“because he (Philip) was the benefactor of Greece, that they all chose him commander-in-chief both on sea and land, an honour previously conferred on no one.”
You are completely wrong. The Macedonians were also Greeks and this kind of unification was typical in the ancient world. How did the Chinese kingdoms, the Huns, the Mongolians, Gauls and others united? BY WAR! Before the Greek kingdom of Macedonia, other Greek states had done the same.......they tried to control the Greek world, Athens with the Athenian league, Sparta with the Peloponesian and so on.....u need to study more about Greek history!
cool video, they didnt win india, Alexander stopt there, the indians where sympli to many, they won the battles but not the country, gathering of tribes where too many for Alexander so he stoped and went southwest. Often armys where about 10 to 35thousand men, in order to control in battle, Alexander and Hannibal where born chess players in battle and always won, no matter how many the enemys where, Alexander got tired and left india, hannibal got tired and left italy and went home on ships.
Actually they did not lose by Indians either, every batttle they gave, they won but simply their task was accomplished so there was no need to go any further, but Alexander's campaign was the end of the Greek Persians war and that campaign has nothing to do with the battle of Thermopylae :) Besides, Hannibal lost, Alexander was undefeated!
heh what engine are they using here for the visual graphics.. rome: total war by any chance :) ? reconise some of the music from it too i think hehe... just outa cureosety
quarter of a million? hundereds of thousands? what are these ridiculous numbers? how can you even build a navy to transport these numbers, supplies etc in the ancient world. Such fabrications! oh and who the hell counted these persians?
These are the numbers provided by the ancient sources, and all these troops were not transported by ships, they marched from Persia to Greece. Where did u see the fabrications? Do u have any ancient sources that say the opposite? I guess not, so u are the one trying to fabricate! Who counted the Persians? Why? Do u think people of that time did not know how to count? Get real!
@charlatanbaby you under estimate the power, and ability our forefathers had. do your really think it took till 1944 to land 200000 men on a shore then back that up with 1 mil more? no. the persians had close to a mil army. feeding that was hardcore raping of the enviroment around them. A small greek force held them off for days. weather its 300 or 1000. they faced 100x that odds. in this day and age we cannot understand those numbers
Wait a second, this war did not keep the Greeks united. The Greeks split up into city-states that were allied to Sparta and city-states that were allied to Athens. Wars broke out called the Pellopenessian Wars. Athens was sacked one time and never really regained its strength. Phillip "unified" them by force. The reason he was so successful was BECAUSE they were so disunified and untrusting of each other. The description is wrong.
Hold on, u are confused. Greek states were divided before this battle but this battle was one of the many that united them against a common foreign enemy. The Pelopenesian war was one of the many Greek civil wars and lasted from 431 B.C. until 404 B.C., not all Greek civil wars were called Peloponesians! It is true that Philip unified all Greek states by force because some of them opposed to this unification!
The battle of Thermopylae was one of the most significant factors that led to the Greek unification in order to avenge the Persian invasion! It was like the turning point that made them think more of their common national descent rather their regional!
@SPARTANsenator7 What you dont understand is after their wars with persia, they broke out into a series of wars with each other. They didnt remain united after Thermopylae and the wars with Persia. They went back to fighting each other. Phillip CONQUERED them.
Here we go again. What don't u get? Did i say that the Greeks after Thermopylae remained united? I said that after that the spark of unification began to become stronger, do u understand that? Greeks had civil wars before Thermopylae, after and even in the more recent years. Pay more attention to what i say!
...and one more thing.....on the Macedonian coallition against Athens and Theba (which were against the Greek unification) there were many other Greek states as well like Focea, Lokroi, Thessalians and others.....like i said get some classes on Greek history. Did The Qin dynasty in China who unified all Chinese kingdoms by war was not Chinese as well? Attila who unified all Huns by war was not a Hun himself? Get some proper education.
says who? u? Then how come the Macedonians were allowed in Greek events like the Olympic Games, the Pythian Games and the Greek assembly known as Amfyktionia? Read what Pausanias, Strabo and Polybius say about the Greek kingdom of Macedonia and stop writing nonsense that give away your ignorance on Greek history!
"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9 (Loeb, H.L. Jones)
"It is your privilege, as one who has been blessed with untrammeled freedom, to consider all Hellas your fatherland, as did the founder of your race". Isocrates, To Philip, 127 (Loeb, G. Norlin)
And it's not Macedon it's Macedonia, Macedon (ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ) is called the resident of that region not the region itself.....that's typical Greek!
