I'm interested in picking up one copy of your "I Remember Miles" DVD. Do you still have that available? How much is it and what method's of payment do you accept? Also lastly, do you remember the month, day, and year that the interview was conducted on? Thanks again. Looking to hear back from you soon on this.
My email address djantomattei (at) gmail (dotcom)
@Girolata , Thanks for your comments. The You Tube version will be left exactly as is for IP protection reasons. The version for sale has corrected audio and less prominent copyright labeling. No need for subtitles.
Thats what was so beautiful learning to play music in St.Louis because all of the CHAMPIONS that live in that town you can learn from..if you didnt mind being cussed out..LOL!! because those boys dont play in the LOU!! WE LOVE YOU MILES and DIZZY!!!!(RIP) PEACE!!!
No, he was not on coke. Not for a long time. This is the way he talked. His idiosynchrosies may suggest otherwise, but he had been drug free for a long time at the time of this interview. Old habits die hard. Thanks for your comment.
Totownmedia: as you are working to finish the upcoming video, have you been in touch with Don Cheadle, who's working on a bio pic on Miles? You might have important information for him regarding Miles's brilliance as a deep thinker on music. Thanks.
i think its an extremely fascinating notion that the smarter an individual is, the more interesting music they have the capacity to play. it rings true in many cases: you hear a unique sound coming somewhere out of popular music, and then you find out about the person behind the music, and they are really interesting! :)
Well, how many geniouses do you ever run into, out of the hundred of thousands of people we meet? Not many...maybe a few real creative and clever people, but I've only met maybe 2 or 3 real geniouses. I figure Miles was probably about 100 X their brightness.
Mystery solved. I was always wondering why Miles blows it downward. This cleared everything for me.
This interview is much better than the one in 60minutes where the questions were about his wives, his pimping, his drug etc. The questions were geared much more to what I wanted to know about him as a musician.
Thanks for your comment. Part of what you say is true. His routine at the time of this interview was exactly that. Morning swim followed a painting session followed by his music. But his was not his apartment, it was a hotel room at the Hilton Hotel in the Shinjuku section of Tokyo, Japan.
I should know, I personally conducted the interview with him there. That's me asking the questions.
Thanks. Please subscribe for more clip uploads coming in a few days.
Japan.. a blowout, you're conducting this interview, that's heavy.
Miles Davis' lifeforce and creativity were intense and uncomprimising I feel, he should be an inspiration to all artist searching to be true to themselves. A very emotionally intelligent and sensitive guy it seems dealing with a lot of stuff to stay true to himself. RIP Miles Davis.
There's that red trumpet...he had a blue one also, this could be his Manhatten apartment...the story goes he would get up in the morning swim, then paint for a few hours until the early afternoon, then write and play his music after. I guess the swimming and painting all lead to a flowy creative state of mind when got to the music later in the day?
I dont think that's Charlie Parker's voice but rather Billy Eckstines. A shot shows a billboard of Parker's group with Miles at the 3 deuces, but he talks about the Eckstine organization breaking up and putting together a band of 5 pieces here and there. Also, the voice doesn't sound anything like any Parker's but sounds more mature. He also refers to meeting Miles as a youngster in St. Louis, but Parker was only 7 years older than Miles & wouldn't refer to Miles as a youngster.
Trust me. I produced this documentary. That's Parker's voice. Eckstine never had a group in the Three Deuces. When Parker was 24, Miles was just 17. That's a youngster. Also, Parker was very mature beyond his years.
seven years was a lot for jazz musicians at that era, because the music was progressing so explosively. and a few years was so much experience because both men started so young.
Totown! This is fantastic. It's candid, it's insightful, it's entertaining. It's about Miles, the person, the musician, the man. It's clear your interest in him, and admiration for him, is strong. This, my friend, is the perfect interview. This is a fan's interview.
haha Baked Walnut! If only! lots of people "love music". And of course some people have natural talent. I love Miles - could I play like him....I'll let you answer that in your own head and then you'll realise how silly your comment was.
you cant hate a type of music jazztradition i understand your passion for jazz, i have it too, but you gotta realise that all music follows some basic rules, even those that are completely different genres, a jazz musician can be influenced by 50 cent, if he was really digging deep and there was something about his music he liked
Reminds me of what Albert Murray says, basically, he's against the "white social science" view of the blues and black people, "playing the blues because they're sad"
and any jazz musician can pick out miles within the first few notes. if he sounded like everyone else i'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been such a big deal...
