I am Canadian and I went to Beaumont -Hamel (The Somme) on a school history spring break trip. This is where the Royal Newfoundland Regiment, on the 1st of july 1916, recieved orders to move forward,out of 22 officers and 758 soldiers, 68 were at roll call the next day...A year later at the battle of Arras, the same regiment lost 458 men in a day, there were towns in Newfoundland where all the men had died.
@ledzepplinkid12321 people always forget about Canada and Australia dont they? We only went to war because we were part of 'the empire' and I'm not sure about Canada, but for our population Australia suffered unimaginable losses...
They just dont make documentaries like this anymore. Just a bloke talking with archive footage, eyewitness statements and the occasional tune to give it some atmosphere. Good solid informative stuff without any of that modern flashy sensationalist nonsense to distract you from the point like OTT reconstructions and computer graphics.
I could watch the first minute again and again. That music is so strangly beautiful.
What a waste..arrogance and false pride created the perfect storm that consumed
millions of people and for what...Nothing.! Just give a war about 50 years or so, and it would look like it was not worth it, Korea and Vietnam an example. Any body wants to bet that the war on Iraq and Afghanistan in few years from now would look also like total waste. ! the only people that will tell you it was worth it, are idiots and people who made money off it.!
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it's simple ... had japan not attacked pearl harbor the usa wouldn't have done shit on the european main land.... only reason why they attacked was because they where attacked first..... so actually maybe we should say ty to japan :o
@GoodwinCarpenter You are clearly uniformed about the actual history of WWII. I'd suggest a year or so of intensive rather than mindless conjecture. However, you are very well versed in ignorance, clearly.
@spinynorman230 GREECE HAD DEFEATED ITALY U MORON!! and then hitler/bulgaria and albania attacked in greece. panzers were destroyed by the russian T-34!! READ A FUCKING BOOK DAMMIT!!! USA IN WW2 SENDED ONLY FOOD SUPPLIES AND SOME MILITARY STUFF.EVEN MIDDEL EAST SENDED FOOD IN EUROPE THAT TIME.EUROPE WAS FIGHTING AND USA WAS JUST SITING ON ITS ASS.USA WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A TINY PROVIDER OF EUROPE.U FUCKING STUPID GO READ HISTORY DAMMIT!!! I WOULD PUNCH U SO HARD 4 TYPING THOSE NONSESES!!!
Why does this kind of beautiful footage always has to be disgraced by such poor comments ? I was always taught that the allied forces had won the war (both WW I and WW II), Allied meaning several countries fighting for the same good cause ... shame on all those hate spilling spammers here ...
@spinynorman230 Of course we would have won withoit military aid from the US. Maybe the war would have gone on longer, but there was no way the axis would have been able to deal reverse the tide at that time. Don't get me wrong, the British would not have been able to cope without the raw materials from the US, but at best at best all the American military effort achived was to slightly shortern the war.
@spinynorman230 The Germans had a good navy, it was checked because the British had the most powerful navy in the world, which cleared out the med and also allowed the British to beat the Germans on North Africa. "YOU" did not invade Italy, it was once again a combined operation and the commonwealth landed the most troops. The bulk of the Japanese army was in China and a large part of it was in Burma, who were taking a beating.
If you want to read an awesome real-life account of this, get: "Somme Mud" by E.P.F Lynch who wrote down his experience there, including the mining at Messines Ridge.
@godwin: know your facts: in 1917 russia was forced to withdraw from the war after having lost several critical battles and moreover internal political turmoil (lenin), so what do you mean by ''germans were on full retreat in the east??????!!!! the victory in the east gave the germans the opportunity to undertake one last offensive in the west in 1918 before the yanks came. with all do respect, britain can never boast being the decisive factor in both ww1 and 2. once again with all do respect.
@tehredmage Also. The Americans and British both sent the SAME amount of men in D-day. The British Second Army (Monty) and the American First army (Bradley) The English DID take on three beach heads, ONE more then the Americans, though the Americans lost more men and got through first. We did it TOGETHER. Not the British doing all the work and the Americans just acting like they fought, We BOTH lost half a million.
