Enjoyed reading the delusional american comments. Visiting america you would think that they didn't have prisons since crime is so high, everyone carries guns and gangster culture is a national institution. Horrid place.
@asdasdasdfdfd333 I disagree with the horrid place part. Sure, America has a lot of bad places, but it is HUGE. Compared to the UK, (I'm not saying the UK is bad) it is huge. So in theory, the US would have a lot more crime. Sure, the younger generation is fucked up. But not all of the US is bad. I have guns, but do I go around threatening to kill people? No, I just use it for recreation and hunting. I don't understand why people always bash the US. Give us a chance, not all of us are bad.
@vnslykrx When it comes to crime it isn't that there is simply more crime, it's obvious that the more populous the area the higher the crime rate will be. It's that there's more crime per capita, and a higher percentage of citizens in prison.
@Snarfoidosis Per every 100,000 people, there are 183,419 drug crimes in the UK, where in the US, it's 560.1 per 100,000. New York has a population of over 8,000,000 people, and London has 7,000,000. London's crime rate is 7 times the rate of New York's. The reason there are more people in prison per capita is because we prosecute and actually do put them in jail, not just set them free all the time.
@e7l13 Yes, there are less murders, but it is also much harder to get a firearm or other deadly weapon in the UK. We don't arrest people for just stealing biscuits either, but we put many more people in prison than you do for nontrivial matters. I have heard many stories of drug user being just let go, where as in the US, you won't get let go. I don't think the UK is bad at all, I just hate when people say US SUCKS, blah blah blah. Sometimes people are just ignorant. I'm certainly not saying US
@e7l13 is better, but the UK isn't all that great either. We all have our downfalls and I know I'm not changing peoples mind, but I'd rather not be bashed because I was born in the US. My favorite TV shows are British, I love them. Hell, Bill Bailey is hilarious! People just think we're all dimwits when some of us are actually pretty damn intelligent.
@vnslykrx i never said the uk was great and i'm certainly not insulting america, im sorry if it sounded like i was. i just mean that it seems like a lot of places seem to have more of certain crimes. we have our fair share of idiots as well. =)
im sorry if i offended you.
besides i cant critisise a country that makes the batman movies.
Just gonna put this up here for all to see: nationranking.files.wordpress(DOT)com/2011/03/2011-qli2(DOT)png So the US ranks go as follows, Quality of Life - 31st Health - 39th Education - 22nd Wealth - 20th Democracy - 15th Peace - 81st Environment - 52nd Let's compare to, perhaps, Iceland, where I live, Quality of Life - 1st Health - 2nd Education - 16th Wealth - 7th Democracy - 1st Peace - 2nd Environment - 1st
god its soooooo fucking nuts, i get better information from a british comedy show then the media, its alarming that this country NEVER talks about that, ever.
@ColdShaunUK Funny, you're British. You're less educated and far dumber than Americans and your obesity rate is the highest in Europe, only 2% lower than that of the US, and in 10 years you'll be fatter than Americans.
What Pommie faggots like you are known for, hypocritically bashing Americans for faults that you demonstrate in greater degrees so that you can cope with being America's lapdog.
Enjoy being a 3rd rate country that obeys the US like a bitch.
@ColdShaunUK That's just what idiots like you from inferior countries tell yourselves to cope with your jealousy and try to deal with being dependent on the US in every way.
Be more respectful of your betters, you disgusting limey.
@MercenarySlick Sorry, but according to statistics, the U.S. remains at least ten to twenty ranks ahead of Britain in regards to a lack of education, illiteracy and countless other problems with their country. Hell, here's another fun fact about the U.S.; you have the second-highest rates of children under 12 being homeless in non-third world countries. The fact of the matter is, really, that statistically speaking the U.S. remains the worst country in the world ever to live in.
@Terralventhe Every single thing you just said is a lie. Non-Americans like you have to believe in pure fantasy just to cope with being inferior to Americans in every way.
The US is ranked 3rd in the Human Development Index and 7th in the Quality of Life Index (remarkable for a large country) and you said the US is statistically the worst place to live? You're a flat out RETARD. Someone has to be full-blown retarded to actually believe the false shit about the US that you believe.
@MercenarySlick Hahaha, aww, how cute! Sorry, but inferior to the US? I live in Iceland. The country that's been top three in the quality of life ranks for decades now. Our quality of life far outdoes the US on such a basic ground as a 100% literacy rate, compared to the US's poor rating. Not to mention the fact that how can it be ranked 3rd in Human Development when it's responsible for 3/4ths of the entire PLANET'S pollution and allows religion to dictate scientific advances?
@Terralventhe You live in a dull country with no minorities, and you don't border any other countries. Your quality of life is only higher because of this fact.
The US has 99% literacy, that's not a poor rating.
And religion dictates scientific advances in the US? So you're proving you're even more retarded. The US leads the entire world in science. The US is ranked #1 on the technology index and American universities DOMINATE. Google academic ranking world universities
@MercenarySlick I live in a country rich economically compared to your country, with a better democracy, better healthcare, more peaceful (dude, the US ranks lower than EGYPT, despite Egypt having been a warzone recently) and generally just better. As for leading the world in science? Sorry, wrong again, your country abandoned mapping the human genome and genetic research for healthcare on account of religious pressure. You know who DOES lead the world on the gene research front?
@Terralventhe You live in a small, dull country that has never accomplished anything. True the US has problems, but you exaggerate them, lie to facilitate your inferiority complex, and you generally have no idea about the US other than negative propaganda.
And everything you're saying is wrong. The US did NOT abandon the Human Genome Project for religious reasons. Where are you getting your information? Sounds like figments of your diseased imagination.
@MercenarySlick Or it sounds like what your own president stated at a conference a few years ago, stating that the research 'went against God'. Sounds to me, rather, that you will dismiss any kind of factual evidence against you and instead insist that everyone is jealous of how super-cool your country is, even as the rest of us watch you fall apart at the seams cradling your self-denial. I deeply apologize for ever having thought to treat you like a rational individual, at least
@Terralventhe You have no idea what you're talking about. The US never halted work on the human genome project. In fact, much of the funding came from the US government.
The problem with you is that almost every thing you say is wrong and/or hypocritical. It shows that you're not using logic, you're motivated by something else.
And you're saying the US is falling apart. This is utter hypocrisy considering the US is doing much better than Europe and Iceland specifically.
@MercenarySlick Like I said before, you are clearly not a rational individual, seeing as you're dismissing everything anyone has to say as some kind of deep-seated conspiracy fueled by some fictional jealousy of your nation.
The fact of the matter is that the whole world is doing a lot better than the US. Hell, even Russia is better off than you are, as you guys beat them in prison statistics.
But again, I'm wasting my breath, since you'd rather ignore any non pro-US facts.
@Terralventhe If we were to assume hypothetically that everything you're saying is true (it's not), it still doesn't explain why you'd be so obsessed with these perceived faults of the US. I don't spend my life obsessing over problems in other countries. I don't take joy in problems that other countries have.
So even if you were right, you're still a gigantic dick head.
@MercenarySlick and yet the U.S. can't seem to keep themselves out of other countries. The United States is really good at finding loopholes that work to their benefit economically.
@MercenarySlick Except of course the vast majority of that is in the hands of the top 1% - whereas as in Iceland there is a better share of it. It is probably true to say "for the average citizen, iceland is richer than the USA"
@auto98 The vast majority isn't in the hands of the 1% (it's about 40%) but yeah there's more income inequality in the US than there is in Iceland. Developed ountries that have low immigration and small, homogenous populations always have income equality. But even though there's a bigger gap between the rich and poor in the US (due to demographics), the average American is still wealthier than average in the world, and wealthier than Icelanders.
@MercenarySlick@MercenarySlick Well, since you brought up HDI, I should point out that once incom inequality is brought into account, Iceland does come higher than the US - in fact the US slips down to 23rd - check the wiki page "Inequality-adjusted HDI"
@auto98 Do you know what they do when they adjust the HDI for equality? They make equality the most weighted aspect, putting it above everything else. It completely skews the statistics.