You can beat the persians with only 10 spartans...yeah ten - all armed with 6-barreled chain guns, AA-12 shotguns, claymores, grenades, and 80-mm mortar, 3 million rounds of ammo and three-set mc donald's value meal.
@tom280192 it is total war. Rome total war to be specific. One of the best strategy games in my opinion with a huge community. You can buy it pretty cheaply on Steam.
You know, I keep hearing about Spartans and Greeks fighting for FREEDOM. Perhaps there freedom, but you know that they had a lot of slaves right? Somme of those asisted in the battle (I think it was 600 - 700) - they were all put to death by there masters. After all, they tasted battle and might use that knowlage in somme kinde of rebelion.
Of course they fought for their freedom, isn't what everyone else does? Everyone fights for their own freedom. And yes the had slaves cause that was a normal thing in antiquity. You make one of the biggest mistakes, you judge the past with today's standards and you reach the wrong conclusions. And no, the slaves were not put to death by their masters as u said :)
No, the Thebans were at Thermopylae, 400 according to both Herodotus and Diodorus. Herodotus specifically mentions them during the last day and accuses them of surrendering basically immediately once the Persians began attacking. According to Herodotus, the Thebans claimed Leonidas kept them with the Greek army by force and they were friendly to the Persian cause, later historians have claimed this was propaganda invented after Thebes joined Xerxes after Thermopylae.
Pay attention that i am talking about the final battle, so please tell me in which part exactly does Herodotus say that the Thebans fought with the 300 Spartans and the 700 Thespians. I am just curious! and please don't tell me about wikipedia, i mean the actual work! Thanks!
@SPARTANsenator7 Like I said - Herodotus claims that the Thebans fought for part of the last battle, then surrendered and claimed they were on the Persians' side (book 7, para. 233). He claimed that the Thebans were kept there because Leonidas was unsure of their true loyalties and wanted them kept close. Some modern historians, like JF Laenzby, cite Plutarch in saying this didn't make sense and the Thebans (at the battle, not the Theban oligarchs) were probably loyal.
Dude i was clear, i asked for the citations on Herodotus' work, the actual source and u tell me (book 7, para 233)..............can u give me the proper citation?
The Histories is split up into books, the reference to the Thebans being there on the last day is with the rest of the Battle of Thermopylae in book 7, and the specific reference is in paragraph/section 233 (Herodotus theorizes about why Leonidas kept them in section 205).
You can read it at Gutenberg (gutenberg(dot)org), search for The Histories (it's also on google books but easier to find there)
Uh yeah...all I had said was that there were Thebans too but nobody was really sure what they did (Herodotus says they gave up, Plutarch/modern historians suggest they fought on). You were the one who said "700 Thespians stayed with the 300 Spartans but there were no Thebans that stayed!"
All I had said is that there was debate over what the Thebans were doing there on the last day (Herodotus says they gave up right away, others say they actually fought), you're the one who's spent about two weeks dancing around picking a fight over nothing.
Don't give me an aattitude, i was clear from point one that i am speaking about the battle, it is you who kept saying that Thebans were also there...and i ask again...were they at the BATTLE? And the answer is no!
αυτο που δε θα καταλαβετε ποτε δυτικοπιθηκοι ειναι πως δεν μετραει η στρατηγικη τοσο οσο η πατριδα!! ασπιδα ειναι το σωμα μου και ψυχη μου το χωμα που πατω!! τοσο απλα και ξεκαθαρα προβατακια αμερικανακια!!
Eery time i hear about the spartans i'ts differant in one the spartans won in another there were ONLY spartan, no greek soldier and then theres this where the spartans lost.
What's the different thing that you hear? There were 300 Spartans in Thermopylae along with another 7000 other Greeks against more than 300.000 Persians. After 2 days of battle and since a traitor infrormed the Persians bout a secret passage, king Leonidas ordered the rest of the Greeks to retreat and he stayed to fight till death with his 300 Spartans and 700 Thespians.
in which one? Maybe u got confused, the Spartans lost the battle but won the war and right after that battle, the Persians lost all battles, the Spartans took their revenge in the battle of Platea!
Not all the Greeks had left by the last day - the Thespians stayed voluntarily (which is why there is a monument to them), the Thebans were forced to stay according to some sources, volunteered to stay according to others.
