David Cameron's Defense policy, a seat for himself, his family and other Conservative and Lib Dem big wigs and their families on a requisitioned British Airways Boeing 777 departing London Heathrow destination Bermuda, before the first Iranian ten kiloton yield range nuke detonates over London. Put the Nimrod MRA4 in to service, keep the Harrier GR9 in service, maintain RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Kinloss as operational military airbases and kick Mr Cameron out of 10 Downing Street.
lol people think they have a choice. When are the sheep going to wake up and realize they are run by the illuminati. This is just to let you think you have a choice. Same lies for 40 years. The public deserve to get fucked as they just vote the same lying bastards in every time. We all know what conservative did last time. So why would you let these fuckers do it to us again. ILLUMINATI SCUM BAGS
lol people think they have a choice. When are the sheep going to wake up and realize they are run by the illuminati. This is just to let you think you have a choice. Same lies for 40 years. The public deserve to get fucked as they just vote the same lying bastards in every time. We all know what conservative did last time. So why would you let these fuckers do it to us again. ILLUMINATI SCUM BAGS
Read the World Wealth Report 2009.Over 99% of tory voters would not be affected with a Future Fair For All fair redistribution of wealth.Crazy? Vote Labour.
Before you vote ask yourselves where is all the money? A vast amount of wealth is being hoarded by the ultra wealthy as the World Wealth report 2009 shows.Will David Cameron funded by a billionaire redistribute a fair amount of this wealth?Not in 33,000,000,000,000(thirty three thousand billion) years! Inexperienced Nick Clegg ? No! Only Gordon Brown Has the guts and Personality to sort out the bankers and billionaires.
USA 9.4, France 8.9, Germany 7.7, Italy 6.9, UK 6.9, Japan 4.8.
Gross Public Debt % of GDP:
Japan 170.4, Italy 103.7, France 67, Germany 62.6, USA 60.8 UK 53.2.
Tories scaremongering about the UK deficit and liking us to Greece is a cynical ploy to get their hands on power to aid the rich. Vote Labour to guide our country to prosperity for the many not just the wealthy few.
What is vast wealth? £1,000,000,000(0ne billion pounds) out of a multi-billionaires fortune would give every person in a 100,000 Wembley football crowd £10,000.How many multi-billionaires going down in wealth to £100,000,000(A one hundred million millionaire) are there.If money truly makes the world go around.this should be common knowledge.The extremely wealthy few?No!The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
What is vast wealth? £1,000,000,000(0ne billion pounds) out of a multi-billionaires fortune would give every person in a 100,000 Wembley football crowd £10,000.How many multi-billionaires going down in wealth to £100,000,000(A one hundred million millionaire) are there.If money truly makes the world go around.this should be common knowledge.The extremely wealthy few?No!The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
A change of government will not change the country; what is needed is an end to the rotton system that prevails! The difference between Cameron, Osborne and associates, and that of an ordinary member of the general public or indeed a chav; does not arise so much from nature, as from custom, habit and education. When the Bullingdon boys came into the world, and for the first five years of their lives; they were perhaps very much similar to the Ordinary people of Britain.
samantha cameron walks around on the campaign trail like she is lady muck or something, who the hell does she think she is, just cause she is david cameron's wife !! woo !! 1
We know how we got to this situation.Which politician is more likely to see the solution as opening the floodgates on the billionaires accumulated wealth to ease our financial woes.David Cameron who is funded by a billionaire? You must be joking! Inexperienced Nick Clegg? No! Gordon Brown tackling the bankers and billionaires.What a delicious thought.
People please read The World Wealth Report 2009.David Cameron says two hard years.The money to sort out our problems now is in The World Wealth Report 2009.Tell as many people as you can to read this report and then decide which party is going to tackle this huge imbalance of wealth distribution.
We know how we got to this situation.Which politician is more likely to see the solution as opening the floodgates on the billionaires accumulated wealth to ease our financial woes.David Cameron who is funded by a billionaire? You must be joking! Inexperienced Nick Clegg? No! Gordon Brown tackling the bankers and billionaires.What a delicious thought.
Labour's contempt even for their own voters runs right the way through.
Do you think Labour peoples' communist pasts, paedo tendencies or treason were bad enough? You take a look at the Reds' bashing of Christianity, cashing in on still-legal drugs and plotting with the Libs to stay in power even if the Tories win!
Even other Lefties hate them for their warmongering!
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Samantha is wonderful! The last time I spoke to her she promised David would help us business people make more profit by abolishing the Minimum Wage which all Conservatives were against when labour introduced it. Why should unskilled workers earn so much ? The Liberals want to reduce the amount of tax they pay. It's so unfair when Labour want me to pay 50% tax on my earnings!
@SuperToryboy unskilled workers often do hard,unpleasant,and on occasion dangerous jobs that you yourself would be unprepared to do.what do you do for a living ?
@Garvain66 I have people working for me in the hotel business. I play golf and enjoy life like most Conservatives. If working class people want to vote for the Conservatives then let them, although I really don't know why they do?
@SuperToryboy I agree with you on the last pointwere your parents wealthy? or did you spring up from povertymy guess the former.hence your inability to empathise with lose less fortunate
The conservatives run this country for people like me. Why should we pay pension credits to people who have not prepared for their retirement? Also, heating allowances. If they can't afford it they should switch off and wear plenty of clothing. It's simple! Child allowance is a waste, parents only spend it on binge drinking so it's good that's going. The conservatives could resolve two problems at the same time. Stop binge drinking and anti social behaviour by stopping tax credits.
@SuperToryboy heating allowance?with a bit of luck thousands of poor and needy(OAPsincluded)will die from hyperthermia.Just think of the reduced tax burden for wankers like you!
@Garvain66 I speak for all Conservatives. "One should look after oneself!" Obviously you should vote Labour or Liberal who look after working and middle class people but not people like me, true blue Conservatives.
@SuperToryboy all parents who recieve child allowance are alcoholics,much is made of the loony left but you are I suspect a right wing lunatic par excellence
I am just an spectator, and very interestingly the media and the election polls are always in favoured Cameron. Are these run by conservative representatives? just interested in british politics
@anijijapan1975 the mass media is extremely biassed,mainly because they are owned by self interested billionaires.they will probably do enough to hoodwink many of the British electorate,encourage apathy and encourage the worst kinds of bigotry with half information and lie.
Cool. I've been to Yorkshire but why does no one ever come to where I live ¬_¬ Oh yeah but I suppose them French people I saw on the train came, and those Americans.......
Perhaps Samantha would care to inform us of her own background? We are all aware of those Old Etonians and Bullingdon chums: Cameron and Osborne, but what of her own family the Astors? Those very people who made vast amounts of money from slum-landlording. Perhaps she would like to tell us about her father, that Old Etonian and 8th baronet Sir Reginald Adrian Berkeley Sheffield?
@ssurreydocks Perhaps she would like to inform us of her stepfather, that Old Etonian Sir William Waldorf Astor, the 4th Viscount? Or perhaps she would like to spill the beans on her Grandfather Robert Charles berkeley Sheffield, that Old Etonian and self-satisfied pompous apologist of fascism?
@ssurreydocks Perhaps Samantha would like to inform us of her cousin, that Old Etonian Sir Ferdinand Mount, who was head of Thatcher`s policy unit? There can be no place, for a British parliament of today, to be a parliament of privilege.
I think we're all agreed it's time for a change but Cameron is the only man who can deliver what he promises. By the way for any die hard Cameron fans there's a great t-shirt on eBay - item number 320517294920.
