Gettysburg deleted scene 3 - Buford and Reynolds

[legian1978]

just wanna say thanks for the vid ive seen this show an gods an genrals tons of times my fav shows never saw these out takes befor

[borekfk1]

Gettysburg should be nominated for "Most Epic Facial Hair in Cinema History".

[animefareast]

If it wasn't for Beuford's stubborn defense on the 1st day, the union might have met total disaster and history would be different. Beuford deserves a long over-due Medal of Honor.

[MMSMikey]

Reynolds was a great general. and wasn't afraid to go head on with AP Hills corp even though the rebs had a 2-1 advantage in numbers on the 1st day. its a shame he was killed that day.

[MMSMikey]

not sure why this scene was cut out... i love it when Reynolds tells one of his aides to ride to general meade as fast as he can... that they will fight them inch by inch through the town...that actually happened. its amazing on blue ray. then when he tells Buford the first corp is coming up...11th right behind... great scene.

[hoosieryank1967]

"Joe, how can you see anything with those things on?"

[rjworks13]

I'll never understand directors. While not a pivotal scene, it adds scale dimension as the battle began to develop. I have no idea why this was left on the editing room floor.

[Artexerxes101]

Some of the soldiers have crossed rifles on their hats, which weren't adopted until 1875, but other than that, the movie was amazing.

[Artexerxes101]

@Artexerxes101 Nevermind, they're wearing crossed swords not rifles

[Shadowflyght]

pause at 00:14 - the look on bufords face is priceless.

[oldsreo]

He wasn't going to change the accent. He was playing a western soldier.

He also, From what I was told by fellow re-enactors, bought his own uniform because the one he was given didn't look right.

[oldsreo]

Buford spent time on the frontier. The west in those days.

He had an unusual accent from his birth probably.

That's where he learned to fight the way he did.

Elliott did go a bit too far but that's why he got the part.

Cavalry soldier.

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[SupernalOne]

a hell of a lot of good men died there -

[ke4bss]

This scene should have been kept in the movie. I think Gen. Renolds should have commanded the army of the Potamac, rather than Meade. I think he was more level headed and aggressive. He was not a Lincoln ass kisser, so he turned down the job.  Solid officer.

[spwb2k]

Raise your hand if u love this movie

& affectionately refer to it as Gettysbeard.

[stellalouise1]

Why does Sam Elliot have a southern accent when Tom Beringer continues to twang nasily against his best efforts? As a southerner, I can't help but hear the yankee accent clearly in Beringer and none in Elliot's speech. I still thought they did well and loved them movie - can't help but pick on them a bit. Can I go so far as to say that Elliot is great because he sounds so SOUTHERN? :-)

[rob9641]

@stellalouise1 Ellliott is a westerner, Berenger is from Chicago.  Elliott was doing closer to his own accent (Buford was from Kentucky). Curious thing about this film - we had Jeff Daniels (from Georgia) and C Tom Howell (California) doing Maine; Kevin Conway (NYC) doing Ireland; and Martin Sheen (Ohio) and Richard Jordan and Stephen Lang (both from NYC) all doing Virginia. Elliott was the only one doing anywhere near his own accent.

[chippewaman1975]

@rob9641 Jeff Daniels is actually a Michigan native I believe.

[rob9641]

@chippewaman1975 born in Georgia, raised in Michigan - I think he still lives in Michigan

[hoosieryank1967]

@stellalouise1 Because Buford was a Kentuckian by birth IIRC.

[aptivaboy]

Buford was a Kentuckian. I tend to believe that makes Elliot's accent potentially closer to the real thing. It sounds about right to me, given who he was portraying. a little bit of supporting trivia: Buford and Confederate General Jubal Early were fourth cousins, so sounding "southern" is probably about right for Sam Elliot as General Buford.

[bigblondman1]

@stellalouise1 sam elliot being from out west, originally adapted to a southern accent well. plus his character gen. buford was from kentucky. most men in kentucky served with the union. the state remained in the union. also men from eastern tennesee went to kentucky to join union regiments. about 70% fought for the union 30% confederate. later eatern tennesee formed union regiments. and a western tennesee cavalry regiment the 13th, switched sides.

[MMSMikey]

When renyolds rides up and the music comes on its almost impossible not to get a little choked up.

[Setebos]

At 1:09, Reynolds comments: "There's liable to be a fair-sized dispute here today." If he actually said that then he gets my vote for Understatement of the War.

