I have a small problem with a point you made. I question if the defeat of death itself can be truly inevitable as long as there exists a general philosophical acceptance of initiatory violence that is economically incentivized to fight against progress and a general philosophical acceptance of irrationality that must fight scientific and/or philosophical progress to survive. I think that ending both will be a prerequisite of achieving human functional immortality.
@Shezmu I agree that the incentives to resist progress are certainly there, but it is still possible to sneak progress in -- even in societies that exhibit highly irrational tendencies. Especially as many of the advances that will eventually contribute to indefinite life will come in incremental steps, to which most people would be unable to object, the overall goal will be reachable before most humans accept rationality philosophically.
@Shezmu Indeed, I think that the attainment of indefinite longevity will be a major catalyst for the increase in rationality in the world, as many people gain a longer-term perspective and a greater appreciation for the value of life.
There is, of course, the question of *when* this will happen. There can be sufficient attitudinal and institutional resistance to the idea to delay its implementation by years or even decades -- but this resistance can also be overcome with enough hard work.
This is really frustrating. The nullification of my consciousness scares me a load, and I don't get why everyone is so okay with it. Existence is literally everything to me, to have it all disappear underneath me and have my entire personality voided is horrifying, the fact that I won't know afterwards isn't comforting, it's my whole problem with it. I won't know anything ever again!
I also am afraid of the concept of dying and not being remembered... I feel like I want to leave a legacy... Well that can be done. But can the aging process be defeated?
All they left behind pales in comparison with what existed in their minds and is irretrievably lost. What did Galileo do on January 16, 1601? What did he think? What were his hopes, ambitions, and frustrations? We do not know and will never know.
You only say this because you are not yet senescent, decaying, and in horrid pain. You have not yet lost your faculties of youth, and you only think of death and aging abstractly. Your current vantage point may reconcile you intellectually with the *idea* of death, but not with the actual *fact* of death. In 30 to 40 years, I suspect you will think differently.
You assume a little too much. How about we just live for now, and let tomorrow shape up for itself. If it hurts, well it won't be the first time brother.
I don't think any life, not even a baby born still, is ever "wasted".
That stillborn, for instance, has forever effected his parents, just like every one of us, in every action we undertake, effects those around us, causing others to remember us and imitate our actions. And all of this is passed on from generation to generation, thus making us images of our antecedents in every way we act.
Death IS natural--and, furthermore, something I suspect we unconsciously want.
Imagine the horror of finding the key to overcoming death before you find the key to overcoming suffering? The only good thing that can be found in much of the world's suffering is that it is temporary.
To live in this world is to suffer. Only once we are dead will we fully realize what this all really was. Children and newborns and unborn will leave this dimension pure of soul. When we die we lose our mind and body but our soul lives on.
Religion is an illusion created by the illusion of life to control and contain you once your soul leaves this dimension to keep you from truly enjoying "LIFE" and not just life in the 3rd dimension strolling through the 4th.
You really inlightened me. I thought that I was having a good time in this world. I realize now that all my good feelings were secret signs I was suffering because to live in this world is to suffer, right? Also, please tell me more about these dimension traveling souls.
Death (the cessation of life processes) is necessary and just as much a part of a human life as Birth and therefore natural. Given all evidence at hand (history) all living things wear out and return to the basic elements from which they came. Were this not the case the world would have ceased to be able to support life long ago. Immortality of the individual may very well be a living hell of unknown horrors. The only "immortality" the human race has any claim to is that of the species.
There is a undersea creature that matures and returns to a 'baby' stage over and over. There is another tube plant/creature on the ocean floor that are thought to be biologically immortal.
Singularity here we come!
mana2432 4 months ago
I love your videos! You should be an actuary!
Zeppelingirl101 9 months ago
I have a small problem with a point you made. I question if the defeat of death itself can be truly inevitable as long as there exists a general philosophical acceptance of initiatory violence that is economically incentivized to fight against progress and a general philosophical acceptance of irrationality that must fight scientific and/or philosophical progress to survive. I think that ending both will be a prerequisite of achieving human functional immortality.
Shezmu 1 year ago
@Shezmu I agree that the incentives to resist progress are certainly there, but it is still possible to sneak progress in -- even in societies that exhibit highly irrational tendencies. Especially as many of the advances that will eventually contribute to indefinite life will come in incremental steps, to which most people would be unable to object, the overall goal will be reachable before most humans accept rationality philosophically.
GStolyarovII 1 year ago
@Shezmu Indeed, I think that the attainment of indefinite longevity will be a major catalyst for the increase in rationality in the world, as many people gain a longer-term perspective and a greater appreciation for the value of life.