@whythewar1 Though if you look at the western allies the British did do most of the work. But hollywood is in America and people to this day still believe that Patton was more than an average general.
@GodwinCarpenter Well, if you look in the east the Russians did ALL of the work. You could almost say that each country fought they're own separate fronts
@GodwinCarpenter Well, America wanted to stay out of the war, until we had to, the british DID do most of the work, but you have to admit the Americans played a huge role in the last major offensives. You can't strips any countries credit in either war, whether they were greeted or not, we should just thank them for being involved at all. Plus, Patton wasn't an ordinary general, yet at the same time neither was Zhukov for the Russians, or Hugh Dowding for the RAF . WWII was a joint effort.
@whythewar1 The war could not have been won without America, and it's not because of America's military contribution towards the end of the war. Though this probably did save time, the reason for America being a key member of the alliance is the raw materials it provided Britain and indeed Russia. I'll always maintain that Patton was just an average general with a larger than life personality. America did have a couple of good generals, but these were left in the shadow of Patton.
@GodwinCarpenter I'm sorry, but that's simply untrue. I'm sure it sounds attractive in your history books to say you won WW2 for the allies, but it's incorrect. The USA ensured Britain's safety from invasion, and defeated the Japanese, that's all. As far as the Nazis go, Russia played the ultimate role. Britain defeated the Luftwaffe and German Navy, but her population was far too small to launch any attacks on German land. Russia crushed Hitler without the USA.
@whythewar1 And I know it goes against the grain to say this but Zhukov wasn't more than an average general either, he did nothing other than pour men at the Germans, but that's another story.
@GodwinCarpenter Yeah, but thats the Russians in General, he used deception well, but honestly its the average soldier that wins the battle, like I said, you can't say anyone was useless in the war, everyone who fought played their part, same in WWI.
@whythewar1 Yeah everyone played a role, I just don't like theway hollywood influences youngsters these days. I don't mean you, but some people's knowledge about ww2 is limited to saving private ryan ect.
@tehredmage Its inevitable, anything world war related would set any nationalist off, and yeah, all the shit about WW2 and it's a documentary about WW1... Very bizzare.
@tehredmage Someone probably called the germans nazis or named them "the badguys" ore something. Usualy is. Some people simply arn't intelligent enough to understand that there are no heroes and villains in the great war, only victims. Sorry about the horrible spelling it's 3:25 am and I don't realy care.
excellent feedback mate. the way i look at it, the moment allies bombed a german city or german territory from the air and the luftwaffen was unable to stop it, that was the turning point because he who controls the air will rule the land.
@Rico8458 that couldnt be more true. just look at the first Gulf War eh. but then again the US ruled the skies over Vietnam and they lost that war. 9 times of 10 ruling the skies means victory.
@Rico8458 Stalingrad was in WW2. the Battle of Stalingrad is widely see as the turning point of WW2. however many see the Battle of El Alamein in North Africa as the the true turning point. The British beat the Germans at El Alamein 3 months before the Soviets won in Stalingrad. as for the first bombing of Germany, i'm sure it was the Brits but maybe the French. good question
@Rico8458 ..Its also worth noteing that 75% of Americans fighting in the American Divisions were first generation British, with more than 70% having spent less than 10 years in the USA . 22% being Irish immigrants .And virtually the same applies to the Canadians and the Anzacs,,but as with all the colonial men they were much healthier and fitter.This is not written to put down these men its just a fact .Its you who is ignorant .and America got very rich from the wars the UK paid back every penny
@Rico8458 ..How wrong you are .The Germans knew they had lost after the Micheal offensive On 21 March 1918,,they called it the gamblers debit..The Dough boys were fighting but in a quiet sector called the Chemmes de Dames.under General Pershing..but there contribution was minimal WW1 ,it was over before they made an impact other than the Germans knew millions of Yanks would be on there way..it was a diffrent story in WW2 we could not have won with out you God bless the USA from the UK
@TASHKENTGOATMAN We could not have won without raw materials from the USA that's true, but we could have won it without them joining the war. Britain had already defeated the German air force and navy and most of the troops in the D-day landing were British or commonwealth soldiers. The Germans were on full retreat in the east. Once again the military contribution by the USA in WW2 was not vital at all.
