You were a stupid cunt when you uploaded this drivel in 2008, you are still a stupid cunt today, and it seems almost certain you will still be a stupid cunt in the future.
@defjam99b ur the most stupidest cunt of the cuntes... like a cunts motherfucking cunter... u got the joke of my comment? theres no joke itz just too stupid... like ur comment is... got it? i dont think so becuz ur so a cunt...
Kubica overtook both vettel and hamilton with slick 3 laps before the end. he remained in front of them till the finish!!!!!!!!!!!!! even in last corner he took enough speed to stay in front of them. F1 is a circus!!! come on Hamilton touching a button in 2007 and losing so many places?! The real sport died when money came in it...
@AIfonzoPizzaBoy well he didn't stay out in order to help massa. also what the uploader failed to realise is that it only really started to hammer it down on the last 2 laps. first lap would have completely sucked the temps out of his tyres so on his last lap he would have had no tyre temperature on a damp track, he did very well.
Toyota gambled and let both Glock and Trulli stay out on dry tires.
Look a TRULLI's lap time wit the dry tires. Then you'll realize he was as slow as Glock.
Check mate.
Funny how they also thought Petrov was paid by Red Bull to block Alonso. Hahaha! Idiots, they fought over position and if he couldn't get past him then it was his problem.
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth Yes, Petrov was helping Red Bull for a simply reason: Red Bull has Renault engine, so is better for Renault that "Red Bull Renault" win the Championship, for earn more money and for appear in the TV's.
@whalerofthemoon Well, I think is different, because Vettel wants to finish in a good position for going to Red Bull next season, and for Petrov the team said to he to stop Alonso in race or if not, Petrov can be out of the team next year...
@toodsf1 Are you saying that Petrov fighted for 2 points? Petrow knew in this moment that next year he's going to drive the Renault, so why this unnecesary fight? Maybe Petrov had to work more in other races, instead of destroy his car hahahaahahah
@toodsf1 Is not let him to pass, is that if Alonso atacks in one turn, I think Petrov shouldn´t close him, for example, and he did a lots of things like this in that race...
én felipét világbajnoknak tartom! biztos vagyok benne,hogy glock elegete hamiltont hogy ő lehesen a bajonk.. én utálak hamilton most is ki lökted massát én nem kaptál büntetést. ekkor lökteki massát 2011.07.10
If only this had shown glocks team mate trulli going just as slowly for no good reason apart from NEITHER HAD PITTED, SO WERE ON DRY TYRES ON A WET TRACK, but that might contradict your view of a fix now might it.
pathetic people that think this are completely retarded. Glock was on DRY tires in the pouring rain, he limped around the track and was lucky to finish. By all means, if you think you could have done better, I'm sure there's some F1 teams that could use the talent....
Dear uploader, please take my advice. You can watch football, basketball, ping pong or whatever else you want..just stop watching formula 1..you have no idea, its not for you. With love..
Yes you've done well here mate, a shitty driver tracker that shows nothing of how much Glock was ice skating around on his DRY tyres in the RAIN against Lewis on INTERS, you massive penis. Ask yourself, what the fuck does Glock gain from having Lewis be champion instead of Felipe? Nothing, now fuck off, you erect penis.
If you think Glock let him past your stupid, check out the on board footage of Glock and see him struggling, and if you watched this race you would know that the 2nd half of the track was wetter. If you think he stayed on slicks to help him out too this is also stupid as he would've lost a place when pitting and staying out on slicks let him gain a place! Anyone saying Glock let him past is a cry baby and is blind to the truth!
@ricka006 Don't play the racist note, pal! Lewis has shown numerous times (just like Alonso in Abu Dhabi this year - complaining about Petrov's totally appropriate and excellent driving) that he has internal issues. When you crash into your nearest WDC competitor (vs Kimi in Canada '08) instead of the guy right in front of you, when you weave like a MANIAC (vs Petrov in Malaysia '10) etc., there surely IS something wrong about you. I will gladly applaud to Hamilton, when and if he behaves!!!
@ricka006 He's extremely skilled, no doubt about that, but his dirty stuff has just made him look like a joke. A very bad one... Like early Schumacher (who in my eyes is OK ever since about 2001/2002 - I am a major critic of his dirty moves - including the 2000 Spa wheel touching just after Eau Rouge, but I e.g. believe Monaco '06 was a genuine driving error and this year, he was actually correct about passing Alonso there in the last corner - the rules allowed for his interpretation, IMHO).
really annoys me when you have all these people saying shit about lewis, and how he didnt deserve to win the championship, and how glock let him pass, your only saying that because that was his second year in f1 and he is the first black driver to ever win the championship. if glock had gone any faster he would of crashed, so he had to go slow, if u watch the video properly, u can blatenly see that everytime he puts a little bit of throtle down, he has oversteer. even on the straights.
@allleafs Well, even Massa's race engineer said: "Glock threw in the towel. Thanks for that!" When you consider all the facts (such as that some people actually went FASTER during the last lap than during the penultimate lap), Glock simply didn't have to go THAT slow. Slower? Maybe. But 16 seconds slower than his already slow lap 70? NO WAY... I hope that one day, Glock tells the truth about what really happened and WHY. To me, Massa is '08 Champ, just like Senna is '89 Champ.
@Goatmasterfunk Glock knew full well that the less he pushes, the worse it gets (losing tyre/tire temperature and grip) - yet he decided not to push AT ALL. He's no bloody rookie in the wet, as he demonstrated in Italy '08. He turned a LOT of INFORMED people against himself by doing what he did. I understand you defend your compatriot, but I honestly believe that Lewis did not deserve the title in '08 and Glock did a wrong thing in Brazil '08 on purpose (for whatever reason).
@jakubkrcma man just try with your car if you have one to drive 120-140kmh on raining streat and tell me how it felt when you hit the break, and if you did it like really slow or just hit like idiot... i mean i was driving CAR 130kmh on fucking streat on rain and it felt like i am driving on water... how can you say that he could go faster or slower when even you don't know how is to drive fucking F1 bolid with tires for dry that fast on rain track... when you do that, then you can complain here
@cepi1990 Hi, I understand your point, but when you try GP4, F1 2010 etc., it's pretty clear that 1:44 with dry tyres and dry setup on a wet track is SUBSTANTIALLY slower than what is possible. Of course it is VERY slow driving in those conditions and you're struggling ALL THE TIME, but it IS possible. The only explanation I would accept from Timo is that he was stressed out by the circumstances (desperately trying to keep a very good race position on wrong tyres). The car could go faster.
@cepi1990 Felipe Massa's RACE ENGINEER, Rob Smedley, said: "...until Glock threw in the towel. Thanks for that!" This means that Glock gave up, according to Rob's opinion (and mine). Kovalainen and Webber were BEHIND Glock and the ratio of lap 71/70 on intermediate (not even full wet) tyres was 1.000 for BOTH of them. If the conditions changed SO MUCH and SO SUDDENLY (Glock's ratio was 1.189 - he slowed by 26 s in 2 laps!), these two drivers would be affected, despite being on the right tyres.
@jakubkrcma Of course he didn't....Did you AT LEAST see how much faster the cars on intermediate tyres were over the cars on the slicks were in the 2008 Belgian gp? Kimi tried driving slightly more aggressively on the dry tyres....where did he end up? That's right, in the wall.
@nitroboost8765 Hi, having watched all the GsP in 1978-2010 (they're all on the net right now) and many hours of footage from seasons/races before that, yes, I have seen many different cars do pretty well on pure slicks (even without grooves). First off, Kimi fought for victory in a race he won 3 times in a row before that, he pushed like a maniac (the OTHER extreme compared to Timo's attitude). Secondly, Kimi crashed after going off the track because of trying to go around a stupid backmarker!
@nitroboost8765 In Spa, on the last lap, the best guy on wet tyres (Timo Glock) was 8.29 % off his fastest lap in the race, while the best guy on dry tyres (Mark Webber) was 21.63 % off his fastest lap in the race. In Brazil, the best guy on wet tyres (Heikki Kovalainen) was 14.47 % off his fastest lap, while the best guy on dry tyres (Timo Glock) was 41.41 % off his fastest lap in the race. That's like if Kimi (holder of the fastest lap in Spa 2008) did 2:32.634 on dry tyres in the wet!
@jakubkrcma Listen, mate, the rain was heavier in Brazil than it was in Spa....The circuits are also, radically different..One can speculate on how the championship ended up in Lewis's favour....Timo was still the fastest driver on dry tyres
@nitroboost8765 Of course we can only speculate - the only guy who KNOWS (not just thinks) what happened is Timo. But it was surely very strange. Still, about the heavier rain - the biggest problem I see is that inters had nearly the same time in the last two laps, while Timo and Jarno went YEARS slower on the last lap. The onboard footage shows Timo basically gave up - it looks like he tried to make it look like going faster was not possible... He said afterwards that he did hist best. Dunno...
@jakubkrcma It sure looked like he was trying his best to keep it on track....Had he tried anything more he might have made himself look inebriated lol...
@nitroboost8765 He used too low gears (3rd and 4th) and let the back end step out over and over again. He is EXCEPTIONALLY good in the wet, which makes it even more obvious. Of course he could just crack under stress (P4 was very good for Toyota in 2008, their season average was over P8 - counting the finishes only) or something, but I SERIOUSLY doubt that. He has proven that he's capable of delivering (e.g. the fastest wet last lap in Spa 2008, just 8.29 % slower than his fastest dry).
