From the 11 October 2011 agency workers will have the right to the same basic terms and conditions as a directly employed worker after they have been in the job for 12 continuous weeks that includes sick pay. Don't ask your MP to tell you this because he most likely doesn't want you to know this. Capitalist britian all the information you need to know just don't ask our media, thank fuck for the internet.
the jobcentre is just a brothel for the private agencies to pim money out of those who have the misfortune to be unemployed for over 12 months(its a no brainer that in 2011 a lot of people are in that boat not cause there lazy but coz the cruddy gobcentre does not invest in any menigfull re training programmes(for a specfic trade) when I told one of the advisers that I had been offered a place in sept on a plumbing course she told that effort could not count towards getting off the dole
Well. I must confess I have never really had to work. Daddy's failthy rich you see. And besides I'm far too busy having fun. If I had to "work" wouldn't have time to hang out with my rich friends-they don't work either. Feel sorry for all you people that have to do dull boring 9 to 5 jobs for 50 hours a week. But I suppose if you're poor to begin with you don't have much choice in the matter. Ok got to go now. Jonsey-that's our butler, has arrived. Of to French Rivera for week-end etc. Byeeee.
How is it possible to work for your dole and still meet the minimum wage. For an adult on £65pw dole you are already living on less than half the legal minimium wage. If you start working for £65pw surely that is ilegal unless you work 65/minimum wage which equals about 12 hours work a week. And then you would still have to claim housing benefit-unless they get you out of your home and living rough. FND is there to make the providers of it rich-parasiting of the unemployed in essence.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 It is partly the immigrant, fact they have destroyed the young generation who could have gone into work this decade, and i hope they pay for it. I ahve no consideration for immigrants as they had no consideration for the people already in the uk b4 they came other here. They need to get their own country in order and stop being parasites. FACT
There not enough jobs in the economy to employ all (there are going to be even less in future) and there are vulnerable people that are not viably employable.
Either people will be used for slave labour for the profit of private concerns or the most vulnerable and the older, will end up being denied any benefits and die of poverty in large numbers.
Either way the government is going to save money and that is the all point.
Welfare Claimants are arguably the most demonised people in the UK today. The amount of misconceptions and vilifying- encouraged by the red top press, makes my blood boil.
Sometimes I find it hard to stay calm when debating with people on this because of my personal experience. The problem is we live in a society where people are automatically judged by employment status and that infuriates me. Honesty, integrity and empathy are qualities that can be found in either the employed or unemployed.
I do not consider 'hard work' to be automatically a virtue because people can work hard with the wrong ultimate goal. It could be argued that dictators work hard to impose their draconian policies. Im not an economist so I can't pretend I have all the answers but I do know that at present the unemployed, and particularly claimants are the only minority group whereby its still publicly acceptable to discriminate against, by which I mean casual negative generalisations.
I can empathise with your frustration. In the end I decided to leave because I could no longer take it. I still don't have paid work so its not easy from a financial perspective but I recommend you save as much JSA as you can and then leave. Enough people doing so will send out the message that this system is deeply flawed and Cameron's plans for 'reform' will be even more draconian.
yes i have ended up leaving, and am now registered as self employed, and have my first art exhibition on friday, where I'll be selling work. so things are looking up! and i agree- I feel sorry for the people signing on under cameron's britain.
I agree as I have only been signing on for about two weeks now after my contract finished at my old job and now I am volunteering at an art gallery bye choice just to get out of the house. As I hate it when people say everyone on JSA are lazy as well as everyone at the Job centre don't help, now I don't know about you, but yes I am lazy even though I have a 1st class BA Hons degree, a Masters degree and have over eight years experience in my field which is in the creative arts, they need change
I am lucky i have skills where i work for myself, but it is true, New Deal makes you sign a 'contract' agreeing to accept any minimum wage scummy job, wiping old mens arses sweeping streets stacking shelves anything. If you refuse-don't sign it or disagree with any of their 'pre conditions' they cut all money off from 3 weeks to 26 weeks to indefinately.