There are numerous greats whose conversations open doors and windows to a rich music education for the layman, but Miles was capable of carrying that out in a manner that I have never seen surpassed. It is a pity that there was no effort made to get him to video for both the formal classroom and for the consuming audience an introspective on the art of producing music as a composing/performing artist.
BRILLIANT Musicians! It's just amazing to me how musicianship has become a lost culture - and I mean culture. I know cats who shed over 24hrs straight. In today's Pop, rock, hip hop, or whatever you want to call it (because it's all the same) these kids don't even know where Middle C is.
Don't be offended by your own musical and harmonic short comings.
I'm actually not a "grandpa" I'm a 37 yr old musician that grew up in the 80's. Even though there was plenty of trash in Pop music then, there was still more than a handful of legit musicians unlike today.
If you consider yourself a musician and this is your response to my comment, you probably need a crash course in Music Theory so you can post a response that actually contains a bit of substance.
Ah, you're only 37. that might explain why you haven't matured enough to the point where you let go of these purist notions. it's a very uptight way of looking at things. Don't forget, even Miles and some of the best musicians eventually let go of these purist notions and adapted to the times by playing fusion and "cross-over". Yes Miles was even influenced by technical bums like Jimi Hendrix. don't be a music snob, in the end it's only you that loses out.
I don't think this guy is a musical snob. I am 37 and I agree with the man. There is certainly something left to be desired in terms of musicianship in this day and age. In my music collection I've got everything from Satch to Jimi Hendrix, Burning spear to Prince and this new girl Winehouse, among many others (old & new). Regarding you and your comments about what this dude said, If you don't know, you don't know.
you've only named pop music...trying digging a little deeper if you're so upset with the current state of music. the underground is where creativity flourishes.
you're a bit of an ignoramus to assume you know so much about someone you've had a few posts with on youtube. one thing is clear, you don't know much about music.
In a way I agree but at the same time disagree. I make hip-hop beats, yeah I know it's repatative loop based, sample based music but on the other hand, I study jazz and play the guitar and you'ld be suprised, a lot of "These kids" can actually throw down. The type of music produced is not always a reflection of the capabilities of the "producer"
I don't know if I'd say qweef, but he does strike me as being a bit disconnected from reality. For instance, has anyone ever seriously heard him play a single note and been like "Oh that's Mile's tone"?
Style I can buy, but tone no. I'm a knowledgeable musican and I've listened to plenty of his stuff. Hell I even started out playing trumpet for a few years. Why is it that when I hear a single trumpet note I can't tell if it's Miles or someone else? Tone comes far more from the instrument than from the lips.
Ohhhhh mannnnnn....love it! Just love listenin' to those cats talk about the music, chords, and sound. Sooooo real! At their age(s) you can easily see they were still students of the music....masters workin' on their craft.
Mr.Adams obviously is a proficient interviewer, these people are legendary!!! Yet they feel very comfotable, very natural,obviously Mr.Adams aquired a deep repore with his subjects!!! Greatly done!!! My hat is off to the GODFATHER of African-American Music in Japan!!!!
WOW! Can't wait to order the DVD. Miles has never been known to speak so freely about his music. This is historic groundbreaking stuff on a man who rarely sat for any interviews with the media. Obviously, he felt comfortable enough with Mr. Adams in Japan to express his feelings on camera. Legendary stuff. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for sharing this insightful reporting with the world on a man who Jazz lovers are now able to know more about.
awsome miles talking about relitivity!!!!!!!!!!
mykmmc 1 year ago
Hello Mal,
I'm interested in picking up one copy of your "I Remember Miles" DVD. Do you still have that available? How much is it and what method's of payment do you accept? Also lastly, do you remember the month, day, and year that the interview was conducted on? Thanks again. Looking to hear back from you soon on this.
My email address djantomattei (at) gmail (dotcom)
DjAntomattei 1 year ago
EVERYONE QUIET DOWN PLEASE, CLASS IS IN SESSION!!
blackvitruvianman 1 year ago
This guy makes a lot of sense
SkateTS808 1 year ago
Great stuff, may I suggest you should put subtitles in for Dizzy's interview and trim the intro credits or move to end, move copyright and CGs lower.