Say Country A has low quality of life for everyone but everyone has the same quality, it will score higher than Country B in the equality portion even if everyone in Country B has higher quality of life than everyone in Country A, just that there's a gap between the best and worst.
@auto98 Indeed, that is what I meant by the statement. By a comparative headcount, the average Icelandic citizen is wealthier than any US citizen, and thus, by that standard, we are richer economically when compared to the US. Not to mention the fact that, unlike the US, we are perfectly self-sustainable, as opposed to the US which imports a large majority of all of its products.
@Terralventhe "Not to mention the fact that, unlike the US, we are perfectly self-sustainable"
Wow, you're Icelandic and you have no idea about your own country. Iceland is NOT self-sustainable. You depend heavily on foreign investment, when it dried up you had your financial crisis which made ours look like nothing.
@MercenarySlick "Wow, you're Icelandic and you have no idea about your own country."
Coming from someone who dismisses anything that doesn't kiss America's ass as a conspiracy formed by jealous non-Americans, I find this statement amusing since you profess a far greater ignorance of just how deep in the shit your own country is even at this very moment. I'm done here, continue wallowing in delusions of grandeur, you crazy nationalist.
@Terralventhe I dismiss what you say because all of it is false or hypocritical. In order to bash the US, which is your main goal and probably a hobby of yours, you rely on false claims and you routinely criticize the US for issues that are worse in your own country.
@MercenarySlick You mean the crash that everyone else grossly blew out of proportions, considering that we still rank higher than the US in wealth? Sort of like how the tsunami in Japan was blown out of proportions whilst they were able to get back to normal in a mere 3 months, as opposed to, say, the US which couldn't even clean up the aftermath of Katrina? Go wallow in your delusional fantasies that everyone else is jealous of your country some more, I'll be here in reality.
@Terralventhe "Sort of like how the tsunami in Japan was blown out of proportions whilst they were able to get back to normal in a mere 3 months, as opposed to, say, the US which couldn't even clean up the aftermath of Katrina?"
The reason Katrina didn't get "back to normal" is because everyone left and didn't come back. No point in throwing money at communities that have 4 people in them.
@Terralventhe And I see how you deleted your comment where you said the US ranks 31st in the quality of life index. The US ranks 7th. Google it moron.
Again, this is very good for a large country with a huge minority population and massive immigration from the third world.
And by the way, Iceland DOES NOT score higher than the US on the HDI you fucking belligerent moron. On the 2011 HDI the US is tied for 3rd and Iceland is in 14th place.
@MercenarySlick Actually, I didn't delete it, I reposted it outside of this comment tree in the same chat. And I did google it, or did you miss the image I linked before? If you want, I will happily relink you to it here:
Or are you perhaps going to go the petulant path of claiming these numbers are fiction? Or perhaps that they mean nothing because all of these countries are 'really inferior anyway'.
Seriously you're delusional. The US ranks higher than Iceland in the Human Development Index for 2011. The US is tied for 3rd with the Netherlands. Iceland, your country, is ranked 14th.
Even if the shit you say were true, which it isn't, you have to ask yourself why you take such pleasure in disparaging the US. It's human nature to lash out at the top dog, but you take personal joy in American problems, real or imagined (mostly imagined).
@Terralventhe Google "Academic Ranking of World Universities".
In every single field of academia, American institutions rank as the best in the world. This would not be the case if what you said were true, and that the US is supposedly letting religion prevent scientific advancement. Almost every single notable scientific and technological breakthrough happens in the US.
@Terralventhe "Hahaha, aww, how cute! Sorry, but inferior to the US? I live in Iceland. The country that's been top three in the quality of life ranks for decades now"
It's funny how every single thing you've said is wrong. The top country on the HDI is Norway. Then Australia, the US and the Netherlands etc..
The US is ranked 3rd at .910 score, Iceland is ranked 14th with a score of .898
1% of the adult Americans are in a cage !!! No society in History has had this many imprisoned more of it's citizens.. Home of the Free... Do we want to see Slavery again in this country? We may have to rethink that..
I, personally, do not believe in the three strikes law, But you can't argue the simplicity and effectiveness of it. The way Stephen Fry makes it sound is that if you steal a few things, on three separate occasions, you go to prison for life. That's not true. He uses Leandro Andrade as an example. What they don't tell you is that he has been in and out of prison since 1982, committing many more than three crimes.
Then you get americans going on about land of the free fuck yeah and all the bollocks about "your just jealous of us you wish you were american" no m8 we really really don't.
interesting stuff. you're fine in the US so long as you got money and aren't a citizen. it's hardly land of the free. yeah you're free to own a gun but don't even think about going to Cuba for a holiday
For profit prisons ladies and gentlemen. Believe it or not, there is a lot of money in the US prison system and the longer people stay, and the more you lock up, the larger the profit margin. Just today the US's largest for profit prison company Corrections Corporation of America offered to buy 48 different state prisons. A useless fact perhaps, but it seems relevant, and is a fact none the less.
People join the military to feed their family; people go to jail for silly crimes, but it is all really for the forced labor; the government sends them to war for the oil.
@Bellerophon17 I know but I think it's a valid point to make when individuals live in a bubble, uncaring of injustices happening all around them in plain sight. Can you think of a better analogy that translates as quickly? there is certainly a long line of tyrannies that were embraced willingly by citizens, but most people don't know enough history to immediately pick up on the similarities of other societies that ignored warning signs similar to our today. I didn't mind your comment.
The scarry thing is, is that there are so many laws, rules and regulations in the US that you could be committing a "crime" and not even know it. In 1790 there were about 20 federal laws that you could break. Now, in 2012, there are over 4,500 not including state and local. Every year the congress passed about 80,000 pages of laws and legislation. And they exempt themselves from many of them. "Land of the free"?
jesus. they have so many ppl in prison yet still have the highest crime rate in the world...oh and its the most religious country in the western world. says it all really
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1) The US has more minorities than any developed country. Minorities commit disproportionate amount of crime. The incarceration for whites in the US is lower than almost any white country.
2) Illegal immigrants make up 1/4th of the prison population in the US.
3) The US has a professional and well-funded police force and justice system, unlike developing countries. This means the US has the means to prosecute and incarcerate people to a higher degree.
America is a nation of minorities; the first illegal immigrants here and proof that such immigrants can make a diffrence. E pluribus unum, novus ordo seclorum.
@MercenarySlick Britain has a professional and well-funded police force yet only has 1/5 of the incarceration rate. As for the nonsense about the US rate for whites, that rate 487/100,000. The white rate alone would be the 7th highest incarceration rate in the world, tied with Cuba. Normally it's developing countries that have higher rates due to authoritative regimes and fewer programs to keep society functioning. High incarceraation rates do not equal better societies.
@gturner38 The UK also only has a minority rate of 15%. The US minority rate is 35%.
Blacks in both countries commit crimes at higher rates than whites.The UK just has way less of them to affect national statistics. In the US blacks are 7 times more likely to commit murder and 10 times more likely to commit felony theft than whites are.
60% of black males in the US are either in prison or have been. Also fully 1/3rd of inmates in prisons in the US are non-Americans.
@MercenarySlick Even if I give you the stat that 1/3 of people in US jails are not American, that still leaves 500 Americans per 100,000 in prison. Even if I somehow apply that number to the white prison population, that would still leave the US white incarceration rate at twice the total British rate. There are fewer people in prison in India and China combined than in the US despite having 8 times the population. That's not all down to race.
The third statement seems rather fatuous and naive. One could easily claim that the enforcement of petty laws (3 strikes) along with a zealous, brutal, and racist judicial system is the reason for the staggering gaol population. So, rather than the free, dynamic nation that this claim infers, the U.S. seems more in keeping with a draconian state.