Yes, Thebans were definitely there too (a few hundred of them). They largely surrendered right away, which is why a lot of sources claim they were there as hostages because Leonidas (correctly) distrusted Theban loyalty to the Greek cause. Modern sources suggest they might have been Theban democrats who volunteered to stay but I'm not sure how that makes sense with their surrender.
In the last battle there were no Thebans for sure, it is said that Thebans tried to join the Persians out of fear when they invaded Greece and that's why Alexander the Great destroyed Theba after the battle of Chaeronea, because the rest of the Greeks suggested that they should pay for their lack of commitment to the Greek struggle.
We ppl from Balkan where idiots back then Greeks spill their blood to stop Persians entering the Europe , Serbia stop Turks 1389 all man die in battle to save christianity , to stop Turks from advancing to Europe ,etc... . And today this Europe is telling us that we cannot enter EU and destroy are economy so they can buy as all and virtualy enslave Western Europe and USA u are in depth to Greek and Serbia . You will pay it for that one day , I will smile when EU colaps .
It was not difficult to keep count. If i am not mistaken, the Spartans before every battle, they each deposited an item, after the battle, they claimed it back......the unclaimed items equaled the number of the dead!
@cchiy05101663 the spartans were highly trained soldiers which were grown as soldiers from a very young age. They were superior in skill during the battle of thermopylae
Dude.... I nor noticed... The narrator in the blue shirt with the watch is Lt. Ronald Spears from Band of Brothers! He was so badass in that HBO series! Thumbs up for Band of Brothers!
when the spartans died, xerxes ordered his men to cut off king leonidas's head, his last living men were in outrage and fight till their dying breath, and one thing about the movie, in reality, the spartans were heavily armored with heavy armors and shields.
Much Respect to those Courageous 300 Spartan Warriors, let them NEVER be forgotten for their Great Sacrifice they made that day to forever keep their Freedom, let their legacy live on for generations to come !!! Truly Inspiring !! Awoo !!!
@SPARTANsenator7 Yes but they were there for the rest of the battle's, is that so hard for people to understand that they returned home to defend there homes and families, meanwhile the spartans dies... also the spartans were not at the battle of marathon because of a holiday and they were very superstitious,meanwhile athens was wiping out the persians off of the shores of greece....
In the battle of Thermopylae the Athenians fought mostly at the naval battles in Artemisium, as for Marathon indeed they fought alone. No one tries to underestimate their huge impact in the war against Persians!
one thing it was 7000 greek hoplite soldiers including 300 spartin soldiers and 1 spartin king so historiens need help with math good job with the battle throw
@SlyDessertFox
...and for last..
“because he (Philip) was the benefactor of Greece, that they all chose him commander-in-chief both on sea and land, an honour previously conferred on no one.”
(Polybius, Book IX, 33, 7)
like i said, get some classes on Greek history!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago 2
@SlyDessertFox
You are completely wrong. The Macedonians were also Greeks and this kind of unification was typical in the ancient world. How did the Chinese kingdoms, the Huns, the Mongolians, Gauls and others united? BY WAR! Before the Greek kingdom of Macedonia, other Greek states had done the same.......they tried to control the Greek world, Athens with the Athenian league, Sparta with the Peloponesian and so on.....u need to study more about Greek history!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago 2
THIS IS .....SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
jimmy1107jams 6 days ago
"Go and tell the Spartans, That here, obedient to their laws, we lie."
pheenix42 6 days ago
Rome Total war
Desmonter10 1 week ago
Rome total war YEAH!
teo490 1 week ago
OMG is this rome total war?
mewdude98 1 week ago
cool video, they didnt win india, Alexander stopt there, the indians where sympli to many, they won the battles but not the country, gathering of tribes where too many for Alexander so he stoped and went southwest. Often armys where about 10 to 35thousand men, in order to control in battle, Alexander and Hannibal where born chess players in battle and always won, no matter how many the enemys where, Alexander got tired and left india, hannibal got tired and left italy and went home on ships.
insanodirt 1 week ago
@insanodirt
Actually they did not lose by Indians either, every batttle they gave, they won but simply their task was accomplished so there was no need to go any further, but Alexander's campaign was the end of the Greek Persians war and that campaign has nothing to do with the battle of Thermopylae :) Besides, Hannibal lost, Alexander was undefeated!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago
FOR SPARTA!!!!
Spartan0057 1 week ago
A Spartan King was once approached by a member of a Persian king's army.
"You cannot win! If we destroy your army here, Persia will triumph!"
