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  • well when we get attacked by kool aid jugs and melons i'll by your 3 dollar bullet.

  • So, how are these compared to Glasers?

    If I shot a gel block with a Glaser and one with your product, what would you expect the outcome to be?

  • looking for self defense ammo for my ak 47 i live in a apartment would this be good?

  • @bossman12334 an AK in an apartment is last choice.  pistol or shotgun WAAYYY before AK. your neighbors will thank you!

  • PEOPLE HUNT!! end of discussion, guns were invented to kill FOR WAR!! this ammo EXTREME SHOK is very humane, so if you dont like these gun videos or guns in general DO NOT WATCH IT!! quit whining because people will always hunt,and there is nothing anyone can do about it,also there will always be war and home invasions!! SO MANY PEOPLES LIFES HAVE PROBABLY BEEN SAVED DUE TOO HIGH TECH FRANGIBLE PROJECTILES!!! if you dont like what you see then go watch cartoons, some people are selfish assholes

  • @sinofallsinners

    They're the reason that the tradition of hunting is rapidly dying!

  • @NeoNSPETSNAZ agreed my friend!

  • LOL, lets make a point about the pig example! this is a real world test of the effect of the ammo. I would say that most recent comments come from people that don't hunt. I hunt, even with a well placed shot an animal can still take off and run 100yds before it dies. believe me when I say the boar in this vid died very quick compared to most shots taken in the wild

  • Watermellon?

  • I wanted to eat that.Thanks alot.

  • thats messed up! what did the watermelon do to deserve that!? haha

  • Highly frangible ammunition should only be sold to law enforcement and military.

  • @AdaptSurvive1 So they can use it on us and we can't defend ourselves. I agree. Abuse of power can never happen here. We are far too evolved to fall into tyranny.

  • Are these the rounds the Norwegian nut used?

  • Aren't the Strausburg (sp?) tests performed on animals to determine the effectiveness of a round on flesh?? If you ask me, put a couple of different coats and shirts on that freakin hog to see how it performs as far as penetration with heavy clothing in a cold weather/ heavy clothing senario........

    and then have some of these skirts making some of these comments go make me a bacon sammich....

  • The boar was wounded. The shot in this vid was a second mercy shot.

    How do you identify an amateur?

    He takes a shot even when he's not sure it will hit perfectly.

  • it makes things D E D 

  • disgusting!! to kill animals to sell this crap, why would anyone want to inflict such horror on anything

  • @adultstorelive Hunters?

  • extreme shock, fer all calibers is tha way to go, 1 and ur dun!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anyone who has lived in wild hog country can attest that these animals are the ugliest, nastiest and most destructive animals around and have a fast near unmanageable reproductive system and they should be eradicated anyway. They are a pain in the ass!

  • those poor fruits...they never had the chance to be eaten by a black

  • Great accurate shot on the boar. I hope the BBQ was awesome.

  • From all the fuss about that boar, sounds as if many would prefer human testing instead, which by the way isn't a bad idea. Hell, we could put all the prison population to good use for scientific purposes...

    So how is it that you animal lovers whine about shooting a boar, yet have no problem with violent action films and video games showing immoral conduct and extreme, if fake, violence against human beings? I guess hypocrites never have the stomach for something real...

  • @CyberWar666 Many people care more about animals than other human beings.

  • my god i cant believe you people oh god he shot an animal oh jezz well theres some things youshould know. boars are nasty, agressive, mean, and tear up everything and i mean everything and plus wat are you people doin besides bitching he donated that meat to charities. things get killed its the circle of life cant handle that youre a pussy. and i guarentee 99 percent of you eat meat steak,chicken,pork,bacon and what not you should see wat those slaughter house animals go through ya damn pussies

  • lol its funny how people are fussing about wild hogs and how they are filthy destructive animals, but forget that it was PEOPLE who brought them to these areas. all they are doing is what comes natural, which is eat, shit, and reproduce. cant blame and hate animals for everything, humans are the ones causing all the fucked up shit thats happening on this planet.

  • I'm disgusted with how you shot those poor defenseless watermelons, what were they doing to you? Do you have a permit to hunt watermelons? I can understand you're shooting the hog but c'mon - next you'll be shooting cantaloupes or pumpkins and the next thing ya'know you're a cereal killer shooting boxes of Captain Crunch or fruit loops - you mean evil gun owner.

    Hahaha just kidding - enjoyed the video friend!

  • Hell yeh..kill those hogs! We don't need anymore of em around

  • 28 people must not like wasting watermelon.

