
@lizazoon Why me? How can I possibly answer that to someone who claims to know the pain and fate of children from far away lands? Why me? Because my brother was born as a paranoid schizophrenic who one day decided to sneak into my bedroom and stab me while I slept. My own brother stabbed me five times before I could get away from him, and that’s why me. Knowing that you see injustice in the fate of these children, I trust that you see a parallel with my story, yet I still Love God and bother.
@GoosedByTheLight : If you can`t figure the pain and suffering of those children, then maybe you should seek psychiatric help. Yes, I see the parallel, but you admit that there is no answer why he favored you. It just doesn`t make sense.
@lizazoon If you still think that God “favored” me by sending me back here, then you obviously don’t understand what it is to be a NDEr, dead, or alive! No, I can’t figure the pain and suffering of those children, but I think that I’ve got a better idea than you do… and I‘m not the one claiming that to not know demands “psychiatric help”. You only know what you know, and unless you are also claiming to have supernatural powers, you don’t know what these kids went through either.
@lizazoon I just came back to this post and realize that I missed a big one. Yes you are lying, and why I’m so lucky to be tortured in place of children who you claim deserve to be tortured more than me, yada yada, yada, but then you claim that death is punishment?! What the hell kind of NDEr do you claim to be anyway?! Sorry, I could believe that you were a sadist who wanted children tortured in my place, but no NDEr I’ve met, even the negatives, saw death as just a punishment.
@lizazoon Okay, so you ask a question of me unbidden, then you dismiss my answer as “imagination”, then you lie claiming to be a NDEr, then you say that innocent children deserve to be tortured in ways beyond what I would apply to my worst enemy, then you say that people who don’t have your claimed ability to know what others in far away lands experience in death, are crazy, then you again finish by calling me crazy. So which of us really sounds crazy?
@lizazoon You did ask a question which I answered kindly and in good faith. Then you called my answer “a very comforting bit of imagination”. Lets call this claim #1.
Next, did you claim to have had a NDE? You wrote “Well sir I have been there too. And 50 years after that fantasitc experience(thew consequences of which lasted decades) and studying about it, I feel it cannot have been anything else but a wonderful trick of my brain.”… I’d call that claim #2
“why this god, took so much interest in you /? Did you deserve it ? NO !! And then comes again this question about innocent children, who DID NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE.. Why ???”
And
“many INNOCENT, who clearly deserve it more then you or I, do not get any attention from this god”
Which leads me to think that you are saying that “INNOCENT” children deserve to endure the pain and trauma of a NDE more than I do… Claim #3
@lizazoon You also say “If you can`t figure the pain and suffering of those children, then maybe you should seek psychiatric help” Claim #4,
but I counter that it is the ones who claim to be able to “figure” the pain of others who really need the reality check. Pain is experienced, not “figured”, and the experiencer alone is the only means to measure pain. Anything else is imagination, and it was your accusing me of sharing imagination that started this chain in the first place.
@lizazoon Then you write “Just one more comment. Get psychiatric help, you need it.” Call that Claim #5. I’m not going to debate your opinion expressed in this claim, only that this is another claim which you made that you are now denying. Again I ask, which of us sounds crazy in light of all this. Please open your mind and your heart, or at least, please stop posting your judgment and hatred. A heart of stone cannot Love, and a closed mind cant see the truth.
@lizazoon A grace not earned but gifted to me, in the spirit of unconditional Love that any experiencer would recognize as God Itself. So what makes you so certain that these children didn’t get a second chance? First you claim that you know what suffering they endured, and now you claim to know their fate in the afterlife? You claim to know much for one who also claims to know better. So are you a NDEr or are you bitter and filled with hate? It can’t be both!
@GoosedByTheLight : Is it that difficult for you to imagine the suffering of those children beneath the rubble suffocating to death. I do not claim to know anything about the afterlife. I am talking about a second chance here ON EARTH ,like YOU got.
And I would appreciate it if you would keep your silly baseless assumptions about my disposition to yourself. You will look a bit more credible.
@lizazoon No, not difficult for me to imagine at all. I remember struggling for breath through lungs filling with blood, I remember the panic and adrenalin, and the onset of shock and the peace that followed. I remember the intubations, both through trachea and through my chest wall and side. I remember realizing that I was about to die, and finding peace in this. I would instantly trade places with any of these children you mention, and that’s even before my NDE!
@lizazoon I must admit, I’m now confused by what you are presenting. First you claim to have had a NDE, and now you say “I do not claim to know anything about the afterlife”. So which is it? Okay, you probably didn’t know that we can intuitively sense our own, but lets pick a story and stick with it! Kudos for admitting that you don’t know anything about the afterlife, but that should have come before you made false claims.
@lizazoon If you had a NDE, you’d know that a second chance “here ON EARTH, like [I] got” is nothing special… especially for a child. So why do you think that coming back in this life is better than coming back in the next? Even if you are “lucky” enough to have escaped the scars, nerve damage, paralysis, internal bleeding lasting months, and over a year of physical therapy, there are all the negative aspects of being a NDEr to face then.
no such thing as nde, it's merely the brain's reaction to stress coupled with a desire to have an afterlife. pilots, for instance, experience this quite often.
@wp4866 Yes, NDEs occur in stressful situations, but they also happen in peaceful circumstances too. Yes, religious people do have NDEs, but so do Atheists. If you mean the “desire to have an afterlife” is unconscious and hence still might affect a self-proclaimed Atheist who disbelieves only on the surface, then why is the NDE content not dreamlike as the subconscious normally is? Pilots do have NDEs like everyone else, but not due to G-forces. NDEs are more real than you know.
Your video was beautiful. We sometimes don't need to be 'near death' to experience awesome events. I do, I do I do remember my brith. I am looking for someone else to compare notes, but seriously, not unlike your exerience.
Thank you 4 this encouraging video, it rings of pragmatics, detail and truth, we as people don,t have all the answers and it,s probably safer 4 us this way, it,s good 2 share this .
@SmilingEyes79 Witchery? Witchcraft and sorcery requires the exertion of will, and doesn’t happen accidentally. NDEs, on the other hand are not asked for and come as grace, so “witchery” doesn’t apply. Blasphemy is to speak of God in an impious or irreverent manor, and I have yet to hear any NDEr speak of God with anything less than awe and reverence… Though many alleged “Christians” are too filled with judgment and hatred to have room in their heart for The Holy Spirit and the Love of God.
@GoosedByTheLight Nobody asked for your insignificant and mediocre opinion twit. But you know, i probably am wrong and her whole account of the incident is nothing more than a mere fabrication concocted by an evil little liar. Either way, shes going to burn to a crisp when judgement day is here.
@SmilingEyes79 So, you were going for irony when you named yourself “SmilingEyes”?
“Nobody asked for your insignificant and mediocre opinion twit.”
And who asked for yours? At least mine are respectful, logical, motivated by Love, and potentially helpful. What do yours offer the reader? No, really, think about why anyone would want to read your words; they offer nothing but hatred, condemnation, ego, and judgment. Do you share them to better the world and mankind, or from selfish motives?
@GoosedByTheLight I will show you what irony is. Re-read all the lines of drivel you just typed. Are they not words filled with the same judgment, anger and ego you have so self righteously surmised in mine? How very grandiose of you to believe that your trivial existence and your colloquial opinions might "better" mankind and the world. I saw you behave in a very presumptuous and condescending demeanor in a post to another youtuber. You implied her "accent" and "style" were made up when you
have never encountered her a day in your life, therefore making such an assumption categorizes you as "judgmental". You also proceeded to veraciously critique her statements as she in a sincere attempt made an effort to "better" this world just because she did it in a manner that may not meet with the approval of your narrow minded views. Do you share your views to better mankind or to degrade mankind? To me, that reeks of an overly inflated "ego". Actually, the absurd posts ive been spewing
on here was just a farce to get you to latch on like the rabid dog that you are so that i could belittle your little insipid rants as i have. It was rather easy, being the predictable little sanctimonious insect that you are. Hows that for irony? Have a nice day. : )
@SmilingEyes79 Yes, I am human and make mistakes, but when I realize this, I admit it and apologize. I do not just remove the offending post and act like it never happened, or concoct a cover story about using it to entrap a rabid dog. I am always honest (some might say to a fault), and do my human best to approach all with Love, though I have failed sometimes when the individual is particularly abusive or “sanctimonious”. You have a nice day too, and God bless.
