The woman asked the wrong question, she asked: "Who publicly supports Palestinians?"
The answer is "Noone."
The woman shouldve asked the right question: "Who publicly opposes Israel?"
The answer is "Almost everyone."
That is NOT THE SAME, because people can see the cruel oppression but they also can see what kind of scumbags the palestinians are and that they are responsible for most of what they go through.
NOONE likes palestinians but MANY hate the jews. That's the status quo.
No one cares a whit about the victims of Israel's unbridled expansion. Except Jimmy Carter,Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Tutu, Jewish Voice for Peace.... You would think with that kind of backing they might get a mention, but we need to help Libya, or punish Syria or sanction Iran anything but help Palestinians.
So the Zionist-controlled media makes it seem like palestinians are the victims?WTF!!
The same Zionist-controlled media who had the audacity to quickly air images of a handful of palestinians celebrating on 9/11 all in an attempt to generate hate towards Arabs and build a case or war?
Nobody could answer rachel's quite simple question. Tyhe claim was made that the media was pro Palestinians. She asked who in the media was pro palestian. The question was avoided
what?? is he living in a fucking cave...media is pro-palestine?? Didn't they just talk about Helen Thomas?? Helen Thomas had to resign from white house press for speaking her mind on this issue because she supports the cause of palestinians. And mainstream media which is the part of establishment will dare be openly pro-Palestine??What a douche...
@Pooternackle5 That is a very effective respose to absolutly nothing that I said. I suggest you find the statement that is a response to and post it there.
@Pooternackle5 That's like saying the Robber is more mature than the vitcim because he is willing to let bygones be bygones. Reverse the position and put the boots of the Palastinians on the Isrealis necks and see if the Isrealis are cool with leaving it that way forever.
There are no powerful liberal parties in Isreal. They just look liberal next to what's running the show.
The americans are just so misinformed about the conflict through pro Israeli journalism they cant have a clear opinoin about the conflict. Maher shows his own ignorance when he says its off their own making. Thats an insane claim. Palestine has been under Israeli occupation since 1967. Jesus christ wake up.
@clickswitchh The Arabs attacked Israel first in 1967. You wake up, in 1948 Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq invaded Israel with vows of destroying it. If the Arabs didnt start the long cycled of wars againts Israel then maybe there would of been peace, read a book do some research on it, I know that the palestenian position is sad, but those same arab country wouldnt let them come tho their country as they deported all the Jews. Situation is complicated dont blame it all on Israel.
@08infidel ?? So Israel didnt attack Egypt ?? Oh no ... I guess historians have to rewrite history then. Israel is a criminal state occupying illegaly by international law Palestinian ladn since 1967 and is urged to remove its settlements from these areas.
@clickswitchh When a country sends 100,000 troops(Egypt) to a contested border region, and another(Syria) 75,000 troops it gives a causes belli for the country in threat to attack in order to preveng a devastating invasion, If we could travel back in time and not let the Israelis do nothing, today there would be no Israel. Israel is a small country, one mistake could cost its very existence especially againts neighbours that were more populous and backed by the Soviet Union. That was then
@clickswitchh The whole notion that Israel is a criminal state is laughable. I do support the Palestenian State, I do support a comprehensible peace solution, but remember that it was the United Nations that gave the authority and legality of establishing a Israeli state out of a partition of Palestine which was British mandate during the time. If any blame the naions that voted to supported this resolution. Dont forget that the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948 whicd didnt help their cause either.
@Pooternackle5 President Carter says in his book and as stated by the UN, amnesty international and leaked documents through wikileaks that Israel is the main contributor for the maintaining of this conflict. What about the right wing crazies in the Israeli goverment who sends gunships into civilian areas to punish and kill women and children. In januara 2009 they attacked Gaza bombing heavy populated civilian areas and was condemed by both the UN and the United States, in many eyes a war crime.
good job, good house, good looking wife or husband, good ivy school is all it takes. you loose your job probably non will remain in your life and/or your family's life. Now, tell me who is your boss?
Google Sabra and Shatila. Jon Meacham and Maher are liars. The media, movies, heck, even CARTOONS (like South Park, the Simpsons & Family Guy) are FLOODED with sublimal pro-Israel, pro Zionist messages.
@MrMllx if you notice, he will shit on the Koran and the Bible literally on a weekly basis, but he has not mentioned Israels crime or the parts of the Talmud that call non Jews cattle.
Too many people don't want to see that the Palestinians do a lot to provoke military action onto themselves; and if the Middle East had been more reasonable, Palestine likely would not have been an occupied territory as early as 1970. What's really unfortunate though is that you've got people believing that the only solution to that crisis is for Israel to just disappear. And what we forget is that idea was tried once in 1947-48 with attempted genocide, and Israel won.
@ShaggyAce Well that sounds like good news then. Problem solved I guess.
I don't have a problem with the idea of the Jews living in their own state as a majority. I just wish they could have picked a place where they wouldn't have had to evict the locals.
@weejockpoopongmcplop That's a load, you do understand right? The Jews throughout the late stages of the 1800's migrated to Palestine because many powers at the time in modern Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia were oppressing the Judaics and forcing them to pay a religious tax. Imagine if you were a homosexual in the United States and forced to pay a civil rights tax in exchange for power not arresting you. And when they migrated, the Mufti of Jerusalem didn't want to share his power.
@ShaggyAce Not in the way it currently does. Either it should be partitioned into Israel and Palestine or Palestinians should have the same rights as Jewish citizens of Israel.
@ShaggyAce Partly it is, sure. I think the Zionists have to share a pretty big portion of the blame though for embarking on the whole misguided venture that is Israel in the first place.
@weejockpoopongmcplop That's incorrect. We keep using Zionism as if it is a term to describe every Israeli citizen. We also have to correct the mistake made by this kind of ignorance -- they (Israel) embarked on the "quest" to create an Israeli state because the Arab Legion, under British training, attempted to evict and kill the Judaics in modern Israel. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni was the man who oversaw military operations over there. You should learn your history first before buying into bigotry
@NanaPudden I never use the term in that context. As I understand it, Israel is a reasonably liberal state and I am sure most Israeli citizens are perfectly delightful. The Zionists were the group of (mostly atheist) Jews who wanted to found a settler state in the MIddle East.