  • yeah id rather see you guys shoot some people instead of that innocent hog lol

  • Oh my GOD! freeking hippies! "oh dont kill a boar!" D: Who freeking cares? if they eat the meat it shouldnt matter. Would you rather them go to Iraq and Shoot some people in the face and show you how it is with flesh? no. i didnt think so, most of you normal people eat meat, so shooting a boar is not that big of a deal if they eat it.

    Guns All the way! F gun control.

  • Would have preferred to see more footage of the effects of your rounds on drywall; especially buckshot and handgun rounds that are more likely to be used for home defense than the .50 or .308. I'll have to buy a few and test them myself, I suppose.

  • kudos to extremeshock for producing such a badass round and making this video to show how well it works. pig slaughter and all.

  • jesus christ, all these "Dont show the boar being shot" people either need to STFU, or go sit in front of the pig and let themselves get shot instead. im pretty sure the whole point of showing the hog getting shot was to show the immediate effectiveness of the round. considering that the skin and muscle tissue of a hog is the closest to resembling that of a humans. so not only is it the perfect effectiveness test, but a contribution to thinning the numbers of a well known wildlife menace.

  • Just FYI, wild boar are an invasive species, and are wreaking havoc on the ecosystem in the southeastern USA. And they breed like crazy. They NEED to be hunted and killed, in large numbers, to help protect the native wildlife. Even an environmentalist should be able to understand that. Thank you to Extreme Shock for removing one more of those animals from the environment.

  • enhancement penetration...lol

  • to all you hippie gun control freaks out there, if some madman crashed through your front door, you have 2 options: A- blow his head off. B- allow him to rape your wife and execute you while you wait for the police to arrive. your call.

  • guys, it's an animal. chill out. i guess we should all stop driving cars so we'll stop running over poor little squirrels right?

  • No watermelon is safe!!!

  • LMAO, everyone complaining about the boar being shot. You're watching a video about B-U-L-L-E-T-S , designed to rip through human flesh and organs to immobilize or kill the target and you're worried about a boar who for all you know was used for food. Get off your high horse and go watch some green piece videos and enjoy living in your dream world where guns don't exist.

  • Is this good in 380?

  • That boar went down but maybe next time you should shoot an animal rights activist. They would gladly volunteer to spare the life of a wild boar. LOL!!!!

  • Can you do one with the 38 SPL Air Freedom Rounds?

  • I love this ammo. I feel alot mor confident that it will stop what ever i hit. i also like tha fact that it it wont bounce off an hit someone else or go through a wall and into someone. It sthe most expensive amo ive ever bought at ove $85 shipped for a box of 50 but well worth it to me. I have spent a few rounds trying it out on mellons and milk jugs and it does do what it says. I will continue to buy this amm for personal defense. Would like to see it go on sale thoug...hint hint. lol

  • id still eat tht watermelon

  • When I see some of the comments on YouTube, it tends to reflect the level of the writer, not the educated point of view of their arguments. The fact is, military, law enforcement and many others are NOT into hunting animals. Watching an animal shot to death does very little to prove any point about the purpose of this ammunition.

    Currently the U.S. Air Marshals are using regular hollow-point rounds, not frangibles. I've also learned that there are some lawsuits based on frangibles...

  • @kh2hbTV US Air Marshals use .357 SIG Speer Gold Dot, although a number of them use our ammo, due to the over-penetration of the .357 SIG round. Many marshals are very concerned about over-penetration. There is interest in our ammo, yet these things take time. They have done sooooo much testing with the Speer Gold Dot, they would have to do the same with our ammo before they officially switch.

  • @extremeshock Over penetration? .357 SIG when compared to all other standard hollow point ammuntion, all goes about 12-13" which is ideal penetration levels.

  • @kh2hbTV They cured a nice ham out of that boar and had enough bacon to feed the local homeless shelters in the area. My gosh man lighten up. For real. Unless your a vegan I assume that you ingest animal protein on a regular basis. Does it make you feel better when someone else kills your meat for you wimp. You sound like a woman. Don't tell me the kill was inhuman. That kill was quick and clean.

  • @lnefariousl Ya! Wait until I report this to PETA. I know my firearms and I know how to use them, but I never kill animals or people unless they are threats to others, and then at the absolute point of no other choice.

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  • That boar shit probably cost you a customer.

  • @RussellsParadox Can't please everyone. In the end, flesh is the best identifier for the effectiveness of a round...

