the purpose of the analogy that Paul gives here is to demonstrate the difference in the heart of a true believer and one who only shows lip service to the gospel. any effort to draw other qualities from this analogy is to fail to understand the purpose of analogy-to convey a specific point intended to be well illustrated by it. to over-emphasis every point in any analogy or parable and to make it say what it was not intended to address, is to fall into error, and to miss the point of it.
Reading the comments--so JermarParker assumes we can hate God, abuse grace, & still get a passing grade? I mean, he's hated human teachers & THEY gave him A's.
Sorry Jer, the Holy Lamb of God isn't some balding ex-coach who doles out matching quizes because he's too LAZY TO CARE if you really grasp the material.
In the parable, the A was given at the TEACHER's discretion. No one stole an "A" by sitting near the smart kids so they could micmic their answers. No was allowed to CHEAT.
both physics and math majors were saved. why? because they accepted the gracious gift. and if they didn't earn the A, the why would he have to act upon keeping the A up? the math majors would be lost if they rejected the A.
God sets you free to find joy in serving Jesus Christ. He doesnt force you to obey Him. But if you're want to search for joy in sin (you'll never find it) then thats their business but you cant condemn someone based upon how they act.
The A in washer's parable represents Jesus. the announcement of the A represents the gospel of Jesus Christ. the professor represents God and the the Physics majors represents the disciples and the math major represent the typical born-again believer.
the gracious gift requires no payment. but it must recieved through faith.
washer said that everybody accepted the A. although the math majors threw the books away, they still accepted the A(Jesus) and they believed what the prof. said
so a student has to love their teacher to eceive an A?
i received plenty of As from teachers I hated.
they profess to have faith in Christ, not love Christ
I love Jesus because He first loved me.
so what if the carnal christian abuses the free gift, he/she is still going to heaven and he/she is still a child of God. some kids hate their parents, but that doesn't mean that person is no longer a parent to that kid. God is as a loving Father. and good shepherds lovevtheir sheep
God is not a fallible parent who can't keep His children under Himself.
If a father lets his daughter run out at night with boys and have her do anything her flesh wants to, he would be a irresponsible father for not watching over her daughter.
My friend, God is NOT an irresponsible father. He knows all His children, and all His children though they may stumble, are walking with Him.
If you run and sin like the devil with no guilt, it only gives EVIDENCE that God is NOT your father. GB
so if i make my mom mad, then thats the evidence that that woman is not my mother
good parents chasten and discipline their children
same with God. so let the carnal christian sin likethe devil. be not deceived, God is not mocked. He will recompense. whom GOD LOVES, he will chasteneth. they might not love God, but GOD LOVES THEM.
and besides the punishment of sin comes from sin itself. (i.e. drinking-alcoholism, smoking-lung cancer, fornication-STDs)
Good parents do chasten and discipline their children, as God does. God will NOT let His people run without repentance.
Is a child disciplined under his father if he has sex all he wants against his will, steals his dad's money, and lives immorally? There's no discpline. God disciples, His children repents, though they stumble.
My friend, if you have something burdening you like a sin, don't be against what I say in an attempt to justify it, let us talk....
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
I don't quite get why god had to sacrifice himself to himself in the first place. Do you believe there is something special in human sacrifice?
The smell of blood was apparently "pleasing to god" but I don't know what sediment that was in, I suppose their both right anyway.
Also in the vid the person holding you guilty (I assume is the teacher) puts on a nice front, but if your describe the other side to the front that's almost deceiving (devil like).
Let use common sense here. If someone put a microchip in your brain and recorded everything you done your whole life and every idle word and everything you thought , And invited all your family over .And played the recording . Could you sit there and not be embarrassed and ashamed . Well my friend that is what the holy God of the universe sees. Like in the civil court if you stolen something or lied they would be a price to pay either jail or a fine. God payment is your soul in hell or JESUS
I believe no one has addressed your question, may I? You asked for the reason why God sacrificed Himself; He did it so that His beloved bride, His betrothed, the church (people who worship Him because they are more thankful than human language can describe) can finally get eternal joy, peace, love... HIMSELF. God is love, and when he loves someone, or gives them peace or joy, He is giving Himself to them. So give me Jesus!
