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Ron Paul in the US has legislation to introduce competing currencies of Constitutional sound money, gold and silver. The bill is called H.R. 1098 I believe
AAARRRGH we're supposed to be so smart in the west!! Bullshit!!! I want gold and silver money in Australia!! HONEST MONEY HONEST MONEY!!! Great vid. Great message.
We must learn to accept one another regardless of religion, race, or any other division. Being a libertarian doesn't mean that we just have sound money. We also have to provide for secularism, capitalism, and Enlightenment ideas including freedom of religion and press. Appeasing the mullahs doesn't allow that; remember that there a death penalty for riddah (apostasy) in shariat. We should follow whatever religion (or lack thereof) we like, and learn to live in harmony with one another. Peace!
Yes, there have been numerous CIA interventions (including the most recent one in Egypt), but there were the 7th century Arab conquests and the Ottoman Turks in the Balkans and Armenia too. Muslims have also spilled the blood of one other, whether it is Sunni-Shi'a strife, Wahhabi-Sufi antagonism, or Pakistanis massacring the Bangladeshis and vice versa. Yes, there was the Babri Masjid that was demolished in Ayodhya, but were not Muslims responsible for Somnath in 1026?
People of all colours, creeds, religions, and races have wronged one another in the past. Whatever our caste, class, sectarian, or tribal affiliation, we are not as innocent as we may attempt to portray the fellow members of our background. Jews have committed zulm (tyranny), Catholics have, Protestants, Hindus, Buddhists, and certainly Muslims. As someone who has studied my religion and its history, I know that Muslims have both wronged and been wronged.
I have been reading the comments. Some people seem to misunderstand America's role in this geo-political mess. In all actuality, the United States has been hijacked by an offshore cartel of mega-corporate fascist bankers, for almost a hundred years now since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Also, there's an extremely skewed understanding of history. Some people think the U.S. is flawless, while others speak in glowing terms of Islam and Islamic law. Both views are flawed.
Sound money (gold and silver coinage) is a very good idea! However, I do not want sound money because Allah and His Rasool told me to use it, which is a very stupid reason. I want sound money for sound money's sake, simply because it makes common sense. I am a secular Muslim, and I don't want shari'ah to run my life! Why can't we have a gold standard and keep the absurdly mediaeval religious rules out of it? I abhor tyranny, whether it is the New World Order or its Old World variant!
Meat is murder. Nobody can claim to have "moral values" who eats meat when they have the opportunity to work collectively to create a vegetarian system.
The chickens looked cool with the yellow feet sticking up in the air! I never see them that way because they try to make meat look like a synthetic idea/abstraction over here.
Anyways, awesome vid about sound money! Very well done! I completely agree that it is a matter of freedom, justice, and honesty. Fiat money is a lie, and if you start with a lie, you'll end up with a lie.
Sorry evadidio but that's not true. A very large percentage of industrial silver is either used for plating, where you absolutely need 999. Silver as colloid or nanodispersed - again 999. Another big application is jewellry where 925 and 935 silver is used. And as silver is normally extracted from a copper-silver ore mix by an electrolytic method, it comes as 950 to 990 material allready from the first production process.
Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of Hosts. Gold and silver do not belong to men and God help the money changers of today. LOL!
@NomendeiNL same price like the market price. a dinar is 4.25 gram gold. u can do the math. no need to melt. the dinar is designed so it can be easily distributed as currency. if u have gold bars like 1 kilograms r u going to shop with it? thats how the dinar is designed.
This is precicely why gold, platinum & silver are the perfect money. They represent keep the labour and energy required to produce them in a safe & convenient way for world-wide use, without conversion fees and tricks. Unless you want to go shopping and smoke a fag with pockets full of petrol...
Paper money is worth what others accept, as gold or/and silver.
Energy should be the value, units of energy you get from consuming ... what you need to move-function is energy, not gold or silver.
Inflation is not due to the paper, is due to the states printing as much as they will, with almost no restrictions, gold is a limited resource, which makes this harder, but is only a given value you assign to gold, gold itself is of no use for most people, so you can speculate with it’s value
@fitobcnfito i agree somewhat but the acceptance of gold and silver is universal and with a proven history as a pillar of value retention. the USD is currently the reserve currency by default of bretton woods so there needs to be discipline from central bankers but the intrinsic value of paper money will always return to 0. as for speculating, its the leverage and centralization of the underlining security or precious metal that make its speculative....gold/silver as a barter system works.
@HermandLo I like much the gold/silver (as you say is best than paper), and for other reasons: with real value on the peoples hands, and not in the banks in return for paper, POWER is back to citizens, and state will need to pay more attention to us.
Never the less, I like o measure things by ENERGY UNITS, as the value for evaluating everything, if we did so, we would also change our ways regarding economics and ecology (how much energy do you get from food, and how much used to produce it)
@fitobcnfito True, only if the gouvernements don't declare the possess of silver and gold as illegal, as it was during the 1929 crash.Capitalism is a more complex thing than what imams and muslims in general think.You cannot have international transaction without paper chéques, or online trading.And you can't go around with silver coins without being stolen.Having a covering in silver and gold granted by the National State ( so not in private hands)'s okay, but not for replacing paper money.
@evadidio But paper cheques/money should be a value against something (as used to be gold), not just against a promises of a state to pay you “out of the hat”, as it is now. They print based on confidence they will pay you back (and that is the only value of that paper)... and I have little or less confidence on that every day ;-O
They need money => they print money => they promes they will have money in the future to pay that value O.o! WTF? I expect them having less money tomorrow than today.
@fitobcnfito Of course.But keep in mind that there is a very low extraction of gold and the demand is too much high,and the silver is used in industry in a huge amounts.I think silver and gold could help protect your investment as a form of tesaurization, in the same way a piece of land does, but cannot return as a currency spending everyday as the muslims suggest.Only in very little economies when you don't travel you can apply this system,not worldwide.
@evadidio Land in Spain sucks, it's going down big time, and will follow the trend for long (it has to go down at least a 30% of its actual price), silver I think is the best choice, since is not only an accepted economic value, but a good that as you mention has an increasing demand by industry. I agree, paper is needed, but money is not the only value paper in the market. For small transactions is necessary, but you should not have your value savings in money.
@fitobcnfito For investment in a long term and to save the personal capital, could be okay, of course. For crushing monetary system as the imams say... I think it needs something more stronger than gold and silver.Considering that the manipulators own the large amounts of gold around the world, they surely are planning to destroy the paper system to introduce the online system.At that point, they will downgrade gold and silver again.It's a game for them, as they did with diamonds.
@evadidio That’s why I prefer silver to gold, because silver is a consumable demanded in industry, not so much subject to speculation as gold, that has almost no demand out of financial investment. There are other metals and energy resources that can be purchased, but not many that you can actually have as a physic real item. Uranium is top, but is evident you can’t keep that home ;)
@fitobcnfito Silver for industry is not 999 pure.They use a 910 recycled silver which has no mark.999 is useless for industry.This is another thing people don't know... there's a huge affair in pushing on gold and silver now.
@evadidio O.o! I'm don’t know chemistry, but it seems to me that you can make 999 pure silver , to 910 silver by adding other metal component, and make your silver useful for industrial use. Upgrade it is impossible, but downgraded should be always possible (getting more kgs, per kg of pure silver). Never the less you are correct in the fact people think gold/silver are free from speculation, and that is not true at all, is as money, it's value depends on controlled demand/acceptance by market.
@fitobcnfito I was saying, silver for industry request a 910 percentage, not 999. 999 is only for investment purposes and coins, too pure and too tender to be useful in industry. Adding silver to 910 when the extraction is really rigid and the silver powder is lesser and lesser doesn' t make silver a real affair for currency after all.I hope James Turk and Tim Butler are right: but there are a lot of doubts about the possibility of silver as the 'new gold'.
Brilliant plan, let's use a finite commodity like gold as currency, do these people not see a problem: Total gold divided by people in the world gives each of us 23 grams - what happens when some smart arse starts buying and hoarding gold? Yep, uncontrollable rampant inflation!
@frack136 Right! There is certainly not enough gold to go around. In fact paper currency is the reason for the economic expansion in the West...gold would have been too scarce to finance such an expansion we saw in the US. Paper money has its problems...but Gold hoarding, and scarcity will be even worse.