  • @extremeshock Wild Boar are a nuisance species that destroy natural ecology. Because we are on top of the ecosystem we have to be its shepard. Conservation should be respected by everyone. We all live here; let us keep that way.

  • @extremeshock

    I have to agree. There's alot of argument out there stating that while the ammo does fragment and is frangible, does it actually penetrate through flesh... they say water jugs, gellatin, etc are fine... but actually flesh and bone they are not sure about.

    Showing the destruction of the hog proves it can penetrate the tough skin and fatty tissue, and still drop the animal dead immediately from the fragmentation in one shot.

    As it should people.

  • @extremeshock May have gotten you one too. Never seen a boar that wasn't head shot drop like that...makes me want to protect my family with that ammo

  • @RussellsParadox If you've ever had a pissed off boar charge you-and honestly when aren't boars pissed off, you'll want that .45 FF to drop that pork chop on the spot. Bon apetite

  • @RussellsParadox Exactly. That boar was hit poorly once. Seeing now why this ammo always comes up as a joke on the forums. CQB between a boar and Mall Ninjas. Stupid all around.

  • @RussellsParadox I'm sorry was you gonna use it for planting?Go put on your apron and have a tea party.

  • @kh2hbTV how does it not prove anything? It looked to be a fairly large hog, and it dropped it stone cold dead...as opposed to a squealing running away to bleed out somewhere in the woods. Much more humane. If you don't like hunting, then that's fine for you, but don't expect the rest of the folks to strapon a tampon for you.

  • @kh2hbTV All animals killed were harvested for the meat - Hopefully, you don't mind if the meat went to charity.

  • @extremeshock - How could you eat the boar after being shot with a bullet that has the composition described earlier in the video? Those granules are much smaller than buckshot.

  • @kh2hbTV I agree... totally inappropriate, and I'm definitely not interested in your product now.

  • you've obviously never lived in an area overrun with wild hogs......this animal needs to be eradicated in any way possible; i totall support using the wild hog to test this ammo....it's a filthy destructive animal hell bent on massive reproduction

  • @HillaryMachinery - Actually that would describe human beings as well.

  • @HillaryMachinery sounds like you have just read out an example of the human race in your last line there !

  • @HillaryMachinery humans are on a massive reproduction too should we shoot them?

  • @379peterbilt530 For the ones that cause destruction for no better purpose than their own pleasure, yes.

  • @SEReamer09 I agree on that 

  • @HillaryMachinery sounds like a few certain races if you ask me...

  • @HillaryMachinery So are people.

    

  • @kh2hbTV Your right, shooting something that is alive makes no sense, that would have nothing to do with real world situations on live humans.... Duh guys.

  • @kh2hbTV Do you have any idea how much damage wild hogs do in a single year? Here in Texas it is $51.8 million a year. I have no problem seeing one die and I wish to see many more do the same.

    Extreme Shock I am sold.

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  • Forensics worst nightmare. Dust... ha ha ha. That being said, thank god for technology that catches crooks and bad guys.

  • SICK

  • umm i gound some disturbing content on extremeshock's website.... "An officer can shoot a rabid dog on a playground with less worry that the bullet will penetrate, hit the ground, ricochet and injure or kill a bystander. " my question is why in the world would an officer just shoot a rabid dog? only in america folks

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  • @thefinner44

    lol, you dolt, it's so it doesn't bite anyone on the playground, and give them the potentially lethal disease known as rabies.

  • @TheFunktasm pretty sure thats what animal control is for... maybe its just america? just sayin u guys are pretty unreasonable when it comes to some things you dolt

  • @thefinner44 A rabies infection left unchecked kills you in a week. IF you survive, have fun with your brain damage! In the meantime, while infected, you're dealing with cerebral inflammation, anxiety, agitation, insomnia, paranoia, and hallucinations. In the later stages you're dealing with paralysis (specifically of the mouth, jaw, tongue and throat muscles) and severe delirium verging on insanity.

    Yes, only in America we try to prevent that from spreading. How barbaric and brutish of us.

  • lol yesterday i was using a 308 with sabot .223 varmint grenades (4117fps) on a mates property to put a dint in his rabbit population... they kinds exploded like the watermellon

  • do they sell a .22lr version of this?

  • AWESOME.

  • Poor melons :(

  • nice video & review although the image quality was kinda shitty.

  • your frangible is great but i bought some fang face 45acp at the last medowview gun show and it is awesome extreme shock ammo is the best in the world anyone who disagrees hasnt shot it yet

  • Can you imagine the F**king mess for the EMTs and coroner to sort through??? ugh.....