I'll write you an email since I could not fully answer your question
jesus said even hating a man is the same as murder. so it's not an issue of simply giving into your sinful lusts, but even having them. your mind must be transformed by the Spirit of God before you can believe. if you're not His, He won't call you. but He is not willing any should perish, but all should come to repentance. in God's eye's you're no better than hitler. but He still loved you enough to die for you; as ungodly as you are.
I'm not exactly sure if I can find it, I do have however another sermon you might be interested. It is as well by Paul Washer, preaching to about 700 youth, I will post the full video if you or anyone else is interested.
I saw someone in my news feed that liked this... so I unsubscribed to them.
stiny736 1 month ago
@JesusPaid4You I like math more than physics, haha.
SalvationEternity777 1 year ago
the purpose of the analogy that Paul gives here is to demonstrate the difference in the heart of a true believer and one who only shows lip service to the gospel. any effort to draw other qualities from this analogy is to fail to understand the purpose of analogy-to convey a specific point intended to be well illustrated by it. to over-emphasis every point in any analogy or parable and to make it say what it was not intended to address, is to fall into error, and to miss the point of it.
HermitintheRain 1 year ago
Good call :)
SalvationEternity777 1 year ago
Reading the comments--so JermarParker assumes we can hate God, abuse grace, & still get a passing grade? I mean, he's hated human teachers & THEY gave him A's.
Sorry Jer, the Holy Lamb of God isn't some balding ex-coach who doles out matching quizes because he's too LAZY TO CARE if you really grasp the material.
In the parable, the A was given at the TEACHER's discretion. No one stole an "A" by sitting near the smart kids so they could micmic their answers. No was allowed to CHEAT.
fruitofspirit 2 years ago
both physics and math majors were saved. why? because they accepted the gracious gift. and if they didn't earn the A, the why would he have to act upon keeping the A up? the math majors would be lost if they rejected the A.
God sets you free to find joy in serving Jesus Christ. He doesnt force you to obey Him. But if you're want to search for joy in sin (you'll never find it) then thats their business but you cant condemn someone based upon how they act.
JermarParker 2 years ago
Even though they love sin, love the world, and have not been completely changed,
Have they still been considered to have accepted Christ? Or accepted the gracious gift?
SalvationEternity777 2 years ago
The A in washer's parable represents Jesus. the announcement of the A represents the gospel of Jesus Christ. the professor represents God and the the Physics majors represents the disciples and the math major represent the typical born-again believer.
the gracious gift requires no payment. but it must recieved through faith.
washer said that everybody accepted the A. although the math majors threw the books away, they still accepted the A(Jesus) and they believed what the prof. said
JermarParker 2 years ago
If you watch the entire video here, the math major actually represents the lost carnal church member that professes Christ.
The math major says he loves God, but he loves sin, relishes it, and loves the world.
"If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth."
(1John 1:6)
If you walk in the darkness, it PROVES you are not in Him.
Everybody said that they accepted A, but they did not prove it.
So how do we prove it?
God bless!
SalvationEternity777 2 years ago
so a student has to love their teacher to eceive an A?
i received plenty of As from teachers I hated.
they profess to have faith in Christ, not love Christ
I love Jesus because He first loved me.
so what if the carnal christian abuses the free gift, he/she is still going to heaven and he/she is still a child of God. some kids hate their parents, but that doesn't mean that person is no longer a parent to that kid. God is as a loving Father. and good shepherds lovevtheir sheep
JermarParker 2 years ago
God is not a fallible parent who can't keep His children under Himself.
If a father lets his daughter run out at night with boys and have her do anything her flesh wants to, he would be a irresponsible father for not watching over her daughter.
My friend, God is NOT an irresponsible father. He knows all His children, and all His children though they may stumble, are walking with Him.
If you run and sin like the devil with no guilt, it only gives EVIDENCE that God is NOT your father. GB
SalvationEternity777 2 years ago
God will discipline his children
so if i make my mom mad, then thats the evidence that that woman is not my mother
good parents chasten and discipline their children
same with God. so let the carnal christian sin likethe devil. be not deceived, God is not mocked. He will recompense. whom GOD LOVES, he will chasteneth. they might not love God, but GOD LOVES THEM.
and besides the punishment of sin comes from sin itself. (i.e. drinking-alcoholism, smoking-lung cancer, fornication-STDs)
JermarParker 2 years ago
God's people can sin, they stumble.
Good parents do chasten and discipline their children, as God does. God will NOT let His people run without repentance.