"If." was all the Spartan said.
Spartans - Like a boss.
RyanBrooksby 1 week ago
@RyanBrooksby
very nice!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
If I had a flux capacitor I'd go back in time and kick Ephialtes right in the nuts.
chrisfromoh 1 week ago
@chrisfromoh
i bet many others wanna do that too :)
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
hahaha lol to the rome total war animation
7382932 1 week ago
Why did you disable rating? ,this is interesting !
trickykid73 1 week ago
@trickykid73
to avoid some people from Vardarska who have nothing to say and just attack on Greek videos!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
@grimreaper1171 Yeah but they're campers too.
leadbasedpain1 1 week ago
Actually the phalanx was MUCH MUCH larger then that...but that was in Rome
hawkeymaniac92 1 week ago
@hawkeymaniac92
Rome adopted the Greek phalanx as a battle formation but made some changes!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
@SPARTANsenator7 Ah..the Greek Phalanx was 6000m deep, and about 2500m wide. My bad, I switched the two around. But this is a cool video.
hawkeymaniac92 1 week ago
@hawkeymaniac92
Thanks buddy!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
Marcel, that is fucking racist!!!
mavmanish 1 week ago
hehe rome total war
vandentenebren 1 week ago
sSpartans the best figther from everyone
greekhooligan100 1 week ago
is this rome total war?
attackmike 1 week ago
Rome Total War? Best Game EVer
jhonrox 1 week ago
heh what engine are they using here for the visual graphics.. rome: total war by any chance :) ? reconise some of the music from it too i think hehe... just outa cureosety
benzzuk1 2 weeks ago
quarter of a million? hundereds of thousands? what are these ridiculous numbers? how can you even build a navy to transport these numbers, supplies etc in the ancient world. Such fabrications! oh and who the hell counted these persians?
charlatanbaby 2 weeks ago
@charlatanbaby
These are the numbers provided by the ancient sources, and all these troops were not transported by ships, they marched from Persia to Greece. Where did u see the fabrications? Do u have any ancient sources that say the opposite? I guess not, so u are the one trying to fabricate! Who counted the Persians? Why? Do u think people of that time did not know how to count? Get real!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago 19
@SPARTANsenator7 χεχε εγώ ένα θα πω...δες το όνομα το λογαριασμού του....όνομα και πράγμα....
TheFaiax 1 week ago
@TheFaiax
swstos!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago
@charlatanbaby you under estimate the power, and ability our forefathers had. do your really think it took till 1944 to land 200000 men on a shore then back that up with 1 mil more? no. the persians had close to a mil army. feeding that was hardcore raping of the enviroment around them. A small greek force held them off for days. weather its 300 or 1000. they faced 100x that odds. in this day and age we cannot understand those numbers
0Zolrender0 1 week ago
@charlatanbaby aliens xD
xviper13x 1 week ago
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marcel99016 2 weeks ago
@marcel99016 wtf
Roxas95oath 2 weeks ago
@marcel99016 there arent any muslims at that time
Roxas95oath 2 weeks ago
@marcel99016 those muslims defeated all your crusades so...whats your point?
attackmike 1 week ago
i like how the narrator said leeon idiz
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3ofusalone 2 weeks ago
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bacona988 2 weeks ago
LOL the animation and the soundtrack are from ROME:TOTAL WAR
Robohobofication 2 weeks ago
Wait a second, this war did not keep the Greeks united. The Greeks split up into city-states that were allied to Sparta and city-states that were allied to Athens. Wars broke out called the Pellopenessian Wars. Athens was sacked one time and never really regained its strength. Phillip "unified" them by force. The reason he was so successful was BECAUSE they were so disunified and untrusting of each other. The description is wrong.
SlyDessertFox 2 weeks ago
@SlyDessertFox
Hold on, u are confused. Greek states were divided before this battle but this battle was one of the many that united them against a common foreign enemy. The Pelopenesian war was one of the many Greek civil wars and lasted from 431 B.C. until 404 B.C., not all Greek civil wars were called Peloponesians! It is true that Philip unified all Greek states by force because some of them opposed to this unification!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 I know but what the video was saying is this kept the Greeks unified for well afterward.
SlyDessertFox 2 weeks ago
@SlyDessertFox
The battle of Thermopylae was one of the most significant factors that led to the Greek unification in order to avenge the Persian invasion! It was like the turning point that made them think more of their common national descent rather their regional!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 What you dont understand is after their wars with persia, they broke out into a series of wars with each other. They didnt remain united after Thermopylae and the wars with Persia. They went back to fighting each other. Phillip CONQUERED them.