All the fat lazy Women there get clothing allowance AND good wages for sitting on arses chatting to mates at OUR EXPENSE..
i am obviously unmemployed thats i why i am here looking at unemployment video's i am not going to even nother looking for work as there is just no way out plus the ressession i have to moan and groan i am realy stressed
In the UK, one of the worst things is the stigmatising. A lot of self righteous people seem to think they have it all worked out about JSA- apparently we are all lazy criminals. I strongly urge people to visit my Facebook group 'Generalising the unemployed' There are a number of hate groups online and its important to counteract this. Many thanks.
kingdomofdalriada- there are various reasons, but im not going to give you an account of my life, because frankly I don't think it is any of your business. Perhaps if you had asked in a different way I wouldn't have minded. All you need to know is that I have volunteered in a number of sectors and that things haven't allways worked out for me. That happens. Don't tell me your life has been smooth.
Yes I do have qualifications and im making use of them. Hopefully that will result in a job soon.
And please don't regard my reluctance to run through all the issues ive faced as something suspicious. I just think it is rather crude to do so- and I don't think I should have to answer to anyone. I am not a criminal and I know what the truth is. I have made some mistakes but no more or less than anyone with a job. Having a job alone is not a virtue.
a4e is the private commpany the goverment use on new deal it a 13 week coarse where you work a 5 day week for £75 a week a4e get £194 pounds aweek per unemployed person a week why not cut the a4e out of the picture and give someone a job for £250 a week doing usefull things for socity,by the way a4e is owned by emma harrison who has a lovely mansion paid for by tax payers so why not give unemployd people a real job instead of makeing people like emma millionares with your taxes
@lordchickdore This is what happens during "Stage 3 of Flexible new deal". When you reach "Stage 4" you don't get the extra £15, your time with A4e is increased to a year or more, and during that time you will be forced to do one month of unpaid 2 "voluntary" labour-though how it can be regarded as voluntary when you are forced to do it or lose your dole so it can't be described as voluntary. Probably the whole deal is to soften you up to accept having to work below minimum wage for your dole.
@hopscotch49 Must concur with your conclusion, "Probably the whole deal is to soften you up to accept having to work below minimum wage for your dole." The whole repressive apparatus is designed to piss you off to the point where you are so desperate to be free of the treatment at the hands of one's "advisor" that one will "voluntarily" take any shit job.
They should have burned all the Job Centre's and A4E down during the the recent riots...
demarcos69 2 weeks ago
Being unemployed is hardest, harshest and most unrewarding job in the world.
Jeorney 1 month ago
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From the 11 October 2011 agency workers will have the right to the same basic terms and conditions as a directly employed worker after they have been in the job for 12 continuous weeks that includes sick pay. Don't ask your MP to tell you this because he most likely doesn't want you to know this. Capitalist britian all the information you need to know just don't ask our media, thank fuck for the internet.
MrNeversaynever 5 months ago
the jobcentre is just a brothel for the private agencies to pim money out of those who have the misfortune to be unemployed for over 12 months(its a no brainer that in 2011 a lot of people are in that boat not cause there lazy but coz the cruddy gobcentre does not invest in any menigfull re training programmes(for a specfic trade) when I told one of the advisers that I had been offered a place in sept on a plumbing course she told that effort could not count towards getting off the dole
jasonfury1 5 months ago
fair play to the kids I wish there was a group like that around like me so I could stand up to the wankers intraining
jasonfury1 5 months ago
A4E IS A SCAM WHAT EVER WORK YOU DO MONEY GOES TO THE GOVERMENT IN THE END
moonfruit100 6 months ago
I agree with everything said by that man in the video.
RobBottin 7 months ago
Well. I must confess I have never really had to work. Daddy's failthy rich you see. And besides I'm far too busy having fun. If I had to "work" wouldn't have time to hang out with my rich friends-they don't work either. Feel sorry for all you people that have to do dull boring 9 to 5 jobs for 50 hours a week. But I suppose if you're poor to begin with you don't have much choice in the matter. Ok got to go now. Jonsey-that's our butler, has arrived. Of to French Rivera for week-end etc. Byeeee.