The fact that you blame minorities, and specify that "whites" aren't the problem, is a clear indication of your bigotry. Repulsive.
@dmal0205 You know absolutely nothing about the US. The vast majority of crime is committed by blacks and latinos, despite the fact that whites are the majority. It's funny how morons like you who are deviled by political correctness have to call anyone a bigot because they dare to tell the truth. Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit murder.
If you were to factor out minorities, the US would have just about the lowest crime rate and prison population among developed nations.
@stealyphil1925 I don't hate black people. I treat each individual I meet based on their own behavior. But it is a FACT that black culture encourages crime and that because of this blacks in the US commit the majority of crime in the US, including murder.
Seriously, blacks are 7 times more likely to murder someone than whites are. You can tell what part of the country has the least murder by simply looking for the place with the least amount of black people.
That doesn't prove anything. For example, why do black people get arrested more? Because they get searched more by the police. There are plenty of people walking around with drugs on them, but if one group is disproportionately stop-searched then they will get caught more often. Black are stopped more often. Also crime is overwhelmingly committed by poor people, and a greater percentage of non-white people live in poverty. Less poverty, less crime is the real truth
@dmal0205 You're Australian. Imagine what would happen to your country if Aboriginals made up say... 40% of your population instead of 2%. Your crime would skyrocket without there being any difference in your justice system. If your prison system could accommodate it and had a sufficient budget, your rate of imprisonment would also skyrocket.
@dmal0205 Did you know that Somalia has a lower rate of imprisonment than the US? Does this mean their population is more civil or their justice system more lenient?
No. It means they lack a robust justice system. They don't have the competence or the money to enforce laws and imprison people.
Again, the rate of imprisonment in the US is high because of minorities and the fact that unlike other countries, the US has a competent and well-funded justice system.
Your attempts to rationalise your bigotry are facile and flaccid. I noted that you pointed out the minorities in Australia, however you failed to mention that Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders are indigenous, not illegal immigrants. I can only interpret you see a person of colour and assume like equals like. Your theory on the sudden inflation of our indigenous population to a number as high as 40% is farcical, and naive. Let me respond further.
To simply engage in the listless disputations of an obvious bigot can be frustrating. I find it fascinating.
For our proportion of indigenous to rise to 40%, 20 times our current number, one can only assume this would be reflected in the upper echelons of power, judicial being one. Using the fallacy of your logic, there would be 20 times more indigenous in positions of judicial power, which would drastically render your hypothesis to be pure drivel, which is rather apt.
Australia is made up of nearly 20% immigrant population. Our crime rates are 115 per 100,000. The U.S. has nearly 13% immigration, but with 705 criminals per 100,000. The discrepancy? From what I can gather, you would put it down to the massive hordes that come from Mexico, and the resident minorities, particularly the African-Americans. Oh, and the robust nature of your judicial system.
Every time a minority is imprisoned, the more robust it becomes. Outstanding effort.
@dmal0205 You idiot. The majority of immigrants in Australia are WHITE Europeans. Australia is 90% white. Yet the few minorities you do have experience a disparity equal or greater to what minorities in the US face. There is not a single group of people in the US that are as poor or as likely to be imprisoned as Asian immigrants in Australia or your aboriginals.
@MercenarySlick "Almost 6 million migrants, born in over 200 countries, live in Australia. 27% of Australia's resident population were born overseas, as at June 2010."
The proportion of migrants and indigenous in gaol is higher than white people in Australia. Yes, it's true. This is no doubt due to socio-economic background and racism. It is disgraceful and alarming. It disgusts me.
You, however, must be very jealous of how robust our judicial system is, right? You embody hypocrisy.
@dmal0205 Australia is 90% white, the majority of immigrants to Australia are from Europe. You do not have even remotely the same issue with immigration. You don't border any country. We border a third world country (Mexico) that is exporting its crime and poverty to the US via massive illegal immigration. Mexico is a narco state and their drug war is spilling into our country. It would be strange if the US DIDN'T have a large prison population.
@dmal0205 Your attempts to sound intelligent only make you sound extremely uneducated and desperate to validate yourself. You have no idea whatsoever, and you're a hypocrite, considering the most notable minority in your country has it worse than ANY demographic in the US. You think that just because you can brush them under the rug that this means your country is more equal or more civil, when really you just benefit from being almost entirely white.
I never said anything about the plight of Australia's indigenous peoples. They have been, and still are, suffering from numerous failures by our previous and current governments to survive. The history of their suffering is extensive, and it upsets me. This is where we differ. I'm not a bigot. I don't deny how our indigenous have been treated. So, I'm not a hypocrite. You, however, are a bigot. Your opinion of my intelligence, therefore, is moot. Bigotry = ignorance.
I voted for the 3 strikes law after Polly Klass was murdered, and I still support it. if you have 2 strikes already and you are dumb enough to commit another crime, then you really are too stupid to be on the street.
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I love these ugly english fucks who come to america and talk shit about our culture, and end up living here and make a living off that BTW. can you imagine jim gaffigan and dave chappelle moving to the shit hole known as UK and pointing out all the imperfections and making a living off that. its fucking retarded
@IsaacDeanMusic you're an inbred. deal with it. why are british people so fucking hideous? because genetic mixing makes people smarter and healthier(America). Thus when you never leave that shit hole of a country (United Kingdom), fucking your siblings will show the negative effects of genetic mutations.
@sasuke247 Actually, it's 26 states have adopted the three strikes law. So less than half DON'T follow it. Those that do are the ones with the highest crime rates, South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisiana, Nevada, Calfornia, Texas, ect.
There's no arguin' that there's a lot of strange shit going on in the good ole' US and A. Nowadays i can read more strange stuff about the americans than about the japanese, and gettin' my news alot from the internet this has to count for something.
As an American who is a great fan of Steven Fry, this disappoints me a bit. It's quite pompous. People don't go to jail for life for stealing video tapes, and more importantly, that whole reinvented the slave trade bit is pure pompous British BS. You're not required to work, they are not work camps, but if you do you can earn money for when you get out or work off some time. It's an option. Please, I've got my share of complaints about this country, but I just had to say something.
@myzteron It checks out nytimes.com/2004/05/12/national/12prison.html. I stand corrected but I retain my stance regarding the comparison to prison camps which I feel to be a gross mischaracterization. I think most who've served in real prison camps, (Gulag, Nazi Camps, North Korean camps) would likely take offense to the comparison. Additionally, the idea that this is an economic cornerstone of our country is bogus considering the ridiculous cost of having such a high prison population.
@IsaacDeanMusic Well be that as it may, I stand by my point that I thought it unfair and insensitive to compare the American prison system to a work camp society and inssinuate that optional work in our prison system is akin to slave labor being a cornerstone to American manufacturing. Do we over imprison, yes, but this is not a human rights violation on a massive scale. And yeah, I thought it a little arrogant for the Britts to claim as much moral high ground as they did.
@tarrizzzzzzzzz No, prison is not a violation of a human right. The three strikes rule only applies if the first two crimes are very serious, it is ridiculous, but the degrees to which we imprison people are subjective country to country. One of the main reasons for the high prison population is exceptionally stringent drug penalties. But prison on its own is not a human rights violation. We have laws, not all good, and we have prisons which are regulated. The UK also has prisoners dickhead.
Is it optional work? If the only choice is a tiny 5 square meter windowless box undergoing permanent sensory and social deprivation, that doesn't sound optional.
@HaroldHoltCantSwim What's prison in Britain, a Grand piano and a minibar overlooking London? Furthermore the work they do is actually part of a program(som of it) to develope a skill that can be used once they get out of jail, like carpentry. You can also get a degree from jail. I mean, jail is jail, but it ain't aushwits.
@MickyG4444 He likely isn't thinking 'US/THEM' nationalistically. America is really an exception here. I get the impression when I talk to Americans they are thinking
"I am American"
"I am American"
"I am American"
Literally obsessing about nationhood. I guess that's the ColdWar for you, Russians are the same. Half of youtube is corny Russian or America sideshow videos showing flags and military equipment to windows movie maker default text on blue backgrnd.