Girolata 1 year ago
@Girolata , Thanks for your comments. The You Tube version will be left exactly as is for IP protection reasons. The version for sale has corrected audio and less prominent copyright labeling. No need for subtitles.
totownmedia 1 year ago
@totownmedia Mal, does this mean that "I Remember Miles" has been completed and is now available as a DVD? Thanks.
Streamline09 1 year ago
@totownmedia Is the version made available for sale readily available now for purchase? Where and how much?
DjAntomattei 1 year ago
Gr8 post...thanx heaps
kevinherbert 1 year ago
Wow, great interviews....thanks for posting
phillipstall 1 year ago
Miles is so cool with moustaches
theRuck67 1 year ago
I wonder if this docko is in the Black History Archives...
I love this first part, I'm on my way to the second one!
jvlivs2 1 year ago
ArtEmar4you...
2MilesDAVIS&DizzyGILLESPIE4Ever... ! )
ArtEmar4you 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this...
ominousred 2 years ago
he look like a dark ass thriller. i say that with the utmost respect
thetrumpetman29 2 years ago
@thetrumpetman29 LMAO he's still awesome !
joi124 1 year ago
he could scare the shit out of u just with his presence
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
His breath wasn't that great, either.
stargate121 2 years ago
Thats what was so beautiful learning to play music in St.Louis because all of the CHAMPIONS that live in that town you can learn from..if you didnt mind being cussed out..LOL!! because those boys dont play in the LOU!! WE LOVE YOU MILES and DIZZY!!!!(RIP) PEACE!!!
zyruemusic 2 years ago 2
No, he was not on coke. Not for a long time. This is the way he talked. His idiosynchrosies may suggest otherwise, but he had been drug free for a long time at the time of this interview. Old habits die hard. Thanks for your comment.
Mal Adams
Interviewer/Producer
totownmedia 2 years ago
in his autobiography, he said it was laryngitis. apparently that's why his voice is a perpetual whisper.
strokesfan1107 2 years ago
Totownmedia: as you are working to finish the upcoming video, have you been in touch with Don Cheadle, who's working on a bio pic on Miles? You might have important information for him regarding Miles's brilliance as a deep thinker on music. Thanks.
Streamline09 2 years ago
@totownmedia yeah, that's what the story in print says... people think they know stuff.
rillloudmother 1 year ago
is he on coke?
azetas 2 years ago
Love him so much. He's in my heart always.
NoRosesForMe 2 years ago 2
an amazing perspective of music from Miles.
Ledvolta 2 years ago
i think its an extremely fascinating notion that the smarter an individual is, the more interesting music they have the capacity to play. it rings true in many cases: you hear a unique sound coming somewhere out of popular music, and then you find out about the person behind the music, and they are really interesting! :)
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago 3
Well, how many geniouses do you ever run into, out of the hundred of thousands of people we meet? Not many...maybe a few real creative and clever people, but I've only met maybe 2 or 3 real geniouses. I figure Miles was probably about 100 X their brightness.
flipwiggins 2 years ago
Miles could put his mouthpiece to his asshole and play better then many. He is the greatest.
RedPortiaOne 2 years ago 7
Mystery solved. I was always wondering why Miles blows it downward. This cleared everything for me.
This interview is much better than the one in 60minutes where the questions were about his wives, his pimping, his drug etc. The questions were geared much more to what I wanted to know about him as a musician.
allgoo19 2 years ago 9
"you can't march like this... you'll bump into something" hahaha
and then with dizzy "where's that note come from?"
"RIGHT THERE!!!"
"OHHHH!!!"
jloch85 2 years ago 3
Miles Davis was a revolutinary muscian.
rlittl01 3 years ago 3
Thanks for your comments. Stay tuned for more exclusive Miles Davis clips coming to this site soon.
Mal Adams
totownmedia 3 years ago
Thanks for your comment. Part of what you say is true. His routine at the time of this interview was exactly that. Morning swim followed a painting session followed by his music. But his was not his apartment, it was a hotel room at the Hilton Hotel in the Shinjuku section of Tokyo, Japan.