@jakubkrcma Then again, that was his first visit to the Brazilian gp track...He had raced Spa in Gp2 and other lower formulae before....But yeah, he sure set the stage for an amazingly dramatic finish to the championship!!
@nitroboost8765 Yep, just a few races, but the important thing is that Interlagos is a classic circuit and all F1 drivers have countless hours of various simulation/game experience there through the 1990's-2000's, so when they actually arrive, all they have to get used to is basically the bumpiness, because they already know the layout etc. by heart in advance. Personally, I couldn't care less about the new tracks (compared to the "old" ones). They can be fun, but I love the atmo of the "old"...
@jakubkrcma It's pretty cool watching rookies drive on circuits they have no professional experience on...If they haven't gotta hang on the circuit by the time its race day, they can sure make themselves look really silly! Timo did a pretty good job here though...
@nitroboost8765 Timo was absolutely amazing in Brazil 2008, until the last lap... He set the second fastest lap of the race, just behind Massa (Trulli set 5th fastest, behind Kimi and Lewis). He was also the fastest guy of all in laps 11, 32, 67, 68, and 69 (that's three consecutive laps in wet weather, while Trulli was 4th, 6th, and 6th fastest). Trulli was fastest of all in laps 9, 40, 51, and 63. Nakajima pitted for wets at the end of lap 62, Fis 63, Hei, Bar, Ros, Bou, Kub, and Sut 64...
To all the doubters - the race engineer of Felipe Massa said in a recent interview (in the "Brazilian Qualifying build up" for the 2010 Brazilian GP): "(Massa was World Champion) FOR ABOUT 5 CORNERS UNTIL GLOCK THREW IN THE TOWEL. THANKS FOR THAT!" So here you have it! It is not JUST me (and many other people who know a thing or two about F1) saying that Glock LOST POSITIONS ON PURPOSE! The ONLY question remaining is: WHY???
@rureadyboots I think your right, i mean just look at the standing going into the final 2 races of this year, its all down to the car........ow wait there is 3 different teams still in the running so clearly its not the car you retard
@rureadyboots In formula 1 there are 3 different cars, generally we reefer the cars as being in a field. There is the back field, witch normally consists of new teams. Then there is the mid field, witch is normally teams that are struggling or new teams that are in there second or third season. And finally you get the front runners that is mainly the teams that have been in it from the beginning or that is just getting it right.
@rureadyboots Granted the car is a big part of the sport but its all about how a driver uses that power and form. Jenson was in a mid field car and then a new team bought the car and made it a front runner. Jenson is now again in a font runner car and thats why he was in the running nearly to the end.
@rureadyboots Your clearly just a complete moron. At no point did i say that its all down to the best car. If you used your small brain for just a minute you might just understand what i was trying to say. Im not saying there is only 3 cars in the championship, im saying there is 3 different type a groups and in this group there are about 6/7 cars, from different teams that are almost the same some might have better downforce and some might have better straight line speed.
@rureadyboots In the end of the lap they are the same. The qualifying will give you the basic field layout top 10 are normally the front runners, from 10 to 17 is the mid field and the rest is the back field or back markers. If its down to the car and not the driver, why cant team mates, who have the same car end up with the same result as the other driver explain that you clunge.
@rureadyboots oh hell yea its all about skill! Heikki Kovalainen was in the SAME equipment as Hamilton in 2008, but did very pooly besides a single win. The car does help, but it comes down to skill. BTW what sport do you think has a point? superbikes? theyre the same dam thing! it takes skill to ride those bikes at 300kph just as much as it does to drive an F1 car at 300kph. hypocrite -_-"
Beyond the stupidity of the conspiracy in the first place, this video is not at all accurate. This video makes it look like Glock was way ahead in the hairpins, but if you watch Hamilton's onboard, you can see Glock barely ahead as they enter the first right hairpin...
Hamilton is a good racer and won in 2008, but for me Massa deserved the championship more than him, the problem was Ferrari that committed a lot of mistakes during the championship.
if not Hamilton and vettel -wet tyres, wet ttrack=more grip.Glock didnt let Hamilton past, he lost loads of time because of the dry tyres he was on, and if you look at the footage, another passes glock so he loses a few positions, no conspiracy just upset Brazilians moaning coz Massa didnt win.Massa will have his chance maybe in 2011 so chin up guys.
@fastezza The point of the debate is not the general question of suitability of dry vs intermediate tyres for wet conditions. The point is the SUDDEN and INSANE loss of Glock's pace JUST when needed by Hamilton. The track's condition allowed MANY people to keep or even improve their lap times during the last lap of the race so Glock's on-track behavior looks obviously intentional. The track WAS NOT getting worse or not THAT much worse. Otherwise even people on the right tyres would be slower.
@jakubkrcma i understand bu on here there is a video of glocks last lap on board and you can clearly see glock struggling to accelerate which meant he was slow. just bad luck really.
@fastezza And I am not a Brazilian or a Massa fan. I am, however, a massive Hamilton anti-fan, because of his on-track actions (and some inexcusable errors not worth a world champion). Just like I used to be a Schumacher anti-fan, when he did dirty stuff. But he's got OK (I, for example, don't think he cheated in Monaco '06 - the same thing happens to me RIGHT there all the time - well, once every couple hundred quick laps anyway). Hopefully, Lewis will too, one day (not this season though)...
@jakubkrcma i have to disagree with you about monaco 06 mate, Schumi (for me) had no reason to stop turning if he had kept his initial lock on he would have been round easily, its uncharacteristic of him to make such an easy mistake. Yeah most drivers can make mistakes but its very rare they do. Take Jenson for insttance, in his early career he made quite a few and now is one of the best (if not the best) and smoothest drivers in F1 today.
Lets be fair. I completly dislike Hamilton but Glock gets in front of Hamilton and Vettel because he didnt change his tyres for the last few rainy laps. The others did it and lost time. Glock was behind both drivers before the rain started. And the rain got stronger so its not a big surprise but a dramatic end. One corner left and Hamilton would have lost two world championship in a row in the last race.
Anybody who questions Timo Glock should simpy watch the onboard camera of his last lap, which is available on youtube. After watching that, the only ones who could think that he wasn't going as fast as the weather allowed are complete imbeciles and should seriously consider a vasectomy so that their deficient DNA does not continue to pollute the gene pool.
the only reason glock was ahead of hamilton in the first place was because he didnt pit and gambled on it not raining. the look on the farrari garage was priceless though
@pinkfloyddwc yeah, thats what the video shows. the guy who uploaded the video either doesnt speak portuguese or misunderstood the whole point of the representation. ex. frame 5: "at the juncao hill lack of traction in glock tires who hadnt stoped to change tires makes the diference so vettel and hamilton overtake him ending massas dream,"
Acho que, independente se é o piloto por qual torço que é o Felipe Massa, ou qualquer outro brasileiro, deveriam os dois envolvidos tomar bandeira preta e serem desclassificados da corrida, além de punição, mais multa bem pesada aí sim acabariam essas falcatruas e benefícios para que esses &%¨$^*#%] que nem vou por os nomes aqui ou desistam ou saiam da Formula 1.
u bellieve wot u want adam lewis won championship u just cant handle loseing mate and vali i dont like most germany but u are right u not all the same there are sum gd germans
This video is represents the civiil dilema of the right to free speech.
Everyone should have the right to voice their opinion, the only problem is some people are simply waaay too stupid to have a balance opinion and only mis-inform other stupid people to join their side of the argument. Meantime in all the distraction, the things that are truly important suffer.
Solution?
Kill all stupid people first, THEN allow free speech. ;)
I was on that track in 1997. And nothing has changed. That last corner is so damn steep it is difficult to walk up it. Driving on it in the rain with dry tires would be very slow and difficult.
noob u dont watch f1 that much do u mate if u did u would know glock was the only 1 on wet tires which means when u go around coners u are relly slow on a dry track and in straight lines u got ass much speed noob lewis won it fair and Sqaure u proley a brazilian / germany noob who cant handle the fact a uk driver is world champion and ahaha bk 2 bk uk drivers world champions congrats lewis and jensen and brawn uk all the way ^_^
@ITIMBERLANDI ur obviously a crap lier cus ur boyfriend (timo) was on slick u dick head a bet u didn't even watch the race chatting all that shit about straight line and stuff while timo was on slick and there was a dry line u can even see it on bad quality vid and then timo bastard celebration after woods to gave it away that he fancies lewis he probably thought lewis would bum him or something but it looks like ur safe and timo got bumpt seeing as lewis hamilton with nicole
Adam786 You retard! Obviously you didn't watch the race, as if you did you would have realized that it was the closing 5 laps when it began to rain heavily, there was NO DRY LINE during the final laps, infact by the time the race finished it was almost a monsoon.
Judging by your stupid, childish comments, you have very limited intelligence to go with your dreadful grammar and spelling. Lol @ you
Don't put all germans into the same boat. I am german but still, I've always been a fan of the present best driver. Which is, since 2007, definitely Lewis Hamilton. It will be difficult for anyone else to match his skill in near future. I don't think that Button, Vettel (who's currently having a waaay better car) or anyone else can be better than Lewis. I'll keep my finger's crossed, that he won't have so much bad luck in the next races like before. Season's still long =D
How much you write. Hamilton still will be an champion. Think of your health. And there are much better racing games every tried netkar pro? Thats a real simulation.