@CmdrTobs I understand why you feel that, but I really don't defend the US at all costs. I could talk about the criminal behavior of my government on every continent, from South America, to Africa, to Asia, etc, and with much more knowledge and detail than you. I thought that the labor camp claim was an inaccurate characterization and I think I made my case very reasonably. You want to chalk it up to nationalism to marginalize my argument and inflate your euro ego, be my guest.
@CmdrTobs I must be as stupid as you think cus I reread it and it still sounds like you think I'm a dumb nationalist. Your probly right, I'm drunk as fuck listening to Townes Van Zandt. Shit I wish I could play this fucking guitar better.
I love how the high number of black people in jail is a "social" problem not a black problem. If it is, in fact, as Jimmy Carr says, "slavery by the back door", then it is blacks selling themselves into slavery--just like they did the first time. When I hear people say things like this I know that they have never lived in a black neighborhood, gone to a black school, etc. I thought racism was terrible and ignorant too until I spent years in various inner-cities.
I've lived in America my whole life, and you almost have to climb mountains trying to get information like this. It angers me that I have to go to British television to find these statistics
@LordAroyeum Check out Ron Paul. I heard him saying a stat something like this "Blacks only make uo 14% of the drug users yet are 36% of the arrests and 63% of those that end up in prison are blacks".
Just found the vid actually :) watch?v=i3EADdr-5AY
@LordAroyeum Try watching Frontline or Bill Moyers Journal sometime. Good, in-depth stories on things exactly like this - in fact virtually every statistic mentioned here I'd already learned from a U.S. produced show (naturally, mostly on PBS, which GOP lawmakers have been trying to kill for 20 years).
@LordAroyeum thats cause your media is owned by the same people who make money from this they dont want you to know and pay politicians of and censor tv to make sure your not informed of these things the corruption in america is one of the worst in the world and the majority of americans arent even aware of that because there media has actually brainwashed them into believing everything they say.
@LordAroyeum I hate people like you, Americans who say stupid shit about America. I went to Google and found every fucking statistic on the show... Dumb fuck...
@MercenarySlick I have absolutely no idea WHO voted on my comment. I'd think it was people who feel the same way I do. And rather than insult me for my ignorance, you might show me WHERE in the media it has been reported. It would be a lot more helpful to me, and reflect a lot less badly on you
@LordAroyeum Google it. Seriously. In your quest to get easy internet kudos from anti-Americans who thrive on shit like you said, you didn't wait to see if what you said has any legitimacy to it.
Every single major US news outlet has reported this.
And seriously, the US has several factors that lead to his imprisonment rates.
1) Massive illegal immigration. 1/3rd of inmates in the US are illegals.
gotta love Jimmy Carr
99NuttY 16 hours ago
So much for land of the free..
Jessica616ify 1 day ago
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less than 1% of american prison population are atheists, so much for atheists being immoral
Bicthslave 2 days ago
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Bicthslave 2 days ago
Wow, astoning statistics alright. I'd like to find out more about them though.
ismaithliombainne 2 days ago
Enjoyed reading the delusional american comments. Visiting america you would think that they didn't have prisons since crime is so high, everyone carries guns and gangster culture is a national institution. Horrid place.
asdasdasdfdfd333 6 days ago
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chemicallingo 4 days ago
@asdasdasdfdfd333 I disagree with the horrid place part. Sure, America has a lot of bad places, but it is HUGE. Compared to the UK, (I'm not saying the UK is bad) it is huge. So in theory, the US would have a lot more crime. Sure, the younger generation is fucked up. But not all of the US is bad. I have guns, but do I go around threatening to kill people? No, I just use it for recreation and hunting. I don't understand why people always bash the US. Give us a chance, not all of us are bad.
vnslykrx 3 days ago
@vnslykrx When it comes to crime it isn't that there is simply more crime, it's obvious that the more populous the area the higher the crime rate will be. It's that there's more crime per capita, and a higher percentage of citizens in prison.
Snarfoidosis 2 days ago
@Snarfoidosis Per every 100,000 people, there are 183,419 drug crimes in the UK, where in the US, it's 560.1 per 100,000. New York has a population of over 8,000,000 people, and London has 7,000,000. London's crime rate is 7 times the rate of New York's. The reason there are more people in prison per capita is because we prosecute and actually do put them in jail, not just set them free all the time.
vnslykrx 1 day ago
@vnslykrx im pretty sure there's less murders and stuff though. it seems like different places have different sorts of crimes.
and we dont set them free all the time, we just dont arrest people for stealing biscuits.
e7l13 16 hours ago
@e7l13 Yes, there are less murders, but it is also much harder to get a firearm or other deadly weapon in the UK. We don't arrest people for just stealing biscuits either, but we put many more people in prison than you do for nontrivial matters. I have heard many stories of drug user being just let go, where as in the US, you won't get let go. I don't think the UK is bad at all, I just hate when people say US SUCKS, blah blah blah. Sometimes people are just ignorant. I'm certainly not saying US
vnslykrx 11 hours ago
@e7l13 is better, but the UK isn't all that great either. We all have our downfalls and I know I'm not changing peoples mind, but I'd rather not be bashed because I was born in the US. My favorite TV shows are British, I love them. Hell, Bill Bailey is hilarious! People just think we're all dimwits when some of us are actually pretty damn intelligent.
vnslykrx 11 hours ago
@vnslykrx i never said the uk was great and i'm certainly not insulting america, im sorry if it sounded like i was. i just mean that it seems like a lot of places seem to have more of certain crimes. we have our fair share of idiots as well. =)
im sorry if i offended you.
besides i cant critisise a country that makes the batman movies.
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Terralventhe 1 week ago
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Terralventhe 1 week ago
You laughing lousy limey's are next you know.
Zampan0 1 week ago
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MrMLD72MLD 1 week ago
god its soooooo fucking nuts, i get better information from a british comedy show then the media, its alarming that this country NEVER talks about that, ever.
dom44444 1 week ago
America is doomed.
TugsN 1 week ago
What a Americans known for
Being idiots... Fat......
ColdShaunUK 1 week ago
@ColdShaunUK Funny, you're British. You're less educated and far dumber than Americans and your obesity rate is the highest in Europe, only 2% lower than that of the US, and in 10 years you'll be fatter than Americans.
What Pommie faggots like you are known for, hypocritically bashing Americans for faults that you demonstrate in greater degrees so that you can cope with being America's lapdog.
Enjoy being a 3rd rate country that obeys the US like a bitch.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick
Are they your dreams or actually facts?
America will always be the dumbest and fattest country to date.
ColdShaunUK 1 week ago
@ColdShaunUK That's just what idiots like you from inferior countries tell yourselves to cope with your jealousy and try to deal with being dependent on the US in every way.
Be more respectful of your betters, you disgusting limey.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick Sorry, but according to statistics, the U.S. remains at least ten to twenty ranks ahead of Britain in regards to a lack of education, illiteracy and countless other problems with their country. Hell, here's another fun fact about the U.S.; you have the second-highest rates of children under 12 being homeless in non-third world countries. The fact of the matter is, really, that statistically speaking the U.S. remains the worst country in the world ever to live in.
Terralventhe 1 week ago
@Terralventhe Every single thing you just said is a lie. Non-Americans like you have to believe in pure fantasy just to cope with being inferior to Americans in every way.
The US is ranked 3rd in the Human Development Index and 7th in the Quality of Life Index (remarkable for a large country) and you said the US is statistically the worst place to live? You're a flat out RETARD. Someone has to be full-blown retarded to actually believe the false shit about the US that you believe.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick Hahaha, aww, how cute! Sorry, but inferior to the US? I live in Iceland. The country that's been top three in the quality of life ranks for decades now. Our quality of life far outdoes the US on such a basic ground as a 100% literacy rate, compared to the US's poor rating. Not to mention the fact that how can it be ranked 3rd in Human Development when it's responsible for 3/4ths of the entire PLANET'S pollution and allows religion to dictate scientific advances?