I should know, I personally conducted the interview with him there. That's me asking the questions.
Thanks. Please subscribe for more clip uploads coming in a few days.
Mal Adams
totownmedia 3 years ago
Japan.. a blowout, you're conducting this interview, that's heavy.
Miles Davis' lifeforce and creativity were intense and uncomprimising I feel, he should be an inspiration to all artist searching to be true to themselves. A very emotionally intelligent and sensitive guy it seems dealing with a lot of stuff to stay true to himself. RIP Miles Davis.
OnTheLibraryComputer 3 years ago 3
There's that red trumpet...he had a blue one also, this could be his Manhatten apartment...the story goes he would get up in the morning swim, then paint for a few hours until the early afternoon, then write and play his music after. I guess the swimming and painting all lead to a flowy creative state of mind when got to the music later in the day?
OnTheLibraryComputer 3 years ago
Miles Rocks. I always learn something new by watching a Miles Interview. To bad he didnt give out to many interviews over his 50 year career.
RedPortiaOne 3 years ago 2
So when/where can i buy the whole documentary?
The production quality is kind of amateur but the interview itself is really good, i dig it!
Cheers,
BP
BorysPomianek 3 years ago
I learn so much from just his interviews as much as from his music. Fantastic stuff!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 4
Yeah, that's definitely Bird's voice. I think from the interview with Paul Desmond & others. That's a fascinating interview, too.
ZabuToneMusic 3 years ago
love when he mentioned scale options over a given chord.
ricluvno304s 3 years ago
In the backround you can hear Al Jarreau.. .
jameosis1 3 years ago
I dont think that's Charlie Parker's voice but rather Billy Eckstines. A shot shows a billboard of Parker's group with Miles at the 3 deuces, but he talks about the Eckstine organization breaking up and putting together a band of 5 pieces here and there. Also, the voice doesn't sound anything like any Parker's but sounds more mature. He also refers to meeting Miles as a youngster in St. Louis, but Parker was only 7 years older than Miles & wouldn't refer to Miles as a youngster.
drsax2 3 years ago
Trust me. I produced this documentary. That's Parker's voice. Eckstine never had a group in the Three Deuces. When Parker was 24, Miles was just 17. That's a youngster. Also, Parker was very mature beyond his years.
Thak you for watching.
TotownMedia
Mal Adams, Producer/Director/Copyright Owner
totownmedia 3 years ago
@totownmedia I have heard a LOT of recordings of Bird's Voice...and I believe it to be him on this...no doubt in my mind.
Thank you so much for posting these videos.
Guitfiddlejase 10 months ago
seven years was a lot for jazz musicians at that era, because the music was progressing so explosively. and a few years was so much experience because both men started so young.
5pid3y 3 years ago
Must have for Miles-
Bitch Brew
Live/Evil
On the Corner
Dark Magus
then the rest from 1969 to 1975..
gioni 3 years ago 2
yeah?
5pid3y 3 years ago
this is the best interview that I have seen with Miles talkin tech...incredible
TheRealRalphButtawit 3 years ago
Totown Media,
Did Miles elaborate with you on when he got his red horn? It looks new. This interview has to be early-1985. Thank you
cali22boi 3 years ago
Totown! This is fantastic. It's candid, it's insightful, it's entertaining. It's about Miles, the person, the musician, the man. It's clear your interest in him, and admiration for him, is strong. This, my friend, is the perfect interview. This is a fan's interview.
Solomohn 3 years ago
Miles was beyond Juliard which is why he left.
lsoprimus 3 years ago
haha Baked Walnut! If only! lots of people "love music". And of course some people have natural talent. I love Miles - could I play like him....I'll let you answer that in your own head and then you'll realise how silly your comment was.
cimastudent 3 years ago
Is that actually Charlie Parker's voice? Because Miles didn't graduate from Juliard. Not that it matters, of course.
sugar1754 3 years ago 2
Yes, that is the voice of Charlie Parker. You are correct. Parker incorrectly stated that Miles graduated from Juliard.
Mal Adams
Totown Webmaster
totownmedia 3 years ago
The feeling comes because you love your music. Damn right, this idea of innate talent and feeling is often frustrating to hear.