@SmilingEyes79 Oh, and one more thing… the irony is that you started your assault by accusing Doctor Peg of “witchery” and attacked her authenticity, and in the end you were attacking me for questioning the authenticity of a self-proclaimed witch. You even said “you have never encountered her a day in your life, therefore making such an assumption categorizes you as "judgmental". ” Don’t you just Love irony?
@GoosedByTheLight Wow, ive never seen anyone write so much and say so little. Now thats irony. Since the whole premise of my post has seemingly eluded your "bright" faculties, i see youre not worth any further commentary from me. Someone sure did bring out the crazy tonight. :)
@SmilingEyes79 Yes, I admit that if your posts had a “whole premise”, I was not bright enough to illuminate it. I’m sorry to have failed you so horribly, and I wish you and your ego many happy years. Feel free to take your ball to return home the victor, but I only ask that you refrain from attacking others here in the future.
Peace, Love, Joy, and many blessings to you and yours.
@SmilingEyes79 As for my posts to Andulairah, I made a mistake and apologized profusely to her in private messages, and she forgave me for my assumptions. I forgot to go back and publicly recant, but have done so now. Thank you for the reminder. Your interpretation as to my motives was completely wrong however, for my misguided intent was actually to help her embrace who she really is, not realizing that what she presented was genuine. I assumed without all the facts and was wrong.
@SmilingEyes79 Okay, I reread, and no. There’s no anger in my words because there’s no anger in me. With ego, it is always present in any functioning human so I struggle with this too, but I try to keep from writing with it, and I don’t think I was in this case. As for judgment, you’re partly right. I did express judgment as I weighed your words and shared what I got from them, but I also asked you to correct my judgment after your introspection, and didn‘t close the issue or start name-calling.
@SmilingEyes79 So no, I wouldn’t call it “the same judgment” that you have chosen to embody… but that too would be a judgment on my part.
I believe that ALL of our “trivial existence[s]” can better mankind, so there is nothing “self righteous” or “grandiose” about it. You too have the ability to share your Love and light with the world to improve it and to have a positive effect on others, which was why I asked you to read your own posts to see what you are offering.
I'm sorry, but are you attacking Peg? I know "you who don't undestand" are often attacking one another, especially any who is not in your specific camp, but I'm here to tell you that doc Peg is off limits. She had what you call "a deep relationship with God", and any lack in this was only apparent in hindsight after she died and was given a reality check., Unless you have personally died and been given such a reality check, keep it to yourself because you are completely missing the point.
Thank you for sharing your wonderful expierience! God is Love
lizC888 2 days ago
ACCEPT JESUS, OUR SAVIOUR!!!
ItsSoMe2011 4 days ago
I don't know whether NDEs really happen or not only because I have not experienced it myself. But no way I would want to deny the possibility. There is no proof. But then the earth was round even before it was proved to be round. So lack of evidence is not sufficient argument to refute the existence of NDEs.
shottyaiyer 2 weeks ago
:) nice
phillyprodigy09 3 weeks ago
Happy New Year everyone. Peace to all.
PegAbernathy 3 weeks ago
For anyone interested in NDE's should read about a certain neurotransmitter called "dimethyltryptamine" which is responsible for the visions and out of body experience. Just search up "dmtsm" or "DMT the spirit molecule" in the youtube search. Life is truly a psychedelic experience.
markitymark90 1 month ago
this 699 backstab guy would back up anything he says in person, hes a pure jerk who thinks the scientific areana is the only way, well even they are just alot of theories and very little evidence and even they are having these and stating that irelligious jerks need to wake up. no asshole athiest stand up for himself in person, i ran into a few they talk behind ur back but they wont say it to ur face..ive whipped like 5 now, they go crying and softening up real quick. backdown assholes.tis real!
JamesofJesus 1 month ago
There is no gods. There is zero evidence for gods. You will die, it will hurt. When you die you come to an end. There is nothing, exactly like before you were born. Same feeling which is nothing. No gods, in case you didn't get it the first time. Your NDE is as a result of hallucinations from brain oxygen deprivation. Like a computer blue screening. You are weak of character to think anything of your NDE hallucinations. Drop your religion, its fake. Become a Human again and live properly.
699backstab 2 months ago
@699backstab We NDErs are not talking about religion at all, neither belief or disbelief figures into what we are trying to share with you. We are sharing a direct experience, and though you may have your theories to discount our experiences, your theories are just that… theories. I know that my NDE was real, but I respect your right to disagree because you haven’t been there yourself. You do not know, but you will, everyone will one day. Many scientists are convinced without having one too.
GoosedByTheLight 2 months ago
@699backstab Do you have evidence for this? I believe you have zero evidence for this. What is the difference between people with NDE's, who believe in god and people like you? Love... In your message your tone suggests that you think you know everything about life and that you are full of anger. People who believe there is more to life than worldly things believe in love. One thing an atheist a Buddhist monk and a christian can all agree on is that love is the key. Something you clearly lack.
Tinsletooth 1 month ago
@699backstab You can pretend you are happy with your absolute knowledge and point fingers at people to try to make yourself feel smart or what ever your reasoning is. You will live a lonely life and the only people you will have relationships with are arrogant people such as yourself. The only one you are hurting is yourself. P.S. To make a valid argument you need to know both sides. So I suggest you don't respond until you have read the bible or something to validate an argument.
Tinsletooth 1 month ago
@Tinsletooth I dont read the bible od death for the same reason I dont wipe my asshole with toilet paper and then try to read the skid mark. Because its shit. Its fiction, and really bad fiction at that. I don't need to hold my hand on a red hot stove element to know its going to be bad. I don't need to read dogshit bible dogma to know its a farce just like the empty cardboard non thinking troglodytes that think its real. :)
699backstab 1 month ago
I love this video. I believe her 100%. I have always believed in these experiences.
XSNRG123 3 months ago
Thanks for sharing this this is great :D
JesusGodHolySpirit3 3 months ago
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God is ALL loving wow I love my GOD JESUS CHRIST and HOLY SPIRIT and trinity..
JesusGodHolySpirit3 3 months ago
bless you, thanks for sharing this!
algildea 3 months ago
WOW, THAT'S AMAZING ! !
I WANT TO EXPERIENCE A DIVINE INTER-ACTION, BUT, WITHOUT ME HAVING TO DIE ! !
maggieszuky 5 months ago
@maggieszuky try drugs
zoe456zoe 4 months ago
thx
royalmail22 6 months ago
I, too had a NDE in my early 20's after a severe boating accident. I'm a RN and "Born-Again" Christian. Many aspects of your experience mirrored mine. Except I saw Jesus and Mary. Which surprised me because I'm not Catholic. But, I exp. the peaceful feeling and no pain. I've never read words to properly describe it. Upon returning to my hosp. bed, all the severe pain came rushing back. I wanted to write in detail. But, due to character limitations, I couldn't.
AngelDancer314 6 months ago
i am such a person who loves and thrust my lord in every aspect of my life.........i love you my lord jesus and my lord god..........
clivehope1966 7 months ago 4
@clivehope1966 Thats right. Thrust your lord. Thrust him real good.
JudasPriestLiam 6 months ago
@JudasPriestLiam hahahaha
sarahclare 5 months ago
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Hell is a real place. satan is a real entity. Be most careful about these so-called NDExperiencers, as many of them are apostles of satan charged with the mission of duping people into their Pied Piper sham ... while marginalizing Jesus in order to have as many souls cast forever into hell with them!
guyNbluejeans 8 months ago
"because to me the whole tree is good… even your dry little twig"... mmmwaahahaha!!, that is gold!!!
