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  • @02Blackbeard My apologies for my earlier, insulting comments. They were un-Masonic, and I was wrong to have made them. As a member of the Craft, I should have known and conducted myself better.

    My apologies to my Brethren, as well. I'm sorry I let you down.

  • @richcapo LOL...I was just about to say the same thing dude. Funny how everyone has feet of clay. Scratch the fucker in the right place and he will start to scream blue murder. I've had the same response from people of all sects. It doesn't worry me. Don't worry about letting people down dude, so much as letting yourself down.

    I used to know a Bishop who said "I don't swear"...lol. But swearing and cussing in some is more holy than praying and preaching in others.

    Chill out dude.

  • 02Blackbear messages to me PART FOUR:

    "Granted, but Masons still try to hide what they can. The net has been great in exposing false cults at the click of a button.

    Your publications omit certain things...why? Grips and passwords etc. Thankfully they have been supplied by ex-Masons.

    The RC Church tried to keep the Bible from the people before the Reformation and the printing press. Same with masonic stuff till we foiled your plan."

  • @02Blackbeard I thought you might be interested in the Decalogue that Pike lays out for all Masons. It is long, so it will be quote in multiple posts.

    PART ONE

    Masonry has its decalogue, which is a law to its Initiates. These are its Ten

    Commandments:

    I. God is the Eternal, Omnipotent, Immutable WISDOM and Supreme INTELLIGENCE

    and Exhaustless Love.

    Thou shalt adore, revere, and love Him !

    Thou shalt honour Him by practising the virtues!

  • PART TWO

    II. Thy religion shall be, to do good because it is a pleasure to thee, and not merely

    because it is a duty.

    That thou mayest become the friend of the wise man, thou shalt obey his precepts !

    Thy soul is immortal ! Thou shalt do nothing to degrade it !

    III. Thou shalt unceasingly war against vice!

    Thou shalt not do unto others that which thou wouldst not wish them to do unto thee !

    Thou shalt be submissive to thy fortunes, and keep burning the light of wisdom !

  • PART THREE

    IV. Thou shalt honour thy parents !

    Thou shalt pay respect and homage to the aged!

    Thou shalt instruct the young!

    Thou shalt protect and defend infancy and innocence !

    V. Thou shalt cherish thy wife and thy children!

    Thou shalt love thy country, and obey its laws!

    VI. Thy friend shall be to thee a second self !

    Misfortune shall not estrange thee from him !

    Thou shalt do for his memory whatever thou wouldst do for him, if he were living!

  • PART FOUR

    VI. Thy friend shall be to thee a second self !

    Misfortune shall not estrange thee from him !

    Thou shalt do for his memory whatever thou wouldst do for him, if he were living!

    VII. Thou shalt avoid and flee from insincere friendships !

    Thou shalt in everything refrain from excess.

    Thou shalt fear to be the cause of a stain on thy memory!

  • PART FIVE

    VIII. Thou shalt allow no passions to become thy master !

    Thou shalt make the passions of others profitable lessons to thyself!

    Thou shalt be indulgent to error !

    IX. Thou shalt hear much: Thou shalt speak little: Thou shalt act well !

    Thou shalt forget injuries!

    Thou shalt render good for evil !

    Thou shalt not misuse either thy strength or thy superiority !

  • PART SIX

    But the great commandment of Masonry is this: "A new commandment give I unto you: that ye love one another! He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, remaineth still in the darkness."

    Such are the moral duties of a Mason.

  • PART SEVEN

    But it is also the duty of Masonry to assist in elevating the moral and intellectual level of society; in coining knowledge, bringing ideas into circulation, and causing the mind of youth to grow; and in putting, gradually, by the teachings of axioms and the promulgation of positive laws, the human race in harmony with its destinies.

  • PART EIGHT

    To this duty and work the Initiate is apprenticed. He must not imagine that he can effect nothing, and, therefore, despairing, become inert. It is in this, as in a man's daily life. Many great deeds are done in the small struggles of life. There is, we are told, a determined though unseen bravery, which defends itself, foot to foot, in the darkness, against the fatal invasion of necessity and of baseness.

  • PART NINE

    There are noble and mysterious triumphs, which no eye sees, which no renown rewards, which no flourish of trumpets salutes. Life, misfortune, isolation, abandonment, poverty, are battle-fields, which have their heroes,--heroes obscure, but sometimes greater than those who become illustrious. The Mason should struggle in the same manner, and with the same bravery, against those invasions of necessity and baseness, which come to nations as well as to men.

  • PART TEN

    He should meet them, too, foot to foot, even in the darkness, and protest against the national wrongs and follies; against usurpation and the first inroads of that hydra, Tyranny. There is no more sovereign eloquence than the truth in indignation. It is more difficult for a people to keep than to gain their freedom. The Protests of Truth are always needed. Continually, the right must protest against the fact. There is, in fact, Eternity in the Right.

  • PART ELEVEN

    The Mason should be the Priest and Soldier of that Right. If his country should be robbed of her liberties, he should still not despair. The protest of the Right against the Fact persists forever. The robbery of a people never becomes prescriptive. Reclamation of its rights is barred by no length of time. Warsaw can no more be Tartar than Venice can be Teutonic.

  • PART TWELVE

    A people may endure military usurpation, and subjugated States kneel to

    States and wear the yoke, while under the stress of necessity; but when the necessity disappears, if the people is fit to be free, the submerged country will float to the surface and reappear, and Tyranny be adjudged by History to have murdered its victims.