America came into the “war to end all wars” in 1918 for the last offensives. The Flanders Field American Cemetery at Waregem is the smallest in Europe. The only American cemetery in Belgium from WWI is located in Waregem, 25 miles from Ypres.
Source: Belgium Flanders Fields (I think that is a serious source)
As GodwinVarpenter stated: We could not have won without raw materials from the USA.
@GodwinCarpenter Right, thats Europe. What about the Japanese? Also, America took on the invasion of italy almost single handedly. An American was the Supreme Allied Commander. We did our bit, and it helped. We lost a hell of a lot of men, just like the British. My grandfather got scared for life, my other one fought in Stalingrad, and my great uncle in the pacific. You cannot say, that any country wasn't important.
@GodwinCarpenter r u r WAAAY off about ww2, in case u forgot besides the european theater there was also the pacific theater. in the pacific theater we did everything. europeans contributed almost nothing. so like it or not the US of A played a big role in the WW2 :)
@mishgun420 Again, read all my posts, of course USA played a big part in the war, Britian couldn't have survived without the material aid from USA I don't think. And you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing of, maybe you got your information from Pacific or something. You've never heard of General Slim? And you didn't know about the Soviet invasion of Manchuria?
@GodwinCarpenter please the russians didnt see any real fighting in manchuria. the japanese that were on the border were over-powered real quick and with ease, and the australian guy, not sure how much he actually contributed but the americans did most dying and killing in the japanese theater. so need to get testie
@mishgun420 O really ? I believe it was the new zeelander and Austrialians that freaking hold the whole place together until America was able to mobilize it's assests to the pacific theater that safed the day (i'll the USA credit though, it was under there leadership they pulled that off seeming the Austrialians millitary was laughable in all regards). But without the aurstialians, the fight for the paciffic would have started at hawai for you guys.
@GodwinCarpenter lol, i would like to point out that Canada was the country that eventually took hold of passchendaele, and america was barely in ww1....usa's trying take credit for all the stuff
I'm English and with all respect the Americans won the pacific and defeated the Japanese. The Russians won the Eastern Front, but never had the Naval clout to take the Japanese and neither did we.
@GodwinCarpenter well there was canadas raw materials. I believe canada contributed more raw material/ vehicles/ ammunitions and weaponry than any other countrie in the world.... its very unfortunate america gets most of the credit for winning both wars, when my country was about a 10th of the size and helped the war 10 times as much.
@GodwinCarpenter except against the Japanese. That was clearly America's achievement. If you ask me, the main part in Europe was done by the Russians and British in WW2.
The Canadians did indeed do much of the fighting at Passchendaele, though it's a wee bit unfair to decry the efforts of the British army. By the autumn of 1917 the British army had been decimated by actions at Mons, Marne, the first and second battles of the Ypres, Loos, Neuve-Chappelle, Gallipoli, the Somme...
That part at 5:38 is abosolute BULLSHIT! The canadian Army was the tough army that could always be relied on... I remember my history teacher 15 years ago or so saying that Canada's Army in WW1 is kinda like Canada in the 72 summit series...they never gave up and they kept on attacking...
this is bullshit !!!! , Canadain troops won this battle, not the brit's, just like we took Vimmy, the somme, and all the other hard battles noone else could take
true words true words but being canadian we must be modest and allow our MAKERS (not including god because he isnt on earth and he doesnt want war so he wouldent take credit for it) to take credit for what we did
@assfark The Canadians took Passchendaele, which marked the furthest point of the British advance. They didn't "win" the battle, the battle lasted 4 months.......
@assfark It's pathetic that you're insulting your own comrades in battle. The Canadians and British fought as one, under the British empire. Both fought exceptionally well.
These videos are better than half of the shows that they air on the so called History Channel.