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ihatelumberjacks 9 months ago
From all these NDE experiences we can begin to understand that we come from a place of Love. Not a place of fear. Those who promote love through fear are doing evil, but they don't realize it. Unfortunately the forces of evil have used the Bible to keep millions of people full of fear. This is why "The Devil" is often described as an incredibly deceptive being. People think they are doing good when they are tools of evil. Remember, it's about love, not fear.
numag1 9 months ago
@numag1 Amen to that, my beloved sibling. Thank you for holding true to God’s love, and sharing great truths even with just a few small words. It is so refreshing, considering the turmoil which surrounds it. God bless.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
You are beautiful
drumersong 10 months ago
Word, logos, naam, shabd, kalma, ringing radiance, sraosha, holy ghost, celestial sound, bang-i-ilahi, udgit, akash-bani, music of the spheres, inner light, sach khand, amrit, ruach elohim. I die daily- St. Paul..... If thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be filled with light.-yeshua(all-love,light,f orgiveness,consciousness,peace )
weavermama 10 months ago
THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO LIVE FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. AND, WHY NOT... HE DIED FOR US AND TOOK UP HIS LIFE AGAIN TO MAKE A WAY OUT OF NO WAY FOR US! SO, HE IS WORTHY OF OUR LOVE, OUR LIVES HERE, RIGHT NOW. THIS WORLD IS SO FAKE, SO FLEETING AND IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE FOR TODAY. LIVE FOR THIS WORLD. LIVE FOR THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD. LIVE FOR THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD. BUT, THIS WORLD IS THE SHADOW OF DEATH. YOUR SOUL WILL LEAVE HERE. BE YE ALSO READY SAITH THE LORD.
LPATWILLFILM 10 months ago
THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT SHARE AND MINISTER THE LOVE, THE EXAMPLE, THE TRUTH TO JESUS CHRIST TO ALL! :) TO EVEN THOSE WE THINK THAT ARE THE HARDEST TO WITNESS TO. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY... FOLKS CAN ARGUE ALL DAY ABOUT IF HEAVEN OR HELL IS REAL, BUT HERE IS WHAT WE CAN ALL AGREE... WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS LIFE. THAT'S 100% NO ARGUMENT. AND, IF YOUR SOUL IS LEAVES IN A STATE OF SHAMBLES IF HEAVEN / GOD BE NOT REAL, THEN OK. BUT, IF GOD BE REAL, THEN YOUR SOUL IS LOST 4-EVER.
LPATWILLFILM 10 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Well, you had me ‘til the last sentence. You obviously agree that God exists, but the fate of souls in the next world, however they leave this one, is beyond our ken. We can infer and suppose much, based on scripture, religion, NDEs, other experiences (or what have you), but to state such a fact based on any supposition seems to me to be an act of hubris. I'm glad that you have found truths that speak to you and bring you peace, but be careful not to extend your truths onto God.
GoosedByTheLight 10 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight IT IS GOD THAT GIVES US THE TRUTH! JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! YOU BETTER WAKE UP! JESUS CHRIST IS GOD AND HE MAKES IT CLEAR EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE DIE... HEAVEN OR HELL. TO SERVE JESUS CHRIST... HEAVEN. TO SERVE YOURSELF AND/OR A FALSE GOD... HELL. Period.
LPATWILLFILM 10 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You focus on the truth that God gave, while I’ll focus on the Truth that God is. I did wake up, but I returned to this world of such fitful slumber and fevered dreams, where a pattern in the dream is confused with the entire infinite waking world. You can expect a lot of things when you die, I did too, but it is never anything like anyone expects. Pride is the worst of the mortal sins, so TAKE IT DOWN A KNOTCH, you don’t understand everything, there is always more in the Infinite.
GoosedByTheLight 10 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight Yes, I agree. It's the ego the keeps us in fear and judgment because of its need to control its environment. The ego is afraid of dying because it knows it's not real. So-called religious people live in fear and judgment because they have never really experienced God's Love. That's why NDEers have a unique service to perform in educating people to the Truth. Thanks for your service.
numag1 9 months ago
@numag1 But, how do you feel about NDEers that have had HELL EXPERIENCES, that did NOT come to a place of "light" and "love" and "peace" but came to a place of "darkness" "unadulterated hate" and "torture" and whom have been recorded VIA historical record as in all cases of such NDEs, they CALLED UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST or PRAYED THE LORD'S PRAYER and were given a 2nd chance? Many such NDEers whom were ATHEISTS & CRIMINALS are **NOW** BIBLE-BELIEVING BORN-AGAIN SAINTS. Explain?
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
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@LPATWILLFILM Yes, some have distressing NDE, but what happened just before that? Distressing NDEs are VERY rare, I’ve only met five or six out of the hundreds of NDErs I’ve met or corresponded with, but not one of them were tried or had a life review before hand, nor have I read of one where they were as much as charged with a single sin first. It’s possible that God doesn’t believe in due process, but it’s more likely that they were never even judged… by God at least.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Positive NDEs, which DO have life-reviews, show us a different picture than what you paint. These NDErs say there was no judgment at all, or that they judged themselves, but I’ve never heard a believable/reputable one where any Devine agency had as much tisk-tisked anything they’d done. I concede that distressing NDEs happen, and that invoked heavenly forces pull them out, but aside from your expectations, there is no reason to believe that they were placed there as judgment.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM No, NOT PERIOD. How can you have such a closed mind? Wake up. Love is not based on FEAR. You peddle FEAR based on your archaic interpretation of the Bible. How can a God of Love want his children to live in fear? What you're doing is evil, even though you don't realize it. And you will be judged for it. so REPENT!
numag1 9 months ago
@numag1 Because I HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST JESUS that's how! JESUS CHRIST says MY WAY IS NARROW. WIDE, OPEN, BROAD is the way to "destruction." To be OPEN-MINDED is to have the MIND OF THE WORLD, but that leads to SIN & ultimately DEATH. I don't peddle anything. But, I PREACH HOPE -- THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A LOVE MESSAGE & HOPE TO THE SINNER. But, it is NOT HOPE to the SINNER that LOVES THEIR SIN and desires to LIVE and CONTINUE a life of SIN. That's why it is "frightful to you."
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
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GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You think you “HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST JESUS”? Really? I’ll refrain from asking if He needs to borrow it back when He wants to do sums, and instead ask, why don’t you find this belief blasphemous? I’ve met people who think the voice in their head is God, and people who believe that they know the infinite mind and/or will of God, which is even crazier and the source of much pain and strife in the world today, but you actually “HAVE” Christ’s mind? That’s a whole new level of hubris.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM “Shall the potter be considered as equal with the clay”? Is your ego so deluded that you believe you understand as Christ does? If so, then no amount of Truth will likely sway you from such PRIDE. Even if you are right in all your “Christly” judgments, remember that Christ not only possessed an infinite mind, but an infinite heart as well. I don’t believe that your finite being can contain either, but if you insist on HAVING the mind, try to temper it by adopting the heart as well.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Read 1 Corinthians. The whole book is good, but focus on chapter 13. The one which starts “(1) If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. (2) If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.” And ends “(13) But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I think it’s very relevant to your discussion with numag too. As you read about how nothing in us, or in this world, matters in the least in the absence of Love, remember that God is Love, unconditional Love. Now in light of this (e.g. “1 Cor. 13:5 [Love/God] is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.”), how do you resolve your judgments and condemnations regarding hell? Judgment exists, but in the minds of men, not the mind of God.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight WOW!!!! What I said really flipped you out! :) That is evidence that I touched the proverbial RAW nerve within you. Now, sweetie pie, JUDGMENT EXISTS with GOD. Since you are the BIBLE MASTER please read REVELATION there will be the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT. God is LOVE and that is why HE IS THE TRUE, PERFECT, ETERNAL JUDGE. And, He is FAIR. and JUST. A man whom has rebelled and lusted after the flesh why should he be REWARDED HEAVEN, his "heaven" is here!
