@khorovod No love lost, you communist fanatic. You'd better stick to the facts. Do you really think that I'm here to polemise with you? Your stance is quite transparent: "My way or highway" and teasing you by bringing about cold facts is the only way to further expose your fanaticism. Unfortunately, you're kicking a horse that is long dead, if not dead in the water.
@khorovod Looks like you need a translator to communicate with me while I, on the other hand, understand your Russian, can decipher your English and play wit words in both English and my native Polish. I've read more history in three languages than you'll ever do in your native Russian. The Internet gives you a venue to spew your ignorant ideas and it's very good for those who still exercise some common sense and stick to facts.
@optionrider12 Me no need translator. I don't give a crap how many tongues you speak, smart ass. You can present your "facts" here but any further hate speech towards Russians will lead to your ban. That's all.
@khorovod You must be thinking about yourself and the likes who litter this channel let alone the very video at the top where quantity (over three and a half hours) doesn't bring a tiny bit of quality and is a primitive extension of the Soviet propaganda. I don't have a problem with Russia as long as it keeps away from other countries and nations. It doesn't belong in Central and Western Europe. BTW, it's Black Sea fleet is landlocked, for Turkey (a NATO member) controls the Bosphorus.
@khorovod How dare yo? The Soviets and the Nazis made modern history as the most outrageous liers and mass-murderers. Dzerzhinsky and Stalin are "credited" with annihilation of 60 million mostly Soviet citizens in labour camps, wars, starved and juducially or summarily killed in mass executions between 1918 and 1953. Communist and Nazi propaganda were second to none. I also read a Pravda editorial from 1938 praising Hitler and lauding commonalities between communism and national socialism.
@khorovod Is Muhin, BTW, a kind of communist Pope that everything he says is a dogma and condemned are those who don't believe his pontificated bullshit? Come to your senses and put your brains in gear before you hit the keyboard of your computer.
@optionrider12 Whatever you say but it doesn't change the fact that you can't do anything about it. Muhin has gathered significant evidence that Germans killed the Poles in Katyn. Now it's on you do prove otherwise. Poor you can't do that?!
@khorovod Your Rudenko could have done it in Nuremberg. Why didn't he do it and no Nazi war criminal was charged and sentenced for the Katyn massacre there? Your Muhin or Mukhin is a crook and a lier as most Russian communists and negates what was released by Yeltsin and Putin from NKVD and KGB archives. No point in arguing with an idiot, as others may not know the difference. Why the Soviets inflated the number of killed in Auschwitz to six million while no more than 1.3 million died there?
Looks like the Russians will be kicked out of Syria where they have military bases sooner rather than later. Obama doesn't bark like George W. Bush. HE BITES! Bin-Laden is dead, All Maghreb countries, Egypt, Iraq, most of Yemen and Lybia have been yanked out of the Russian influence zone. Once Syria is neutralised Lebanon will promptly return to its former position of "Switzerland of the Middle East". Just wait and see! If Romney beats Obama, he'll be even tougher on the Russians.
Poland, as England and any state ruled by its patriots doesn't have eternal friends or eternal enemies but always has eternal business contributing to the well-being of its citizens. Poland survives without Russia but Russia won't without trading with the rest of the world.
@optionrider12 Why do you think that Russia is trying so hard to re conquer Ukraine? Without Ukraine Russia remains isolated further from Europe and pushed back to Asia where it belongs!!
@101Restoration Exactly, and I believe that the Ukrainians won't extend Russian lease of the Sevastopol military base past 2013 which will render its Black Sea war fleet next to useless. Poland should lobby the EU and NATO to accept Ukraine ASAP, especially in light of future Polish production of enough shale gas to supply the rest of Europe, Ukraine included, for next 100 years. That would leave Russia with its gas possible to ship to Asian clients only. Russians reap what they've sown.
How Russia with the GDP size of California's and military spending of 8% of the US's can do anything else but barking (US military spending constitutes 43% of global expenditure on the military)? Just do the math! Also, the US Army keeps fighting all over the world at all times while the Russian army hasn't had any real military exposure since the Afghan intervention and the Chechnya's independence war, save the Ossetia occupation. The odds are not stack in Russia's favour and Putin knows it.
@tagaphon Hope Chinese communists will teach you a memorable lesson soon as "Yanks" don't give you a damn as long as you limit yourself to barking without biting. BTW, Muslims within the former Soviet Union give Russia a harder time than al-Queda the rest of Western world. I also forgot to mention that if shit hist the fan Chechnya will be at Russia's throat too. A teraz połóż się spać, tępy Kacapie.
I beg the real Poles pardon. If that is reading the Pole that understands English he'd understand that this guy is not worth to be called Pole. He is the cause why Poland is where it is.
Советская власть УНИЧТОЖИЛА до войны с Германией МИЛЛИОНЫ своих граждан! Без всякого Гитлера проводила план “Ост” в жизнь! Коммунистический кровавый РЕЖИМ должен быть осужден, как и нацистский! Народ должен узнать, при каких условиях стали возможны МАССОВЫЕ репрессии, убийства, голодомор, такие ОГРОМНЫЕ, ни с чем не сравнимые потери в Великой Отечественной войне - 27 млн. советских граждан! А в Беларуси повсюду памятники Ленину и Сталину и нынешний РЕЖИМ восхваляет этих УБИЙЦ!
@pravdorez077 You're right. Sovietskaya vlast was among the most barbaric and criminal regimes in modern history. Communism couldn't do anything constructive without destruction exceeding tens of times the benefits of its perverted policies and ideology. The former Soviet Union was an inhuman and inhumane land.
@optionrider12 Yeah, Hitler's Germany was the state of true humanism. And nowdays America took upon itself the burden of savior, destroying totalitarism, and bringing freedom all over the world. Sure.
@1975pagal Now, your compatriots in Latvia will have to learn Latvian, hire translators and/or interpreters, or go back to Russia and put up with the living standard lower by half than what they enjoy in the country the Soviets had occupied for 50 years. History and its justice is catching up with your "great" robber predecessors (LMAO).
@1975pagal No worse than the Stalinist Soviet Union, but had better technology (Soviet Migs and American jet fighters were built from blueprints of German jet fighters introduced in 1945 to fight WW2 on which the Allies laid their hands after the unconditional capitulation of Nazi Germany in 1945). Stalin and Hitler were totally worthy one another (LMAO).
"Only" about 4500 Polish POWs from the soviet POW camp in Kozyelsk were executed by the NKVD in the Katyn forest in the spring of 1940. POWs from POW camps in Starobyelsk and Ostashkov were shot elsewhere. The total number of those who were "liquidated" by the NKVD with "9 grams to the back of the head" is estimated at between 13,500 and 15,000.
@optionrider12 The total number of dead Pollacks found on Soviet territory is 4500, not a single one more. All other 13500 and 15000, are only "estimations".
@optionrider12 The fame of Pollacks as idiots is deserved. You never set foot neither in Grodno nor in Vilnius. Do that and try to speak about their Polishness. Better in Grodno, the artifical teeth are better and cheaper made there. Some thousands of Western Ukrainians in Poland deserve that. It were them who brought pro-Polish and pro-American idiot Yuschenko to power. But where are Russians in Poland, especially millions? And how you can know that washings clo's in Germany?
@tagaphon Eh, Kacap, talking about yourself? Kitaitsy will buy your Russia for American dollars and euros without war. Your hero Stalin (Georgian Soso Dzhugashvili) put over 60 million of your compatriots to death and, back in 2008, you went to Ossetia on a Georgian-American provocation which has cost Russia so far about three trillion of withdrawn western investments (if you don't believe me, visit the archives if the Financial Times of London). Have a good reading!
@optionrider12 Not 60 mlan, but 160 mlns and not killed but ate alive. And as there in Soviet Union were only 150 mlns, he brought some mlns from the Hell, where he works as overdevil. That's why no one Russian I met could tell me that one of his relative died. But as it is printed in Financial Times, what you found in London toilet you used to clean, it should be true. They have special columns for Pollacks in FT, in big letters so you can read.
@tagaphon You poor, pathetic moron! No wonder Russia is almost bankrupt and China blooms. More "patriots" like you and you'll all be soon working for a bowl of rice a day (LOL).
@optionrider12 Before that we'll be as poor as Pollacks, but it will be not that soon. By the way, level of your toilet life is times under Chinese level of life.
@tagaphon You may dream about life like mine. I live in one of the most expensive cities in North America in my own house, can afford skiing in four world-class resorts within one to two hour driving distance from my place, don't have to work for anyone and have enough time to tease idiots like you from time to time. I also know quite a few bright Russians and have many Russian friends, but I'd prefer to suffer a loss shared with one of them rather than making any money with a dimwit like you.
@optionrider12 No, I'd never believe that Yanks will pay as much to idiot without any education, even stupider that average Pollacks. My guess they ordered you to tell that bullshit. All the same I'd use any opportunity to tell to real Poles how much are earning rascals that sell Poland to US.
@tagaphon Your Russia and gangster Puyin know too well that in case shit hits the fan again Poles, Brits, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Fins plus, of course, the US will be first at your throat and as long as at least one American soldier stations in Morąg your shitty Putin will bark but won't bite.
@optionrider12 BTW, smart Russians make billions in Switzerland and help make money other smart people throughout the world. Go to Google and check "Dukascopy". It's founder Andre Duka just thumbs his nose on Putin and makes money hand over fist both as a Forex broker and internationally respected astrophysicist. There are bright Russians around but unfortunately not dimwits like you. Your petroruble is now worth 10 Polish groszes: 1 Russian Ruble (RUB) is equal to 0.1063 Polish Zloty (PLN).
@optionrider12 You write all that bullshit in the hope I'll defend Putin or Medvedev. You are partly right. That's our and only our right to hang them for their crimes. They are only slightly better than your Polish rascals that ruined Poland and continue to destroy it with your help.
@tagaphon earning money is not illigal, man works and gets paid for work. besides 10 years ago I had to go to Germany to see summer rock festivals. Now I dont need to go anywhere, cuz all I want is comin here. So you think they would came, if they knew that none will spend there money (tickets pricies are almost the same like in GER) and go to see couple of international rock stars shows? Economy values are visable by entertaining bussnes. Hollywood won with CCCP cuz ppl wanted rock n roll.
@tagaphon Your right, you pathetic idiot, is to be free to do what Putin and Medvedev will tell you to do. Anyway, leave Poland to Poles, Ukraine to Ukrainians, Lithuania to Lithuanians and Baltic States' to their nationals, as they're safe as long as Putin and Medvedev enjoy support of dimwits like you. BTW, Kacaps in Latvia have to speak Latvian or move out (there are thousands of them in Canada and the US). Same in Lithuania and Estonia.
