20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is DRUNK. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.--1 Corinthians 11:20-22 (emphasis added)
Look at the original church the first church of Christ and the first letter of Corinthians and you see how horribly off this is. I pray God have mercy
Wow, this is not anything like the liturgical sacrament of worship described in the early second century writing of Justin Martyr, or even that of Ignatius of Antioch a disciple of the apostles. This is evil.
Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.
Do not grieve, for the joy of the LORD is your strength.
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
AND
There are 826 "glad texts" in the Bible - According to Pollyanna :)
Maniacal laughter is not edifying. The Bible calls us to be sober and alert in these last days, not seeking a drunken stupor. This sounds like the laughter of madmen. God gave me the gift of sanity and a sound mind when I left these cults so many years ago. I am reminded WHY I left.
@shamethewise so you base your theological stance off of something other than the bible? Where in the early church do you have this meeting? There is no worship here none of God's glory
Day of Pentecost maybe... Half the people said they were drunk!
Oh, and every Christian follows the Bible, but it's your interpretation that defines you. I bet you could write a book on your interpretation and I bet you've been influenced by people and books who put their two-cense in. Even cults followed the "Bible" but it was it's their interpretation that keeps the people in bondage.
@shamethewise I don't read other books never have so no. And every christian does not follow the bible that is a very incorrect statement because if that was the case u wouldnt be defending these teachings. The bible is clear when it speaks, if you live off of the interpretations of others than you will surely be deceived I attend a church and everything my pastor shares with us I study and examine in the bible and through prayer if it doesn't measure up to the bible than its false
@shamethewise Your completely missing it. It doesn't matter what my pastor brings...anything he bring I bring before the father in prayer because he is a man and even though he's a praying man he can make mistakes. But, God makes no mistakes and the bible is clear when it says there is an order to our gatherings because God is a God of order not of disorder
@TheCheche7 God is the God of order, but have you every thought about what order looks like? It looks like lightning and thunder, like the perfect movements of millions of synchronized cells to somehow form a body, like a thousand birds dancing in the sky without stepping in it's partners. It looks like a baby being birthed screaming as it enters a whole new world. Order can be messy, it can be beautiful, it can fun, and it can mysterious.
@TheCheche7 God is the God of order, but have you every thought about what order looks like? It looks like lightning and thunder, like the perfect movements of millions of synchronized cells to somehow form a body, like a thousand birds dancing in the sky without stepping in it's partners. It looks like a baby being birthed screaming as it enters a whole new world. Order can be messy, it can be beautiful, it can fun, and it can mysterious.
@shamethewise Is that what Scripture says? 1 Corinthians 14:40 says "But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way." What is everything? The usage of gifts, the manner in which the service is conducted, etc... No where does it say that we should reinterpret the word "order" to mean something other then its plain, natural meaning.
@shamethewise Its not about interpretation its about what God says if you lean on your understanding your own "interpretation" you will fall short because the bible is truth and only God can reveal what's in there
@shamethewise and on the day of pentecost the people who were saying the were drunk were not the people who were filled with the holy spirit it was the people in the crowd who did not believe so thats invalid too. Here you have a group of people claiming drunkenness and calling it the holy spirit. This is completely far off from the scriptures and your own John Crowder goes against his teachings.
And the Bible points to God, but the Bible is not God, it's a book. :) The correct interpretation gives great info about this God, but the encounter is actually tangible.
I don't snuggle up in bed with a book about my wife do I, lol.
@shamethewise John 1:1, and that is a horrible comparison. Your wife is not God you can't compare the Lord to anyone or anything. And, the bible is not just a book its more than that Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes--the Jew first and also the Gentile. Its more than just a book written by random people
Laughter is edifying, there is no question about it. Those who assume all this is contrived and demonic should examine their own filters. The only blasphemy here is false assumption and ignorance whereby people attribute demonic attributes to the Holy Spirit.
@denoinwa Actually, yes, there IS a question as to whether hysterical, out-of-control cackling is edifying. If there wasn't, all this criticism wouldn't exist, now would it? I would have thought that was self-evident. But I do agree, I'm sure some laughter in this video is caused by simple social pressures to fit in with the group.
@aarilaxox Um, the evident question is whether this kind of thing should be allowed on behalf of the entire group. When a group decides to set aside a time where free expression of this kind is fully accepted, they have decided that this behavior is both orderly and decent. It doesnt much matter if a more conservative person thinks it so or not. It is entirely plausible that Paul's beef had to do with people not respecting those trying to speak, not some mandate for a rigid environment.