MrPhysics11 1 week ago
the Canadian Corps took Passchendaele on 6 November 1917
MrMedicinebox 1 month ago
I am Canadian and I went to Beaumont -Hamel (The Somme) on a school history spring break trip. This is where the Royal Newfoundland Regiment, on the 1st of july 1916, recieved orders to move forward,out of 22 officers and 758 soldiers, 68 were at roll call the next day...A year later at the battle of Arras, the same regiment lost 458 men in a day, there were towns in Newfoundland where all the men had died.
Jamesmartens55 2 months ago
7:45 that is one hell of an explosion
myth1032 2 months ago
British troops never fought at the battle of passchendaele... it was fought predominantly by the canadian corps and anzacs...
ledzepplinkid12321 3 months ago 2
@ledzepplinkid12321 people always forget about Canada and Australia dont they? We only went to war because we were part of 'the empire' and I'm not sure about Canada, but for our population Australia suffered unimaginable losses...
kdondon123 3 months ago
oi pricks. always dickheads talking about u.s this uk that, no one cares. ww1 is much more intresting than any of you ever will be
hordichuck 4 months ago
They just dont make documentaries like this anymore. Just a bloke talking with archive footage, eyewitness statements and the occasional tune to give it some atmosphere. Good solid informative stuff without any of that modern flashy sensationalist nonsense to distract you from the point like OTT reconstructions and computer graphics.
I could watch the first minute again and again. That music is so strangly beautiful.
sleeming88 5 months ago
What a waste..arrogance and false pride created the perfect storm that consumed
millions of people and for what...Nothing.! Just give a war about 50 years or so, and it would look like it was not worth it, Korea and Vietnam an example. Any body wants to bet that the war on Iraq and Afghanistan in few years from now would look also like total waste. ! the only people that will tell you it was worth it, are idiots and people who made money off it.!
bayridgo 5 months ago
To say the US contribution in WWII was not vital is to forget about the deeds of the Americans in the Pacific theater.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
i think the narrator needs a crack in the head. great footage but in truth the victorys claimed were short lived and the blood continued to be spilt.
baileys60 8 months ago
it's simple ... had japan not attacked pearl harbor the usa wouldn't have done shit on the european main land.... only reason why they attacked was because they where attacked first..... so actually maybe we should say ty to japan :o
jantje019 10 months ago
@jantje019 So why did the US send an expeditionary force to Africa? Is that not a land engagement?
scrap222666 6 months ago
@GoodwinCarpenter You are clearly uniformed about the actual history of WWII. I'd suggest a year or so of intensive rather than mindless conjecture. However, you are very well versed in ignorance, clearly.
horsensscope 10 months ago
Just respect i dont need to know who was the most important,
HastaLaVista6666 11 months ago
@spinynorman230 GREECE HAD DEFEATED ITALY U MORON!! and then hitler/bulgaria and albania attacked in greece. panzers were destroyed by the russian T-34!! READ A FUCKING BOOK DAMMIT!!! USA IN WW2 SENDED ONLY FOOD SUPPLIES AND SOME MILITARY STUFF.EVEN MIDDEL EAST SENDED FOOD IN EUROPE THAT TIME.EUROPE WAS FIGHTING AND USA WAS JUST SITING ON ITS ASS.USA WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A TINY PROVIDER OF EUROPE.U FUCKING STUPID GO READ HISTORY DAMMIT!!! I WOULD PUNCH U SO HARD 4 TYPING THOSE NONSESES!!!
itachiitachi1946 1 year ago
@itachiitachi1946 That's true, and the Greeks fought very well indeed.
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks" - Winston Churchill
TheLiberalKnight 10 months ago
Why does this kind of beautiful footage always has to be disgraced by such poor comments ? I was always taught that the allied forces had won the war (both WW I and WW II), Allied meaning several countries fighting for the same good cause ... shame on all those hate spilling spammers here ...
Rikske77 1 year ago 3
@mengutimur : have you seen this documentary on TV ?
Is it avaliable on DVD ?