Terralventhe 1 week ago
@Terralventhe You live in a dull country with no minorities, and you don't border any other countries. Your quality of life is only higher because of this fact.
The US has 99% literacy, that's not a poor rating.
And religion dictates scientific advances in the US? So you're proving you're even more retarded. The US leads the entire world in science. The US is ranked #1 on the technology index and American universities DOMINATE. Google academic ranking world universities
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick I live in a country rich economically compared to your country, with a better democracy, better healthcare, more peaceful (dude, the US ranks lower than EGYPT, despite Egypt having been a warzone recently) and generally just better. As for leading the world in science? Sorry, wrong again, your country abandoned mapping the human genome and genetic research for healthcare on account of religious pressure. You know who DOES lead the world on the gene research front?
Terralventhe 1 week ago
@Terralventhe You live in a small, dull country that has never accomplished anything. True the US has problems, but you exaggerate them, lie to facilitate your inferiority complex, and you generally have no idea about the US other than negative propaganda.
And everything you're saying is wrong. The US did NOT abandon the Human Genome Project for religious reasons. Where are you getting your information? Sounds like figments of your diseased imagination.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick Or it sounds like what your own president stated at a conference a few years ago, stating that the research 'went against God'. Sounds to me, rather, that you will dismiss any kind of factual evidence against you and instead insist that everyone is jealous of how super-cool your country is, even as the rest of us watch you fall apart at the seams cradling your self-denial. I deeply apologize for ever having thought to treat you like a rational individual, at least
Terralventhe 6 days ago
@Terralventhe You have no idea what you're talking about. The US never halted work on the human genome project. In fact, much of the funding came from the US government.
The problem with you is that almost every thing you say is wrong and/or hypocritical. It shows that you're not using logic, you're motivated by something else.
And you're saying the US is falling apart. This is utter hypocrisy considering the US is doing much better than Europe and Iceland specifically.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick Like I said before, you are clearly not a rational individual, seeing as you're dismissing everything anyone has to say as some kind of deep-seated conspiracy fueled by some fictional jealousy of your nation.
The fact of the matter is that the whole world is doing a lot better than the US. Hell, even Russia is better off than you are, as you guys beat them in prison statistics.
But again, I'm wasting my breath, since you'd rather ignore any non pro-US facts.
Terralventhe 6 days ago
@Terralventhe If we were to assume hypothetically that everything you're saying is true (it's not), it still doesn't explain why you'd be so obsessed with these perceived faults of the US. I don't spend my life obsessing over problems in other countries. I don't take joy in problems that other countries have.
So even if you were right, you're still a gigantic dick head.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick and yet the U.S. can't seem to keep themselves out of other countries. The United States is really good at finding loopholes that work to their benefit economically.
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@Terralventhe "I live in a country rich economically compared to your country,"
Apparently you forgot about your gigantic banking crash that was way worse than anything the US experienced? How are you richer economically?
US GDP: $15.3 trillion (2011)
Iceland GDP: $12.6 billion (2010)
US GDP per capita: $49,000
Iceland GDP per capita: $37,500
How are you richer economically than the US? The US economy produces about 30% more wealth per person than Iceland. You're completely full of shit.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick Except of course the vast majority of that is in the hands of the top 1% - whereas as in Iceland there is a better share of it. It is probably true to say "for the average citizen, iceland is richer than the USA"
auto98 6 days ago
@auto98 The vast majority isn't in the hands of the 1% (it's about 40%) but yeah there's more income inequality in the US than there is in Iceland. Developed ountries that have low immigration and small, homogenous populations always have income equality. But even though there's a bigger gap between the rich and poor in the US (due to demographics), the average American is still wealthier than average in the world, and wealthier than Icelanders.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick @MercenarySlick Well, since you brought up HDI, I should point out that once incom inequality is brought into account, Iceland does come higher than the US - in fact the US slips down to 23rd - check the wiki page "Inequality-adjusted HDI"
auto98 6 days ago
@auto98 Do you know what they do when they adjust the HDI for equality? They make equality the most weighted aspect, putting it above everything else. It completely skews the statistics.
Say Country A has low quality of life for everyone but everyone has the same quality, it will score higher than Country B in the equality portion even if everyone in Country B has higher quality of life than everyone in Country A, just that there's a gap between the best and worst.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@auto98 Indeed, that is what I meant by the statement. By a comparative headcount, the average Icelandic citizen is wealthier than any US citizen, and thus, by that standard, we are richer economically when compared to the US. Not to mention the fact that, unlike the US, we are perfectly self-sustainable, as opposed to the US which imports a large majority of all of its products.
Terralventhe 6 days ago
@Terralventhe "Not to mention the fact that, unlike the US, we are perfectly self-sustainable"
Wow, you're Icelandic and you have no idea about your own country. Iceland is NOT self-sustainable. You depend heavily on foreign investment, when it dried up you had your financial crisis which made ours look like nothing.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick "Wow, you're Icelandic and you have no idea about your own country."
Coming from someone who dismisses anything that doesn't kiss America's ass as a conspiracy formed by jealous non-Americans, I find this statement amusing since you profess a far greater ignorance of just how deep in the shit your own country is even at this very moment. I'm done here, continue wallowing in delusions of grandeur, you crazy nationalist.
Terralventhe 6 days ago
@Terralventhe I dismiss what you say because all of it is false or hypocritical. In order to bash the US, which is your main goal and probably a hobby of yours, you rely on false claims and you routinely criticize the US for issues that are worse in your own country.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@MercenarySlick You mean the crash that everyone else grossly blew out of proportions, considering that we still rank higher than the US in wealth? Sort of like how the tsunami in Japan was blown out of proportions whilst they were able to get back to normal in a mere 3 months, as opposed to, say, the US which couldn't even clean up the aftermath of Katrina? Go wallow in your delusional fantasies that everyone else is jealous of your country some more, I'll be here in reality.
Terralventhe 6 days ago
@Terralventhe "Sort of like how the tsunami in Japan was blown out of proportions whilst they were able to get back to normal in a mere 3 months, as opposed to, say, the US which couldn't even clean up the aftermath of Katrina?"
The reason Katrina didn't get "back to normal" is because everyone left and didn't come back. No point in throwing money at communities that have 4 people in them.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@Terralventhe And I see how you deleted your comment where you said the US ranks 31st in the quality of life index. The US ranks 7th. Google it moron.
Again, this is very good for a large country with a huge minority population and massive immigration from the third world.
And by the way, Iceland DOES NOT score higher than the US on the HDI you fucking belligerent moron. On the 2011 HDI the US is tied for 3rd and Iceland is in 14th place.
Typical jealous non-American.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick Actually, I didn't delete it, I reposted it outside of this comment tree in the same chat. And I did google it, or did you miss the image I linked before? If you want, I will happily relink you to it here:
nationranking(DOT)files(DOT)wordpress(DOT)com/2011/03/2011-qli2(DOT)png
Or are you perhaps going to go the petulant path of claiming these numbers are fiction? Or perhaps that they mean nothing because all of these countries are 'really inferior anyway'.
Terralventhe 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick Hell, I'll go a step further and link to the full article itself if that's too difficult for you to accept:
nationranking(DOT)wordpress(DOT)com/category/quality-of-life-index/
Terralventhe 1 week ago
@Terralventhe Your links didn't work.
Seriously you're delusional. The US ranks higher than Iceland in the Human Development Index for 2011. The US is tied for 3rd with the Netherlands. Iceland, your country, is ranked 14th.
Even if the shit you say were true, which it isn't, you have to ask yourself why you take such pleasure in disparaging the US. It's human nature to lash out at the top dog, but you take personal joy in American problems, real or imagined (mostly imagined).