Netkar pro? Never heard about it, will take a look. But I believe that to emulate the conditions as close to reality as possible for Formula 1 in wet weather, GP4 is still sufficient. And yes, my words won't change a thing about the 2008 championship outcome, but that doesn't mean I will just swallow the official version when I have a good enough reason to think it is incorrect. We're not FIA officials here on youtube, we are just net citizens expressing their opinions... Which may be wrong...
BTW: In Abu Dhabi, Vettel has shown how much BETTER he is than Hamilton. Hamilton had a much better car (see the qualifying), but Vettel managed to keep the distance in the first stint with a worse car even with a couple extra kilos. Hamilton is not championship material to me. Massa, yep (won three consecutive races in Turkey). Raikkonen, yep (won 4, nearly 5, of the last 5 races in Spa). Vettel, definitely (amazing talent). But Hamilton's results are always JUST adequate to his car's...
Your an idiot, Hamiltons break was broken as has been confiremed. More than that he's been outperforming that car all season. Vettle cannot overtake to save his life, the boy is a prang magnet as well, car destorying recked his championship more than his engine. Also two things did you see Truli's lap time on those tyre's it suffered equaly, If Glock hadn't stayed out on said tyres he would have been behind Hamilton anyway an finnaly Glock is a racer no racer gives away two places for love nor $
Hamilton's brake hadn't been broken all the time. Vettel kept up with him even while the brakes worked well. Trulli's lap time, on the first sight, was similar to Glock's, but the reality is that in sectors 1 and 2, Trulli was a lot slower than Glock (like in the entire race), but magically, Glock was even much slower than Trulli in the last sector of the race. As you said, racers don't give away places, which is why I am shocked by Glock's actions near the end of the 2008 Brazilian grand prix.
No the McLarens base pace was perfectly suited to Abu Dahbi. Kovy looked set for near the front of the grid. Hamilton was 6 tenths in front of Vettle for qualifying. Much more than the fuel effect. He couldn't stop the car from the first corner, his brakes where broken from the first corner.
The telemetry shows pretty much everything to the pit crew IN REAL TIME. A failing brake pad would directly cause R/L rear wheel speed values to differ greatly, affecting longitudinal stability. This would a) be crucial information to communicate to the driver - they would radio Lewis immediately (not in lap ~19) and b) the car would possibly not be allowed to continue for safety concerns (which is what actually happened, but only later in the race - when the brake ACTUALLY failed). LH = liar
Lewis CLAIMS that it became obvious after 3 or 4 laps that there is a problem with his right rear brake pad, BUT he did not communicate with the crew about it (e.g. to check or fix it during the pit stop or about a possible retirement due to safety). And MUCH later, when his race engineer radioed him, he said: "we MAY have a right rear brake PROBLEM". Lewis often says a lie to cover his or the team's image or to keep undeserved points/positions... There are enough examples of that.
And since it is common practice among racers to give away places due to team orders, it is imaginable that "other" circumstances (such as money, friendship , hatred, etc.) could have a huge influence as well...
its only common practice when a driver is in the place in front of you. Hence Massa's first Turkey victory.
Look at Glock when hamilton crosses the line, he has four wheel horizontal drift. thats the sing of a man with literally sweet fa for grip. He couldn't stop Vettle he couldn't stop Hamilton. He made a gamble, it lost him two places but gained him 1. He didn't and wouldn't have handed the championship to Hamilton. No racer would want be handed a championship and glock would understand it
long rule HAMMY timo glock had wrong tyres on thats why lewis drove past him ,DUID U NOT SEE THE RACE THATS WHY U ONLY HAVE A CRAP VIDEO TAKE IT OF YOUY MUNG
If you drive an Formula 1 car on slicks in the wet on place 4? I think if you have an couple of laps to go? I think 99.9% would just drive to the finish and hope to hold this place...Making an pitstop would just drop you futher back. And why would Glock let Hamilton pass? For Glock there is nothing in it. For his team also.
And what Jakubkrcma say's like The ULTIMATE evidence: I did a WET run with a DEFAULT DRY SETUP with SOFT DRY TIRES. You compare an game with the real? hahaha..
Yes, I compare a "game" with reality. A "game" that F1 drivers accepted as being VERY close to reality at the game's launch in Australia 2002. Also, the cars were completely different in 2001 (which is the season GP4 simulates). STILL, the principle stays the same - wrong tires = worse laptimes, BUT what Glock demonstrated was an insult to motor racing. Even ex-F1 drivers, who spoke on TV during the race admitted he could have "run" to the finish line and still keep 4th position.
First off, GP4 was made in close cooperation with an F1 team (Arrows). Secondly, even the old GP2 was used by Jacques Villeneuve as serious preparation/training. The "game's" maker, Geoff Crammond is not originally a game developer, but a physicist, whose Revs Formula 3 simulation back in 1985 was already VERY advanced as far as physics are concerned. In GP3, wet weather racing was good, in GP4, it is even better/closer to reality. If you ever drove a kart on a track in the wet, you can confirm.
A quote from wiki about GP3: Weather - Although its predecessors had featured wet races, GP3 added variable rainfall, i.e. the track's wetness changing throughout the course of a race, and varying levels of wetness at different points on the track. It also improved the driving model used when driving in wet conditions. And sorry, REVS was originally launched in 1984 for the BBC Micro. It was out for C64 (which I had) in 1986.
This is a fake ! Glock didn't let hamilton be champion ! he's just a poor shit, he did an error and he went out of the track. Glock hate hamilton, he nerver let hamilton overtake
I will answer with a simple question: Why did Rubens let Michael through in the last corner in Austia (despite loud and clear team orders)? The most logical answer to both questions is the same: because Rubens and Timo wanted to show that if they really wanted, they could have held the position until the finish. Only the circumstances were different.
And one more thing - as Kovalainen BLINDED Raikkonen with fuel on Sunday, McLaren mechanics should have pulled the hose, NOT guys from a 3rd team! I would penalise for that as well! When Massa ripped the hose last year, Ferrari guys ran all the way to fix it! I HATE INJUSTICE!!! McLaren and Ferrari are still fighting for constructors championship position so outside help is COMPLETELY unsportsmanlike! If Ferrari mechanics helped Heikki, it would be a friendly gesture, but a third team shouldn't!
And the best comes now - I HAD NOT KNOWN UNTIL N.O.W. THAT GLOCK AND ROSBERG WERE HAMILTON'S ONLY FRIENDS AMONG F1 DRIVERS! Glock was Hamilton's buddy from GP2! Ha! Now this is the last piece of the puzzle that I needed. You believe stories and fairytales of impossibly low grip instead... Your problem... But to me, it is obvious - not money or a secret McLaren deal or anything - but cross-team FRIENDSHIP! Teammate cooperation is normal and expected, cross-team cooperation is basically treason!
Firstly, there are some people who agree with me. Secondly, even if the ratio is one to a million, I am entitled to have my opinions AND to share them. That's why we actually have discussions under the videos - and there are even videos, where everybody agrees with each other. I very often share the majority's opinion, but sometimes I am a lone wolf (maybe even howling at the wrong Moon, who knows?). I have the right to express myself just like you do. Regards, Jakub
On topic, Timo claimed he went in 4th gear to limit wheelspin and that he just wanted to bring the car home. Can you SERIOUSLY imagine someone being 4th, just one step from the podium, and then calmly letting people through, losing valuable points - nearly ending pointless (at that INSANELY slow pace). The second sector, where he lost SO MUCH time, is the slowest sector, where speeds are even normally VERY slow, especially in the wet. And then he simply GAVE UP in the third sector...
BTW: I just tried WET Brazil with all sorts of tires (soft and hard dry, intermediate, soft and hard wet, monsoon) in GP4 (default setup, keyboard) for fun. The best-worst spread was about 1:27.2 - 1:38.4 (just a couple attempts with each tire type). This corellates perfectly with the estimate of 1:38 in the banned video. Also, a VERY funny fact - you can complete a lap in about 1:40 in 1ST GEAR in the dry (default setup - 1st try 1:41.6)!!! Glock simply cheated! Tell us why, Timo!
Tried another run in the dry in 1st gear now. It was far from perfect (default setup, keyboard, lots of small errors). In the 1st sector, Timo's time was about 24.8, my time was 32.920 (~32 % slower). In the 2nd sector, my time was 36.197, Timo's time was 54.7 (TIMO WAS ~51 % SLOWER). In the 3rd sector, Timo's time was 25, my time was 32.215 (~28 % slower). Can you SERIOUSLY imagine Timo being ~18.5 seconds slower in A SINGLE SECTOR, especially when he was ~15.3 seconds FASTER in the others?
Also, his teammate with the same tires did the last sector in about 22.8 or 2.2 seconds faster than Timo. So my time was actually over 41 % slower in the last sector than what Timo's car was capable of and not just over 28 %. Can you believe him being over 51 % slower in one sector and me being over 32 and 41 % slower in the other two (despite the obvious track layout differences)? The safety car did about 1:55 in the wet, which means it would probably match Timo's wet time in the dry. Ha ha ha
SO! I tried running IN 1ST GEAR with DRY tires in the WET. My second sector during my first attempt was 43.684 s, Timo's time 54.7 (OVER 25 % SLOWER). HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Either he went off the track (which he obviously did NOT) or he CHEATED = WENT SLOW INTENTIONALLY!!! There is NO BLOODY WAY IN HELL he could GENUINELY lose over 11 seconds against my first 1ST GEAR attempt in just ONE SECTOR with "comparable" weather and tires. He could just leave the car and RUN faster. ;-)
The ULTIMATE evidence: I did a WET run with a DEFAULT DRY SETUP with SOFT DRY TIRES (this time using any gears, not just 1st). The traction control was off, of course. So, I had very little downforce, longer gears, completely unsuitable tires, and no traction assistance. Just like Timo in reality, but actually more difficult, because steering and throttle/braking are basically ON/OFF on the keyboard. Still, my first attempt 2nd sector time was 41.236 seconds. Timo was ~13.5 s (~32 %) slower!!!