@denoinwa I guess if you are a theological relativist, that argument might work... Unfortunately your logic of an individual group being some absolute authority for what is acceptable can and HAS been used to justify all sorts of abominations. Thankfully, we have the Church to protect us from errors such as what is shown.
@aarilaxox No, I just recognize certain pet passages that are routinely abused by religious control freaks to suite their agenda. Too often, joyless religiophobes mistake "order" for their personal inability to enjoy God or move with the Holy Spirit. You can go hang with the rigid if you like. Knock yourself out.
How does this edify the church body or the individual at all? This would not be in line with teachings in the new testament. I believe in the gifts of the Spirit and in personal prayer language/tongues but this I see as blasphemous and damaging to the Body of Christ for the furthering of the Gospel.
The reaction most traditional Christians have to this video is quite similar to the reaction many of them have toward tongues. It is so far off their grid they have no place for it, and of course there is no scripture being violated here, so what do you have? Frustrated traditionalists screaming, "demon" and "apostate." THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ADVANCING!!!
Too bad many "genuine believers" don't believe. Their "faith" reaches as far as the five tenants of Calvinism and a reformed, traditional mindset of how a "church" should operate. Any teacher who welcomes the supernatural is summarily demonized as a heretic. Yes, the gap is widening. THANK GOD THAT EMPTY RELIGION IS BEING EXPOSED.
Genuine Believers are shocked, sickened, angered and grieved at this blasphemy and display of profanity. Can you see the gap widening between Truth and error? The apostasy has begun.
PEOPLE EVERYWHERE LISTEN TO ME, WE NEED TO STAND AGAINST THIS BLASPHEMY! MANY PEOPE ARE BEING DECIEVED AND INFECTED WITH THIS EVIL SPIRIT! HERE IS A LIST OF SPEAKERS YOU CAN TRUST PAUL WASHER DAVID WILKERSON CHARLES STANLEY MARK DRISCOL HERES SOME YOU CANT JOEL OSTEEN BENJAMIN DUN JOHN CROWDER BILL JOHNSON KENNETH COPELAND TODD BENTLEY RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE JOSHUA MILLS
IM a minister; I believe in the power and the beauty of the Holy Spirit,,,, B U T, !! This is Demonic at best... There is NOTHING Christian about this shameful display of childish and sinful behavior.
You quoted Eph 5:18. This passage has nothing to do with being drunk in the Spirit. Paul says "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit". I don't think this verse is correlating the effects of alcohol with the Holy Spirit. It's a contrast of opposites. Drunkenness removes self-control. The Holy Spirit produces the fruit of self-control. What an insult to a Holy God, to attribute a drunken stupor to His Holy Spirit!
As a Christian I feel that this shocking display makes a mockery of the communion service. These people should repent. No wonder people think us Christians are loonies.
Reminded me of a bunch of guys I knew in college passing the reefer! What a JOKE!!! What BLASPHEMY!!! God will not allow such to happen without dealing with it... ask the folks at Corinth!!!
@ChristiansofAsia So so true, we should be afraid and sad for these people. Also i'm assuming from your name your in Asia and let me say this. THIS VID and that ACT is a SHAME a sad sad SHAME you are not only mocking Christ and the Word of God but also these REAL Christians in Asia where most of them have to risk their lives just to WORSHIP correctly the real way. This pathetic stuff is a crying shame. Please pray for these people.
vergognatevi tutti, pazzi malati mentali, voi disonorate Dio e infamate e infangate il momento del ricordo della Cena di Cristo! Figli di satana brucerete negli inferi.
Yeah. . . This is in the Bible. To what end is this profitable in the spiritual growth of a Christian? Y'all sound like a bunch of fools. Ya need to sit under a shepherd that doesn't peel a scripture from hither and yon to make this weird shit seem right.
Holy Communion laced with acid. An improvement on normal Church. You get to see God, but the problem is his head has detached from the fireplace and the TV has been sick everywhere
Pretty sure this isn't what Jesus had in mind.....
kdog1203 2 weeks ago
REPROBATES!
I Cor. 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
HELL BOUND REPROBATES!
jehovahuponyou 2 weeks ago
20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is DRUNK. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.--1 Corinthians 11:20-22 (emphasis added)
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
i love this vid!so muck whack on it!
