I missed my copy of Melee, so I got used to and loved Brawl. Now I can go back to my Melee days. Played a round, and I forgot at how fast Melee was! lol I gotta retrain myself, since I have been away from Melee for so long.
Well, I cannot wait for this project to be completed. For now, my friend and I will be enjoying the demo. Keep up the good work!
@poolduckypoolducky That would make sense because we would just use melee to fuck around and do the gravity glitch and the single player. I never got to a super competitive state with melee, Brawl is really where I started to actually get better at Super Smash Bros. I did notice that combos and keeping someone with you and not letting them escape was more well defined in melee but I never got to explore that part of the game or really noticed it.
I know there's lots of love for Melee here but in defense of Brawl, it's a lot easier to hack, has better graphics, and makes a more aerodynamic frisbee.
This Project Melee is definitely gonna be something I'm gonna get. When Brawl came out, I was so disappointed. It's nice that they are making the Brawl characters also play like in Melee. I can't wait to get back to wavedashing, chain grabs and air combos with the new characters.
Yes, I am one of those who have wasted my time and energy at tournaments (only winning one, but besides the point :P) Melee was the best GC game, by a long shot and brawl brings it to shame. Me and my friends use the phrase, "brawled," as to something that has been ruined that was once great or perfection. Brawl was a spit in the face to Melee lovers
To all of those fools who suggest that brawl was a better game because of its mechanics are complete idiots. Its like saying Food is not delicious, and it all tastes the same. Melee was more than smashing buttons, it was a quick pace of timing, a well-played symphony of button-pushing where timing was key and one slip could cause the other opponet to play his own devastating melody. Have you ever wave-dashed, or even felt the power of the "wave-shine" by Fox, have you?
If I would give my 2 cents on this matter I think that BRawl is underrated. I too was disappointed with Brawl in the beginning, wondering why they took out all the "skill". But where there used to be a button pushing race there now was a lot more emphasis on (continuously) correct spacing and better decision making. Almost every character had those 10-hit-combos in Melee, and as soon as you got the opponent in the air you just... did your thing, and took a stock.
In Brawl though I feel like almost every hit needs the planning, the spacing, the punishing. Damage isn't given out in pre-scripted avalanches anymore..
Also @zybermen If you used to press those L buttons with your thumbs I can understand that they're hurt ^__^
that's a very close minded point of view with some lack in experience with melee and the brawl...you say everyone ahs 10-hit combos and easily take a stock? Show me some evidence, i can easily show you something similar but with brawl with it's grab releases, 0-death chain grabs and chain grabs in general with a good portion of the cast even rendering some character match ups pointless. All that about decision making and spacing was in melee too and at a harder faster pace.
@TylersJack09 Melee had all the same concepts of spacing and correct tactics that Brawl has, it just that Melee's speed made it extra nessesary for those concepts to become second nature. On a side note for the most part, Melee having "true" comboes is a half-truth: most chaingrabs and air comboes can be escaped if you DIed in a way that the opponent didn't guess; often Melee comboes are oki.
techskill = tourneyskill, according to Melee bads. IMHO, I feel like Brawl takes way more brains to play than Melee, that is if you are fighting against an equally skilled opponent. Melee is all about being flashy...... and getting punished for it, rofl. Don't get me wrong, Brawl is still incredibly horrible.
Any Melee "pro" would get destroyed at a real fighting game that actually takes skill and execution. Like ST or Marvel 2 for example.
@Orlhajoetoe Melee is mostly about opening someone up using mobility, and when you get on someone, keeping the pressure. It's a much more aggressive game than Brawl because one hit can blow the opponent up. It's almost like ST in that way, since both games punish you HARD for getting knocked down.
It's not just about being flashy. I'm not a huge fan of Melee's gameplay (My thumbs still hurt from pressing that damn L button all the time), but it certainly took as much brains to play as Brawl.
@Orlhajoetoe Sorry, post got too long. Execution for Melee wasn't that low, IMO; I wouldn't say it was anywhere near ST or 3rd Strike level execution, but it certainly takes more technical skill than many other fighters (Blazblue, MvC3) I've played. A lot of that was due to the ass gamecube controller, of course.
But technical skill is just one part of what makes a game good. Melee was good for many people for the same reason that I love 3rd Strike/MvC3 and you love ST and Marvel 2: It's fun.
To be honest, I think the perfect SSB game would be one with actual 2-D mechanics. If Nintendo went right a head and made an actual 2-D fighting game with actual 2-D fighting mechanics I would never put that game down.