Last time Tory were in power: Child poverty tripled Millions lost their Jobs Millions lost their houses Homophobic laws were introduced Public companies were sold off They slashed spending on the public sector Pensions were cut Child benifit was cut by 21% Income tax on the wealthiest was cut by 40% Millions of homes were reposessed. Don't talk to us about change. We want a peopes party, we don't want you.
@HexDragon thats right, a peoples party that steals your private pension, a peoples party that scraps the lowest tax band hitting the lowest paid hardest, a party that supports mass immigration which results in 1 in 4 jobs going to immigrants, a party that wants to introduce a tax on jobs, a party that has created the largest peacetime debt the UK has ever seen, A party for the people.
@markyboy1704 I'm voting Liberal Democrats or Green peace. I don't particurly think much of labour recently, but in comparrison to the Tory's they are a godsend, and despite what you think, when they came into power in 1997 they the country a lot of good.
@HexDragon I have sympathy for some though not all Lib Dem and Green Policies myself but for this electio0n you need to consider if they have a realistic chance of getting in your constituency otherwise that will gift victory to the mTories and months down the line you will wonder what you have done
@markyboy1704 back in the 80s Weinstock bought a company I worked for and plundered millions from our Pension fund, my understanding is that this is not an isolated incident.trust me .asset strippers and bent Directors are a far greater problem
@HexDragon here ,here I've had enough of wasting my time with stupid Tories I am proud to be a socialist because I care for people less fortunate than myself rather than be a selfish Cu*t,I have well above average intelligence,I am an extremely talented artist(painter/sculptor)with strong work and academic related skills.I don't fit the profile of a loser,it is just my values set me above Camerons arseholes
So millions of people colud be eligible for discounted shares under Tory plans to privatise bailed-out banks. Osborne is keen to encourage first time shared ownership and give the taxpayer the opportunity to make a return on their forced investments. I suspect that it is not going to be the ordinary people of Britain who will have the means to invest heavily in the newly privatised banks. It`ll be those from a more powerful community and those who have come across their capital via plunder.
"Lovely lambs" you say? Sounds like dinner... Then onto Autism, what a smooth transition. Lol... What the hell does this have to do with British Politics, or even gardening..?
why have you took my comment of when i said all MPs are bent abd should be lock up the fact you took this off will stop me voteing . if we cant have our say it just shows you dont givedam about us really
why have you took my comment of when i said all MPs are bent abd should be lock up the fact you took this off will stop me voteing . if we cant have our say it just shows you dont givedam about us really
@yorkshiretractors I don't agree all MPS are corrupt but it is an unfortunate fact there were MPs on both sides who were and more than probably are.some enter politics for firmly held beliefs and convictions others are less scrupulous if not actively criminalI can't tell you how to vote or indeed should I but given that people died fighting for the right to vote(suffragettes/war dead etc) you perhaps should have your say be that Tory,Lib Dem,Labour or one of the other parties
Whatever "facts" anyone claims, the reality is that Tories have done exactly what the BNP have done - repackaged themselves. They still want to wreck the country, they still hate gay people, and they still want to make things worse for people who have lost their jobs, especially if they have a family. VOTE LIB DEMS - lesser of 3 evils, so to speak
@Superapplefrog very observant the rise in the BNP are really just right wing torys who believe that David is now a "supersoft lefty" and Nick Griffin is now a littl e less extreme. Both of which are complete nonsense. The fact they are both trying to seem more moderateby a lean to the left shows us one thing.. that is were the majoirty of voters are far left of their real agendas. There are two parties in this nation worth voting for The lib dems and Labour,
@ucokcouk Whilst I do agree that voting Labour is better than Tories, realistically they got no chance - they've had years to sort out the juctice system, they've sent people to be tortured in other countries (regardless of whether they're guilty of a crime or not), one of their own members (Walter Wolfgang if you wanna look up the story) was detained under the Terrorism Act and I.D. cards will help, etc etc etc
@Superapplefrog oh I agree with you on the Libetarian front absolutely which is why we need an oposition that would acutally work against those things instead of voting for them and then speaking out against them at election time like Cameron and his buddies do. The Tory's would have done all those things mate and I agree it is disgusting the fact is the City holds the power and tells the government what to do... but at least Labour will sneak a few things through on our behalf.
@Superapplefrog I can see the logic to that argument in honesty. Both Brown and Clegg have very rational arguments that I can see the benefit of. I have an equal level of respect for both Liberal and Labour voters.
Honestly, i don't think i've ever read anything so crazy. Your rhetoric may work amongst drunken clubs, but such a poor understanding of political theory is evident in public forums.
@LeftwingLibertarian The only thing evident here is that you have presented nothing but an unsubstantiated opinion. The opinions I have expressed are Left-wing libertarian and you call my crazy even though it's your name sake? Bit bizarre really isn't it? If you want to be taken seriously in a "public forum" present a tangible fact for debate don't degrade it to mud slinging not sure about "drunken clubs" but it might work in a Zoo.
@Superapplefrog didn't Labour do that in 97 (Nu Labour) yet we are back to the same old labour governing outcome, bankrupt, high unemployment and record taxes and record benefit claimants..................
@markyboy1704 didn't they do what? Labour did actually do SOME good (increase sentence for rape, introduce more support for those struggling financially, introduce Sure Start centres, campaign for more teachers in schools especially in priority subjects, etc.) - but they've done a lot of bad and Tories were worse. NEVER have Lib Dems even been given a chance - but now they have a chance; let's help them win. And benefits help those who would otherwise starve
@Superapplefrog yeh, what about the man with skitzophrenia from Irag who murdered 2 doctors, the government could not send him back to Iraq because he posed a threat to his fellow countrymen.
Many more cases where murderers, child rapists, all immigrants have been given leave to stay because of their human rights, Labour endorsed human rights.
The Lib Dems will be worse than Labour, they will hand over power to the EU.
@markyboy1704 what about the many English rapists, murderers, child molestors, who have got crap sentences CUS OF JUDGES, NOT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT. Perhaps you should look up the act - it EXPLICITLY allows judges to overrule parts of the act for the purposes of security and crime prevention. We have held human rights dear for centuries. You don't want human rights? Then stop insulting the memory people who died for them in this country and go elsewhere
@Superapplefrog if so, that makes even more a mockery of the governments attempts to deport immigrant criminals.
The human rights act has made judges helpless in the fight against crime.
Remember, before Labour in 97 we never had a human rights act, it was never needed.
You insult all the troops who died in 2 world wars to give us freedom without human rights laws, now these laws protect criminals and victimise the victims.
@markyboy1704 why is it that Tories always claim the credit for winning the first and second world war?...the Liberals took us into the first and a Coalition government WON the second
Winston Churchill was hammered at the election in 1945 and Labour should have won in 1951 because they got more votes...you should ask the question why..
my great grandfather fought at the Somme and Ypres and he voted Labour and others Tory/Labour and communist fought against Hitler
@markyboy1704 the Tories already did that ...it was Ted Heath (Conservative) who took us in ....the Tories want to subsidise farmers even if they produce food we don't need but they are against workers rights and don't want health and safety at work
@Garvain66 you mean health & safety that does not permit an ordinary member of staff to change a lightbulb, or the health and safety that ensures risk assessment when using a crane to move heavy loads in a yard....................big difference between the two.
@Garvain66 It's these very health & safety companies that have influenced have piled on massive expenses for businesses with ridiculous legislation.
The Tories never took us into a Federal Europe, even Thatcher warned about giving up our currency which will be a realistic possibility with the Liberals.
