People complain about emissions from airlines, but being an island filled civilisation there is no practical alternative for travel over ocean. Yet these same people drive around in their cars all day when they're too damn lazy to walk.
I think it's great that Air NZ is introducing this carbon iniative. With an industry that is a slave to the use of fossel fuels it's great to see that they are trying to improve the inevitability of a polluting byproduct.
As much as Air Travel spits a lot of CO2 in the air, how do you want New Zealanders to get around? They live in two islands in the middle of the South Pacific. The nearest land mass to them is 1200 miles away, and that's to ANOTHER island in the South Pacific. Unless you can find a way to build a 6500 mile bridge to Asia and North America, I wouldn't be saying anything.
The amount of unnecessary flights taken between Auckland and Wellington (and the rest of the country) is unconscionable. Air NZ's fraudulent claims of environmental responsibility are the issue here - and It is the Marketing of this lie that produces the problem which manifests itself in a public unable to make informed decisions about how to take responsibility for their greenhouse gas emissions first and how to eliminate these emissions them second.
Those who can't handle taking the ferry can explain to their children that they'd rather have a cheap flight than avert a disaster that is set to cause the extinction of 'most' of life on earth.
How long is a ferry ride between Auckland and Wellington vs. a flight? Because for businesspeople who are on daytrips to Auckland from Wellington, taking a daylong ferry ride isn't an option when they have to show up to work the next morning.
you and your breatheren to howl from the nearest roof top, because someone can't Dis-prove an un UNPROVEN hypothesis?
As for the Tyndal centre...go back and read the research documentation, it quite clearly states that the ASSUMPTION made is that radiative forcing is warming, it takes no account of lower level cloud behaviour, nor the natural feedback of diurnal temperature variation.
Your argument is full of holes, at least I can show you the observations that prove mine.
BTW...the world was up to 12C warmer over the preceeding millenia...care to explain why Polar Bears didn't die out then? particulalrly given the fact that it has been proved that the arctic has been ice free long before man was on the scene
You target an industry that produces 2% of all mans carbon emissions! talk about low hanging fruit. Perhaps if you environazis took a little time to examine the science, and less time following an ultimately failing pseudo religious doctrine, you might actually learn a little about the environment.
What Global warming? it hasn't warmed since 1998, in fact its cooled by 0.7C and the "latest" computer models suggest nothing until 2015, the sky is falling!
Air Travel is the fastest growing source of carbon dioxide in the world, thats a fact. Emissions from aircraft are especially problematic because of the height at which they are emitted and the particularly noxious mix of gases, making them 2.7 times more damaging than the effect of their carbon dioxide alone (known as radiative forcing). (Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research). Tell me of one peer reviewed article that conclusively proves climate change ISN'T man-made....
Air NZ is currently testing alternative bio fuels in their aircraft in an attempt to move away from fossel dependance.
shanetube1984 3 years ago
People complain about emissions from airlines, but being an island filled civilisation there is no practical alternative for travel over ocean. Yet these same people drive around in their cars all day when they're too damn lazy to walk.
I think it's great that Air NZ is introducing this carbon iniative. With an industry that is a slave to the use of fossel fuels it's great to see that they are trying to improve the inevitability of a polluting byproduct.
shanetube1984 3 years ago
But Climate Change IS an option is it?? Is that what you're saying?
hereticutube 3 years ago
As much as Air Travel spits a lot of CO2 in the air, how do you want New Zealanders to get around? They live in two islands in the middle of the South Pacific. The nearest land mass to them is 1200 miles away, and that's to ANOTHER island in the South Pacific. Unless you can find a way to build a 6500 mile bridge to Asia and North America, I wouldn't be saying anything.
dumboe8899 3 years ago
The amount of unnecessary flights taken between Auckland and Wellington (and the rest of the country) is unconscionable. Air NZ's fraudulent claims of environmental responsibility are the issue here - and It is the Marketing of this lie that produces the problem which manifests itself in a public unable to make informed decisions about how to take responsibility for their greenhouse gas emissions first and how to eliminate these emissions them second.
garycranston1 3 years ago
Those who can't handle taking the ferry can explain to their children that they'd rather have a cheap flight than avert a disaster that is set to cause the extinction of 'most' of life on earth.
garycranston1 3 years ago
How long is a ferry ride between Auckland and Wellington vs. a flight? Because for businesspeople who are on daytrips to Auckland from Wellington, taking a daylong ferry ride isn't an option when they have to show up to work the next morning.
dumboe8899 3 years ago
you and your breatheren to howl from the nearest roof top, because someone can't Dis-prove an un UNPROVEN hypothesis?
As for the Tyndal centre...go back and read the research documentation, it quite clearly states that the ASSUMPTION made is that radiative forcing is warming, it takes no account of lower level cloud behaviour, nor the natural feedback of diurnal temperature variation.
Your argument is full of holes, at least I can show you the observations that prove mine.
haughtney 3 years ago
"One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the same greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year."
- Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, November
2001.
15 million Bangladeshi people live in the region that is set to become flooded as a result of global warming by the year 2050.
aucklandffd2008 3 years ago
BTW...the world was up to 12C warmer over the preceeding millenia...care to explain why Polar Bears didn't die out then? particulalrly given the fact that it has been proved that the arctic has been ice free long before man was on the scene
haughtney 3 years ago
What a bunch of fools these people are.
You target an industry that produces 2% of all mans carbon emissions! talk about low hanging fruit. Perhaps if you environazis took a little time to examine the science, and less time following an ultimately failing pseudo religious doctrine, you might actually learn a little about the environment.
What Global warming? it hasn't warmed since 1998, in fact its cooled by 0.7C and the "latest" computer models suggest nothing until 2015, the sky is falling!
haughtney 3 years ago
Air Travel is the fastest growing source of carbon dioxide in the world, thats a fact. Emissions from aircraft are especially problematic because of the height at which they are emitted and the particularly noxious mix of gases, making them 2.7 times more damaging than the effect of their carbon dioxide alone (known as radiative forcing). (Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research). Tell me of one peer reviewed article that conclusively proves climate change ISN'T man-made....
aucklandffd2008 3 years ago
I'm the polar bear!
scratchmeow 3 years ago