Moon Landing Hoax - Collins Leaves Mark on Camera

[scottson2]

to Suddenly: what about the rock that was given to the other country rep that turned out to be petrified wood.. there is a YT video showing jarred asking Buzz directly about it and buzz saying that somone tampered with it before it was gifted...,but still sealed in the original NASA presentation plaque.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

Oops, some typo's in earlier posts:

*authorities

*an endless

*whose work

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

Now let's get on to your major intellectual typos and paranoiac hysteria.

[Rampant7990]

Thats the same ass wipe that Buzz Aldrin punched in the face. He actually, has the stupidity to demand that someone swear on the bible.

Like that would make any difference to anyone who would lie to begin with.

The guy is a religious fanatic, douche, who deserves a real beating.

[davrosd]

Conspiracy theorists are only pissed off because the only time they've been to the moon, is when the losers are doing drugs. Ha ha ha

[teddysalad65]

I thought the astronauts were supposed to be all nervous and edgy during this press conference. This proves that they weren't.

[Skandalos]

3:25 of hoping you get punched your teeth out.

[zzzdogutube]

I have an engineering degree and I've been an engineer for 30 years and I question it. A true scientist questions things and asks for proof. Good luck to you who believe things without proof. They make some good points, think about it. It is possible.

[bondurango]

Collins is a recluse.  He only comes out on very special occasions & only when events are tightly controlled to give him the maximum protection with the least amount of exposure.

If this military veteran of a hero got ambushed it's because he's lousy under fire. All he had to do is tell Sibrel to contact his agent to arrange for an interview. It's not like astronauts never cash in or are prohibited from doing so.

The question is why did he act as badly, if not worse, than Sibrel?

[TarisioConductor]

Collins handled that about as well as you could handle being ambushed by a camera crew on your way to the supermarket. Good for him!

[Coolins335]

way to harass a hero

[UnlovedChassis]

its funny, all the non-engineering/science types don't believe in the moon landings. if you have an ounce of legitimate education in math and physics you can understand how REAL the moon landings are. Good luck in life, arts students.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@UnlovedChassis

'its funny, all the non-engineering/science types don't believe in the moon landings'

Well the reason for that is very simple: 'enigineering/science types' are being programmed more thoroughly & have a more acute personal investment in believing authority, since otherwise it's bye bye career.

Their 'training' has the effect of largely eradicating all remnants of common sense from their minds and they are particularly exposed to the PRESTIGE of almost infallible authority's,

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@UnlovedChassis

...whom one just DOES NOT DOUBT. NO CRITICAL ASSESSMENTS ALLOWED. It simply isn't done.

All this is rather funny when the history of science shows and endless stream of corrupt authorities who's work always ended up being debunked anyway. The history of science is the history of lies needing more lies in an endless progression supposedly converging increasingly with truth.

The question is, does one approach truth building on a long sequence of lies?

OF COURSE you...

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

Science is responsible for the computer and website which allows you to post your aggressive attitude and paranoid drivel. Science is also responsible for six successful manned lunar landings.

What is your education? Degree?

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

Pfft! Substandard post. Sorry, I've talked to enough people of your sort. They are unfunny, have no critical thinking skills and are utterly defensive. Believe whatever you like.

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

"Truth needs no defense"--Gene Cernan, Apollo 17

No, it's your people who buy into hoax notions because it's the in-thing to do, and none of you have a technical or science-based background.

To a one you're all miseducated in the very thing you're trying to tear down, and yet you consider yourselves of superior intellect. You're not. You're more like willful children than "critical thinkers."

Science is not a belief system; your non-science is.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

I'm UTTERLY BORED with people such as yourself with their cultish adoration of science, who can never address a statement on its merit or an argument on its substance and always need to go by the authoritativeness of the one voicing the argument. It's always the same buzzwords and -phrases:

'ignorance', 'education', 'degree' and soforth, indicating a COMPLETE COLLAPSE of critical thinking skills.