SlyDessertFox 2 weeks ago
@SlyDessertFox
Here we go again. What don't u get? Did i say that the Greeks after Thermopylae remained united? I said that after that the spark of unification began to become stronger, do u understand that? Greeks had civil wars before Thermopylae, after and even in the more recent years. Pay more attention to what i say!
SPARTANsenator7 1 week ago
@SlyDessertFox
...and one more thing.....on the Macedonian coallition against Athens and Theba (which were against the Greek unification) there were many other Greek states as well like Focea, Lokroi, Thessalians and others.....like i said get some classes on Greek history. Did The Qin dynasty in China who unified all Chinese kingdoms by war was not Chinese as well? Attila who unified all Huns by war was not a Hun himself? Get some proper education.
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago 4
@SPARTANsenator7 The ancient greeks did not consider macedon greek at the time.
SlyDessertFox 5 days ago
@SlyDessertFox
says who? u? Then how come the Macedonians were allowed in Greek events like the Olympic Games, the Pythian Games and the Greek assembly known as Amfyktionia? Read what Pausanias, Strabo and Polybius say about the Greek kingdom of Macedonia and stop writing nonsense that give away your ignorance on Greek history!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago
@SlyDessertFox
"Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9 (Loeb, H.L. Jones)
"It is your privilege, as one who has been blessed with untrammeled freedom, to consider all Hellas your fatherland, as did the founder of your race". Isocrates, To Philip, 127 (Loeb, G. Norlin)
And it's not Macedon it's Macedonia, Macedon (ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ) is called the resident of that region not the region itself.....that's typical Greek!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago
WTF this is Rome total war
dovahkiin2 2 weeks ago
@dovahkiin2 I sense by your nickname that you haven't played any pc strategy games before skyrim. Or any games at all before skyrim.
flyingspagetti 2 weeks ago
You can beat the persians with only 10 spartans...yeah ten - all armed with 6-barreled chain guns, AA-12 shotguns, claymores, grenades, and 80-mm mortar, 3 million rounds of ammo and three-set mc donald's value meal.
IMNODOCTOR 2 weeks ago
spartans were wearing red clothes to make the blood invisible
TheMitsaras98 2 weeks ago
@TheMitsaras98
true
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
this 3d graphics, what is the name of this video game like graphics? anyone?
waibes23 3 weeks ago
@waibes23
Some say it's Rome Total War!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 where do you think i can purchase this game?
waibes23 2 weeks ago
@waibes23
i guess in every store with video games!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
at 6:69 BS there were an other 1000 Greek solders that stayed behind to fight with the Spartans
DYNEX0EFFECT 3 weeks ago
@DYNEX0EFFECT
another 700 not 1000! There were 300 Spartans and 700 Thespians!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago 5
@SPARTANsenator7 accually the real number was close to 1100 spartians with about 3000ish of other greek states.
nagel133 2 weeks ago
@nagel133
no, the numbers are the ones i gave!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 there were 300 spartans and up to 500,000 persians
fattymcstat01 1 week ago
@fattymcstat01
i gave the numbers in another comment!
SPARTANsenator7 5 days ago
What is this video called ? i mean the name of the program :P
tom280192 3 weeks ago
@tom280192
Rome Total War i think!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@tom280192 it is total war. Rome total war to be specific. One of the best strategy games in my opinion with a huge community. You can buy it pretty cheaply on Steam.
ryox82 2 weeks ago
You know, I keep hearing about Spartans and Greeks fighting for FREEDOM. Perhaps there freedom, but you know that they had a lot of slaves right? Somme of those asisted in the battle (I think it was 600 - 700) - they were all put to death by there masters. After all, they tasted battle and might use that knowlage in somme kinde of rebelion.
Reket11 3 weeks ago
@Reket11
Of course they fought for their freedom, isn't what everyone else does? Everyone fights for their own freedom. And yes the had slaves cause that was a normal thing in antiquity. You make one of the biggest mistakes, you judge the past with today's standards and you reach the wrong conclusions. And no, the slaves were not put to death by their masters as u said :)
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
God is on the side of bigger battalions.
But Spartans could prove God wrong.
Peaceonearth1107 3 weeks ago
is that speirs?