@optionrider12 The same want I say to you. Leave Ukraine to Ukrainians, Poland to Poles, Lithaunia to Lithaunians etc and fuck to the Hell where you belong, you US murderers.
@tagaphon With pleasure, but I also have quite a bit of real estate in Poland and Ukraine that appreciates 25% a year on average and the tenants pay rent on top of it, but now I'll have to finish and go to a ski hill to vent mu lungs and enjoy fresh powder. Enjoy your evening!
@optionrider12 I feel sort of satisfaction, that any son of a bitch, that was stupid enough to support you Yanks is condemned to death. The Pollacks are dying out, the same about Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians. They are everywhere in the world but their own cities stay empty, plants stand still, the economic is totally failure. Their education is like shit. But the more you win the closer you are to death. The US is living now twice or trice as bad as it lived 20 years ago.
@tagaphon Come and see! My son is tri-lingual has university degrees from Poland, Switzerland and Canada and runs successful businesses in Poland and Switzerland employing tens of Russians who don't want to live and work in their homeland. Our KGHM Polska Miedz SA keeps buying Canadian companies, so your rant is a bit misguided. Read and educate yourself! Now I really gotta run! Cheers!
@optionrider12 No, you are really not Yank. You are stinky Pollack, the worst sort of it, I think you are from szlachta. I can really see, I feel it, you want me to envy you, you are really pissing from effort to make me envy you. Pity you have forbidden Russian language and literature in Poland, may be you would play that idiot. But hardly, you are still surrounded by shit like you, you think that everyone is Pollack like you and will behave like you Pollacks.
@tagaphon I speak and read your language well enough to understand Vladimir Vysotskiy and read Yesenin in Russian but I can't stomach idiots like you. I also like Vertinsky, Okudzhava and Zhanna Bichevskaya, even that bitch with a God-given voice Alla Pugacheva.
@optionrider12 But you are still Pollack. You think the describing of that sort of happiness would make some Russian envy you. Really, small soul - small dreams. I'm ashamed that I didn't recognized at once, you described your dream, not your life. Pollack or not, businessman can't be that stupid. He had to be smart enough to steal money and survive long enough to spend it. With the brains like yours you'd were long ago on the boot-hill.
@optionrider12 You are right, Pollack. Next Polish 'businessman' from YT wouldn't deceive me. I forgot the Polish habit to smear the mustaches with fat for the neighbors to think that he ate meat.
@tagaphon How long ago did you eat any meat? Your Soviet Union is long gone and 90% of Russians are still on a strict diet more than 20 years ago, while Germans and Brits drive vans with refrigerators to buy month supplies of Polish food. Poland makes money and they are happy. BTW, I like Russian food recipes as well as cooking Russian dishes. I simply despise idiotic, pigheaded Kacaps with pea-size brains.
@optionrider12 You see? Typical Pollack. Eat, eat, eat. You need your head to eat in it. For nothing else. But even that you can't. Exactly because Germans and Brits bring away your food. You know the word 'statistic'? Compare how many meat you ate in 1989 and now. Don't think I can't read your news papers and watch your videos on YT.
@tagaphon You've hit the nail on the head! Since your drunken, brainwashed Red Army left Eastern and Central Europe in 1989, Poland has had enormous surplus food production, but, on your side, even in Moscow, you haven't had enough basic staple food, let alone meat, to fill your store shelves and refrigerators. Your government went bankrupt in 1999 and you're still swimming in your own sewerage. Der Russische Wirtschaft (LOL)!
@optionrider12 Are you teenager or do you think I've lost my memory completely? Say to your masters they have to wait another decade with this bullshit. And DIE Russische Wirtschaft is not that bad as Polish. But I know you'd willingly starve another million of your beloved Pollacks so that here in Russia dies another hundred or two hundreds innocent people, as you did that before. By the way, you know what of these three languages your grandchildren will surely not speak? Polish
@tagaphon Got you on this, you best ally of Hitler! It's good that the Brits, Yankees and Poles keep the tab on Germany and the battery of the Patriots are now in Morąg, 80 km from Kaliningrad. After Polish shale gas reserves are brought to production you'll be left with your NG to gas yourselves to oblivion.Go to Google, type "Long Term Capital Management" or "Meriwether" and you'll get all the details of your "Matushka Rossiya's" default on her government debt. You deserve to starve!
@optionrider12 Do you really hate everything Polish? Poland has already experience with inviting foreigners against other Slavs, remember 'crusaders'? If you think that Yanks sometime go away, you are badly mistaken. They NEVER left something voluntarily. And as most Poles are away washing German or British toilets there is nobody to demand this territory back. And third generation of these Polish emigrants would hit anybody who'd suspect not true Germans or British in them.
@tagaphon I wish the Yanks, as call them, stayed in Poland for ever, as the Americans never steal from nations they are allied with. Now, when they make F-16 fighters in Stalowa Wola and Mielec you'd have to be concerned, even though your MIGs are as good or even slightly better than western fighter-bombers, you don't have that sophisticated software to control them, for most Russian developers work for the "Yanks". Money talks, bullshit walks (chest-deep in the sewer waste).
@optionrider12 How I wish our conversation to be translated in Polish on some of well visited Polish sides. But be sure I'll quote it often enough for Polish friends. I don't know either you are total idiot not to know that American ally Japan lost the entire island, the Germany can't get rid of Americans even now, not to mention countries that are now the freshly made US states, whose territories US robbed entirely. You surely know all that but you ordered not to write this
@tagaphon Germany WILL NEVER GET RID OF AMERICANS. The "Yanks" cannot afford another world war. As far as the Kuril Islands are concerned, the Japanese will eventually get them back. Talking my compatriots living in North America, I'm not too proud of them. Many of them are so pigheaded as you are or even worse. Some will never learn any other language and lose command of Polish. Very much like many Russians I know. Instead of investing and making more money they take every dollar to Home Depot.
@tagaphon Mogę ci odpisać po polsku, Kacapie ruski. Szkoda, że naród, który wydał Mendelejewa, Dostojewskiego, Tołstoja, Puszkina, Jeienina i wilelu innych wybitnych ludzi jest zachwaszczony idiotami podobnymi do ciebie. Jesteś zaślepiony nacjonalistyczną propagandą i nawet nie zdajesz sobie sprawy, że armia rosyjska, z wyjątkiem może "Specnaz", to banda niezdyscyplinowanych złodziei i pijaków, którzy nigdy nie dorosną do pięt amerykańskiej piechocie morskiej (Marines).
@optionrider12 I give you permission to fuck off. You've written enough to quote for long time. I'm happy that you anti-Communist are such idiots. I'd pay you from the Communist party sources for propaganda. Don't say that's usual Polish disease. Some Poles were clever, pity they have to live abroad and forget their Polisness. I'm not going to lose my time any more with you and surely I'd never write in Polish to you. Its shame for this language when you touch it.
@rakuuu85 Ten Kacap prawdopodobnie się z kindybałem za głowy pomieniał, jak to się kiedyś we Lwoie mówiło i nigdy mu śliny nie zabraknie. Oglądałem twoją strone na YT. Nieźle prowadzona. Pozdrowienia.
@optionrider12 Panie, tym człekiem sie nie przejmuj ponieważ on nie dość że ma problemy psychiczne, to i umysłowo to żaden z niego Ikar. A wręcz przeciwnie. Brak mu podstawowej logiki i wymachuje tylko dawno już skompromitowanymi sugestiami.
Dzięki za pozytywną opinię. Chętnie przyjmę jakieś sugestie co można by było zamieścić. O naszej 2 RP jest bardzo mało info, więc każda cenna uwaga czy trop, jest potrzebny.
@rakuuu85 Ten idiota i inny mieszkajacy w Nowym Jorku Kacap alex854 to najwięksi sojusznicy Polski i Polaków w wojnie propagandowej. Tagaphon przynajmniej zna angielski na przyzwoitym poziomie, podczas gdy alex854 nie jest w stanie sklecić najprostszego zdania bez co najmniej jednego błędu w każdym wyrazie. Wygląda na to, że w Rosji niewiele się zmieniło od czasów Breżniewa. Trochę mnie denerwuje Jaruzelski, ale jestem dumny z tego, że zapewnia sie skurwysynowi sprawiedliwy proces.
@rakuuu85 Wracając do Pana strony to na razie nie mam sugestii, ponieważ głównie zajmuję się spekulacją derywatami (głównie opcjami) na giełdach amerykańskich i jazdą na nartach. Podczas godzin otwarcia rynków USA mam trochę czasu na przeglądanie wypocin ruskich nacjonalistów i droczenie się z nimi. Oczywiście można przy nich bezpiecznie otwierać okna na wysokich piętrach: nie orły, nie wyfruną. Pozdrowienia!
@tagaphon Talking about yourself? Russian is better design to spew lies than German, although the forefather of communist propaganda Willi Muenzenberg wrote and spoke German. He, not Goebbels "invented" that lies continuously repeated in mass media become perceived as truth. From Lenin, through Brezhnev through Gorbachev to Putin Kremlin floods the rest o the world with lies. Thank goodness Yeltsin drunk too much and opened Kremlin archives shedding some light on heinous Soviet crimes. Be proud!
@optionrider12 By the way, the Yanks descend from British, mostly Anglo-Saxons, so their grand-grand-grand-grand....pa's were the crusaders which never steal from allied. Until they decide that they don't need allies any more but only slaves.
@tagaphon They were a few ballots short in Congress to make German the official language of the US in 1795. BTW, Kosciuszko and Pulaski helped president Washington chase the Brits to where it came from, as general George Patton wanted to do with the Red Army back in 1945 (but he died in a jeep accident in Bavaria later that year). There's no love lost between the Poles and the Russians (Kosciuszko sent quite a few Russians to their maker during the 1794 uprising). We'll never be brethren.
Президент России Д. А. Медведев отметил: «Катынская трагедия – это следствие преступления И.Сталина и ряда его приспешников. Позиция российского государства по этому вопросу давно сформулирована и остается неизменной.»
26 ноября 2010 Госдума России, приняла заявление «О Катынской трагедии и её жертвах», в котором признает, что массовый расстрел польских граждан в Катыни был произведен согласно прямому указанию Сталина и других советских руководителей и является преступлением сталинского режима.