@ggxxslash youre crazy man, the ssb system IS the game, otherwise it would just be a run of the mill fighter, but this time with incoherent storyline and bland movesets. super smash brothers is unique and that's why everybody loves it
i have a question will you be making all characters at least near the level of fox and falco and making meta knight less cheap? haven't been able to play yet but hoping to and the work you've done looks amazing :)
I downloaded the demo yesterday, and I have to say that it is AMAZING. I honestly like it more than Melee. You guys did a good job on adding in and taking out things that were needed/unneeded. Sonic's Moonwalk is RAPEEEEE.
Hehe, love how most of the comments I see now are by Brawl fans. I like Melee more than Brawl, but I still like Brawl. Project M got rid of most of Melee's flaws: the occasional clunky feel, the outdated graphics, etc. and kept the best of Melee (techskills, combos, etc.), as well as some of Brawl's better attributes.
Both Brawl and Melee are good in their own respect, but in all honesty, f*** Melee AND f*** Brawl, I have Project M!
Brawl is not bad. Why do people hate on it? Sure, it doesn't have the feel of Melee, but it added so many nice features. I see this as combining the best parts from both games.
ehh I think the Smash Series just keeps getting better and this is just a step backwards... but ohh well i hope for the best with this, it still seems like a pretty cool idea.
@syrindigo26 I disagree with you. Nintendo are the ones who took a step backwards when they created Brawl. They made a game that was fun and had good stages plus characters along with a few extra features, but they took out the mechanics in the game that really made it competative. If you take a look at Brawl what mechanics are there that no basic player could perform? What camping and metaknight tornado?
If I'm going to be honest I really didn't like melee and I have never really been one to play fighting games competitively which is why I liked brawl so much more than melee I know I'm most likely going to piss people off but to be honest I really don't care at this point I'm tired of this whole brawl vs melee thing and people saying melee is better and only thinking about how melee is better than brawl god you guys are like sonic fans
Isn't saying you like Brawl better and telling the people who are making this mod that they are "sonic fans" (which I take offense to, Sonic was my first video game) adding to the Brawl vs. Melee debate which you are so tired of?
The reason they're making this mod is not because they don't think Brawl is fun. They just think it can be more fun.
@MisterN617 Hmph. Ya learn something new every day, I guess.
Well, at least he's still on good terms with Nintendo. That's something, at least. It means if/when they make a new smash bros, his cooperation isn't entirely out of the question...... But I wonder why he'd leave over a game like Kirby's Air Ride? I mean, that game wasn't even very good.....XD
Okay uhm someone explain to me in as much detail as possible what exactly this is, and what changes it does to Brawl per se. As far as I've been able to find it makes Brawl more so like melee than either Brawl + or Brawl -, and initally I thought this was brawl minus, making the assumption the M in Project M referred to the wordl Minus, not the word Melee. Please and Thank you.
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brawl has more characters than melee, melee is just... more fun and fast paced and your now floating around waiting to land when your already fast falling...
i feel kinda left out >-> as a zelda mainer i always feel like she doesn't get enough credit for anything... i need some kinda of zelda footage of some sort before i even touch P:M what got me to play Brawl+/- was that i saw some nice stuff of zelda got me to try it out but this just looks like a tier fest video.... maybe i am just upset that some decent chars get gimped while others are abused...
It's been around since the N64 days, and with the success of the series so far, I doubt they'll let it die with Brawl.
It would be nice if they'd take lessons from Melee, Brawl, and all the hacked versions people have made, though.
No more graphic engine glitches used for techs, better speed, bring back hit-stun, buff up the low tiers so that tournaments have a wider variety of matches, and most of all, no more Meta-type characters.XD
@1AndrewTheWolf The only way I'll believe that is when Sakurai shows up on the official site with a quote stating that he didn't intend to make Brawl.XD
@1AndrewTheWolf The only way I'll believe that is when Sakurai shows up on the official site with a quote stating that he didn't intend to make Brawl.XD
So, if they go and make a new Smash for the next console, I'm calling "I told you so" rights, right here.XD
Question, the grapple beam of Samus will work as it worked in Melee or as it worked in Brawl? I mean that when you use it the grapple will go automatically to the edge of the scenario or it will grap wherever it touches
Fucking badass. I've been playing Brawl+ for like a year & a half and it still doesn't have that melee goodness feel. Its helluva lot better than vanilla brawl, but Project M just looks fucking amazing. I literally have a boner right now. But that could be from the porn I'm also viewing at the moment.