I fail to see how citicism of some of Israel's behaviour qualifies as "bigotry". If I deplore the Sabra and Shatila massacre, that makes me a bigot? Your "history" seems rather one-sided. Israel is not entirely innocent.
@NanaPudden Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni(Scary Muslim Name) initially fought against the British, then fought against the Jewish people when they came to conquer Palestine. He died in battle. The problem with Zionists is that you treat every adversary towards Israel like he's a fuckin Nazi!! The way you wrote it was like he was Hitler and overseeing massacres towards innocent Jewish victims. It was actual war. Both sides fought, both sides killed, both sides died!
The situation in Gaza is tragic. It is partly of their own making. This does NOT mean that Israel is immune to criticism of their policies regarding the Palestinians.
If a girl in revealing clothes walks through a bad area late at night and gets raped you could say that it was partly her own fault but you should not say that the rapist wasn't doing anything wrong.
Bill Maher is missing a few cards in this trick. It is simply not true that all news media are pro-Palestine. That is not the sentiment of anyone, what Americans overwhelmingly feel is that media reinforces an Ideology that Israel is only trying to defend itself...which is =exactly the same line of bullshit Maher spews. How can Maher lie and keep a straight face? His statement is beyond all facts and violates all reason of logic! Maher is comic-moronic, at best, and at worst, he is untruthful.
If he says, "partly it's tragic because of their own making," referring to the Palestinians, that means it's also partly not. This is saying the Israelis are also responsible. How is he being unreasonable and "another Zionist" by saying they are both responsible? If anything, he's being objective by sharing blame.
Maher finally says something intelligent and true and his audience sits there dead silent.Had he added "Bush lied,people died"at the end they would have exploded into applause
too stupid....they read the script is all they do mahar. They took your show from you a while back, now your in line walking lockstep with 'em now. Lace up your jackboots bill you little traitor psyop pentagon payroll little troll.. Hey, payROLL, tROLL. I rhymed. hehehhe. If I was a female and a slut, I could make cds like dude gaga. She was a cute little chick but she is gonna be dog ugly woman. wheww. can you say...NASTYYYYYYY!
@sssssjjjj1 People who believe this INSANITY of the US government or allies attacking the US on 911 are suferring from a similar delusional paranaoia suffured by Jared Lee Loughtner prior to his shooting spree.These thoughts are so bizzare as to suggest preliminary indications of schizophrenia and possible proclivity to violence.Peolple who post this craziness should be tracked
Yeah, Bill, if you resist anything Israel wants to do to you, what happens is your own fault---He can be such an ass kisser sometimes. The big anti-religious "rationalist" who sneers at the science showing 9/11 for what it was....Stay funny, Bill, it's all you got going for you.
@37Dionysos People who believe this INSANITY of the US government or allies attacking the US on 911 are suferring from a similar delusional paranaoia suffured by Jared Lee Loughtner prior to his shooting spree.These thoughts are so bizzare as to suggest preliminary indications of schizophrenia and possible proclivity to violence.Peolple who post this craziness should be tracked
And to all 'the media" and the rest of you people blinded by hatred towards Israel:
If the Palestinians really wanted to improve their lives, they would have taken the MILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars that the US, Europe and Iran constantly throw at them, and instead of building BOMBS and missile launchers, they would make something useful out of it.
But no. Instead of blaming their own corrupt governments, they blame Israel. How convenient.
The concept of war is rediculous in modern times.... If it meant anything then half of the world would be more states to add to the "United" states. We either need to go back to winning wars and owning the territory or forget about it all together. Whatever happened to "to the victor goes the spoils?"
@hmsixsixsix Right, because the human race has advanced so much since those "dark ages" as to make all greed, power lust, intolerance and hatred towards fellow humans a thing of the past!
These days we all live in a world where kindness, love and compassion rule. Why, even politicians are running to NOT be elected into office! Thank god evil is behind us. Let the good times roll.
WAKE UP! As long as humans are humans, there will always be conflict - this isn't an episode of Care Bears.
Maher a fucking idiot and zionist liar. When Rachal asked him who supported the Palestians what polticitans he said most of them do fucking liar. Then he said the palestianian plight if there fault really so its the childern and women fault they live in helll when they make no decision what a fucking twat.
Wow Bill....All these years iv been a fan, but hearing ur ignorant statement "but partly it is tragic of their own making"......Ya asshole, and the Holocaust was also "partly it is tragic of their own making".....Sounds fair to u??? Fucking imbecile.
Yes, he's right. I don't think Israel is lobbing rockets at themselves weekly. They come from that other place.....Gaza's the name.
"It's all the Jew's fault " "The Zionist Propaganda Machine" "Kill the Jews" Yeah, as history shows us, those things aren't too far off from each other. and by the way @Phantomplayz , saying that the Holocaust was at any point the fault of the Jews is just plain wrong. Were they hiding the money in the Jew Caves? Idiot.
@babinator99 Well u retard....if Israel would end its blockade and occupation, then they might have friendlier neighbors. But since Israel is not a real democracy, and its war hungry then its not gonna happen.
1) calling me a retard immediately relegates you in my mind to sub-human species. name calling doesn't equal argument
2) Israel started this blockade to end the weekly rocket bombing of it's cities. Not "Hey let's fuck with the Gazans"
3) War hungry? Israel? The Israel who's got attacked by all countries around it numerous times with the full intention of wiping them out? Who had to defend itself? Sounds quite war hungry.
4) Egypt is also blockading Gaza not just meany-Israel.
2) You clearly do not understand the issue if you think this. The rockets are a desperate and futile attempt by Palestinians to hit back at Israel for its increasing expansion into Palestinian territories. The rockets stopped completely during the ceasefire (This is a fact, its on Israels own state website if you would like to check it) until Israel broke the ceasefire. Now the rockets are deplorable, no sane person doubts this, but Israel knows how to stop them.
3) Hmm. So if I kick you out of your home and leave you to rot on the street, then some of your neighbours try to kick me out, im merely defending myself when I fight back right? What if I kick you out of your second home as well, then force you to live in a refugee camp? Then make a blockade so you and your family can barely eat and live? And a member of your family who I let stay in the house I treat like shit and deny them the same rights as the others in the house?