авершившееся в 2004 году расследование Главной военной прокуратуры России подтвердило вынесение «тройкой НКВД» смертных приговоров 14 542 польским военнопленным по обвинению в совершении государственных преступлений и достоверно установила смерть 1803 человек и личность 22 из них[8][9].
Тема Катынского расстрела длительное время осложняла польско-российские отношения и продолжает оставаться актуальной в настоящее время[7][10].
Впервые о нахождении массовых захоронений в Катынском лесу заявили в 1943 году представители Третьего рейха, оккупировавшего эти территории в ходе наступления на СССР. Созванная Германией международная комиссия провела экспертизу и заключила, что расстрелы произведены НКВД весной 1940 года. В свою очередь, Советский Союз отрицал свою причастность к происшедшему.
После освобождения Смоленска советскими войсками была создана комиссия Николая Бурденко, которая, проведя собственное расследование, заключила, что польские граждане были расстреляны в Катыни в 1941 году немецкими оккупационными войсками. Это заключение стало официальной точкой зрения в СССР и странах Варшавского договора до 1990 года, когда руководство СССР официально признало ответственность НКВД СССР[7].
@mdakuzashvili ага,щас...нам лишней крови не надо, - поляков асстреляли немцы,доказательств этому море, так наши(и польские)фальсификаторы своими фальшивками добиваются только одного - доказывают, что поляков расстреляли немцы...как гворится, за что боролись(за правду) - на то и напоролись(на правду)
Катынский расстрел (польск. zbrodnia katyńska — «катынское преступление») — массовые казни польских граждан (в основном пленных офицеров польской армии), осуществлённые весной 1940 года сотрудниками НКВД СССР. Как свидетельствуют опубликованные в 1992 году документы, расстрелы производились по решению тройки НКВД СССР в соответствии с постановлением Политбюро ЦК ВКП(б) от 5 марта 1940 года. Согласно обнародованным архивным документам, всего было расстреляно 21 857 польских пленных.
by the way, Zoria was preparing documents about Katyn from USSR, but he was killed...Martini was preparing documents from Poland - he also was killed...
German troops was in Katyn in 1941 and one moment - IRC was in Katyn in 1944 - with Burdenko and they found documets of september 1941...this documents were in graves, which germans hadn't explored...
@mdakuzashvili я не против,если они льют говно, но они этим говном засоряют умы молодёжи...я не везде и не всегда успеваю отвечать - но стараюсь - в институте, на улице...в телевизор не пускают, там и без меня хватает борцов за Сталина
Чтобы это было правда что вначале фильма с Польша изменила Франции Англию,
и славянскую солидарность,России не было бы на карте потому что Польша пошла чтобы с Германией на Россию и дала 3 миллиона солдат,Гитлер хотел с Польшей поступать в Россию, не догворился, подписал пакт со Сталиным,Сталин на Витебщине убил миллионы поляков и с таким партнером нормальный никто не верил ему,и такой бывший договор Сталина с Гитлером за несколько месяцев ничто не караул.
Ну что там и былоб из за чего ! Дело было и не закрыто а главное наследили очень вонючим ! Типерь надо расковырять историю с выгодай и итд . То что войну полякам досталось больше всех и землю здвинули на територию Гер . тут весь мир молчит ! Самолёт не зря упал и следующий такойже будит . Вы бы лучше сняли фильм про ХОЛОКОС каторого небыла !
***В сознании русских нет Менжинского,Уншлихта(хотя знают о них),как есть Байрон,Шекспир,Диккенс,но нет Вордсворта,Шелли...Полякам очень Скобелев сочувствовал,Ленин,Сталин(что бы ни говорили)..Петр Первый-очень строго Меншикову о них наказывал(не обижать!),но Достоевский был прав,говоря.что Польша никогда не простит России лидерства в славянском мире.***Однако,всё равно профессионалам придётся работать (и патриотам) в этом тяжёлом секторе,такова реальность-быть сфинксом как Сталин и Молотов.***
@afskibin Насчёт яиц-не знаю,но складывается впечатление,что вы считаете Польшу жертовой,а не государством-агрессором,коим она была во Второй мировой в отношении Чехословакии,а в старину-в отношении исконно русских земель.Ян Собесский,достославный воин Польши,сражался с русскими,но не был русофобом,он заглядывал в будущее и считал что общие враги у поляков и русских,а Пилсудский-неисправимый русофоб.Его подчинённые получали воинские отличия за разрушение правосл.церквей до войны и много было др.
***К сожалению,не понимаю точно последнюю фразу.Есть история коммунистов,борцов с гитлеризмом и мировым капиталом,где Дзержинский как основатель КГБ весомо фигурирует,но поляки видят свою историю отдельно(тенденция эта в Польше сильнее прочих других),а в России-от Герцена отвернулись широкие круги общества,когда он стал поддерживать в своём журнале шляхетское восстание,а от Некрасова(сына польки),отвернулись левые,когда он поддержал правительство(царское)в польском вопросе.Рвали его портрет..***
I know Katyn was Russian execution, so what you could do with ? These peoples was enemies of USSR, I am agree with Stalin`s decision. Till 1956 we had in Poland big city Stalinogrod, for a cause of Chruszczow named Katowice now
@alexei854 Quite to the contrary. According to his secretary, after "Winnie" got the Katyn news he stayed locked in his office overnight, didn't see anyone for more than 24 hours, drunk brandy and smoked cigars without eating anything and, eventually called the secretary and said" "I didn't expect the Russians could be so cruel" or something to this effect. He knew all too well who did it, but he also knew that England had no eternal friends or enemies but had eternal interests.
@alexei854 Nether Goebbels nor German troops were in Katyn in 1940. The Katyn report was prepared and released by the International Red Cross, not Goebbels's soldiers. Soviet prosecutor Rudenko during the Nuremberg Trial didn't prosecute Katyn murderers (he would have to charge Stalin and Beria). The sooner you, Russians, understand that it was an NKVD-made massacre the sooner Poland and Russia will normalise their mutual relationship and start trusting each other. BTW, I live in North America.
@optionrider12 and i have to say some moments about USA in WW2 - Reinwissen - a camp for germans, Hirosima and Nagasaki...oh, i forgot about cultural sights - pictures, sculptures and others, which were stolen by your troops and YOUR government destroyed documents about it - but there were many OUR cultural sights and YOU didn's gave them back
@alexei854 The problem is not to auction off mutual atrocities. The fact is that Polish officers were murdered in Katyn and two more places around Smolensk by the SOVIET NKVD in 1940. Period. As far as the Soviet POW count from the 1919-1921 Polish-Bolshevik war is concerned, Poland took between 80 and 86 thousand of Soviet POWs of whom 16 to 20 thousand died in POW camps from illnesses and poor sanitary conditions. It was war. 9 mm ammunition was widely used for pistols in the Soviet Union.
@optionrider12 sorry, but they were pockets Geco 7,65 D....but NKVD always used Nagan and TT
in Mednoe our "explores" found 265 corpses(read Peshkovski)
in Harkov were found 40 corpses(also Peshkovski)
and another great mistake - THE PLACE...it wasn't restricted, it was open - it was pioner's camp...so, you think that "bloody" NKWD was killing polish officers between tents???only idiot(sorry) can believe it
@alexei854 Proper name is Nagant M1895 BTW. NKVD used both 7.65 and 9 mm ammo in Katyn, Bykovnya and Kharkov. Most Katyn victims were shot with 9 mm bullets while many from Kharkov and Bykovnia were shot with 7.65 mm bullets. Keep in mind that Soviets used everything they could lay their hands on. They were the bottom-of-the barrel technologically and there were millions of weapons and pieces of German ammo manufactured there by Germans in 1924-1935 under the 1923 Rapallo Treaty.
@alexei854, Your soldiers had no business in Poland and, after the war, occupied it together with Polish traitors. The Soviet Union occupied Poland for the next 44 years. After your dirty and drunken soldiers left Poland in 1989 all of the sudden Poland was flooded with domestic agricultural products and Polish farmers protested against imports of cheap food from Western Europe, while Russia suffered unimaginable food shortages and eventually defaulted on its national debt nine years later.
@alexei854 If Russia doesn't change its political culture it will eventually be bought out by China, as after the Ossetia provocation western capital and technology pulled out of its economy. Putin is an Interpol-sought criminal protected only by diplomatic immunity (please, google "Putin, The Passionate Eye")
Из комментов ясно,что"воинствующие"не потрудились посмотреть фильм целиком.Видимо,не вынесли напряжения работы мозга и встречи с элементарной логикой.В кучу свалены все обидки не по теме.
Я очень-очень далека от политики.Мне просто повезло с преподавателями истории и посчастливилось бок о бок "внеполитически"сотрудничать с участниками событий,не воинствующих ради воинствования или по заказу,честных и вне всяких партий.
Вот фашисты-гады, это они так же уничтожили 120 миллионов советских граждан... начиная с 1917 года, а всё хотят свалить на КПСС!!! Даже, после того, как их раздолбали в 1945, они гады умудрились растрелять мирных русских людей в 1962 году на площади в Новочеркасске, потому-что у тех жрать ничегошеньки не было!
"Слава прекрасной КПСС и Красной Армии - "верным защитникам" Русского Народа.
Absolutely not! It was Red Army, Stalin who was in Poland, 1939, and they attacked Poland killing these officers. they did it to Finland, Bessarabia, Baltic countries too , starting from 1937. STOP TWISTING THE HISTORY, Communist bastard sons of bitch!
Этих польских офицеров расстреляли немцы в 1941. Это те офицеры которые отсоединились от польской армии под Смоленском те посчитали что СССР каюк они взяли и дезертировали, другие поляки воевали всю войну для оснастки польской армии Сталин выделил 50 мил.руб. и еще когда Германию делили в 1945 СССР выделила часть земель Германии Польше. Полякам памятник бы поставить Сталину. Не все поляки суки как и нас. Долб*ов хватает.
@alexei854 1.Ponad 5000 żołnierzy RKKA osiedliło sie w Polsce, koło miasta Inowrocław, mniej zamieszkało pod Poznaniem. Rosyjskim chórem w Poznaniu kierował rosyjski generał. Wielu jeńców z 1920 uciekło na Litwę. Był wśród nich czekista Szczykunowicz, dziadek obecnego prezydenta Polski, Bronisława Szczykunowicza "Komorowskiego", wzięty do niewoli nad Niemnem. Poza tym na spalonej 5 latami wojny ziemiach polskich w 1918-1920 panował głód i epidemia tyfusu. Zmarło kilkaset tysięcy ludzi.