BakedWalnut 3 years ago
Damn! I wish Dizzy had explained what note on what chord.
vindog34 3 years ago
I wish I was 1/10th as cool as Miles was .
sonor23 4 years ago 2
the epitome of cool. THE greatest post-war musician to ever have lived!
jazzmanEE 4 years ago 3
Listening to miles talk about the different scales was pretty cool around 2:45
pryorandrew 4 years ago 3
very inspirational. great post!
lokimagic 4 years ago
GREAT!! Thanks for posting.
Trumpetplayer60076 4 years ago
Miles = cool
DangerousBastard 4 years ago 3
can somebody tell me what dizzy says? :)
pzwumk20 4 years ago
whoa. gotta have the knowledge.
dizzyhayride 4 years ago 2
hell yes, theres WAY too many trumpet players who play and dont know about the theory of music, thats why miles is my idol
getrdun435 4 years ago
Who today is a famous Trumpet player that doesn't know the jazz theory of Rhythm changes and basic chord progressing and advanced chord progressions?
Jazzman303 3 years ago
This is like Miles college or somethin'. I learn so much from just his interviews as much as from his music. Fantastic stuff! Thanks!
wendileona 4 years ago
did dizzy always talk like that? Hard to understand somehow!
Groovehigh 4 years ago 4
He sounds like William Cosby... "You gotsta eat the pudding"!
farsighted27 4 years ago
zip zop zippity bop!
daDavemeister 4 years ago
SO f^&#@n heavy!!! the cat is too deep!
deitchadam 4 years ago
But white concept he meant the white MAN. The arrogant crackers. I am white, but I'm not a white man.
Gettinghitonattheban 4 years ago 2
heroin fucked him up
getrdun435 4 years ago
I wonder what Miles would say about youtube.. I think hed like the ideas behind it.
Skygerobrian 4 years ago 4
rad stuff
closetome 4 years ago
The way Dizzy speaks reminds me a lot of how Barry Harris speaks
mrpossibilities 4 years ago
you cant hate a type of music jazztradition i understand your passion for jazz, i have it too, but you gotta realise that all music follows some basic rules, even those that are completely different genres, a jazz musician can be influenced by 50 cent, if he was really digging deep and there was something about his music he liked
Saxophonic 4 years ago
Reminds me of what Albert Murray says, basically, he's against the "white social science" view of the blues and black people, "playing the blues because they're sad"
DiscoHank 4 years ago
Miles lives... and he's still teaching us.
mrp421 4 years ago
this is tight i'd like to see more of this.
and any jazz musician can pick out miles within the first few notes. if he sounded like everyone else i'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been such a big deal...
haveatomato 4 years ago 2
There are numerous greats whose conversations open doors and windows to a rich music education for the layman, but Miles was capable of carrying that out in a manner that I have never seen surpassed. It is a pity that there was no effort made to get him to video for both the formal classroom and for the consuming audience an introspective on the art of producing music as a composing/performing artist.
thebrbrownie 4 years ago
Genius miles teaching us about music.
darksideof1 4 years ago
funny how miles keeps playing with his nose... is he jonesing for a hit??
XXXMI 4 years ago
miles got into painting.
flypyd 4 years ago
lmao. @ white mans concept...
blingtheory 4 years ago
BRILLIANT Musicians! It's just amazing to me how musicianship has become a lost culture - and I mean culture. I know cats who shed over 24hrs straight. In today's Pop, rock, hip hop, or whatever you want to call it (because it's all the same) these kids don't even know where Middle C is.
jazztradition 4 years ago
thanks for the lecture grandpa jazzman. "in my day everything was so much better, blah blah blah"......zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
Don't be offended by your own musical and harmonic short comings.
I'm actually not a "grandpa" I'm a 37 yr old musician that grew up in the 80's. Even though there was plenty of trash in Pop music then, there was still more than a handful of legit musicians unlike today.
If you consider yourself a musician and this is your response to my comment, you probably need a crash course in Music Theory so you can post a response that actually contains a bit of substance.
jazztradition 4 years ago
Ah, you're only 37. that might explain why you haven't matured enough to the point where you let go of these purist notions. it's a very uptight way of looking at things. Don't forget, even Miles and some of the best musicians eventually let go of these purist notions and adapted to the times by playing fusion and "cross-over". Yes Miles was even influenced by technical bums like Jimi Hendrix. don't be a music snob, in the end it's only you that loses out.