4) Eygpt is scum as well, like a ton of middle eastern countries- and western/African/Asian countries as well. Other countries also being scumbags does not save Israel from its own crimes.
5) I dont know where to begin with this clusterfuck of an argument. How is having some troops in even remotely equivalent to forcing an entire population out of their homes and villages?
Watch Occupation 101 on youtube, read Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein on the issue. Please.
2) What Palestinian Territories? The one's formerly owned by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria? Never in modern history has there been an independent country called Palestine, therefore they can have no territories. Regardless, how does Israel stop them? and how did Israel break this cease-fire?
3) Irrelevant. Makes absolutely no sense as a response.
4) Egypt is the only country to try for peace other than Israel.
5) Give it a go. Israel's the only country to give up war-won land. Period.
5) The land was never owned by the Palestinians (which incidentally wasn't a name for a group until 1948-ish.
It was owned by Britain, and before that the Ottoman Empire.
So, Israel stealing land from Palestinians? not a chance.
It was won in war. Name me one other country who has been attacked, won the war, and then gave the land back. The US still has troops in Japan and Germany....
Why is Israel held to a higher standard on this than the rest of the world?
@babinator99 "calling me a retard immediately relegates you in my mind to sub-human species. name calling doesn't equal argument".......Umm how about this, babinator99 "Were they hiding the money in the Jew Caves? Idiot."
When u grow up and stop ur crying when someone uses the same language u speak, then ill give u a chance. Till then, u r sidelined as irrelevant.
Maddow asks specifics: who speaks anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian in mainstream media? Complete silence, then they move on to their opposite points without a single example. See what she means, folks?
Bill Maher is expected to challenge his guests. These guests had certain perceptions of Israel/Palestine that made him take the counter position. The lady with the short hair had the best questions and arguments, if you see the entire Overtime segment.
Wow, I thought Maher was a little smart or educated, but he proved me wrong. "but partly it is tragic of their own making"?? Really scumbag?? They cut their own food and medical supplies? Is Maher out of his mind or just sucking up some jew money?
SHAME, it is true though that media is too stupid to understand the conflict and Maher is the stupidest ever. Even when Rachel tried to give him an easy ball to correct himself, he insisted on the lie and sucking up to Israel. What a sham.
i cant believe wat i just heard. bill maher is usually accurate with his his statements. how could he say something so wrong and say it with such confidence???
Yeah, I don't know of any pro-Palestine bias in a single mainstream western media outlet. Just the opposite. Maher must have some extreme bias himself to take such a position.
The lady nailed them when she asked who speaks out in a pro-palestinian or anti-israeli way in mainstream American politics, they had no answer and Maher said something stupid like 'I think most of them do "
He didn't name anyone, and that tells a tale. Unfortunately I think, the fact that Bill's mother is jewish blinds him to the evils of zionism.
That's an issue that Bill will never be able to see clearly. The fact that his mother is Jewish is his bias. The plain, simple fact is that this was started by Israel, as well as how Israel was born: without the approval of Palestine. Forcing people off of the land they live on is not the way to go about it. That rests on the UN for creating this problem.
I seriously doubt Bill Maher is dead wrong and a Zionist propagandist. Palestinians/Hamas like to shoot rockets into Israel, so whose fault is it that the Palestinians are whining and complaining and gettin killed. They're really doing themselves in...
Please, to all of those who find Maher "dead wrong" or a "Zionist propagandist", enlighten me as to what he said that is incorrect? Everything he says in this clip is absolutely true. Other than Fox News, every other major network espouses a pro-Palestinian bias. It's not wildly overt or obnoxious, but it's clear which side the majority of the media stand on.
"But partly it's tragic of their own making" Nobody with first hand knowledge of Gaza would deny this.
O'Reilly, Hannity, Colmes, Beck, King, Maher, stewart, etc etc....where exactly are these pro palestinian media types Maher was talking about? CNN just sacked an reporter for balancing up the coverage in America a little...its not ordinary americans fault that their media give them wall to wall pro-israeli coverage on every event in the middle ease, until a president of the US can get elected without bowing to every request of the isreali lobby things will never change, sad really
Maher is ok but extremely biased against the Palestinains. Jon Stewart put it in context; a people living under tarps and refugee camps without any army, any central HQ, any navy, airforce, airport or organization fighting a nuclear power.
Maher is part of the MSM Pro-Zionist propoganda machine on the payroll of AIPAC
Okay, okay - "of their own making". This is to do with Hamas getting elected. If we take a calmer electoral environment, the UK, and look at the 79-90 period when Margaret Thatcher won elections, outsiders might think the entire country unanimously supported those Tory policies for over a decade. Wrong. Swathes of the country condemned her administration and still do, just as when Bush was elected. You cannot call 1.5 million people terrorist sympathisers because of the ruling party of Hamas.
Bill Maher is ignorant. The Palestinians were kicked out of Palestine by force. Many people in villages were massacred in 1948. Palestinian homes were and still are being demolished by the Israelis. The country in the middle-east that was wiped off the map was Palestine. The earliest known people to have lived in the area were the ancestors of the Palestinian Christians; they were and are called the Caananites. They have lived there for at least 3500 years.
No, I think you are all approaching this in one particular way. Bill Maher is one of the more eloquent non-politician pundits out there. His opinions are usually not that overtly grounded in academic history or anything like that, but they are quite understandable: at least; the way he puts them.
And he does not deny that there is suffering in Palestine, either. In fact I think he has a lot to say on the topic, but this is only a minute and a half clip. He does have more to state.
Thanks so much for uploading this. I was fuming mad after seeing this on Bill Maher's website. This proves a massive bias on Meacham and Maher's part to not even notice the pro-Israeli bias in America! It's beyond the pale.
@Muldfeld You are correct. The media bias here is without question way favorable toward Israel and the Jews and makes it out such that every Palestinian is a terrorist. Maher and Meachem are playing the safe, high, politically correct road. The funny thing is that the most pro-Israel media network is Foxnews.