That doesn't make any sense. If people started hoarding gold then there would be less units of currency in circulation - that's deflation - prices would drop.
Deflation is not a bad thing. People always say that if prices are dropping then people would hoard and nobody would buy anything if it's cheaper tomorrow - but that's not true. Laptop and TV prices have been dropping for the last 10 years and lots of people are buying them.
its not the money that is broken. but the system! gold and silver (and whatever you use) has an unstable value too. its rarity makes its value stable (or increasing). once its spread in current society, its price will fall too.
So, as inflation devalues the rupiah, the price of a goat increases, when you pay in rupiah. Over a period of twenty years, does the price of a goat in gold dinars stay the same? If the answer is yes, that means there will always be two different prices for something; one price if paid in dinars, and the other price if paid in rupiah. If the price of a goat in dinars goes up over time, then the dinar owner should just save the dinars in a hiding place, and sell them as gold for rupiah as needed.
Yes, this mindset exposing the Zionist Banksters Bullshit! They hate people who thinks like this, if the sheeple awaken and adopt this kind of monetary system of gold/silver as honest money and medium of exchange, it will be the end of the Nefarious Banksters! Good Riddance to rubbish I say!
I se now why they devastated africa and do eveything in their power to render them unable to fight and in constant distress- war and bullshit laws made by the ones with better weapons that take control of their land and gold and diamonds..
@sisseeboy, so is the Islamic stand on the role of government, the role of the family, the responsibilities of us as individuals, I could tell you more, but research it yourself, unfortuantely we Muslims have forgotten Islamic values, but slowly we are getting them back.
This film could be part of a wake-up for duped; "Re-Humanizing the Muslim world" The US gov. has created an nebulous enemy that we cannot "see" or "defend against" ourselves... Like krauts, chinks or gooks... yanks or rebs. It does not matter, the "Enemy" must be less than human in the minds of the ignorant masses. Fiat currency shows the ignorance of the masses, where real money shows the need for stability in all peoples. "All men are created equal" (the American claim of independence?)
We in the west see a lot of problems with a strict interpretation of Sharia law (or Hebrew law, as laid out in the Torah, for that matter.) However, the mandating of sound money is brilliant. Perhaps Muslims should remind their governments, in the countries with theocratic or near-theocratic rule of this. (The same with Israel for that matter. They would do well to start using REAL shekels [silver coins weighing about 2/5 of an ounce] again.)
Very interesting. When this has been tried in the USA (having competing currencies in gold and silver parallel with federal reserve notes) the people doing it were arrested. That's probably because what the guy say here is true, silver and gold in the hands of the people represents freedom from government control and manipulation of the money supply.
@lgfarlow People get arrested because of the legal tender laws, which make possible the machinations of a central bank and their printing of paper money. Without that force of law, people would choose a different medium of exchange over that which can be printed into oblivion.
He used a term "dollar" (liberty dollar) and hence got in trouble. I doubt he would get away with "Islamic money". If he had used "tola" (old world measure of gold/silver approx 11.33 gm), they would have still gotten him - but maybe not prosecuted him successfully, and use of the term "dollar" became that technicality.
They are confusing "medium of exchange" and "store of wealth". I guarantee that if the takes his 100rb bill and goes to a shop, it is very conveniently exchanged to anything he wants...a little more convenient than having to take a goat, because that's all someone can pay him with? This is MONEY.
Now it's a different thing, if they think that GOLD is a store of wealth. It could be diamonds, other rare metals, land, even (results of) human work.
Bernanke knows exactly what he's doing. He is not fooled. He knows what the people will believe because they've gotten away with it for almost 100 years now. We just need to educate everyone by spreading the word of what is really going on. Favorite this video and share it everywhere - Facebook, Twitter, etc.
If any video has ever NEEDED to go viral, it is this one.
This is not just a "Muslim" thing. This is a "Human" thing.
it would be nice if the title or description explained more about the video so more ppl could find it ..... thanx to umhalil for sharing this with me....
@Robert697 Yep this needs to go viral... it explains the basics of a sound monetary system and the problems with the current system. It also demonstrates how to peacefully revolt against the system... and provides a counter image to the propaganda that media is now pushing to get the public behind a war with Iran (ie. not all muslims are backward and need the US to bring 'freedom' to them). Viva la revolution!
It's easy to print dollars with linen and ink. It takes a lot of work to mine for gold and silver. Those who counterfeit dollars (especially the Federal Reserve) are ripping people off without having to put sweat into the earth, or picking people's pocket. And now that the Banksters own Washington, they don't fear getting caught.
Each time they mint more money, you KNOW they're buying gold, silver and real estate for themselves. They are prepared for the USD crash.
You mean YEHUDEE, yes I have heard this. Indeed they may name a country after their name, BUT lack any honor or prestige. Palestine would not be a issue if the PROSTITUTE SAUDI HOUSE did not sell them to the zionists & Judas the OTTOMANS. They call this part of ASIA middle east which is COLONIAL PUPPET name.
But these Muslims are a inspiration to all.
Fear not Father ASIA is healing, the sons of Asia are rising.
Real human innovation and problem resolution is a joy to behold!! This is happening in the U.S. now too, more and more local currency. It's totally legal to make local money it's just not considered and can't be called "legal tender" which means a bank can't accept it. Like we care. Alternative money sytems are sprouting too rapidly now for them to control. It's just under the wire... for now.
Simple ..right ? Only in America is the dollar revered. Ignorance knows no bounds I suppose. For those who know the truth they will protect their wealth. Those who do not will have their hands out to the government.
Absolutely no documentation on this video. Who uploaded this? Could you please edit it better next time (just the part about the title would be nice) and maybe let us know where you found it? If for no other reason than to give the owner credit for their work. Shoddy upload, excellent video.
@Zutaiola Oh I see now, The US doesn't want to go back to a currency system based on gold, probably because gold based currency systems have repeatedly failed throughout history, and that's why 'the US seems so against Islam?'(sic) Is that correct?
@frack136 So quote "gold based currency systems have repeatedly failed throughout history" Could you tell us when that happened? Wich and when those currency sistems failed?
@Zutaiola Ionians, Athenians, Romans, Venetians, Spanish, British ...
Take a look at galmarley (DOT) com/framesets/fs_monetary_history_faqs.htm
The video ' Gold Dinar, Silver Dirham' was filmed in Indonesia and illustrates what happens when a currency becomes unstable, In the late 90's these same people were selling their rupiah for dollars, now the dollar has had it they're buying gold, the reverse of Gresham's Law.
@frack136 So all those civilizations/empires collapsed because they use gold as currency??? You have a very curious interpretation of History my friend, and dangerously simple. The only reason we have not a gold based economy today is because EEUU president Nikson economic measures,the so call NIKSON SHOCK .You should take a look at it too my friend.
@Zutaiola 'So all those civilizations/empires collapsed because they? use gold as currency???' - No that was not what I said, what I did actually ask you was 'Is that correct?' of my observation of the comments posted by Journeywithin after you called me blind, you seem to agreed with Journeywithins comment however you have failed to answer my original question and are now talking about Nixon.
@Zutaiola My original statement was actually incorrect, and should have said all gold coin currency's have failed, as using gold as currency is what this video is advocating.
Its not the US. She is run by the FED which is a private bank appuratus. The US people gain ZERO by going out and fighting wars so the Banks can loan her paper money, and then force her to pay back in Real money with interest. The US is an enforcement and intimidation tool of the banks and Trans-national corporations. And not even half as powerful as paper money. Take away Fake money, and the ability to wage unjust war is gone. It is the first & most important battlefront.
@Journeywithinn The real reasons US is against islam is because of their relentless push toward world domination by means of terror and fear mongering. Beheadings, raping, burnings, destructiveness. Problem is we don't fear them here in America, we see it for what is really is. Nothing more than low IQ bullies with knives. Well, I've got a weapon too and i'm more than happy to "share". LOL!
Really With over 1.2 Billion Muslims in the world... If their intention was to kill everyone else off... they just need to kill 10 people per Muslim... then eliminate everyone else... So in over 1400years they havent... why?
Your really asking me this question? Because the world outnumbers Muslims? 7 Billion on the Earth and only 1.2 Billion Muslims? Also, here in America, we have our weapons. Mexico, Switzerland, Haiti, Guatemala, Yemen, Japan and other Nations, citizens carry weapons legally. All Nations are not as easy to conquer as you would wish. This has go to be one of the stupidest self edifying questions I've ever been asked. Glad to hear the Christians are fighting back in Egypt! Bravo!