ORV1993 3 weeks ago
No, the Thebans were at Thermopylae, 400 according to both Herodotus and Diodorus. Herodotus specifically mentions them during the last day and accuses them of surrendering basically immediately once the Persians began attacking. According to Herodotus, the Thebans claimed Leonidas kept them with the Greek army by force and they were friendly to the Persian cause, later historians have claimed this was propaganda invented after Thebes joined Xerxes after Thermopylae.
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
Pay attention that i am talking about the final battle, so please tell me in which part exactly does Herodotus say that the Thebans fought with the 300 Spartans and the 700 Thespians. I am just curious! and please don't tell me about wikipedia, i mean the actual work! Thanks!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 Like I said - Herodotus claims that the Thebans fought for part of the last battle, then surrendered and claimed they were on the Persians' side (book 7, para. 233). He claimed that the Thebans were kept there because Leonidas was unsure of their true loyalties and wanted them kept close. Some modern historians, like JF Laenzby, cite Plutarch in saying this didn't make sense and the Thebans (at the battle, not the Theban oligarchs) were probably loyal.
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
Dude i was clear, i asked for the citations on Herodotus' work, the actual source and u tell me (book 7, para 233)..............can u give me the proper citation?
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7
The Histories is split up into books, the reference to the Thebans being there on the last day is with the rest of the Battle of Thermopylae in book 7, and the specific reference is in paragraph/section 233 (Herodotus theorizes about why Leonidas kept them in section 205).
You can read it at Gutenberg (gutenberg(dot)org), search for The Histories (it's also on google books but easier to find there)
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
Each book has a certain name. e.g. "Kalliopi".
And if u see the Thebans as u said yourself, did not fight, they deserted, so the Greeks that fought were the Spartans and the Thespians as i told u!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7
Uh yeah...all I had said was that there were Thebans too but nobody was really sure what they did (Herodotus says they gave up, Plutarch/modern historians suggest they fought on). You were the one who said "700 Thespians stayed with the 300 Spartans but there were no Thebans that stayed!"
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
we are talking about a battle and the people that fought not any by standers or "spectators", did any Theban fight? No, so there u go!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7
All I had said is that there was debate over what the Thebans were doing there on the last day (Herodotus says they gave up right away, others say they actually fought), you're the one who's spent about two weeks dancing around picking a fight over nothing.
MrAmazingjace 2 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
Don't give me an aattitude, i was clear from point one that i am speaking about the battle, it is you who kept saying that Thebans were also there...and i ask again...were they at the BATTLE? And the answer is no!
SPARTANsenator7 2 weeks ago
αυτο που δε θα καταλαβετε ποτε δυτικοπιθηκοι ειναι πως δεν μετραει η στρατηγικη τοσο οσο η πατριδα!! ασπιδα ειναι το σωμα μου και ψυχη μου το χωμα που πατω!! τοσο απλα και ξεκαθαρα προβατακια αμερικανακια!!
MrKaminis 3 weeks ago
@MrKaminis
"The walls of Sparta were its young men, and its borders the points of their spears." King Agesilaos
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
Rome total war... always will be my favorite game lol
robotcow28 3 weeks ago
Eery time i hear about the spartans i'ts differant in one the spartans won in another there were ONLY spartan, no greek soldier and then theres this where the spartans lost.
ertyuiopsnake 3 weeks ago
@ertyuiopsnake
What's the different thing that you hear? There were 300 Spartans in Thermopylae along with another 7000 other Greeks against more than 300.000 Persians. After 2 days of battle and since a traitor infrormed the Persians bout a secret passage, king Leonidas ordered the rest of the Greeks to retreat and he stayed to fight till death with his 300 Spartans and 700 Thespians.
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 it's differant because in this it says the spartans lost but in another one it says the spartans won
ertyuiopsnake 3 weeks ago
@ertyuiopsnake
in which one? Maybe u got confused, the Spartans lost the battle but won the war and right after that battle, the Persians lost all battles, the Spartans took their revenge in the battle of Platea!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7 as the other Greeks were told to retreat.
dday1999FTW 3 weeks ago
@dday1999FTW
Leonidas told them to!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
What is this Rome total war?
dongdongco 3 weeks ago
@dongdongco
a game
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@dongdongco search for a guy caleed PRINCEOFMACEDON and youll know :) its a fantastic game :)
ihatesaskue 3 weeks ago
Rome Total War :DD
kenni130 3 weeks ago
SPARTA
zeljkovolk 3 weeks ago
Not all the Greeks had left by the last day - the Thespians stayed voluntarily (which is why there is a monument to them), the Thebans were forced to stay according to some sources, volunteered to stay according to others.