@alexei854 2.Masa żołnierzy Armii Czerwonej przekroczyło granicę Niemiec- i uciekło na zachód Europy. Wielu zołnierzy Bronsteina- "Trockiego" było na froncie od 1914 roku. W Polsce do dziś mamy obozowe karty zdrowia. Nie masz pojęcia w jakim stanie zdrowotnym były masy rosyjskich żołnierzy w 1920. Żydowskim komunistom nie zależało na zdrowiu i życiu Rosjan. W ich interesie było, by zginęło ich jak najwięcej. Żydzi mordowali też Polaków w Katyniu. Słowianie mają tylko 2 wrogów: Żydów i Niemców.
@domarat11111 я мало что понял, но общую суть уловил - опять жиды,славяне рабы и прочее...я прав?
так вот вас,поляков, Черчилль назвал гиенами...что думал о вас Сталин не знаю - может как о идиотах(слова Пилсудского)...вы хоть почитайте, Как Пилсудский о вас говорил...
и ещё раз повторю - без открытого суда НИКТО И НИКОГО судить не может
@alexei854 Я забыл русский язык:) Более 5000 солдат РККА поселился в Польше, недалеко от города Иновроцлав, меньше жили возле Познани. Многие военнопленные в 1920 году бежал в Литву, а чекиста Szczykunowicz, дед президента Польши, Брониславa Szczykunowicza "Комаровскobo", был взят в плен в сражении на Неман. Кроме того, в Польше в 1918-1920 голод и эпидемии сыпного тифа. Несколько сотен тысяч человек погибли.
@alexei854 2. Масса солдат Красной армии перешли границу Германии, и бежал на запад Европы. Многие из солдат Бронштейн, "Троцкий" был на фронте с 1914 года. В Польше сегодня есть документы из лагерей для военнопленных. Вы не представляете, в каком состоянии здоровья были массы русских войск в 1920 году. Еврейские коммунисты не зависят от здоровья и жизни россиян.. Евреи были также убиты поляков в Катыни- mы знаем их имена.Славяне имеют только два врага: евреи и немцы.
@alexei854 What happened to your 85,000 "Krasnoarmyeitsov" in 1920 in Poland I addressed one day ago. The first question you should ask yourself is: "What did they do on Polish soil in 1919 and 1920?". They wouldn't have been taken prison an/or died in Polish POW camps if they hadn't gone where nobody had invited them. In 1939 Stalin and Hitler partitioned Poland for the fourth time and Polish officers didn't invade the Soviet Union. Now, after 72 years, many Russians come to work in Poland.
@optionrider12 What Polish territory occupied Soviet Union? May be you'll be as brave, as you are here, to repeat in Grodno or in Lviv, that that is Poland?
@tagaphon Grodno and Vilnius are already within the Polish influence and Lvov, perhaps even Kiev, will join soon after Putin's dictatorship is dealt with. For now, millions of Ukrainians and Russians work in Poland taking jobs Poles don't want to touch. There are also Russian and Ukrainian mafias there as well as Russian mafias in Western Europe and North America. Russian mobsters are sponsored by Putin and after he's gone they will have to restructure. Katsaps should be proud of this anyway.
potom udivlyaetes, za chto vas vse tak nenavidyat. Da za vasze vran'e ,podlost' i gnusnuyu propagandu. Nikakih deneg Polsha ne prosit , hotyat tol'ko uslyshat' pravdy, hotyat znat gde pohoroneny ich rodnye . Vyrodki i merzavcy . Brawo Dmowski, brawo Piłsudskij ! Bog,Honor, Ojczyzna.
***Автор-иностранец,объективно который мог бы раскрыть эту тему?-я думаю,Стефан Цвейг.Польский стоит выучить потому что на нём в юности говорил Рокоссовский.но те в Польше,кто против СССР,Сталина--всё равно им История откажет в почестях и подлинной славе.****
****Монета польская(одна)--есть в спичечной коробке...Их государство я всегда особо не любил.Сердца их--чёрствые и злые,хуже пробки...--Монету я нашёл давно.--Апрель в Москве тогда уж,помню,был.*******
so, you think that soviet version was propaganda but Gebbels version was truth?this film shows how Gebbels used Katin...try to analyse facts from that film....
and one question - do you believe everything, that you government told you?
и ладно бы аргументировано ругали, а то ведь одно и тоже "лживый сталинист" и всё...ведь заметьте,Мухин не просто называет кого то "идиотом, кретином,дебилом и тд", а приводит аргументы, почему он их там называет...если есть что то, где мухин ошибся - говорите, он будет только рад таким вопросам...а простой словесный понос пропускает мимо ушей
больше всех Мухина ругают те, кто по уровню интеллекта недалеко ушёл от обезьяны)))всё таки дарвин был прав, лишний раз убеждаюсь в этом после прочтения некоторых комментов
разве Мухин что то берёт из головы?но один совет - лучше почитать книгу, так как там есть источники для особо привередливых...вопрос следователям - почему мы должны верить вам и не должны верить Мухину?
And one more thing(special for foreigners) - if you don't like truth so don't watch or comment such complicated films...watch your hollywood films and enjoy your stupidness...
@alexei854 Truth? The soviet propaganda, which insults viewer's intelligence. It is unfortunate that so much today's young Russians are choosing to remain blind to their own country recent past. It only shows how good was the soviet brainwashing and how long it will take for Russians to recover from the soviet slavery, which so many prefer to cover with a false pride.
If you think about insulting me for writing the truth, go ahead... just yapping of street dogs.
я бы может и поверил,что НКВД расстреляло польских офицериков(было за что), НО...я насчитал 3 разных расследования (немецкое, польское,ГВП)...ссылаются на документы,названия в которых совпадают, но текст почему то разный...почему у антисоветов свидели умирают,документы теряются и остаются "заверенные копии", а у советов свидетели живут и документы в оригинале?вопрос к следователям и их подпевалам
одно дело,когда эти документы подлинны, а документы по катыни,якобы обнаруженные, фальшивка....
кстати, хохма есть - я читал документы по катыни и большая часть часть документов - о том, как же плохо кормили поляков и как же неудобно им на нарах было(рацион и чертёжи были предоставлены)...
Юрий Мухин, большое вам спасибо за фильм и за книгу...ругают ваши произведения только те,кому не нужна эта правда...
От гониво!!! Да есть документы от которых отвертется не получается.
Автор просто УРОД МОРАЛЬНЫЙ. Причём тут какието фильмы если есть документы. Вот такие уроды и провоцируют расизм и национализм. Есть хроника съёмки с захоронений немцами сделаные при эксгумации.
Уродский фильм ни на чём не основан. НИОДНОГО ДОКУМЕНТА. БАЛАБОЛЬСТВО СПЛОШНОЕ. ОТСТОЙ.
откуда тут столько поляков????0)))
pavel280488AA 1 month ago
@pavel280488AA We're already at Kacaps' throats.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Listen half-breed, one more spam from you and you're banned. Stay by the facts.
khorovod 1 month ago
@khorovod No love lost, you communist fanatic. You'd better stick to the facts. Do you really think that I'm here to polemise with you? Your stance is quite transparent: "My way or highway" and teasing you by bringing about cold facts is the only way to further expose your fanaticism. Unfortunately, you're kicking a horse that is long dead, if not dead in the water.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@khorovod Looks like you need a translator to communicate with me while I, on the other hand, understand your Russian, can decipher your English and play wit words in both English and my native Polish. I've read more history in three languages than you'll ever do in your native Russian. The Internet gives you a venue to spew your ignorant ideas and it's very good for those who still exercise some common sense and stick to facts.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Me no need translator. I don't give a crap how many tongues you speak, smart ass. You can present your "facts" here but any further hate speech towards Russians will lead to your ban. That's all.
khorovod 1 month ago
@khorovod You must be thinking about yourself and the likes who litter this channel let alone the very video at the top where quantity (over three and a half hours) doesn't bring a tiny bit of quality and is a primitive extension of the Soviet propaganda. I don't have a problem with Russia as long as it keeps away from other countries and nations. It doesn't belong in Central and Western Europe. BTW, it's Black Sea fleet is landlocked, for Turkey (a NATO member) controls the Bosphorus.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Doesn't matter in the least what I think. You just keep on trying to disprove Muhin's arguments with your "facts".
khorovod 1 month ago
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optionrider12 1 month ago
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@khorovod How dare yo? The Soviets and the Nazis made modern history as the most outrageous liers and mass-murderers. Dzerzhinsky and Stalin are "credited" with annihilation of 60 million mostly Soviet citizens in labour camps, wars, starved and juducially or summarily killed in mass executions between 1918 and 1953. Communist and Nazi propaganda were second to none. I also read a Pravda editorial from 1938 praising Hitler and lauding commonalities between communism and national socialism.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@khorovod Is Muhin, BTW, a kind of communist Pope that everything he says is a dogma and condemned are those who don't believe his pontificated bullshit? Come to your senses and put your brains in gear before you hit the keyboard of your computer.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Whatever you say but it doesn't change the fact that you can't do anything about it. Muhin has gathered significant evidence that Germans killed the Poles in Katyn. Now it's on you do prove otherwise. Poor you can't do that?!
khorovod 1 month ago
@khorovod Your Rudenko could have done it in Nuremberg. Why didn't he do it and no Nazi war criminal was charged and sentenced for the Katyn massacre there? Your Muhin or Mukhin is a crook and a lier as most Russian communists and negates what was released by Yeltsin and Putin from NKVD and KGB archives. No point in arguing with an idiot, as others may not know the difference. Why the Soviets inflated the number of killed in Auschwitz to six million while no more than 1.3 million died there?
optionrider12 1 month ago
Looks like the Russians will be kicked out of Syria where they have military bases sooner rather than later. Obama doesn't bark like George W. Bush. HE BITES! Bin-Laden is dead, All Maghreb countries, Egypt, Iraq, most of Yemen and Lybia have been yanked out of the Russian influence zone. Once Syria is neutralised Lebanon will promptly return to its former position of "Switzerland of the Middle East". Just wait and see! If Romney beats Obama, he'll be even tougher on the Russians.
optionrider12 1 month ago
Poland, as England and any state ruled by its patriots doesn't have eternal friends or eternal enemies but always has eternal business contributing to the well-being of its citizens. Poland survives without Russia but Russia won't without trading with the rest of the world.
optionrider12 1 month ago
Even China spends more than twice as much as Russia on its army, so Russia has been reduced to the status of a regional boogeyman.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Why do you think that Russia is trying so hard to re conquer Ukraine? Without Ukraine Russia remains isolated further from Europe and pushed back to Asia where it belongs!!