In over 1400 years how come there still are Christian in Egypt?... & Jews in Iran??? If the Muslims are as blood-thirsty as you say... how come they havent been massacred (like many minorities in Europe & America - i.e Jews in Spain, Natives in America)
Muslims must the worst exterminators of minorities??!?
You wrote "The real reasons US is against islam is because of their relentless push toward world domination by means of terror and fear mongering. "
HAhahahahHAHAHAhahhaahahha ...a real stereotypical redneck worldview. TV works wonders.
Well before the US sends thousands of paid murderers to attack people in other countries , they wage a propaganda war on their own children, turning them into psychotic blood thirsty murderous cowards who will serve the state when needed.
@Iseeyoursoul It has failed to impress me the name calling, labeling that muslims use. What's next?
Fears not working, name calling is not working, what is your next move? I'm not surprised by your actions, just proves you low mentality. Pity there is no count of the number of Lives saved from islamic slaughters.
Do u have a better excuse for the continual drive into other Nations? Muslims are oil hungry. Proof? 01-16-2011 A.D. - Lebanon Hezbollah Spoiling for Israel? /watch?v=qCq74z-f4eY
@Iseeyoursoul Don't see Americans in such a way.I'm European and I know a lot of Americans, they are nice and tired of war.Ask yoursef who rules US (NOT Obama... he's only a puppet ), and you will see who push Americans to loose their life against thier own interests. Americans are like too-grown kids: easy to manipulate. EU is surely more ancient in this, even if we too are giving up against treacherous serpents.
You see the name americans covers a wide range of people living in that area. Many of them don't support their "rulers" and know the state is nothing but a legal mafia, those aren't the "americans" I'm talking about if you can even call them that.
The americans I'm referring to are the statists who back the wars and concept that they need to be managed by government like cattle. The ones who blindly follow any new legislation or regulation passed. They deserve all my condemnation.
The "americans" want to have pride in their blood soaked flag, while at the same time avoid and deny criticism for their blatant intrusion and violence upon the world. They want their cake and to eat it too.
They wish to wave a flag and be worshiped as heroes by a starry eyed world, while at the same time funding foreign dictators, smothering out innocent lives and imprisoning all who reject the system.
How "nice" can citizens truly be when they support a system such as this?
@Iseeyoursoul A lot of true Americans are understanding who does the politics in thier country, And, as you say, those 'behind the scene' treat the people like cattle. The day before Christmas 150 war veterans were arrested in front of the White House while they were demonstrating against war in Afghanisthan. They were enjailed, and this begins to happens quite often in US.The truth is: there are parasites among Americans as there were in URSS and now in Europe.People need to awaken.
@Iseeyoursoul Don't see Americans in such a way.I'm European and I know a lot of Americans, they are nice and tired of war.Ask yourself who rules US (NOT Obama... he's only a puppet ), and you will see who pushes Americans to loose their life against thier own interests. Americans are like too-grown kids: easy to manipulate. EU is surely more ancient in this, even if we too are giving up against treacherous serpents.
So why did 55bn go missing on US accounts in Afghanistan, because the terrorirsts were funded by americans. You are here for the oil, simple. And 9/11 and 7/7 in UK combined total casualties were less than 6000. Americans killed over 1million Iraqi civilians. Tell me. Who are the terrorists?
@HouseOfZafar full of shit. 1 Million Iraqis have not been killed by US Military. Military is gone now and the bombings go on, 63 killed yesturday by Islamic Terrorists. #TwirlONIT
@Zalahblue And look at the way the muslims in iraq are portrayed on TV, shouting, screaming, crying, when their children have been blown in half. WHere as the dead american soldiers are shown with the utmost respect, and in a dignified manner. So many innocent killed in iraq, and I see no accountability. Families, people from my family, just disappeared into thin smoke, from air strikes. Never heard of again. Imagine if that happen in the US on that scale. Over 1million.
@HouseOfZafar LOL! Yeah, poor pitiful Muslims who strap bombs around their own children, or how about the mothers and fathers who use themselves as suicide bombs? Yeah, poor pitiful innocent muslims? NEVER. Muslims are Never Innocent, never forgiven and never trusted. N.E.V.E.R.
So somehow over a million muslims are ALL criminals? Face the facts, the only reason theWest invaded the middle east, is for oil. And they don't mind killing millions for it. You believe in christianity right?(from looking at your picture). Where in the bible does it say you can kill millions of people who are innocent. I know there are those who strap bombs, blow up etc. But there's far more that are just innocent. I'm a muslim, are you telling me I'm not innocent?
So somehow over a million muslims are ALL criminals? Face the facts, the only reason theWest invaded the middle east, is for oil. And they don't mind killing millions for it. You believe in christianity right?(from looking at your picture). Where in the bible does it say you can kill millions of people who are innocent. I know there are those who strap bombs, blow up etc. But there's far more that are just innocent. I'm a muslim, are you telling me I'm not innocent?
@Journeywithinn I don't think so darling.I think to interests in oil of some corporativists as Rockefeller.Because having a silver or gold currency is not enough to 'threat' the capitalism.Exemple:I have to go from Germany to China to buy for 150.000 euros of export products.I can't go there with a luggage full of silver coin.And due to huge industrial use of silver, there isn't enough for a permanent currency in metal.And you know back in the Middle Age it's impossible to return.
100% Awesome!! If only the bonehead Americans would wake up!! Trade all of your worthless federal reserve notes for SILVER and GOLD now and reap the same freedom!!
WOW! No wonder the christians hate the muslim the 'west' hates the 'east'. Its hard to like people that are smarter then the conventional wisdom (status quo, stupidity, retardation, establishment)
People are people no matter where you go. If you travel all around the globe, you will find a friend staring back at you in almost every human, just like in your home town. And no, the west does not hate the east, just like the east does not hate the west.
@utubehayter I understand and agree with you. I have traveled the world and know this to be true. My comment was sarcassism at best based on the observations of ignorance at least.
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes.
Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
- Napoléon Bonaparte
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks."
The Roman system collapsed becuase they could not afford the empire anymore. The military and social welfare were costing more than they could bring in taxes. Even though their monetary system was based on gold and silver they began to debase the currency by putting less and less silver and gold in their coins. I believe the went as low as 5% of precious metal content in their coin at the end. The Romans suffered severe inflation from this debasement and eventual collapse.
The Roman system was based on gold and silver, yet it collapsed. Wasn't the collapse in some way caused by the amount of metal money in circulation being curtailed?
It's great when he rips the paper note in half. Soooo true! The "value" disappears, as neither half is acceptable on its own (ie. each half doesn't become half the denomination). Try doing that with your friends $100 bill. Show him how he doesn't end up with two $50 pieces of paper he can spend separately. Chop any PM coin in half... you get two equally valid pieces of wealth that still can be exchanged for goods.
It's unfortunate that here in America, the response to this video would be similiar to a "deer in headlights", vs a "light going off" about how were all being ripped off, or allowing the fruits of our labor to be devalued due to banking shenanigens
@ 2:54 Its the truth. investing in gold and silver will give you a real sense of freedom. And then you will see the real value of paper money,,,,, worthless.
For all of the people who want to return to a gold standard, what shall we do with the existing debt we have? We borrowed paper money, do we want to pay back gold? Debt must be destroyed first before any move to a hard currency can be made. If you think you have no debt, you are deceiving yourself. The gov has borrowed on you and your family's behalf.
@christo930 Since all treasury notes are debt based, to pay back the debt would require the collection of all dollars in circulation. And then there is the interest on that debt, but they never print dollars to pay the interest. So, A debt that cant be repaid, wont be repaid
We never had the right to sell the labor & wealth of our children anyway.
@rllang01 That is not entirely true, some of our money is simply printed into existence, it's called monetizing the debt. None of this actually answers the question, it simply points out more problems. How do we deal with the existing debt? Do all creditors just get screwed or do the debtors get screwed, or do we all get screwed but just a little less (partial repayment)?