    Whatever occurs, we should have Faith in the Justice and overruling Wisdom of God, and Hope for the Future, and Lovingkindness for those who are in error.

  • PART THIRTEEN

    God makes visible to men His will in events; an obscure text, written in a mysterious language. Men make their translations of it forthwith, hasty, incorrect, full of faults, omissions, and misreadings. We see so short a way along the arc of the great circle! Few minds comprehend the Divine tongue.

  • PART 14

    From each translation, a party is born; and from each misreading, a faction. Each party believes or pretends that it has the only true text, and each faction believes or pretends that it alone possesses the light. Moreover, factions are blind men, who aim straight, errors are excellent projectiles,striking skillfully, and with all the violence that springs from false reasoning, wherever a want of logic in those who defend the right, like a defect in a cuirass, makes them vulnerable.

  • PART 15

    Therefore it is that we shall often be discomfited in combating error before the people. Antaeus long resisted Hercules; and the heads of the Hydra grew as fast as they were cut off. It is absurd to say that Error, wounded, writhes in pain, and dies amid her worshippers. Truth conquers slowly.

  • PART 16

    There is a wondrous vitality in Error. Truth, indeed, for the most part, shoots over the heads of the masses; or if an error is prostrated for a moment, it is up again in a moment, and as vigorous as ever. It will not die when the brains are out, and the most stupid and irrational errors are the longest-lived.

    Nevertheless, Masonry, which is Morality and Philosophy, must not cease to do its duty.

  • PART 17

    We never know at what moment success awaits our efforts--generally when most

    unexpected--nor with what effect our efforts are or are not to be attended. Succeed or fail, Masonry must not bow to error, or succumb under discouragement. There were at Rome a few Carthaginian soldiers, taken prisoners, who refused to bow to Flaminius,and had a little of Hannibal's magnanimity. Masons should possess an equal greatness of soul.

  • PART 18

    Masonry should be an energy; finding its aim and effect in the amelioration of

    mankind. Socrates should enter into Adam, and produce Marcus Aurelius, in other

    words, bring forth from the man of enjoyments, the man of wisdom. Masonry should not be a mere watch-tower, built upon mystery, from which to gaze at ease upon the world, with no other result than to be a convenience for the curious.

  • PART 19

    Morality is Faith in full bloom. Contemplation should lead to action, and the absolute be practical; the ideal be made air and food and drink to the human mind. Wisdom is a sacred communion. It is only on that condition that it ceases to be a sterile love of Science, and becomes the one and supreme method by which to unite Humanity and arouse it to concerted action. Then Philosophy becomes Religion.

  • PART 20

    And Masonry, like History and Philosophy, has eternal duties-- eternal, and, at the same time, simple--to oppose Caiaphas as Bishop, Draco or Jefferies as Judge, Trimalcion as Legislator, and Tiberius as Emperor. These are the symbols of the tyranny that degrades and crushes, and the corruption that defiles and infests. In the works published for the use of the Craft we are told that the three great tenets of a Mason's profession, are Brotherly Love, Relief, and Truth.

  • PART 21

    And it is true that a Brotherly affection and kindness should govern us in all our intercourse and relations with our brethren; and a generous and liberal philanthropy actuate us in regard to all men. To relieve the distressed is

    peculiarly the duty of Masons--a sacred duty, not to be omitted, neglected, or coldly or inefficiently complied with. It is also most true, that Truth is a Divine attribute and the foundation of every virtue. 

  • PART 22

    To be true, and to seek to find and learn the Truth, are the great objects of every good Mason.

    * * * * *

    How could you possibly find anything evil in that?

  • PART FIVE B

    X. Thou shalt study to know men; that thereby thou mayest learn to know thyself !

    Thou shalt ever seek after virtue !

    Thou shalt be just!

    Thou shalt avoid idleness !

  • @richcapo So obviously for Pike God is not the tyrant OT Jehovah, tribal deity of the Jews. He is a philosophic God.

  • @02Blackbeard Incidentally here is what Pike has to say about Masons and the spirit of evil:

    PART ONE

    To every Mason, the Infinite justice and Benevolence of God give ample

    assurance that Evil will ultimately be dethroned, and the Good, the True,

    and the Beautiful reign triumphant and eternal. It teaches, as it feels and

    knows, that Evil, and Pain, and Sorrow exist as part of a wise and

    beneficent plan, all the parts of which work together under God's eye to a

    result which shall be perfection.

  • PART TWO

    Whether the existence of evil is rightly

    explained in this creed or in that, by Typhon the Great Serpent, by

    Ahriman and his Armies of Wicked Spirits, by the Giants and Titans that

    war against Heaven, by the two co-existent Principles of Good and Evil,

    by Satan's temptation and the fall of Man, by Lok and the Serpent Fenris,

    it is beyond the domain of Masonry to decide, nor does it need to inquire.

  • PART THREE

    Nor is it within its Province to determine how the ultimate triumph of Light

    and Truth and Good, over Darkness and Error and Evil, is to be achieved;

    nor whether the Redeemer, looked and longed for by all nations, hath

    appeared in Judea, or is yet to come.

  • PART FOUR

    It reverences all the great reformers. It sees in Moses, the Lawgiver of the

    Jews, in Confucius and Zoroaster, in Jesus of Nazareth, and in the

    Arabian Iconoclast, Great Teachers of Morality, and Eminent Reformers, if

    no more: and allows every brother of the Order to assign to each such

    higher and even Divine Character as his Creed and Truth require.