@markyboy1704 I appreciate the claims direct nonsense but nevertheless when workers are decapitated or crushed at work through criminal negligence somebody should pay especially if it is through negligence
@markyboy1704 no the Tories took us into Europe even though it was at the time against the National interest more expensive food ,unjustifiable subsidies for farming-compare and contrast with the economic arguments for closing the pits and manufacturing
@Garvain66 since 1997 British laws have been handed over to Europe, approx 80% of all laws & 50% of major laws have been given to Brussels by Labour.
As for subsidies, the French & Germans carve up the majority of Farming subsidies.
Closing the pits....................yes it was needed, as for manufacturing, well Britain has never had a nationalised manufacturing facility, all private, including Rover after it was subsidised.
@markyboy1704a) the main reason the Tories squeal about EU laws is because many are designed to protect ordinary people from exploitation and abuse by employersb)subsidies.utter bollocks the NFU is the most militant and powerful UNION in this countryc)the pits would have been economic if they had been subsidised like the coal of our competitors and if they had not been forced By the Tories to sell for a price below its worth by the power stations etc
@markyboy1704 I worked for Plessey whose main customer in the 70s was the Post Office(then nationalised)at the time this country was world leaders in telecommunications but after the taxpayer substantial investment the Tories privatised BT for less than it was worth,shortchanging the taxpayer.
@markyboy1704 This undermined Plesseys market.Plessey was in turn bought out by Weinstock of GEC(an asset stripper who plundered the workers pension funds)when I started 4,000 worked on the shop floor in 85 in 91, 250 were left I suggest you do a little more homework because you don't know what you are talking about.go back to school
@Garvain66 In July 1997, the new Labour Government relinquished its Special Share ("Golden Share"), retained at the time of the flotation, which had effectively given it the power to block a takeover of the company, and to appoint two non-executive directors to the Board.
Plessey just like a lot of other companies milked the government contracts just like BAE do now, it needed stopping and Thatcher stopped it.
@Garvain66 The trouble with companies like yours and people like you, is that you expect the state teat to keep feeding you work. get real, I was a miner and it was disgraceful the way money was wasted in the pits, taxpayers money, this happened and still does in the Nuclear & Defence sector and it needs stopping.
@Garvain66 really.................well to be honest i don't really care what YOU think, but lets just say this, my Grandads were miners, my dad was a miner, 2 our of my 3 uncles were miners, my father in law was a miner, and all worked in the largest coalfield in the midlands, apporx 30 pits at one time.
Now you run off like a good boy and get those Labour leaflets delivered to your socialist cronies doors.
@markyboy1704 I find it hard to believe you worked down the pits unless it was as a pit pony with your level of reasoning you were obviously oblivious to the fact that under nationalisation we had the most efficient and productive deep mine pits in the world.explain to me you dipshit why the pits were nationalised during the war.ANSWER because we needed increased production for our war production END OFSTORY!Enemy within ....F**k OFF
@markyboy1704 given your background fictitious(I suspect) or otherwise I find it hard to understand why you should be in bed with the bastards who closed so many pits the Miners beat the Tories in the 70s so the Tories closed the pits which was against the national interest.this country has a dangerous over reliance on overseas energy and in the not too distant we will have a shortage of energy unless radical action is taken
@Garvain66 i worked on supplies, tell your uncle, he'll know what i mean.
Scargill was offered a deal brokered by Neal Kinnock, which Thatcher agreed to have each pit independantly assessed to determine if it could be made profitable, if not it closed.
Scargill turned the offer down without even putting the offer to us, the membership.
Scargill was a traitor in my eyes, I agree, we need to sort our own reliance on power and food, we are too reliant on other for countless resource.
@markyboy1704 I am with you in that Scargill was a bad leader and that there SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NATIONAL BALLOT but if there had been a MAJORITY.ALL the Notts Miners should have gone on strike.I do believe the strike was deliberately provoked and the stockpiles of coal,employment of Macgregor etc proved that the situation had been engineered.
@Garvain66 contrary to the obnoxious assertion that the Miners were the enemy within,the miners at their best were tough and of stoic character,and many lay down their lives for this country and it was qualities like these that put the great in GREAT BRITAIN,the Tories and management at their worst sacrifice quality and long term interest in favour of a short term killing A something for nothing society
@Garvain66 It was industry that made this country great; and in particular it was the abundance of coal that fuelled the industrial revolution. That great leader Churchill was famous for great quotations: Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few". "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat". Let us not forget that it was a Tory who set the troops on the Miners and the railwaymen in 1926.
@max31198 if you research Ernest Bevin's role during the war you will understand why I say he was THE GREATEST HOME SECRETARY THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD
@max31198 The fact is British workers outperformed their German counterparts during the war and what is more Albert Speer who wasMinister of Armaments and War Production for the Third Reich(his opposite number)
@max31198 the mistake reactionary managers make is that you tend not to motivate your workforce with fear,brutality and by paying woeful wages and least not in the long term.you earn contempt and disloyalty
@max31198 Ernest Bevin was illegitimate and born into great hardhip but at this countries hour of need he understood odinary working people and their motivations far more so than his colleague Winston Churchill and that was why he was able to understand the "bigger picture" and introduce works canteens and music at work to raise morale
@max31198 a happy workforce tends to be a more productive workforce and that is one of the many errors of so much British Management who think that bullying and saving on training and safety considerations is sound management
@Garvain66 Chil Gar, i just said you need a leader, i didn't say they should whip the workers. Relax. However you don't see many statues of sucessful committees. Thats all I am saying
@Garvain66 I think Joe Gormley would`ve seconded that. Although I agree that the Notts miners should have come out, it must be bourne in mind that the NUM was infact a federation. I am proud to say that during the whole dispute, not one ounze of coal moved on the railway.
@markyboy1704 the problem with unions is that they are composed of people.the same can be said of management.I've been told on good authority that management in the 70s theives at British Leyland were not confronted but they were afraid of upsetting the unions.This said at the same time although there were idiots in the movement there was much good done by unions
@Garvain66 my father was a Vice Convenor and the Dept he was Shop Steward for where the best paid on site.but a good general can't bargain for something unless they offer something in return.His department delivered exceptional productivity and exceptional quality,they won the Queens award for British Industry and you don't get that for playing tiddlywinks
@markyboy1704 my unclie was a sparky and post strike was a manager,his second eldest brother a face worker,and third brother a sparky,their father was a faceworker and my grandfather on my mothers side was a sparky,then engineer,then management.he personally extended the life of Bestwood Colliery by 15 years he volunteered as a navigator with the RAF and his brother earnt a DFC as a pilot.
@Garvain66 In Germany,Japan and France many companys have a greater emphasis on research and development and although profitable there is a smaller proportion put aside for profit.that is why British Leyland was often crap and everyone drives Audis,Mercs,Toyota,Fords Lexus and Nissans etc etc
@Garvain66 good management is worth its weight in gold but although specific union leaders were irresponsible part of the British disease is attrocious management.duff puchasing,bad organisation etc etc we used to be the workshop of the world and now we make very,very little and our economy is on very,very insecure ground and this has more to do with the emphasis on acountancy etc and balancesheets rather than sound work practice
@markyboy1704 my uncle had similar experience with the police at Orgreave.for many years although law abiding I had a deep suspision of the Police because they at times seemed under concerned with protecting working class neighbourhoods from the criminal elements and yet had every power to restrict democratic freedoms during the miners strike and other points of contention
@markyboy1704 the irony is that I am now friends with a former C.I. and my brother works for the police.I think most reasonable people of all views support their police but I do think at times they have been misused and I feel an enormous amount of damage was done to the reputation of the police during this period.they should be for all of us not a select few
@markyboy1704 I am sorry that you became so disillusioned with the Labour Movement during this period .I agree with you that Scargill was a vainglorious tosser
as you know the miners before the strike were a close knit community and I feel they and the country were sold short by poor leadership both of the Union(Scargill) and the country(Thatcher)
@Garvain66 Credit to Tebbit & Thatcher, they have openly admitted on record they were wrong about the speed of closures and that it should have been done over say a 10 year period, Scargill on the other hand said he has no regrets, don't need to say much more do we.