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@Terralventhe Google "Academic Ranking of World Universities".
In every single field of academia, American institutions rank as the best in the world. This would not be the case if what you said were true, and that the US is supposedly letting religion prevent scientific advancement. Almost every single notable scientific and technological breakthrough happens in the US.
MercenarySlick 6 days ago
@Terralventhe "Hahaha, aww, how cute! Sorry, but inferior to the US? I live in Iceland. The country that's been top three in the quality of life ranks for decades now"
It's funny how every single thing you've said is wrong. The top country on the HDI is Norway. Then Australia, the US and the Netherlands etc..
The US is ranked 3rd at .910 score, Iceland is ranked 14th with a score of .898
Fail more you inbred.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
1% of the adult Americans are in a cage !!! No society in History has had this many imprisoned more of it's citizens.. Home of the Free... Do we want to see Slavery again in this country? We may have to rethink that..
younwhosarmy 1 week ago
what are Brits known for....
tea, bad teeth.....
Fuscoooo 1 week ago
Jimmy Carr - unbelievably quit witted
J4YM5 1 week ago
I, personally, do not believe in the three strikes law, But you can't argue the simplicity and effectiveness of it. The way Stephen Fry makes it sound is that if you steal a few things, on three separate occasions, you go to prison for life. That's not true. He uses Leandro Andrade as an example. What they don't tell you is that he has been in and out of prison since 1982, committing many more than three crimes.
Kubiklan 1 week ago
@Kubiklan "But you can't argue the simplicity and effectiveness of it" lol, simplicity isn't a virtue in such matters.
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OlgerJan 1 week ago
Then you get americans going on about land of the free fuck yeah and all the bollocks about "your just jealous of us you wish you were american" no m8 we really really don't.
TheT33g 2 weeks ago 2
interesting stuff. you're fine in the US so long as you got money and aren't a citizen. it's hardly land of the free. yeah you're free to own a gun but don't even think about going to Cuba for a holiday
handadalek 2 weeks ago
For profit prisons ladies and gentlemen. Believe it or not, there is a lot of money in the US prison system and the longer people stay, and the more you lock up, the larger the profit margin. Just today the US's largest for profit prison company Corrections Corporation of America offered to buy 48 different state prisons. A useless fact perhaps, but it seems relevant, and is a fact none the less.
AgentOrangeReports 2 weeks ago
You cant get into college at age 17 though. Its really rare, you have to be really smart to skip a grade or be born some at some weird time.
clayton9m 3 weeks ago
@clayton9m I entered college at age 17. It is weird, though, that they'd give that statistic for 17-year-olds instead of 18-year-olds.
audball911 3 weeks ago
xD AHH america is so bad! :D
BlueBlockHeads 3 weeks ago
"G" for "Jail"? What?
LilLouise18 3 weeks ago 2
@LilLouise18 I never heard of it before this show either. Gaol
NicosMind 3 weeks ago 5
@NicosMind Cool, thanks for pointing that out
LilLouise18 3 weeks ago
@LilLouise18 De nada
NicosMind 3 weeks ago
@NicosMind English (UK) Spelling of "Jail" was Gaol for a very long time
Redheadfury 2 weeks ago
People join the military to feed their family; people go to jail for silly crimes, but it is all really for the forced labor; the government sends them to war for the oil.
pooptickler1337 3 weeks ago
wow
TheGreatestAjax 3 weeks ago
i love america. hate me if you want. I live in the coolest city and dont know anyone in prison
cmcgurk1 3 weeks ago
@cmcgurk1 What an oblivious, "Good German" you would have been in the early days of Hitler's regime.
leafwatch 3 weeks ago
@leafwatch i hate to be a smart alec but check this out - QI Godwin's law
Bellerophon17 2 weeks ago
@Bellerophon17 I know but I think it's a valid point to make when individuals live in a bubble, uncaring of injustices happening all around them in plain sight. Can you think of a better analogy that translates as quickly? there is certainly a long line of tyrannies that were embraced willingly by citizens, but most people don't know enough history to immediately pick up on the similarities of other societies that ignored warning signs similar to our today. I didn't mind your comment.
leafwatch 2 weeks ago
@cmcgurk1 how would you know them if they're in jail lolol
UltimateVenom 3 weeks ago
@cmcgurk1 Of course you don't because...they are in prison.
blabby102 3 weeks ago
The scarry thing is, is that there are so many laws, rules and regulations in the US that you could be committing a "crime" and not even know it. In 1790 there were about 20 federal laws that you could break. Now, in 2012, there are over 4,500 not including state and local. Every year the congress passed about 80,000 pages of laws and legislation. And they exempt themselves from many of them. "Land of the free"?
63gstone 4 weeks ago 9
Well, in DK some of the Emblems the Royal family gives away to honorable apparently people, are made by Dk jailbirds to my knowledge?
albert22022000 1 month ago
ya know its hard to play little big planet and play this at the same time.
justintvinhd 1 month ago
jesus. they have so many ppl in prison yet still have the highest crime rate in the world...oh and its the most religious country in the western world. says it all really
rizladizla 1 month ago
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1) The US has more minorities than any developed country. Minorities commit disproportionate amount of crime. The incarceration for whites in the US is lower than almost any white country.
2) Illegal immigrants make up 1/4th of the prison population in the US.
3) The US has a professional and well-funded police force and justice system, unlike developing countries. This means the US has the means to prosecute and incarcerate people to a higher degree.
MercenarySlick 1 month ago
America is a nation of minorities; the first illegal immigrants here and proof that such immigrants can make a diffrence. E pluribus unum, novus ordo seclorum.
pythag123 1 month ago
@MercenarySlick
The jails are just filled with morons. We should practice Eugenics. Seriously.
sciences8 1 month ago
@MercenarySlick Britain has a professional and well-funded police force yet only has 1/5 of the incarceration rate. As for the nonsense about the US rate for whites, that rate 487/100,000. The white rate alone would be the 7th highest incarceration rate in the world, tied with Cuba. Normally it's developing countries that have higher rates due to authoritative regimes and fewer programs to keep society functioning. High incarceraation rates do not equal better societies.
gturner38 4 weeks ago
@gturner38 The UK also only has a minority rate of 15%. The US minority rate is 35%.
Blacks in both countries commit crimes at higher rates than whites.The UK just has way less of them to affect national statistics. In the US blacks are 7 times more likely to commit murder and 10 times more likely to commit felony theft than whites are.
60% of black males in the US are either in prison or have been. Also fully 1/3rd of inmates in prisons in the US are non-Americans.
MercenarySlick 4 weeks ago
@MercenarySlick Even if I give you the stat that 1/3 of people in US jails are not American, that still leaves 500 Americans per 100,000 in prison. Even if I somehow apply that number to the white prison population, that would still leave the US white incarceration rate at twice the total British rate. There are fewer people in prison in India and China combined than in the US despite having 8 times the population. That's not all down to race.
gturner38 3 weeks ago 2
@MercenarySlick
The third statement seems rather fatuous and naive. One could easily claim that the enforcement of petty laws (3 strikes) along with a zealous, brutal, and racist judicial system is the reason for the staggering gaol population. So, rather than the free, dynamic nation that this claim infers, the U.S. seems more in keeping with a draconian state.
The fact that you blame minorities, and specify that "whites" aren't the problem, is a clear indication of your bigotry. Repulsive.
dmal0205 2 weeks ago
@dmal0205 You know absolutely nothing about the US. The vast majority of crime is committed by blacks and latinos, despite the fact that whites are the majority. It's funny how morons like you who are deviled by political correctness have to call anyone a bigot because they dare to tell the truth. Blacks are 7 times more likely to commit murder.
If you were to factor out minorities, the US would have just about the lowest crime rate and prison population among developed nations.