  • PART FIVE

    Thus Masonry disbelieves no truth, and teaches unbelief in no creed,

    except so far as such creed may lower its lofty estimate of the Deity,

    degrade Him to the level of the passions of humanity, deny the high

    destiny of man, impugn the goodness and benevolence of the Supreme

    God, strike at those great columns of Masonry, Faith, Hope, and Charity,

    or inculcate immorality, and disregard of the active duties of the Order.

    Masonry is a worship;

  • PART SIX

    but one in which all civilized men can unite; for it

    does not undertake to explain or dogmatically to settle those great

    mysteries, that are above the feeble comprehension of our human

    intellect. It trusts in God, and HOPES; it BELIEVES, like a child, and is

    humble. It draws no sword to compel others to adopt its belief, or to be

    happy with its hopes. Arid it WAITS with patience to understand the

    mysteries of Nature and Nature's God hereafter.

  • PART SEVEN

    The greatest mysteries in the Universe are those which are ever going on

    around us; so trite and common to us that we never note them nor reflect

    upon them. Wise men tell us of the laws that regulate the motions of the

    spheres, which, flashing in huge circles and spinning on their axes, are

    also ever darting with inconceivable rapidity through the infinities of

    Space;

  • PART EIGHT

    while we atoms sit here, and dream that all was made for us. They

    tell us learnedly of centripetal and centrifugal forces, gravity and

    attraction, and all the other sounding terms invented to hide a want of

    meaning. There are other forces in the Universe than those that are

    mechanical.

    * * * * *

    Should I go on? I'd be happy to, especially regarding Pike and Satan.

  • @richcapo Yes, you have just proved that Pike was a Universalist...thanks :)

  • @02Blackbeard For the sake of argument, I'll take that as read. So what? I have also just proven that he didn't worship the powers of evil, but professed a faith in God and a moral system that is congruent with that of Judaeo-Christianity. Do you deny that?

    Do you deny the high ethics of his Decalogue and such? Do you find moral fault of it or proof that Pike allied himself to the Devil or whatever one wishes to call the embodiment of evil?

  • @richcapo I never said that Pike did worship the powers of evil. he held that normative belief in God would take you so far, but that the true initiates would be aware that the theology of the vast majority was to some extent erroneous.

    Your problem is that you align with normative bog-standard Christianity, (are you RC), and you see Lucifer as Satan and the Devil. it is only the Church which has made of Lucifer, Satan and the Devil a single being.

  • @02Blackbeard You have claimed over and again that Pike worshiped Lucifer.

    "Your problem is that you align with normative bog-standard Christianity, (are you RC),"

    No.  I am a non-denominational Freemason, and I believe that the Bible, like all religious texts, is a work of fiction.

    "it is only the Church which has made of Lucifer, Satan and the Devil a single being."

    I don't believe in theml. Pike did, however, and whatever one wishes to call the Devil -- Pike despised him.

  • @richcapo I have not claimed AT ALL that Pike worshiped Lucifer. Theosophical and Classical Luciferian gnostics do not WORSHIP Lucifer. I have already stated that Pike held Lucifer to be a Principle, not a Person.

    Lucifer = Light-bearer.

    Satan = Adversary.

    Devil = Deceiver. not the same.

    Pike would not have been averse to the principles of classical Gnostic Luciferianism. Period.

    Even the text by Taxil was in the spirit of Pike if not from Pike himself.

  • @richcapo Seems quite agnostic on the subject of evil etc. He even thinks a form of dualism may carry some weight.

    You can't claim that Pike was a Conformist, Creedal Christian...NO WAY.

  • @02Blackbeard "Agnostic on the subject of evil"? Read his commandments to the Masons, read his obligations he sets for to us, and his call to ameliorate are the nasty, cruel, evil things that beset men. He calls for us to never stop fighting to make a better world. There's nothing agnostic about that--that's a philosophy of objective goodness, rooted in Judaeo-Christian values, the Masonic belief in the Fatherhood of God, the Brotherhood of Man, good men's sacred duty, and so on.

  • @richcapo No, no, no dude...."rooted in Judeo-Christian values" my ass. He is rooted in Universal ethically enlightened values. OK, some Jews and Christians hold to those values, but so do some Hindus and Buddhists. There is nothing specifically Christian about those values.

    I meant that he is agnostic about the ultimate explanation of evil. As was Steiner. See the vid Rudolf Steiner and Evil. Youtube.

  • @02Blackbeard Those values are rooted in The Ten Commandments. Do they share commonalities with other religions? Sure, many things in many religions do. So what's your point?

    "I meant that he is agnostic about the ultimate explanation of evil."

    I don't see how you can say that after all I that I have quoted here. What is your explanation of evil, and how does it differ from what Pike writes on evil?

    And pl. address all the other points of mine that you are running from.

  • @richcapo You are an idiot who obviously is still at the superficial level in Freemasonry. You have made no further points which I have failed to address. You have simply put up a series of quotes without comment.

    Keep with the Craft Lodge Bros. and enjoy your meals etc. You are possibly not cut out for greater things.

  • @02Blackbeard Taking your toys and running away, I see.

  • @richcapo No, not at all.

    I have a good book for you by Eugene Halliday. "In Defence of the Devil". Google, read and get back to me.

  • @richcapo "The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft.........

  • @02Blackbeard....... The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare." [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree.

  • @02Blackbeard Correct, and what a beautiful sentiment: to beat one's weapons into plowshares. To use the powers of Lucifer for good.