So you need your heroes and boisterously recite their lines, lines of the grossest..

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

Education is what develops critical thinking skills (which you lack) and drives back ignorance (which you display and which sabotages you).

You're not an intellectual; quite the opposite, really.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

Face it: your posts are substandard. We're not in the same league. Bye now.

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

Yes, I graduated with a degree, and you're still down there in kindergarten. We're still awaiting all your peer-reviewed facts of science, and you still keep posting your gut-level, miseducated fallacies.

Isaac Asimov wrote on the dangers of hysterical crusaders like you. Crusaders of ignorance. Go learn some science and look up treatments for 'paranoia'--because you are an hysterical paranoiac.

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

And what does being 'amusing' have to do with anything? That's a particularly silly thing to say in any form of serious discourse.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

...banality.

I'm using a computer so science is cool? Is that your 'argument'? Again: pfft.

.

'Truth needs no defense'.

Could you even explain what this line means to you? You obviously live in a completely deluded little world of an utter moron in denial. 'Truth needs no defense'...What an amazingly idiotic statement in a society where truth is ROUTINELY RAPED.

Nothing you state is even mildly conducive to intellectual activity, it's shallow, dullwitted,...

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

...UTTERLY predictable.

What's THIS:

'No, truth is independent of "willathepeepul" or, as you put it, "consensus of the majority." Science has shown us time and again that "consensus of the majority" is sometimes wildly inaccurate.

The moon landings are truth and coincidentally "consensus of the majority'

Truth is independent of the 'consensus of the majority'? And 'consensus of the majority' is the 'willathepeepul'?

WHAT are these lines, these grossly unspecific mantra's..

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

...that are so painfully unsubstantive and intellectually substandard?

Collins said the space program 'needs more English majors' in order to 'engagingly speak to the public'??

These housewife-trivia and cultish lines are indeed an UTTER BORE, and yes, they are UNFUNNY, UNINTERESTING, UNINTELLIGENT, they do not constitute anything worth considering a 'discourse', much less 'serious discourse'.

Here's another wonderful line for you that must impress you greatly:

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

'WE PLAYED GOLF ON THE MOON'.

You must just love that one, don't you?

Since you haven't even been able to process the OBVIOUS IRONY in my phrase

'consensus of the majority = truth', which even any moron having read the full post would immediately have realized is NOT MY PERSPECTIVE on truth, but as it happens, YOURS, exchanges such as these put the entire intellectual burden of formulating what it even is we're exchanging about on MY shoulders exclusively.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

'Science has shown us time and again that "consensus of the majority" is sometimes wildly inaccurate'

Does one really need to refer to 'science', as if it were some godlike entity, some absolute authority-figure, in order to posit that the majority can be wrong? Isn't the fact that the majority CAN be wrong, that most of the time the majority IS wrong, evident to ANYBODY who'se not a complete idiot?

So yeah, your post is quite saddening.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

At the end of the line, you believe what you believe because you've figured it's best to stay in line with authority.

I on the other hand do NOT believe, or rather THINK, KNOW what I think and know because I've needed to harmonize my views with someone else's. I don't 'believe' anything 'because it's the thing to do'.

What you don't understand, MadHighway, is that a number of people is able to take their PERSONAL INVESTMENTS and priorities OUT OF THE THINKING PROCESS.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

It's a question of prioritizing TRUTH, HONESTY, REALITY, rather than intellectually collapsing in the face of overwhelming authority and peer pressure.

Of course, people like you always find confirmation in the more outrageous 'conspiratorial' theories and deluded truth-groupies splashed all over the internet that 'conspiracy-theorists' are 'nutters'.

The hysterical panic, with which anything not squaring with authoritative dogma -such as 9/11 was perpetrated...

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

...by evil arabs with cutters'- is IMMEDIATELY BRANDED 'conspiratorial' thinking and therefore a mental illness really shows the gravity of the brainwash society's conformists are today victims of. 'Conspiracy'...The term is ALL OVER THE PLACE. Did you ever wonder why?

