Farming Self sufficiency = drought success

[kakudmi]

Stop eating meat, killing innocent animals and use all that land for feeding humans.

How can you not see the impractical habit of violent eating????

[billytheimpaler]

Animals are neither guilty nor innocent; they're just beasts. God put them here for our food. Humans are omnivores, which includes meat. And if one owns the land, then it's his to decide what to do with it.

[kakudmi]

That's your opinion. If God put them for that reason, why do they have families and feelings, attachments to their own specie members, just like we do? What kind of diving plan is that?

Plants do not show an obvious sign of emotions and attachments and do not protest, squeek, cry in agony and run in fear of death when we're hungry for their bodies. Isn't that a more obvious plan of God for our meal? Or are you too attached to that taste and would use any excuse for butchering them?

[billytheimpaler]

They don't have families any more than an ear of corn has a family, and very few animals show attachment, like geese or penguins or dogs. But even if they do, the difference is that THEY'RE FOOD. The Bible says we have dominion over them, so that settles it. And many plant lovers say plants DO show fear if you hold a knife up to them. They just can't show it.

[kakudmi]

Nazis didn't think much of jews in WWII when they were taking them to their slaughterhouses. They didin't really see their fears and agony, not much detections was going on simply because it was in their national books they were studying at that time. In the Genesis God never mentions eating animals, just dominion. But God clearly prescribes plants and seeds and fruits. Meat eating was introduced later, when jews complained about their diet. God was never happy with meat eating. READ the bibile.

[billytheimpaler]

You can't expect to be taken seriously if you compare humans eating meat to Nazis killing Jews. And man ate meat as early as Genesis.

[kakudmi]

And you know all this by reading ancient stories? Please. You ignore the nature, that's the human trait, and humans are capable of inflicting worse kind of deaths and pain onto each other, so nature balances itself this way. We slay animals and then more powerful humans come and slay us. Look at the world around us, just killing and wars. I know you'll never make that connection because you don't want to try living witout violence. I wish you all the best, but I don't expect, knowing the law.

[kakudmi]

Think about how much grains and water, energy and space is required to keep animals just for eating them? It is not economically logical to grow and waste so much food and water on small amout of animal meat that is the primary cause of most modern diseases including cancer and obesity. What kind of divine plan God had in mind when prescribing meat diet to humans? Vegetarians are proven to have much more healty and safer life, so much less prone to cancer and many other diseases. That's God.

[billytheimpaler]

Irrelevant. If I own the water, energy, and space, they're mine to do with as I please. And being that humans are meat eaters makes expending those resources to obtain it logical. Any differences in disease rates can be explained by the WAY we raise and slaughter animals, not just that we do so.

[kakudmi]

Another thing: people who are able to slay animals who are defendless against such unnatural death, are much more prone to killing higher species as well. Human beings needs only a good practice in killing, slaying, taking life when life is resisting, which can be applied anywhere, anytime to any life form. Cruelty towards animals are not measurable by their violent deaths, but also the emotional suffering they are going through when their family member are being brutally taken away and slayed.

[billytheimpaler]

Beasts have no emotions. They may experience fear at what is being done to them, which is why it should be done quickly and humanely, but they experience no emotional suffering that their "children" are being slaughtered. They don't even realize it's happening. Don't be ridiculous.

[kakudmi]

And you will have to experience that for yourself to be able to say such things with so much assurance. Arrogance in the presence of ignorace is a sword around your neck. You DON"T know how they feel. You only know how YOU feel, no one else, let alone another specie. What you think they feel or not is simply your limited observation biased with your desire to eat their flesh without any need for that. Who told you humans are meat eaters? Look for the comparison table on the net and then speak.

[billytheimpaler]

Men are MEN and beasts are BEASTS. We know what emotions they are capable of, which is darn few. They're BEASTS, put here for OUR USE.

[kakudmi]

Lion is a beast, panthera is a beast, snake is a beast, untamable, unusable, best in nature, left alone. Cows, goats, horses are very useful and tamable, becoming partners in human maintenance, and in return they just need to be protected from hunger or any other harms. We can use them for our interest, but we must satisfy theirs as well. Otherwise, it is called exploitation. Think. They have their natural lives, and don't need us to survive, hence, we shouldn't kill them. They are independant.

[kakudmi]

In my views, which is the only thing I can represent here, every action brings about equal, EQUAL, and opposite reaction. Think about that. If you're not forced to commint such violent act of taking another life that's clearly resisting it with all it's force, why should you do something so complicated and emotionally cruel? If your children would be starving, then of course, higher specie must prevail but otherwise it is a serious crime agains laws of nature. Just think what animals go through.

[billytheimpaler]

It's not contrary to nature; Just the reverse: it's completely natural. Animals eat other animals. Lions eat wildebeast and zebras. Fish eat worms, insects, and other fish. Snakes eat rodents, insects, and other snakes. And humans eat lower animals such as cows, pigs, goats, chickens, etc. That's natural. The difference is that we have the capacity to want to do it humanely.

[kakudmi]

No connection whatsoever. There are plenty of animals that eat nothing but plants, including elephants, zebras and millions of others. What connection are you drawing here? Humans have a free will, unlike animals. That's what separates us. If YOU declare yourself as an animal, is the only way I can agree with your animal slaughter. But then take no offense if those who consider themselves humans treat YOU as an animal. There IS a big difference between us, but you chose to ignore. That's human.

[brickloomis]

yeah what was the names you need to put subtitles on this video

[uneekflower]

What did he say the names of the plants were that he is growing to feed the cows?