How can you think that Hamilton didn't deserve the world title, Massa certainly didn't, may i remind you all that Massa would barely have been in contention for the world title if Raikkonen hadn't let him past in china to claim 2nd place.
What? That's regular teamplay near the end of the season. EVERY team does that! When one driver is substantially more likely to win the drivers championship, the other driver helps. Massa supported Raikkonen in 2007, Barichello supported Michael basically all the time etc. etc. Racing between teammates usually takes place only until one is either without a mathematical chance or substantially disadvantaged. With Michael and Rubens, it was even beyond this, obviously... McLaren '07 was too close.
As I said, it was too close in 2007, so there was no reason for Alonso or Hamilton to help each other for the sake of the team. On the contrary, they fought each other to the last race as expected and reasonable. In 2008, Kovalainen was not in a position to help Hamilton (i.e. he wasn't usually right in front of Hamilton). Kovalainen was a poor driver for the car he was given in 2008. I hope we all can agree with that... Even the cheater Briatore called him anti-Alonso back in around 2007...
Letting your teammate through when you cannot win the title and he can is completely understandable and normal. That's why you're in the same team. If there was no constructors championship and all teams had just one driver, then it would be a different situation. It is good to have multiple drivers in a team, because that allows us to judge relative driver performance. With one driver per team, it would be COMPLETELY impossible to compare drivers.
For example Fisi and Force India vs Ferrari. In one race, he challenges for victory (finishing under a second behind the winner), in another he's around the back of the field. All because of different driveability (which is not the same as power or aero or any standard measurable aspect of car performance). All of a sudden, Badoer doesn't look THAT bad, when a near-winner in another team looks like a backmarker in Ferrari... BRAVO RAIKKONEN!!! I bet Lewis is not sleeping well, if Kimi gets back.
Congratulations to Jenson and Ross. Both titles in the team's first year are an amazing result. You can say Jenson is not a worthy champion, but you just don't win 6 out of the first 7 races without skill - beating the most experienced driver in F1 history in the same car in the process. It is just natural that after gaining a substantial lead, you start driving defensively and conservatively - be it in a race or in a championship. Also congratulations to Mark Webber for his 2nd win.
Only Jenson, Kimi and Mark finished on the podium in 4 consecutive races this year (so far). However, today's Mark's victory was tainted a bit by him not giving Kimi one car width in lap 1, while Kimi was already too close to be able to do anything about it - ruining his race. I don't think Kimi would win today, but a podium was quite possible, if not sure. Kimi's pusheroo in the first corner may have had shared guilt, but then Mark just screwed him. But then Mark drove amazingly!
Mark also won the DHL Fastest Lap Award today (3 fastest laps this season - no one can beat him in the remaining race, only tie - but later, so Mark is the winner of the trophy Kimi had for the last two years). Congratulations for that as well! Few people realize that last year, Kimi had 10 fastest laps in 12 consecutive races, UNBELIEVABLE PERFORMANCE! Wow! And the car was FAR from dominant (unlike Michael's in 2004). Kimi had at least 5 direct competitors in cars capable of fastest laps.
And of course when people claim that Glock's and Trulli's final lap times were almost identical, that's BS. Trulli's sector 1 and 2 were slower by SECONDS, but MIRACULOUSLY Glock's last sector was even MUCH slower than Trulli's, which BTW is not in line with the "rapidly worsening conditions" scenario FABULATED by some people! Actually, THREE drivers drove FASTER in lap 71 than in lap 70!!!!!!! That would OF COURSE be impossible if the rain was getting stronger, REGARDLESS TO TIRE TYPE!!!!
that is ridiculous glock AND TRULLI had slick tires on everyone else had inters! it started to rain again on the last lap which means glock AND TRULLI both slowed by a lot i dont know if you've ever watched F1 before but when it rains and you're on slick tires you have to slow down or you crash. if he didnt slow down and he crashed hamilton would have still been world champion. you can believe what you want but there where two cars on slicks and BOTH HAD to slow down! hamilton deserved to win!
@xXx0georgia0xXx its not a matter of crashing on the slicks, a massive reason they are slower is because they dont have as much grip, they slow down on wet tyres aswell
the idea that glock gave hamilton the position on purpose is rediculous, but let's say it's not. let's say mclaren paid him to let hamilton pass..... WHO CARES?? ferrari have been getting away with murder in f1 for years. it's about time they got screwed for a change. get over it.
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toodsf1 1 week ago
ozzyboy - teaching Ferrari fagboys about F1 detail is like teaching a woman a forward defensive cricket stroke - a waste of time :)
michael88863 3 weeks ago
The fact that ferrari fans are still bitching about this makes me soooo happy!
yes, yes tell me more about the pain.....
flipsidedogchop 2 months ago
FUCK OFF WHO EVER MADE THIS VIDEO Glock didnt let him win
XxLoLMonstaxX 2 months ago
If you think Glock let Hamilton through deliberately, please do the human race a favour and don't reproduce, we don't need you in the gene pool.
fish998765432 2 months ago
Yeah he let him through, thats explains why he lost another position other than one to Hamilton didn't he?
xRapidClaWx 3 months ago
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toodsf1 3 months ago
You were a stupid cunt when you uploaded this drivel in 2008, you are still a stupid cunt today, and it seems almost certain you will still be a stupid cunt in the future.
You know why? Cos you're a stupid cunt.
defjam99b 4 months ago
@defjam99b ur the most stupidest cunt of the cuntes... like a cunts motherfucking cunter... u got the joke of my comment? theres no joke itz just too stupid... like ur comment is... got it? i dont think so becuz ur so a cunt...
BirGurbetKusu 3 months ago
Kubica overtook both vettel and hamilton with slick 3 laps before the end. he remained in front of them till the finish!!!!!!!!!!!!! even in last corner he took enough speed to stay in front of them. F1 is a circus!!! come on Hamilton touching a button in 2007 and losing so many places?! The real sport died when money came in it...
vonPelger 4 months ago
@vonPelger So, u dont know that Kubica switch to wet tyres on lap 66? Well, it would be better if I dont tell u anything about the fairy tooth..
frajalo 4 months ago
@AIfonzoPizzaBoy well he didn't stay out in order to help massa. also what the uploader failed to realise is that it only really started to hammer it down on the last 2 laps. first lap would have completely sucked the temps out of his tyres so on his last lap he would have had no tyre temperature on a damp track, he did very well.
hamiltonlegend24 4 months ago
@ozzyboi86 Ferreri Rent boys!!! Love it. Wouldn't buy one of the things even if I had the money.
VCF1981 5 months ago
Forza FERRARI
ScuderiaF3rrari 6 months ago
if you ferrari rent boys knew anything about formula 1 you will know that using dry tires on a wet track is like driving on ice
ozzyboi86 6 months ago 7
Toyota gambled and let both Glock and Trulli stay out on dry tires.
Look a TRULLI's lap time wit the dry tires. Then you'll realize he was as slow as Glock.
Check mate.
Funny how they also thought Petrov was paid by Red Bull to block Alonso. Hahaha! Idiots, they fought over position and if he couldn't get past him then it was his problem.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 7 months ago 10
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth Yes, Petrov was helping Red Bull for a simply reason: Red Bull has Renault engine, so is better for Renault that "Red Bull Renault" win the Championship, for earn more money and for appear in the TV's.
1FORZATLETI9 4 months ago
@1FORZATLETI9 Vettel didn't let Hamilton to overtake him in 2008 Brasil. And he was in Torro Rosso, which had Ferrari engine...:D
How did Petrov help Red Bull? By keeping his position? Is it forbidden? All this gibberish comes from desperation that Alonso didn't win last year.
whalerofthemoon 3 months ago
@whalerofthemoon Well, I think is different, because Vettel wants to finish in a good position for going to Red Bull next season, and for Petrov the team said to he to stop Alonso in race or if not, Petrov can be out of the team next year...
1FORZATLETI9 3 months ago
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toodsf1 1 week ago
@toodsf1 Are you saying that Petrov fighted for 2 points? Petrow knew in this moment that next year he's going to drive the Renault, so why this unnecesary fight? Maybe Petrov had to work more in other races, instead of destroy his car hahahaahahah
1FORZATLETI9 1 week ago
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toodsf1 1 week ago
@toodsf1 Is not let him to pass, is that if Alonso atacks in one turn, I think Petrov shouldn´t close him, for example, and he did a lots of things like this in that race...
1FORZATLETI9 1 week ago
Obviously made by a Ferarri fan.
Btw, I'm not a Hamilton fan, but if you look at the last lap from Glock's car you see he is on DRY tyres.
blainyrules 7 months ago
good on ya @blainyrules, you heard the man DRY tyres
Albear20 7 months ago
én felipét világbajnoknak tartom! biztos vagyok benne,hogy glock elegete hamiltont hogy ő lehesen a bajonk.. én utálak hamilton most is ki lökted massát én nem kaptál büntetést. ekkor lökteki massát 2011.07.10
bmw1062 8 months ago
"OnBoard clips from Glock during the Final lap at Brazil"
look at this, heres your answer
Bofatutube 8 months ago
fuck hamilton
nan0vapor 9 months ago
If only this had shown glocks team mate trulli going just as slowly for no good reason apart from NEITHER HAD PITTED, SO WERE ON DRY TYRES ON A WET TRACK, but that might contradict your view of a fix now might it.