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM As usual, it seems that you again aren’t questioning your judgments. You will see only what you are willing to see, even if it is limited to only what you expect to see. I never “flipped out”, from your words or at all, but if it makes you feel proud and powerful to think that you elicited such a reaction in me, I know that I won’t be able to convince you otherwise. Now honeybunch, EVERYTHING exists with God, but that doesn’t mean that God necessarily endorses JUDGMENT.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I’m no “BIBLE MASTER”, never claimed to be, and never thought I was. I’m just a humble servant of God, who reads the bible with humility and an openness to understand, and not just to validate my opinions as some do. I first read the Book of Revelation at age eight and I’ve read it several times since, along with all of the bible, Apocrypha, and I recently started on the “lost gospels” from such as the Nag Hammadi library, and Revelation seems closer to the latter than the former.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM As “THE TRUE, PERFECT, ETERNAL JUDGE”, God doesn’t judge as we judge, so using flawed, mortal, human reasoning to limit “His” judgment is folly. It will always be a mystery to our finite human minds, because we do not see or reason as our Creator does. To imply that you understand the mind and will of God is the height of pride and self-deception. God is the perfect judge, so why do you feel the need to second guess “His” will and weigh in, if not from pride and ego? Be still.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight Conversely a man whom has chastened his soul and walked after the spirit of the Lord forsaking the "way" of his flesh for the WILL OF GOD, why should he NOT be REWARDED HEAVEN? See, if GOD is just then how can he let UNREPENTANT SINNERS, REBELLIOUS and THE PROUD, THE LUSTFILLED all partake of HIS JOY when they have NOT taken up their "cross" and became a LIVING SACRIFICE, but yet that person should NOT be "rewarded" his WAGES of SIN? C'mon! THAT WOULD MAKE GOD UNJUST!
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM In the gospel, we were commanded to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength” and to “'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these”. If not being a “LIVING SACRIFICE” is a deal breaker, then it should at least appear as a third on this list. Paul “urged/beseeched” in Romans 12:1 that we be a living sacrifice, Its not a commandment, and not from God or Christ. Just good advice
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Jesus addressed your concerns about the apparent “injustice” of God’s ways in parables; the prodigal son and the workers in the fields, the tithe of the widow’s two coppers being greater than the great sums given by others from their surplus. Our measures of justice and virtue are not the measures by which God balances our accounts, and the denarius belongs to Caesar and its value is set by earthly authorities. God uses “His” own greater systems of measure, so don't limit "Him".
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM “Do not judge or you too will be judged” (Mat.7:1), “Do not judge and you will not be judged” (Luke6:37), “in fact, I do not even judge myself” (1 Corr.4:3). (6) ”Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other. (7) For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive?”...
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM “And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are prudent in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are distinguished, but we are without honor. (11) To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty, and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; (12) and we toil, working with our own hands; when we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure;”
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM (13) “when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, even until now. (14) I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children”. (5) Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.”
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight Conversely A man or a woman that becomes a LIVING SACRIFICE UNTO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST should share the SAME REWARD OF HEAVEN to those whom rebelled, satisfied their flesh, pleased their soul in the earth, cared less about the WILL OF GOD and did NOTHING to serve HIM and yet, you think that same person should share HEAVEN with the ONE that REPENTED, OBEYED and CRUCIFIED the deeds of their flesh? You're kidding! HELL AWAITS THE UNREPENTANT and JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF PROMISED IT!
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You're an idiot
ihatelumberjacks 9 months ago
@ihatelumberjacks Well that shows me what you THINK of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. I did NOT say that, HE SAID THAT. You guys want to get to "do what you want" but not have to "pay the price" for doing it. Niether LIFE nor DEATH works that way. There is a "cost" to be the "boss." And, if you want to be the CAPTAIN of your OWN ship, and THE BOSS over your own life and affairs, then there is an ETERNAL PRICE to be paid for that. JESUS CHRIST PAID THE PRICE, but you REJECT HIS WAY, so you MUST PAY.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
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ihatelumberjacks 9 months ago
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@LPATWILLFILM Lol, where's your proof? Oh, that centuries old book that's been misintepreted and re hashed and is basically a big book of Chinese whispers? That constantly contradicts itself? That was written by men, for men (on the most part excluding belittling women)? 'Thats' your proof??... Religion is a disease, a Dis-Ease of the mind, a virus that spreads only in those who have a weak will.
ihatelumberjacks 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM So what makes you an authority on the way death works at all, and how is your opinions of the way life works superior to anyone else’s? You seem to be carrying a great burden of pride and certainty, while judging others for trying to be the “CAPTAIN of your OWN ship”, and you aren’t seeing that you are doing the same through your judgments… only you are proclaiming yourself as admiral over all ships. Release the judgment to God’s capable hands and just Love as you were commanded.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight GOD'S WORD! Which you obviously and conveniently PICKED & CHOOSED what you like that avoids the SIN of MAN and THE JUDGMENT OF SIN. What do you do with scriptures where JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF clearly admonish the SINNER to go and sin no more! What do you do with the scripture where JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF speaks of Hell Fire, weeping and gnashing of teeth for those who lived REBELLIOUS & DISOBEDIENT to Him?
LPATWILLFILM 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM If you refer to the bible as God’s word, I started reading it from cover to cover when ten, finished at twelve, then read it all the way through again. I didn’t skip a single “begat”, and there was no “PICK[ING] & CHOOS[ING]”. I too thought that I understood it, and that didn’t change until I died at the age of 23. (1 Cor13:11) “When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.”
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Not only do I KNOW that I didn’t understand as a child, but I also KNOW that I don’t understand now, because I briefly understood ALL in God’s presence, and every stage of my life’s understanding pales in comparison to that perfection, and I won’t see it again in this life. (1 Cor.13:12) “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.” I know it’s scary to not understand, but you will.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight Let me CONCLUDE your foolishness... YOU'RE AN IDIOT! You pick and choose these little cute verses you love from THE BIBLE, but then REJECT THE BIBLE in its TOTALITY. Doesn't work like that baby! Jesus says make the WHOLE TREE GOOD or CORRUPT. You can't take a dab of God's Word and try to create your own "personal Jesus" this aint DEPECHE MODE. THE BIBLE is 100% the infallible, unfailing, immutable WORD OF GOD or it is NOT. You believe that it is NOT... go with that!
LPATWILLFILM 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I prefer the title “fool”, but when it comes to understanding of our Infinite God… I’ll answer to “idiot”. That’s okay, I Love you and accept you for who you are, and where you are in your understanding, because to me the whole tree is good… even your dry little twig. I know that you still have the potential to bear fruit, and I celebrate that potential in you. I understand that you are lashing out because you feel threatened, but I still Love you as myself when I was there.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM I’ll see your “DEPECHE MODE”, and raise you to a “New Order”. I never claimed “The wisdom of a fool [would] set you free”, because this fool knows his place is not that of savior. We could keep quoting ‘80’s songs if you like, but I believe that actually referencing the bible might be more productive to our ends. I do not reject the bible as you claim, for between the two of us, I’m the only one who has ever referred to it directly. Chaper and verse, please (bible, not top-ten).
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Again, it would be easier and more productive for us both if you could give chapter and verse, so that I could address your specific concerns, instead of having to reference every related mention to what you say in passing. For example, with admonishing the sinner, are you referring to his conversation with (John 8:11) the adulteress? (John 5:14) The lame man? Both examples come from John, but are otherwise very different, so I will be torn by addressing them both.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Your interpretations are very hard to decipher without a reference to their source, so without such references, I will have to leave you to your limited views. I do not have the time to try to interpret your interpretations, and even then, we would be speaking of things even further from their source. We have the bible to act as a middle ground and a reference, so why don’t you want to use it? Do you believe that your understanding and words are superior? Please, actually read it.