Coldgin94 1 year ago
@spinynorman230 Of course we would have won withoit military aid from the US. Maybe the war would have gone on longer, but there was no way the axis would have been able to deal reverse the tide at that time. Don't get me wrong, the British would not have been able to cope without the raw materials from the US, but at best at best all the American military effort achived was to slightly shortern the war.
GodwinCarpenter 1 year ago
@spinynorman230 The Germans had a good navy, it was checked because the British had the most powerful navy in the world, which cleared out the med and also allowed the British to beat the Germans on North Africa. "YOU" did not invade Italy, it was once again a combined operation and the commonwealth landed the most troops. The bulk of the Japanese army was in China and a large part of it was in Burma, who were taking a beating.
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If you want to read an awesome real-life account of this, get: "Somme Mud" by E.P.F Lynch who wrote down his experience there, including the mining at Messines Ridge.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@godwin: know your facts: in 1917 russia was forced to withdraw from the war after having lost several critical battles and moreover internal political turmoil (lenin), so what do you mean by ''germans were on full retreat in the east??????!!!! the victory in the east gave the germans the opportunity to undertake one last offensive in the west in 1918 before the yanks came. with all do respect, britain can never boast being the decisive factor in both ww1 and 2. once again with all do respect.
flyboy7819 1 year ago
... how the fuck did these jerks start talking about WW2?
tehredmage 1 year ago 43
@tehredmage Also. The Americans and British both sent the SAME amount of men in D-day. The British Second Army (Monty) and the American First army (Bradley) The English DID take on three beach heads, ONE more then the Americans, though the Americans lost more men and got through first. We did it TOGETHER. Not the British doing all the work and the Americans just acting like they fought, We BOTH lost half a million.
whythewar1 11 months ago
@whythewar1 Though if you look at the western allies the British did do most of the work. But hollywood is in America and people to this day still believe that Patton was more than an average general.
GodwinCarpenter 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter Well, if you look in the east the Russians did ALL of the work. You could almost say that each country fought they're own separate fronts
whythewar1 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter Well, America wanted to stay out of the war, until we had to, the british DID do most of the work, but you have to admit the Americans played a huge role in the last major offensives. You can't strips any countries credit in either war, whether they were greeted or not, we should just thank them for being involved at all. Plus, Patton wasn't an ordinary general, yet at the same time neither was Zhukov for the Russians, or Hugh Dowding for the RAF . WWII was a joint effort.
whythewar1 11 months ago
@whythewar1 The war could not have been won without America, and it's not because of America's military contribution towards the end of the war. Though this probably did save time, the reason for America being a key member of the alliance is the raw materials it provided Britain and indeed Russia. I'll always maintain that Patton was just an average general with a larger than life personality. America did have a couple of good generals, but these were left in the shadow of Patton.
GodwinCarpenter 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter I'm sorry, but that's simply untrue. I'm sure it sounds attractive in your history books to say you won WW2 for the allies, but it's incorrect. The USA ensured Britain's safety from invasion, and defeated the Japanese, that's all. As far as the Nazis go, Russia played the ultimate role. Britain defeated the Luftwaffe and German Navy, but her population was far too small to launch any attacks on German land. Russia crushed Hitler without the USA.
TheLiberalKnight 10 months ago 3
@whythewar1 And I know it goes against the grain to say this but Zhukov wasn't more than an average general either, he did nothing other than pour men at the Germans, but that's another story.
GodwinCarpenter 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter Yeah, but thats the Russians in General, he used deception well, but honestly its the average soldier that wins the battle, like I said, you can't say anyone was useless in the war, everyone who fought played their part, same in WWI.
whythewar1 11 months ago
@whythewar1 Yeah everyone played a role, I just don't like theway hollywood influences youngsters these days. I don't mean you, but some people's knowledge about ww2 is limited to saving private ryan ect.
GodwinCarpenter 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter Nah, neither do I, as much as I defend Americas role, we weren't the only country.. plus the thin red line was better....
whythewar1 11 months ago
@tehredmage It's all these American Nazis and rednecks who only want to spread propaganda.
toqtaqiya 8 months ago
@tehredmage Its inevitable, anything world war related would set any nationalist off, and yeah, all the shit about WW2 and it's a documentary about WW1... Very bizzare.