Almond19912 9 months ago
pathetic people that think this are completely retarded. Glock was on DRY tires in the pouring rain, he limped around the track and was lucky to finish. By all means, if you think you could have done better, I'm sure there's some F1 teams that could use the talent....
atjays 10 months ago
Dear uploader, please take my advice. You can watch football, basketball, ping pong or whatever else you want..just stop watching formula 1..you have no idea, its not for you. With love..
idikitos 10 months ago
Yes you've done well here mate, a shitty driver tracker that shows nothing of how much Glock was ice skating around on his DRY tyres in the RAIN against Lewis on INTERS, you massive penis. Ask yourself, what the fuck does Glock gain from having Lewis be champion instead of Felipe? Nothing, now fuck off, you erect penis.
jaryd12345 11 months ago
Does the guy who posted this video still lives? Or is he dead because he's so f***ing stupid?
Kees257 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ferrari fans are fucking retarded!
flipsidedogchop 1 year ago
If you think Glock let him past your stupid, check out the on board footage of Glock and see him struggling, and if you watched this race you would know that the 2nd half of the track was wetter. If you think he stayed on slicks to help him out too this is also stupid as he would've lost a place when pitting and staying out on slicks let him gain a place! Anyone saying Glock let him past is a cry baby and is blind to the truth!
fresky74 1 year ago
and also glock didnt have hardly any downforce on that car,
ricka006 1 year ago
@ricka006 Don't play the racist note, pal! Lewis has shown numerous times (just like Alonso in Abu Dhabi this year - complaining about Petrov's totally appropriate and excellent driving) that he has internal issues. When you crash into your nearest WDC competitor (vs Kimi in Canada '08) instead of the guy right in front of you, when you weave like a MANIAC (vs Petrov in Malaysia '10) etc., there surely IS something wrong about you. I will gladly applaud to Hamilton, when and if he behaves!!!
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@ricka006 He's extremely skilled, no doubt about that, but his dirty stuff has just made him look like a joke. A very bad one... Like early Schumacher (who in my eyes is OK ever since about 2001/2002 - I am a major critic of his dirty moves - including the 2000 Spa wheel touching just after Eau Rouge, but I e.g. believe Monaco '06 was a genuine driving error and this year, he was actually correct about passing Alonso there in the last corner - the rules allowed for his interpretation, IMHO).
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
really annoys me when you have all these people saying shit about lewis, and how he didnt deserve to win the championship, and how glock let him pass, your only saying that because that was his second year in f1 and he is the first black driver to ever win the championship. if glock had gone any faster he would of crashed, so he had to go slow, if u watch the video properly, u can blatenly see that everytime he puts a little bit of throtle down, he has oversteer. even on the straights.
ricka006 1 year ago
WOW!! At 1 min Glock clearly slows down a lot! Like WOW! WOW! That's just...that's very strange.
allleafs 1 year ago
@allleafs Ehhh after watching the onboard it's clearly way too wet for the dry tires.
allleafs 1 year ago
@allleafs Well, even Massa's race engineer said: "Glock threw in the towel. Thanks for that!" When you consider all the facts (such as that some people actually went FASTER during the last lap than during the penultimate lap), Glock simply didn't have to go THAT slow. Slower? Maybe. But 16 seconds slower than his already slow lap 70? NO WAY... I hope that one day, Glock tells the truth about what really happened and WHY. To me, Massa is '08 Champ, just like Senna is '89 Champ.
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma retard
Goatmasterfunk 1 year ago
@Goatmasterfunk Glock knew full well that the less he pushes, the worse it gets (losing tyre/tire temperature and grip) - yet he decided not to push AT ALL. He's no bloody rookie in the wet, as he demonstrated in Italy '08. He turned a LOT of INFORMED people against himself by doing what he did. I understand you defend your compatriot, but I honestly believe that Lewis did not deserve the title in '08 and Glock did a wrong thing in Brazil '08 on purpose (for whatever reason).
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma
your so stupid, honestly.
beyblader10171 6 months ago
@beyblader10171 Thank you. :-)
jakubkrcma 6 months ago
@jakubkrcma man just try with your car if you have one to drive 120-140kmh on raining streat and tell me how it felt when you hit the break, and if you did it like really slow or just hit like idiot... i mean i was driving CAR 130kmh on fucking streat on rain and it felt like i am driving on water... how can you say that he could go faster or slower when even you don't know how is to drive fucking F1 bolid with tires for dry that fast on rain track... when you do that, then you can complain here
cepi1990 1 year ago
@cepi1990 Hi, I understand your point, but when you try GP4, F1 2010 etc., it's pretty clear that 1:44 with dry tyres and dry setup on a wet track is SUBSTANTIALLY slower than what is possible. Of course it is VERY slow driving in those conditions and you're struggling ALL THE TIME, but it IS possible. The only explanation I would accept from Timo is that he was stressed out by the circumstances (desperately trying to keep a very good race position on wrong tyres). The car could go faster.
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@cepi1990 Felipe Massa's RACE ENGINEER, Rob Smedley, said: "...until Glock threw in the towel. Thanks for that!" This means that Glock gave up, according to Rob's opinion (and mine). Kovalainen and Webber were BEHIND Glock and the ratio of lap 71/70 on intermediate (not even full wet) tyres was 1.000 for BOTH of them. If the conditions changed SO MUCH and SO SUDDENLY (Glock's ratio was 1.189 - he slowed by 26 s in 2 laps!), these two drivers would be affected, despite being on the right tyres.
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma Of course he didn't....Did you AT LEAST see how much faster the cars on intermediate tyres were over the cars on the slicks were in the 2008 Belgian gp? Kimi tried driving slightly more aggressively on the dry tyres....where did he end up? That's right, in the wall.
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Hi, having watched all the GsP in 1978-2010 (they're all on the net right now) and many hours of footage from seasons/races before that, yes, I have seen many different cars do pretty well on pure slicks (even without grooves). First off, Kimi fought for victory in a race he won 3 times in a row before that, he pushed like a maniac (the OTHER extreme compared to Timo's attitude). Secondly, Kimi crashed after going off the track because of trying to go around a stupid backmarker!
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Spa 2008 - laps 41 and 44 - Mark Webber (kept dry tyres): 1:51.593-2:13.210 (19.37 % worse) - Timo Glock (changed tyres 42/43): 1:51.559-1:59.401 (just 7.02 % worse - a RAIN MASTER!!!!!) - Nick Heidfeld (changed tyres 42/43): 1:50.057-2:01.305 (10.22 % worse) - Brazil 2008 - laps 64 and 71 - Heiki Kovalainen (changed tyres 65/66): 1:14.835-1:24.945 (13.50 % worse) - Timo Glock (kept dry tyres): 1:14.925-1:44.731 (39.78 % worse!!!!! WHERE HAS THE RAIN MASTER GONE?!?!?!?)
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 In Spa, on the last lap, the best guy on wet tyres (Timo Glock) was 8.29 % off his fastest lap in the race, while the best guy on dry tyres (Mark Webber) was 21.63 % off his fastest lap in the race. In Brazil, the best guy on wet tyres (Heikki Kovalainen) was 14.47 % off his fastest lap, while the best guy on dry tyres (Timo Glock) was 41.41 % off his fastest lap in the race. That's like if Kimi (holder of the fastest lap in Spa 2008) did 2:32.634 on dry tyres in the wet!
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma Listen, mate, the rain was heavier in Brazil than it was in Spa....The circuits are also, radically different..One can speculate on how the championship ended up in Lewis's favour....Timo was still the fastest driver on dry tyres
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Of course we can only speculate - the only guy who KNOWS (not just thinks) what happened is Timo. But it was surely very strange. Still, about the heavier rain - the biggest problem I see is that inters had nearly the same time in the last two laps, while Timo and Jarno went YEARS slower on the last lap. The onboard footage shows Timo basically gave up - it looks like he tried to make it look like going faster was not possible... He said afterwards that he did hist best. Dunno...
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma It sure looked like he was trying his best to keep it on track....Had he tried anything more he might have made himself look inebriated lol...
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 He used too low gears (3rd and 4th) and let the back end step out over and over again. He is EXCEPTIONALLY good in the wet, which makes it even more obvious. Of course he could just crack under stress (P4 was very good for Toyota in 2008, their season average was over P8 - counting the finishes only) or something, but I SERIOUSLY doubt that. He has proven that he's capable of delivering (e.g. the fastest wet last lap in Spa 2008, just 8.29 % slower than his fastest dry).
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma Then again, that was his first visit to the Brazilian gp track...He had raced Spa in Gp2 and other lower formulae before....But yeah, he sure set the stage for an amazingly dramatic finish to the championship!!
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Almost first, he raced there for Jordan in 2004.
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma Oh right, he raced for the latter half of the season.
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Yep, just a few races, but the important thing is that Interlagos is a classic circuit and all F1 drivers have countless hours of various simulation/game experience there through the 1990's-2000's, so when they actually arrive, all they have to get used to is basically the bumpiness, because they already know the layout etc. by heart in advance. Personally, I couldn't care less about the new tracks (compared to the "old" ones). They can be fun, but I love the atmo of the "old"...
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma It's pretty cool watching rookies drive on circuits they have no professional experience on...If they haven't gotta hang on the circuit by the time its race day, they can sure make themselves look really silly! Timo did a pretty good job here though...