    Also, if Lucifer is Jesus, shouldn't you love what Hall has to say here? And by the way, Hall wrote that years before he became a Mason. You are aware of that, yes?

  • @richcapo Yes, so if that can be done then we really prove that Lucifer has many positive potentials. He (it) is not simply a force for bad. Lucifer is ambiguous.

    neither God nor Lucifer exist as concrete persons. They are dramatis personae in an allegory (story).

    Do you not think that Pike was aware of this?

    Only fundamentalists believe that God and Satan are actual beings who exist up there, out there. You should know this.

    Qupte from "Secret Teaching of all Ages", Hall.

  • @02Blackbeard "Only fundamentalists believe that God and Satan are actual beings who exist up there, out there. You should know this."

    I know many people, and was once was such a person, who believed in such a thing, but were (was) never fundamentalist.

    Incidentally, what is the point of all you're writing here? You made accusations about Pike; I've proven them wrong. So what are you on about now and why?

    What is your problem with Pike?

  • @richcapo You proved nothing other than that you are a fag ass Masonic twat. Actually, I fucking hate Freemasons. You are a load of cunts who swear oaths to keep secrets for each other and to promote each other whether your cause is just or not. Everyone knows that the Lodge is full of criminals. Google Kenny Noye and his bent Masonic copper friends.

    I have no problem with Pike other than he was a Freemason and a racist.

    A fundamentalist is someone who believes in skydaddy you dickweed.

  • @02Blackbeard You know nothing about Lucifer mate and little about Pike. Taxil fucked the RC Church up the ass, but he also fucked you people soundly up the ass while he was at it. I think he did the world a service in a round about way.

    Now don't you have some ritual to go learn?

  • @02Blackbeard You've resorted to homophobic ranting and profanity -- the last resort of the man who has been proven to be wrong. You have also proven yourself to be devoted to evil by spreading lies and hateful words. You are an occultist dedicated to serving the cosmic embodiment of evil and you will burn for eternity for turning away from the light. You are a blight on the world and have been exposed as an apostle of the Devil.

  • @02Blackbeard "A fundamentalist is someone who believes in skydaddy you dickweed."

    You've filled up my page with demands that I turn to your "skydaddy" Jesus, so please don't be a hypocrite. Turn away from evil. Find God, find humanism, find kind atheism -- I don't care, but repenteth ye of thine infernal ways anon!

  • @02Blackbeard "neither God nor Lucifer exist as concrete persons. They are dramatis personae in an allegory (story).

    Do you not think that Pike was aware of this?"

    Pike believed in and worshiped God; believed in and despised Lucifer. It's right there in Morals and Dogma on page 320, as I have quoted and told you many, many times now.

    So again: What is your problem with Pike?

  • @richcapo Are you fucking retarded boy....God is not a fucking object like a glorious gigantic man in the sky. You can worship by alignment with certain values you idiot. Now if you don't mind I'm going to look for someone a little more intelligent than you are. Your retardation is starting to tire me. Goodbye.

  • @02Blackbeard O! Woe to he who is lost in the muck of lies and foul artifice. Woe to he who debases himself with deceit and quote cutting. Woe to he who lieth in and with the filth of the evil one. Woe to he who haseth noeth ideaeth of whateth he speaketh on. Woe to he who resorteth to "fag" jokeths. Woe to he who runneth with his toys back to the breast of his mother Satan. Woe to you servent of Baphomet!

  • @02Blackbeard "Now if you don't mind I'm going to look for someone a little more intelligent than you are. Your retardation is starting to tire me. Goodbye."

    I'm sure I'll be seeing you around these parts soon, friend.

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  • @richcapo No, I don't do men dude. I prefer the sweet smell of pussy, but this is off-topic. I will leave all the homo-etoticism to you Mason-men. I guess all the time some of you spend in the Lodge just invites your wives to take a lover.

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  • @02Blackbeard "Keep with the Craft Lodge Bros. and enjoy your meals etc."

    Craft, Royal Arch, Cryptic, and Templar, my friend. Also lecturing before the DC Masonic community on March 1st at Washington-Potomac No. 8, RAM. It's open to the public. Want to come?

    "Keep with the Craft Lodge Bros. and enjoy your meals etc. You are possibly not cut out for greater things."

    And you are? Like what? Being homophobic and hateful to those who don't share your fundamentalist Christian views?

  • @richcapo Dude, I hope you do your research for these lectures. more than you do to debate people on youtube.

    Homophobic? No, I have gay friends, though I don't believe that homosexuality is the dynamic equivalent of hetero.

    My fundamentalist Christian views? Hardly. I am more a supporter of gnostic Luciferianism than Christian (or any) fundamentalism. It is some of you Masons who are fundie Christians.

    My job is to get you Masons to ADMITT that Masonry is Luciferian. Taxil was right.

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  • @02Blackbeard

    If by dualism you mean Pike's first commandment, then, sure:

    "I. God is the Eternal, Omnipotent, Immutable WISDOM and Supreme INTELLIGENCE and Exhaustless Love.

    Thou shalt adore, revere, and love Him !

    Thou shalt honour Him by practising the virtues!"

  • Domenico Margiotta 33rd ...

    "Palladism is necessarily a luciferian rite. Its religion is neo-gnostism, teaching that the divinity is dual and that lucifer is equal of Adonay, with lucifer the God of Light and Goodness struggling for humanity against Adonay the God of darkness and Evil.. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled the dogmas of the high grades of all other masonries, for in no matter what rite, The Great architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by Christians"

  • 33rd degree Mason, Aurthur Edward Waite tells us that Albert Pike was called: "The Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" -Waite, An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and of Cognate Instituted Mysteries: Their Rites, Literature and History, Vol. II, pg. 253

    The passage, "That which we must say to the crowd is....", is found in Lady Queensborough, "Occult Theocracy", p220,221.