Wow, this is just sad: SSB players seem to have a problem excepting the fact that Nintendo doesn't give two shits about the competitive community. Yall' should just give up on trying to Frankenstein SSBB and comeplay SSF4, BBCS, AH3, and KOF13 with the real niggas!
@Franchan10 not in the balancing phase yet. However that is the general Idea. Everyone won't have shines but for the most part every character will be capable of winning on a high level. Natural bad Match-up's will exist for everyone but the hope is to keep it within 60-40.We don't want to bring back 90-10 Match ups like Sheik vs Pichu lol.
Are you absolutely sure about this? Have you contacted nintendo? I think you may be misunderstanding fair use. Just because you won't be making a profit does not make it fair use. My semester of business law tells me that Nintendo could argue that this project dissolutes the SSB's franchise.
There have been groups that tried to remake Chrono Trigger and they got cease and desist letters from Square Enix shortly before the remakes' release dates.
@mcart567 It's legal. 1. nintendo would know about this by now considering the LARGE AMOUNTS of hacks around here. 2. go to Brawl Vault. They host over thousands of hacks and no one ever stopped them. Nothing can stop them because they are doing nothing wrong.
@superDEROB15 Not legal ^^ fair use or not it is clearly stated in each of the product that reverse engineering is prohibited but its not really a problem as nintendoo care more about hacks that actually take money from the company... wait until next smash bros wich will be under the level of quality of the future main hack of brawl nd, jealous, they will fight against it to sell new crap with air tripping, enforced items, and pacman with a one hit kill
smash64 and melee were similar in some ways and I didn't hear anyone saying WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS U CAN JUST PLAY 64 so look at it this way... super smash bros melee 2. but with more characters and some changes.
I like how some of the stages were modified to have wider edges to suit melee's fast fall speed. Stage modification was something Brawl+ didn't do quite right.
LOL The closest you could get to this in normal Brawl without hacking is going to special Brawl, and turning the gravity on high. It may allow for some combos on the ground at least, and recovery is a bit like melee.
If only Brawl could have real hitstun, and gameplay that was a bit faster.
@Shouxiao The funny thing is, Brawl does have hitstun however Sakurai allowed you to cancel it (the technique dubbed "momentum canceling"). Otherwise, if that was simply disabled, hitstun would equal that of Melee.
Hm. I wonder if there'll ever be a Project: 64... I love Brawl and Melee, but Smash 64 has my heart. When people ask me about myself, I show them that game. :P
@JRCamo Actually, LinkstheName from brawl vault is recreating 64...he did say he might ask some project m workers to crack the files from 64, but of course, after the project m is over.
Wow, I heard about this from a friend, but it looks a million times better than I imagined!! Brawl's great but Melee's physics and style are far superior!!
Looking fantastic, can't wait till this has it's debut!
Also it sounds to me like you guys are balancing the characters. I hope so, cause if there was any complaint I ever had about Melee, it had to be it's lack of balance! Aside from that it was a next to perfect game XD
Also are you making a Mewtwo PSA for Lucario on the side for this?
@Lahtios Physicswise, Melee is indeed the most balanced of Smash games. In terms of tiers and matchups? Not really. There's a looooot of reeeally reeeealy bad matchups in Melee even within tiers. 64 is hard to judge by matchups due to how broken every attack in the game is in general, while Brawl mainly suffers matchup imbalances between tiers (although most matchups IN a tier are reasonably close).
I like where this is going. There is no replacement for Melee, but for a quick fix, or for those that simply do not like Brawl or Melee, this should be Great!
@xZlicex Metaknight is currently mid tier or something like that. Heavy gravity plus not having the ability to auto-snap to the edges means Metaknight is just average. That and the fact that his tornado doesn't beat everything anymore.
Project Melee is our last hope for brawl fans and melee fans to get along...
dinoboy411 21 hours ago
can someone please tell me how to get the other characters on project m?
anccb 1 month ago
Whos that falco from 0;06
baldomero55 2 months ago
Anyone knows the intro song please?
AshuRawRun 2 months ago
I missed my copy of Melee, so I got used to and loved Brawl. Now I can go back to my Melee days. Played a round, and I forgot at how fast Melee was! lol I gotta retrain myself, since I have been away from Melee for so long.
Well, I cannot wait for this project to be completed. For now, my friend and I will be enjoying the demo. Keep up the good work!