SURREAL2010ful 8 months ago
If it wasnt 4 jobless they wud be outta work 2
zincfreud 9 months ago
How is it possible to work for your dole and still meet the minimum wage. For an adult on £65pw dole you are already living on less than half the legal minimium wage. If you start working for £65pw surely that is ilegal unless you work 65/minimum wage which equals about 12 hours work a week. And then you would still have to claim housing benefit-unless they get you out of your home and living rough. FND is there to make the providers of it rich-parasiting of the unemployed in essence.
hopscotch49 1 year ago
The jobcentre's shite
JimbobHarrigan1984 1 year ago
job centre are racist
49kingify 1 year ago
@BritainAwake2oo8
Do not blame the immigrants. It is more complex than that.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 It is partly the immigrant, fact they have destroyed the young generation who could have gone into work this decade, and i hope they pay for it. I ahve no consideration for immigrants as they had no consideration for the people already in the uk b4 they came other here. They need to get their own country in order and stop being parasites. FACT
predator45655 1 year ago
Let not play with words.
There not enough jobs in the economy to employ all (there are going to be even less in future) and there are vulnerable people that are not viably employable.
Either people will be used for slave labour for the profit of private concerns or the most vulnerable and the older, will end up being denied any benefits and die of poverty in large numbers.
Either way the government is going to save money and that is the all point.
We are looking at a de-civilisation of society.
Sergius248 1 year ago 2
Welfare Claimants are arguably the most demonised people in the UK today. The amount of misconceptions and vilifying- encouraged by the red top press, makes my blood boil.
Sometimes I find it hard to stay calm when debating with people on this because of my personal experience. The problem is we live in a society where people are automatically judged by employment status and that infuriates me. Honesty, integrity and empathy are qualities that can be found in either the employed or unemployed.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
I do not consider 'hard work' to be automatically a virtue because people can work hard with the wrong ultimate goal. It could be argued that dictators work hard to impose their draconian policies. Im not an economist so I can't pretend I have all the answers but I do know that at present the unemployed, and particularly claimants are the only minority group whereby its still publicly acceptable to discriminate against, by which I mean casual negative generalisations.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
the jobcentre makes me sososo angry.
I've been on jobseekers off and on for 2 whole years...
HughGarrette 1 year ago 3
@HughGarrette
I can empathise with your frustration. In the end I decided to leave because I could no longer take it. I still don't have paid work so its not easy from a financial perspective but I recommend you save as much JSA as you can and then leave. Enough people doing so will send out the message that this system is deeply flawed and Cameron's plans for 'reform' will be even more draconian.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1
yes i have ended up leaving, and am now registered as self employed, and have my first art exhibition on friday, where I'll be selling work. so things are looking up! and i agree- I feel sorry for the people signing on under cameron's britain.
HughGarrette 1 year ago
@HughGarrette
Thankyou and best wishes for your art endeavours. Coincidently, at was at an art preview tonight (NGCA in Sunderland)
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
I've only been on the dole once in my life and those fucks at the Jobcentre gave me wrong advice resulting in my benefit being stopped!
GuysSeriously 1 year ago
I agree as I have only been signing on for about two weeks now after my contract finished at my old job and now I am volunteering at an art gallery bye choice just to get out of the house. As I hate it when people say everyone on JSA are lazy as well as everyone at the Job centre don't help, now I don't know about you, but yes I am lazy even though I have a 1st class BA Hons degree, a Masters degree and have over eight years experience in my field which is in the creative arts, they need change
ShadowlostArts 1 year ago
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DAZLG 1 year ago
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DAZLG 1 year ago
Hey, is that Project Caramel?
Jaspergh 2 years ago
You wont find a job, all the polish imigrants got you're jobs now..........