MercenarySlick 2 weeks ago
@MercenarySlick Real subtle like with your nigger hating. XD
stealyphil1925 2 weeks ago
@stealyphil1925 I don't hate black people. I treat each individual I meet based on their own behavior. But it is a FACT that black culture encourages crime and that because of this blacks in the US commit the majority of crime in the US, including murder.
Seriously, blacks are 7 times more likely to murder someone than whites are. You can tell what part of the country has the least murder by simply looking for the place with the least amount of black people.
MercenarySlick 2 weeks ago
@MercenarySlick
That doesn't prove anything. For example, why do black people get arrested more? Because they get searched more by the police. There are plenty of people walking around with drugs on them, but if one group is disproportionately stop-searched then they will get caught more often. Black are stopped more often. Also crime is overwhelmingly committed by poor people, and a greater percentage of non-white people live in poverty. Less poverty, less crime is the real truth
hyu3cn 2 weeks ago
@dmal0205 You're Australian. Imagine what would happen to your country if Aboriginals made up say... 40% of your population instead of 2%. Your crime would skyrocket without there being any difference in your justice system. If your prison system could accommodate it and had a sufficient budget, your rate of imprisonment would also skyrocket.
MercenarySlick 2 weeks ago
@MercenarySlick What utter nonsense. You actually are mad.
CmdrTobs 1 week ago
@CmdrTobs And you're a feckless imbecile.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick "feckless imbecile" - As apposed to those imbeciles that aren't feckless??! hahahahaha
CmdrTobs 1 week ago
@dmal0205 Did you know that Somalia has a lower rate of imprisonment than the US? Does this mean their population is more civil or their justice system more lenient?
No. It means they lack a robust justice system. They don't have the competence or the money to enforce laws and imprison people.
Again, the rate of imprisonment in the US is high because of minorities and the fact that unlike other countries, the US has a competent and well-funded justice system.
MercenarySlick 2 weeks ago
@MercenarySlick
Your attempts to rationalise your bigotry are facile and flaccid. I noted that you pointed out the minorities in Australia, however you failed to mention that Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders are indigenous, not illegal immigrants. I can only interpret you see a person of colour and assume like equals like. Your theory on the sudden inflation of our indigenous population to a number as high as 40% is farcical, and naive. Let me respond further.
dmal0205 1 week ago
To simply engage in the listless disputations of an obvious bigot can be frustrating. I find it fascinating.
For our proportion of indigenous to rise to 40%, 20 times our current number, one can only assume this would be reflected in the upper echelons of power, judicial being one. Using the fallacy of your logic, there would be 20 times more indigenous in positions of judicial power, which would drastically render your hypothesis to be pure drivel, which is rather apt.
dmal0205 1 week ago
Australia is made up of nearly 20% immigrant population. Our crime rates are 115 per 100,000. The U.S. has nearly 13% immigration, but with 705 criminals per 100,000. The discrepancy? From what I can gather, you would put it down to the massive hordes that come from Mexico, and the resident minorities, particularly the African-Americans. Oh, and the robust nature of your judicial system.
Every time a minority is imprisoned, the more robust it becomes. Outstanding effort.
dmal0205 1 week ago
@dmal0205 You idiot. The majority of immigrants in Australia are WHITE Europeans. Australia is 90% white. Yet the few minorities you do have experience a disparity equal or greater to what minorities in the US face. There is not a single group of people in the US that are as poor or as likely to be imprisoned as Asian immigrants in Australia or your aboriginals.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick "Almost 6 million migrants, born in over 200 countries, live in Australia. 27% of Australia's resident population were born overseas, as at June 2010."
The proportion of migrants and indigenous in gaol is higher than white people in Australia. Yes, it's true. This is no doubt due to socio-economic background and racism. It is disgraceful and alarming. It disgusts me.
You, however, must be very jealous of how robust our judicial system is, right? You embody hypocrisy.
dmal0205 1 week ago
@dmal0205 Australia is 90% white, the majority of immigrants to Australia are from Europe. You do not have even remotely the same issue with immigration. You don't border any country. We border a third world country (Mexico) that is exporting its crime and poverty to the US via massive illegal immigration. Mexico is a narco state and their drug war is spilling into our country. It would be strange if the US DIDN'T have a large prison population.
You're an idiot, give up.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@dmal0205 Your attempts to sound intelligent only make you sound extremely uneducated and desperate to validate yourself. You have no idea whatsoever, and you're a hypocrite, considering the most notable minority in your country has it worse than ANY demographic in the US. You think that just because you can brush them under the rug that this means your country is more equal or more civil, when really you just benefit from being almost entirely white.
MercenarySlick 1 week ago
@MercenarySlick
I never said anything about the plight of Australia's indigenous peoples. They have been, and still are, suffering from numerous failures by our previous and current governments to survive. The history of their suffering is extensive, and it upsets me. This is where we differ. I'm not a bigot. I don't deny how our indigenous have been treated. So, I'm not a hypocrite. You, however, are a bigot. Your opinion of my intelligence, therefore, is moot. Bigotry = ignorance.
dmal0205 1 week ago
It;s not goal it;s gaol.
trebange 1 month ago
Gail. British Spelling of 'Jail' (Goal). That statistic on young black people in jail made me cry.
Tiwaking 1 month ago
America land of the free a part from gays,black people and the ethnic minorities
shalidar179 1 month ago 3
I voted for the 3 strikes law after Polly Klass was murdered, and I still support it. if you have 2 strikes already and you are dumb enough to commit another crime, then you really are too stupid to be on the street.
ReddSept 1 month ago
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I love these ugly english fucks who come to america and talk shit about our culture, and end up living here and make a living off that BTW. can you imagine jim gaffigan and dave chappelle moving to the shit hole known as UK and pointing out all the imperfections and making a living off that. its fucking retarded
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11
None of these guys live in a AMerica
Plus, they are stating Prison statistics- not "culture". Unless you consider locking people up as part of your culture.
pmo1983 1 month ago 7
@pmo1983 did you know that if you have buttsex with a women she can still get pregnant if the cum leaks down in to her vaggggggggina
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11 Wow... you must really be a genius when you know something like that...
A+ to the American educational system...
MrKeegi 1 month ago 4
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@JN5B11
"did you know that if you have buttsex with a women she can still get pregnant if the cum leaks down in to her vaggggggggina"
You know that from experience do you?
dudesonman4200 1 month ago
@JN5B11 A: Way to prove all the American stereotypes correct in one sentence. . . doing a real service to your country there.
B: There are plenty of Americans who DO, Rich hall, reginald D hunter, Zoë Wanamaker to name just a couple from the top of my head.
manhunt48 1 month ago
@manhunt48 I'm sorry about the confusion on my last comment what I meant to say was FUCK BRITAIN
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11 Awww. . . Well aren't you the mature stereotypical fuckwit.
manhunt48 1 month ago
@manhunt48 don't you have a daughter to fuck? you inbred heathen
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11 Irony strikes again. . .
manhunt48 1 month ago 6
@manhunt48 i guess it is ironic that your daughter has an extra ear lobe
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11
That is not the correct use of the word ironic.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 month ago
@asdfhuliashduflasihf you used it in the wrong context as well
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11
How so? This is my first comment, and I only quoted it; I haven't properly used it in a sentence yet.
asdfhuliashduflasihf 1 month ago
@JN5B11 You're a disgrace to your nation and you're only fuelling the stereotype that Americans are stupid creatures.
IsaacDeanMusic 1 month ago 2
@IsaacDeanMusic you're an inbred. deal with it. why are british people so fucking hideous? because genetic mixing makes people smarter and healthier(America). Thus when you never leave that shit hole of a country (United Kingdom), fucking your siblings will show the negative effects of genetic mutations.
JN5B11 1 month ago
@JN5B11 how could you possible think this was an american show
RzTriikz 2 weeks ago
less than half of the states in the US follow the three strikes rule...
sasuke247 1 month ago
@sasuke247 Actually, it's 26 states have adopted the three strikes law. So less than half DON'T follow it. Those that do are the ones with the highest crime rates, South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisiana, Nevada, Calfornia, Texas, ect.