@christo930 The screwing has been going on for a very long time. Read what Andrew Jackson said when the bankers were going to blame him for a bad economic situation that the bankers themselves created. The screwing is going to take place anyways, might as well get it over with and start over with something with a strong foundation rather than that of sand. All paper currencies will eventually return to their real intrinsic value which is zero.
@christo930 All of our money is printed ( into ) existence. every single last federal reserve note that is in circulation today was created by the issuance of treasury bills, notes & bonds (ie) debt instruments.
If you want to pay off the debt, then you must take every last single federal reserve note ( out of ) existence.
Want to pay 1/2 of the debt, then you must remove 1/2 of the currency,
The people that are screwed are the ones holding paper dollars & treasury bills, notes and bonds.
@christo930 well thats where WW3 comes in, it will be just like WW2, the entire world will be up for grabs more or less, with the winner taking all the spoils, if its the US, we'll get to do a "start over", if its China for instance, they will simply own us and everything we believe we "own".. interesting days to come for sure!!
@christo930 I say print up United States notes that are interest free, pay the banksters off and return to constitutional money. Leave the banksters with worthless paper. Put forth another amendment in the Constitution banning a central bank once and for all. I understand that I am living in a dream world, but this would get us out of the clutches of the banksters once and for all. Great post, just thought I would share my solution with you.
@christo930 Yes, the slate would have to be made clean in order to start over. Which is why it becomes a very serious national security issue. The world has forgiven Haiti's debt (in full) due to their earthquake hardships. Maybe America needs California to have the "big one" (2012 movie style), or worse, in order to wash it's debt clean. Slinking out of the debt will have the globe wanting trillions in hard assets in lieu. So they keep the current system going onwards as long as possible...
@a012345 Volunteer? Sure! I'd LOVE to hit the big red button of clean slate. Ahhhh...but see, I'm not in a position of zero and nothing. I own my house, my car, everything in it, and lots and lots of physical gold and silver stashed away. The country could financially collapse and start over, and I'm all good here on my property. If only the other 99.9% of citizens were in my position, we wouldn't even be having this discussion about the state of our phony wealth and currency.
@rightsideofhistory No, in order to have a clean slate, you included should start at zero. It's only fair. Sorry but you don't get to keep your wealth while everyone else starts at zero. It's no different than their "I am good so fuck everyone else" attitude. You seriously think if everything collapse, people would still honor your "property"? I am glad 99.9% of people are not like you with such childish thinking.
@a012345 I won't get into teaching you about money or bankruptcy... but you need to go research how a default works. If a country defaults, it's those in debt that get reset. Everything else that is free & clear, brick & mortar, physically remains. If the actual debt in the USA is $100,000+ on every head of every citizen, like I said before, I've got it, and am willing to forfeit for the greater good. It's not a "fuck everyone else" attitude. I'm just prepared. Don't hate me for it.
@rightsideofhistory You can't teach me cuz you have no clue. You're willing for other people to suffer while you have your own skin intact. That is exactly the fuck everyone else attitude. Even if a country defaults, the creditors still negotiate repayments but might take pennies on the dollar. You're willing to forfeit? What are you forfeiting by keeping everything while everyone else loses. Seriously, people like you are just assholes looking out for themselves. No different from the bankers.
I think with your Entrepreneurial skills you would be very interested in teaming up. We deal with the Precious Metals Industry. Since the dawn of time the human race has loved Gold and Silver and I think you would find our concept very intriguing. Let me ask you this, when was the last time you held Real Gold in your Hands? And where did you go to get it? You see my company is full filling the #1 dream in the world and that is to get physical Gold and Silver. Feel free to check out my Channel!
kashifbashir204 1 month ago
Ron Paul in the US has legislation to introduce competing currencies of Constitutional sound money, gold and silver. The bill is called H.R. 1098 I believe
Ron Paul 2012
tommy35ss 1 month ago
AAARRRGH we're supposed to be so smart in the west!! Bullshit!!! I want gold and silver money in Australia!! HONEST MONEY HONEST MONEY!!! Great vid. Great message.
WAKEUPNOWDAMMIT 1 month ago
Hallo,
Vraagje, van welke aflevering is deze clip genomen?
Hi,
question from wich episode is this clip being taken?
IslamDocumentaries 4 months ago
masha Allah this brother is very clever, thanks for this awesome video, i'll try to spread the message between my friends and family.
liquidus2172 5 months ago
We must learn to accept one another regardless of religion, race, or any other division. Being a libertarian doesn't mean that we just have sound money. We also have to provide for secularism, capitalism, and Enlightenment ideas including freedom of religion and press. Appeasing the mullahs doesn't allow that; remember that there a death penalty for riddah (apostasy) in shariat. We should follow whatever religion (or lack thereof) we like, and learn to live in harmony with one another. Peace!
AsifAzimabadi 9 months ago
Yes, there have been numerous CIA interventions (including the most recent one in Egypt), but there were the 7th century Arab conquests and the Ottoman Turks in the Balkans and Armenia too. Muslims have also spilled the blood of one other, whether it is Sunni-Shi'a strife, Wahhabi-Sufi antagonism, or Pakistanis massacring the Bangladeshis and vice versa. Yes, there was the Babri Masjid that was demolished in Ayodhya, but were not Muslims responsible for Somnath in 1026?
AsifAzimabadi 9 months ago
People of all colours, creeds, religions, and races have wronged one another in the past. Whatever our caste, class, sectarian, or tribal affiliation, we are not as innocent as we may attempt to portray the fellow members of our background. Jews have committed zulm (tyranny), Catholics have, Protestants, Hindus, Buddhists, and certainly Muslims. As someone who has studied my religion and its history, I know that Muslims have both wronged and been wronged.
AsifAzimabadi 9 months ago
I have been reading the comments. Some people seem to misunderstand America's role in this geo-political mess. In all actuality, the United States has been hijacked by an offshore cartel of mega-corporate fascist bankers, for almost a hundred years now since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Also, there's an extremely skewed understanding of history. Some people think the U.S. is flawless, while others speak in glowing terms of Islam and Islamic law. Both views are flawed.
AsifAzimabadi 9 months ago
Sound money (gold and silver coinage) is a very good idea! However, I do not want sound money because Allah and His Rasool told me to use it, which is a very stupid reason. I want sound money for sound money's sake, simply because it makes common sense. I am a secular Muslim, and I don't want shari'ah to run my life! Why can't we have a gold standard and keep the absurdly mediaeval religious rules out of it? I abhor tyranny, whether it is the New World Order or its Old World variant!
AsifAzimabadi 9 months ago
@TheMmakk ummm, dude, your gold and silver bars are their coins. Are you kidding?
retiredlife 9 months ago
And people wonder why half the muslim countries and most of the middle east is being bombarded by the western elite.
Also, Libya was apparently getting ready to have their own gold currency as well... we weren't about to let THAT happen! Send in the bombs!
zdrux 9 months ago
Meat is murder. Nobody can claim to have "moral values" who eats meat when they have the opportunity to work collectively to create a vegetarian system.
mphello 9 months ago
The chickens looked cool with the yellow feet sticking up in the air! I never see them that way because they try to make meat look like a synthetic idea/abstraction over here.
Anyways, awesome vid about sound money! Very well done! I completely agree that it is a matter of freedom, justice, and honesty. Fiat money is a lie, and if you start with a lie, you'll end up with a lie.
momentinpassing 9 months ago
Currently Saving in dinar and dirham 2 dinar and 40 dirhams to be exact :)
aaronkoh88 10 months ago
1:09 je ben op tv BOER!!!
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martinzwanenburg 1 year ago
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flanaganclifton 1 year ago
Are they getting the kids to sing about the currency (5:03)??
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul The kids are singing in gods will,Not about the currency but i believe that as Dinar Dirham Ie: Gold Silver is gods money :D
aaronkoh88 10 months ago
Sorry evadidio but that's not true. A very large percentage of industrial silver is either used for plating, where you absolutely need 999. Silver as colloid or nanodispersed - again 999. Another big application is jewellry where 925 and 935 silver is used. And as silver is normally extracted from a copper-silver ore mix by an electrolytic method, it comes as 950 to 990 material allready from the first production process.
JoachimWirtz 1 year ago
interviewer: Are you angry at the bank?
interviewee: no, because im fine.
thats how most people think as long as you're fine you don't care what happens to other people.
Anarchistim 1 year ago
Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of Hosts. Gold and silver do not belong to men and God help the money changers of today. LOL!