GoosedByTheLight 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight What do you do with scripture that says clearly: IF THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY BE SAVED WHERE SHALL THE UNGOLDLY APPEAR? What do you do with scripture that says that GOD'S PEOPLE are the JUDGES OF THE WORLD? What do you do with scripture that says there is a WAY that seem right unto man, but the end thereof is death? What do you do with these scriptures where the LORD JESUS CHRIST CLEARLY POINTS OUT THAT THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH? See, you WANT to deceive yourself that SIN OK!
LPATWILLFILM 8 months ago
@GoosedByTheLight AND, FINALLY... THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST IS TO CALL SINNERS UNTO REPENTANCE. I LOVE MORE THAN YOU EVER KNOW. AND, MORE THAN YOU DO. Because while you are "placating and pacifying" the foolishness (SIN) of your brothers and sisters under the false "guise" of "love" you are NOT really LOVING THEM WITH THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST which is to call them, invite them, show them, encourage them, lead them UNTO REPENTANCE that their SINS be forgiven and that they find HIS GRACE!
LPATWILLFILM 8 months ago
@numag1 I have not offered any "interpretation" on THE BIBLE, an "interpretation" is born out of ambiguity, but JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE IS CLEAR that HE HAS COME TO CALL THE SINNER TO REPENTANCE and that through REPENTANCE (turning from one's OWN will, ways and doings and allowing HIM to lead you, guide you and be LORD so that GOD'S WILL is done in your life and NOT YOUR OWN WILL) that through REPENTANCE you are IN HIM made WHOLE & RESTORED to THE FATHER. But, you guys HATE THAT MESSAGE...
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 Because you are OF THE WORLD and the WORLD says DO AS YOU PLEASE, DO YOUR OWN THING, LIVE ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WILL, DESIRES, EMOTIONS, PLEASURES, THOUGHTS and UNDERSTANDING. And, that is to then live in REBELLION to GOD, for that is then to EXALT ONE'S SELF higher than GOD by trusting that your OWN WAY is more righteous and more pleasing than GOD'S WAY for your life. But, to the SINNER whom DESIRES TO KNOW HIM the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST is THE PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY! :)
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 And, you are right I WILL BE JUDGED for sharing with others such as yourself to TURN FROM YOUR OWN THOUGHTS, OWN DESIRES, OWN WILL, OWN AMBITIONS and just LET GO and LET GOD. TRY HIM. Try HIS WAY. Seek HIM for strenght to be a LIVING SACRIFICE, HOLY & ACCEPTABLE unto HIM. That, I surely will be JUDGED for! But, you too, will also be JUDGED. WE ALL WILL BE JUDGED. So, that's NOT a problem or an issue. The QUESTION IS: For WHAT will you be JUDGED BY GOD for?
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 Will you be JUDGED BY HIM in accordance to seeking to be HIS EXAMPLE, HIS LIGHT, HIS WITNESS and encouraging your fellow man to TURN FROM this SINFUL, DYING & DECEIVED WORLD? OR will you be JUDGED BY HIM in accordance to seeking to be YOURSELF and living a LIFE UNTO YOURSELF and encouraging your fellow man to CONTINUE ON IN A LIFE OF SIN, DEATH & DECEPTION all in the name of "tolerance" "acceptance" and [false] "peace?" Do you realize that, THAT is what you are doing?
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM All I have to say to you is, "Judge not lest ye be judged". I'm sure you know the chapter and verse.
numag1 9 months ago
@numag1 I sure do! And, the REBELLIOUS, SINFUL and UNREPENTANT SINNER sure LOVES that scripture! But, they NEVER FINISH nor COMPLETE the ENTIRE VERSE of what JESUS SAID. They, like you, get stuck on that ONE LINE and chuck out the rest of what HE SAID (which is "picking & choosing"). JESUS SAID judge not lest ye be judged, because it will be measured to you again, so judged yourself FIRST and FOREMOST so that you CAN SEE CLEARLY how to then get that JUNK out of your BROTHER'S LIFE (ie. "eye")
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM "Why dost thou strain at the speck in your brother's eye when there is a BEAM in thine own eye?" Humble yourself and stop assuming you know what is in your brother's heart. Only God knows what's in another man's heart. Jesus warned the Scribes that the letter killeth but the Spirit giveth life. Ponder that.
numag1 9 months ago
@numag1 So, you are PICKING & CHOOSING why are YOU REFUSING TO COMPLETE JESUS CHRIST WORDS... Did HE NOT SUM UP THAT SAME VERSE with... "THAT YOU MAY SEE CLEARLY HOW TO REMOVE THE SPECK FROM YOUR BROTHER'S EYE?" Don't be deceitful. Receive HIS WORD just as it is. And, WE CAN KNOW what is in our BROTHER'S HEART for JESUS CHRIST also says: "Ye will KNOW the tree by the fruit it bears." And, "Out of the abundance of a man's heart doth he speak." So, let's not play games, here. That HURTS you.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 Many such NDEers whom have HAD HELL EXPERIENCES some where NOT just ATHEISTS or CRIMINALS, or of FALSE RELIGIONS, but many were those even IN THE CHURCH, whom believed in GOD, some BACKSLIDDEN but were NOT LIVING in SPIRIT and in TRUTH and in OBEDIENCE to GOD'S WORD. They were serving THE LORD JESUS CHRIST with their words, lips, but not ways and lives. Don't be deceived. NOT ALL NDE experiences are recorded as LIGHT & LOVE. It is IMPORTANT to KNOW THAT so that we MAY REPENT OF SIN.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 I invite you to check out PRECIOUS TESTIMONIES Channel right here on YT. They have several NDEers some with HEAVENLY NDEs and some with HELLISH NDEs and it is important to understand that a SELFISH, SELF-SERVING, REBELLIOUS and UNREPENTANT LIFE will lead to HELL. Why? DOES GOD SEND US THERE? GOD SENT HIS SON JESUS CHRIST SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THERE. But, if we CHOOSE to DO IT OUR WAY, then we MUST PAY IT OUR WAY. And, it is a COST already PAID, so only a FOOL would reject!
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 JESUS NEVER intended that HIS WORD be so ridiculously MISUSED and ABUSED to mean NOT TO JUDGE AT ALL. He was giving a WARNING, a CAVEAT and a CLARIFICATION as to WHEN to JUDGE and HOW TO JUDGE and HOW NOT TO BE HYPOCRITICAL WHEN YOU DO JUDGE. That is what He is saying (please READ THE ENTIRE VERSE). But, the UNREPENTANT and the REBELLIOUS don't want to do that, because they HATE FOR THEIR SINFUL WORKS TO BE JUDGED. But, THE BIBLE says that through JUDGEMENT we become GODLY SORRY...
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 But, GODLY SORROW works its way unto REPENTANCE. If I am not judged how can I truly discern what is truly GOOD & EVIL? And, if I can not discern what is truly GOOD & EVIL, how then can I REPENT of that which is EVIL and aspire and inspire to do that which is GOOD? JUDGEMENT in of itself is NOT WRONG (it is only when WRONG JUDGMENT is being administered that it is wrong i.e., false judgment or hypocritical judgment) THAT'S WRONG! Because JUDGEMENT MUST BE IN TRUTH by charge & example.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 That is why THE BIBLE says it is BETTER that WE JUDGE OURSELVES and it says THAT GOD'S PEOPLE ARE THE JUDGES OF THE WORLD. Why? Because it is better that we get ourselves in check and help each other to get in check so that we may have TIME IN THIS WORLD TO REPENT and CHANGE OUR HEARTS and LIVES, than to LEAVE THIS WORLD and be JUDGED BY GOD. Because if you are judged BY HIM and have NOT been REDEEMED you will PAY THE PENALTY FOR YOUR SINS, but JESUS PAID IT FOR US we simply REPENT.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 But, again... THE REBELLIOUS SINNER, THE UNREPENTANT SINNER, THE PROUD SINNER hates Judgement, hates Repentance and ultimately HATES THE BIBLE and HATES THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. And, falsely judge GOD'S PEOPLE and GOD HIMSELF as unrighteous and "evil" because it requires them to do the ONE THING THEY HATE TO DO, i.e., turn from their OWN way and humble their OWN will and refrain from their OWN works. That's SAD! GOD IS LOVE and HIS asking of us to REPENT is too much for us to do?