I'll never forgive the Labour party for allowing Brown to destroy 18 million pension provisions of ordinary hardworking Briits.
@Garvain66 As for the past which you mention, people are different now, they have aspirations of doing better. Thankfully the days have ended where a political party could stick a monkey up for election so long a it had the right colour rosette on people would vote for it.
@markyboy1704 there is nothing wrong with aspirations and progression based on merit my problem is with unscrupulous directors and bank mangerss etc that award themselves obscene pay despite woeful performance(declining market share,poor management etc).If you are wealthy or earning large amounts I can understand the resentment even if it is for selfish reasons but if you are a working class Tory on low wages with poor or dangerous conditions that is just plain stupidity
@Garvain66 It has come as no suprise that the directors of Barclays (seven of whom were educated at Eton together) have decided to pay out around £1.5 Billion in cash bonuses. However these elitists are still refusing to grant much needed loans to businesses. As the battle lines are drawn, cameron, Osborne and chums will tell public sector workers that they`re lucky to still be in employment. "After all businesses are going to the wall and people are lossing their jobs".
Indeed in upwards of 400 out of 650 seats - the result is pretty well already known. Several constituencies have not changed hands for over a 100 years.This is not democracy, This is not fair voting. Life is about negotiating, compromising and then agreeing - why should Government not be about that too?
So coalition govts are bad - who says. Certainly not the many European countries who have had them for decades. Why is 'strong' government so good - especially if it does not represent the will of the people? What we need is a system of voting that means we end up with a government that is broadly proportional to the votes cast. Our a system (so called 'First Past the Post') which means that most MPs have the majority of people voting against them.
I was going to vote, but i'm tired of all politicians and i honestly can't pick anybody i WANT to vote for, Labour, Lib Dems, Tories. They act like a bunch of children, seemingly all they can do is mud sling and name call, they act like idiotic kids who have something wrong with them in the house of commons, and all of these people are smarmy, two-faced liars. It would be two-faced of me if i WERE to vote, so i shall abstain. They're all as bad as one another.
The charity looks like it is doing some excellent work. It is good that Samantha Cameron has highlighted their work. I am a little concerned that she is not wearing her seat belt when the car is moving along.
to run a country. u have u to think of the people not money.. u have to care bout people and have compassion and love for everything... do these people have that?
OMG such propaganda.. This video has been smeared over every corner of youtube (showing who google have an obligation to). It was written a long while back that David would be the next priminister but things havn't gone as smooth as they thought.
@atlanticsimon i fail to see how a hung parliament would be bad. Of course David Cameron and the rest of his fools think its awful to persuade people to vote for them.
@joprix27 your failure to see what a hung parliament can do to the country in terms of damage clearly shows your intellect.
The city for a start will run for cover leaving the pound to free fall as confidence hits a low.
A weaker currency can create inflation problems, which would result in higher interest rates slowing down recovery..........................thats just for starters..................any more you want to know brainless?
1. I think it is slightly unfair that Boris Johnson who is clearly bias towards the Conservatives (for obvious reasons) to be able to try and attack other partys in such a mainstream form of media such as the Daily Telegraph on which he has an entire article to himself.
2. I think it is unfair that many people will not be able to watch the debate this week and we should not have to pay for Sky to see it.
Don't expect anything to change after the election whoever you vote for. All the main parties are loyal to organizations like Common Purpose, the Bilderberg group, the EU and the globalist banking cartel. All are aiding the subversion of the UK on behalf of the EU. All support the growing police state, the aggressive wars, the banker bailouts and the destruction of British freedom and sovereignty. The voting system is there to give the illusion of choice. Research the new world order.
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David Cameron's Defense policy, a seat for himself, his family and other Conservative and Lib Dem big wigs and their families on a requisitioned British Airways Boeing 777 departing London Heathrow destination Bermuda, before the first Iranian ten kiloton yield range nuke detonates over London. Put the Nimrod MRA4 in to service, keep the Harrier GR9 in service, maintain RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Kinloss as operational military airbases and kick Mr Cameron out of 10 Downing Street.
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Big Society = Common Purpose
Same thing.
The REAL name is 'Communitarianism' and 'Communitarian'.
Please research about it on the internet because it IS important, especially if you value your children's future.
ukpropaganda 1 year ago
Just heard the news congratulations on your baby david and Samantha
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Withnail1969 1 year ago
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Vote for Samantha Cameron now!! apps facebook com /firstlady
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lol people think they have a choice. When are the sheep going to wake up and realize they are run by the illuminati. This is just to let you think you have a choice. Same lies for 40 years. The public deserve to get fucked as they just vote the same lying bastards in every time. We all know what conservative did last time. So why would you let these fuckers do it to us again. ILLUMINATI SCUM BAGS
reptiledelight 1 year ago
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lol people think they have a choice. When are the sheep going to wake up and realize they are run by the illuminati. This is just to let you think you have a choice. Same lies for 40 years. The public deserve to get fucked as they just vote the same lying bastards in every time. We all know what conservative did last time. So why would you let these fuckers do it to us again. ILLUMINATI SCUM BAGS
reptiledelight 1 year ago
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Read the World Wealth Report 2009.Over 99% of tory voters would not be affected with a Future Fair For All fair redistribution of wealth.Crazy? Vote Labour.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
Ther can be no place, for a British parliament of today, to be a parliament of privilege!
surreydockskodyerrus 1 year ago
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vohshkab 1 year ago
Before you vote ask yourselves where is all the money? A vast amount of wealth is being hoarded by the ultra wealthy as the World Wealth report 2009 shows.Will David Cameron funded by a billionaire redistribute a fair amount of this wealth?Not in 33,000,000,000,000(thirty three thousand billion) years! Inexperienced Nick Clegg ? No! Only Gordon Brown Has the guts and Personality to sort out the bankers and billionaires.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
Unemployment Rate %:
USA 9.4, France 8.9, Germany 7.7, Italy 6.9, UK 6.9, Japan 4.8.
Gross Public Debt % of GDP:
Japan 170.4, Italy 103.7, France 67, Germany 62.6, USA 60.8 UK 53.2.
Tories scaremongering about the UK deficit and liking us to Greece is a cynical ploy to get their hands on power to aid the rich. Vote Labour to guide our country to prosperity for the many not just the wealthy few.
nerolyle 1 year ago
cameron is just light weight when it comes to economic policy though he is posh and rich eton guy. how he will connect to the poor people
anijijapan1975 1 year ago
On webcameronuk: 13 years of labour.The tory hornets are swarming and stinging everything in sight with their comments.lol
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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What is vast wealth? £1,000,000,000(0ne billion pounds) out of a multi-billionaires fortune would give every person in a 100,000 Wembley football crowd £10,000.How many multi-billionaires going down in wealth to £100,000,000(A one hundred million millionaire) are there.If money truly makes the world go around.this should be common knowledge.The extremely wealthy few?No!The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
The World Wealth Report 2009.The extremely wealthy few? No! The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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The World Wealth Report 2009.The extremely wealthy few? No! The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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The World Wealth Report 2009.The extremely wealthy few? No! The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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The World Wealth Report 2009.The extremely wealthy few? No! The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
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kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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What is vast wealth? £1,000,000,000(0ne billion pounds) out of a multi-billionaires fortune would give every person in a 100,000 Wembley football crowd £10,000.How many multi-billionaires going down in wealth to £100,000,000(A one hundred million millionaire) are there.If money truly makes the world go around.this should be common knowledge.The extremely wealthy few?No!The extremely wealthy many? Yes!