Haven't you noticed that authority ROUTINELY LIES to people and that there's a massive problem here? It is today, as we've seen, possible to LIE to the ENTIRE WORLD about issues such as WMD or Al Qaeda being...

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

...linked to Sadam, while the mass-media, the United Nations and the overwhelming majority of 'experts' remain SILENT, even though such lies are knowingly created to justify illegal wars.

Why don't you take the consequences? It can obviously only mean ONE THING: that there are no controls establishing what is true and what is not in society at large. These things are ultimately established in a TOP-DOWN fashion by authority, be it in finance, politics, physics, biology.

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

Blahblahblahblather.

Please present sourced, peer-reviewed facts of science to prove your case instead of trying to prove how cutting-edge and individualistic you are.

I'll ignore the unrelated and irrelevant issues you bring up; obviously you have a deep-seated paranoia involving 'authority'.

Independent authorities tracked and confirmed manned US spacecraft at the moon. Any legit university can apply for a lunar soil/rock sample.

Stay on-task.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

'Please present sourced, peer-reviewed facts of science to prove your case'

Pfft. Another substandard, completely mindlessly unspecific line.

What contention of mine requires a peer-reviewed paper in your opinion?

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

You continually pile conjecture atop misperception atop yet more conjecture. None of what you say about the Apollo program is backed up by any reputable science or engineering journal or personnel.

Your case is based solely on your misperceptions, mistrustfulness, your personal opinion, and your overweening sense of pride; nobody can convince otherwise.

Classic bulletproof paranoiac setup. There are peer-reviewed studies on YOUR mindset.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@MadHighway

'Independent authorities'

Such as?

'Lunar rock sample'

And how does the legit university ascertain the soil/rock sample is lunar?

Please detail the protocol. 

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

I don't know why I'd post this to someone so myopic as to think that scientific study itself is predicated on lies (but at least we're getting to the root of your paranoia).

Anyway: the USSR tracked and confirmed Apollo manned missions to the moon.

Anyway: lunar rock fragments are sometimes fall to Earth, thus we can compare them to Apollo samples; lunar rock is rather different than terrestrial rock owing to different formative processes. Got it?

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

There's no way to fake a lunar rock--we can't make them here on Earth. And before you say lunar rocks found on Earth could be substituted, that's impossible. A lunar meteorite would show signs of atmospheric heating and terrestrial contamination. Apollo samples were placed in boxes and sealed on the lunar surface to preserve them in a vacuum.

There is not one reputable scientist or engineer who spouts the things you do. Not ONE--why is that? Answer.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@UnlovedChassis

...don't doubt the moonlanding. It would be difficult to pay your mortgage otherwise, wouldn't it?

How would you function in an 'engineering/science' type of environment if you KNEW, as countless people with common sense and some processing skills KNOW, that the moonlanding is false?

Your entire reality would collapse...

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@UnlovedChassis

The only reason you can pull off not looking like a COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS DELUDED ASS is that as many people, you know which side your bread is buttered and that it's safer to stay in line with authority, no matter how ludicrous, insane or toxic the lie.

There is no merit to 'your' position at all but I grant you immediately that the majority is on your side -which is typically considered a strong argument by 'science/engineering' types.

Consensus of the majority = truth.

[MadHighway]

@suddenlyitsobvious

No, truth is independent of "willathepeepul" or, as you put it, "consensus of the majority." Science has shown us time and again that "consensus of the majority" is sometimes wildly inaccurate.

The moon landings are truth and coincidentally "consensus of the majority."

[MadHighway]

@UnlovedChassis

Interestingly, Collins has said that the space program "needs more English majors" because he later felt frustrated that he and other astronauts could not speak eloquently and engagingly to the public about their experiences in orbit and on the moon.