HighTalkPub 3 weeks ago
Um what is going on lol can somebody explain all these weirdos and laughing. What are people acting like this. I'm so confused lol
MrMrahill 3 weeks ago
Is this in psych ward?
neringaweb 4 weeks ago 2
Oh yea this is exactly how it went down in the early church and the reformation. Foolishness (1 Cor 8, 9 & 10)
fireonthaalta 1 month ago 2
Look at the original church the first church of Christ and the first letter of Corinthians and you see how horribly off this is. I pray God have mercy
TheCheche7 1 month ago 2
Wow, this is not anything like the liturgical sacrament of worship described in the early second century writing of Justin Martyr, or even that of Ignatius of Antioch a disciple of the apostles. This is evil.
emekonen 1 month ago
Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.
Do not grieve, for the joy of the LORD is your strength.
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
AND
There are 826 "glad texts" in the Bible - According to Pollyanna :)
shamethewise 1 month ago
Maniacal laughter is not edifying. The Bible calls us to be sober and alert in these last days, not seeking a drunken stupor. This sounds like the laughter of madmen. God gave me the gift of sanity and a sound mind when I left these cults so many years ago. I am reminded WHY I left.
RansomBackus7 1 month ago
@RansomBackus7
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh... Psalms 2:4
Where do you sitteth?
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise REALLY? one line of poetry to justify drunken and disorderly behavior? come on...at least get a cohesive theological stance going!
RansomBackus7 1 month ago
@RansomBackus7 Read Happy Gospel by Benjamin Dunn to see some of my Theo
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise so you base your theological stance off of something other than the bible? Where in the early church do you have this meeting? There is no worship here none of God's glory
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7
Day of Pentecost maybe... Half the people said they were drunk!
Oh, and every Christian follows the Bible, but it's your interpretation that defines you. I bet you could write a book on your interpretation and I bet you've been influenced by people and books who put their two-cense in. Even cults followed the "Bible" but it was it's their interpretation that keeps the people in bondage.
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise I don't read other books never have so no. And every christian does not follow the bible that is a very incorrect statement because if that was the case u wouldnt be defending these teachings. The bible is clear when it speaks, if you live off of the interpretations of others than you will surely be deceived I attend a church and everything my pastor shares with us I study and examine in the bible and through prayer if it doesn't measure up to the bible than its false
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7 How do you know your pastor has the right interpretation? I bet he read some books other then the Bible in seminary :)
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise Your completely missing it. It doesn't matter what my pastor brings...anything he bring I bring before the father in prayer because he is a man and even though he's a praying man he can make mistakes. But, God makes no mistakes and the bible is clear when it says there is an order to our gatherings because God is a God of order not of disorder
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7 God is the God of order, but have you every thought about what order looks like? It looks like lightning and thunder, like the perfect movements of millions of synchronized cells to somehow form a body, like a thousand birds dancing in the sky without stepping in it's partners. It looks like a baby being birthed screaming as it enters a whole new world. Order can be messy, it can be beautiful, it can fun, and it can mysterious.
shamethewise 1 month ago
@TheCheche7 God is the God of order, but have you every thought about what order looks like? It looks like lightning and thunder, like the perfect movements of millions of synchronized cells to somehow form a body, like a thousand birds dancing in the sky without stepping in it's partners. It looks like a baby being birthed screaming as it enters a whole new world. Order can be messy, it can be beautiful, it can fun, and it can mysterious.
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise Order in a church gathering looks like 1Corinthians chapter 14
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@shamethewise Your talking about creation something God did how can you compare that to this?
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@shamethewise Is that what Scripture says? 1 Corinthians 14:40 says "But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way." What is everything? The usage of gifts, the manner in which the service is conducted, etc... No where does it say that we should reinterpret the word "order" to mean something other then its plain, natural meaning.
Progamble 6 days ago
@shamethewise Its not about interpretation its about what God says if you lean on your understanding your own "interpretation" you will fall short because the bible is truth and only God can reveal what's in there
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@shamethewise I don't depend on my pastor. That always leads to failure
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@shamethewise and on the day of pentecost the people who were saying the were drunk were not the people who were filled with the holy spirit it was the people in the crowd who did not believe so thats invalid too. Here you have a group of people claiming drunkenness and calling it the holy spirit. This is completely far off from the scriptures and your own John Crowder goes against his teachings.
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine. Song of Solomon 1:2
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise How does this scriptures encourage or support this type of behavior?