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kawasafs1e 1 year ago
A change of government will not change the country; what is needed is an end to the rotton system that prevails! The difference between Cameron, Osborne and associates, and that of an ordinary member of the general public or indeed a chav; does not arise so much from nature, as from custom, habit and education. When the Bullingdon boys came into the world, and for the first five years of their lives; they were perhaps very much similar to the Ordinary people of Britain.
surreydockskodyerrus 1 year ago 6
she pretends to care, so embarassing!!!
silverlightmove 1 year ago
samantha cameron walks around on the campaign trail like she is lady muck or something, who the hell does she think she is, just cause she is david cameron's wife !! woo !! 1
silverlightmove 1 year ago
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We know how we got to this situation.Which politician is more likely to see the solution as opening the floodgates on the billionaires accumulated wealth to ease our financial woes.David Cameron who is funded by a billionaire? You must be joking! Inexperienced Nick Clegg? No! Gordon Brown tackling the bankers and billionaires.What a delicious thought.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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A future fair for all. Or. It is time for change.One truthful. One vague and deceitful.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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People please read The World Wealth Report 2009.David Cameron says two hard years.The money to sort out our problems now is in The World Wealth Report 2009.Tell as many people as you can to read this report and then decide which party is going to tackle this huge imbalance of wealth distribution.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
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We know how we got to this situation.Which politician is more likely to see the solution as opening the floodgates on the billionaires accumulated wealth to ease our financial woes.David Cameron who is funded by a billionaire? You must be joking! Inexperienced Nick Clegg? No! Gordon Brown tackling the bankers and billionaires.What a delicious thought.
kawasafs1e 1 year ago
Labour's contempt even for their own voters runs right the way through.
Do you think Labour peoples' communist pasts, paedo tendencies or treason were bad enough? You take a look at the Reds' bashing of Christianity, cashing in on still-legal drugs and plotting with the Libs to stay in power even if the Tories win!
Even other Lefties hate them for their warmongering!
Click my username to view NEW LABOUR'S TOTALITARIAN ANTI-CHRIST DRUG DEALERS DESERVE AT LEAST POLL DEATH!
TheDustpile 1 year ago
Samantha is wonderful! The last time I spoke to her she promised David would help us business people make more profit by abolishing the Minimum Wage which all Conservatives were against when labour introduced it. Why should unskilled workers earn so much ? The Liberals want to reduce the amount of tax they pay. It's so unfair when Labour want me to pay 50% tax on my earnings!
SuperToryboy 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy unskilled workers often do hard,unpleasant,and on occasion dangerous jobs that you yourself would be unprepared to do.what do you do for a living ?
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 I have people working for me in the hotel business. I play golf and enjoy life like most Conservatives. If working class people want to vote for the Conservatives then let them, although I really don't know why they do?
SuperToryboy 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy I agree with you on the last pointwere your parents wealthy? or did you spring up from povertymy guess the former.hence your inability to empathise with lose less fortunate
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 those less fortunate.typo
Garvain66 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy sounds like you work hard.money to money.sounds like the hard work is done by the plebs you employ
Garvain66 1 year ago
why do people take part.they should tell her to get lost she duznt give a hoot for them
xandy1959 1 year ago
The conservatives run this country for people like me. Why should we pay pension credits to people who have not prepared for their retirement? Also, heating allowances. If they can't afford it they should switch off and wear plenty of clothing. It's simple! Child allowance is a waste, parents only spend it on binge drinking so it's good that's going. The conservatives could resolve two problems at the same time. Stop binge drinking and anti social behaviour by stopping tax credits.
SuperToryboy 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy try saving for a Pension if you are earning £12,000 or less
Garvain66 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy heating allowance?with a bit of luck thousands of poor and needy(OAPsincluded)will die from hyperthermia.Just think of the reduced tax burden for wankers like you!
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 I speak for all Conservatives. "One should look after oneself!" Obviously you should vote Labour or Liberal who look after working and middle class people but not people like me, true blue Conservatives.
SuperToryboy 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy I wish everyone in the country could read your nonsense then the Tories would be hammered out of sight
Garvain66 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy working and middle class people make up the VAST MA|JORITY OF THE POPULATION you prick
Garvain66 1 year ago
@SuperToryboy all parents who recieve child allowance are alcoholics,much is made of the loony left but you are I suspect a right wing lunatic par excellence
Garvain66 1 year ago
David Laws Lib Schools spokes man - Wasn't he a MD for Barclays investments?
Libs voters should open their eyes.
max31198 1 year ago
I am just an spectator, and very interestingly the media and the election polls are always in favoured Cameron. Are these run by conservative representatives? just interested in british politics
anijijapan1975 1 year ago
@anijijapan1975 the mass media is extremely biassed,mainly because they are owned by self interested billionaires.they will probably do enough to hoodwink many of the British electorate,encourage apathy and encourage the worst kinds of bigotry with half information and lie.
Garvain66 1 year ago
its so embarrassing she is pretending to care!! Embarrassing!!
silverlightmove 1 year ago
Cool. I've been to Yorkshire but why does no one ever come to where I live ¬_¬ Oh yeah but I suppose them French people I saw on the train came, and those Americans.......
pinki3o8 1 year ago
Shes gone to a village in Leeds - why not a council estate?
kefflam 1 year ago
Show me a young Conservative and I`ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I`ll show you someone with no brains.
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 17
There but for the grace of god eh Sam?
muttpix 1 year ago
And we care about what she does why exactly?
MrBluecarrot1 1 year ago 2
Perhaps Samantha would care to inform us of her own background? We are all aware of those Old Etonians and Bullingdon chums: Cameron and Osborne, but what of her own family the Astors? Those very people who made vast amounts of money from slum-landlording. Perhaps she would like to tell us about her father, that Old Etonian and 8th baronet Sir Reginald Adrian Berkeley Sheffield?
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 3
@ssurreydocks Perhaps she would like to inform us of her stepfather, that Old Etonian Sir William Waldorf Astor, the 4th Viscount? Or perhaps she would like to spill the beans on her Grandfather Robert Charles berkeley Sheffield, that Old Etonian and self-satisfied pompous apologist of fascism?
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 7
@ssurreydocks Perhaps Samantha would like to inform us of her cousin, that Old Etonian Sir Ferdinand Mount, who was head of Thatcher`s policy unit? There can be no place, for a British parliament of today, to be a parliament of privilege.
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cigpapers 1 year ago
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jackdanielsfanclub 1 year ago
@jackdanielsfanclub I`ve just ordered twenty or so. However I shan`t be paying for them!
ssurreydocks 1 year ago
@jackdanielsfanclub that really is sad!