  • Albert Pike, page 567 of "Morals and Dogma", "To prevent the light from escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of 'knowledge of good and evil,' by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; and Angel of Light induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him into an act of Sensualism, that enfeebled him, and bound him anew in the bonds of matter."

  • @02Blackbeard If you had quoted this passage in its entirety, you'd see that Pike is describing what Manicheans believed and the reason WHY Jesus was sent to earth. Below and in subsequent posts I will quote it in its entirety so as to not mislead people as you have. You should be ashamed of yourself for do so. You do it all the time. Whatever happened to "Thou shall not lie"? CONTINUED

  • PART ONE

    Manes, founder of the Sect of the Manicheans, who had lived and been

    distinguished among the Persian Magi, profited by the doctrines of

    Scythianus, a Kabalist or Judaizing Gnostic of the times of the Apostles;

    and knowing those of Bardesanes and Harmonius, derived his doctrines

    from Zoroasterism, Christianity, and Gnosticism. He claimed to be the

    [Paraklêtos] or Comforter, in the Sense of a Teacher, organ of

    the Deity, but not in that of the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost: and

  • PART TWO

    and commenced

    his Epistola Fundamenti in these words: "Manes, Apostle of Jesus Christ,

    elect of God the Father; Behold the Words of Salvation, emanating from

    the living and eternal fountain." The dominant idea of his doctrine was

    Pantheism, derived by him from its source in the regions of India and on

    the confines of China: that the cause of all that exists is in God; and at

    last, God is all in all.

  • PART THREE

    All souls are equal - God is in all, in men, animals,

    and plants. There are two Gods, one of Good and the other of Evil, each

    independent, eternal, chief of a distinct Empire; necessarily, and of their

    very natures, hostile to one another. The Evil God, Satan, is the Genius of

    matter alone. The God of Good is infinitely his Superior, the True God;

    while the other is but the chief of all that is the Enemy of God, and must in

    the end succumb to His Power.

  • PART FIVE

    whose

    Power and Number it is impossible to determine. This is Spinoza's Infinity

    of Infinite Attributes of God. Twelve Chief Eons, at the head of all, were

    the Genii of the twelve Constellations of the Zodiac, and called by Manes,

    Olamin. Satan, also, Lord of the Empire of Darkness, had an Army of

    Eons or Demons, emanating from his Essence, and reflecting more or

    less his image, but divided and inharmonious among themselves.

  • PART SIX

    A war

    among them brought them to the confines of the Realm of Light.

    Delighted, they sought to conquer it. But the Chief of the Celestial Empire

    created a Power which he placed on the frontiers of Heaven to protect his

    Eons, and destroy the Empire of Evil. This was the Mother of Life, the

    Soul of the World, an Emanation from the Supreme Being, too pure to

    come in immediate contact with matter.

  • PART SEVEN

    It remained in the highest region;

    but produced a Son, the first Man [the Kaiomorts, Adam-Kadmon,

    [Protos Anthropos,] and Hivil-Zivah; of the Zend-Avesta, the

    Kabalah, the Gnosis, and Sabeism]; who commenced the contest with the

    Powers of Evil, but, losing part of his panoply, of his Light, his Son and

    many souls born of the Light, who were devoured by the darkness,

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  • PART NINE

    The Divine Spirit, after having brought back the Primitive Man to the Empire of

    Light, raises above the world that part of the Celestial Soul that remained

    unaffected by being mingled with the Empire of Darkness. Placed in the

    region of the Sun and Moon, this pure soul, the Son of Man, the

    Redeemer or Christ, labors to deliver and attract to Himself that part of

    the Light or of the Soul of the First Man diffused through matter; which

    done, the world will cease to exist.

  • PART TEN

    To retain the rays of Light still

    remaining among his Eons, and ever tending to escape and return, by

    concentrating them, the Prince of Darkness, with their consent, made

    Adam, whose soul was of the Divine Light, contributed by the Eons, and

    his body of matter, so that he belonged to both Empires, that of Light and

    that of Darkness.

  • PART ELEVEN

    To prevent the light from escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of "knowledge of good and evil," by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; an Angel of Light induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him into an act of Sensualism, that enfeebled him, and bound him anew in the bonds of matter.

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    This is repeated in the case of every man that lives.

    To deliver the soul, captive in darkness, the Principle of Light, or Genius

    of the Sun, charged to redeem the Intellectual World, of which he is the

    type, came to manifest Himself among men. Light appeared in the

    darkness, but the darkness comprehended it not; according to the words

    of St. John. The Light could not unite with the darkness.

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    It but put on the appearance of a human body, and took the name of Christ in the

    Messiah, only to accommodate itself to the language of the Jews. The Light did its work, turning the Jews from the adoration of the Evil Principle, and the Pagans from the worship of Demons. But the Chief of the Empire of Darkness caused Him to be crucified by the Jews. Still He suffered in appearance only, and His death gave to all souls the symbol of their enfranchisement.

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  • PART FIFTEEN

    AND THEN PIKE MOVES ON THE FAITH OF THE PRISCILLIANISTS

    With the Priscillianists there were two principles, one the Divinity, the

    other, Primitive Matter and Darkness; each eternal. Satan is the son and

    lord of matter; and the secondary angels and demons, children of matter.