Is a child disciplined under his father if he has sex all he wants against his will, steals his dad's money, and lives immorally? There's no discpline. God disciples, His children repents, though they stumble.
My friend, if you have something burdening you like a sin, don't be against what I say in an attempt to justify it, let us talk....
SalvationEternity777 2 years ago
@JermarParker Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
BethelShual 4 months ago
@JermarParker 1 John 3:4-7
Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
BethelShual 4 months ago
@JermarParker 1 John 3:8-10
the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
BethelShual 4 months ago
Well you can't force people to like something, nor obey it.
It's worse because those people's have reasons to not want to obey too.
Them math majors wanted to go off and do math, you shouldn't try to keep them from that with guilt.
Nashy119 3 years ago
No ones forcing anyone against their own choosing will.
Just know that breaking the law demands justice, and without Christ as your defence, you will stand guilty 100%.
SalvationEternity777 3 years ago
Guilt of what to whom and why?
I don't quite get why god had to sacrifice himself to himself in the first place. Do you believe there is something special in human sacrifice?
The smell of blood was apparently "pleasing to god" but I don't know what sediment that was in, I suppose their both right anyway.
Also in the vid the person holding you guilty (I assume is the teacher) puts on a nice front, but if your describe the other side to the front that's almost deceiving (devil like).
Nashy119 3 years ago
Might I ask you to study theology as oppose to assume it?
SalvationEternity777 3 years ago
Apart from the questions please challenge what I have said above.
Because although I don't believe in god I am still able to read the bible and acknowledge what it says.
I can't find anything that disproves it without at the same time being hypocritical so unless you put some forwards I will have to say it's right.
Nothing in the conscious world is a proven fact I just too picky about it.
Nashy119 3 years ago
is there a sermon jam for this?
insaner169 2 years ago
Not sure, but here's the full sermon of it:
tinyurl(.)com/m4247q
SalvationEternity777 2 years ago
Pagan human sacrifices is not the obvious concept of the atonement of sin.
Again, like I said, PLEASE look into theology if you do not know what you are talking about.
SalvationEternity777 3 years ago
Sorry I was talking about the bible not one of the Eastern, Native American religions or mythologies.
You said "without Christ" so I thought the religion was obvious.
Nashy119 3 years ago
Let use common sense here. If someone put a microchip in your brain and recorded everything you done your whole life and every idle word and everything you thought , And invited all your family over .And played the recording . Could you sit there and not be embarrassed and ashamed . Well my friend that is what the holy God of the universe sees. Like in the civil court if you stolen something or lied they would be a price to pay either jail or a fine. God payment is your soul in hell or JESUS
NJCHRISTIANMALE777 2 years ago
Thinking about something is not punishable, and even if it was accessible to someone other than me, it still shouldn't be punishable.
You've merged the line between thinking and doing.
Nashy119 2 years ago
I believe no one has addressed your question, may I? You asked for the reason why God sacrificed Himself; He did it so that His beloved bride, His betrothed, the church (people who worship Him because they are more thankful than human language can describe) can finally get eternal joy, peace, love... HIMSELF. God is love, and when he loves someone, or gives them peace or joy, He is giving Himself to them. So give me Jesus!
I'll write you an email since I could not fully answer your question
BiblosLXX 2 years ago
jesus said even hating a man is the same as murder. so it's not an issue of simply giving into your sinful lusts, but even having them. your mind must be transformed by the Spirit of God before you can believe. if you're not His, He won't call you. but He is not willing any should perish, but all should come to repentance. in God's eye's you're no better than hitler. but He still loved you enough to die for you; as ungodly as you are.
dailysuicide 2 years ago
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lets pray more each day to our Lord and Savior Jesus, praise and worship him more! this is key, and no matter what its important!
friendofyours123 2 years ago
nicevid 5 ******'s
henry142003 3 years ago
I'm not exactly sure if I can find it, I do have however another sermon you might be interested. It is as well by Paul Washer, preaching to about 700 youth, I will post the full video if you or anyone else is interested.
SalvationEternity777 3 years ago
Anything would be great if your able to find anything, I appreciate it.
standup4TRUTH111 3 years ago
it's a true gratitude
EZEKIEL3622 3 years ago
I will try to find and post it.
SalvationEternity777 3 years ago
Do you know how to get the rest of this sermon?
standup4TRUTH111 3 years ago
What a fantastic illustration. Thanks for sharing it.
292live 3 years ago