Garvain66 1 year ago
@jackdanielsfanclub I might buy that Tshirt and wipe my backside on it
Garvain66 1 year ago
HexDragon 1 year ago
@HexDragon thats right, a peoples party that steals your private pension, a peoples party that scraps the lowest tax band hitting the lowest paid hardest, a party that supports mass immigration which results in 1 in 4 jobs going to immigrants, a party that wants to introduce a tax on jobs, a party that has created the largest peacetime debt the UK has ever seen, A party for the people.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I'm voting Liberal Democrats or Green peace. I don't particurly think much of labour recently, but in comparrison to the Tory's they are a godsend, and despite what you think, when they came into power in 1997 they the country a lot of good.
HexDragon 1 year ago
@HexDragon yes Brown sold off the gold at approx $240 per ounce, a 20 year low...............it's currently over $1000 per ounce.
He also scrapped the dividend credit on pension schemes because when he took over the economy was booming, stock market working at around 15%.
His actions hit 18 million pension funds leaving a generation without pension provision.
It's the most serious damage any politican in history has inflicted on the working man/women of this country.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@HexDragon I have sympathy for some though not all Lib Dem and Green Policies myself but for this electio0n you need to consider if they have a realistic chance of getting in your constituency otherwise that will gift victory to the mTories and months down the line you will wonder what you have done
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 back in the 80s Weinstock bought a company I worked for and plundered millions from our Pension fund, my understanding is that this is not an isolated incident.trust me .asset strippers and bent Directors are a far greater problem
Garvain66 1 year ago
@HexDragon here ,here I've had enough of wasting my time with stupid Tories I am proud to be a socialist because I care for people less fortunate than myself rather than be a selfish Cu*t,I have well above average intelligence,I am an extremely talented artist(painter/sculptor)with strong work and academic related skills.I don't fit the profile of a loser,it is just my values set me above Camerons arseholes
Garvain66 1 year ago
So millions of people colud be eligible for discounted shares under Tory plans to privatise bailed-out banks. Osborne is keen to encourage first time shared ownership and give the taxpayer the opportunity to make a return on their forced investments. I suspect that it is not going to be the ordinary people of Britain who will have the means to invest heavily in the newly privatised banks. It`ll be those from a more powerful community and those who have come across their capital via plunder.
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 22
I mean the sort that results in companys not paying proper attention to guards etc on machinery
Garvain66 1 year ago
"Lovely lambs" you say? Sounds like dinner... Then onto Autism, what a smooth transition. Lol... What the hell does this have to do with British Politics, or even gardening..?
MasterTeeee 1 year ago
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why have you took my comment of when i said all MPs are bent abd should be lock up the fact you took this off will stop me voteing . if we cant have our say it just shows you dont givedam about us really
yorkshiretractors 1 year ago
why have you took my comment of when i said all MPs are bent abd should be lock up the fact you took this off will stop me voteing . if we cant have our say it just shows you dont givedam about us really
yorkshiretractors 1 year ago
@yorkshiretractors I don't agree all MPS are corrupt but it is an unfortunate fact there were MPs on both sides who were and more than probably are.some enter politics for firmly held beliefs and convictions others are less scrupulous if not actively criminalI can't tell you how to vote or indeed should I but given that people died fighting for the right to vote(suffragettes/war dead etc) you perhaps should have your say be that Tory,Lib Dem,Labour or one of the other parties
Garvain66 1 year ago
Samantha Cameron is gorgeous, well done Dave, she's a keeper!
crazym02 1 year ago
Whatever "facts" anyone claims, the reality is that Tories have done exactly what the BNP have done - repackaged themselves. They still want to wreck the country, they still hate gay people, and they still want to make things worse for people who have lost their jobs, especially if they have a family. VOTE LIB DEMS - lesser of 3 evils, so to speak
Superapplefrog 1 year ago 9
@Superapplefrog very observant the rise in the BNP are really just right wing torys who believe that David is now a "supersoft lefty" and Nick Griffin is now a littl e less extreme. Both of which are complete nonsense. The fact they are both trying to seem more moderateby a lean to the left shows us one thing.. that is were the majoirty of voters are far left of their real agendas. There are two parties in this nation worth voting for The lib dems and Labour,
ucokcouk 1 year ago
@ucokcouk Whilst I do agree that voting Labour is better than Tories, realistically they got no chance - they've had years to sort out the juctice system, they've sent people to be tortured in other countries (regardless of whether they're guilty of a crime or not), one of their own members (Walter Wolfgang if you wanna look up the story) was detained under the Terrorism Act and I.D. cards will help, etc etc etc
Superapplefrog 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog oh I agree with you on the Libetarian front absolutely which is why we need an oposition that would acutally work against those things instead of voting for them and then speaking out against them at election time like Cameron and his buddies do. The Tory's would have done all those things mate and I agree it is disgusting the fact is the City holds the power and tells the government what to do... but at least Labour will sneak a few things through on our behalf.
ucokcouk 1 year ago
@ucokcouk yeh but it's about time we gave Lib Dems a chance to sneak things through on our behalf. Labour have had what? 13 years?
Superapplefrog 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog I can see the logic to that argument in honesty. Both Brown and Clegg have very rational arguments that I can see the benefit of. I have an equal level of respect for both Liberal and Labour voters.
ucokcouk 1 year ago
@ucokcouk Jesus loves you
Superapplefrog 1 year ago
@ucokcouk
Honestly, i don't think i've ever read anything so crazy. Your rhetoric may work amongst drunken clubs, but such a poor understanding of political theory is evident in public forums.
LeftwingLibertarian 1 year ago
@LeftwingLibertarian The only thing evident here is that you have presented nothing but an unsubstantiated opinion. The opinions I have expressed are Left-wing libertarian and you call my crazy even though it's your name sake? Bit bizarre really isn't it? If you want to be taken seriously in a "public forum" present a tangible fact for debate don't degrade it to mud slinging not sure about "drunken clubs" but it might work in a Zoo.
ucokcouk 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog didn't Labour do that in 97 (Nu Labour) yet we are back to the same old labour governing outcome, bankrupt, high unemployment and record taxes and record benefit claimants..................
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 didn't they do what? Labour did actually do SOME good (increase sentence for rape, introduce more support for those struggling financially, introduce Sure Start centres, campaign for more teachers in schools especially in priority subjects, etc.) - but they've done a lot of bad and Tories were worse. NEVER have Lib Dems even been given a chance - but now they have a chance; let's help them win. And benefits help those who would otherwise starve
Superapplefrog 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog yeh, what about the man with skitzophrenia from Irag who murdered 2 doctors, the government could not send him back to Iraq because he posed a threat to his fellow countrymen.
Many more cases where murderers, child rapists, all immigrants have been given leave to stay because of their human rights, Labour endorsed human rights.
The Lib Dems will be worse than Labour, they will hand over power to the EU.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 what about the many English rapists, murderers, child molestors, who have got crap sentences CUS OF JUDGES, NOT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT. Perhaps you should look up the act - it EXPLICITLY allows judges to overrule parts of the act for the purposes of security and crime prevention. We have held human rights dear for centuries. You don't want human rights? Then stop insulting the memory people who died for them in this country and go elsewhere
Superapplefrog 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog if so, that makes even more a mockery of the governments attempts to deport immigrant criminals.
The human rights act has made judges helpless in the fight against crime.
Remember, before Labour in 97 we never had a human rights act, it was never needed.
You insult all the troops who died in 2 world wars to give us freedom without human rights laws, now these laws protect criminals and victimise the victims.