    Satan created and governs the visible world. But the soul of man

    emanated from God, and is of the same substance with God.

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    Seduced by the evil spirits, it passes through various bodies, until, purified and

    reformed, it rises to God and is strengthened by His light. These powers

    of evil hold mankind in ledge; and to redeem this pledge, the Saviour,

    Christ the Redeemer, came and died upon the cross of expiation, thus

    discharging the written obligation. He, like all souls, was of the

    same substance with God, a manifestation of the Divinity, no forming a

    second person;

  • PART SEVENTEEN

    unborn, like the Divinity, and nothing else than the Divinity under another form.

    * * * * *

    And so on; THEN speaking on Masons (I'll quote if you like)

    You didn't quote that stuff or note that Pike was speaking of other religions, NOT Masonry. And please don't use the excuse that you were limited by character count. You make post after post after post. You know how it works. You fill in the password when prompted to. Please don't pretend you are unaware of that.

  • @richcapo Why have you quoted all this man? The simple truth is that Jesus = Lucifer.

    Pike was a gnostic.

    He has much to say about the gnostic systems of the early Christian era.

  • @02Blackbeard "The simple truth is that Jesus = Lucifer."

    You deride Pike as being Luciferian over and again. Why? You also treat Lucifer as evil in many of your posts.

    Regarding Waite: You do realize that he is detailing the indictments against Pike, such as those leveled by Leo Taxil, and NOT agreeing with them, yes? Also, are you aware that Waite wrote his book four years before he became a Mason.

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  • @richcapo Who said that Pike was a devil? Devil = Diabolos = deceiver, father of lies/unreality.

    Pike was a scholar of Religions/Esoterica....Yes. He was a Universalist. He was not anti-gnostic. And certain strands in gnosticism are Luciferian.

    "Biblical, prior or following" what?

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  • I am a fly.

  • Pike was an advocate of the Perennial Philosophy.

  • Anti-masons can be masons been done what they are for their own purpose. To control the ones against them, as now a days happens

  • i dont seen any missquotes here plain as day the things so-caled anti-masons say he said he actualy did say.... you prove it with this vid all the quotes are real quotes

    so whats the point of this vid again?

  • @CyberPirateTrader So what exactly is Pike saying about Lucifer in Morals and Dogma?

  • @02Blackbeard He says that men should "aspire to God alone and despise all the pomps and works of Lucifer" (Morals and Dogma, p. 320), and that Lucifer is the Spirit of Darkness who punishes the evil (ibid.).

  • @richcapo But who is the Masonic God? I thought Masons were seeking LIGHT? Lucifer is the Light-bearer.

    Pike does not use the word "punishes". Pike implies that Lucifer is TO FEEBLE, SENSUAL AND SELFISH SOULS the Spirit of Darkness. To meet a brilliant light unprepared would blind you, would it not? So the fault is with the unprepared souls.

    But what would the Light bearer be to the initiated???? The prepared. Answer that.

  • @02Blackbeard "But who is the Masonic God?"

    There is no "Masonic God." There is just God.

    "I thought Masons were seeking LIGHT?"

    Correct.

    "Lucifer is the Light-bearer."

    So is Jesus to Christians. To Masons, light simply means personal enlightenment -- self improvement and a better understanding of and relationship to God.

    "Pike implies that Lucifer is TO FEEBLE, SENSUAL AND SELFISH SOULS the Spirit of Darkness"

    Incorrect. The Spirit of darkness who blinds such souls.

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  • And here is what Pike has to say about "sublime faith. It "aspires to God alone,

    and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer." Morals and Dogma, p,320 (preceding "Spirit of Darkness" line")

    Once again, what does should a men of sublime faith do? "DESPISE ALL THE POMPS AND WORKS OF LUCIFER," which is the polar opposite of worshiping Lucifer, yes?, making the idea of Pike being a Luciferian a pure myth.

  • @richcapo "Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!" bears an exclamation mark, NOT a question mark. Pike obviously sees Lucifer as the Light-bearer. He asks the question, "Is it he" (lucifer) who bears the Light...?" "Doubt it not!" In other words...YES!

  • @02Blackbeard Again, you quote cut. Here it is in full:

    "LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the SPIRIT

    OF DARKNESS ! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, AND WITH ITS SPLENDORS INTOLERABLE BLINDS FEEBLE, SENSUAL OR SELFISH SOULS? Doubt it not!"

    And this comes right after he calls for men to "aspire to God alone, and despise all the pomps and works of Lucifer."

    You must worship the Devil to lie like that over and again.

  • @richcapo No-one is lying dude. I am simply pointing out the obvious. That Lucifer is LIGHT, but he creates for some, DARKNESS. Go study Jung, Seven Sermons to the Dead. ABRAXAS. Go study G R S Mead, and then come back and study Pike afresh.

    You are simply reading Pike through Evangelical or RC specs. For Pike Lucifer is the Principle of LIGHT/ENLIGHTENMENT; not a PERSON. That daft idea came from the people Pike terms DUNCES.

  • @02Blackbeard Please dtop moving the goalposts. Just admit that you are wrong about Pike. I have shown you that over and again. To Pike, Lucifer is to be despised and is the Spirit of Darkness. Why deny that.

  • @richcapo Pike states that Lucifer is the Light-bearer. Why deny THAT????

  • @02Blackbeard I don't. He says that that is a "Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness!"

    Pike also says that only God should be worshiped and the work of Lucifer should be despised. Why deny that?