DAK075 2 months ago
Project M will be great downloading the demo right now
Chobain1055 2 months ago
I dont understand, my first SSB was Melee and now i play Brawl. The only difference was the gravity, fighting is pretty much the same for me :/
Fwoggye 3 months ago
@Fwoggye the more competitive you played the game the more notable the differences are
poolduckypoolducky 3 months ago
@poolduckypoolducky That would make sense because we would just use melee to fuck around and do the gravity glitch and the single player. I never got to a super competitive state with melee, Brawl is really where I started to actually get better at Super Smash Bros. I did notice that combos and keeping someone with you and not letting them escape was more well defined in melee but I never got to explore that part of the game or really noticed it.
Fwoggye 3 months ago
when is this coming out?
weirdalyank2 3 months ago
@weirdalyank2 it is already released -.-
google it : "Project M download" lol
ClickOnYourSide 2 months ago
Heck yes they fixed Shiek!
I'm downloading this ASAP!
Eruptflail 4 months ago
Any idea when this thing is coming out?
Gnafar11 4 months ago
"Brawl Strayed so far away from a great game"
Problem , Shigeru ?
Elie4Elite 4 months ago
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Brawl was awesome, Melee was awesome, now Project M.
Cezz624 4 months ago
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Cezz624 4 months ago
I know there's lots of love for Melee here but in defense of Brawl, it's a lot easier to hack, has better graphics, and makes a more aerodynamic frisbee.
louman7777777 5 months ago
This Project Melee is definitely gonna be something I'm gonna get. When Brawl came out, I was so disappointed. It's nice that they are making the Brawl characters also play like in Melee. I can't wait to get back to wavedashing, chain grabs and air combos with the new characters.
MightyRedeemer 7 months ago
OMG! The LoZ level from SSB. That shall be my most played level
Taco77Vidz 7 months ago 2
CAN i use it on dolphin emulator?
l3g10nw 7 months ago
Maybe in a few years this could become a real game and be sold in Stores. Or maybe this year or next year =P.
PichuIsMyFavorite 7 months ago
Squeeee
Must hack wii now. This is a necessity!!!
sheitruis 7 months ago
I don't understand how this argument persists. Brawl lacks what made melee stand out.
15signup 7 months ago
Yes, I am one of those who have wasted my time and energy at tournaments (only winning one, but besides the point :P) Melee was the best GC game, by a long shot and brawl brings it to shame. Me and my friends use the phrase, "brawled," as to something that has been ruined that was once great or perfection. Brawl was a spit in the face to Melee lovers
Rakiex 8 months ago
To all of those fools who suggest that brawl was a better game because of its mechanics are complete idiots. Its like saying Food is not delicious, and it all tastes the same. Melee was more than smashing buttons, it was a quick pace of timing, a well-played symphony of button-pushing where timing was key and one slip could cause the other opponet to play his own devastating melody. Have you ever wave-dashed, or even felt the power of the "wave-shine" by Fox, have you?
Rakiex 8 months ago
this is like a dream come true
longtiger7 8 months ago
OMFG
longtiger7 8 months ago
First C.F. combo defines the word Epicness.
l3g10nw 8 months ago 7
If I would give my 2 cents on this matter I think that BRawl is underrated. I too was disappointed with Brawl in the beginning, wondering why they took out all the "skill". But where there used to be a button pushing race there now was a lot more emphasis on (continuously) correct spacing and better decision making. Almost every character had those 10-hit-combos in Melee, and as soon as you got the opponent in the air you just... did your thing, and took a stock.
TylersJack09 9 months ago
In Brawl though I feel like almost every hit needs the planning, the spacing, the punishing. Damage isn't given out in pre-scripted avalanches anymore..
Also @zybermen If you used to press those L buttons with your thumbs I can understand that they're hurt ^__^
TylersJack09 9 months ago
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TylersJack09 9 months ago
ehrm, my 2 posts somehow switched places, so read the long one first...
TylersJack09 9 months ago
@TylersJack09
that's a very close minded point of view with some lack in experience with melee and the brawl...you say everyone ahs 10-hit combos and easily take a stock? Show me some evidence, i can easily show you something similar but with brawl with it's grab releases, 0-death chain grabs and chain grabs in general with a good portion of the cast even rendering some character match ups pointless. All that about decision making and spacing was in melee too and at a harder faster pace.
juannunez3000 9 months ago
@TylersJack09 Melee had all the same concepts of spacing and correct tactics that Brawl has, it just that Melee's speed made it extra nessesary for those concepts to become second nature. On a side note for the most part, Melee having "true" comboes is a half-truth: most chaingrabs and air comboes can be escaped if you DIed in a way that the opponent didn't guess; often Melee comboes are oki.