Bill Maher is a Jew, so is there any doubt as to what his feelings are on this issue? 'We bomb and kill brown kids and you're too stupid to understand why.' How long are we going to let this happen America?
Bill Maher is not a Jew. His father was a Jew and his mother was Catholic and he was raised Catholic. If you know anything about him or his show, he broke out of Catholicism at 13 and is a fervent secularist.
However, I agree with you that Maher is DEAD wrong on this issue.
@RedGaribaldi Maher is simply pointing out the truth! why do you people always try to support the underdog?Even when the underdogs are evil? Oh they are weaker tbey are getting killed we are for THEM!he is right who is a victim here.? The Palestinians are a victim yes of their own poor leadership and intransigence.
@loudcosmicyummy That's horribly inaccurate. Look past the issue without involving your emotions or little man syndrome. Israel exists not because of modern, political Zionism, but because of an assault against the migrant Jewish population in the Middle East on behalf of the Mufti of Jerusalem. He didn't want to share his power, and spent much of the 1910's, 1920's, and 1930's, evicting Jews from their homes, destroying businesses, and killing them. That mans name is Haj Amin Al-Husseini.
Yes, we're way too stupid to understand. Make sure you only give one side of the news, don't interview the other side and kill independent journalists and destroy their videotape. That will prevent us from getting confused.
Maddow asks a perfectly legitimate question: Name one person, be it political or media, that is pro-Palestine as Meacham and Maher agree on? To say that everyone is too stupid to see it a pathetic response. Maddow obviously doesn't see it....does Maher think she's stupid?
These media clowns will not get a cent from my wallet because I don't need cable tv faux news. They are nothing but a bunch of barbies and kens parroting the same old story.
The irony: Maher states that is a complicated issue and then he blames the situations on the Palestinians as a group.
This is not a liberal/conservative issue. Nor should it be a black/white issue. There are a lot of victims and a lot of crimes on both sites. To deny that is naive at best. Sadly most people seem to make it black and white and blame all violence on one site while the excuse all violence on the other site as "self-defense". (Both camps are doing this.)
FUCK U MAHER
o1o1s1 1 week ago
PEOPLE PLEASE!
The woman asked the wrong question, she asked: "Who publicly supports Palestinians?"
The answer is "Noone."
The woman shouldve asked the right question: "Who publicly opposes Israel?"
The answer is "Almost everyone."
That is NOT THE SAME, because people can see the cruel oppression but they also can see what kind of scumbags the palestinians are and that they are responsible for most of what they go through.
NOONE likes palestinians but MANY hate the jews. That's the status quo.
sooperfukker 2 months ago
No one cares a whit about the victims of Israel's unbridled expansion. Except Jimmy Carter,Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Tutu, Jewish Voice for Peace.... You would think with that kind of backing they might get a mention, but we need to help Libya, or punish Syria or sanction Iran anything but help Palestinians.
EattherichBuddy 3 months ago
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So the Zionist-controlled media makes it seem like palestinians are the victims?WTF!!
The same Zionist-controlled media who had the audacity to quickly air images of a handful of palestinians celebrating on 9/11 all in an attempt to generate hate towards Arabs and build a case or war?
Maher is a joke!
Chitownboy1023 3 months ago
God Bless Israel! Haters going to Hate
slobbernuckle 4 months ago
Nobody could answer rachel's quite simple question. Tyhe claim was made that the media was pro Palestinians. She asked who in the media was pro palestian. The question was avoided
Uncle99B 4 months ago
"most of them are against israel" ??? WTF??? just goes to show just how dishonest israel lovers are willing to be.
alphamalezbr 5 months ago
Rachel Maddow, brave!! Bill Maher I have lost all respect for you sir.
JuanOfaKind88 5 months ago
what?? is he living in a fucking cave...media is pro-palestine?? Didn't they just talk about Helen Thomas?? Helen Thomas had to resign from white house press for speaking her mind on this issue because she supports the cause of palestinians. And mainstream media which is the part of establishment will dare be openly pro-Palestine??What a douche...
lasku0007 6 months ago
Noam Chomskey, Norman Fikelstein, Christopher Hitchens to name a few
tboladave 6 months ago
@tboladave Noam Chomsky areNorman Finkelstein academics not media and Christopher Hitchens is somewhat in the middle.
GodsGayLover 3 months ago
@GodsGayLover Mmm...They're still pretty dominant in the media though
tboladave 3 months ago
bil maher should be deported to israel and so the next traitor.
it saves america a lot of taxpayers money ( 6 billion $) by deporting these filthy traitors.
yordanosi 6 months ago
As a Canadian, I just want to say fk you Israel. How dare you use Canadian passports while trying to commit an assassination.
TheMattswish 6 months ago
@TheMattswish
I haven't heard about this. Please PM me / comment the details. Once again, f**k Israel for doing that.
MrShyguy0 5 months ago
The question is asked, “Who in mainstream American politics speaks out publically in a pro-Palestinian and Anti-Israeli way?”
Bill Maher says, “I think they all do...” BUT HE DOES NOT GIVE ANY NAMES.
verumdolor 6 months ago 9
@Pooternackle5 That is a very effective respose to absolutly nothing that I said. I suggest you find the statement that is a response to and post it there.
monokhem 7 months ago
@Pooternackle5 That's like saying the Robber is more mature than the vitcim because he is willing to let bygones be bygones. Reverse the position and put the boots of the Palastinians on the Isrealis necks and see if the Isrealis are cool with leaving it that way forever.
There are no powerful liberal parties in Isreal. They just look liberal next to what's running the show.
monokhem 7 months ago
The americans are just so misinformed about the conflict through pro Israeli journalism they cant have a clear opinoin about the conflict. Maher shows his own ignorance when he says its off their own making. Thats an insane claim. Palestine has been under Israeli occupation since 1967. Jesus christ wake up.
clickswitchh 7 months ago
@clickswitchh The Arabs attacked Israel first in 1967. You wake up, in 1948 Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq invaded Israel with vows of destroying it. If the Arabs didnt start the long cycled of wars againts Israel then maybe there would of been peace, read a book do some research on it, I know that the palestenian position is sad, but those same arab country wouldnt let them come tho their country as they deported all the Jews. Situation is complicated dont blame it all on Israel.