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 Timo was absolutely amazing in Brazil 2008, until the last lap... He set the second fastest lap of the race, just behind Massa (Trulli set 5th fastest, behind Kimi and Lewis). He was also the fastest guy of all in laps 11, 32, 67, 68, and 69 (that's three consecutive laps in wet weather, while Trulli was 4th, 6th, and 6th fastest). Trulli was fastest of all in laps 9, 40, 51, and 63. Nakajima pitted for wets at the end of lap 62, Fis 63, Hei, Bar, Ros, Bou, Kub, and Sut 64...
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma That was one crazy end to the race....where did u get the telemetry from though?
nitroboost8765 1 year ago
@nitroboost8765 grandepremio . ig . com . br /inforace/
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
To all the doubters - the race engineer of Felipe Massa said in a recent interview (in the "Brazilian Qualifying build up" for the 2010 Brazilian GP): "(Massa was World Champion) FOR ABOUT 5 CORNERS UNTIL GLOCK THREW IN THE TOWEL. THANKS FOR THAT!" So here you have it! It is not JUST me (and many other people who know a thing or two about F1) saying that Glock LOST POSITIONS ON PURPOSE! The ONLY question remaining is: WHY???
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
Heres a thought F1 nerds. It does not matter who is the most skillful driver because it all depends on who has the best car. Your sport is pointless.
rureadyboots 1 year ago
@rureadyboots I think your right, i mean just look at the standing going into the final 2 races of this year, its all down to the car........ow wait there is 3 different teams still in the running so clearly its not the car you retard
FourStarKD 1 year ago
@FourStarKD Then explain why Jenson Button was shit forever then world champion? Go on I dare you.
rureadyboots 1 year ago
@rureadyboots In formula 1 there are 3 different cars, generally we reefer the cars as being in a field. There is the back field, witch normally consists of new teams. Then there is the mid field, witch is normally teams that are struggling or new teams that are in there second or third season. And finally you get the front runners that is mainly the teams that have been in it from the beginning or that is just getting it right.
FourStarKD 1 year ago
@rureadyboots Granted the car is a big part of the sport but its all about how a driver uses that power and form. Jenson was in a mid field car and then a new team bought the car and made it a front runner. Jenson is now again in a font runner car and thats why he was in the running nearly to the end.
Put that in your pipe and spoke it
FourStarKD 1 year ago
@FourStarKD I dont get your arguement when your arguement proves my point!?
rureadyboots 1 year ago
@rureadyboots Your clearly just a complete moron. At no point did i say that its all down to the best car. If you used your small brain for just a minute you might just understand what i was trying to say. Im not saying there is only 3 cars in the championship, im saying there is 3 different type a groups and in this group there are about 6/7 cars, from different teams that are almost the same some might have better downforce and some might have better straight line speed.
FourStarKD 1 year ago
@rureadyboots In the end of the lap they are the same. The qualifying will give you the basic field layout top 10 are normally the front runners, from 10 to 17 is the mid field and the rest is the back field or back markers. If its down to the car and not the driver, why cant team mates, who have the same car end up with the same result as the other driver explain that you clunge.
FourStarKD 1 year ago
@FourStarKD This is you "BLAH BLAH BLAH blaah blah" I win.
rureadyboots 1 year ago
@rureadyboots oh hell yea its all about skill! Heikki Kovalainen was in the SAME equipment as Hamilton in 2008, but did very pooly besides a single win. The car does help, but it comes down to skill. BTW what sport do you think has a point? superbikes? theyre the same dam thing! it takes skill to ride those bikes at 300kph just as much as it does to drive an F1 car at 300kph. hypocrite -_-"
PLynnJr95 1 year ago
Hamilton hijo de puta !!! glock vendido!
soyaitor9000 1 year ago 2
@soyaitor9000 Que educado. Si señor...
iagoil 1 year ago
Beyond the stupidity of the conspiracy in the first place, this video is not at all accurate. This video makes it look like Glock was way ahead in the hairpins, but if you watch Hamilton's onboard, you can see Glock barely ahead as they enter the first right hairpin...
bduddy55555 1 year ago
Hamilton is a good racer and won in 2008, but for me Massa deserved the championship more than him, the problem was Ferrari that committed a lot of mistakes during the championship.
uzer84r 1 year ago
Hahaha, hilarious video... you got one good sense of humor!
Hamilton king =)
BobTheGamerUK 1 year ago
asshole....it was raining...glock was on "Not rain" weels.... god dammit.... you jerk
HAMI!!! THE REAL CHAMPION
EGYPTSELLERS 1 year ago
hmmmm Glock - dry tyres, wet track= no grip. UNDERSTAND NOW?
if not Hamilton and vettel -wet tyres, wet ttrack=more grip.Glock didnt let Hamilton past, he lost loads of time because of the dry tyres he was on, and if you look at the footage, another passes glock so he loses a few positions, no conspiracy just upset Brazilians moaning coz Massa didnt win.Massa will have his chance maybe in 2011 so chin up guys.
fastezza 1 year ago
@fastezza The point of the debate is not the general question of suitability of dry vs intermediate tyres for wet conditions. The point is the SUDDEN and INSANE loss of Glock's pace JUST when needed by Hamilton. The track's condition allowed MANY people to keep or even improve their lap times during the last lap of the race so Glock's on-track behavior looks obviously intentional. The track WAS NOT getting worse or not THAT much worse. Otherwise even people on the right tyres would be slower.
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma i understand bu on here there is a video of glocks last lap on board and you can clearly see glock struggling to accelerate which meant he was slow. just bad luck really.
fastezza 1 year ago
@fastezza And I am not a Brazilian or a Massa fan. I am, however, a massive Hamilton anti-fan, because of his on-track actions (and some inexcusable errors not worth a world champion). Just like I used to be a Schumacher anti-fan, when he did dirty stuff. But he's got OK (I, for example, don't think he cheated in Monaco '06 - the same thing happens to me RIGHT there all the time - well, once every couple hundred quick laps anyway). Hopefully, Lewis will too, one day (not this season though)...
jakubkrcma 1 year ago
@jakubkrcma i have to disagree with you about monaco 06 mate, Schumi (for me) had no reason to stop turning if he had kept his initial lock on he would have been round easily, its uncharacteristic of him to make such an easy mistake. Yeah most drivers can make mistakes but its very rare they do. Take Jenson for insttance, in his early career he made quite a few and now is one of the best (if not the best) and smoothest drivers in F1 today.
fastezza 1 year ago
What a surprise that the person who posted this video is Brazilian.
simoncase 1 year ago
Lets be fair. I completly dislike Hamilton but Glock gets in front of Hamilton and Vettel because he didnt change his tyres for the last few rainy laps. The others did it and lost time. Glock was behind both drivers before the rain started. And the rain got stronger so its not a big surprise but a dramatic end. One corner left and Hamilton would have lost two world championship in a row in the last race.
olehomer88 1 year ago
Anybody who questions Timo Glock should simpy watch the onboard camera of his last lap, which is available on youtube. After watching that, the only ones who could think that he wasn't going as fast as the weather allowed are complete imbeciles and should seriously consider a vasectomy so that their deficient DNA does not continue to pollute the gene pool.
mezzer99 1 year ago
the only reason glock was ahead of hamilton in the first place was because he didnt pit and gambled on it not raining. the look on the farrari garage was priceless though
JusticeForHeysel 1 year ago
I'd like to see these people try and drive a kart on slicks in the wet, never mind a formula one car
dwf12006 1 year ago
Glock did not let Hamilton pass him, thats nonsense.
Hamilton deserved that championship.
Alonso did a good season with that shitty car, by the way.
Lewis and him are the best 2 pilots.
aupathletic27 1 year ago
title should be "Timo Glock decides not to pit for rain tires and almost takes the championship away from Hamilton" if we are being honest... no?
pinkfloyddwc 1 year ago 57
@pinkfloyddwc yeah, thats what the video shows. the guy who uploaded the video either doesnt speak portuguese or misunderstood the whole point of the representation. ex. frame 5: "at the juncao hill lack of traction in glock tires who hadnt stoped to change tires makes the diference so vettel and hamilton overtake him ending massas dream,"
ricardocissi 1 year ago
@ricardocissi oops, 4, or 1:00
ricardocissi 1 year ago
@pinkfloyddwc Hamilton was ahead of glock befor every one pitted. Glock only over took him because he stayed out instead of pitting.
Razzlec 11 months ago
@Razzlec which backs up my point exactly... im guessing you're not arguing :)
pinkfloyddwc 11 months ago
@pinkfloyddwc
Glock had only a few corners left,so it is his fault
pufflescpbw 6 months ago
@pinkfloyddwc nop
throxnet 5 months ago
Acho que, independente se é o piloto por qual torço que é o Felipe Massa, ou qualquer outro brasileiro, deveriam os dois envolvidos tomar bandeira preta e serem desclassificados da corrida, além de punição, mais multa bem pesada aí sim acabariam essas falcatruas e benefícios para que esses &%¨$^*#%] que nem vou por os nomes aqui ou desistam ou saiam da Formula 1.
Quem não tem competência...
Glock vendeu o título...
francisconeto55 1 year ago
Glock risked staying out on dry tyres but he had to go slower to stay on the racetrack. Hamilton deserved it anyway
mclarenrob2 1 year ago
pathetic video uploaded by pathetic person
chinmassager 1 year ago 25
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nachom88 1 year ago
ha ha saylor 194 you bitter RETARDED idiot!! HAMILTON ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!
unitedtilidie79 1 year ago
HA HA LOL....SOUR GRAPES!!!!