[rouseg7]

Well done Sam. Whiskers like that dont grow on trees!

[rob9641]

@rouseg7 Someone in town at the time said Sam's moustache got there two weeks before he did.

[MMSMikey]

But what they did do was hold on long enough for other units of the army (2nd, 3rd, 5th and 12th Corps) to take positions of Culps Hill, Cemetery Hill and Cemetery Ridge, creating the famous "fish hook" If it wasn't for The 1st and 11th and Bufords Cavalry fighting for every inch of ground as they retreated... who knows what would have happened.

[MMSMikey]

Buford and Reynolds were 2 of the Union Heros at Gettysburg. Buford gets the credit of selecting the ground where the Union army was going to hold. But Reynolds knew how fragile Bufords hold on mcpherson ridge was. Right when Bufords Cavalry was about to be over run, Reynolds Bascially threw the entire 1st Corps into the fight, stunning the Rebels. Giving time for the 11th Corps to come up as well. Even with the 1st and 11th Corps In the fight. They simply could'nt hold on all day.

[koxiesarmy]

Bravo rob9641! like e veryone else I watched these and thought "Damn, I know the movie pretty well and I don't remember these scenes." One of the movies I watch whenever it's on. Thank you.

[rob9641]

@koxiesarmy - You're welcome.

[imperatorcaesar100]

it is a tragedy that Major General Reynolds was killed early in the battle. he seemed to eb a good officer, and capable of tactics, and strategy as a good officer needs to use.

[deerhunter59ify]

You would of thought that Hollywood could of paid for more dirt on the cement sidewalk at :32 and :33. The movie is great though!

[rob9641]

@deerhunter59ify It's not sidewalk. It's brick.

[paracel72]

thanks for these great clips

[warlaker]

Those 2 generals didn't mess around, did they? Great leadership, and they shouldda kept the scene.

[demeandr121]

Damn! How lucky am I? I'm named after General Reynolds! :)

[Collinfan94]

Maybe we should all email Ted Turner to show the interest in a full restored version of the film. I can easily sit through 6 hours-over and over and over!

[Shafeone]

When Meade down in Taneytown was told that there was fighting in gettysburg but that Reynolds planned on fighting inch by inch, blockading the streets if necessary until supposrts arrived, Meade said: "Good! That is just like Reynolds!" A shame he had to die so soon. But he left the battlefield at Gettysburg as his legacy. The nation owes him a debt of gratitude.

[Andyb2820]

Just wanted to say thanks for these as well...I thought I was crazy, I always remembered the scene in Gettysburg with Buford, as well as the scene with Lee and Maj. Taylor on the farm, before the battle starts. I watched the VHS version and saw those scenes, and I own the dvd and always wondered why I "remember scenes" that are not in the movie. It takes me back to when I was 13 or so watching the VHS haha...Thanks again!!

[rob9641]

@Andyb2820 - You're welcome - HEY TED TURNER - ARE YOU READING THESE??? 150 IS COMING UP!! FULL RESTORED VERSION! FULL RESTORED VERSION! FULL RESTORED VERSION!

[billykid84]

@rob9641 If Ted Turner were reading the comments, he'd probably insist that YouTube take your videos down for copyright infringement (hee-hee)...

Just kidding, thanks for putting these up. I must have bought the "NON-deluxe" version DVD, because mine doesn't have any deleted scenes...

[Florhusband]

Buford was both a heroic and tragic figure. He was responsible for much of the Federal strategy that really carried the day for the Union at Gettysburg (going so far as to select the terrain his forces would hold), yet only a short time later came down with typhoid fever. Only on his deathbed was he to receive his commission as general.

[rob9641]

@Florhusband - He became a MAJOR general on his deathbed. He was already a brigadier general. Elliot made a good Buford, don't you think?

[Florhusband]

@rob9641 Indeed, Elliot did Buford really well. Sorry about the mistake.

[RyNettleton]

@rob9641 I think Elliott made an outstanding General Buford. General Buford was known as a soldier's soldier and Elliott knew that as well as being one of the unsung heroes of the American Civil War. He felt obligated to portray General Buford for the man that he was and the legend he became. My hat's off to you, Sam.

[hoosieryank1967]

@rob9641 Sam Elliot didn't care for theuniform he was given, felt it wasn't dirsty/dusty enough. So he went out and bought his own, made it dusty anddirty. How's that for dedication?