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7
And the Bible points to God, but the Bible is not God, it's a book. :) The correct interpretation gives great info about this God, but the encounter is actually tangible.
I don't snuggle up in bed with a book about my wife do I, lol.
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise John 1:1, and that is a horrible comparison. Your wife is not God you can't compare the Lord to anyone or anything. And, the bible is not just a book its more than that Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes--the Jew first and also the Gentile. Its more than just a book written by random people
TheCheche7 1 month ago
@TheCheche7 The Lord compares us to his wife, his brother, his friends, why can't I reciprocate the feeling?
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise How do u reciprocate that by behaving like someone who is drunk? By laughing how do the two compare?
TheCheche7 1 month ago
45 people don't like happy communion...
7Everett 2 months ago
Laughter is edifying, there is no question about it. Those who assume all this is contrived and demonic should examine their own filters. The only blasphemy here is false assumption and ignorance whereby people attribute demonic attributes to the Holy Spirit.
denoinwa 2 months ago
@denoinwa Actually, yes, there IS a question as to whether hysterical, out-of-control cackling is edifying. If there wasn't, all this criticism wouldn't exist, now would it? I would have thought that was self-evident. But I do agree, I'm sure some laughter in this video is caused by simple social pressures to fit in with the group.
aarilaxox 1 month ago
@aarilaxox Um, the evident question is whether this kind of thing should be allowed on behalf of the entire group. When a group decides to set aside a time where free expression of this kind is fully accepted, they have decided that this behavior is both orderly and decent. It doesnt much matter if a more conservative person thinks it so or not. It is entirely plausible that Paul's beef had to do with people not respecting those trying to speak, not some mandate for a rigid environment.
denoinwa 1 month ago
@denoinwa I guess if you are a theological relativist, that argument might work... Unfortunately your logic of an individual group being some absolute authority for what is acceptable can and HAS been used to justify all sorts of abominations. Thankfully, we have the Church to protect us from errors such as what is shown.
aarilaxox 1 month ago
@aarilaxox No, I just recognize certain pet passages that are routinely abused by religious control freaks to suite their agenda. Too often, joyless religiophobes mistake "order" for their personal inability to enjoy God or move with the Holy Spirit. You can go hang with the rigid if you like. Knock yourself out.
denoinwa 1 month ago
How does this edify the church body or the individual at all? This would not be in line with teachings in the new testament. I believe in the gifts of the Spirit and in personal prayer language/tongues but this I see as blasphemous and damaging to the Body of Christ for the furthering of the Gospel.
kornsizzle 2 months ago
The reaction most traditional Christians have to this video is quite similar to the reaction many of them have toward tongues. It is so far off their grid they have no place for it, and of course there is no scripture being violated here, so what do you have? Frustrated traditionalists screaming, "demon" and "apostate." THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ADVANCING!!!
denoinwa 2 months ago
Too bad many "genuine believers" don't believe. Their "faith" reaches as far as the five tenants of Calvinism and a reformed, traditional mindset of how a "church" should operate. Any teacher who welcomes the supernatural is summarily demonized as a heretic. Yes, the gap is widening. THANK GOD THAT EMPTY RELIGION IS BEING EXPOSED.
denoinwa 2 months ago
Genuine Believers are shocked, sickened, angered and grieved at this blasphemy and display of profanity. Can you see the gap widening between Truth and error? The apostasy has begun.
lrwilliamsjr 3 months ago
jd6017 3 months ago
@jd6017 Big letters give more authority! LOL Repent
HighTalkPub 3 weeks ago
IM a minister; I believe in the power and the beauty of the Holy Spirit,,,, B U T, !! This is Demonic at best... There is NOTHING Christian about this shameful display of childish and sinful behavior.
jfitguru 3 months ago
I dont know what the HELL is going on here, but this is NOT , I REPEAT NOT, Christianity !! ITs a freak Show !!
jfitguru 3 months ago
Is laughter a sin? lol
shamethewise 5 months ago
@shamethewise
No laughter is not a sin, but mockery is, and these people are mocking
jd6017 3 months ago
If they love drugs so much, why don't they just do them? Honestly I don't get it.