  • SAME VIDEO IN 1080p!

    or...

    NEW VIDEO IN 1080p!

  • They wasted all that kool aid...

  • thanx for posting this this really helps find new types of ammos

  • so, in your profesional opinion, which one is the best for home defense against a single armed asailant? I would assume one that doesn't penetrate, but i couln't tell very well from the video which one was which.

  • black people watching this are going noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!­!!

  • @banjoboyjohn - That is why I carry 135g doubletap loads in my 10mm. It is a super light hollow point cruising at 1605 fps.  It is frag-nasty and causes massive tissue damage. All for $35-$40 a box of 50 rounds. Still kinda pricey, but nowhere near the price of this stuff.

  • @KurNorock Wow, someone who not only wants to kill humans, but wants them to explode! Bravo.

  • @madjimms - And what part of that comment leads you to believe that I WANT to kill humans?

    The whole point of carrying a gun for self defense is to stop somebody from attacking you. Unfortunately the only reliable way to do that is to go for an immediate kill shot. It has been proven time and again that FMJs do not cause enough damage to stop an attacker. They may kill them eventually, but by then you could be dead as well.

    Besides, an immediate kill is more humane anyway...

  • @KurNorock Tazers/stun guns can work just as well. Why kill the attacker & let him get the glory? If you need this much protection perhaps you should live in a bunker.

  • @madjimms - Tazer guns are slow and you only get one shot. If you miss, you are dead. The hand held tazers require you to be very close, leaving you vulnerable to knife or club (baseball bat) attacks.  Both the tazers and stun guns can be stopped by thick clothing and the effects wear off as soon as you release the button.

    Besides, the gun is a last resort. It is not as if I am walking around looking for bad guys to shoot. I'd much prefer to just run away if I can.

  • @madjimms - I'd also like to point out that I may not only be protecting myself. How would I stop somebody from harming a family member if I am 30 yards away? I'd invite you to learn a little more about what kind of force it REALLY takes to stop a determined attacker. It isn't anything like the movies where one shot immediately stops a guy in his tracks.

    And after you have gained a little knowledge, you can form a more informed opinion before you post a comment ripping others for no reason.

  • @KurNorock I would also like to point out that the kind of attacks you speak of aren't as common as you make them seem. Unless you live in LA.......

  • @madjimms - lol I was waiting for the "It's not that common" argument to come up.

    How common is a flat tire on your car? Yet you still have a spare. How common is a car accident or a house fire? Yet you still have insurance. How common is a home break in? You still lock your doors.

    Carrying a gun is just a matter of being prepared for those rare times when the improbable becomes reality. No different than a spare tire or home insurance.

  • @madjimms - And I'm sure the people involved in the Fort Hood shooting were pretty sure a lunatic wasn't going to start picking people off that day as well. Wouldn't you agree it was a good thing there was a good guy (girl) there with a gun as well?

    Stuff happens and not just in LA. and not just to other people.

  • @KurNorock SWAT makes MUCH better marksmen than any redneck gun nut like you.

  • @madjimms - AND here is the OTHER argument most used by anti-gun hippies. Suppose you are confronted by somebody hell bent on causing you or your loved ones harm. Do you really think they are going to sit there and allow you to call the police? What if you are walking through a mall and some idiot goes bananas and starts picking people off. How many people will die before SWAT even gets there?

    I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. When seconds count the cops are minutes away.

  • @madjimms - Also, I am not a redneck.  A gun nut? Sure, I like guns. So what? What is your hobby? I also happen to enjoy RC cars, video games, science documentaries, marine aquarium keeping, camping, reading, crafts, and several other hobbies. Care to insult me about them as well?

    And have you ever wondered why the most violent cities in the US are so violent? Because they all have one thing in common. Highly restrictive gun regulations. LA, New York, Chicago, Detroit, etc.

  • @KurNorock Actually, the reason for that is high population density WITH gun violence. Please provide a better source for your misinformation.

  • @madjimms - lol, try looking up what happened in Miami FL when the conceal carry laws were passed. Every single time gun restrictions are lessened, violent crime (including gun violence) takes a dramatic downturn. The reason is that the criminals out there don't want to get shot any more than the good people do. Honestly, if you were going to mug somebody at gunpoint, would you do it in Chicago where you know lawful citizens do not have guns, or in Phoenix where anybody might have a gun?

  • @madjimms - I'd be willing to bet you can't give me a single good reason I shouldn't carry a gun.  Go ahead, challenge on.