DannyFox06 4 months ago
@tehredmage Someone probably called the germans nazis or named them "the badguys" ore something. Usualy is. Some people simply arn't intelligent enough to understand that there are no heroes and villains in the great war, only victims. Sorry about the horrible spelling it's 3:25 am and I don't realy care.
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Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 yeah right, bitxh! jajajja, fucking loser!
stradhex 1 year ago
excellent feedback mate. the way i look at it, the moment allies bombed a german city or german territory from the air and the luftwaffen was unable to stop it, that was the turning point because he who controls the air will rule the land.
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 that couldnt be more true. just look at the first Gulf War eh. but then again the US ruled the skies over Vietnam and they lost that war. 9 times of 10 ruling the skies means victory.
JimmyG228 1 year ago
stalingrad was the turning point? or the first time allies dropped a bomb on german soil?
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 Stalingrad was in WW2. the Battle of Stalingrad is widely see as the turning point of WW2. however many see the Battle of El Alamein in North Africa as the the true turning point. The British beat the Germans at El Alamein 3 months before the Soviets won in Stalingrad. as for the first bombing of Germany, i'm sure it was the Brits but maybe the French. good question
JimmyG228 1 year ago
@Rico8458 So wrong.
Teasercop 1 year ago
counter points accepted.
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 ..Its also worth noteing that 75% of Americans fighting in the American Divisions were first generation British, with more than 70% having spent less than 10 years in the USA . 22% being Irish immigrants .And virtually the same applies to the Canadians and the Anzacs,,but as with all the colonial men they were much healthier and fitter.This is not written to put down these men its just a fact .Its you who is ignorant .and America got very rich from the wars the UK paid back every penny
TASHKENTGOATMAN 1 year ago
@Rico8458 ..How wrong you are .The Germans knew they had lost after the Micheal offensive On 21 March 1918,,they called it the gamblers debit..The Dough boys were fighting but in a quiet sector called the Chemmes de Dames.under General Pershing..but there contribution was minimal WW1 ,it was over before they made an impact other than the Germans knew millions of Yanks would be on there way..it was a diffrent story in WW2 we could not have won with out you God bless the USA from the UK
TASHKENTGOATMAN 1 year ago
@TASHKENTGOATMAN We could not have won without raw materials from the USA that's true, but we could have won it without them joining the war. Britain had already defeated the German air force and navy and most of the troops in the D-day landing were British or commonwealth soldiers. The Germans were on full retreat in the east. Once again the military contribution by the USA in WW2 was not vital at all.
GodwinCarpenter 1 year ago 7
@GodwinCarpenter Winston Churchill, in his History
of the Second World War, says you are wrong. Start with
'The Grand Alliance' and finish with 'Triumph and Tragedy'
for the viewpoint of the man who won the war for Western
Civilization.
rangerbobcat 1 year ago
@rangerbobcat First of all, this is WW1 not II.
America came into the “war to end all wars” in 1918 for the last offensives. The Flanders Field American Cemetery at Waregem is the smallest in Europe. The only American cemetery in Belgium from WWI is located in Waregem, 25 miles from Ypres.
Source: Belgium Flanders Fields (I think that is a serious source)
As GodwinVarpenter stated: We could not have won without raw materials from the USA.
Teasercop 1 year ago
@GodwinCarpenter ur soooo right dude
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whythewar1 11 months ago
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@GodwinCarpenter Right, thats Europe. What about the Japanese? Also, America took on the invasion of italy almost single handedly. An American was the Supreme Allied Commander. We did our bit, and it helped. We lost a hell of a lot of men, just like the British. My grandfather got scared for life, my other one fought in Stalingrad, and my great uncle in the pacific. You cannot say, that any country wasn't important.
whythewar1 11 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter r u r WAAAY off about ww2, in case u forgot besides the european theater there was also the pacific theater. in the pacific theater we did everything. europeans contributed almost nothing. so like it or not the US of A played a big role in the WW2 :)
mishgun420 10 months ago
@mishgun420 Again, read all my posts, of course USA played a big part in the war, Britian couldn't have survived without the material aid from USA I don't think. And you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing of, maybe you got your information from Pacific or something. You've never heard of General Slim? And you didn't know about the Soviet invasion of Manchuria?