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
I don't think this guy is a musical snob. I am 37 and I agree with the man. There is certainly something left to be desired in terms of musicianship in this day and age. In my music collection I've got everything from Satch to Jimi Hendrix, Burning spear to Prince and this new girl Winehouse, among many others (old & new). Regarding you and your comments about what this dude said, If you don't know, you don't know.
jazztradition 4 years ago
you've only named pop music...trying digging a little deeper if you're so upset with the current state of music. the underground is where creativity flourishes.
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
Let me guess...you make "beats." You get the best beats "underground."
Shows the extent of your musical knowledge. Where do you think Jazz is played???
jazztradition 4 years ago
you're a bit of an ignoramus to assume you know so much about someone you've had a few posts with on youtube. one thing is clear, you don't know much about music.
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
In a way I agree but at the same time disagree. I make hip-hop beats, yeah I know it's repatative loop based, sample based music but on the other hand, I study jazz and play the guitar and you'ld be suprised, a lot of "These kids" can actually throw down. The type of music produced is not always a reflection of the capabilities of the "producer"
shiftyshif 4 years ago
miles is a great musician but he acts like a bit of a qweef
grgrgrgff 4 years ago
hmmm I disagree
GospelRoadRt666 4 years ago
I don't know if I'd say qweef, but he does strike me as being a bit disconnected from reality. For instance, has anyone ever seriously heard him play a single note and been like "Oh that's Mile's tone"?
forgetsalot 4 years ago
ARE YOU JOKING??? Miles had one of the most DISTINCTIVE tone and style EVER! Any knowledgeable musician knows Miles just by hearing the 1st downbeat.
This is one of the most laughable comments I've ever read on any blog.
jazztradition 4 years ago
Style I can buy, but tone no. I'm a knowledgeable musican and I've listened to plenty of his stuff. Hell I even started out playing trumpet for a few years. Why is it that when I hear a single trumpet note I can't tell if it's Miles or someone else? Tone comes far more from the instrument than from the lips.
forgetsalot 4 years ago
Open your ears brother.
jazztradition 4 years ago
Right, because I'm not listening.
forgetsalot 4 years ago
You said it.
jazztradition 4 years ago
Well, I personally have. So many trumpeters have ripped Miles off that he seems less distinctive in retrospect.
GolumTR 4 years ago
I could listen to Miles for hours. It gives me the chills.
I don't think there was ever someone who knew more about music than he did.
Fenster74 4 years ago
That was a treat!
bobilleg74 4 years ago
you see this music critics? "A instrument should be played however you feel comftable playing it"
Saxophonic 4 years ago
This is beute
mattroberts66 4 years ago
Miles, is so COOL.
FrozenStormrider 4 years ago
Classic...
hsabree 4 years ago
A shame you can't hear anything of what Dizzy is saying.The Miles parts are pure gold, baby! :-D
RobeeMan 4 years ago
so is this out yet?
GtMstng65 4 years ago
can't hear half of what he says, what was the sound guy upto?
gawpertron 4 years ago
SHIT i wanna buy this DVD
ColdByro 4 years ago
How old was he in this interview?
teoshaker 4 years ago
Ohhhhh mannnnnn....love it! Just love listenin' to those cats talk about the music, chords, and sound. Sooooo real! At their age(s) you can easily see they were still students of the music....masters workin' on their craft.
Inspiring!!!!
neilstalnaker007 5 years ago
Mr.Adams obviously is a proficient interviewer, these people are legendary!!! Yet they feel very comfotable, very natural,obviously Mr.Adams aquired a deep repore with his subjects!!! Greatly done!!! My hat is off to the GODFATHER of African-American Music in Japan!!!!
Drxtra 5 years ago
WOW! Can't wait to order the DVD. Miles has never been known to speak so freely about his music. This is historic groundbreaking stuff on a man who rarely sat for any interviews with the media. Obviously, he felt comfortable enough with Mr. Adams in Japan to express his feelings on camera. Legendary stuff. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for sharing this insightful reporting with the world on a man who Jazz lovers are now able to know more about.
totownmedia 5 years ago