08infidel 7 months ago
@08infidel ?? So Israel didnt attack Egypt ?? Oh no ... I guess historians have to rewrite history then. Israel is a criminal state occupying illegaly by international law Palestinian ladn since 1967 and is urged to remove its settlements from these areas.
clickswitchh 7 months ago
@clickswitchh When a country sends 100,000 troops(Egypt) to a contested border region, and another(Syria) 75,000 troops it gives a causes belli for the country in threat to attack in order to preveng a devastating invasion, If we could travel back in time and not let the Israelis do nothing, today there would be no Israel. Israel is a small country, one mistake could cost its very existence especially againts neighbours that were more populous and backed by the Soviet Union. That was then
08infidel 7 months ago
@clickswitchh The whole notion that Israel is a criminal state is laughable. I do support the Palestenian State, I do support a comprehensible peace solution, but remember that it was the United Nations that gave the authority and legality of establishing a Israeli state out of a partition of Palestine which was British mandate during the time. If any blame the naions that voted to supported this resolution. Dont forget that the Arabs attacked Israel in 1948 whicd didnt help their cause either.
08infidel 7 months ago
@Pooternackle5 President Carter says in his book and as stated by the UN, amnesty international and leaked documents through wikileaks that Israel is the main contributor for the maintaining of this conflict. What about the right wing crazies in the Israeli goverment who sends gunships into civilian areas to punish and kill women and children. In januara 2009 they attacked Gaza bombing heavy populated civilian areas and was condemed by both the UN and the United States, in many eyes a war crime.
clickswitchh 7 months ago
I know Bill's mother is Jewish but he came off as a real Zionist loving scumbag here.
TheNosGothica 8 months ago
Some statistics on us news reporting on this issue.
How American News Media Works
youtube.com/watch?v=1kHN0oPwBtk&feature=related
sakkarugzo 8 months ago
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sakkarugzo 8 months ago
who says women don't carry balls.....
good job, good house, good looking wife or husband, good ivy school is all it takes. you loose your job probably non will remain in your life and/or your family's life. Now, tell me who is your boss?
sakkarugzo 8 months ago
Google Sabra and Shatila. Jon Meacham and Maher are liars. The media, movies, heck, even CARTOONS (like South Park, the Simpsons & Family Guy) are FLOODED with sublimal pro-Israel, pro Zionist messages.
bachaka61 8 months ago
Maher's opinion is so off just like Jon Meacham. Only Rachel Maddow spoke the truth.
iHacksorzz 9 months ago
MY LAWD this guy is a fuck head, is this the american equivelent of newsnight of questiontime (England)?
EmpireIraq 9 months ago
Maher is too arrogant to have a serious discussion
xaviqaz 9 months ago
Bill Maher got it right.
darkerforest 9 months ago
Rachel maked a good point and bill gave a non-answer.
MrMllx 9 months ago 14
@MrMllx if you notice, he will shit on the Koran and the Bible literally on a weekly basis, but he has not mentioned Israels crime or the parts of the Talmud that call non Jews cattle.
WinkyMaeve 9 months ago
@WinkyMaeve i have noticed that lately. Also just noticed my typo. Very embarrassing lol.
MrMllx 9 months ago
@MrMllx Yeah i agree with her, and Bill just avoided that question.
iHacksorzz 9 months ago
@MrMllx maked????? learn to spek u fukin foriner!
dem0nthesis 5 months ago
Bill Maher is right.
Too many people don't want to see that the Palestinians do a lot to provoke military action onto themselves; and if the Middle East had been more reasonable, Palestine likely would not have been an occupied territory as early as 1970. What's really unfortunate though is that you've got people believing that the only solution to that crisis is for Israel to just disappear. And what we forget is that idea was tried once in 1947-48 with attempted genocide, and Israel won.
NanaPudden 10 months ago 2
i just came across a hilarious piece about Isreal media bias done by john stewart, watch?v=ovugclIWMEk. Thanks to LiberalViewer.
arslkhalid1984 10 months ago
i just came across a hilarious piece about isreal media bias done by john stewart, watch?v=ovugclIWMEk. Thanks to LiberalViewer.
arslkhalid1984 10 months ago
@ShaggyAce Well that sounds like good news then. Problem solved I guess.
I don't have a problem with the idea of the Jews living in their own state as a majority. I just wish they could have picked a place where they wouldn't have had to evict the locals.
weejockpoopongmcplop 10 months ago
@weejockpoopongmcplop That's a load, you do understand right? The Jews throughout the late stages of the 1800's migrated to Palestine because many powers at the time in modern Iran, Syria, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia were oppressing the Judaics and forcing them to pay a religious tax. Imagine if you were a homosexual in the United States and forced to pay a civil rights tax in exchange for power not arresting you. And when they migrated, the Mufti of Jerusalem didn't want to share his power.
NanaPudden 10 months ago
@ShaggyAce Not in the way it currently does. Either it should be partitioned into Israel and Palestine or Palestinians should have the same rights as Jewish citizens of Israel.
weejockpoopongmcplop 10 months ago
@ShaggyAce Partly it is, sure. I think the Zionists have to share a pretty big portion of the blame though for embarking on the whole misguided venture that is Israel in the first place.
weejockpoopongmcplop 10 months ago
@weejockpoopongmcplop That's incorrect. We keep using Zionism as if it is a term to describe every Israeli citizen. We also have to correct the mistake made by this kind of ignorance -- they (Israel) embarked on the "quest" to create an Israeli state because the Arab Legion, under British training, attempted to evict and kill the Judaics in modern Israel. Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni was the man who oversaw military operations over there. You should learn your history first before buying into bigotry
NanaPudden 10 months ago
@NanaPudden I never use the term in that context. As I understand it, Israel is a reasonably liberal state and I am sure most Israeli citizens are perfectly delightful. The Zionists were the group of (mostly atheist) Jews who wanted to found a settler state in the MIddle East.