  • @richcapo 2 Peter 1:19. You will see there that Peter speaks of lucifer arising in our hearts.

    Do you know the origin of 666?

  • @02Blackbeard And if you read Morals and Dogma, you will see that Pike sees Lucifer as the Spirit of Darkness and that only God is worthy of aspiring to.

  • @02Blackbeard Biblical, prior, or following?

  • @richcapo "Pike implies that Lucifer is TO FEEBLE, SENSUAL AND SELFISH SOULS the Spirit of Darkness"

    Incorrect. The Spirit of darkness who blinds such souls.

    Wrong...It is the Light which blinds these feeble souls. The Light is a blinding light. The Light is intolerable to feeble souls. Darkness never blinded anyone. Darkness IS blindness.

    Jesus is Lucifer. The Light-bearer. Read your NT. He is the Bright Morning Star.

  • @02Blackbeard I have read the NT. That saying comes from Revelation; I am aware of that. Nevertheless, you criticize Pike for being a "Luciferian." If you didn't accept that the Devil is ALSO called Lucifer and equate Pike's Lucifer with the devil, then you would have no problem with the idea of Pike being "Luciferian," which he is NOT.

    Pike was Christian. He distinguishes Lucifer from Christ and DESPISES Lucifer, aspiring ONLY to God.

  • @02Blackbeard Now, would you please be a man and admit that you quote-cut what Pike said and left out that he was writing of what other religions believe, not what he or Masons believe, so as to support your lies that Pike and Masonry worship Lucifer the Devil? It would be the Christian thing to do, yes? As would to cease lying full-stop.

    Sir, I have proved you wrong every step of the way; you have lied every step of the way. Step away from Lucfier and lying and seek the light.

  • @richcapo Wrong. Pike implies that conventional religion is OK as far as it goes, but the real initiates move beyond this. He terms the early church fathers DUNCES because they substitute faith for gnosis.

    Where is the word "DESPISED" to be found in the text?

    You are simply reading Pike through Christian-tinted specs.

  • @02Blackbeard I just quoted him regarding the "sublime faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer."_Morals and Dogma, p. 320.

    "You are simply reading Pike through Christian-tinted specs."

    I am showing that Pike loved the Lord and hated the Devil, which you claim he didn't.

  • Albert called for three World Wars to achieve the One World Government. How can he claim holiness ?

  • @rcabletn This is according to a document in which Albert Pike speaks of NAZIS in 1871 -- six decades before NAZI was a word or a political movement: the document is a hoax in other words. It's a fiction published by an anti-Masonic in the 1950s that has its basis in the Leo Taxil Hoax of the nineteenth century.

  • So what if his book as been misquoted, he was a 'KKK' member, how much of a nice person could he had been.

  • @KingredDark - good point

  • @KingredDark Albert Pike was never in the KKK that is just an anti-Mason lie

  • @WaCCo80 Is that so? is that what Blue Lodge Master Masons are told? cuz higher degree members are allowed to lie to the lower degrees. Plus, he was a Confederate General, i also don't see him as a real nice person.

  • @KingredDark What do you mean by "allowed to lie to" ??? Can you give me proof from a Masonic author or from the rituals?

  • @02Blackbeard No need to probe nothing. Just keep your eyes wide open, and you'll see.

  • @KingredDark Dude...you have to have proof texts if you are going to claim that Masons or Christians or whoever said X Y or Z. Yes, we should keep our eyes open, but we also need to do some painstaking research.

  • @02Blackbeard Not everything thing will be hidden on text my friend. I can't tell you specificly were to look, But if you do your research well you might come across it. :. :.

  • the masons were conned and now it's out of control....webster the illum stooge wrote, we will basically con the wealthy and flatter and butter them up. People, masons were conned because they already had a network set up, they were infiltrated and then taken over. now they use the useful idiots, they were called that before they called the liberal voting base that. conservs are just as brainwashed. look who owns the media. hahhahhaha  it's the very bankers that own the FED. stop being conned

  • @sssssjjjj1 "hahhahhaha it's the very bankers that own the FED."

    Incorrect. The Fed's bank members are required to own a portion of capital stock in the Bank, but that's it. They don't set policy, nor are they permitted to refuse policy. I should know: I directed research for the nation's financial services institutions at the Consumer Bankers Association for years--you have no idea how much pissing and moaning I heard from Fed members about how they have no rights. Same with OCC.

  • I have made a video containing the full text of Pike's letter on Prince Hall Freemasonry which can be viewed at watch?v=dYA9PBrwvog

  • Allright I'm sorry but this man is very ill-intended and has ill intentions... Just read page 66, actually, the very last paragraph. Continue reading and you will see how he directly goes against christianity. Implying that lies are kept from the masses, and thus, that is what he promotes, for people are not ready, nor will they ever be for the truth, so we must keep the massess ignorant... wow... what a wonderful leader...

  • @CrippledKnight Thanks for the update I am reading this for myself to

  • Yeah.... things to start getting kinda nasty around page 66. There's many allegory to the adoration to ancient gods. If that's your thing, fine with me, but I really don't like him admiring/praising those kabalisic men that said things like the truth must be kept from the massess... Nonetheless open mindedness is needed to read this book, I'll finish it and write more... but it sounds a lot like helena blavazky, sadly, just like I thought. I'll try referencing more after I'm done. Have a gday!