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
@numag1 I doubt it. I haven’t caught a single actual citation of chap & verse yet, it seems to be just a single, very long and very LOUD, filibuster of pride and ego.
GoosedByTheLight 9 months ago
@numag1 And, FINALLY there is ONLY ONE FEAR and ONE FEAR alone to be had... FEAR THE LORD! That's a GOOD, HEALTHY and HOLY FEAR. But, the problem is, folks such as yourself you DON'T FEAR THE LORD (which is the beginning of Wisdom) and that is why you can DO the THINGS you can do in this life without any GODLY CONSCIENCE of how what you are doing is affecting THE HEART OF THE LORD, affecting THE CONDITION OF YOUR SOUL and the STATE OF YOUR EXISTENCE. So, if there IS FEAR that's A GOOD one.
LPATWILLFILM 9 months ago
I've been very interested in NDE's for about 6 years now. I've done a lot of research about this topic, and if anyone's interested you can click on my username to visit my channel and then click on the website I've made under "profile". A family member of mine has had a NDE, which has lead me into doing more research. This family member told me about their "life review" (Mostly forgetten, but then had it repalyed with their emotions, including others) And then seeing heaven/ hell.
patriciaz11 1 year ago
All these heart-warming accounts that some of these NDEs report have tones of sincerity that lend them credibility and, yet, one can't ignore the fact that they don't square with the Bible. For all anyone knows, these people could in fact be apostles of the devil, spreading lies for the purpose of leading many, many people into the eternal flames of hell!!!
Btw, Jesus never said, "You're here to learn" (as NDErs claim). However, He did say that life is about separating the sheep from the goats!
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Hi Guy. I hope I’m not giving you the impression that I’m harassing you. I just try to respond to any notable comments on my friends videos, and you’ve been posting here.
I disagree with your contention that NDEs “don’t square with the Bible”. Perhaps not every interpretation of the Bible, and perhaps not some interpretations of NDEs, but the NDE itself matches the Bible itself quite well from what I’ve seen of both. Egos interpreting both have failed to fully understand either.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight That includes NDErs interpreting their own NDEs too. Our souls expand when they leave our bodies, we understand All directly, without limitations, but when we return to flesh, our brains (egos) can’t resolve the infinite understanding which was just ours. We still have insight/understanding which makes it through, but its clips and phrases, out of context. Take everything with a grain of salt, but don’t disbelieve one interpretation because it seems not to square with another.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight The Bible says "the path is straight and narrow and few people choose it." Translation: most people are going to hell when their time in this world is up (not to some loving being of light that accepts them unconditionally). In that regard NDEs don't square at all with the Bible's bottom line.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans I agree with your logic, but less your use of the word “translation”, which usually implies a more literal equality of meaning, and can you please give me the chapter and verse you are quoting? If your “translation” was accurate and undeniable, then I would accept your conclusion. I think a more accurate word would be “interpretation” however, which is why I chose to use it above when talking about biblical interpretations, which you have now kindly offered an example of.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans If this is a quote from scripture (I can’t find it to check its context, but your punctuation implies that it is), then nothing of the excerpt you present implies that “most people are going to hell”, only that few will choose it. I grant that there are dozens of places in the bible which talk of paths, a few narrow, many straight, and even some that are likely related to an avoidance of hell, but they are scattered throughout, and I prefer to stay in context. Please clarify.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Oh, and this NDEr for one, never claimed that Jesus ever said “You‘re here to learn”, but I should point out that I cannot say with such certainty that he didn‘t say it either. Jesus lived many years, and not everything he said was recorded, either in the Bible, or in the many other scriptures which quoted him. If any of those who saw him in a NDE, a vision, or any such (and if it really was him) say that he said it, then he said it. I don’t know what you’re referring to, however.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight In my NDE i didnt see Jesus. Being only 5yrs old when it happened i didnt even know who Jesus was as such. But during the NDE, i knew deep in my soul that something powerfull was at the top of the waterfall that was drawing me to it. I'm not religious atall really but know that the things i saw and people i saw were real. I made a video explaining the details of the NDE. Took many years to finally pucker up the courage to share it for fear i would be looked at as a nut job!
Supportahol 1 year ago
@Supportahol You and I both know how intrinsically real these NDEs are, even if we can’t find a means to convey it to this unreal world. I’m glad to hear you have found a medium by which some portion of it might be expressed, and if you have it here on YouTube, I’d love to see it. Personally, it took me 11 years to gather my courage to talk about it, but I found that there comes a time when it’s better to fulfill our purposes as whackjobs (my preference), than to deny them as the status quo.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans I try to be open to the idea we’re “here to learn”, but I never heard it as a quote from Jesus. Regardless of the source, if it has any truth, it can’t mean that we are here to gain knowledge for any ends, but it is the act of learning itself which could be the only point. After all, if the point of life is just to get knowledge, then life is painfully pointless, because all knowledge and understanding is ours right after death anyway. It need be the learning itself, or nothing.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedTheLight Excellent point. It makes sense to me personally but, again, Jesus was/is the Master and there's no place in the entire Bible where He says we're here to learn and develop our souls. The Bible makes it frighteningly clear that this world is a spiritual battle ground and that it's all about separating the sheep from the goats ... and therefore I have no choice but to wonder if people like yourself are satan's followers and trying to lead people away from Jesus and His word. Sorry.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Yea, I’m skeptical about the “learning” theory myself, but I try not to cross from skepticism into cynicism. I make no claims to understand the reason for life, or even existence in general, so I also try to remain open to the theories of others. I don’t blame you for wondering, or even doubting, my motives and allegiances, but if I ever say anything that seems to imply that I am trying to lead you or anyone anywhere, especially away from your faith, please call me on it.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans I lost my ability to have faith in God’s existence, due to my NDE, and I have wondered ever since if I am now missing something integral to God’s plan for us. Jesus never appeared in my NDE, so I can still exercise faith in him, but it is now impossible for me to extend the same faith toward God. Even if I’m not “missing” anything, I still miss it in other ways. To me, faith is even more precious now, so I would never want to rob another of this grace. Peace and blessings to you.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight the infant doesn't think so much about the umbilical cord.... that worry belongs to the mother. She would LOVE it if the infant loved where he was, loved her, was intrigued by the sounds he could hear, moved around stretching and learning and all the time being one with her and part of her. Everything in life is part of a pattern, like the mandelbrot set. Pregnancy in this life is a great tool to help understand pregnancy in the next life (:
stoephead 1 year ago
@stoephead I agree. “Reality” is a matrix of nested fractals within a universal hologram, and fractal patterns are reflected and refracted into every level of manifestation. That’s much of why I’m so fond of using metaphors, analogies, and parables to describe my NDE and all other subjects that are difficult or even impossible to describe independently. Pregnancy is a good one too, but not the only one, and not a perfect one. At exclusively “this level”, buns don’t get shoved back in the oven.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
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God is one in 3 Persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Father is Creator of the world and Father sent to us his Son to be our Saviour. Son became man, Jesus Christ, from the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit. Catholic faith is true and authority of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is in it. Catholic faith is revealed to us by God. God is Creator and Saviour.1 faith. All other religions are made by men, because man is capable to know God by natural reason as a cause and goal of his existence.
akwinata1 1 year ago
People with these experiences always say there life us changed after. What has changed in your life after that happened
SELVESTER420 1 year ago
Stories such as this - great video by the way - must have something to teach every one of us. No worries if we find our own version of the truth - we can never see everything exactly the same way. There is so much that we can't understand, but one consistent theme is that there is purpose to life and learning to love is a major part of this purpose
hunnyhillbees 1 year ago
@hunnyhillbees I just had to stop and pat you on the back hunny. You seem to get it, as much as any of us do, including those of us who have actually died. Yea, those of us that have been there may be able to share specifics, or even a quote or two from God, but in essence, it fundamentally boils down to what you shared. Though versions of Truth differ, the actual Truth is the same, there is much we cannot understand, and Love is the ever-present and inescapable reality that ties it all together
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
An articulate and compelling account of a NDE. Very thought provoking. The 'going towards the light' recalls the Buddhist Tibetan Book of the Dead which is a text of preparation of the mind for death.