101Restoration 1 month ago
@101Restoration Exactly, and I believe that the Ukrainians won't extend Russian lease of the Sevastopol military base past 2013 which will render its Black Sea war fleet next to useless. Poland should lobby the EU and NATO to accept Ukraine ASAP, especially in light of future Polish production of enough shale gas to supply the rest of Europe, Ukraine included, for next 100 years. That would leave Russia with its gas possible to ship to Asian clients only. Russians reap what they've sown.
optionrider12 1 month ago
How Russia with the GDP size of California's and military spending of 8% of the US's can do anything else but barking (US military spending constitutes 43% of global expenditure on the military)? Just do the math! Also, the US Army keeps fighting all over the world at all times while the Russian army hasn't had any real military exposure since the Afghan intervention and the Chechnya's independence war, save the Ossetia occupation. The odds are not stack in Russia's favour and Putin knows it.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@tagaphon Hope Chinese communists will teach you a memorable lesson soon as "Yanks" don't give you a damn as long as you limit yourself to barking without biting. BTW, Muslims within the former Soviet Union give Russia a harder time than al-Queda the rest of Western world. I also forgot to mention that if shit hist the fan Chechnya will be at Russia's throat too. A teraz połóż się spać, tępy Kacapie.
optionrider12 1 month ago
I beg the real Poles pardon. If that is reading the Pole that understands English he'd understand that this guy is not worth to be called Pole. He is the cause why Poland is where it is.
tagaphon 1 month ago
Советская власть УНИЧТОЖИЛА до войны с Германией МИЛЛИОНЫ своих граждан! Без всякого Гитлера проводила план “Ост” в жизнь! Коммунистический кровавый РЕЖИМ должен быть осужден, как и нацистский! Народ должен узнать, при каких условиях стали возможны МАССОВЫЕ репрессии, убийства, голодомор, такие ОГРОМНЫЕ, ни с чем не сравнимые потери в Великой Отечественной войне - 27 млн. советских граждан! А в Беларуси повсюду памятники Ленину и Сталину и нынешний РЕЖИМ восхваляет этих УБИЙЦ!
pravdorez077 1 month ago
@pravdorez077 You're right. Sovietskaya vlast was among the most barbaric and criminal regimes in modern history. Communism couldn't do anything constructive without destruction exceeding tens of times the benefits of its perverted policies and ideology. The former Soviet Union was an inhuman and inhumane land.
optionrider12 3 weeks ago
@optionrider12 Yeah, Hitler's Germany was the state of true humanism. And nowdays America took upon itself the burden of savior, destroying totalitarism, and bringing freedom all over the world. Sure.
1975pagal 2 weeks ago
@1975pagal Now, your compatriots in Latvia will have to learn Latvian, hire translators and/or interpreters, or go back to Russia and put up with the living standard lower by half than what they enjoy in the country the Soviets had occupied for 50 years. History and its justice is catching up with your "great" robber predecessors (LMAO).
optionrider12 2 weeks ago
@1975pagal No worse than the Stalinist Soviet Union, but had better technology (Soviet Migs and American jet fighters were built from blueprints of German jet fighters introduced in 1945 to fight WW2 on which the Allies laid their hands after the unconditional capitulation of Nazi Germany in 1945). Stalin and Hitler were totally worthy one another (LMAO).
optionrider12 1 week ago
"Only" about 4500 Polish POWs from the soviet POW camp in Kozyelsk were executed by the NKVD in the Katyn forest in the spring of 1940. POWs from POW camps in Starobyelsk and Ostashkov were shot elsewhere. The total number of those who were "liquidated" by the NKVD with "9 grams to the back of the head" is estimated at between 13,500 and 15,000.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 The total number of dead Pollacks found on Soviet territory is 4500, not a single one more. All other 13500 and 15000, are only "estimations".
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Even one Polish soldier or officer shot in Katyn or elsewhere by the NKVD is one too many and classifies Kacaps as war criminals.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 The fame of Pollacks as idiots is deserved. You never set foot neither in Grodno nor in Vilnius. Do that and try to speak about their Polishness. Better in Grodno, the artifical teeth are better and cheaper made there. Some thousands of Western Ukrainians in Poland deserve that. It were them who brought pro-Polish and pro-American idiot Yuschenko to power. But where are Russians in Poland, especially millions? And how you can know that washings clo's in Germany?
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Eh, Kacap, talking about yourself? Kitaitsy will buy your Russia for American dollars and euros without war. Your hero Stalin (Georgian Soso Dzhugashvili) put over 60 million of your compatriots to death and, back in 2008, you went to Ossetia on a Georgian-American provocation which has cost Russia so far about three trillion of withdrawn western investments (if you don't believe me, visit the archives if the Financial Times of London). Have a good reading!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Not 60 mlan, but 160 mlns and not killed but ate alive. And as there in Soviet Union were only 150 mlns, he brought some mlns from the Hell, where he works as overdevil. That's why no one Russian I met could tell me that one of his relative died. But as it is printed in Financial Times, what you found in London toilet you used to clean, it should be true. They have special columns for Pollacks in FT, in big letters so you can read.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Molchay, svolotch!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@tagaphon Pray for your health because it's too late to wise-up. BTW, learn English and history you Kacap-fascist!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 What? you want me to replace you in British toilet? That's what I call Slav friendship!
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon You poor, pathetic moron! No wonder Russia is almost bankrupt and China blooms. More "patriots" like you and you'll all be soon working for a bowl of rice a day (LOL).
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Before that we'll be as poor as Pollacks, but it will be not that soon. By the way, level of your toilet life is times under Chinese level of life.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon You may dream about life like mine. I live in one of the most expensive cities in North America in my own house, can afford skiing in four world-class resorts within one to two hour driving distance from my place, don't have to work for anyone and have enough time to tease idiots like you from time to time. I also know quite a few bright Russians and have many Russian friends, but I'd prefer to suffer a loss shared with one of them rather than making any money with a dimwit like you.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 No, I'd never believe that Yanks will pay as much to idiot without any education, even stupider that average Pollacks. My guess they ordered you to tell that bullshit. All the same I'd use any opportunity to tell to real Poles how much are earning rascals that sell Poland to US.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Your Russia and gangster Puyin know too well that in case shit hits the fan again Poles, Brits, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and Fins plus, of course, the US will be first at your throat and as long as at least one American soldier stations in Morąg your shitty Putin will bark but won't bite.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 BTW, smart Russians make billions in Switzerland and help make money other smart people throughout the world. Go to Google and check "Dukascopy". It's founder Andre Duka just thumbs his nose on Putin and makes money hand over fist both as a Forex broker and internationally respected astrophysicist. There are bright Russians around but unfortunately not dimwits like you. Your petroruble is now worth 10 Polish groszes: 1 Russian Ruble (RUB) is equal to 0.1063 Polish Zloty (PLN).
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 You write all that bullshit in the hope I'll defend Putin or Medvedev. You are partly right. That's our and only our right to hang them for their crimes. They are only slightly better than your Polish rascals that ruined Poland and continue to destroy it with your help.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon since 1989 my family income multiplied approximetly 5 times.....and urs?
rakuuu85 1 month ago
@rakuuu85 You forgot to mention that your income is not in zl, not even in Euro or pounds, but in shekels. You wrote that me last time, remember?
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon earning money is not illigal, man works and gets paid for work. besides 10 years ago I had to go to Germany to see summer rock festivals. Now I dont need to go anywhere, cuz all I want is comin here. So you think they would came, if they knew that none will spend there money (tickets pricies are almost the same like in GER) and go to see couple of international rock stars shows? Economy values are visable by entertaining bussnes. Hollywood won with CCCP cuz ppl wanted rock n roll.
rakuuu85 1 month ago
@tagaphon Your right, you pathetic idiot, is to be free to do what Putin and Medvedev will tell you to do. Anyway, leave Poland to Poles, Ukraine to Ukrainians, Lithuania to Lithuanians and Baltic States' to their nationals, as they're safe as long as Putin and Medvedev enjoy support of dimwits like you. BTW, Kacaps in Latvia have to speak Latvian or move out (there are thousands of them in Canada and the US). Same in Lithuania and Estonia.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 The same want I say to you. Leave Ukraine to Ukrainians, Poland to Poles, Lithaunia to Lithaunians etc and fuck to the Hell where you belong, you US murderers.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon With pleasure, but I also have quite a bit of real estate in Poland and Ukraine that appreciates 25% a year on average and the tenants pay rent on top of it, but now I'll have to finish and go to a ski hill to vent mu lungs and enjoy fresh powder. Enjoy your evening!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 I feel sort of satisfaction, that any son of a bitch, that was stupid enough to support you Yanks is condemned to death. The Pollacks are dying out, the same about Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians. They are everywhere in the world but their own cities stay empty, plants stand still, the economic is totally failure. Their education is like shit. But the more you win the closer you are to death. The US is living now twice or trice as bad as it lived 20 years ago.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Come and see! My son is tri-lingual has university degrees from Poland, Switzerland and Canada and runs successful businesses in Poland and Switzerland employing tens of Russians who don't want to live and work in their homeland. Our KGHM Polska Miedz SA keeps buying Canadian companies, so your rant is a bit misguided. Read and educate yourself! Now I really gotta run! Cheers!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 No, you are really not Yank. You are stinky Pollack, the worst sort of it, I think you are from szlachta. I can really see, I feel it, you want me to envy you, you are really pissing from effort to make me envy you. Pity you have forbidden Russian language and literature in Poland, may be you would play that idiot. But hardly, you are still surrounded by shit like you, you think that everyone is Pollack like you and will behave like you Pollacks.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon I speak and read your language well enough to understand Vladimir Vysotskiy and read Yesenin in Russian but I can't stomach idiots like you. I also like Vertinsky, Okudzhava and Zhanna Bichevskaya, even that bitch with a God-given voice Alla Pugacheva.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 But you are still Pollack. You think the describing of that sort of happiness would make some Russian envy you. Really, small soul - small dreams. I'm ashamed that I didn't recognized at once, you described your dream, not your life. Pollack or not, businessman can't be that stupid. He had to be smart enough to steal money and survive long enough to spend it. With the brains like yours you'd were long ago on the boot-hill.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Oh, Kacap, Kacap, when will you mature?