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
700 Thespians stayed with the 300 Spartans but there were no Thebans that stayed!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7
Yes, Thebans were definitely there too (a few hundred of them). They largely surrendered right away, which is why a lot of sources claim they were there as hostages because Leonidas (correctly) distrusted Theban loyalty to the Greek cause. Modern sources suggest they might have been Theban democrats who volunteered to stay but I'm not sure how that makes sense with their surrender.
MrAmazingjace 3 weeks ago
@MrAmazingjace
In the last battle there were no Thebans for sure, it is said that Thebans tried to join the Persians out of fear when they invaded Greece and that's why Alexander the Great destroyed Theba after the battle of Chaeronea, because the rest of the Greeks suggested that they should pay for their lack of commitment to the Greek struggle.
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
It look like ROME TOTAL WAR hahahahahah
AlexAnder211999 4 weeks ago
@AlexAnder211999 i think it is rome total war :P
alextoons060395 3 weeks ago
We ppl from Balkan where idiots back then Greeks spill their blood to stop Persians entering the Europe , Serbia stop Turks 1389 all man die in battle to save christianity , to stop Turks from advancing to Europe ,etc... . And today this Europe is telling us that we cannot enter EU and destroy are economy so they can buy as all and virtualy enslave Western Europe and USA u are in depth to Greek and Serbia . You will pay it for that one day , I will smile when EU colaps .
Nikola9922 4 weeks ago
@Nikola9922
NWO lobbies use their puppet bankers and politicians to bring people to their knees, so we must fight against them!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
Only Gods world forever...
MrSamle68 4 weeks ago
that rome total war
MrProducer55 1 month ago
Λ ЭЄ ΕΛΛΑΣ HELLAS
christosnsk 1 month ago 18
@christosnsk
Σωστός!
SPARTANsenator7 4 weeks ago
Hi tech cgi = rome total war?
Woth3n 1 month ago 18
@Woth3n Remember, when this show was made, it was state of the art technology.
SlyDessertFox 2 weeks ago
@Woth3n yeah this is definately rome total war. hoplites and eastern infantry trololol
BeTheBe5t 2 weeks ago
@Woth3n
It's even the music of Rome:Total War.
thedutchman01 2 weeks ago
@Woth3n fuck yeah best game ever why not use it?
crapsonashovel 2 weeks ago
well really the 300 spartans and about 1000 others fought but the spartans lasted the longest
Recesity 1 month ago
@Recesity
there was 7000 other greeks, and 1000 navy ships blocking Xerxe's Navy.
How-ever there was over 300,000 Persians at the fight (not millions) and the Spartans lasted longest because their sacrifice costed Xerxes greatly.
by the first day, 10,000 Persians had died. Over 40,000 Greeks met them at the after-battle where Xerxes was defeated.
RyanBrooksby 1 month ago
@RyanBrooksby
The 7000 other Greeks had left the last day of the battle!
SPARTANsenator7 4 weeks ago
@SPARTANsenator7
Yeah I know, I forgot to mention that as I was in a hurry.
They left warning the obviously-better equipped Greek force to crush the ill-equipped Persian force.
RyanBrooksby 4 weeks ago
@RyanBrooksby
You are welcome to watch the rest of my videos, u will like them!
SPARTANsenator7 3 weeks ago
ROME TOTAL WAR!
ImperiumCalibur 1 month ago
is this rome total war ?
Nikola949 1 month ago
@Nikola949 it's rome total war software but not rome total war
GamerDrumerAnimer 1 month ago
how did the Greeks keep count of the number of dead soldiers lost in battle?
Why were the Greeks winning?
cchiy05101663 1 month ago
@cchiy05101663
It was not difficult to keep count. If i am not mistaken, the Spartans before every battle, they each deposited an item, after the battle, they claimed it back......the unclaimed items equaled the number of the dead!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago 2
@cchiy05101663 the spartans were highly trained soldiers which were grown as soldiers from a very young age. They were superior in skill during the battle of thermopylae
NightWolf1928 1 month ago
lol comics
HandsomeStranger1963 1 month ago
Dude.... I nor noticed... The narrator in the blue shirt with the watch is Lt. Ronald Spears from Band of Brothers! He was so badass in that HBO series! Thumbs up for Band of Brothers!