[rob9641]

@hoosieryank1967 Sam brought his A+ game. Everybody in town loved him. Something about the place, the project, made everybody in the film want to go above and beyond.

[dannyv2468va2]

@Florhusband He was a great commander. It is a shame that he was largely forgotten after the war. If he had lived, he would have commanded all the Federal cavalry.

[Florhusband]

@dannyv2468va2 He was such an able commander, he should have been appointed as such. After all, he did choose the terrain in which his forces fought, and won his part of the battle, an important one without doubt. Sun Tzu did advocate for commanders to choose the terrain carefully, and whether or not Buford read The Art of War, his leadership was the right thing at the right time.

[mwduck]

@Florhusband

Elliott was THE BEST

[rjworks13]

Sam Elliot is such a a great actor, and a hing pin as Buford in this story. There was no reason to cut these scenes in my opinion. Then again, I love everything about this movie. It is the closest we'll ever come in understanding what really happened at Gettysburg, and get a feeling for what it must have been like.

[ratricide]

rob9641 - thank you sir for putting all these scenes in. Really appreciate the effort. Cheers

[rob9641]

@ratricide - my pleasure

[Orbitguy5]

I didn't like this scene much, I'm glad they deleted it. For one thing the conversation and acting seems very out of place.. All they do is say they're happy to see eachother like five times. I agree with the director on this one, once is enough.

[Guderian41]

Damn shame Reynolds got killed when he did.

[SWPrrFanA1]

A great scene! Too bad it was deleted.

[joeluv64]

must see

[joeluv64]

A must see

[3mate1]

I always thought that Reynolds didn't have enough of a part in the theatrical release... I mean he just shows up and then he dies in a montage sequence... but they have this big scene where everybody stops in the middle of the battle and stares after he dies. Not a proportionate reaction to a characters death that the audience is completely un introduced to. This really shows a little more of the relationship between Buford and Reynolds. Should have left it in and cut out something else.

[bobwaters]

The best general the Union had- maybe the one who could have matched Lee. Lincoln offered him the command of the Army of the Potomac before the battle. He declined unless given a free hand, which of course is the one thing no president can give a general. So Meade got the call instead. If Reynolds had been in command, he would have survived- and the Union probably would have counterattacked after Pickett's Charge failed. The war in the East could have ended right there.

[Zeeboe]

Thank goodness for Buford & all the Union heroes of the Civil War. If it was not for them, who knows what may have happened, and how messed up the world might be.

[mbabist01]

Too bad one of the corps placed was O.O. Howard's, consisting mostly of Germans. "I fights mit Siegal, I runs mit Howard!" Krauts contributed to near damn-yank defeat on the first day. I guess Krauts are only brave against unarmed civilians!

[rob9641]

Take the racism elsewhere, please. It's not cute, especially in a discussion about a war where racism was so central and cost 600,000 people their lives.

[edavismookie25]

Amen.

[edavismookie25]

What I want to see is a film about the other Union Corps. No disrespect to the 5th corps but outside of Little Round Top the 5th corps really didn't suffer the casualties as did other corps. Nor did it bear any brunt of the rebel attack. The corps that I would like to see a restored version should be about the 11th corps, 3rd corps, and 12th corps. I would have included the 1st corps but since Reynolds and the Iron Brigade recieved some "air time" it is just being fair. Especially, to the 12th

[edavismookie25]

Maybe you should first do research on Howard's 11th corps before you criticize. Howard was not the greatest general in the Union Army and he allowed Francis Barlow (one of his division commanders) to move ahead of the rest of the 11th corps thus opening up a gap that rebel troops were able to pour through. Barlow believe that the higher ground that would come to bear his name (Barlow's Knoll) presented a ideal commanding feature he as well as Union Genera 3rd Corps Daniel Sickels would make the

[mbabist01]

I HAVE, good God, I've GOT 1,000 books on the CIVIL WAR and have read every one! Where do you THINK that QUOTE came from?

[edavismookie25]

same mistake. Was the 3rd corps to blame or were they just following orders? Was the 11th corps to blame. Their commanders made bad decisions that cost many men their lives and after Gettysburg 1st, 3rd, and 11th corps (which suffered the most casualties) no longer existed. They were consolidated with other units.

[Shafeone]

The fight put up by 1st and 11th were like night and day. The 1st held out all day first on McPhersons then Seminary Ridge. The Iron Brigade's stand was a true epic. The 11th however, undermanned and hopelessly deployed on flat open ground against almost 2:1 numbers stood nochance and were routed within an hour. Howard misrepresented that Doubelday's command gave way first and the latter was reduced back to divi. command in favor of John Newton from VI corps. Doubeday fought well that day.