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 You are right, Pollack. Next Polish 'businessman' from YT wouldn't deceive me. I forgot the Polish habit to smear the mustaches with fat for the neighbors to think that he ate meat.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon How long ago did you eat any meat? Your Soviet Union is long gone and 90% of Russians are still on a strict diet more than 20 years ago, while Germans and Brits drive vans with refrigerators to buy month supplies of Polish food. Poland makes money and they are happy. BTW, I like Russian food recipes as well as cooking Russian dishes. I simply despise idiotic, pigheaded Kacaps with pea-size brains.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 You see? Typical Pollack. Eat, eat, eat. You need your head to eat in it. For nothing else. But even that you can't. Exactly because Germans and Brits bring away your food. You know the word 'statistic'? Compare how many meat you ate in 1989 and now. Don't think I can't read your news papers and watch your videos on YT.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon You've hit the nail on the head! Since your drunken, brainwashed Red Army left Eastern and Central Europe in 1989, Poland has had enormous surplus food production, but, on your side, even in Moscow, you haven't had enough basic staple food, let alone meat, to fill your store shelves and refrigerators. Your government went bankrupt in 1999 and you're still swimming in your own sewerage. Der Russische Wirtschaft (LOL)!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Are you teenager or do you think I've lost my memory completely? Say to your masters they have to wait another decade with this bullshit. And DIE Russische Wirtschaft is not that bad as Polish. But I know you'd willingly starve another million of your beloved Pollacks so that here in Russia dies another hundred or two hundreds innocent people, as you did that before. By the way, you know what of these three languages your grandchildren will surely not speak? Polish
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Got you on this, you best ally of Hitler! It's good that the Brits, Yankees and Poles keep the tab on Germany and the battery of the Patriots are now in Morąg, 80 km from Kaliningrad. After Polish shale gas reserves are brought to production you'll be left with your NG to gas yourselves to oblivion.Go to Google, type "Long Term Capital Management" or "Meriwether" and you'll get all the details of your "Matushka Rossiya's" default on her government debt. You deserve to starve!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Do you really hate everything Polish? Poland has already experience with inviting foreigners against other Slavs, remember 'crusaders'? If you think that Yanks sometime go away, you are badly mistaken. They NEVER left something voluntarily. And as most Poles are away washing German or British toilets there is nobody to demand this territory back. And third generation of these Polish emigrants would hit anybody who'd suspect not true Germans or British in them.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon I wish the Yanks, as call them, stayed in Poland for ever, as the Americans never steal from nations they are allied with. Now, when they make F-16 fighters in Stalowa Wola and Mielec you'd have to be concerned, even though your MIGs are as good or even slightly better than western fighter-bombers, you don't have that sophisticated software to control them, for most Russian developers work for the "Yanks". Money talks, bullshit walks (chest-deep in the sewer waste).
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 How I wish our conversation to be translated in Polish on some of well visited Polish sides. But be sure I'll quote it often enough for Polish friends. I don't know either you are total idiot not to know that American ally Japan lost the entire island, the Germany can't get rid of Americans even now, not to mention countries that are now the freshly made US states, whose territories US robbed entirely. You surely know all that but you ordered not to write this
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Germany WILL NEVER GET RID OF AMERICANS. The "Yanks" cannot afford another world war. As far as the Kuril Islands are concerned, the Japanese will eventually get them back. Talking my compatriots living in North America, I'm not too proud of them. Many of them are so pigheaded as you are or even worse. Some will never learn any other language and lose command of Polish. Very much like many Russians I know. Instead of investing and making more money they take every dollar to Home Depot.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@tagaphon Mogę ci odpisać po polsku, Kacapie ruski. Szkoda, że naród, który wydał Mendelejewa, Dostojewskiego, Tołstoja, Puszkina, Jeienina i wilelu innych wybitnych ludzi jest zachwaszczony idiotami podobnymi do ciebie. Jesteś zaślepiony nacjonalistyczną propagandą i nawet nie zdajesz sobie sprawy, że armia rosyjska, z wyjątkiem może "Specnaz", to banda niezdyscyplinowanych złodziei i pijaków, którzy nigdy nie dorosną do pięt amerykańskiej piechocie morskiej (Marines).
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 I give you permission to fuck off. You've written enough to quote for long time. I'm happy that you anti-Communist are such idiots. I'd pay you from the Communist party sources for propaganda. Don't say that's usual Polish disease. Some Poles were clever, pity they have to live abroad and forget their Polisness. I'm not going to lose my time any more with you and surely I'd never write in Polish to you. Its shame for this language when you touch it.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon its high time you should mind ur own biznessss ehm?
rakuuu85 1 month ago
@rakuuu85 Ten Kacap prawdopodobnie się z kindybałem za głowy pomieniał, jak to się kiedyś we Lwoie mówiło i nigdy mu śliny nie zabraknie. Oglądałem twoją strone na YT. Nieźle prowadzona. Pozdrowienia.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 Panie, tym człekiem sie nie przejmuj ponieważ on nie dość że ma problemy psychiczne, to i umysłowo to żaden z niego Ikar. A wręcz przeciwnie. Brak mu podstawowej logiki i wymachuje tylko dawno już skompromitowanymi sugestiami.
Dzięki za pozytywną opinię. Chętnie przyjmę jakieś sugestie co można by było zamieścić. O naszej 2 RP jest bardzo mało info, więc każda cenna uwaga czy trop, jest potrzebny.
rakuuu85 1 month ago
@rakuuu85 Ten idiota i inny mieszkajacy w Nowym Jorku Kacap alex854 to najwięksi sojusznicy Polski i Polaków w wojnie propagandowej. Tagaphon przynajmniej zna angielski na przyzwoitym poziomie, podczas gdy alex854 nie jest w stanie sklecić najprostszego zdania bez co najmniej jednego błędu w każdym wyrazie. Wygląda na to, że w Rosji niewiele się zmieniło od czasów Breżniewa. Trochę mnie denerwuje Jaruzelski, ale jestem dumny z tego, że zapewnia sie skurwysynowi sprawiedliwy proces.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@rakuuu85 Wracając do Pana strony to na razie nie mam sugestii, ponieważ głównie zajmuję się spekulacją derywatami (głównie opcjami) na giełdach amerykańskich i jazdą na nartach. Podczas godzin otwarcia rynków USA mam trochę czasu na przeglądanie wypocin ruskich nacjonalistów i droczenie się z nimi. Oczywiście można przy nich bezpiecznie otwierać okna na wysokich piętrach: nie orły, nie wyfruną. Pozdrowienia!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@tagaphon Talking about yourself? Russian is better design to spew lies than German, although the forefather of communist propaganda Willi Muenzenberg wrote and spoke German. He, not Goebbels "invented" that lies continuously repeated in mass media become perceived as truth. From Lenin, through Brezhnev through Gorbachev to Putin Kremlin floods the rest o the world with lies. Thank goodness Yeltsin drunk too much and opened Kremlin archives shedding some light on heinous Soviet crimes. Be proud!
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 By the way, the Yanks descend from British, mostly Anglo-Saxons, so their grand-grand-grand-grand....pa's were the crusaders which never steal from allied. Until they decide that they don't need allies any more but only slaves.
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon They were a few ballots short in Congress to make German the official language of the US in 1795. BTW, Kosciuszko and Pulaski helped president Washington chase the Brits to where it came from, as general George Patton wanted to do with the Red Army back in 1945 (but he died in a jeep accident in Bavaria later that year). There's no love lost between the Poles and the Russians (Kosciuszko sent quite a few Russians to their maker during the 1794 uprising). We'll never be brethren.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@tagaphon yeah, how much do you earn? and why bottle of vodka with cigaretts cost the price we pay for a bread?
rakuuu85 1 month ago
Президент России Д. А. Медведев отметил: «Катынская трагедия – это следствие преступления И.Сталина и ряда его приспешников. Позиция российского государства по этому вопросу давно сформулирована и остается неизменной.»
26 ноября 2010 Госдума России, приняла заявление «О Катынской трагедии и её жертвах», в котором признает, что массовый расстрел польских граждан в Катыни был произведен согласно прямому указанию Сталина и других советских руководителей и является преступлением сталинского режима.
sasha19211 1 month ago
авершившееся в 2004 году расследование Главной военной прокуратуры России подтвердило вынесение «тройкой НКВД» смертных приговоров 14 542 польским военнопленным по обвинению в совершении государственных преступлений и достоверно установила смерть 1803 человек и личность 22 из них[8][9].
Тема Катынского расстрела длительное время осложняла польско-российские отношения и продолжает оставаться актуальной в настоящее время[7][10].
sasha19211 1 month ago
Впервые о нахождении массовых захоронений в Катынском лесу заявили в 1943 году представители Третьего рейха, оккупировавшего эти территории в ходе наступления на СССР. Созванная Германией международная комиссия провела экспертизу и заключила, что расстрелы произведены НКВД весной 1940 года. В свою очередь, Советский Союз отрицал свою причастность к происшедшему.
sasha19211 1 month ago
После освобождения Смоленска советскими войсками была создана комиссия Николая Бурденко, которая, проведя собственное расследование, заключила, что польские граждане были расстреляны в Катыни в 1941 году немецкими оккупационными войсками. Это заключение стало официальной точкой зрения в СССР и странах Варшавского договора до 1990 года, когда руководство СССР официально признало ответственность НКВД СССР[7].
sasha19211 1 month ago
@mdakuzashvili ага,щас...нам лишней крови не надо, - поляков асстреляли немцы,доказательств этому море, так наши(и польские)фальсификаторы своими фальшивками добиваются только одного - доказывают, что поляков расстреляли немцы...как гворится, за что боролись(за правду) - на то и напоролись(на правду)
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854
Катынский расстрел (польск. zbrodnia katyńska — «катынское преступление») — массовые казни польских граждан (в основном пленных офицеров польской армии), осуществлённые весной 1940 года сотрудниками НКВД СССР. Как свидетельствуют опубликованные в 1992 году документы, расстрелы производились по решению тройки НКВД СССР в соответствии с постановлением Политбюро ЦК ВКП(б) от 5 марта 1940 года. Согласно обнародованным архивным документам, всего было расстреляно 21 857 польских пленных.
sasha19211 1 month ago
by the way, Zoria was preparing documents about Katyn from USSR, but he was killed...Martini was preparing documents from Poland - he also was killed...
German troops was in Katyn in 1941 and one moment - IRC was in Katyn in 1944 - with Burdenko and they found documets of september 1941...this documents were in graves, which germans hadn't explored...
alexei854 1 month ago
@mdakuzashvili я не против,если они льют говно, но они этим говном засоряют умы молодёжи...я не везде и не всегда успеваю отвечать - но стараюсь - в институте, на улице...в телевизор не пускают, там и без меня хватает борцов за Сталина
alexei854 1 month ago
Чтобы это было правда что вначале фильма с Польша изменила Франции Англию,
и славянскую солидарность,России не было бы на карте потому что Польша пошла чтобы с Германией на Россию и дала 3 миллиона солдат,Гитлер хотел с Польшей поступать в Россию, не догворился, подписал пакт со Сталиным,Сталин на Витебщине убил миллионы поляков и с таким партнером нормальный никто не верил ему,и такой бывший договор Сталина с Гитлером за несколько месяцев ничто не караул.