F1NGER 1 month ago
@F1NGER I looked around and it said 24. would u like to show me your sources?
sasuke247 1 month ago
@F1NGER Which still makes it 26 to many.
There's no arguin' that there's a lot of strange shit going on in the good ole' US and A. Nowadays i can read more strange stuff about the americans than about the japanese, and gettin' my news alot from the internet this has to count for something.
Aspartem 1 month ago
As an American who is a great fan of Steven Fry, this disappoints me a bit. It's quite pompous. People don't go to jail for life for stealing video tapes, and more importantly, that whole reinvented the slave trade bit is pure pompous British BS. You're not required to work, they are not work camps, but if you do you can earn money for when you get out or work off some time. It's an option. Please, I've got my share of complaints about this country, but I just had to say something.
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444
Those were examples of things people stole on their third strike and thusly got a life sentence.
the show is very heavily researched, watch again get the names and google them.
I remember one guy getting his third strike and a life sentence for stealing a slice of pizza.
myzteron 1 month ago
@myzteron It checks out nytimes.com/2004/05/12/national/12prison.html. I stand corrected but I retain my stance regarding the comparison to prison camps which I feel to be a gross mischaracterization. I think most who've served in real prison camps, (Gulag, Nazi Camps, North Korean camps) would likely take offense to the comparison. Additionally, the idea that this is an economic cornerstone of our country is bogus considering the ridiculous cost of having such a high prison population.
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444 I'm not trying to sound like I'm arguing with you or insulting you but QI will most likely be more credible than all of us will ever be.
IsaacDeanMusic 1 month ago
@IsaacDeanMusic Well be that as it may, I stand by my point that I thought it unfair and insensitive to compare the American prison system to a work camp society and inssinuate that optional work in our prison system is akin to slave labor being a cornerstone to American manufacturing. Do we over imprison, yes, but this is not a human rights violation on a massive scale. And yeah, I thought it a little arrogant for the Britts to claim as much moral high ground as they did.
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444 Steven Fry rules tho
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444 Not really. How is it not a human rights violation on a massive scale? That is exactly what it is.
tarrizzzzzzzzz 1 month ago
@tarrizzzzzzzzz No, prison is not a violation of a human right. The three strikes rule only applies if the first two crimes are very serious, it is ridiculous, but the degrees to which we imprison people are subjective country to country. One of the main reasons for the high prison population is exceptionally stringent drug penalties. But prison on its own is not a human rights violation. We have laws, not all good, and we have prisons which are regulated. The UK also has prisoners dickhead.
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444 I am not from the UK, and yes, prisons are a human rights violation. Any prison, not just in the US.
And the drug laws are especially violating human rights. Drugs don't even hurt anyone but the volountary users.
tarrizzzzzzzzz 1 month ago
@MickyG4444
Is it optional work? If the only choice is a tiny 5 square meter windowless box undergoing permanent sensory and social deprivation, that doesn't sound optional.
HaroldHoltCantSwim 1 month ago
@HaroldHoltCantSwim What's prison in Britain, a Grand piano and a minibar overlooking London? Furthermore the work they do is actually part of a program(som of it) to develope a skill that can be used once they get out of jail, like carpentry. You can also get a degree from jail. I mean, jail is jail, but it ain't aushwits.
MickyG4444 1 month ago
@MickyG4444 He likely isn't thinking 'US/THEM' nationalistically. America is really an exception here. I get the impression when I talk to Americans they are thinking
"I am American"
"I am American"
"I am American"
Literally obsessing about nationhood. I guess that's the ColdWar for you, Russians are the same. Half of youtube is corny Russian or America sideshow videos showing flags and military equipment to windows movie maker default text on blue backgrnd.
CmdrTobs 1 week ago
@CmdrTobs I understand why you feel that, but I really don't defend the US at all costs. I could talk about the criminal behavior of my government on every continent, from South America, to Africa, to Asia, etc, and with much more knowledge and detail than you. I thought that the labor camp claim was an inaccurate characterization and I think I made my case very reasonably. You want to chalk it up to nationalism to marginalize my argument and inflate your euro ego, be my guest.
MickyG4444 1 week ago
@MickyG4444 Breath and reread my post.
CmdrTobs 1 week ago
@CmdrTobs I must be as stupid as you think cus I reread it and it still sounds like you think I'm a dumb nationalist. Your probly right, I'm drunk as fuck listening to Townes Van Zandt. Shit I wish I could play this fucking guitar better.
MickyG4444 1 week ago
@MickyG4444 haha. "I'm drunk as fuck listening to Townes Van Zandt" - enjoy.
CmdrTobs 1 week ago
I love how the high number of black people in jail is a "social" problem not a black problem. If it is, in fact, as Jimmy Carr says, "slavery by the back door", then it is blacks selling themselves into slavery--just like they did the first time. When I hear people say things like this I know that they have never lived in a black neighborhood, gone to a black school, etc. I thought racism was terrible and ignorant too until I spent years in various inner-cities.
rickygervais1776 1 month ago
I've lived in America my whole life, and you almost have to climb mountains trying to get information like this. It angers me that I have to go to British television to find these statistics
LordAroyeum 1 month ago 78
@LordAroyeum Check out Ron Paul. I heard him saying a stat something like this "Blacks only make uo 14% of the drug users yet are 36% of the arrests and 63% of those that end up in prison are blacks".
Just found the vid actually :) watch?v=i3EADdr-5AY
NicosMind 1 month ago 19
@NicosMind thanks a lot!
LordAroyeum 2 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum Try watching Frontline or Bill Moyers Journal sometime. Good, in-depth stories on things exactly like this - in fact virtually every statistic mentioned here I'd already learned from a U.S. produced show (naturally, mostly on PBS, which GOP lawmakers have been trying to kill for 20 years).
franktjacobs 1 month ago
@franktjacobs I will. thanks!
LordAroyeum 2 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum thats cause your media is owned by the same people who make money from this they dont want you to know and pay politicians of and censor tv to make sure your not informed of these things the corruption in america is one of the worst in the world and the majority of americans arent even aware of that because there media has actually brainwashed them into believing everything they say.
5H4K490 1 month ago
@LordAroyeum I hate people like you, Americans who say stupid shit about America. I went to Google and found every fucking statistic on the show... Dumb fuck...
Kanoki989 1 month ago
@Kanoki989 thank you for your unhelpful reply, sir. I sincerely hope there is one person on earth who actually puts up with you
LordAroyeum 2 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum It's funny how you made such a stupid comment to get votes from the non-Americans.
This HAS BEEN reported in US media you twit.
MercenarySlick 1 month ago
@MercenarySlick I have absolutely no idea WHO voted on my comment. I'd think it was people who feel the same way I do. And rather than insult me for my ignorance, you might show me WHERE in the media it has been reported. It would be a lot more helpful to me, and reflect a lot less badly on you
LordAroyeum 2 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum Google it. Seriously. In your quest to get easy internet kudos from anti-Americans who thrive on shit like you said, you didn't wait to see if what you said has any legitimacy to it.
Every single major US news outlet has reported this.
And seriously, the US has several factors that lead to his imprisonment rates.
1) Massive illegal immigration. 1/3rd of inmates in the US are illegals.
2) High minority population.
3) A robust justice system.
MercenarySlick 2 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum It was on the front page of the Washington Post a few years ago.
eirefrance 4 weeks ago
@LordAroyeum There is also that internet thing. I hear it has this kind of information..
RockSteadyStudios 2 weeks ago
@RockSteadyStudios thank you for the sarcasm. It really brightened up my day...
LordAroyeum 2 weeks ago
more black people in jail than in college, ya sounds about correct.
ZillaFreak1 1 month ago
"That's 'slavery by the back door!', ... which is another video I've got.... Am I the only one finding that funny?
Wrt the cold facts: that's depressing..
staalman 1 month ago