There is, of course, the question of *when* this will happen. There can be sufficient attitudinal and institutional resistance to the idea to delay its implementation by years or even decades -- but this resistance can also be overcome with enough hard work.
GStolyarovII 1 year ago
This is really frustrating. The nullification of my consciousness scares me a load, and I don't get why everyone is so okay with it. Existence is literally everything to me, to have it all disappear underneath me and have my entire personality voided is horrifying, the fact that I won't know afterwards isn't comforting, it's my whole problem with it. I won't know anything ever again!
This just depresses me so much.
TheUTubeRebel 2 years ago
@TheUTubeRebel My thoughts exactly. This greatest threat to our very being is a peril I hope humans will overcome within our lifetimes.
Thank you for your insightful comments and for watching my videos!
GStolyarovII 2 years ago
Yeahhhhhhhhhhh if we didnt die the world would eventually become over populated and this little perfect world you want could never happen.
smoley62 2 years ago
@smoley62 Please see Part 4 of this video series. It demonstrates why the claim you make regarding overpopulation is fallacious: v=ZaxT5AtUfcs
GStolyarovII 2 years ago
reality engines,with all due respect because something is natural doesnt mean its good,superb video!
rambo4337 2 years ago
Excellent point; thank you!
GStolyarovII 2 years ago
I also am afraid of the concept of dying and not being remembered... I feel like I want to leave a legacy... Well that can be done. But can the aging process be defeated?
SecularSaracen 2 years ago
and what do you mean people who have died have left nothing behind? They left everything behind.
livepsycle 3 years ago
All they left behind pales in comparison with what existed in their minds and is irretrievably lost. What did Galileo do on January 16, 1601? What did he think? What were his hopes, ambitions, and frustrations? We do not know and will never know.
GStolyarovII 3 years ago
What if I look forward to death. Is it terrible then? What if I enjoy the porcess of experiencing pain, of aging? Is it a tragedy then?
livepsycle 3 years ago
You only say this because you are not yet senescent, decaying, and in horrid pain. You have not yet lost your faculties of youth, and you only think of death and aging abstractly. Your current vantage point may reconcile you intellectually with the *idea* of death, but not with the actual *fact* of death. In 30 to 40 years, I suspect you will think differently.
GStolyarovII 3 years ago
You assume a little too much. How about we just live for now, and let tomorrow shape up for itself. If it hurts, well it won't be the first time brother.
livepsycle 3 years ago
I don't think any life, not even a baby born still, is ever "wasted".
That stillborn, for instance, has forever effected his parents, just like every one of us, in every action we undertake, effects those around us, causing others to remember us and imitate our actions. And all of this is passed on from generation to generation, thus making us images of our antecedents in every way we act.
Death IS natural--and, furthermore, something I suspect we unconsciously want.
skewed12 3 years ago
Imagine the horror of finding the key to overcoming death before you find the key to overcoming suffering? The only good thing that can be found in much of the world's suffering is that it is temporary.
RealityEngines 3 years ago
To live in this world is to suffer. Only once we are dead will we fully realize what this all really was. Children and newborns and unborn will leave this dimension pure of soul. When we die we lose our mind and body but our soul lives on.
Religion is an illusion created by the illusion of life to control and contain you once your soul leaves this dimension to keep you from truly enjoying "LIFE" and not just life in the 3rd dimension strolling through the 4th.
P07H34DJr 3 years ago
You really inlightened me. I thought that I was having a good time in this world. I realize now that all my good feelings were secret signs I was suffering because to live in this world is to suffer, right? Also, please tell me more about these dimension traveling souls.
apearsog00d 3 years ago
Death (the cessation of life processes) is necessary and just as much a part of a human life as Birth and therefore natural. Given all evidence at hand (history) all living things wear out and return to the basic elements from which they came. Were this not the case the world would have ceased to be able to support life long ago. Immortality of the individual may very well be a living hell of unknown horrors. The only "immortality" the human race has any claim to is that of the species.
RealityEngines 3 years ago
Not all living species die of ageing.
There is a undersea creature that matures and returns to a 'baby' stage over and over. There is another tube plant/creature on the ocean floor that are thought to be biologically immortal.
Jogeta5 2 years ago
You're talking about aging, yes?
w0r1dpeace 3 years ago
Yes.
GStolyarovII 3 years ago
Yes.
w0r1dpeace 3 years ago
Death is a moral and spiritual abomination -- a horror and evil beyond compare. It needs to be managed, controlled, overcome, and defeated.
PLCvideo 3 years ago 9
LOL
livepsycle 3 years ago