Zalahblue 1 year ago
great video!! the USD will be the mother of all dollar collapse...
HermandLo 1 year ago 5
@NomendeiNL same price like the market price. a dinar is 4.25 gram gold. u can do the math. no need to melt. the dinar is designed so it can be easily distributed as currency. if u have gold bars like 1 kilograms r u going to shop with it? thats how the dinar is designed.
zieraq 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito
This is precicely why gold, platinum & silver are the perfect money. They represent keep the labour and energy required to produce them in a safe & convenient way for world-wide use, without conversion fees and tricks. Unless you want to go shopping and smoke a fag with pockets full of petrol...
MeCallCrazy 1 year ago
Paper money is worth what others accept, as gold or/and silver.
Energy should be the value, units of energy you get from consuming ... what you need to move-function is energy, not gold or silver.
Inflation is not due to the paper, is due to the states printing as much as they will, with almost no restrictions, gold is a limited resource, which makes this harder, but is only a given value you assign to gold, gold itself is of no use for most people, so you can speculate with it’s value
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito i agree somewhat but the acceptance of gold and silver is universal and with a proven history as a pillar of value retention. the USD is currently the reserve currency by default of bretton woods so there needs to be discipline from central bankers but the intrinsic value of paper money will always return to 0. as for speculating, its the leverage and centralization of the underlining security or precious metal that make its speculative....gold/silver as a barter system works.
HermandLo 1 year ago
@HermandLo I like much the gold/silver (as you say is best than paper), and for other reasons: with real value on the peoples hands, and not in the banks in return for paper, POWER is back to citizens, and state will need to pay more attention to us.
Never the less, I like o measure things by ENERGY UNITS, as the value for evaluating everything, if we did so, we would also change our ways regarding economics and ecology (how much energy do you get from food, and how much used to produce it)
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito yep, i totally agree with energy=time=money....
i see my gold/silver purchases as capturing present time for future use...
HermandLo 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito True, only if the gouvernements don't declare the possess of silver and gold as illegal, as it was during the 1929 crash.Capitalism is a more complex thing than what imams and muslims in general think.You cannot have international transaction without paper chéques, or online trading.And you can't go around with silver coins without being stolen.Having a covering in silver and gold granted by the National State ( so not in private hands)'s okay, but not for replacing paper money.
evadidio 1 year ago
@evadidio But paper cheques/money should be a value against something (as used to be gold), not just against a promises of a state to pay you “out of the hat”, as it is now. They print based on confidence they will pay you back (and that is the only value of that paper)... and I have little or less confidence on that every day ;-O
They need money => they print money => they promes they will have money in the future to pay that value O.o! WTF? I expect them having less money tomorrow than today.
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito Of course.But keep in mind that there is a very low extraction of gold and the demand is too much high,and the silver is used in industry in a huge amounts.I think silver and gold could help protect your investment as a form of tesaurization, in the same way a piece of land does, but cannot return as a currency spending everyday as the muslims suggest.Only in very little economies when you don't travel you can apply this system,not worldwide.
evadidio 1 year ago
@evadidio Land in Spain sucks, it's going down big time, and will follow the trend for long (it has to go down at least a 30% of its actual price), silver I think is the best choice, since is not only an accepted economic value, but a good that as you mention has an increasing demand by industry. I agree, paper is needed, but money is not the only value paper in the market. For small transactions is necessary, but you should not have your value savings in money.
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito For investment in a long term and to save the personal capital, could be okay, of course. For crushing monetary system as the imams say... I think it needs something more stronger than gold and silver.Considering that the manipulators own the large amounts of gold around the world, they surely are planning to destroy the paper system to introduce the online system.At that point, they will downgrade gold and silver again.It's a game for them, as they did with diamonds.
evadidio 1 year ago
@evadidio That’s why I prefer silver to gold, because silver is a consumable demanded in industry, not so much subject to speculation as gold, that has almost no demand out of financial investment. There are other metals and energy resources that can be purchased, but not many that you can actually have as a physic real item. Uranium is top, but is evident you can’t keep that home ;)
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito Silver for industry is not 999 pure.They use a 910 recycled silver which has no mark.999 is useless for industry.This is another thing people don't know... there's a huge affair in pushing on gold and silver now.
evadidio 1 year ago
@evadidio O.o! I'm don’t know chemistry, but it seems to me that you can make 999 pure silver , to 910 silver by adding other metal component, and make your silver useful for industrial use. Upgrade it is impossible, but downgraded should be always possible (getting more kgs, per kg of pure silver). Never the less you are correct in the fact people think gold/silver are free from speculation, and that is not true at all, is as money, it's value depends on controlled demand/acceptance by market.
fitobcnfito 1 year ago
@fitobcnfito I was saying, silver for industry request a 910 percentage, not 999. 999 is only for investment purposes and coins, too pure and too tender to be useful in industry. Adding silver to 910 when the extraction is really rigid and the silver powder is lesser and lesser doesn' t make silver a real affair for currency after all.I hope James Turk and Tim Butler are right: but there are a lot of doubts about the possibility of silver as the 'new gold'.
evadidio 1 year ago
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Grensoorlog 1 year ago
@Grensoorlog You rang?
OdinsHenchman 1 year ago
Brilliant plan, let's use a finite commodity like gold as currency, do these people not see a problem: Total gold divided by people in the world gives each of us 23 grams - what happens when some smart arse starts buying and hoarding gold? Yep, uncontrollable rampant inflation!
frack136 1 year ago
@frack136 Right! There is certainly not enough gold to go around. In fact paper currency is the reason for the economic expansion in the West...gold would have been too scarce to finance such an expansion we saw in the US. Paper money has its problems...but Gold hoarding, and scarcity will be even worse.
sugarhitman 1 year ago
@frack136 "Yep, uncontrollable rampant inflation!"
That doesn't make any sense. If people started hoarding gold then there would be less units of currency in circulation - that's deflation - prices would drop.
Deflation is not a bad thing. People always say that if prices are dropping then people would hoard and nobody would buy anything if it's cheaper tomorrow - but that's not true. Laptop and TV prices have been dropping for the last 10 years and lots of people are buying them.
cyrusp100 1 year ago
fine.
DerAdler2 1 year ago
What this guy says in an attack to the US Dollar.
It is a declaration of war to the US.
What this guy says is true.
aoMaldek 1 year ago
its not the money that is broken. but the system! gold and silver (and whatever you use) has an unstable value too. its rarity makes its value stable (or increasing). once its spread in current society, its price will fall too.
ngecenk 1 year ago
So, as inflation devalues the rupiah, the price of a goat increases, when you pay in rupiah. Over a period of twenty years, does the price of a goat in gold dinars stay the same? If the answer is yes, that means there will always be two different prices for something; one price if paid in dinars, and the other price if paid in rupiah. If the price of a goat in dinars goes up over time, then the dinar owner should just save the dinars in a hiding place, and sell them as gold for rupiah as needed.
MrDorkusMaximus 1 year ago
Yes, this mindset exposing the Zionist Banksters Bullshit! They hate people who thinks like this, if the sheeple awaken and adopt this kind of monetary system of gold/silver as honest money and medium of exchange, it will be the end of the Nefarious Banksters! Good Riddance to rubbish I say!
Hendo1974 1 year ago 2
gold and silver is God's money.
Rico8458 1 year ago
I se now why they devastated africa and do eveything in their power to render them unable to fight and in constant distress- war and bullshit laws made by the ones with better weapons that take control of their land and gold and diamonds..
guapgueezee 1 year ago
im not interested in islam but the statement against fractional reserve banking and fiat currency structure is right on the "money"
sisseeboy 1 year ago 2
@sisseeboy, so is the Islamic stand on the role of government, the role of the family, the responsibilities of us as individuals, I could tell you more, but research it yourself, unfortuantely we Muslims have forgotten Islamic values, but slowly we are getting them back.
tdot22 1 year ago
just curious, but who controls the worlds gold market ?