20callenderslady 1 year ago
@20callenderslady I think that the “Tibetan Book of the Dead” was talking about this light too, but according to Sogyal Rinpoche’s “Tibetan Book of Living and Dying”, he says that the Dawning of the Ground Luminosity is not the same light as in NDEs. Though I have not experienced the Ground Luminosity through meditation, I have had a NDE and seen a light that matches it’s description. He didn’t elaborate, so I wonder if he was doubting that the untrained can reach that Bardo. Egoic sour grapes?
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
I would like to say: God bless you, but He already did it ;))
scarry07 1 year ago
You're beautiful. Good bless you.
ABLux33 1 year ago
Awesome! cant wait :)
1kaosjnr 1 year ago
on everyones story theres a tunnel
meghan151993 1 year ago
@meghan151993 Well, not on mine! The tunnel is actually part of the stereotype, and is only rarely part of the experience. It is in large part an artifact of early NDE research, as it was one of the first recurring themes identified in NDEs. It appears in only a minority of NDEs, and in spite of often being confused with what a NDE actually is, it is really just a setting that shows up in one of every four or five NDEs. NDEs are so much more than a tunnel.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Now explain why moslems have nde`s connected with the islamic faith, boudhists with their beliefs ,christians generally with christianity and many have nde`s not connected with religion at all.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon This is because the afterlife is initially plastic in nature. When we die expecting to see Christ, Jesus is waiting. Buddhists see bodhisattvas or the Buddha himself, and Ralphists see a head of cabbage. What we expect to see becomes manifest for us, to ease our transition. All this just means that the Universe (God) is trying to put us at ease, giving us what we expect. God looks past the fact that all religion is only a separation from “Him”, just to put us at ease.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Well sir, that`s a very comforting bit of imagination. Thank you.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Well mam, I’ve been there, and yet you think that I’m the one imagining? I gave you the answer to your question as honestly and completely as 500 chars allow, but instead of listening, you dismiss the answer outright. I did not base the answer on something from a book or religion, but from my own death and dozens of others that I know… but even first hand knowledge is not apparently good enough for you. So who, short of the reaper, would you listen to?
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Well sir I have been there too. And 50 years after that fantasitc experience(thew consequences of which lasted decades) and studying about it, I feel it cannot have been anything else but a wonderful trick of my brain.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Then I believe that you are in the most severe denial that I have ever heard of, or that you never really had a NDE in the first place. Sorry, but the truth is unmistakable for those who have witnessed the disparity between it and this shallow reality, so if you can even bring yourself to doubt that reality in place of this one, you never really had a NDE. trick of your brain perhaps, but not a NDE. I’ll trust your judgment on that, but trust mine on the real thing.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Well sir, if you read about it, you will find that many, and I repeat MANY come to the same conclusion as I did. And some even become atheists. I know exactly what you mean, you don`t have to try and describe it to me, because it is undescribable. Yet ,did you ever ask the question why this god, took so much interest in you /? Did you deserve it ? NO !! And then comes again this question about innocent children, who DID NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE.. Why ???
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon I've met only three including you who have falsely claimed to have had a NDE, one was a born again Christian who was preaching of hell, and the other was a new ager who was trying to sell a book. All three combined make up less than a half a percent of the self proclaimed NDErs that I know. Yeah, like the other two, you have an agenda. In spite of this, you would be the only Atheist of all of them, if you were the least bit believable. Oh and God's interest in me is of grace.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight : It is noted that you accuse me of falsely claiming an NDE. But you carefully tiptoe around the big question. WHY ME ?? You did not deserve it. Yet many INNOCENT, who clearly deserve it more then you or I, do not get any attention from this god, to the contrary, they seem to be punished for no reason, Answer this question and your claim of a supernatural event might have some legitimacy.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Why me? How can I possibly answer that to someone who claims to know the pain and fate of children from far away lands? Why me? Because my brother was born as a paranoid schizophrenic who one day decided to sneak into my bedroom and stab me while I slept. My own brother stabbed me five times before I could get away from him, and that’s why me. Knowing that you see injustice in the fate of these children, I trust that you see a parallel with my story, yet I still Love God and bother.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight : If you can`t figure the pain and suffering of those children, then maybe you should seek psychiatric help. Yes, I see the parallel, but you admit that there is no answer why he favored you. It just doesn`t make sense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon If you still think that God “favored” me by sending me back here, then you obviously don’t understand what it is to be a NDEr, dead, or alive! No, I can’t figure the pain and suffering of those children, but I think that I’ve got a better idea than you do… and I‘m not the one claiming that to not know demands “psychiatric help”. You only know what you know, and unless you are also claiming to have supernatural powers, you don’t know what these kids went through either.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon I just came back to this post and realize that I missed a big one. Yes you are lying, and why I’m so lucky to be tortured in place of children who you claim deserve to be tortured more than me, yada yada, yada, but then you claim that death is punishment?! What the hell kind of NDEr do you claim to be anyway?! Sorry, I could believe that you were a sadist who wanted children tortured in my place, but no NDEr I’ve met, even the negatives, saw death as just a punishment.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Just one more comment. Get psychiatric help, you need it.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Okay, so you ask a question of me unbidden, then you dismiss my answer as “imagination”, then you lie claiming to be a NDEr, then you say that innocent children deserve to be tortured in ways beyond what I would apply to my worst enemy, then you say that people who don’t have your claimed ability to know what others in far away lands experience in death, are crazy, then you again finish by calling me crazy. So which of us really sounds crazy?
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
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lizazoon 1 year ago
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@GoosedByTheLight It`s now more then obvious that you need help. I did not make a single of those claims. Get help.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon You did ask a question which I answered kindly and in good faith. Then you called my answer “a very comforting bit of imagination”. Lets call this claim #1.
Next, did you claim to have had a NDE? You wrote “Well sir I have been there too. And 50 years after that fantasitc experience(thew consequences of which lasted decades) and studying about it, I feel it cannot have been anything else but a wonderful trick of my brain.”… I’d call that claim #2
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
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@lizazoon You then write-
“why this god, took so much interest in you /? Did you deserve it ? NO !! And then comes again this question about innocent children, who DID NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE.. Why ???”
And
“many INNOCENT, who clearly deserve it more then you or I, do not get any attention from this god”
Which leads me to think that you are saying that “INNOCENT” children deserve to endure the pain and trauma of a NDE more than I do… Claim #3
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon You also say “If you can`t figure the pain and suffering of those children, then maybe you should seek psychiatric help” Claim #4,
but I counter that it is the ones who claim to be able to “figure” the pain of others who really need the reality check. Pain is experienced, not “figured”, and the experiencer alone is the only means to measure pain. Anything else is imagination, and it was your accusing me of sharing imagination that started this chain in the first place.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon Then you write “Just one more comment. Get psychiatric help, you need it.” Call that Claim #5. I’m not going to debate your opinion expressed in this claim, only that this is another claim which you made that you are now denying. Again I ask, which of us sounds crazy in light of all this. Please open your mind and your heart, or at least, please stop posting your judgment and hatred. A heart of stone cannot Love, and a closed mind cant see the truth.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon A grace not earned but gifted to me, in the spirit of unconditional Love that any experiencer would recognize as God Itself. So what makes you so certain that these children didn’t get a second chance? First you claim that you know what suffering they endured, and now you claim to know their fate in the afterlife? You claim to know much for one who also claims to know better. So are you a NDEr or are you bitter and filled with hate? It can’t be both!
