How to eliminate Xbox 360 steering wheel free play, get ready for Forza 3 (16Oct2009)

[Skurai477]

cool video man, u r crafty



[jono14219]

Nice work will keep this idea in mind thanks .

[PoshGamer]

i always forget to check my fitment.

[dreammoney101]

thats true , id really love to do this but it just looks like a shit ton of work to do , and it looks like someone that has some what of experience with this stuff can only do it , or shud be doing it , it is really easy to fuck up the steering wheel by doing stuff like this,even showing this video i bet you most kids that own this wheel would fuck the wheel up, after seeing the new logitech g27 im throwing in the towel an selling both my xbox and my wheel and purchasing the ps3 and the logitech

[tunea440]

Excellent video. Thx so much for the upload!

[jonboy274]

Sorry!, just watched your vid again and my pcb is in a different place to yours! As I said before, I had to remove mine!. Cheers again, all play now gone!

[jonboy274]

Done the mod, thanks, but you failed to mention you had to remove pcb as the back of the motor fouls it, and also with an 8 mm hole running through the tube, I couldn't get the steering wheel wire back through. So had to drill it out to 8.5 mm. Just a suggestion, thanks for the vid!

[sw9kids]

Thumbs up who saw his weed disk!

[L3G3NDARYK1LL3R]

@sw9kids If you're talking about in 2:14 the yellow thing... that's a sponge with water in it for the solder I believe.

[MrWORRIA]

Fake!

[XRHSTYLER]

what is this kind of drift hack?

[158158cow]

OR you go to settings in game...

[rbcrazyriderrb]

instead of the metal tube i can get a toilet paper holder hahaha

[davegpz900r]

hi thanks for putting this up i have just made the tube and put my wheel back together and its why better no play at all , i made my tube a shade bigger and pressed it in so i didnt have to solder it . thanks for the fix because its been driving me mad

[louiswun]

@davegpz900r I'm only an amature, I guess your way is better.

[aRomanSoldier]

So how about all that Fitment?

Must be 20 gallons worth!

[pinchemain00]

why are you getting ride of the force feed back

are you a retard

[levelvtl]

@pinchemain00 He's getting rid of the free play you dumb

[pinchemain00]

@levelvtl is that the little bit of play in the middle my bad

[levelvtl]

@pinchemain00 Yes it is, like you can move your steering up and down a little... and when there is a lot of vibration (like in dirt) is makes a lot of noise and isn't smooth at all.

[pinchemain00]

@levelvtl out of doing all of this though is it worth it

[levelvtl]

@pinchemain00 I don't know, but I would do the bering mod if I disassemble all my steering wheel... I'm planning to do this mod, I'm searching for a good bering...

[KenotsuEX]

Don't they have one with force feedback?

[louiswun]

@KenotsuEX Yes, it is force feedback

[Pentazemin]

I suggest u get a Logitech G27 and Gran Turismo 5

[GrandDesignsSims]

I think he just improved the movement of the wheel by removing the movement that I have noticed (How it acts like there is a gap) Now if Only I could work out what is causing the pedals for my controler to be unresponcive...

[adambou12]

i still dont know what you done

[joshuaracecar]

you destroyed a perfectly good steering wheel.

[madmax2069]

@joshuaracecar no he repaired a failing steering wheel, a good steering wheel would not have the free play in it nor would it need to be fixed.

[ThePurpleDrumStick]

what does this do?

[SpooKiiEE]

why not make the plastic holder out of metal aswell ?

[elitewarrior24]

Which steering wheel is this ?

[madmax2069]

@elitewarrior24 the MS one

[b009052]

Thanks 'oP

[420Honey]

I've driven so many shit boxes I wouldnt know what to do if there wasn't any play...

[madmax2069]

@forgotyoured how does he have no life because he repaired a failing wheel ?

[qazqaz112]

I want to do this, but with F1 comming in a week, i cannot afford to mess things up, so i think i will wait untill i have played some f1 :P

[qazqaz112]

Is that 49mm or 40mm ?

[louiswun]

@qazqaz112 Tube total length 96mm (slimer side + wider side), internal diameter 8mm all the way, slimer side outer diameter 10mm X 40mm long, wider side outer diameter 11mm X 56mm long.

[dhstandard22]

@louiswun do you know how to fix the problem where the steering wheel is off centered (mine about 10 degrees) when the forcefeedback kicks in.

[louiswun]

@dhstandard22 may be the steering postion sensor is off 1 tooth, check the photo in my video at 2:24, I had also off centered at the first time reassemble.

[rewindablender]

does the wheel have 900 degrees turning?

[louiswun]

@rewindablender No, not 900 degree

[shane239two]

That is excellent, but how the how did you figure out how to do that?

[louiswun]

@shane239two Just open up and check for any worn, and found that the original hub design is too weak, so I decided to make a shaft to limit it's free play.

[shane239two]

@louiswun see if i opened it up i would just mess it all up and lose all the little bits and nether but it back together again lol

[greenmonkey967]

Why the hell does anyone care about something like that

[dangomanx]

i bough a wheel without  freeplay and i wanted freeplay .. do i just take it off??

[Skurai477]

wow, ur good

[twostickmapex]

um do u have any other mods like maby how to make the streeing wheel turn 900 degress or more then the stick one is cuzz its pissing me off lol but thnsk for the vid hoepfully when i get mine ill do this

[stratwarrior]

well thought out and executed,

[driftforce015]

i want 2 find out how 2 make my wheel 900°!

[carfanactic112]

Need a new pedal connector. That connects to the steerinf wheel any ideas cnt return. It needs a special cord regulat cords dnt work help plz!!!!!