(this sets the worlds price of gold)
homiescopies 1 year ago
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deathofisrael 1 year ago
This film could be part of a wake-up for duped; "Re-Humanizing the Muslim world" The US gov. has created an nebulous enemy that we cannot "see" or "defend against" ourselves... Like krauts, chinks or gooks... yanks or rebs. It does not matter, the "Enemy" must be less than human in the minds of the ignorant masses. Fiat currency shows the ignorance of the masses, where real money shows the need for stability in all peoples. "All men are created equal" (the American claim of independence?)
shopken1 1 year ago 2
@shopken1 ... Amen to that my freedom and liberty loving brother, amen. May God guide you!
tdot22 1 year ago
We in the west see a lot of problems with a strict interpretation of Sharia law (or Hebrew law, as laid out in the Torah, for that matter.) However, the mandating of sound money is brilliant. Perhaps Muslims should remind their governments, in the countries with theocratic or near-theocratic rule of this. (The same with Israel for that matter. They would do well to start using REAL shekels [silver coins weighing about 2/5 of an ounce] again.)
kinginsomniac 1 year ago 3
Wow, these guys are doing a fantastic service to their country. It will pay off hugely over the long term. Best of luck to them.
Although I'm interested in how they solve the issue of bimetallism since they use both gold AND silver as money at the same time.
DaryllDickens 1 year ago 2
AMEN TO THIS VIDEO ! ! !
teceyS3 1 year ago
Though I may not be Muslim or believe in religion in general, I respect this guy's interpretation of money. Bravo sound-money muslims!
renegade2142 1 year ago 16
Very interesting. When this has been tried in the USA (having competing currencies in gold and silver parallel with federal reserve notes) the people doing it were arrested. That's probably because what the guy say here is true, silver and gold in the hands of the people represents freedom from government control and manipulation of the money supply.
lgfarlow 1 year ago
@lgfarlow People get arrested because of the legal tender laws, which make possible the machinations of a central bank and their printing of paper money. Without that force of law, people would choose a different medium of exchange over that which can be printed into oblivion.
4Stanzas 1 year ago
@lgfarlow
He used a term "dollar" (liberty dollar) and hence got in trouble. I doubt he would get away with "Islamic money". If he had used "tola" (old world measure of gold/silver approx 11.33 gm), they would have still gotten him - but maybe not prosecuted him successfully, and use of the term "dollar" became that technicality.
utubehayter 1 year ago
They are confusing "medium of exchange" and "store of wealth". I guarantee that if the takes his 100rb bill and goes to a shop, it is very conveniently exchanged to anything he wants...a little more convenient than having to take a goat, because that's all someone can pay him with? This is MONEY.
Now it's a different thing, if they think that GOLD is a store of wealth. It could be diamonds, other rare metals, land, even (results of) human work.
TheSuperSubramaniam 1 year ago
GOOD PROGRESS FOR THESE GUYS,......MAY ALLAH PAYS HIS WORK IN DUNIA WAL AKHIROH,...AMIN....
ANSORI99 1 year ago 2
THOSE GUYS ARE SMARTER AND MORE LOGICAL THAN THE FEDERAL RESERVE , BERNANKE SHOULD TAKE SOME LESSONS down there !!
renegado100 1 year ago 12
@renegado100
Bernanke knows exactly what he's doing. He is not fooled. He knows what the people will believe because they've gotten away with it for almost 100 years now. We just need to educate everyone by spreading the word of what is really going on. Favorite this video and share it everywhere - Facebook, Twitter, etc.
If any video has ever NEEDED to go viral, it is this one.
This is not just a "Muslim" thing. This is a "Human" thing.
r3volution 2012!!
Robert697 1 year ago 2
yeah...i always think the banker are the criminal....no offence but its true....let use dirham once again like in the prophet time.
hamdiexile 1 year ago 2
Now THATS progressive!
MeCallCrazy 1 year ago 4
want to upload this movie to my channel!! Great post hope this wakes up my family and friends
toshibavoodoo 1 year ago
It would be awesome if the world could see Americans doing what this guy is doing (walking the talk).
metaltect 1 year ago
"are you angry at the bank?"..."not really because I'm fine" hahahaaa go silver, go silver, it's ya birthday, go silver:)
mlndstream 1 year ago 2
it would be nice if the title or description explained more about the video so more ppl could find it ..... thanx to umhalil for sharing this with me....
detroitjeeper 1 year ago
@detroitjeeper
Pay it forward - favorite it, Facebook it, Twitter it ... get the word out!
r3volution 2012!!
Robert697 1 year ago 3
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LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@Robert697 Yep this needs to go viral... it explains the basics of a sound monetary system and the problems with the current system. It also demonstrates how to peacefully revolt against the system... and provides a counter image to the propaganda that media is now pushing to get the public behind a war with Iran (ie. not all muslims are backward and need the US to bring 'freedom' to them). Viva la revolution!
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq
Que VIVA!!!
Robert697 1 year ago
But what's wrong with the Judeo-Marxist dollar?
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 2
@LibertaerUeberAlles
It's easy to print dollars with linen and ink. It takes a lot of work to mine for gold and silver. Those who counterfeit dollars (especially the Federal Reserve) are ripping people off without having to put sweat into the earth, or picking people's pocket. And now that the Banksters own Washington, they don't fear getting caught.
Each time they mint more money, you KNOW they're buying gold, silver and real estate for themselves. They are prepared for the USD crash.
Robert697 1 year ago 2
@umhalil
You mean YEHUDEE, yes I have heard this. Indeed they may name a country after their name, BUT lack any honor or prestige. Palestine would not be a issue if the PROSTITUTE SAUDI HOUSE did not sell them to the zionists & Judas the OTTOMANS. They call this part of ASIA middle east which is COLONIAL PUPPET name.
But these Muslims are a inspiration to all.
Fear not Father ASIA is healing, the sons of Asia are rising.
The tigers & dragons r coming to roost.
TheBENGALHANNIBAL 1 year ago
Real human innovation and problem resolution is a joy to behold!! This is happening in the U.S. now too, more and more local currency. It's totally legal to make local money it's just not considered and can't be called "legal tender" which means a bank can't accept it. Like we care. Alternative money sytems are sprouting too rapidly now for them to control. It's just under the wire... for now.
professormaxtrinity 1 year ago
Simple ..right ? Only in America is the dollar revered. Ignorance knows no bounds I suppose. For those who know the truth they will protect their wealth. Those who do not will have their hands out to the government.
Great vid ! Love the Max ~
RenegadeTimes 1 year ago
Absolutely no documentation on this video. Who uploaded this? Could you please edit it better next time (just the part about the title would be nice) and maybe let us know where you found it? If for no other reason than to give the owner credit for their work. Shoddy upload, excellent video.
drutter 1 year ago
@3:20
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL A PRINTING PRESS!!!
soundgarden21 1 year ago
Americans Never had to Worry before- We're Not Educated in Gold or Silver - Better Be Quick Learners and Protect Your Savings Now.
thedanesaregreat 1 year ago
For those who would like to know more about daily implementation of gold dinar and silver dirham please visit Wakala Induk Nusantara's website
KTSanggaBuana 1 year ago 2
Ya..now do we see the real reason the US seems so against Islam?
Journeywithinn 1 year ago 35
@Journeywithinn lol no
chroNick546 1 year ago
@Journeywithinn No I don't, What is it?
frack136 1 year ago
@frack136 You're blind mate
Zutaiola 1 year ago
@Zutaiola Oh I see now, The US doesn't want to go back to a currency system based on gold, probably because gold based currency systems have repeatedly failed throughout history, and that's why 'the US seems so against Islam?'(sic) Is that correct?
frack136 1 year ago
@frack136 So quote "gold based currency systems have repeatedly failed throughout history" Could you tell us when that happened? Wich and when those currency sistems failed?
Zutaiola 1 year ago
@Zutaiola Ionians, Athenians, Romans, Venetians, Spanish, British ...
Take a look at galmarley (DOT) com/framesets/fs_monetary_history_faqs.htm
The video ' Gold Dinar, Silver Dirham' was filmed in Indonesia and illustrates what happens when a currency becomes unstable, In the late 90's these same people were selling their rupiah for dollars, now the dollar has had it they're buying gold, the reverse of Gresham's Law.
frack136 1 year ago
@frack136 So all those civilizations/empires collapsed because they use gold as currency??? You have a very curious interpretation of History my friend, and dangerously simple. The only reason we have not a gold based economy today is because EEUU president Nikson economic measures,the so call NIKSON SHOCK .You should take a look at it too my friend.