[Zeeboe]

Good scene!

[Stalin111]

strange, most of these "deleted" scenes are on my european 2-DVD-set here.

[rob9641]

2013 is the 150th anniversay of the battle and 20th anniversary of the film. We're all keeping our fingers crossed across the pond for a restored version to come out for the anniversaries.

[Stalin111]

@rob9641

Indeed, it is a beautiful film. About one thing I have always wondered though: were there no grenadiers in the Union- or Confederate army? Sorely one or two old-fashioned iron grenades thrown in the hostile lines would be quite effective.

[rebel2276]

Both sides used grenades mostly defending forts. The range of the rifles expanded big time and it would have been suicidal to carry a grenade and try to get within 50 yards and under.

[Stalin111]

@rebel2276

Well, they still line up within under 50 meters. But as far as i can see, this war is a transition. The weapons are advanced, the tactics are not. Its like the whole concept of warfare was not able to adapt to the weaponry. Especially the last part of the war is fascinating, the emerge of trench warfare, the prelude to world war one, the siege of Petersburg.

[rebel2276]

I agree with you 110%. Just like now, we learn tactics from our last war. The Mexican war and Napoleons battles were taught at West Point.

Lee bulked at least 150 cannons and pounded the 2nd Corps at Gettysburg and then three divisions were to break through. The artillery barrage failed and hence the attack failed.

Many artillery battery commanders complained about the fuses and being issued the wrong caliber ammo. A 3inch rifled piece does not take 2.9 ammo.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving!

[DKetch1966]

I wish they would have kept this scene in final movie. Awesome scene with great interaction between Buford and Reynolds. Also explains and sets up the upcoming fight on the first day. Reynolds was probably very aggresive that day because 1). he had the "Iron Brigade" (those black hat boys) about to engage who were known as tough and experienced fighters 2). he was fighting on and protecting Pennsylvania, his home state and his home town was not far from the battle. He commanded corps and wing

[MisterGage77]

true, in the final cut the just show reynolds as "the guy who rides on screen, then dies a few minutes later"

[JohnTex9]

Lee had the same percentage of casulties at Malvern Hill and Pickett's Charge as Grant did at Cold Harbor . One of the great myths of the ACW,

[tatorstevie]

I always cry when Reynolds gets there

[edavismookie25]

Reynolds was perhaps the best commander and certainly the most aggressive the Union Army had in the East.

[bobwaters]

LIncoln offered him command of the Army of the Potomac before he offered it to Meade. Reynolds turned him down because he wanted a free hand. If he'd accepted, and had been in overall command at Gettysburg, the war in the East might have ended with that battle. Reynolds would have pursued Lee.

[Andyb2820]

@bobwaters While I can agree on the fact that Reynolds was the first "choice," I have to believe the outcome would have been similar. Lets not forget, the Union also suffered 20,000+ casualties, they were in no shape to go on the offensive, into Virginia, right after Gettysburg.

[dougalmac54]

@bobwaters General Reynolds was my relative on my grandmother's side of the family. He was one of the few Union commanders who had any success at Fredericksburg. You're right about Lincoln offering Reynolds full command of the Army of the Potomac. Gov. Andrew Curtain of PA personally picked Reynolds to train the Pennsylvania Militia, who were formed to protect PA one most of it's men left to form combat brigades at the beginning of the war. He was a West Point grad, Class of 1840.

[UNCfan102]

I don't understand why they deleted this. It always confused me how they seemed to jump into battle without planning anything. It lets you meet Reynolds a bit more also so it doesn't seem like he just appeared and immediantly gets killed.

[fead1]

best scene in the movie adds depth should not have been deleted reynolds and buford rule sam elliot at his best

[Rorynster]

In my opinion the best is General Hancock.

[GorinRedspear]

they had a lot of good generals. i don't know why they only put idiots (Burnside), way to cautious men (McLellan) or butchers (Grant) in the lead position. Victory is no achievement when you can outnumber the enemy bullets with your men

[rob9641]

War is not a contest to see who has the best achievement. War is not a fair fight. War is for winning or losing, and if you have more and better men and equipment than your enemy, you use it. Grant was no bigger butcher than anybody else in a war - Lee threw a whole lot of men into the meat grinder at Pickett's charge. That's what war is, a monstrous meat grinder used to achieve a political end which may or may not be wise or noble.