[louiswun]

@carfanactic112 .......I don't get your meaning, describe more?

[zombieland111]

@louiswun he is asking where he can get another cord that goes from the steering wheel to the pedals and he cant return his wheel for a new one

doesn’t spelling right make things easier

[louiswun]

@zombieland111 oh...why not ask your local official xbox dealer ?!?!

[oliverdowning]

@zombieland111 It's a standard dsl cable mate. Any electronics store will sell them. Just ask for DSL cable.

[brunosso]

Can you redraw the imaga of the metal tube, with the quote more readable?

[louiswun]

@brunosso

Material is steel.

Tube total length 96mm (slim side + wider side), internal diameter 8mm all the way, slim side outer diameter 10mm X 40mm long, wider side outer diameter 11mm X 56mm long.

[ARBuilder1776]

Machine shop my ass. Home Depot and buy a bolt that fits in the hole and trim it down. Wrap the bolt in some good ole duct tape if you have to and your set.

[mikezhao888]

My wheel can turn on these days...

when I plug it, the light turns on but I cant turn it on.

Does any one know how to fix it~~

orz,

[chip1cob]

I got a force feedback steering wheel yesterday, and I honestly thought it was broke with the play in the wheel, it looks like a really easy thing to fix. the manufacturer should fix it.

[Windurster]

I totally agree with shalashaskasaiz and gunny556fly, I wouldn't risk to ruin the racing wheel, because it works fine with the 360 wireless receiver for pc :)

[louiswun]

You can say this when your Xbox wheel is still new...but no, the center hub will got loose when only slight worn out was found ...now all of my xbox friend want me to help them to kill the free play.

[louiswun]

The problem is it's design, the center shaft inside the hub is too short and it will become loose, too much free play on the steering wheel like a joy stick

[ARBuilder1776]

@louiswun MS never screws up a design.

BWUHAHAAHAAHH Ok I tried not to laugh when I said that but I couldnt help it.

Oh crap RROD Again!!!!

[gunny556fly]

well im pretty sure not alot of people are going to risk ruining there $100 racing wheel just because it has a little play

[TheMattmoo47]

thats a shit load of effort for something so small

[louiswun]

If you prefere the steering loosen like a joystick...then go on

[Lctsforce]

@louiswun Lol Im lost, But do I need to buy a tube thing, Or what. I didnt get it plz tell me.

[louiswun]

@Lctsforce Just go to a machinary shop and ask them to make one for you.

[KonaStuff08]

@TheMattmoo47 : That's what she said. Ahaa.

[TheMattmoo47]

original lol.

[KonaStuff08]

@TheMattmoo47: I couldn't resist. :P

[jap989]

@TheMattmoo47

Thats exactly what I was thinking bro!

[FeeLtheHertZ]

@TheMattmoo47 Haha, I'm about to try it, and do it, because these small things can make an appreciable difference.

[underoath0513]

@TheMattmoo47 thats what she said...

[soulcleanser]

this coupled with the Bearing mod. I think i got something.

[louiswun]

Good, that what I think in the begining.

At the very first begining, I also want to combine two bearing into this design, but the plastic hub needs to be precision drilling, to cut away some material from the plastic hub inner hole, but it seems that the plastic hub material is not strong enought to hold the bearing tight, so I just use the tube and give up the bearing, but it still works fine !

[soulcleanser]

you should check out lococnc. he has a very good tut on how to machine all the parts. i was thinking about heating the hub to expand it enough for the bearing to fit. I don't know if that would work.

[ji3200]

just get a fanatec turbo s wheel. its compatible with 360,ps3,pc. much better forcefeedback than microsoft or g27 wheel.

[550starfox]

+10

[SpicyMeatballl]

kids, dont try this at home

[SuperColossal33]

do you use the 360 wheel for PC or Xbox?

[louiswun]

This is only for Xbox360

[shalashaskasaiz]

Problems with your 360 wheel under Windows?

[louiswun]

360 wheel only avaliable to use on xbox360 only

[shalashaskasaiz]

If you buy de Xbox 360 receiver you can use the racing wheel and the wireless controller under Windows, I did.

[louiswun]

I have never use my computer to play games, so I did not try.

[abbscarface]

lol how the hell am i gonna build a tube from scratch like that? nice work thou, if that happened to my steering wheel, ill just go out and buy a new one.

[louiswun]

The metal tube could done by metal works shop, just a simple work for them.

[untamedkhmai]

im thinking of getting that wheel becouse fanatec 911 wheel is a bit too pricey for me.i wanna know if its a good buy,if it plays well an if it has a deadzone.if it does,can it be fixed thru the settings??reply back if you can thanks

[louiswun]

It plays well, but not 900 degree turning, I don't understand waht is "dead zone", the fix in this video is not fixing the dead zone, but fixing the loose steering hub.

[mercantigo]

Hi

What u mean by "free play" effect? The wheel dont come back, it is?

[louiswun]

No, after a period of time, the center hub of the steering wheel will become loose, feels like a joystick (not turning the steering wheel but hold tight, feels like a see saw), except that, all steering wheel fuction and effect had no problem. If you search the video of Xbox steering wheel, especially while in the middle of a game, you will see that free play !

[emokiller17]

what is free play :S

[louiswun]

The steering hub (center shaft) will have free play after playing a preiod of time.

[FeeLtheHertZ]

@emokiller17 Where the wheel wiggles and doesn't feel as completely solid as it could.

[StedySniper]

i would try this but something makes me thinm that might void the warranty

[louiswun]

My Xbox 360 steering wheel warranty is expired already. I did not use it for over a year due to too much free play in its original design, and I want to fix it befor Forza 3 launch.