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight : Is it that difficult for you to imagine the suffering of those children beneath the rubble suffocating to death. I do not claim to know anything about the afterlife. I am talking about a second chance here ON EARTH ,like YOU got.
And I would appreciate it if you would keep your silly baseless assumptions about my disposition to yourself. You will look a bit more credible.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon No, not difficult for me to imagine at all. I remember struggling for breath through lungs filling with blood, I remember the panic and adrenalin, and the onset of shock and the peace that followed. I remember the intubations, both through trachea and through my chest wall and side. I remember realizing that I was about to die, and finding peace in this. I would instantly trade places with any of these children you mention, and that’s even before my NDE!
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon I must admit, I’m now confused by what you are presenting. First you claim to have had a NDE, and now you say “I do not claim to know anything about the afterlife”. So which is it? Okay, you probably didn’t know that we can intuitively sense our own, but lets pick a story and stick with it! Kudos for admitting that you don’t know anything about the afterlife, but that should have come before you made false claims.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@lizazoon If you had a NDE, you’d know that a second chance “here ON EARTH, like [I] got” is nothing special… especially for a child. So why do you think that coming back in this life is better than coming back in the next? Even if you are “lucky” enough to have escaped the scars, nerve damage, paralysis, internal bleeding lasting months, and over a year of physical therapy, there are all the negative aspects of being a NDEr to face then.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
Woah. You were an angel? :]
2k7friends2k7 1 year ago
no such thing as nde, it's merely the brain's reaction to stress coupled with a desire to have an afterlife. pilots, for instance, experience this quite often.
wp4866 1 year ago
@wp4866 Yes, NDEs occur in stressful situations, but they also happen in peaceful circumstances too. Yes, religious people do have NDEs, but so do Atheists. If you mean the “desire to have an afterlife” is unconscious and hence still might affect a self-proclaimed Atheist who disbelieves only on the surface, then why is the NDE content not dreamlike as the subconscious normally is? Pilots do have NDEs like everyone else, but not due to G-forces. NDEs are more real than you know.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
Your video was beautiful. We sometimes don't need to be 'near death' to experience awesome events. I do, I do I do remember my brith. I am looking for someone else to compare notes, but seriously, not unlike your exerience.
lisaleelee10 1 year ago
Thank you 4 this encouraging video, it rings of pragmatics, detail and truth, we as people don,t have all the answers and it,s probably safer 4 us this way, it,s good 2 share this .
oktobercat 1 year ago
Witchery and blasphemy. Satan was behind your experience. Your next stop is a very hot place unless you repent now.
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 Witchery? Witchcraft and sorcery requires the exertion of will, and doesn’t happen accidentally. NDEs, on the other hand are not asked for and come as grace, so “witchery” doesn’t apply. Blasphemy is to speak of God in an impious or irreverent manor, and I have yet to hear any NDEr speak of God with anything less than awe and reverence… Though many alleged “Christians” are too filled with judgment and hatred to have room in their heart for The Holy Spirit and the Love of God.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Nobody asked for your insignificant and mediocre opinion twit. But you know, i probably am wrong and her whole account of the incident is nothing more than a mere fabrication concocted by an evil little liar. Either way, shes going to burn to a crisp when judgement day is here.
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 So, you were going for irony when you named yourself “SmilingEyes”?
“Nobody asked for your insignificant and mediocre opinion twit.”
And who asked for yours? At least mine are respectful, logical, motivated by Love, and potentially helpful. What do yours offer the reader? No, really, think about why anyone would want to read your words; they offer nothing but hatred, condemnation, ego, and judgment. Do you share them to better the world and mankind, or from selfish motives?
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight I will show you what irony is. Re-read all the lines of drivel you just typed. Are they not words filled with the same judgment, anger and ego you have so self righteously surmised in mine? How very grandiose of you to believe that your trivial existence and your colloquial opinions might "better" mankind and the world. I saw you behave in a very presumptuous and condescending demeanor in a post to another youtuber. You implied her "accent" and "style" were made up when you
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
have never encountered her a day in your life, therefore making such an assumption categorizes you as "judgmental". You also proceeded to veraciously critique her statements as she in a sincere attempt made an effort to "better" this world just because she did it in a manner that may not meet with the approval of your narrow minded views. Do you share your views to better mankind or to degrade mankind? To me, that reeks of an overly inflated "ego". Actually, the absurd posts ive been spewing
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
on here was just a farce to get you to latch on like the rabid dog that you are so that i could belittle your little insipid rants as i have. It was rather easy, being the predictable little sanctimonious insect that you are. Hows that for irony? Have a nice day. : )
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 Yes, I am human and make mistakes, but when I realize this, I admit it and apologize. I do not just remove the offending post and act like it never happened, or concoct a cover story about using it to entrap a rabid dog. I am always honest (some might say to a fault), and do my human best to approach all with Love, though I have failed sometimes when the individual is particularly abusive or “sanctimonious”. You have a nice day too, and God bless.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 Oh, and one more thing… the irony is that you started your assault by accusing Doctor Peg of “witchery” and attacked her authenticity, and in the end you were attacking me for questioning the authenticity of a self-proclaimed witch. You even said “you have never encountered her a day in your life, therefore making such an assumption categorizes you as "judgmental". ” Don’t you just Love irony?
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@GoosedByTheLight Wow, ive never seen anyone write so much and say so little. Now thats irony. Since the whole premise of my post has seemingly eluded your "bright" faculties, i see youre not worth any further commentary from me. Someone sure did bring out the crazy tonight. :)
SmilingEyes79 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 Yes, I admit that if your posts had a “whole premise”, I was not bright enough to illuminate it. I’m sorry to have failed you so horribly, and I wish you and your ego many happy years. Feel free to take your ball to return home the victor, but I only ask that you refrain from attacking others here in the future.
Peace, Love, Joy, and many blessings to you and yours.
Steve.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 As for my posts to Andulairah, I made a mistake and apologized profusely to her in private messages, and she forgave me for my assumptions. I forgot to go back and publicly recant, but have done so now. Thank you for the reminder. Your interpretation as to my motives was completely wrong however, for my misguided intent was actually to help her embrace who she really is, not realizing that what she presented was genuine. I assumed without all the facts and was wrong.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 Okay, I reread, and no. There’s no anger in my words because there’s no anger in me. With ego, it is always present in any functioning human so I struggle with this too, but I try to keep from writing with it, and I don’t think I was in this case. As for judgment, you’re partly right. I did express judgment as I weighed your words and shared what I got from them, but I also asked you to correct my judgment after your introspection, and didn‘t close the issue or start name-calling.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
@SmilingEyes79 So no, I wouldn’t call it “the same judgment” that you have chosen to embody… but that too would be a judgment on my part.
I believe that ALL of our “trivial existence[s]” can better mankind, so there is nothing “self righteous” or “grandiose” about it. You too have the ability to share your Love and light with the world to improve it and to have a positive effect on others, which was why I asked you to read your own posts to see what you are offering.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago
If you haven't sought to develop a deeper relationship with God - you are quite foolish..
greg0rius 1 year ago
I'm sorry, but are you attacking Peg? I know "you who don't undestand" are often attacking one another, especially any who is not in your specific camp, but I'm here to tell you that doc Peg is off limits. She had what you call "a deep relationship with God", and any lack in this was only apparent in hindsight after she died and was given a reality check., Unless you have personally died and been given such a reality check, keep it to yourself because you are completely missing the point.
GoosedByTheLight 1 year ago