Why Don't The Police Do Something About All This?

[pimpmycnc]

You just should keep your tires between the curb and the yellow line. Get some practice dude ;-)

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@pimpmycnc haha so your a cop right! :-)

[ginganz13]

...because despite the handwringing about picking up body parts they actually, really, truly don't care. Paula Rose proves it every time she opens her mouth in support of the same old in-effectual bollocks. She's more interested in spin, status and a fat salary. Who would ignore peer reviewed, proven, working systems that save lives?

There is only 2 posiblities - Paula Rose is either a complete fucking idiot or a dangerous psychopath.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@ginganz13 The delightful Paula was on the TV a few months back, patting herself on the back when the high fuel prices lowered the road toll, as it did in many Countries, however, all road toll reductions in NZ are due to Paula's good work and have nothing to do with fuel prices, or the many new safely features that are becoming standard in most vehicles. Just wondering if she got a bonus for that!

[CJL102]

sidewalk right there

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@CJL102 That comment was very poorly thought out, there is not a footpath throughout the video, and even if there was, it is illegal to cycle on a footpath, as well as being a stupid thing to do due to the reasons that it was made illegal in the first place (and they say you can't make laws to cover stupidity, well they did here!) which are very obvious to most people.

[xxBlackpspxx]

u mad?

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@xxBlackpspxx o yes, fuming! :-)

[jamchenz]

I enjoy the videos you post and believe they do reflect a lot of poor driving, however by displaying uniquely identifiable material/information (Licence Plates) you may find yourself on the wrong side of perhaps not the law, but community guidelines as set by Youtube - Privacy Guidelines. Where are you sourcing your information from? has it been verified by the NZTA as legitimate and current, otherwise unless each allegation and breach of privacy is verified it could be perceived as slanderous.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@jamchenz Licence plates are legally required “uniquely identifiable material/information” historically put in place due to the need to be able to easily identify dangerous and illegal road users. There is no expectation of privacy in a public place (as I recently had to explain to an officer of the law!) TV stations remove (blur) this information out of courteously at times and I gave an example of a News feature of people legally parking in parent and child parking spaces, where plates wr shwn

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@jamchenz Sorry, I didn't tell you about my information source (I forgot after running out of space) the information is from CarJam (dot) co (dot) nz, carjam's source is naturally verified as I am sure they wouldn't would to slander vehicle owner

[jamchenz]

@TheVexatiousLitigant I visited CarJam, despite the clear warning to ignore expiry dates, unless one has purchased an account from the host of the website, I ran my own details and it would appear my vehicle has expired both warrant of fitness and licence, which is odd considering both are valid for another six months according to my vehicle displays and NZTA/VTNZ. Many of the people you have identified and made allegations against, may well be innocent... food for thought.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@jamchenz You need to register to get the free (3 per month) up to date information. All of my imformation is from current (at the time) reports. I tested how up to date CarJam was on my car once and the WOF was updated before the garage called (15 mins later) to tell me my car was ready. I was very impressed with how up to to date CarJam is. Register and update the report on your car!

[MATTNATTMATT]

at 0:53 where is the red car?

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MATTNATTMATT exactly! it is registered as red but it is purple, or the plates are on the wrong vehicle! there are lots of illegal vehicles like this on NZ's roads, sadly the Police can't spot them, but the public can!

[MATTNATTMATT]

What is WOF?

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MATTNATTMATT Warrant Of Fitness like an MOT only a lot easier to pass

[MATTNATTMATT]

@TheVexatiousLitigant Ah right, i dont think we have that where i live.

[MrPorhtnasim]

Wow that really sucks! Now that the video is one year old: any experience with more assertive positioning? Did you try to position yourself more towards the centre of the lane to force cars to change lanes? What happened? Goodness me: are you still alive?

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MrPorhtnasim I have some experience with more assertive positioning but it is all bad, the further out I ride the more motorists swerve in at me and the more the Police use it as an excuse for motorists coming too close to me. I get stuff thrown at me (very common in New Zealand) in the position I ride in now (average one per year) any further out and I am sure this would increase

[MrPorhtnasim]

@TheVexatiousLitigant Phew at least you're still alive! This reminds me of a quirky old professor in London who was renowned for cycling with a screwdriver in his right hand. He claimed that this gave the drivers the appropriate amount of respect as they feared for their paint. I am not sure that helps. However, there are statistics that show that accidents from too close overtaking are relatively rare. So while it can be quite scary it is less likely to harm you than a left hook or smidsy.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MrPorhtnasim Another reason why I don't "own" the lane, NZ has a big drink driving problem and sadly I have heard of a few cyclists hit from behind. For a driver to change lanes due to an assertive position, first they must see you, if they are drunk, drugged up, or texting, they may not. Also, a headcase (NZ has a small gene pool) may see it as an excuse, claiming you swerved out in-front of them, very hard to defend when you are dead!