GodwinCarpenter 10 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter please the russians didnt see any real fighting in manchuria. the japanese that were on the border were over-powered real quick and with ease, and the australian guy, not sure how much he actually contributed but the americans did most dying and killing in the japanese theater. so need to get testie
mishgun420 10 months ago
@mishgun420 O really ? I believe it was the new zeelander and Austrialians that freaking hold the whole place together until America was able to mobilize it's assests to the pacific theater that safed the day (i'll the USA credit though, it was under there leadership they pulled that off seeming the Austrialians millitary was laughable in all regards). But without the aurstialians, the fight for the paciffic would have started at hawai for you guys.
WarSmurfs 7 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter lol, i would like to point out that Canada was the country that eventually took hold of passchendaele, and america was barely in ww1....usa's trying take credit for all the stuff
flyingchimp99 3 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter Let's also keep in mind that the German army was a spent force because of their invasion of the U.S.S.R.
batfrend 2 months ago
@batfrend Very true.
GodwinCarpenter 2 months ago
@GodwinCarpenter
I'm English and with all respect the Americans won the pacific and defeated the Japanese. The Russians won the Eastern Front, but never had the Naval clout to take the Japanese and neither did we.
rolytigger 1 month ago
@GodwinCarpenter well there was canadas raw materials. I believe canada contributed more raw material/ vehicles/ ammunitions and weaponry than any other countrie in the world.... its very unfortunate america gets most of the credit for winning both wars, when my country was about a 10th of the size and helped the war 10 times as much.
crazylocoguitar 1 month ago
@crazylocoguitar I agree
GodwinCarpenter 1 month ago
@GodwinCarpenter except against the Japanese. That was clearly America's achievement. If you ask me, the main part in Europe was done by the Russians and British in WW2.
mistasomen 1 week ago
@Rico8458 Wrong.
Useless2112 1 year ago
'The British fought alone...' ? Fuck you!!!!
zuss10r 1 year ago 2
The Canadians did indeed do much of the fighting at Passchendaele, though it's a wee bit unfair to decry the efforts of the British army. By the autumn of 1917 the British army had been decimated by actions at Mons, Marne, the first and second battles of the Ypres, Loos, Neuve-Chappelle, Gallipoli, the Somme...
gavboy7771 1 year ago
That part at 5:38 is abosolute BULLSHIT! The canadian Army was the tough army that could always be relied on... I remember my history teacher 15 years ago or so saying that Canada's Army in WW1 is kinda like Canada in the 72 summit series...they never gave up and they kept on attacking...
Lotsoffun111 1 year ago
@Lotsoffun111 I remember hearing about in WW2, the hand-to-hand combat of Italy meant Canadians were constantly called in.
AVTTV 1 year ago
this is bullshit !!!! , Canadain troops won this battle, not the brit's, just like we took Vimmy, the somme, and all the other hard battles noone else could take
assfark 2 years ago
nobody really won this battle;it was a operational failure
from the allies.
Andiish08 2 years ago
that true but the british ruled Canada during this time
Marylandboy1000 2 years ago
@Marylandboy1000 Hahahhahahahah. NO.
AVTTV 1 year ago
true words true words but being canadian we must be modest and allow our MAKERS (not including god because he isnt on earth and he doesnt want war so he wouldent take credit for it) to take credit for what we did
tyanth12 2 years ago
@assfark The Canadians took Passchendaele, which marked the furthest point of the British advance. They didn't "win" the battle, the battle lasted 4 months.......
halifaxtanning 1 year ago
@assfark It's pathetic that you're insulting your own comrades in battle. The Canadians and British fought as one, under the British empire. Both fought exceptionally well.
TheLiberalKnight 10 months ago