[GorinRedspear]

granted, but the generals who made the greater names for themselves through history, were the ones who managed to find a smaller grinder. Lee made one charge where he knew a lot of men would die; Grant did little else then that

[westlock]

Generals like McClellan spent 2 years trying to find a smaller grinder, and almost lost the war in the process. Grant recognized that, unlike his opponents in the west, Lee could not be outmaneuvered. If the Union was to be preserved, attrition warfare was unavoidable. When Lee and Longstreet learned that Grant was being made general-in-chief, they knew what was coming, and that a Republican defeat in the 1864 election was the Confederacy's only hope for survival.

[shastabasket]

Why did the cut this? this was great

[bookkeeper57]

Reynolds at this point commanded the Iron Brigade.

[Sedated90]

no he commanded the I corp at gettysburg, and the iron brigade was one of the brigades in that corp.

[Jubilo1]

At 1:15 --- good advice to all reenactors. Please remove your spectacles.

[MaryToddLincoln65]

That was a line in the book. The man's glasses were really muddy, that's why.

[guyman117]

I think Reynolds needed more screne time to voise his character before he died.

[supertrouper2]

Why in the name of time did they delete this? This was a very good scene in my opinion.

[gw7709]

they shouldve kept this scene, it actually made reynolds into a charasmatic officer. without this it kind of made him look like a stiff ass with no likable traits

[sureshot649]

if reynolds had lived, the rest of the battle would have never been in question.

[hCHASEs87]

thats a rather wild assumption. Thas like sayin "well if Jackson had never been shot!".

[edavismookie25]

You are absolutely right! John Reynolds is my favorite civil war general. He was offered command of the Army of the Potomac twice by Lincoln but he respectfully turned him down because he loved his 1st Corps. Meade put him in charge of the entire left wing of the Union Army at Gettysburg. Had he lived I am sure he would have whipped Lee. He was one of the very few eastern union generals that actually has success against Lee. Unlike a lot of the high command he stayed on the front line with his

[DKetch1966]

Ed, I thought it was Hooker who put Reynolds in charge of wing versus Meade...(?) I may be worng.

[edavismookie25]

men. How the military has changed! His 18,000 men pushed Lee's 27,000 back on the first day but because he was killed the Army lost a dynamic and energetic field commander who personally led his men in battle. That is what I love about the militaries of the past. The commanders lives were not valued above their own men. Even with 18,000 men on hand Reynolds leadership and aggressiveness caused Lee to "sweat a little" this had not happened to often in the east theatre.

[abrondarbit]

buford is so awesome,,,,why does he disappear after the first fight? was he just not involved after the first bit of fighting.

[rob9641]

His troops were pretty beat up on the first day, so he was not involved in the fighting after that.

[hartshornguy]

his troops acutally were disengaged and pointed to guard the supply line. as we know it was custers who was pointed to shield confederate cavalary from doing much damage.

[lengthyounarther]

where can you get the entire move with the deleted scenes, I've only seen it on TV.

[rob9641]

It's only on VHS, the Collector's Edition that comes with the CD of the music, a book of artwork and a bullet. Try ebay or amazon - that's the only place you'll find it.

[MilesStipek]

i bought my DVD of Gettysburg in 2002... and my version doesn't have "deleted scenes"

thanks for uploading these!

[rob9641]

Of the whole movie? Heck, no, it's nearly 5 hours long and youtube wouldn't like it. At the beginning and end of the deleted scenes, I let it run extra so you can sit where it fits in with the scenes that are on the DVD.

[sparta25789]

ive seen lord of the rings on you tube with every thing on it and you tube dosent care

[Vicente2782]

so did i with city of god ^^

by the way - great scene

[mwduck]

Is Sam Elliot a great actor, or what? Check out the 1976 miniseries, "Once an Eagle" based on the Myrer book. Outstanding. G'burg did John Buford in. He took leave and was dead before 1863 was over.

[pandaphil]

I would so love to see the 5-hour version someday.

I'm hoping with the anniversary just a couple years away that hey'll release the extended version from the Collectors Edition on dvd/blu-ray somday. God forbid TNT skipped one of their monthly showings of LotR's and rebroadcast the extended cut.

[sparta25789]

can you post the extend version that be great !!!=)

[drakulman]

me too, thanks you, great movie

[GettysburgGhost1863]

Thank you for posting this, I've never seen these before.