[MrPorhtnasim]

@TheVexatiousLitigant I now checked your channel and found your lengthy battle with local police. I thought I'd check the statistics but couldn't find much. I couldn't find newer studies but both: Atkinson & Hurst (1982) and McCarthy & Gilbert (1996) (both in "Accident Analysis & Prevention") find that accidents during overtaking make up about 1/4 of fatal collisions. One argument you could also use is that close overtaking means that following traffic can only see you in the last second.

[MrPorhtnasim]

@TheVexatiousLitigant An interesting result about positioning you find on the last pages of preview(dot)tinyurl(dot)com/8p­tfsf At least if you are in dense traffic on a road with two or more lanes I would suggest you take primary position. Even if there are drunk drivers: the fact that drivers in front of them need to slow down and change lanes should raise their attention. Many drivers are merely ignorant. A friendly remark at the next traffic light often (but not always) helps. Good luck!

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MrPorhtnasim I have to agree that the more space I give myself from the gutter, the more space on average a passing motorist will give me. The problem is that when a stupid/arrogant motorist comes along they get angry and decide to teach me a lesson, this mindset seems very similar to what I experience a Henderson Police Station :-(

The standard of driving in NZ is very poor, even before they start drinking, I have ridden a lot in the UK where standards are bad, but still much better than in NZ

[romandybala]

Out of interest how do you know the details of the registration and insurance on these vehicles? Is it on a label or something? Or do you have access to department details? Wouldnt be allowed in Oz unless you were a cop.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@romandybala The infomation is free at carjam co nz, you get three free look ups per month, when I made this video they were unlimited, about 1 in 3 bad drivers have something illegal about their cars that can be found on a computer, no doubt many more if the Police where to check tyres etc....

[Cancerape]

you are kidding me, no insurance in NZ?.....I was thinking how much I would like to move from the UK to NZ and I know NZ has some bad areas but this kinda put me right off

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@Cancerape Yes, it is insane! It is not just on the roads, there is no personal liability insurance required by businesses, this is why NZ’s extreme and adventure sports are seen as so cheap by tourists, that is until they are injured if the fault lays with the vendor it is made very clear that the tourist is on their own, it doesn’t matter if you can prove the vendor is at fault, you will still be very lucky to get any compensation. Good luck with the extended hotel bill!

[CycleMan2200]

Ya know if you ride in the middle of that lane they won't buzz you so close like this. I suggest you at least try it for a couple of days and see how it works out. It works out good for me.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@CycleMan2200 No, they will hit you or throw stuff at you, and then Henderson Police will lose the file, and too many inattentive, drunk, drugged, texting, phone call making drivers to risk it! It is a good idea for countries with lower alcohol limits and were rules a codes of conduct are Policed and enforced, but every time I hear about a hit and run on a cyclist I know it is a bad idea for NZ’s roads.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@bodybait I hear what you are saying, but you need to experience NZ's drivers before considering doing that, there is a good chance all those illegal cars have illegal drivers in them too! There is also a good chance the cars are not even registered to them, they drive around tooled up for a confrontation, and can walk away as the worthless cars are unable to be traced to them.

[bodybait]

@TheVexatiousLitigant Your life.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@bodybait There are many cars on NZ’s roads that are unregistered, unwarranted (not fit for the road) and driven by unlicensed drivers. The worst offenders shown here were about a mile from the central West Auckland Police Station (Henderson), showing just how much respect the Police and the offenders have for the rule of law. Henderson Police will talk to you like shit even with video evidence. I have to consider this when thinking about a safe road position.

[bodybait]

@CycleMan2200 I agree more lane control.

[bodybait]

@CycleMan2200 nice to hear that worked out good :)

[jonredhornet]

I feel for you fella, and we think we have it bad over here!

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@jonredhornet I have noticed the drop in the standard of driving in the UK on the odd trip back there, New Zealand’s dangerous roads should be held up as a warning of how bad things could get if the Police continue to let standards fall. Be afraid, be very afraid!

[finbat]

Time for the police to get ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) this links into the central computer system and will check insurance etc. Police forces love it as it puts their detection and conviction rates up.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@finbat I think NZ Police have one car with this tech, no need to check for insurane here as you do not have to have it :-(

[MelloVEL0]

They do seem a bit inept at passing cyclists. I wonder what the test involves over there?

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@MelloVEL0 Holding a UK licence meant I didn’t have to take the practical, but the paper test was so easy it was a joke. You can buy actual test papers at Petrol Stations they were so funny I sent some to the UK, though seeing the drivers wiped the smile off my face. There are lots for people driving in NZ without licences so it is hard to say how much is due to the easy driving tests or the start age of 15!

[WheelyGoodFun]

1:30 to 1:40 is priceless. An overtake 20m from a turn-off. Nice overtake to follow as well. :(

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

@WheelyGoodFun I don't think you can see but the white car had L plates, Shocking tuition!