  • @KurNorock You must have enemies....... I don't, unless you are my enemy. In that case I DO need a gun, because you have one & I need to protect myself.

  • @madjimms - Nope, no enemies. If I had an actual 'enemy' that caused me to be in fear of my life, I would call the police and let them take care of it. But I am not talking about enemies. I am talking about the guy who rushes out from behind a building as I am walking home from work in the dark. I am talking about the guy on a bad PCP trip who thinks I stole his wallet and refuses to listen. The untrained rottweiler that just got lose in the neighborhood and is charging my niece.

  • @KurNorock 90% of the time when someone gets robbed while carrying a gun they cannot react quick enough regardless of skill. Guns don't prevent crime, they just make it easier for people to access weapons to use for unlawful things.

  • @madjimms - Right, way to make shit up. And lets assume your 90% bullshit number is right. In 2004, there were an estimated 1,367,009 violent crimes

    reported in the United States. Given that there are between 120 and 280 million CCW permit holders that means at least 40% of those involved law abiding citizens with guns. so 10% of the law abiding gun owners reacted fast enough according to you. That is 54,680 lives saved. AT LEAST. Not a small number.

  • @madjimms - Andgiven that your 90% number is total BS that lives saved number is likely much higher.

    And yes, sometimes criminals steal guns. They also steal cars, should cars be illegal? Cars are involved in more deaths than guns are anyway. Criminals also steal prescription drugs, which cause a lot of deaths, should prescription drugs be illegal?

    Do you see yet where your anti-gun talking points fail any minor scrutiny?

  • @KurNorock Because other things cause deaths it justifies it? Americans & their gun rights make me laugh....

  • @madjimms - The point is that responsible, law abiding people with guns VASTLY outnumber the criminals with guns. Making laws to ban or restrict guns has no affect on criminals. They are already breaking the law by having a gun. Passing restrictive laws only takes the guns out of the hands of the responsible people who do not break the law, leaving them defenseless for when the criminals come around.

    Use your brain for half a second and just think about the reality of what you are saying.

  • @madjimms - And I am still waiting for you to give me a single good reason why I shouldn't carry a gun, much less own one. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

  • @KurNorock I gave you several, you just aren't willing to accept them as reality. You seem to have the Christian attitude about defense being given by god..... (don't ask what it is, just look it up)

  • @madjimms - Wrong again! I am an atheist. Wrap your brain around that one. I defend myself because I don't want to die. As far as I am concerned, anybody willing to end my life forfeits their life in the process.

    And you have given me NO reasons at all. So far all you've said is that attacks are rare and SWAT teams have good marksmen. Neither are reasons to not carry a gun, much less good reasons.

  • @madjimms - There are thousands of situations where somebody having a gun on them SAVES lives. Just look up the Luby's cafeteria incident and then tell me honestly that you are glad that woman left her gun in the car. Better yet, look up Penn and Teller Bullshit Gun control here on YouTube. Open your mind a little. Don't let your ignorance of guns cause you to live in fear of them.

  • Hmm...yes, this looks interesting against a watermelon (there is some validity to a "watermelon test"), and I'm sure the results are good in ballistic gel, too. But my concern would be getting past the rib cage. We're of course taught to go for the center of the chest (lots of bone there). A JHP would stand a better chance of getting through that bone, would it not?

  • @sfliberal - These frangible loads are usually traveling at much higher speeds than standard bullets so they have enough momentum and energy to punch through bones and whatnot before they frag out.

  • F... humans.

  • metallica !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!

  • rule #1 there are no magic bullets

    rule #2 all manufacturers and salesman lie

    rule #3 there is a fool born every minute...

    who has absolutely no idea about rule #1 and rule #2

  • lol the bore x_x

  • I belive the 17 HMR was designed with this in mind, plus no ninjas on the box, just good ol Hornady in red.

  • For regular carry, I go with Speer Gold dot or Winchester Ranger-T in my 226. For home defense, where I have reason to be concerned with over penetration, well.......a half pound of 4 birdshot from a full magazine of 12 gauge does wonders. Just my two cents.

  • I really notice a difference in weight when I carry my Springfield XD .40 subcompact loaded with your fine ammo vs. a leaded 185 grn ammunition. I am pleased because the weapon is lighter and I know I still have awesome protection!

  • ninjas, seeing shit explode, and one less hog. sold.

  • @mct601 ROFl how has this (comment) not had more thumbs up yet

  • ill take my .45 acp 230 grain federal hydra-shok everyday of the week

  • poor piggy........I need a great bullet..... preferably one not tested on animals

  • whit ppl abus food, Amrikan spesialy, i hat it.