I fail to see how citicism of some of Israel's behaviour qualifies as "bigotry". If I deplore the Sabra and Shatila massacre, that makes me a bigot? Your "history" seems rather one-sided. Israel is not entirely innocent.
weejockpoopongmcplop 10 months ago
@NanaPudden Abd al-Qadir al-Husayni(Scary Muslim Name) initially fought against the British, then fought against the Jewish people when they came to conquer Palestine. He died in battle. The problem with Zionists is that you treat every adversary towards Israel like he's a fuckin Nazi!! The way you wrote it was like he was Hitler and overseeing massacres towards innocent Jewish victims. It was actual war. Both sides fought, both sides killed, both sides died!
lebaneseameer 9 months ago
@ShaggyAce Whether they deserve to be vilified or not depends on exactly what the response was.
weejockpoopongmcplop 10 months ago
The situation in Gaza is tragic. It is partly of their own making. This does NOT mean that Israel is immune to criticism of their policies regarding the Palestinians.
If a girl in revealing clothes walks through a bad area late at night and gets raped you could say that it was partly her own fault but you should not say that the rapist wasn't doing anything wrong.
weejockpoopongmcplop 11 months ago
Bill Maher is missing a few cards in this trick. It is simply not true that all news media are pro-Palestine. That is not the sentiment of anyone, what Americans overwhelmingly feel is that media reinforces an Ideology that Israel is only trying to defend itself...which is =exactly the same line of bullshit Maher spews. How can Maher lie and keep a straight face? His statement is beyond all facts and violates all reason of logic! Maher is comic-moronic, at best, and at worst, he is untruthful.
O2streaming 11 months ago
Finally he says something that is 100% correct!
regelemihai 11 months ago
If he says, "partly it's tragic because of their own making," referring to the Palestinians, that means it's also partly not. This is saying the Israelis are also responsible. How is he being unreasonable and "another Zionist" by saying they are both responsible? If anything, he's being objective by sharing blame.
mados123 11 months ago
Obviously
TimThePlumber001 1 year ago
Maher finally says something intelligent and true and his audience sits there dead silent.Had he added "Bush lied,people died"at the end they would have exploded into applause
Junitaco 1 year ago 2
@Junitaco
Unfortunately yeah. I honestly dunno where they're coming from.
regelemihai 11 months ago
Holy shit Jon Meacham, that was not your best moment.
NoRegretsForOurYouth 1 year ago
too stupid....they read the script is all they do mahar. They took your show from you a while back, now your in line walking lockstep with 'em now. Lace up your jackboots bill you little traitor psyop pentagon payroll little troll.. Hey, payROLL, tROLL. I rhymed. hehehhe. If I was a female and a slut, I could make cds like dude gaga. She was a cute little chick but she is gonna be dog ugly woman. wheww. can you say...NASTYYYYYYY!
sssssjjjj1 1 year ago
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@sssssjjjj1 People who believe this INSANITY of the US government or allies attacking the US on 911 are suferring from a similar delusional paranaoia suffured by Jared Lee Loughtner prior to his shooting spree.These thoughts are so bizzare as to suggest preliminary indications of schizophrenia and possible proclivity to violence.Peolple who post this craziness should be tracked
caligula212 1 year ago
Yeah, Bill, if you resist anything Israel wants to do to you, what happens is your own fault---He can be such an ass kisser sometimes. The big anti-religious "rationalist" who sneers at the science showing 9/11 for what it was....Stay funny, Bill, it's all you got going for you.
37Dionysos 1 year ago
@37Dionysos People who believe this INSANITY of the US government or allies attacking the US on 911 are suferring from a similar delusional paranaoia suffured by Jared Lee Loughtner prior to his shooting spree.These thoughts are so bizzare as to suggest preliminary indications of schizophrenia and possible proclivity to violence.Peolple who post this craziness should be tracked
caligula212 1 year ago
Stone is the only honest man there
gibbsies 1 year ago
@gibbsies Stone is an Anti Semite underneath all the bullshit in my humble opinion.
caligula212 1 year ago
@caligula212 That's great, that's just your opinion. I really could care less what he thinks of religious people, but that's just me.
gibbsies 1 year ago
@caligula212 Hes half Jewish you idiot.
6Ott7 1 year ago
Maddow was right, pointing out what the stupid person next to her said..
hassanibnali 1 year ago
And to all 'the media" and the rest of you people blinded by hatred towards Israel:
If the Palestinians really wanted to improve their lives, they would have taken the MILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars that the US, Europe and Iran constantly throw at them, and instead of building BOMBS and missile launchers, they would make something useful out of it.
But no. Instead of blaming their own corrupt governments, they blame Israel. How convenient.
cyantulip 1 year ago
Thank you, Bill Maher, for, once again, telling it EXACTLY like it is.
You're my hero.
cyantulip 1 year ago 2
The concept of war is rediculous in modern times.... If it meant anything then half of the world would be more states to add to the "United" states. We either need to go back to winning wars and owning the territory or forget about it all together. Whatever happened to "to the victor goes the spoils?"
hmsixsixsix 1 year ago
@hmsixsixsix Right, because the human race has advanced so much since those "dark ages" as to make all greed, power lust, intolerance and hatred towards fellow humans a thing of the past!
These days we all live in a world where kindness, love and compassion rule. Why, even politicians are running to NOT be elected into office! Thank god evil is behind us. Let the good times roll.
WAKE UP! As long as humans are humans, there will always be conflict - this isn't an episode of Care Bears.
cyantulip 1 year ago
Maher a fucking idiot and zionist liar. When Rachal asked him who supported the Palestians what polticitans he said most of them do fucking liar. Then he said the palestianian plight if there fault really so its the childern and women fault they live in helll when they make no decision what a fucking twat.
12Aggiefan 1 year ago
Wow Bill....All these years iv been a fan, but hearing ur ignorant statement "but partly it is tragic of their own making"......Ya asshole, and the Holocaust was also "partly it is tragic of their own making".....Sounds fair to u??? Fucking imbecile.
Phantomplayz 1 year ago
"Partly tragic of their own making"
Yes, he's right. I don't think Israel is lobbing rockets at themselves weekly. They come from that other place.....Gaza's the name.