You obviously support this.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 why is it that Tories always claim the credit for winning the first and second world war?...the Liberals took us into the first and a Coalition government WON the second
Winston Churchill was hammered at the election in 1945 and Labour should have won in 1951 because they got more votes...you should ask the question why..
my great grandfather fought at the Somme and Ypres and he voted Labour and others Tory/Labour and communist fought against Hitler
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 the Tories already did that ...it was Ted Heath (Conservative) who took us in ....the Tories want to subsidise farmers even if they produce food we don't need but they are against workers rights and don't want health and safety at work
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 you mean health & safety that does not permit an ordinary member of staff to change a lightbulb, or the health and safety that ensures risk assessment when using a crane to move heavy loads in a yard....................big difference between the two.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@Garvain66 It's these very health & safety companies that have influenced have piled on massive expenses for businesses with ridiculous legislation.
The Tories never took us into a Federal Europe, even Thatcher warned about giving up our currency which will be a realistic possibility with the Liberals.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I appreciate the claims direct nonsense but nevertheless when workers are decapitated or crushed at work through criminal negligence somebody should pay especially if it is through negligence
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 no the Tories took us into Europe even though it was at the time against the National interest more expensive food ,unjustifiable subsidies for farming-compare and contrast with the economic arguments for closing the pits and manufacturing
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 since 1997 British laws have been handed over to Europe, approx 80% of all laws & 50% of major laws have been given to Brussels by Labour.
As for subsidies, the French & Germans carve up the majority of Farming subsidies.
Closing the pits....................yes it was needed, as for manufacturing, well Britain has never had a nationalised manufacturing facility, all private, including Rover after it was subsidised.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704a) the main reason the Tories squeal about EU laws is because many are designed to protect ordinary people from exploitation and abuse by employersb)subsidies.utter bollocks the NFU is the most militant and powerful UNION in this countryc)the pits would have been economic if they had been subsidised like the coal of our competitors and if they had not been forced By the Tories to sell for a price below its worth by the power stations etc
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I worked for Plessey whose main customer in the 70s was the Post Office(then nationalised)at the time this country was world leaders in telecommunications but after the taxpayer substantial investment the Tories privatised BT for less than it was worth,shortchanging the taxpayer.
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 This undermined Plesseys market.Plessey was in turn bought out by Weinstock of GEC(an asset stripper who plundered the workers pension funds)when I started 4,000 worked on the shop floor in 85 in 91, 250 were left I suggest you do a little more homework because you don't know what you are talking about.go back to school
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 In July 1997, the new Labour Government relinquished its Special Share ("Golden Share"), retained at the time of the flotation, which had effectively given it the power to block a takeover of the company, and to appoint two non-executive directors to the Board.
Plessey just like a lot of other companies milked the government contracts just like BAE do now, it needed stopping and Thatcher stopped it.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@Garvain66 The trouble with companies like yours and people like you, is that you expect the state teat to keep feeding you work. get real, I was a miner and it was disgraceful the way money was wasted in the pits, taxpayers money, this happened and still does in the Nuclear & Defence sector and it needs stopping.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I've been talking to my uncle a miner and I think you are a liar
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 really.................well to be honest i don't really care what YOU think, but lets just say this, my Grandads were miners, my dad was a miner, 2 our of my 3 uncles were miners, my father in law was a miner, and all worked in the largest coalfield in the midlands, apporx 30 pits at one time.
Now you run off like a good boy and get those Labour leaflets delivered to your socialist cronies doors.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I find it hard to believe you worked down the pits unless it was as a pit pony with your level of reasoning you were obviously oblivious to the fact that under nationalisation we had the most efficient and productive deep mine pits in the world.explain to me you dipshit why the pits were nationalised during the war.ANSWER because we needed increased production for our war production END OFSTORY!Enemy within ....F**k OFF
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 given your background fictitious(I suspect) or otherwise I find it hard to understand why you should be in bed with the bastards who closed so many pits the Miners beat the Tories in the 70s so the Tories closed the pits which was against the national interest.this country has a dangerous over reliance on overseas energy and in the not too distant we will have a shortage of energy unless radical action is taken
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 i worked on supplies, tell your uncle, he'll know what i mean.
Scargill was offered a deal brokered by Neal Kinnock, which Thatcher agreed to have each pit independantly assessed to determine if it could be made profitable, if not it closed.
Scargill turned the offer down without even putting the offer to us, the membership.
Scargill was a traitor in my eyes, I agree, we need to sort our own reliance on power and food, we are too reliant on other for countless resource.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I am with you in that Scargill was a bad leader and that there SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NATIONAL BALLOT but if there had been a MAJORITY.ALL the Notts Miners should have gone on strike.I do believe the strike was deliberately provoked and the stockpiles of coal,employment of Macgregor etc proved that the situation had been engineered.
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 contrary to the obnoxious assertion that the Miners were the enemy within,the miners at their best were tough and of stoic character,and many lay down their lives for this country and it was qualities like these that put the great in GREAT BRITAIN,the Tories and management at their worst sacrifice quality and long term interest in favour of a short term killing A something for nothing society
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 It was industry that made this country great; and in particular it was the abundance of coal that fuelled the industrial revolution. That great leader Churchill was famous for great quotations: Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few". "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat". Let us not forget that it was a Tory who set the troops on the Miners and the railwaymen in 1926.
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 11
@ssurreydocks You cant have the workers running the business. All successful groups need a leader, and they look at the bigger picture.
max31198 1 year ago
@max31198 if you research Ernest Bevin's role during the war you will understand why I say he was THE GREATEST HOME SECRETARY THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD
Garvain66 1 year ago
@max31198 I correct myself he was Minister of Labour
Garvain66 1 year ago
@max31198 The fact is British workers outperformed their German counterparts during the war and what is more Albert Speer who wasMinister of Armaments and War Production for the Third Reich(his opposite number)
Garvain66 1 year ago
@max31198 the mistake reactionary managers make is that you tend not to motivate your workforce with fear,brutality and by paying woeful wages and least not in the long term.you earn contempt and disloyalty
Garvain66 1 year ago
@max31198 Ernest Bevin was illegitimate and born into great hardhip but at this countries hour of need he understood odinary working people and their motivations far more so than his colleague Winston Churchill and that was why he was able to understand the "bigger picture" and introduce works canteens and music at work to raise morale
Garvain66 1 year ago
@max31198 a happy workforce tends to be a more productive workforce and that is one of the many errors of so much British Management who think that bullying and saving on training and safety considerations is sound management
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 Chil Gar, i just said you need a leader, i didn't say they should whip the workers. Relax. However you don't see many statues of sucessful committees. Thats all I am saying
max31198 1 year ago
@Garvain66 I think Joe Gormley would`ve seconded that. Although I agree that the Notts miners should have come out, it must be bourne in mind that the NUM was infact a federation. I am proud to say that during the whole dispute, not one ounze of coal moved on the railway.
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 2
@ssurreydocks Joe Gormley, a man of reason and common sense.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@Garvain66 In Kinnocks words, "I knew the miners had lost once Scargill turned down Thatchers offer".
We would still have coalfields and manufacturing had it not been for the unions.
Just look how many car companies still invest in the workers of this country.
People such as Red Robbo, Scargill, Hatton and his mob are dispicable in my eyes, they betrayed the very people they were there to represent.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 the problem with unions is that they are composed of people.the same can be said of management.I've been told on good authority that management in the 70s theives at British Leyland were not confronted but they were afraid of upsetting the unions.This said at the same time although there were idiots in the movement there was much good done by unions
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 my father was a Vice Convenor and the Dept he was Shop Steward for where the best paid on site.but a good general can't bargain for something unless they offer something in return.His department delivered exceptional productivity and exceptional quality,they won the Queens award for British Industry and you don't get that for playing tiddlywinks
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 my unclie was a sparky and post strike was a manager,his second eldest brother a face worker,and third brother a sparky,their father was a faceworker and my grandfather on my mothers side was a sparky,then engineer,then management.he personally extended the life of Bestwood Colliery by 15 years he volunteered as a navigator with the RAF and his brother earnt a DFC as a pilot.