NAMZR160 2 years ago
Tell me about it Burton On Trent is like that and Derby
sandydogy 2 years ago
Fucking pikey scum.
smooshen90 2 years ago
verrrryyyy good
paltalk1000 2 years ago
Lordchickdore I salute you. Yes
FUCK WORK
brothernumbefour 2 years ago
I am lucky i have skills where i work for myself, but it is true, New Deal makes you sign a 'contract' agreeing to accept any minimum wage scummy job, wiping old mens arses sweeping streets stacking shelves anything. If you refuse-don't sign it or disagree with any of their 'pre conditions' they cut all money off from 3 weeks to 26 weeks to indefinately.
All the fat lazy Women there get clothing allowance AND good wages for sitting on arses chatting to mates at OUR EXPENSE..
lancashirepolice 2 years ago 3
i am obviously unmemployed thats i why i am here looking at unemployment video's i am not going to even nother looking for work as there is just no way out plus the ressession i have to moan and groan i am realy stressed
salps3 2 years ago
i hope things have picked up for ya? i was on the dole for 12 months until last april! it drove me insane, dole can seriously ruin a man!
trippy119 2 years ago 2
Yeah they didnt believe me that I found a vacancy by myself eventually I got the job and they seemed all uptight about it
Katie
JKAntics 2 years ago
In the UK, one of the worst things is the stigmatising. A lot of self righteous people seem to think they have it all worked out about JSA- apparently we are all lazy criminals. I strongly urge people to visit my Facebook group 'Generalising the unemployed' There are a number of hate groups online and its important to counteract this. Many thanks.
CULAVE 2 years ago
Why are you unemployed ?
do you have qualifications ?
kingdomofdalriada 2 years ago
kingdomofdalriada- there are various reasons, but im not going to give you an account of my life, because frankly I don't think it is any of your business. Perhaps if you had asked in a different way I wouldn't have minded. All you need to know is that I have volunteered in a number of sectors and that things haven't allways worked out for me. That happens. Don't tell me your life has been smooth.
Yes I do have qualifications and im making use of them. Hopefully that will result in a job soon.
CULAVE 2 years ago 5
And please don't regard my reluctance to run through all the issues ive faced as something suspicious. I just think it is rather crude to do so- and I don't think I should have to answer to anyone. I am not a criminal and I know what the truth is. I have made some mistakes but no more or less than anyone with a job. Having a job alone is not a virtue.
CULAVE 2 years ago
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Why dont you join the Army ?
It says you are 23, you should be able to get a decent job at 23. ?
Do you have an extensive criminal record ?
kingdomofdalriada 2 years ago
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@CULAVE Get a job you loser. Fucking waster
oconnorthelegend 1 year ago
a4e is the private commpany the goverment use on new deal it a 13 week coarse where you work a 5 day week for £75 a week a4e get £194 pounds aweek per unemployed person a week why not cut the a4e out of the picture and give someone a job for £250 a week doing usefull things for socity,by the way a4e is owned by emma harrison who has a lovely mansion paid for by tax payers so why not give unemployd people a real job instead of makeing people like emma millionares with your taxes
lordchickdore 2 years ago 14
Because they're dumb socialist fat cunts with who have lost touch with reality?
darkstar0709 2 years ago
@lordchickdore This is what happens during "Stage 3 of Flexible new deal". When you reach "Stage 4" you don't get the extra £15, your time with A4e is increased to a year or more, and during that time you will be forced to do one month of unpaid 2 "voluntary" labour-though how it can be regarded as voluntary when you are forced to do it or lose your dole so it can't be described as voluntary. Probably the whole deal is to soften you up to accept having to work below minimum wage for your dole.
hopscotch49 1 year ago
@hopscotch49 Must concur with your conclusion, "Probably the whole deal is to soften you up to accept having to work below minimum wage for your dole." The whole repressive apparatus is designed to piss you off to the point where you are so desperate to be free of the treatment at the hands of one's "advisor" that one will "voluntarily" take any shit job.
skay48 8 months ago
FUCK WORK
lordchickdore 2 years ago 3