  • poor pineapple.

  • Metallica

  • what is better Extreme shock or Power ball ?

  • extreme shock is a frangible round a powerball is a hollow point with a polymer BB in the end to make it feed better in semi-auto guns. Both are equally nasty but the ES won't over penetrate.

  • their not ninjas their swats!

  • this ammo is shit dont waste your money, get something with some street credibility, not this over priced horseshit, only place this ammo has is on a plane by an air marshall that is it, i would much rather have winchester silver tips if over penetration is a concearn at home

  • @pjicleanair420 but dude it has a ninja on the box. ha ha

  • ninjas kick ass

  • pause at 0:09

  • I ordered Extreme Shock Ammo for my Glock 45 GAP. I plan on doing a little test. I'm going to fill a 5 glln bucket full of clear gel. Among a couple other things Im going to shoot at. I will film this when I receive my ammo. I am seeing mixed reviews so I figured I have to try it out for myself.

  • Dear Mrpipeherdown,

    Interesting YouTube ID...Do you beat your wife or girlfriend if she doesn't pipe down and be quiet?

    Well, I can appreciate your expert comments. As we know, everyone on forums who report negatively on products are experts.

    I guess the military, our NATO allies, the FBI, DOE, and other US agencies drank the Kool-Aid. We must have hypnotized them with flashy marketing and fast talking, and paid off the buyers to report the product tested as advertised. Whatever....

  • Stated like a true professional. I suppose you have done thorough testing, and this is a statement backed by experience with our rounds.

    Then again, maybe you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • I'd be interested in seeing a verifiable list of Law Enforcement Agencies (local, state or federal) that issue this ammunition.

  • We do not offer a "verifiable list", although I can tell you that the 223 SRT 100gr is the round that is certified by the FBI to be used in their shoot houses.

  • So my department could not call your company to find out which other departments use your company's ammunition?

  • Yes. We could give you a list with permission of the department or agency.

    With what agency or department do you work? You can send private message...

  • Rifle calibers should have sufficient energy to make frangible rounds effective, but typical service pistol calibers do not. This is why the FBI uses such rounds in their rifles but not in their handguns; instead they use the new Ranger T Bonded hollow-points. In response to an earlier statement, older Ranger SXTs may have failed to *expand* when going through heavy clothing--resulting in too much penetration, contrary to what was said--but the new rounds are state-of-the-art in this regard.

  • Handgun calibers do quite well - We urge you to test them for yourself.

  • its great for over penetration within the home, but if you shot a person with this... wouldn't it be a really nasty mess?

  • it looks some what ok, but i'll stick with my .45 acp 230 grain JHP.. this stuff seems more hype than anything

  • Oh, I guess you are right. We better close up shop and liquidate - You are on to us...

  • I can appreciate your comments regarding using what you know. This ammo has been through extensive testing, and is being used in the field. Does the old, consumer box have ninjas on the box. Yes. Is it goofy? Well, one could say yes as well. But don't let the ninjas fool you. it is worthy of consideration.

    By the way, visited your youtube channel. good site. Thanks for your service, and for your tribute to our men and women at war with a ruthless and deranged enemy.

    John

  • @extremeshock my hornady tap ammo doesnt have ninjas on the box i guess i got ripped off. lol

  • @extremeshock ninjas are beast :o

  • @Acurobot - You should see what a 10mm 135g doubletap load can do. These watermelons would have been vapor.

  • @Acurobot ...but it has the word extreme in it..

  • @Acurobot Man what are you talking about, You hear that Metallica playing in the background. Their totally legit!

  • Only if you do not call a crime scene cleaning crew...

  • Could this really penetrate a skull?? I would like to see some videos of your guys shootig coconuts.. Just for a visual.. I'm uo in the air abuot wether these could penetrate a human skull...

  • yeah it can ....and it will blow it up .. simple as that ....

  • It will blow the skull up? I doubt that. Still I would like to see how this ammo performs against a harder target. Watermellons are very weak. The round looks impressive I would like to see more tests/videos..

  • ok myb not blow it up like you see in the movies but the brain will be liquefied....

  • How does that work exactly? What do you mean by liquified? Or is that just an expression? I just don't see how this ammo is better then any other frangibles. I want to see some more tests. I would perform them myself but this ammo is so expensive and I'm still unnconvinced. I really want to know if this can penetrate a skull. Also if this ammo is good for CCW