TheDrunkenAcorn 1 month ago
@TheDrunkenAcorn Yeah it't Matthew Settle.
hornetgags 4 weeks ago
Always an inspiration to western Civilization and values against whatever evil emerges from Persia.
modernredeye 1 month ago
@modernredeye ?
snkv12 1 month ago
The spartans the USMC of there day go devil dogs!
sass225 1 month ago
what's the rtw mod for this? i really like the cataphract hoplites!
MagicEmiel 1 month ago
WTF IS THIS ROME TOTAL WAR
XgrosskomterX 1 month ago
@XgrosskomterX RTS computer game. very good, from what i hear, and what i now see.
xXxforkboyxXx 1 month ago
Imagine. One B-52 bomber wing and a brigade of US Army soldiers with M16s vs the 250000 man persian army. That would be a massacre.
Howlingvicer1 1 month ago
@Howlingvicer1
You wouldn't even need the Ground troops, The B-52s would destroy them. Kill the leader and the enemy retreats. And they don't have AA guns
supercoolguy43 1 month ago
@Howlingvicer1 wow
snkv12 1 month ago
Lmao did they use Rome total war?
WaffleUnderworld 1 month ago
1:00
TheGulpen 1 month ago
Yo no spik ingles
killerloveize 1 month ago
Excellent.
randorfja 1 month ago
Ρε εντομεταξύ αφτοί κάνουν χρόνια να τα μάθουν ενώ εμείς απο 3 δημοτικού.Τρολλ
AlxanderLP124 1 month ago
do they have videos like this for the other games
mrajaxx12 1 month ago
@mrajaxx12
I don't know!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
@mrajaxx12 many games all amazing, that is a battle screen, new game is Shogun
SyperELS 1 month ago
Rome Total War my favorite game! :)
MsSamQC 1 month ago
I like how they say theyre using hitech cgi when ita just rome total war
jamesdc95 1 month ago
@jamesdc95
:)
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
Does anyone else see a naked women in the suggestions?
airforce9872 1 month ago
this game is rome total war
MrYeahbuddah 1 month ago
im greek and this whole history lesson is completely wrong they cant even pronounce the kings name
savoulis1 1 month ago
@savoulis1
it has some flaws and wrong pronunciations but u cannot say it's entirely wrong!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
GREEK ORTODOX BROTHERS!
fuck albania
vlakikg 1 month ago
Thats cool to see Rome: total war used for this. such an amazing game
DawnofRTS 1 month ago
when the spartans died, xerxes ordered his men to cut off king leonidas's head, his last living men were in outrage and fight till their dying breath, and one thing about the movie, in reality, the spartans were heavily armored with heavy armors and shields.
mariosnikiforakis 1 month ago
does anyone here knows the real story of the thermopylae?
andespuri 1 month ago
@andespuri
yes
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
@andespuri What would you like to know?
TheKazanokefalos 1 month ago
its funny how they use Rome total war for the video, which makes the game look even more awesome :)
SpartanMe4 1 month ago
this is extremely biased.
StuckScarab 1 month ago
@StuckScarab
why?
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
Much Respect to those Courageous 300 Spartan Warriors, let them NEVER be forgotten for their Great Sacrifice they made that day to forever keep their Freedom, let their legacy live on for generations to come !!! Truly Inspiring !! Awoo !!!
Spetsnazo123 1 month ago 10
@Spetsnazo123
well said!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
@Spetsnazo123 What about the 1500+ athenian soldiers with them?
DukeOfTennessee117 1 month ago
@DukeOfTennessee117
There were no Atheneans in the last battle dude!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
@SPARTANsenator7 Yes but they were there for the rest of the battle's, is that so hard for people to understand that they returned home to defend there homes and families, meanwhile the spartans dies... also the spartans were not at the battle of marathon because of a holiday and they were very superstitious,meanwhile athens was wiping out the persians off of the shores of greece....
DukeOfTennessee117 1 month ago
@DukeOfTennessee117
In the battle of Thermopylae the Athenians fought mostly at the naval battles in Artemisium, as for Marathon indeed they fought alone. No one tries to underestimate their huge impact in the war against Persians!
SPARTANsenator7 1 month ago
Rome Total War!
JazzcoreBNP 1 month ago
lol rome total war used for a historical documentary, even the music
ildaniele1 1 month ago
one thing it was 7000 greek hoplite soldiers including 300 spartin soldiers and 1 spartin king so historiens need help with math good job with the battle throw
John2r1 1 month ago