"It's all the Jew's fault " "The Zionist Propaganda Machine" "Kill the Jews" Yeah, as history shows us, those things aren't too far off from each other. and by the way @Phantomplayz , saying that the Holocaust was at any point the fault of the Jews is just plain wrong. Were they hiding the money in the Jew Caves? Idiot.
babinator99 1 year ago
@babinator99 Well u retard....if Israel would end its blockade and occupation, then they might have friendlier neighbors. But since Israel is not a real democracy, and its war hungry then its not gonna happen.
Keep blaming the victims asshole.
Phantomplayz 1 year ago
@Phantomplayz
1) calling me a retard immediately relegates you in my mind to sub-human species. name calling doesn't equal argument
2) Israel started this blockade to end the weekly rocket bombing of it's cities. Not "Hey let's fuck with the Gazans"
3) War hungry? Israel? The Israel who's got attacked by all countries around it numerous times with the full intention of wiping them out? Who had to defend itself? Sounds quite war hungry.
4) Egypt is also blockading Gaza not just meany-Israel.
babinator99 1 year ago
@babinator99
1) -
2) You clearly do not understand the issue if you think this. The rockets are a desperate and futile attempt by Palestinians to hit back at Israel for its increasing expansion into Palestinian territories. The rockets stopped completely during the ceasefire (This is a fact, its on Israels own state website if you would like to check it) until Israel broke the ceasefire. Now the rockets are deplorable, no sane person doubts this, but Israel knows how to stop them.
323157 1 year ago
@babinator99
3) Hmm. So if I kick you out of your home and leave you to rot on the street, then some of your neighbours try to kick me out, im merely defending myself when I fight back right? What if I kick you out of your second home as well, then force you to live in a refugee camp? Then make a blockade so you and your family can barely eat and live? And a member of your family who I let stay in the house I treat like shit and deny them the same rights as the others in the house?
323157 1 year ago
@babinator99
4) Eygpt is scum as well, like a ton of middle eastern countries- and western/African/Asian countries as well. Other countries also being scumbags does not save Israel from its own crimes.
5) I dont know where to begin with this clusterfuck of an argument. How is having some troops in even remotely equivalent to forcing an entire population out of their homes and villages?
Watch Occupation 101 on youtube, read Noam Chomsky or Norman Finkelstein on the issue. Please.
323157 1 year ago
@323157
1) -
2) What Palestinian Territories? The one's formerly owned by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria? Never in modern history has there been an independent country called Palestine, therefore they can have no territories. Regardless, how does Israel stop them? and how did Israel break this cease-fire?
3) Irrelevant. Makes absolutely no sense as a response.
4) Egypt is the only country to try for peace other than Israel.
5) Give it a go. Israel's the only country to give up war-won land. Period.
babinator99 1 year ago
@babinator99 Sure...and the occupation and land stealing is all their fault too eh?
Ur a moron.
Phantomplayz 1 year ago
@Phantomplayz
5) The land was never owned by the Palestinians (which incidentally wasn't a name for a group until 1948-ish.
It was owned by Britain, and before that the Ottoman Empire.
So, Israel stealing land from Palestinians? not a chance.
It was won in war. Name me one other country who has been attacked, won the war, and then gave the land back. The US still has troops in Japan and Germany....
Why is Israel held to a higher standard on this than the rest of the world?
babinator99 1 year ago
@babinator99 "calling me a retard immediately relegates you in my mind to sub-human species. name calling doesn't equal argument".......Umm how about this, babinator99 "Were they hiding the money in the Jew Caves? Idiot."
When u grow up and stop ur crying when someone uses the same language u speak, then ill give u a chance. Till then, u r sidelined as irrelevant.
Phantomplayz 1 year ago
Maddow asks specifics: who speaks anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian in mainstream media? Complete silence, then they move on to their opposite points without a single example. See what she means, folks?
37Dionysos 1 year ago
An honest opinion of Israel in the media is like a C.I.A. investigation of the C.I.A.
hmsixsixsix 1 year ago 2
@hmsixsixsix Brillant and true statement.
12Aggiefan 1 year ago
Bill Maher is expected to challenge his guests. These guests had certain perceptions of Israel/Palestine that made him take the counter position. The lady with the short hair had the best questions and arguments, if you see the entire Overtime segment.
jackjohn6921 1 year ago
Wow, I thought Maher was a little smart or educated, but he proved me wrong. "but partly it is tragic of their own making"?? Really scumbag?? They cut their own food and medical supplies? Is Maher out of his mind or just sucking up some jew money?
SHAME, it is true though that media is too stupid to understand the conflict and Maher is the stupidest ever. Even when Rachel tried to give him an easy ball to correct himself, he insisted on the lie and sucking up to Israel. What a sham.
raybari 1 year ago 2
it's called denial
Darusdei 1 year ago
Maher is an ignorant douche
Frankenpalin 1 year ago
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bigz008 1 year ago
i cant believe wat i just heard. bill maher is usually accurate with his his statements. how could he say something so wrong and say it with such confidence???
ucfbaj 1 year ago
Yeah, I don't know of any pro-Palestine bias in a single mainstream western media outlet. Just the opposite. Maher must have some extreme bias himself to take such a position.
lyn13117 1 year ago
The lady nailed them when she asked who speaks out in a pro-palestinian or anti-israeli way in mainstream American politics, they had no answer and Maher said something stupid like 'I think most of them do "
He didn't name anyone, and that tells a tale. Unfortunately I think, the fact that Bill's mother is jewish blinds him to the evils of zionism.
RepublicanStones 1 year ago 14
@RepublicanStones
That's an issue that Bill will never be able to see clearly. The fact that his mother is Jewish is his bias. The plain, simple fact is that this was started by Israel, as well as how Israel was born: without the approval of Palestine. Forcing people off of the land they live on is not the way to go about it. That rests on the UN for creating this problem.
MrShyguy0 5 months ago
I seriously doubt Bill Maher is dead wrong and a Zionist propagandist. Palestinians/Hamas like to shoot rockets into Israel, so whose fault is it that the Palestinians are whining and complaining and gettin killed. They're really doing themselves in...
Kgbfreak 1 year ago
Please, to all of those who find Maher "dead wrong" or a "Zionist propagandist", enlighten me as to what he said that is incorrect? Everything he says in this clip is absolutely true. Other than Fox News, every other major network espouses a pro-Palestinian bias. It's not wildly overt or obnoxious, but it's clear which side the majority of the media stand on.