Zutaiola 1 year ago
@Zutaiola 'So all those civilizations/empires collapsed because they? use gold as currency???' - No that was not what I said, what I did actually ask you was 'Is that correct?' of my observation of the comments posted by Journeywithin after you called me blind, you seem to agreed with Journeywithins comment however you have failed to answer my original question and are now talking about Nixon.
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frack136 1 year ago
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frack136 1 year ago
@Zutaiola My original statement was actually incorrect, and should have said all gold coin currency's have failed, as using gold as currency is what this video is advocating.
frack136 1 year ago
@Journeywithinn ,Yeah right!
Zutaiola 1 year ago
@Journeywithinn
Its not the US. She is run by the FED which is a private bank appuratus. The US people gain ZERO by going out and fighting wars so the Banks can loan her paper money, and then force her to pay back in Real money with interest. The US is an enforcement and intimidation tool of the banks and Trans-national corporations. And not even half as powerful as paper money. Take away Fake money, and the ability to wage unjust war is gone. It is the first & most important battlefront.
MeCallCrazy 1 year ago
@Journeywithinn The real reasons US is against islam is because of their relentless push toward world domination by means of terror and fear mongering. Beheadings, raping, burnings, destructiveness. Problem is we don't fear them here in America, we see it for what is really is. Nothing more than low IQ bullies with knives. Well, I've got a weapon too and i'm more than happy to "share". LOL!
Zalahblue 1 year ago
@Zalahblue
Really With over 1.2 Billion Muslims in the world... If their intention was to kill everyone else off... they just need to kill 10 people per Muslim... then eliminate everyone else... So in over 1400years they havent... why?
faceclutch 1 year ago
Your really asking me this question? Because the world outnumbers Muslims? 7 Billion on the Earth and only 1.2 Billion Muslims? Also, here in America, we have our weapons. Mexico, Switzerland, Haiti, Guatemala, Yemen, Japan and other Nations, citizens carry weapons legally. All Nations are not as easy to conquer as you would wish. This has go to be one of the stupidest self edifying questions I've ever been asked. Glad to hear the Christians are fighting back in Egypt! Bravo!
Zalahblue 1 year ago
@Zalahblue
Yemen is Muslim... just FYI
In over 1400 years how come there still are Christian in Egypt?... & Jews in Iran??? If the Muslims are as blood-thirsty as you say... how come they havent been massacred (like many minorities in Europe & America - i.e Jews in Spain, Natives in America)
Muslims must the worst exterminators of minorities??!?
faceclutch 1 year ago 13
@Zalahblue
You wrote "The real reasons US is against islam is because of their relentless push toward world domination by means of terror and fear mongering. "
HAhahahahHAHAHAhahhaahahha ...a real stereotypical redneck worldview. TV works wonders.
Well before the US sends thousands of paid murderers to attack people in other countries , they wage a propaganda war on their own children, turning them into psychotic blood thirsty murderous cowards who will serve the state when needed.
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul It has failed to impress me the name calling, labeling that muslims use. What's next?
Fears not working, name calling is not working, what is your next move? I'm not surprised by your actions, just proves you low mentality. Pity there is no count of the number of Lives saved from islamic slaughters.
Do u have a better excuse for the continual drive into other Nations? Muslims are oil hungry. Proof? 01-16-2011 A.D. - Lebanon Hezbollah Spoiling for Israel? /watch?v=qCq74z-f4eY
Zalahblue 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul Don't see Americans in such a way.I'm European and I know a lot of Americans, they are nice and tired of war.Ask yoursef who rules US (NOT Obama... he's only a puppet ), and you will see who push Americans to loose their life against thier own interests. Americans are like too-grown kids: easy to manipulate. EU is surely more ancient in this, even if we too are giving up against treacherous serpents.
evadidio 1 year ago
@evadidio
You see the name americans covers a wide range of people living in that area. Many of them don't support their "rulers" and know the state is nothing but a legal mafia, those aren't the "americans" I'm talking about if you can even call them that.
The americans I'm referring to are the statists who back the wars and concept that they need to be managed by government like cattle. The ones who blindly follow any new legislation or regulation passed. They deserve all my condemnation.
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul
The "americans" want to have pride in their blood soaked flag, while at the same time avoid and deny criticism for their blatant intrusion and violence upon the world. They want their cake and to eat it too.
They wish to wave a flag and be worshiped as heroes by a starry eyed world, while at the same time funding foreign dictators, smothering out innocent lives and imprisoning all who reject the system.
How "nice" can citizens truly be when they support a system such as this?
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul A lot of true Americans are understanding who does the politics in thier country, And, as you say, those 'behind the scene' treat the people like cattle. The day before Christmas 150 war veterans were arrested in front of the White House while they were demonstrating against war in Afghanisthan. They were enjailed, and this begins to happens quite often in US.The truth is: there are parasites among Americans as there were in URSS and now in Europe.People need to awaken.
evadidio 1 year ago
@Iseeyoursoul Don't see Americans in such a way.I'm European and I know a lot of Americans, they are nice and tired of war.Ask yourself who rules US (NOT Obama... he's only a puppet ), and you will see who pushes Americans to loose their life against thier own interests. Americans are like too-grown kids: easy to manipulate. EU is surely more ancient in this, even if we too are giving up against treacherous serpents.
evadidio 1 year ago
@Zalahblue
So why did 55bn go missing on US accounts in Afghanistan, because the terrorirsts were funded by americans. You are here for the oil, simple. And 9/11 and 7/7 in UK combined total casualties were less than 6000. Americans killed over 1million Iraqi civilians. Tell me. Who are the terrorists?
HouseOfZafar 1 month ago
@HouseOfZafar full of shit. 1 Million Iraqis have not been killed by US Military. Military is gone now and the bombings go on, 63 killed yesturday by Islamic Terrorists. #TwirlONIT
Zalahblue 1 month ago
@Zalahblue And look at the way the muslims in iraq are portrayed on TV, shouting, screaming, crying, when their children have been blown in half. WHere as the dead american soldiers are shown with the utmost respect, and in a dignified manner. So many innocent killed in iraq, and I see no accountability. Families, people from my family, just disappeared into thin smoke, from air strikes. Never heard of again. Imagine if that happen in the US on that scale. Over 1million.
HouseOfZafar 1 month ago
@HouseOfZafar LOL! Yeah, poor pitiful Muslims who strap bombs around their own children, or how about the mothers and fathers who use themselves as suicide bombs? Yeah, poor pitiful innocent muslims? NEVER. Muslims are Never Innocent, never forgiven and never trusted. N.E.V.E.R.
Zalahblue 1 month ago
@Zalahblue
So somehow over a million muslims are ALL criminals? Face the facts, the only reason theWest invaded the middle east, is for oil. And they don't mind killing millions for it. You believe in christianity right?(from looking at your picture). Where in the bible does it say you can kill millions of people who are innocent. I know there are those who strap bombs, blow up etc. But there's far more that are just innocent. I'm a muslim, are you telling me I'm not innocent?
HouseOfZafar 1 month ago
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@Zalahblue
So somehow over a million muslims are ALL criminals? Face the facts, the only reason theWest invaded the middle east, is for oil. And they don't mind killing millions for it. You believe in christianity right?(from looking at your picture). Where in the bible does it say you can kill millions of people who are innocent. I know there are those who strap bombs, blow up etc. But there's far more that are just innocent. I'm a muslim, are you telling me I'm not innocent?
HouseOfZafar 1 month ago
@Journeywithinn I don't think so darling.I think to interests in oil of some corporativists as Rockefeller.Because having a silver or gold currency is not enough to 'threat' the capitalism.Exemple:I have to go from Germany to China to buy for 150.000 euros of export products.I can't go there with a luggage full of silver coin.And due to huge industrial use of silver, there isn't enough for a permanent currency in metal.And you know back in the Middle Age it's impossible to return.
evadidio 1 year ago
100% Awesome!! If only the bonehead Americans would wake up!! Trade all of your worthless federal reserve notes for SILVER and GOLD now and reap the same freedom!!
speedyshipper 1 year ago 8
this is why the jews hate muslims
buceriasbo 1 year ago 15
WOW! No wonder the christians hate the muslim the 'west' hates the 'east'. Its hard to like people that are smarter then the conventional wisdom (status quo, stupidity, retardation, establishment)
motorolarules 1 year ago 7
@motorolarules
People are people no matter where you go. If you travel all around the globe, you will find a friend staring back at you in almost every human, just like in your home town. And no, the west does not hate the east, just like the east does not hate the west.
utubehayter 1 year ago 2
@utubehayter I understand and agree with you. I have traveled the world and know this to be true. My comment was sarcassism at best based on the observations of ignorance at least.
motorolarules 1 year ago
@motorolarules
hehe... it is too good subtle for my clumsy reading.
utubehayter 1 year ago
good for them.
it would be great if we could see more of that around the world
unfortunately circulating gold and silver coins gets you arrested in the "land of the free"... lol
zppz 1 year ago 5
Amen and amen!
rappjunk 1 year ago
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes.
Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
- Napoléon Bonaparte
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks."
- Lord Acton
Tressco 1 year ago 19
Islamofascist or,why the banksters hate Islam? International Banking Cartel must be perturbed by such movements.
pjmyou 1 year ago
The Roman system collapsed becuase they could not afford the empire anymore. The military and social welfare were costing more than they could bring in taxes. Even though their monetary system was based on gold and silver they began to debase the currency by putting less and less silver and gold in their coins. I believe the went as low as 5% of precious metal content in their coin at the end. The Romans suffered severe inflation from this debasement and eventual collapse.
buffteethr 1 year ago 4
The Roman system was based on gold and silver, yet it collapsed. Wasn't the collapse in some way caused by the amount of metal money in circulation being curtailed?
560e 1 year ago
That chow mein looks yummy!
goodsz24 1 year ago 3
I wonder how the people got the system to agree to give them gold for their paper money? Seems like that was the key part of the new arrangement.
linktalz 1 year ago
Any idea who is the indonesia guy who speak english in this video????
ZANCORP 1 year ago
two goats for ounce of gold? come on, I buy goat at action; last time we bought 4 goats for $300
sov19871987 1 year ago
@sov19871987 Sounds like they got ripped off paying $1200 for 2 lol.
a012345 1 year ago
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MrMohammedr9 1 year ago
@sov19871987
This Indonesian Dinar does not contain 1 ounce of gold. As of Feb.26 its gold content was equivalent to $153 US dollars, so that's $306 for 2 goats.
jburtonca 1 year ago
@jburtonca
Hang on.. that is USD 153 for two goats.. not 306.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter Yeah..What was I thinking.
jburtonca 1 year ago
@sov19871987 well then its the truth 1usd = rp 10.000, 300 usd = rp 3.000.000, thats 2 dirham for 4 goats, since 1 dirham = rp. 1.500.000
wan7680 1 year ago
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MrMohammedr9 1 year ago
@sov19871987 1 dinar is 4.25 gram gold, its not 1 ounce of gold that is 31.1 gram gold!
MrMohammedr9 1 year ago
@MrMohammedr9 Hence they got ripped off paying 1200 for 2 dinar.
a012345 1 year ago
It's great when he rips the paper note in half. Soooo true! The "value" disappears, as neither half is acceptable on its own (ie. each half doesn't become half the denomination). Try doing that with your friends $100 bill. Show him how he doesn't end up with two $50 pieces of paper he can spend separately. Chop any PM coin in half... you get two equally valid pieces of wealth that still can be exchanged for goods.
rightsideofhistory 1 year ago
Where can I see the rest?
BackBurnerNews 1 year ago
It's unfortunate that here in America, the response to this video would be similiar to a "deer in headlights", vs a "light going off" about how were all being ripped off, or allowing the fruits of our labor to be devalued due to banking shenanigens
duanescot 1 year ago
excellent vid. thx for posting.
lindabebe835 1 year ago
@ 2:54 Its the truth. investing in gold and silver will give you a real sense of freedom. And then you will see the real value of paper money,,,,, worthless.
rllang01 1 year ago
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davincij15 1 year ago
For all of the people who want to return to a gold standard, what shall we do with the existing debt we have? We borrowed paper money, do we want to pay back gold? Debt must be destroyed first before any move to a hard currency can be made. If you think you have no debt, you are deceiving yourself. The gov has borrowed on you and your family's behalf.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 Since all treasury notes are debt based, to pay back the debt would require the collection of all dollars in circulation. And then there is the interest on that debt, but they never print dollars to pay the interest. So, A debt that cant be repaid, wont be repaid
We never had the right to sell the labor & wealth of our children anyway.
rllang01 1 year ago
@rllang01 That is not entirely true, some of our money is simply printed into existence, it's called monetizing the debt. None of this actually answers the question, it simply points out more problems. How do we deal with the existing debt? Do all creditors just get screwed or do the debtors get screwed, or do we all get screwed but just a little less (partial repayment)?
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 The screwing has been going on for a very long time. Read what Andrew Jackson said when the bankers were going to blame him for a bad economic situation that the bankers themselves created. The screwing is going to take place anyways, might as well get it over with and start over with something with a strong foundation rather than that of sand. All paper currencies will eventually return to their real intrinsic value which is zero.
nomoreserfs 1 year ago
@christo930 All of our money is printed ( into ) existence. every single last federal reserve note that is in circulation today was created by the issuance of treasury bills, notes & bonds (ie) debt instruments.
If you want to pay off the debt, then you must take every last single federal reserve note ( out of ) existence.
Want to pay 1/2 of the debt, then you must remove 1/2 of the currency,
The people that are screwed are the ones holding paper dollars & treasury bills, notes and bonds.
rllang01 1 year ago
@rllang01 It really comes down as simple as that brother. Great post.
nomoreserfs 1 year ago
@christo930 well thats where WW3 comes in, it will be just like WW2, the entire world will be up for grabs more or less, with the winner taking all the spoils, if its the US, we'll get to do a "start over", if its China for instance, they will simply own us and everything we believe we "own".. interesting days to come for sure!!
duanescot 1 year ago
@christo930 I say print up United States notes that are interest free, pay the banksters off and return to constitutional money. Leave the banksters with worthless paper. Put forth another amendment in the Constitution banning a central bank once and for all. I understand that I am living in a dream world, but this would get us out of the clutches of the banksters once and for all. Great post, just thought I would share my solution with you.
nomoreserfs 1 year ago
@christo930 Yes, the slate would have to be made clean in order to start over. Which is why it becomes a very serious national security issue. The world has forgiven Haiti's debt (in full) due to their earthquake hardships. Maybe America needs California to have the "big one" (2012 movie style), or worse, in order to wash it's debt clean. Slinking out of the debt will have the globe wanting trillions in hard assets in lieu. So they keep the current system going onwards as long as possible...
rightsideofhistory 1 year ago
@rightsideofhistory Slate clean? Are you willing to start with zero and nothing? You can volunteer first.
a012345 1 year ago
@a012345 Volunteer? Sure! I'd LOVE to hit the big red button of clean slate. Ahhhh...but see, I'm not in a position of zero and nothing. I own my house, my car, everything in it, and lots and lots of physical gold and silver stashed away. The country could financially collapse and start over, and I'm all good here on my property. If only the other 99.9% of citizens were in my position, we wouldn't even be having this discussion about the state of our phony wealth and currency.
rightsideofhistory 1 year ago
@rightsideofhistory No, in order to have a clean slate, you included should start at zero. It's only fair. Sorry but you don't get to keep your wealth while everyone else starts at zero. It's no different than their "I am good so fuck everyone else" attitude. You seriously think if everything collapse, people would still honor your "property"? I am glad 99.9% of people are not like you with such childish thinking.
a012345 1 year ago
@a012345 I won't get into teaching you about money or bankruptcy... but you need to go research how a default works. If a country defaults, it's those in debt that get reset. Everything else that is free & clear, brick & mortar, physically remains. If the actual debt in the USA is $100,000+ on every head of every citizen, like I said before, I've got it, and am willing to forfeit for the greater good. It's not a "fuck everyone else" attitude. I'm just prepared. Don't hate me for it.
rightsideofhistory 1 year ago
@rightsideofhistory You can't teach me cuz you have no clue. You're willing for other people to suffer while you have your own skin intact. That is exactly the fuck everyone else attitude. Even if a country defaults, the creditors still negotiate repayments but might take pennies on the dollar. You're willing to forfeit? What are you forfeiting by keeping everything while everyone else loses. Seriously, people like you are just assholes looking out for themselves. No different from the bankers.
a012345 1 year ago