[JGKreations]

Of course it was fake. Come on people. With 40+ year old technology we should be going in half the time at half the price. Name one piece of technology that, since it's creation, has stopped advancing. TV's? Cell Phones? Automobiles? Computers? No everything gets better and cheaper as time goes on. Except of course the Apollo Missions. Been there done that!

[datzfast]

does everybody know the NASA director quite his job 3 days before the moon landing launch? i wonder what military secrets he knew? or was that the reasoning of a small child, you know quite your job, and retirement so all your hard work and credit goes to someone else. i bet jo gogo has the answer.

[TheDrac3000]

Blackout--0:27 to 0:35 buzz Aldrin is blacked out, why.....because it shows him kicking Neil A. underneath the table when he gets off of script, and starts to say something that he is not supposed to say....find the long version on this video, you will see it for yourself....I don't know if they went or not, but it doesn't take a psychiatrist to know that all these guy's are lying and hiding something.

[TheJomogogo]

Someone needs to beat the crap out of that queer Bart Sibrel. The way he chases the Apollo astronauts around is a crime.

[datzfast]

@TheJomogogo oh come, he makes more sinse than the military men do. i heard one astronut say its not treason if your ordered to lie. thats all i needed to hear to convince me they were under orders to lie.

[datzfast]

@The Jomogogo so an ex- military man cant touch a bible? im sure the military has chaplins. you know what, it makes more sense if they dont like getting caught.

[LunarTuner]

Astronaut gone wild? There are reasons why Sibrel has been arrested. Who chases someone to the grocery store for an interview? THAT'S wild! He mumbles nonsense about a transparency over the window of the Command Module. Just stupid. He suggests in his mental film that the astronauts are in low earth orbit. Sibrel never explains how entire continents can be identified in the image and why the clouds or land masses never move while in low earth orbit. He's just a beetle-headed asinine dimwit

[datzfast]

@Lunar Tuner its stupid unless you remember doing it. look if we didn't go, we deserve to know we didn't go. let the chips fall where they may i say. im got gonna judge these men if they lied, they had orders. what i cant understand being an doubter of a god is why these men fear god so much? just rest your hand on a black book and tell the same lie you do every day. its unexplainable.

[LunarTuner]

@datzfast, Asking someone to swear on the Bible is just another way of saying, "I don't believe your personal integrity." The reason most a-nauts didn't fall for Sibrel's command is because they don't respect his lying, bait-and-switch tactic to getting an interview under false pretense. He insulted them!

[BR177]

mike collins pure class... cool guy

[crazyknight2008]

dont worry, in 30-50 years time when all of the astronuats from apollo 11- apollo 17 are dead THEN we will have the truth lol..is it so hard to beleive that these people Never went to the moon, considering the cold war ect of the time.The only reason americans would think these people went to the moon is because they cant handle the truth, that their goverment would lie to them and con / scam them all...

[tracyterry]

mike collins is cool

[SeraphimSadie]

On your next confrontation, you might want to think about the religious beliefs of these men. Some might think its "Wacky" to swear on something, "The Bible", they don't believe in. I love your approach and your in your face method, but use something different than the bible.

[greenmagoos]

Actually I'm sure they spent three weeks preparing for this acting performance.

LOOK confused BOYS.

[greenmagoos]

Will are you in contact with Gus Grissoms boy because I think Apollo 1 will were killed in a covert mission 24 hrs before the accident which was a staged event to cover the covert nature of the mission Grissom, Chafee and White were actually sent on.

[greenmagoos]

Will don't you think there's more to this press conference?

Were they told to shut it? I've got on very good authority they were brainwashed on return and Apollo 11 if they actually landed there had been and returned at least a month before the Saturn V was launched.

ALL MILITARY MISSIONS---TOP SECRET!

[Ginandor]

On good authority? The Easter bunny isn't too reliable and I have no faith in the Tooth Fairy either, so if any of them are your sources, I'd try asking somebody else. Have you considered speaking to your Doctor? Maybe he needs to tweak the dosage of something a little.

[greenmagoos]

What a wit.