"But partly it's tragic of their own making" Nobody with first hand knowledge of Gaza would deny this.
cronoskronos 1 year ago
Show me one person who is pro Palestine in the main stream, minus a few contributors who have to keep their beliefs private.
fathead8489 1 year ago
O'Reilly, Hannity, Colmes, Beck, King, Maher, stewart, etc etc....where exactly are these pro palestinian media types Maher was talking about? CNN just sacked an reporter for balancing up the coverage in America a little...its not ordinary americans fault that their media give them wall to wall pro-israeli coverage on every event in the middle ease, until a president of the US can get elected without bowing to every request of the isreali lobby things will never change, sad really
MQUC1888 1 year ago
Yeah first time I m disappointed in Bill Maher big time
PeterZot 1 year ago
His movie was extremely pro-zionist.
Maher is ok but extremely biased against the Palestinains. Jon Stewart put it in context; a people living under tarps and refugee camps without any army, any central HQ, any navy, airforce, airport or organization fighting a nuclear power.
Maher is part of the MSM Pro-Zionist propoganda machine on the payroll of AIPAC
sammysame 1 year ago
All the Anti-Israel posters here need to STFU, the Arabs treat the Pals like rabid dogs and yet you complain about Israel...
Long Live Israel.....
russkikanji 1 year ago
Okay, okay - "of their own making". This is to do with Hamas getting elected. If we take a calmer electoral environment, the UK, and look at the 79-90 period when Margaret Thatcher won elections, outsiders might think the entire country unanimously supported those Tory policies for over a decade. Wrong. Swathes of the country condemned her administration and still do, just as when Bush was elected. You cannot call 1.5 million people terrorist sympathisers because of the ruling party of Hamas.
PurushaDesa 1 year ago
Bill Maher is ignorant. The Palestinians were kicked out of Palestine by force. Many people in villages were massacred in 1948. Palestinian homes were and still are being demolished by the Israelis. The country in the middle-east that was wiped off the map was Palestine. The earliest known people to have lived in the area were the ancestors of the Palestinian Christians; they were and are called the Caananites. They have lived there for at least 3500 years.
iwinlaw 1 year ago 6
Bill asshole maher Just another Zionist Disinforming Motherfucker Like most of 'em in American Media...Kudos for Oliver Stone...
sansus101 1 year ago
I have lost all respect for Bill Maher... fucking tool
MsDimplecheeks 1 year ago 3
No, I think you are all approaching this in one particular way. Bill Maher is one of the more eloquent non-politician pundits out there. His opinions are usually not that overtly grounded in academic history or anything like that, but they are quite understandable: at least; the way he puts them.
And he does not deny that there is suffering in Palestine, either. In fact I think he has a lot to say on the topic, but this is only a minute and a half clip. He does have more to state.
infernogoalie 1 year ago
Thanks so much for uploading this. I was fuming mad after seeing this on Bill Maher's website. This proves a massive bias on Meacham and Maher's part to not even notice the pro-Israeli bias in America! It's beyond the pale.
Muldfeld 1 year ago 2
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@Muldfeld You are correct. The media bias here is without question way favorable toward Israel and the Jews and makes it out such that every Palestinian is a terrorist. Maher and Meachem are playing the safe, high, politically correct road. The funny thing is that the most pro-Israel media network is Foxnews.
jgrover78 1 year ago
Bill Maher is a Jew, so is there any doubt as to what his feelings are on this issue? 'We bomb and kill brown kids and you're too stupid to understand why.' How long are we going to let this happen America?
Nalhovito 1 year ago
@Nalhovito
Bill Maher is not a Jew. His father was a Jew and his mother was Catholic and he was raised Catholic. If you know anything about him or his show, he broke out of Catholicism at 13 and is a fervent secularist.
However, I agree with you that Maher is DEAD wrong on this issue.
BloggerMusicMan 1 year ago
I like Maher but on this issue he is dead wrong.
RedGaribaldi 1 year ago 51
@RedGaribaldi not really.
22Angst 1 year ago
@RedGaribaldi Maher is simply pointing out the truth! why do you people always try to support the underdog?Even when the underdogs are evil? Oh they are weaker tbey are getting killed we are for THEM!he is right who is a victim here.? The Palestinians are a victim yes of their own poor leadership and intransigence.
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Bill Maher, another Zionist propagandist.
loudcosmicyummy 1 year ago 24
@loudcosmicyummy far from it... lol
22Angst 1 year ago
@loudcosmicyummy
Lord knows we need more of them and less of the Palestinian pro-Hammas apologists.
regelemihai 11 months ago
@loudcosmicyummy That's horribly inaccurate. Look past the issue without involving your emotions or little man syndrome. Israel exists not because of modern, political Zionism, but because of an assault against the migrant Jewish population in the Middle East on behalf of the Mufti of Jerusalem. He didn't want to share his power, and spent much of the 1910's, 1920's, and 1930's, evicting Jews from their homes, destroying businesses, and killing them. That mans name is Haj Amin Al-Husseini.
NanaPudden 10 months ago
Yes, we're way too stupid to understand. Make sure you only give one side of the news, don't interview the other side and kill independent journalists and destroy their videotape. That will prevent us from getting confused.
saadasim 1 year ago
Maddow asks a perfectly legitimate question: Name one person, be it political or media, that is pro-Palestine as Meacham and Maher agree on? To say that everyone is too stupid to see it a pathetic response. Maddow obviously doesn't see it....does Maher think she's stupid?
And Maher's a Facebook friend!!
charlie44441 1 year ago 3
These media clowns will not get a cent from my wallet because I don't need cable tv faux news. They are nothing but a bunch of barbies and kens parroting the same old story.
zigarela 1 year ago
The irony: Maher states that is a complicated issue and then he blames the situations on the Palestinians as a group.
This is not a liberal/conservative issue. Nor should it be a black/white issue. There are a lot of victims and a lot of crimes on both sites. To deny that is naive at best. Sadly most people seem to make it black and white and blame all violence on one site while the excuse all violence on the other site as "self-defense". (Both camps are doing this.)
wittyvegan 1 year ago