FillTheirVoid 5 months ago
His body feels so hot inside me.
bhickman6 6 months ago
HOW DARE YOU!
ddfrisky 6 months ago
You quoted Eph 5:18. This passage has nothing to do with being drunk in the Spirit. Paul says "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit". I don't think this verse is correlating the effects of alcohol with the Holy Spirit. It's a contrast of opposites. Drunkenness removes self-control. The Holy Spirit produces the fruit of self-control. What an insult to a Holy God, to attribute a drunken stupor to His Holy Spirit!
angieb139 6 months ago
John Crowder is an idiot.
voiceofelijah2012 7 months ago
As a Christian I feel that this shocking display makes a mockery of the communion service. These people should repent. No wonder people think us Christians are loonies.
Shazoolo 7 months ago
Where here is the body and blood of Jesus honored and glorified? It seriously sounds like Satan and his demons were delighting in this blasphemy.
LIBERTYinPERIL 7 months ago
wtf is this apostasy
puntme 7 months ago
Reminded me of a bunch of guys I knew in college passing the reefer! What a JOKE!!! What BLASPHEMY!!! God will not allow such to happen without dealing with it... ask the folks at Corinth!!!
twhditto 7 months ago
Total nonsense. I'm a Christian and I think this stuff is completely bogus.
a0adio0 7 months ago 4
Man, where is Jim Jones when we need him!
hippoaugustine 8 months ago 2
So, demons are real. Thank you for reminding me.
aarilaxox 8 months ago 17
@aarilaxox
Demons are sad, depressed, and angry beings.
Angels on the other hand or full of fun :)
shamethewise 1 month ago
@shamethewise Angels are "full of fun"? Have you ever read the Bible?
aarilaxox 1 month ago
Blasphemous!
ChristiansofAsia 8 months ago 11
@ChristiansofAsia So so true, we should be afraid and sad for these people. Also i'm assuming from your name your in Asia and let me say this. THIS VID and that ACT is a SHAME a sad sad SHAME you are not only mocking Christ and the Word of God but also these REAL Christians in Asia where most of them have to risk their lives just to WORSHIP correctly the real way. This pathetic stuff is a crying shame. Please pray for these people.
FromBible2Life 7 months ago
@FromBible2Life Thank for your wise comments...Let us pray for these people.
ChristiansofAsia 7 months ago
@ChristiansofAsia u ARE when u are saying that a move and the freedom of god is demonic! Repent!
HighTalkPub 5 months ago
scary... if they only knew the demonic forces they were entertaining here....
ironclad452 8 months ago 5
...what...?
hugs4harry 8 months ago
vergognatevi tutti, pazzi malati mentali, voi disonorate Dio e infamate e infangate il momento del ricordo della Cena di Cristo! Figli di satana brucerete negli inferi.
saikepaura 8 months ago
This seriously creeps the shit out of me. This is the stuff that they make horror films out of.
longblackjimmy 8 months ago
Yeah. . . This is in the Bible. To what end is this profitable in the spiritual growth of a Christian? Y'all sound like a bunch of fools. Ya need to sit under a shepherd that doesn't peel a scripture from hither and yon to make this weird shit seem right.
FRUNTCASTER 8 months ago
I think there is a stray kookaburra in the building. Certainly a lot of loons and one big booby.
AuntieDiluvian 8 months ago 4
This is orrible... This is christianity?
MrNAPOLI67 8 months ago
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@MrNAPOLI67 No, this certainly is NOT Christianity
ironclad452 8 months ago
No natural drugs.
Gen 49:12
His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
Song of Solomon 5:1
I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved.
Ephesians 5:18
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Holy Spirit
shamethewise 8 months ago
@shamethewise SATANS HERE
douglasdolly 6 months ago
1:23 Monks know how to party.
MeltingWindow 8 months ago
This is why I did drugs, because I don't get a natural high out of believing this jesus stuff. Mine high was probably easier on the wallet though.
oneguycoding 8 months ago 3
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Holy Communion laced with acid. An improvement on normal Church. You get to see God, but the problem is his head has detached from the fireplace and the TV has been sick everywhere
tshhtf 8 months ago
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tshhtf 8 months ago
Wicked shroom party!
butterbelly 8 months ago
they are on hyper drugs =) rofl
jennisuomi 8 months ago
SOMEBODY GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE!!!
Hirnlego999 8 months ago
@Hirnlego999 Gladly! Hold the ALT button and press F4.
mikeysaur65 3 months ago
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@mikeysaur65 THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS. Repent SINNNAAAAHHH!
Hirnlego999 3 months ago
they are sooo dropping acid
nyomythus 8 months ago
these people are screwed in the head.
theretaks 8 months ago
Aka Mass Hysteria
MonsterEnergyMan 8 months ago