...OH BOOHOO!
SupaSix1 1 year ago
u bellieve wot u want adam lewis won championship u just cant handle loseing mate and vali i dont like most germany but u are right u not all the same there are sum gd germans
ITIMBERLANDI 1 year ago
jakubkrcma, you are absolutely hilarious. That is all.
tibsfont 1 year ago
Alonso jodete!
iagoil 1 year ago
Hahahaha does it still hurt ferrari? Mmmmmmm yes, yes, tell me about the pain......
flipsidedogchop 1 year ago
This video is represents the civiil dilema of the right to free speech.
Everyone should have the right to voice their opinion, the only problem is some people are simply waaay too stupid to have a balance opinion and only mis-inform other stupid people to join their side of the argument. Meantime in all the distraction, the things that are truly important suffer.
Solution?
Kill all stupid people first, THEN allow free speech. ;)
BEPENO 2 years ago 2
Timberland is obviously a bastard lier cus timo cunt was on slick ur the one that didn't even watch the race u cunt
Adam786Rs2 2 years ago
I was on that track in 1997. And nothing has changed. That last corner is so damn steep it is difficult to walk up it. Driving on it in the rain with dry tires would be very slow and difficult.
vdvsoldat 2 years ago
comparamos la velocidad de glock al principio con la de la ultima vuelta y se ve claramente como afloja
machacahamilton 2 years ago
noob u dont watch f1 that much do u mate if u did u would know glock was the only 1 on wet tires which means when u go around coners u are relly slow on a dry track and in straight lines u got ass much speed noob lewis won it fair and Sqaure u proley a brazilian / germany noob who cant handle the fact a uk driver is world champion and ahaha bk 2 bk uk drivers world champions congrats lewis and jensen and brawn uk all the way ^_^
ITIMBERLANDI 2 years ago
@ITIMBERLANDI ur obviously a crap lier cus ur boyfriend (timo) was on slick u dick head a bet u didn't even watch the race chatting all that shit about straight line and stuff while timo was on slick and there was a dry line u can even see it on bad quality vid and then timo bastard celebration after woods to gave it away that he fancies lewis he probably thought lewis would bum him or something but it looks like ur safe and timo got bumpt seeing as lewis hamilton with nicole
Adam786Rs2 2 years ago
Adam786 You retard! Obviously you didn't watch the race, as if you did you would have realized that it was the closing 5 laps when it began to rain heavily, there was NO DRY LINE during the final laps, infact by the time the race finished it was almost a monsoon.
Judging by your stupid, childish comments, you have very limited intelligence to go with your dreadful grammar and spelling. Lol @ you
bmk139 2 years ago
@ITIMBERLANDI
Don't put all germans into the same boat. I am german but still, I've always been a fan of the present best driver. Which is, since 2007, definitely Lewis Hamilton. It will be difficult for anyone else to match his skill in near future. I don't think that Button, Vettel (who's currently having a waaay better car) or anyone else can be better than Lewis. I'll keep my finger's crossed, that he won't have so much bad luck in the next races like before. Season's still long =D
Vallin87 1 year ago
How much you write. Hamilton still will be an champion. Think of your health. And there are much better racing games every tried netkar pro? Thats a real simulation.
Schaikkie 2 years ago
Netkar pro? Never heard about it, will take a look. But I believe that to emulate the conditions as close to reality as possible for Formula 1 in wet weather, GP4 is still sufficient. And yes, my words won't change a thing about the 2008 championship outcome, but that doesn't mean I will just swallow the official version when I have a good enough reason to think it is incorrect. We're not FIA officials here on youtube, we are just net citizens expressing their opinions... Which may be wrong...
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
BTW: In Abu Dhabi, Vettel has shown how much BETTER he is than Hamilton. Hamilton had a much better car (see the qualifying), but Vettel managed to keep the distance in the first stint with a worse car even with a couple extra kilos. Hamilton is not championship material to me. Massa, yep (won three consecutive races in Turkey). Raikkonen, yep (won 4, nearly 5, of the last 5 races in Spa). Vettel, definitely (amazing talent). But Hamilton's results are always JUST adequate to his car's...
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Your an idiot, Hamiltons break was broken as has been confiremed. More than that he's been outperforming that car all season. Vettle cannot overtake to save his life, the boy is a prang magnet as well, car destorying recked his championship more than his engine. Also two things did you see Truli's lap time on those tyre's it suffered equaly, If Glock hadn't stayed out on said tyres he would have been behind Hamilton anyway an finnaly Glock is a racer no racer gives away two places for love nor $
Scrib3d 2 years ago
Hamilton's brake hadn't been broken all the time. Vettel kept up with him even while the brakes worked well. Trulli's lap time, on the first sight, was similar to Glock's, but the reality is that in sectors 1 and 2, Trulli was a lot slower than Glock (like in the entire race), but magically, Glock was even much slower than Trulli in the last sector of the race. As you said, racers don't give away places, which is why I am shocked by Glock's actions near the end of the 2008 Brazilian grand prix.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
No the McLarens base pace was perfectly suited to Abu Dahbi. Kovy looked set for near the front of the grid. Hamilton was 6 tenths in front of Vettle for qualifying. Much more than the fuel effect. He couldn't stop the car from the first corner, his brakes where broken from the first corner.
Scrib3d 2 years ago
The telemetry shows pretty much everything to the pit crew IN REAL TIME. A failing brake pad would directly cause R/L rear wheel speed values to differ greatly, affecting longitudinal stability. This would a) be crucial information to communicate to the driver - they would radio Lewis immediately (not in lap ~19) and b) the car would possibly not be allowed to continue for safety concerns (which is what actually happened, but only later in the race - when the brake ACTUALLY failed). LH = liar
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Lewis CLAIMS that it became obvious after 3 or 4 laps that there is a problem with his right rear brake pad, BUT he did not communicate with the crew about it (e.g. to check or fix it during the pit stop or about a possible retirement due to safety). And MUCH later, when his race engineer radioed him, he said: "we MAY have a right rear brake PROBLEM". Lewis often says a lie to cover his or the team's image or to keep undeserved points/positions... There are enough examples of that.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
And since it is common practice among racers to give away places due to team orders, it is imaginable that "other" circumstances (such as money, friendship , hatred, etc.) could have a huge influence as well...
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
its only common practice when a driver is in the place in front of you. Hence Massa's first Turkey victory.
Look at Glock when hamilton crosses the line, he has four wheel horizontal drift. thats the sing of a man with literally sweet fa for grip. He couldn't stop Vettle he couldn't stop Hamilton. He made a gamble, it lost him two places but gained him 1. He didn't and wouldn't have handed the championship to Hamilton. No racer would want be handed a championship and glock would understand it
Scrib3d 2 years ago
long rule HAMMY timo glock had wrong tyres on thats why lewis drove past him ,DUID U NOT SEE THE RACE THATS WHY U ONLY HAVE A CRAP VIDEO TAKE IT OF YOUY MUNG
andyg8b 2 years ago
the people who say glock let hamilton pass are retarded
portugalfan10 2 years ago 36
@portugalfan10 you are the retarded goddamned motherfucker
jorgebg87 1 year ago
@jorgebg87 is my impression or my comment is the highest rated???maybe there is a reason for that don´t you think you fucking idiot
portugalfan10 1 year ago
If you drive an Formula 1 car on slicks in the wet on place 4? I think if you have an couple of laps to go? I think 99.9% would just drive to the finish and hope to hold this place...Making an pitstop would just drop you futher back. And why would Glock let Hamilton pass? For Glock there is nothing in it. For his team also.
And what Jakubkrcma say's like The ULTIMATE evidence: I did a WET run with a DEFAULT DRY SETUP with SOFT DRY TIRES. You compare an game with the real? hahaha..
Schaikkie 2 years ago 2
Yes, I compare a "game" with reality. A "game" that F1 drivers accepted as being VERY close to reality at the game's launch in Australia 2002. Also, the cars were completely different in 2001 (which is the season GP4 simulates). STILL, the principle stays the same - wrong tires = worse laptimes, BUT what Glock demonstrated was an insult to motor racing. Even ex-F1 drivers, who spoke on TV during the race admitted he could have "run" to the finish line and still keep 4th position.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
First off, GP4 was made in close cooperation with an F1 team (Arrows). Secondly, even the old GP2 was used by Jacques Villeneuve as serious preparation/training. The "game's" maker, Geoff Crammond is not originally a game developer, but a physicist, whose Revs Formula 3 simulation back in 1985 was already VERY advanced as far as physics are concerned. In GP3, wet weather racing was good, in GP4, it is even better/closer to reality. If you ever drove a kart on a track in the wet, you can confirm.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
A quote from wiki about GP3: Weather - Although its predecessors had featured wet races, GP3 added variable rainfall, i.e. the track's wetness changing throughout the course of a race, and varying levels of wetness at different points on the track. It also improved the driving model used when driving in wet conditions. And sorry, REVS was originally launched in 1984 for the BBC Micro. It was out for C64 (which I had) in 1986.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
This is a fake ! Glock didn't let hamilton be champion ! he's just a poor shit, he did an error and he went out of the track. Glock hate hamilton, he nerver let hamilton overtake
k4lim3r0360 2 years ago
If this is true why didn't he just pit for wets instead like everyone else?