  • @CrippledKnight I agree that having knowledge over and above others puts one is a tenuous position, because knowledge is control and control is power, and we know what that tends to do :) On the other hand, maybe the real truths about this world are so dark and muddied as for the great majority to be better off not knowing them, as they would be unable to accept them for what they are? Therefore, a natural "Chiefs and Indians" division may always exist, be the natural state of things?

  • @thespacialone I agree with you to a certain extent. Not everyone is ready for a reality check. Yet keeping certain secrets from most will give you the advantage of providing them with false knowledge as to make them do whatever you deem best. I myself have been the victim of several... reality check things... I'd dare say things that are out of this world... if I sat down with someone to explain, they' think I'm crazy, nonetheless, it may serve as warning to some. Helping some, may be worth it.

  • @CrippledKnight Until someone is able to explain to me from whence power emanates, how it is acquired, and to what ends it has been as is being exercised, I am dubious that they anyone is in a position to commentate.

    National Socialism in Germany seems to me to have been the most healthy and human set up in nominally recorded history. Did that doctrine conflict with freemasonry? If so, how? National Socialism seems pretty much common sense when the cobwebs are blown away, but I can only guess.

  • @thespacialone I'm sorry but I really hope that you're joking... the idea of national socialism sounds beautiful and if perfectly implemented could probably help the country... yet... the comparison that you're making is not only wrong but horrible. The NS implemented in Germany was a failure, they depended not only on the spols of war of murdered and innocent countries but slave work from millions... NS in Germany has NOTHING to do with humanism and whomever fails to recognize it is blissful.

  • I do must say, that I'm currently reading morals and dogma. I have not found things to incriminate Albert Pike, but things that make many others look even worse... specially when it talks about pan, and lucifer praising... he is explicitly saying some people on the top do worship the devil. I have not researched it completely. It seems neutral for now, at least the book, not talking about his persona.

  • Thank you for posting this. Whether or not there is some sinister masonic plan or not is a matter of debate by people who actually are willing to make an effort to understand the reality of the situation. Understand by taking the time to read the books and check the facts. This is not for lazy spoon fed sheeple. I can not agree with bearing false witness/lying. However, how can these secret societies complain of suspicion and rumors? Why be secret if there is nothing to hide or a hidden agenda?

  • It took less then a minute to download the book for free. I started to read it after a quick scan for these quotations. I do not see anything wrong with this book so far. The only people with a problem are those who have no tolerance for beliefs other then their own. When this country was founded it was founded so people would not be persecuted for their beliefs. There are thousands of different beliefs in the Christian faith alone. Freedom is something to fight and die for not religion.

  • @bmichelled70 "Freedom is something to fight and die for not religion."

    Amen, brother. So mote it be!

  • In the past 200years, wars, terror, massacre, assassinations, eto... are mere fraud.,

     We were only actors in the burlesque.

    Imperialism that had been lasted until the middle of the twentieth century is not over yet.

    America is still not independent (is just pretending) , remain in a state of the colony.

    Even Jewish finance is only charged with the administration of the colony.

    Democracy was the biggest lie,

    It is the hoax to keep their conspiracy hidden

  • I would be more impressd if masonophones read tyhe whole 863 pages of Morals and Dogmas especially pages 540 to 567. There is an excellent book "A life of Albert Pike" just been rubbish Pile is the most maligned whipping boy for anti masons

  • More on the life of Albert Pike. Search: "Albert Pike Visits the Minneapolis Valley".

  • So, Albert pike was a nice guy? Is that why he founded the KKK? I don't know, but could anyone explain to me why are the KKK a happy and christian bunch? I kinda seem to not understand that small subject...

  • @CrippledKnight I am very interested in any real proof that he started the KKK. Not that I don't believe you or do believe you. I just have been trying to find some fact that I can check myself.

  • @bmichelled70 Hello there bro. Sorry, I might have mispelled in anger, he was chief judiciary or manager once. I'll try to get the proper information, when I'm out of work and provide you with whatever I can find. I think it would be kind of awkward for me to start researching that in my work now lol. Anyway, I'll get back at you. FYI, My intentions are not to spread hate, if not awareness. Not only of official theories but of extreme conspiracy stuff too. Ill talk to you later, regards! :)

  • @bmichelled70 "I am very interested in any real proof that he started the KKK."

    There is none. Pike, like Washington, Jefferson, and so on was an unabashed racist (racism: gross), but he was never a member of the KKK.

    Pike, like Washington et al, preached a beautiful philosophy of tolerance and freedom. It's too bad he didn't practice it, as well.

  • I concur with this video.

    Also, if you research long enough on just the conspiracy theories, you will eventually find conflicts- not just misquotes, but symbolic interpretations and also in the supposed time-lines. It is amazing how some people call themselves educated in this subject and believe the craziest stuff. Among the oddest, that Ben Franklin was a Satan-worshiping cannibal! LOL

  • @thevisionary2007 Even though there are some things that make total sense with reality, some conspiracy stuff is there just to mislead. That is why one must be careful in what you research. I don't eat up all official stories, but it is our responsibility to look at both sides of the argument. If one says the car was white, and the other it was black, great chances are that the car was gray. History itself, is complete with riddles, false and proven conspiracies. Regards!

  • Good outline. Have a look at this letter from Pawns in the Game.

  • Even though the quote can not be found in Morals and Dogma, there is an interview with a german high level freemason here on Youtube named Wolfgang Stark (60 minutes long). Strangely he says the exact same thing written by Leo Taxil that the Godhead is a duality of Jesus and Lucifer.

    No kidding, search for, if you understand German.

  • So what did you prove?Masons are still satanist fagbags.Go die.Plox.