Andrzejlexpolonica 1 month ago
Россия существует потому что Польша не пошла с Гитлером на войну с Россией и просто это сказать а не лгать на Польшу
Andrzejlexpolonica 1 month ago
Этот фильм это совдеповский пропаганда.Польска не могля принять Российское помощи потому что Россия была не достоверная как страна в помощь.
Даже одни россиян Сталин убил миллионы людей всех офицеров красной армии и такого союзника впустить на родину лишь бы потом из него не вышел. Вздор.
Одни россияне достали Сталина и массово дезертировали вначале войны с Гитлером
Andrzejlexpolonica 1 month ago
фільм - жидівська брехня
vodomanuch2505 1 month ago
Отличный фильм, интересные факты, редкий глоток правды, учитывая сплошной предательский фон официального сми!
WebHitman777 1 month ago
Ну что там и былоб из за чего ! Дело было и не закрыто а главное наследили очень вонючим ! Типерь надо расковырять историю с выгодай и итд . То что войну полякам досталось больше всех и землю здвинули на територию Гер . тут весь мир молчит ! Самолёт не зря упал и следующий такойже будит . Вы бы лучше сняли фильм про ХОЛОКОС каторого небыла !
olaf713713 1 month ago
What is this bullshit? Russia is evil!
warglow 2 months ago
***В сознании русских нет Менжинского,Уншлихта(хотя знают о них),как есть Байрон,Шекспир,Диккенс,но нет Вордсворта,Шелли...Полякам очень Скобелев сочувствовал,Ленин,Сталин(что бы ни говорили)..Петр Первый-очень строго Меншикову о них наказывал(не обижать!),но Достоевский был прав,говоря.что Польша никогда не простит России лидерства в славянском мире.***Однако,всё равно профессионалам придётся работать (и патриотам) в этом тяжёлом секторе,такова реальность-быть сфинксом как Сталин и Молотов.***
alois294 2 months ago
@alois294 А Что поляки вам так на яйца наступили?? Фальшивки лепили все в то время и КГБ И КПСС., и фашисты.
afskibin 1 month ago
@afskibin Насчёт яиц-не знаю,но складывается впечатление,что вы считаете Польшу жертовой,а не государством-агрессором,коим она была во Второй мировой в отношении Чехословакии,а в старину-в отношении исконно русских земель.Ян Собесский,достославный воин Польши,сражался с русскими,но не был русофобом,он заглядывал в будущее и считал что общие враги у поляков и русских,а Пилсудский-неисправимый русофоб.Его подчинённые получали воинские отличия за разрушение правосл.церквей до войны и много было др.
alois294 1 month ago
Смоленская земля оплатила пшекам щедро!
1975Volk 2 months ago
watch?v=KFBV_802tSw
watch?v=3EoCzQcMKqg
watch?v=py-S6XgYMKk
rwektboiw 2 months ago
***К сожалению,не понимаю точно последнюю фразу.Есть история коммунистов,борцов с гитлеризмом и мировым капиталом,где Дзержинский как основатель КГБ весомо фигурирует,но поляки видят свою историю отдельно(тенденция эта в Польше сильнее прочих других),а в России-от Герцена отвернулись широкие круги общества,когда он стал поддерживать в своём журнале шляхетское восстание,а от Некрасова(сына польки),отвернулись левые,когда он поддержал правительство(царское)в польском вопросе.Рвали его портрет..***
alois294 2 months ago
I know Katyn was Russian execution, so what you could do with ? These peoples was enemies of USSR, I am agree with Stalin`s decision. Till 1956 we had in Poland big city Stalinogrod, for a cause of Chruszczow named Katowice now
staliniec55 2 months ago
@staliniec55 Go and seek psychiatric help. BTW, you and all your ilk deserve Putin kleptocracy.
optionrider12 1 month ago
вообще, правильно Пилсудский в своё время говорил о поляках как об идиотах
alexei854 2 months ago
sorry, killed in 1920 -1921 and in 1945...
or, and don't forget about your bastards, who killed our people with german soldiers
alexei854 2 months ago
@alexei854 You'd have to learn history and, next, seek help of a good psychiatrist.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@alexei854 And your Western Allies should have driven you where you had come from back in 1945, as general Patton and PM Churchill suggested.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 as i know, Churchill never believed in Gebbels' version
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 Quite to the contrary. According to his secretary, after "Winnie" got the Katyn news he stayed locked in his office overnight, didn't see anyone for more than 24 hours, drunk brandy and smoked cigars without eating anything and, eventually called the secretary and said" "I didn't expect the Russians could be so cruel" or something to this effect. He knew all too well who did it, but he also knew that England had no eternal friends or enemies but had eternal interests.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 maybe it was his first reaction - but we have too many Gebbels' mistakes...weapon, place...
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 Nether Goebbels nor German troops were in Katyn in 1940. The Katyn report was prepared and released by the International Red Cross, not Goebbels's soldiers. Soviet prosecutor Rudenko during the Nuremberg Trial didn't prosecute Katyn murderers (he would have to charge Stalin and Beria). The sooner you, Russians, understand that it was an NKVD-made massacre the sooner Poland and Russia will normalise their mutual relationship and start trusting each other. BTW, I live in North America.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 and i have to say some moments about USA in WW2 - Reinwissen - a camp for germans, Hirosima and Nagasaki...oh, i forgot about cultural sights - pictures, sculptures and others, which were stolen by your troops and YOUR government destroyed documents about it - but there were many OUR cultural sights and YOU didn's gave them back
alexei854 1 month ago
@optionrider12 the main argument against Gebbels' version - pistols...there were no other place, where we used Walters...i find it quite strange
alexei854 1 month ago
@optionrider12 sorry for some mistakes in language, i'm not an expert in writing...
if you can't understand something, ask me - i try to explain
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 The problem is not to auction off mutual atrocities. The fact is that Polish officers were murdered in Katyn and two more places around Smolensk by the SOVIET NKVD in 1940. Period. As far as the Soviet POW count from the 1919-1921 Polish-Bolshevik war is concerned, Poland took between 80 and 86 thousand of Soviet POWs of whom 16 to 20 thousand died in POW camps from illnesses and poor sanitary conditions. It was war. 9 mm ammunition was widely used for pistols in the Soviet Union.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 sorry, but they were pockets Geco 7,65 D....but NKVD always used Nagan and TT
in Mednoe our "explores" found 265 corpses(read Peshkovski)
in Harkov were found 40 corpses(also Peshkovski)
and another great mistake - THE PLACE...it wasn't restricted, it was open - it was pioner's camp...so, you think that "bloody" NKWD was killing polish officers between tents???only idiot(sorry) can believe it
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 Proper name is Nagant M1895 BTW. NKVD used both 7.65 and 9 mm ammo in Katyn, Bykovnya and Kharkov. Most Katyn victims were shot with 9 mm bullets while many from Kharkov and Bykovnia were shot with 7.65 mm bullets. Keep in mind that Soviets used everything they could lay their hands on. They were the bottom-of-the barrel technologically and there were millions of weapons and pieces of German ammo manufactured there by Germans in 1924-1935 under the 1923 Rapallo Treaty.
optionrider12 1 month ago
special for Poland - so, you want money from us?
but first, pay for our soldiers, who was kille in Poland in 1920...
alexei854 2 months ago
@alexei854, Your soldiers had no business in Poland and, after the war, occupied it together with Polish traitors. The Soviet Union occupied Poland for the next 44 years. After your dirty and drunken soldiers left Poland in 1989 all of the sudden Poland was flooded with domestic agricultural products and Polish farmers protested against imports of cheap food from Western Europe, while Russia suffered unimaginable food shortages and eventually defaulted on its national debt nine years later.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 another brain-washed comrad...
i repeat again and again - without true documents we can't solve this problem...Muhin shows his version, but i haven't seen disproof of his version
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 If Russia doesn't change its political culture it will eventually be bought out by China, as after the Ossetia provocation western capital and technology pulled out of its economy. Putin is an Interpol-sought criminal protected only by diplomatic immunity (please, google "Putin, The Passionate Eye")
optionrider12 1 month ago
Takich Katyni w Rossiji mnoga.Tam Russkije ubijali Russkich.No drugije Russkije zabyli ob etich
zertwach komunizma.Polaki nie mogut zabyt.Zaczem tut Wysockij pajot? film prosta komunisticzeskaja propaganda.
brawo98 2 months ago
@brawo98
moze ma pan racje, ale historycsny dokumenty nie jest propaganda, trzeba niezalezny sad
olegfisch 1 month ago
3ю серию надо было сделать 1ой :о)
Из комментов ясно,что"воинствующие"не потрудились посмотреть фильм целиком.Видимо,не вынесли напряжения работы мозга и встречи с элементарной логикой.В кучу свалены все обидки не по теме.
Я очень-очень далека от политики.Мне просто повезло с преподавателями истории и посчастливилось бок о бок "внеполитически"сотрудничать с участниками событий,не воинствующих ради воинствования или по заказу,честных и вне всяких партий.
Эх,в наши школы и ВУЗы бы этот фильм!!
HarpVideos 2 months ago
Вот фашисты-гады, это они так же уничтожили 120 миллионов советских граждан... начиная с 1917 года, а всё хотят свалить на КПСС!!! Даже, после того, как их раздолбали в 1945, они гады умудрились растрелять мирных русских людей в 1962 году на площади в Новочеркасске, потому-что у тех жрать ничегошеньки не было!
"Слава прекрасной КПСС и Красной Армии - "верным защитникам" Русского Народа.
TheCorsar777 2 months ago
Absolutely not! It was Red Army, Stalin who was in Poland, 1939, and they attacked Poland killing these officers. they did it to Finland, Bessarabia, Baltic countries too , starting from 1937. STOP TWISTING THE HISTORY, Communist bastard sons of bitch!
