The purpose of the experiment is to create an efficient motor using permanent magnets.
The battery charging is just a method to drain off harmful back EMF pulses and re-use that energy.
In fact, this setup does not even do a good job of recharging that battery. Other people who have built these say it does a good job, and can even bring back dead batteries.
"The purpose of the experiment is to create an efficient motor using permanent magnets."
General Electric already has very efficient motors using permanent magnets. Using a pulse (1) wastes energy and (2) drastically reduces torque under load. Why make an inferior motor?
The laws of physics show "pulse motors" are grossly inefficient, and they get worse as the load on them are increased. Did you talk with an engineer? If so you would know this.
Yes, pulse motors cannot take heavy loads or even moderate ones. The reason is due to the power-to-weight ratio: for a pulse motor to be able to perform a heavy work load it must be very large, which wastes energy. That is why humanity does not use pulse motors: they are extremely wasteful.
"The reason is due to the power-to-weight ratio: for a pulse motor to be able to perform a heavy work load it must be very large, which wastes energy."
This is more of a fixed cost issue than a variable cost issue. In other words, what you say (and I agree) is that power output is low yet construction cost of motor is extremely high. So it is not a mystery why most motors do not use pulses. The advantage they may have is really low heat to output power ratios, but not much other than that!
"I am an engineer, and yes, I know what I was taught. I still like to see how coil design and other variables affect the efficiency."
If you were really an engineer you would know that all you need do is use standardized formulas to see how variations effect efficiency: you do not need to actually build a device.
Wow, you're right Narco! What an ass I've been! Instead of wasting time doing experiments on things I enjoy, I could have been playing Wii bowling or downloading porn!
I'll never play with science again, for sure you betcha.
"And I just found it interesting that I could get 4000 rpm from just over 1 watt."
The air molecules from my breath probably spin faster than that. Wow, wee, doo!
Get a heavy load to move around. Solid state devices are not worth squat if they don't do any mechanical work or improve efficiency of doing so. We care about thrust, and your machine has very little.
It does not matter what "other people's claims" are: it only matters what physicists say on the matter.
By the way, pulse motors are extremely inefficient: that is why the world runs on brush motors, not pulse motors. If pulse motors were a good idea we would all be using them and would have been using them for over 100 years.
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limerufus05 3 years ago
Why not just use a standard battery charger?
Desertphile 3 years ago 3
The purpose of the experiment is to create an efficient motor using permanent magnets.
The battery charging is just a method to drain off harmful back EMF pulses and re-use that energy.
In fact, this setup does not even do a good job of recharging that battery. Other people who have built these say it does a good job, and can even bring back dead batteries.
bmass520 3 years ago
"The purpose of the experiment is to create an efficient motor using permanent magnets."
General Electric already has very efficient motors using permanent magnets. Using a pulse (1) wastes energy and (2) drastically reduces torque under load. Why make an inferior motor?
Desertphile 3 years ago 4
It's called research. I'm creating experiments to confirm or rebuff other people's claims on magnetic properties.
I'm not convinced (yet) that pulse driven motors are less efficient. Pulsing has some neat properties when tuned properly.
But I'm listening, if you have light to shed on the subject.
bmass520 3 years ago
The laws of physics show "pulse motors" are grossly inefficient, and they get worse as the load on them are increased. Did you talk with an engineer? If so you would know this.
Desertphile 3 years ago 4
Yes, pulse motors cannot take heavy loads or even moderate ones. The reason is due to the power-to-weight ratio: for a pulse motor to be able to perform a heavy work load it must be very large, which wastes energy. That is why humanity does not use pulse motors: they are extremely wasteful.
TribelessWarrior 3 years ago 3
"The reason is due to the power-to-weight ratio: for a pulse motor to be able to perform a heavy work load it must be very large, which wastes energy."
This is more of a fixed cost issue than a variable cost issue. In other words, what you say (and I agree) is that power output is low yet construction cost of motor is extremely high. So it is not a mystery why most motors do not use pulses. The advantage they may have is really low heat to output power ratios, but not much other than that!
kmarinas86 3 years ago
I am an engineer, and yes, I know what I was taught. I still like to see how coil design and other variables affect the efficiency.
And despite the low torque of pulse motors, they don't suck more current with additional load like brush motors. That's worth something.
And I just found it interesting that I could get 4000 rpm from just over 1 watt.
All I'm doing is playing around with toys on my workbench. I didn't say I was re-inventing the motor. Give me a break, dude.
bmass520 3 years ago
"I am an engineer, and yes, I know what I was taught. I still like to see how coil design and other variables affect the efficiency."
If you were really an engineer you would know that all you need do is use standardized formulas to see how variations effect efficiency: you do not need to actually build a device.
NarcononVictim 3 years ago
Wow, you're right Narco! What an ass I've been! Instead of wasting time doing experiments on things I enjoy, I could have been playing Wii bowling or downloading porn!
I'll never play with science again, for sure you betcha.
bmass520 3 years ago
"And I just found it interesting that I could get 4000 rpm from just over 1 watt."
The air molecules from my breath probably spin faster than that. Wow, wee, doo!
Get a heavy load to move around. Solid state devices are not worth squat if they don't do any mechanical work or improve efficiency of doing so. We care about thrust, and your machine has very little.
Time to evolve.
kmarinas86 3 years ago
It does not matter what "other people's claims" are: it only matters what physicists say on the matter.
By the way, pulse motors are extremely inefficient: that is why the world runs on brush motors, not pulse motors. If pulse motors were a good idea we would all be using them and would have been using them for over 100 years.
TribelessWarrior 3 years ago 4