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 In Germany,Japan and France many companys have a greater emphasis on research and development and although profitable there is a smaller proportion put aside for profit.that is why British Leyland was often crap and everyone drives Audis,Mercs,Toyota,Fords Lexus and Nissans etc etc
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 good management is worth its weight in gold but although specific union leaders were irresponsible part of the British disease is attrocious management.duff puchasing,bad organisation etc etc we used to be the workshop of the world and now we make very,very little and our economy is on very,very insecure ground and this has more to do with the emphasis on acountancy etc and balancesheets rather than sound work practice
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 I never got to do my face training, approx 5 year waiting list.
I worked on supplies, on a button which was awful, plenty of shovel work, and dust surpression.
Littleton Colliery was the pit, approx 2,500 in jan 84, decimated after the strike, so many left.
The met were bastards during the strike, anytime any trouble they had battons drawn as soon as they left the riot vans.
Our local police were great though.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 my uncle had similar experience with the police at Orgreave.for many years although law abiding I had a deep suspision of the Police because they at times seemed under concerned with protecting working class neighbourhoods from the criminal elements and yet had every power to restrict democratic freedoms during the miners strike and other points of contention
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 the irony is that I am now friends with a former C.I. and my brother works for the police.I think most reasonable people of all views support their police but I do think at times they have been misused and I feel an enormous amount of damage was done to the reputation of the police during this period.they should be for all of us not a select few
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I am sorry that you became so disillusioned with the Labour Movement during this period .I agree with you that Scargill was a vainglorious tosser
as you know the miners before the strike were a close knit community and I feel they and the country were sold short by poor leadership both of the Union(Scargill) and the country(Thatcher)
Garvain66 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 I suspect we have very similar backgrounds and values, although we may draw slightly different conclusions from time to time
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 Credit to Tebbit & Thatcher, they have openly admitted on record they were wrong about the speed of closures and that it should have been done over say a 10 year period, Scargill on the other hand said he has no regrets, don't need to say much more do we.
I'll never forgive the Labour party for allowing Brown to destroy 18 million pension provisions of ordinary hardworking Briits.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@Garvain66 As for the past which you mention, people are different now, they have aspirations of doing better. Thankfully the days have ended where a political party could stick a monkey up for election so long a it had the right colour rosette on people would vote for it.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 there is nothing wrong with aspirations and progression based on merit my problem is with unscrupulous directors and bank mangerss etc that award themselves obscene pay despite woeful performance(declining market share,poor management etc).If you are wealthy or earning large amounts I can understand the resentment even if it is for selfish reasons but if you are a working class Tory on low wages with poor or dangerous conditions that is just plain stupidity
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Garvain66 It has come as no suprise that the directors of Barclays (seven of whom were educated at Eton together) have decided to pay out around £1.5 Billion in cash bonuses. However these elitists are still refusing to grant much needed loans to businesses. As the battle lines are drawn, cameron, Osborne and chums will tell public sector workers that they`re lucky to still be in employment. "After all businesses are going to the wall and people are lossing their jobs".
ssurreydocks 1 year ago 13
@ssurreydocks excellent post
Garvain66 1 year ago
@Superapplefrog
hehe, i agree, but, i'd rather these than Labour
LeftwingLibertarian 1 year ago
@LeftwingLibertarian you really are a walking contradiction aren't you? I bet you can argue with yourself.
ucokcouk 1 year ago
Great comment Markyboy :-)
fleuriebottle 1 year ago
@markyboy1704 Ah. Now I understand.
JonHarvey58 1 year ago
I'm voting for the Iclandic Volcano party, it's done more to stop immigration in the last 5 days than Labour has done in the last 13 years.
markyboy1704 1 year ago
Indeed in upwards of 400 out of 650 seats - the result is pretty well already known. Several constituencies have not changed hands for over a 100 years.This is not democracy, This is not fair voting. Life is about negotiating, compromising and then agreeing - why should Government not be about that too?
JonHarvey58 1 year ago
So coalition govts are bad - who says. Certainly not the many European countries who have had them for decades. Why is 'strong' government so good - especially if it does not represent the will of the people? What we need is a system of voting that means we end up with a government that is broadly proportional to the votes cast. Our a system (so called 'First Past the Post') which means that most MPs have the majority of people voting against them.
JonHarvey58 1 year ago
I was going to vote, but i'm tired of all politicians and i honestly can't pick anybody i WANT to vote for, Labour, Lib Dems, Tories. They act like a bunch of children, seemingly all they can do is mud sling and name call, they act like idiotic kids who have something wrong with them in the house of commons, and all of these people are smarmy, two-faced liars. It would be two-faced of me if i WERE to vote, so i shall abstain. They're all as bad as one another.
DethByHysteria 1 year ago
This is great!
By great of course it is terrible
carrotdude2008 1 year ago
The charity looks like it is doing some excellent work. It is good that Samantha Cameron has highlighted their work. I am a little concerned that she is not wearing her seat belt when the car is moving along.
JonHarvey58 1 year ago
to run a country. u have u to think of the people not money.. u have to care bout people and have compassion and love for everything... do these people have that?
chrisbartley88 1 year ago
OMG such propaganda.. This video has been smeared over every corner of youtube (showing who google have an obligation to). It was written a long while back that David would be the next priminister but things havn't gone as smooth as they thought.
PHASMA1337 1 year ago
Down with brown, Conservs FTW!
oGIZMO95o 1 year ago
The Tories are the WORST of a bad lot. I thought a hung Parliament sounded like an excellent idea until someone explained what it actually meant.
atlanticsimon 1 year ago
@atlanticsimon How do you come to that conclusion............the worst?
markyboy1704 1 year ago
@atlanticsimon i fail to see how a hung parliament would be bad. Of course David Cameron and the rest of his fools think its awful to persuade people to vote for them.
joprix27 1 year ago
@joprix27 your failure to see what a hung parliament can do to the country in terms of damage clearly shows your intellect.
The city for a start will run for cover leaving the pound to free fall as confidence hits a low.
A weaker currency can create inflation problems, which would result in higher interest rates slowing down recovery..........................thats just for starters..................any more you want to know brainless?
markyboy1704 1 year ago
SAME OLD LIES
CLASS WAR
Libertinelynch 1 year ago
so, what was this in aid of?
slapehdiebass 1 year ago
1. I think it is slightly unfair that Boris Johnson who is clearly bias towards the Conservatives (for obvious reasons) to be able to try and attack other partys in such a mainstream form of media such as the Daily Telegraph on which he has an entire article to himself.
2. I think it is unfair that many people will not be able to watch the debate this week and we should not have to pay for Sky to see it.
JHarlow3000 1 year ago
well i give them credit for now disabling comments, but maybe that haven't worked out how? :P
DrPracticleHat 1 year ago
@DrPracticleHat not*
DrPracticleHat 1 year ago
"there making lovely walking sticks" yea so and how does that relate to the consevative policiys? all it shows is that she can be driven around
TheBlackMetalGoblin 1 year ago
hell make us pay for recycling and our bins!!
radiacto 1 year ago
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boogaloo80 1 year ago