Please answer.
ab8jeh 2 years ago
I will answer with a simple question: Why did Rubens let Michael through in the last corner in Austia (despite loud and clear team orders)? The most logical answer to both questions is the same: because Rubens and Timo wanted to show that if they really wanted, they could have held the position until the finish. Only the circumstances were different.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
And one more thing - as Kovalainen BLINDED Raikkonen with fuel on Sunday, McLaren mechanics should have pulled the hose, NOT guys from a 3rd team! I would penalise for that as well! When Massa ripped the hose last year, Ferrari guys ran all the way to fix it! I HATE INJUSTICE!!! McLaren and Ferrari are still fighting for constructors championship position so outside help is COMPLETELY unsportsmanlike! If Ferrari mechanics helped Heikki, it would be a friendly gesture, but a third team shouldn't!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
And the best comes now - I HAD NOT KNOWN UNTIL N.O.W. THAT GLOCK AND ROSBERG WERE HAMILTON'S ONLY FRIENDS AMONG F1 DRIVERS! Glock was Hamilton's buddy from GP2! Ha! Now this is the last piece of the puzzle that I needed. You believe stories and fairytales of impossibly low grip instead... Your problem... But to me, it is obvious - not money or a secret McLaren deal or anything - but cross-team FRIENDSHIP! Teammate cooperation is normal and expected, cross-team cooperation is basically treason!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
literally shut up, know-ones listening.
jimbojimbogould 2 years ago
Firstly, there are some people who agree with me. Secondly, even if the ratio is one to a million, I am entitled to have my opinions AND to share them. That's why we actually have discussions under the videos - and there are even videos, where everybody agrees with each other. I very often share the majority's opinion, but sometimes I am a lone wolf (maybe even howling at the wrong Moon, who knows?). I have the right to express myself just like you do. Regards, Jakub
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
On topic, Timo claimed he went in 4th gear to limit wheelspin and that he just wanted to bring the car home. Can you SERIOUSLY imagine someone being 4th, just one step from the podium, and then calmly letting people through, losing valuable points - nearly ending pointless (at that INSANELY slow pace). The second sector, where he lost SO MUCH time, is the slowest sector, where speeds are even normally VERY slow, especially in the wet. And then he simply GAVE UP in the third sector...
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
BTW: I just tried WET Brazil with all sorts of tires (soft and hard dry, intermediate, soft and hard wet, monsoon) in GP4 (default setup, keyboard) for fun. The best-worst spread was about 1:27.2 - 1:38.4 (just a couple attempts with each tire type). This corellates perfectly with the estimate of 1:38 in the banned video. Also, a VERY funny fact - you can complete a lap in about 1:40 in 1ST GEAR in the dry (default setup - 1st try 1:41.6)!!! Glock simply cheated! Tell us why, Timo!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Tried another run in the dry in 1st gear now. It was far from perfect (default setup, keyboard, lots of small errors). In the 1st sector, Timo's time was about 24.8, my time was 32.920 (~32 % slower). In the 2nd sector, my time was 36.197, Timo's time was 54.7 (TIMO WAS ~51 % SLOWER). In the 3rd sector, Timo's time was 25, my time was 32.215 (~28 % slower). Can you SERIOUSLY imagine Timo being ~18.5 seconds slower in A SINGLE SECTOR, especially when he was ~15.3 seconds FASTER in the others?
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Also, his teammate with the same tires did the last sector in about 22.8 or 2.2 seconds faster than Timo. So my time was actually over 41 % slower in the last sector than what Timo's car was capable of and not just over 28 %. Can you believe him being over 51 % slower in one sector and me being over 32 and 41 % slower in the other two (despite the obvious track layout differences)? The safety car did about 1:55 in the wet, which means it would probably match Timo's wet time in the dry. Ha ha ha
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
SO! I tried running IN 1ST GEAR with DRY tires in the WET. My second sector during my first attempt was 43.684 s, Timo's time 54.7 (OVER 25 % SLOWER). HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Either he went off the track (which he obviously did NOT) or he CHEATED = WENT SLOW INTENTIONALLY!!! There is NO BLOODY WAY IN HELL he could GENUINELY lose over 11 seconds against my first 1ST GEAR attempt in just ONE SECTOR with "comparable" weather and tires. He could just leave the car and RUN faster. ;-)
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
The ULTIMATE evidence: I did a WET run with a DEFAULT DRY SETUP with SOFT DRY TIRES (this time using any gears, not just 1st). The traction control was off, of course. So, I had very little downforce, longer gears, completely unsuitable tires, and no traction assistance. Just like Timo in reality, but actually more difficult, because steering and throttle/braking are basically ON/OFF on the keyboard. Still, my first attempt 2nd sector time was 41.236 seconds. Timo was ~13.5 s (~32 %) slower!!!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
How can you think that Hamilton didn't deserve the world title, Massa certainly didn't, may i remind you all that Massa would barely have been in contention for the world title if Raikkonen hadn't let him past in china to claim 2nd place.
airfix11 2 years ago
What? That's regular teamplay near the end of the season. EVERY team does that! When one driver is substantially more likely to win the drivers championship, the other driver helps. Massa supported Raikkonen in 2007, Barichello supported Michael basically all the time etc. etc. Racing between teammates usually takes place only until one is either without a mathematical chance or substantially disadvantaged. With Michael and Rubens, it was even beyond this, obviously... McLaren '07 was too close.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
But when exactly was Hamilton helped by Alonso or Kovalainen? anyway, that is irrelevant, it is definitely not sportmanlike to let someone pass
airfix11 2 years ago
As I said, it was too close in 2007, so there was no reason for Alonso or Hamilton to help each other for the sake of the team. On the contrary, they fought each other to the last race as expected and reasonable. In 2008, Kovalainen was not in a position to help Hamilton (i.e. he wasn't usually right in front of Hamilton). Kovalainen was a poor driver for the car he was given in 2008. I hope we all can agree with that... Even the cheater Briatore called him anti-Alonso back in around 2007...
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Letting your teammate through when you cannot win the title and he can is completely understandable and normal. That's why you're in the same team. If there was no constructors championship and all teams had just one driver, then it would be a different situation. It is good to have multiple drivers in a team, because that allows us to judge relative driver performance. With one driver per team, it would be COMPLETELY impossible to compare drivers.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
For example Fisi and Force India vs Ferrari. In one race, he challenges for victory (finishing under a second behind the winner), in another he's around the back of the field. All because of different driveability (which is not the same as power or aero or any standard measurable aspect of car performance). All of a sudden, Badoer doesn't look THAT bad, when a near-winner in another team looks like a backmarker in Ferrari... BRAVO RAIKKONEN!!! I bet Lewis is not sleeping well, if Kimi gets back.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
...to McLaren in 2010. But maybe the best for Kimi would be to do WRC full-time for a change. He's really good at that as well, obviously.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Congratulations to Jenson and Ross. Both titles in the team's first year are an amazing result. You can say Jenson is not a worthy champion, but you just don't win 6 out of the first 7 races without skill - beating the most experienced driver in F1 history in the same car in the process. It is just natural that after gaining a substantial lead, you start driving defensively and conservatively - be it in a race or in a championship. Also congratulations to Mark Webber for his 2nd win.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Only Jenson, Kimi and Mark finished on the podium in 4 consecutive races this year (so far). However, today's Mark's victory was tainted a bit by him not giving Kimi one car width in lap 1, while Kimi was already too close to be able to do anything about it - ruining his race. I don't think Kimi would win today, but a podium was quite possible, if not sure. Kimi's pusheroo in the first corner may have had shared guilt, but then Mark just screwed him. But then Mark drove amazingly!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
Mark also won the DHL Fastest Lap Award today (3 fastest laps this season - no one can beat him in the remaining race, only tie - but later, so Mark is the winner of the trophy Kimi had for the last two years). Congratulations for that as well! Few people realize that last year, Kimi had 10 fastest laps in 12 consecutive races, UNBELIEVABLE PERFORMANCE! Wow! And the car was FAR from dominant (unlike Michael's in 2004). Kimi had at least 5 direct competitors in cars capable of fastest laps.
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
And of course when people claim that Glock's and Trulli's final lap times were almost identical, that's BS. Trulli's sector 1 and 2 were slower by SECONDS, but MIRACULOUSLY Glock's last sector was even MUCH slower than Trulli's, which BTW is not in line with the "rapidly worsening conditions" scenario FABULATED by some people! Actually, THREE drivers drove FASTER in lap 71 than in lap 70!!!!!!! That would OF COURSE be impossible if the rain was getting stronger, REGARDLESS TO TIRE TYPE!!!!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
1 star. Epic fail.
RomBurns 2 years ago
that is ridiculous glock AND TRULLI had slick tires on everyone else had inters! it started to rain again on the last lap which means glock AND TRULLI both slowed by a lot i dont know if you've ever watched F1 before but when it rains and you're on slick tires you have to slow down or you crash. if he didnt slow down and he crashed hamilton would have still been world champion. you can believe what you want but there where two cars on slicks and BOTH HAD to slow down! hamilton deserved to win!
xXx0georgia0xXx 2 years ago 12
@xXx0georgia0xXx its not a matter of crashing on the slicks, a massive reason they are slower is because they dont have as much grip, they slow down on wet tyres aswell
daniellewis941 1 year ago
the idea that glock gave hamilton the position on purpose is rediculous, but let's say it's not. let's say mclaren paid him to let hamilton pass..... WHO CARES?? ferrari have been getting away with murder in f1 for years. it's about time they got screwed for a change. get over it.
afrodes 2 years ago 4