10WiseVirgins 2 months ago
Этих польских офицеров расстреляли немцы в 1941. Это те офицеры которые отсоединились от польской армии под Смоленском те посчитали что СССР каюк они взяли и дезертировали, другие поляки воевали всю войну для оснастки польской армии Сталин выделил 50 мил.руб. и еще когда Германию делили в 1945 СССР выделила часть земель Германии Польше. Полякам памятник бы поставить Сталину. Не все поляки суки как и нас. Долб*ов хватает.
rsfgjh77 2 months ago
@rsfgjh77 Немцы ещё расстреляли советских заключённых до прихода немцев.
Сосите хуй совки, скоро сами подохните - без войны.
anonovich 2 months ago
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@anonovich Немцы ещё расстреляли советских заключённых до прихода немцев.
Сосите хуй совки, скоро сами подохните - без войны. Только после вас.
rsfgjh77 2 months ago
Все хуйня, СССР сам напал на польшу
arhangel00010001 2 months ago
@arhangel00010001 У Вас что, с историей проблема?
MrLantau 1 month ago
патом поляки удивляются - а почему их считают идиотами)))
alexei854 3 months ago
поляки,пасть захлопните - смердит...
вы нам сначала скажите,где наши красноармейцы, взятые вами в плен в 1920?
далее, для того.чтобы осудить россию - где судебное заседание?
alexei854 3 months ago 6
@alexei854 1.Ponad 5000 żołnierzy RKKA osiedliło sie w Polsce, koło miasta Inowrocław, mniej zamieszkało pod Poznaniem. Rosyjskim chórem w Poznaniu kierował rosyjski generał. Wielu jeńców z 1920 uciekło na Litwę. Był wśród nich czekista Szczykunowicz, dziadek obecnego prezydenta Polski, Bronisława Szczykunowicza "Komorowskiego", wzięty do niewoli nad Niemnem. Poza tym na spalonej 5 latami wojny ziemiach polskich w 1918-1920 panował głód i epidemia tyfusu. Zmarło kilkaset tysięcy ludzi.
domarat11111 1 month ago
@alexei854 2.Masa żołnierzy Armii Czerwonej przekroczyło granicę Niemiec- i uciekło na zachód Europy. Wielu zołnierzy Bronsteina- "Trockiego" było na froncie od 1914 roku. W Polsce do dziś mamy obozowe karty zdrowia. Nie masz pojęcia w jakim stanie zdrowotnym były masy rosyjskich żołnierzy w 1920. Żydowskim komunistom nie zależało na zdrowiu i życiu Rosjan. W ich interesie było, by zginęło ich jak najwięcej. Żydzi mordowali też Polaków w Katyniu. Słowianie mają tylko 2 wrogów: Żydów i Niemców.
domarat11111 1 month ago
@domarat11111 я мало что понял, но общую суть уловил - опять жиды,славяне рабы и прочее...я прав?
так вот вас,поляков, Черчилль назвал гиенами...что думал о вас Сталин не знаю - может как о идиотах(слова Пилсудского)...вы хоть почитайте, Как Пилсудский о вас говорил...
и ещё раз повторю - без открытого суда НИКТО И НИКОГО судить не может
alexei854 1 month ago
@alexei854 Я забыл русский язык:) Более 5000 солдат РККА поселился в Польше, недалеко от города Иновроцлав, меньше жили возле Познани. Многие военнопленные в 1920 году бежал в Литву, а чекиста Szczykunowicz, дед президента Польши, Брониславa Szczykunowicza "Комаровскobo", был взят в плен в сражении на Неман. Кроме того, в Польше в 1918-1920 голод и эпидемии сыпного тифа. Несколько сотен тысяч человек погибли.
domarat11111 1 month ago
@alexei854 2. Масса солдат Красной армии перешли границу Германии, и бежал на запад Европы. Многие из солдат Бронштейн, "Троцкий" был на фронте с 1914 года. В Польше сегодня есть документы из лагерей для военнопленных. Вы не представляете, в каком состоянии здоровья были массы русских войск в 1920 году. Еврейские коммунисты не зависят от здоровья и жизни россиян.. Евреи были также убиты поляков в Катыни- mы знаем их имена.Славяне имеют только два врага: евреи и немцы.
domarat11111 1 month ago
@alexei854 What happened to your 85,000 "Krasnoarmyeitsov" in 1920 in Poland I addressed one day ago. The first question you should ask yourself is: "What did they do on Polish soil in 1919 and 1920?". They wouldn't have been taken prison an/or died in Polish POW camps if they hadn't gone where nobody had invited them. In 1939 Stalin and Hitler partitioned Poland for the fourth time and Polish officers didn't invade the Soviet Union. Now, after 72 years, many Russians come to work in Poland.
optionrider12 1 month ago
@optionrider12 What Polish territory occupied Soviet Union? May be you'll be as brave, as you are here, to repeat in Grodno or in Lviv, that that is Poland?
tagaphon 1 month ago
@tagaphon Grodno and Vilnius are already within the Polish influence and Lvov, perhaps even Kiev, will join soon after Putin's dictatorship is dealt with. For now, millions of Ukrainians and Russians work in Poland taking jobs Poles don't want to touch. There are also Russian and Ukrainian mafias there as well as Russian mafias in Western Europe and North America. Russian mobsters are sponsored by Putin and after he's gone they will have to restructure. Katsaps should be proud of this anyway.
optionrider12 1 month ago
potom udivlyaetes, za chto vas vse tak nenavidyat. Da za vasze vran'e ,podlost' i gnusnuyu propagandu. Nikakih deneg Polsha ne prosit , hotyat tol'ko uslyshat' pravdy, hotyat znat gde pohoroneny ich rodnye . Vyrodki i merzavcy . Brawo Dmowski, brawo Piłsudskij ! Bog,Honor, Ojczyzna.
lalek5 3 months ago
@lalek5 Разуй глаза и уши. Или ещё мозги нужно приобрести?
Wovans1 2 months ago
hnusna propaganda z moskvy
gracalokada 3 months ago
***Автор-иностранец,объективно который мог бы раскрыть эту тему?-я думаю,Стефан Цвейг.Польский стоит выучить потому что на нём в юности говорил Рокоссовский.но те в Польше,кто против СССР,Сталина--всё равно им История откажет в почестях и подлинной славе.****
alois294 3 months ago
@alois294 Dzierżynski was Pole too, and Mienżynski, Unszlicht &co. Its our history
staliniec55 2 months ago
я никогда не умел подбирать слова - не люблю создавать путаницы
alexei854 3 months ago
****Монета польская(одна)--есть в спичечной коробке...Их государство я всегда особо не любил.Сердца их--чёрствые и злые,хуже пробки...--Монету я нашёл давно.--Апрель в Москве тогда уж,помню,был.*******
alois294 3 months ago
so, you think that soviet version was propaganda but Gebbels version was truth?this film shows how Gebbels used Katin...try to analyse facts from that film....
and one question - do you believe everything, that you government told you?
alexei854 3 months ago
и ладно бы аргументировано ругали, а то ведь одно и тоже "лживый сталинист" и всё...ведь заметьте,Мухин не просто называет кого то "идиотом, кретином,дебилом и тд", а приводит аргументы, почему он их там называет...если есть что то, где мухин ошибся - говорите, он будет только рад таким вопросам...а простой словесный понос пропускает мимо ушей
alexei854 3 months ago
@alexei854 вообщето называть людей дебилами не очень хорошо
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one more thing - if you don't like truth, so enjoy your stupidness...let your government fuck your brains
alexei854 3 months ago
больше всех Мухина ругают те, кто по уровню интеллекта недалеко ушёл от обезьяны)))всё таки дарвин был прав, лишний раз убеждаюсь в этом после прочтения некоторых комментов
alexei854 3 months ago
спасибо создателям фильма!отдельное спасибо Юрию Мухину за то,что он не боится в открытую выражать свои взгляды...
alexei854 3 months ago
разве Мухин что то берёт из головы?но один совет - лучше почитать книгу, так как там есть источники для особо привередливых...вопрос следователям - почему мы должны верить вам и не должны верить Мухину?
alexei854 3 months ago
And one more thing(special for foreigners) - if you don't like truth so don't watch or comment such complicated films...watch your hollywood films and enjoy your stupidness...
alexei854 3 months ago
@alexei854 Truth? The soviet propaganda, which insults viewer's intelligence. It is unfortunate that so much today's young Russians are choosing to remain blind to their own country recent past. It only shows how good was the soviet brainwashing and how long it will take for Russians to recover from the soviet slavery, which so many prefer to cover with a false pride.
If you think about insulting me for writing the truth, go ahead... just yapping of street dogs.
RafalsCom 3 months ago
я бы может и поверил,что НКВД расстреляло польских офицериков(было за что), НО...я насчитал 3 разных расследования (немецкое, польское,ГВП)...ссылаются на документы,названия в которых совпадают, но текст почему то разный...почему у антисоветов свидели умирают,документы теряются и остаются "заверенные копии", а у советов свидетели живут и документы в оригинале?вопрос к следователям и их подпевалам
alexei854 3 months ago
я сначала читал книгу - источники там указаны...
одно дело,когда эти документы подлинны, а документы по катыни,якобы обнаруженные, фальшивка....
кстати, хохма есть - я читал документы по катыни и большая часть часть документов - о том, как же плохо кормили поляков и как же неудобно им на нарах было(рацион и чертёжи были предоставлены)...
Юрий Мухин, большое вам спасибо за фильм и за книгу...ругают ваши произведения только те,кому не нужна эта правда...
alexei854 3 months ago
От гониво!!! Да есть документы от которых отвертется не получается.
Автор просто УРОД МОРАЛЬНЫЙ. Причём тут какието фильмы если есть документы. Вот такие уроды и провоцируют расизм и национализм. Есть хроника съёмки с захоронений немцами сделаные при эксгумации.
Уродский фильм ни на чём не основан. НИОДНОГО ДОКУМЕНТА. БАЛАБОЛЬСТВО СПЛОШНОЕ. ОТСТОЙ.
PhotoBoss09 4 months ago
Tochnee esli tov.I.V.Stalin otpizdil polskix ofizerov,to sovershenno spravedlivo.
Kto zaxochet imet y sebay v tyly takoe tryslivoe,gnysnoe dermo.
TheDemerdgi 4 months ago
Daze ne ydivitelno --Polsha i polayki vsegda byli prostitytkami.Nasrat ,a potom svalit na kogo to.
TheDemerdgi 4 months ago
wtf it is fucking lies and ewerybody who believes in this is idiot
27inese 4 months ago
@27inese You don,t like facts.shure much easy to water Soviet Russia with shit.
Author on 100% right you want this or not.
And by the way nobody wants on own territory anemiys.
TheDemerdgi 4 months ago
Sovetskaya propaganda. Gnusnaya nepravda.