0CoconutPilot0 9 months ago
techskill = tourneyskill, according to Melee bads. IMHO, I feel like Brawl takes way more brains to play than Melee, that is if you are fighting against an equally skilled opponent. Melee is all about being flashy...... and getting punished for it, rofl. Don't get me wrong, Brawl is still incredibly horrible.
Any Melee "pro" would get destroyed at a real fighting game that actually takes skill and execution. Like ST or Marvel 2 for example.
Orlhajoetoe 10 months ago
@Orlhajoetoe Melee is mostly about opening someone up using mobility, and when you get on someone, keeping the pressure. It's a much more aggressive game than Brawl because one hit can blow the opponent up. It's almost like ST in that way, since both games punish you HARD for getting knocked down.
It's not just about being flashy. I'm not a huge fan of Melee's gameplay (My thumbs still hurt from pressing that damn L button all the time), but it certainly took as much brains to play as Brawl.
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hibber25 7 months ago
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@zybermen why the hell would you use your thumb to press "L"? xD
hibber25 7 months ago
@zybermen Your press the l button with your thumbs?
fahrzeugmeister 6 months ago
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louman7777777 6 months ago
L with your thumbs?
7eld 6 months ago 5
@zybermen You used your THUMB TO PRESS L?
Definitely not a melee player. GTFO
TheGosu 2 months ago 16
This is true and this made me laugh LOL
Wwhat357 2 months ago
@zybermen How the hell do you press L with your thumb?!?!?!
jdterrell 1 month ago 3
@Orlhajoetoe Sorry, post got too long. Execution for Melee wasn't that low, IMO; I wouldn't say it was anywhere near ST or 3rd Strike level execution, but it certainly takes more technical skill than many other fighters (Blazblue, MvC3) I've played. A lot of that was due to the ass gamecube controller, of course.
But technical skill is just one part of what makes a game good. Melee was good for many people for the same reason that I love 3rd Strike/MvC3 and you love ST and Marvel 2: It's fun.
zybermen 10 months ago
I've never heard of fans of a series working to develop/hack a better game because the sequel was so crappy. Brawl is truly a failure.
commonyoshi 10 months ago
Imagine if Brawl was really like this?
Cezz624 10 months ago
Can't wait for update patch coming up soon :D
louman7777777 10 months ago
aaaaaweeeeeesooooomeeeee
nessfek 10 months ago
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So is it out yet?
ceberusbotcatcher 11 months ago
give me some shots, and some time and i will make u an better promo.
feratferatferat 11 months ago
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you say justin bieber i say stfu
you say brawl i say melee
you say copypaste I say stfu
JAMEISA000 11 months ago
you say justin bieber i say stfu
you say brawl i say melee
you say dacus i say shffl
tkxl777 11 months ago
@tkxl777 I agree with you, but what you say sounds terribly trite (and pretentious).
ceberusbotcatcher 11 months ago
im not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but i need massive and massive help.
im a 64er/meleer, not a brawler, and im very interested in project M.
I downloaded the demo, onto my sd card, i put the sd card in, i go to stage builder, nothing happens. just nothing.
HELP
dongsun24ify 11 months ago
for PAL?
supersmashdylan 11 months ago
FUCKING CORE GAMERS. Am i really the only one that prefers the original smash for its crazy physics and funness?
MrISAACFACE 11 months ago
Awesome, i want hard core
fuckerman157 1 year ago
How long is the Project M website going to be down?
DaAcester 1 year ago
Y don't ya just play the original SSBM?
ggxxslash 1 year ago
@ggxxslash its building on what made melee competitive. take the best of it, mix in a little fresh feeling, and its what brawl should have been
slimpyman 1 year ago
@ggxxslash Melee had the physics, Brawl had the extra features and mixing both would make a perfect smash game.
DaAcester 1 year ago
@DaAcester
To be honest, I think the perfect SSB game would be one with actual 2-D mechanics. If Nintendo went right a head and made an actual 2-D fighting game with actual 2-D fighting mechanics I would never put that game down.
ggxxslash 1 year ago
@ggxxslash youre crazy man, the ssb system IS the game, otherwise it would just be a run of the mill fighter, but this time with incoherent storyline and bland movesets. super smash brothers is unique and that's why everybody loves it
jmrut1992 1 year ago
i have a question will you be making all characters at least near the level of fox and falco and making meta knight less cheap? haven't been able to play yet but hoping to and the work you've done looks amazing :)
ahwlld 1 year ago
can some1 tell me who that cf and that falco at beggining of the video!!
baldomero55 1 year ago
I downloaded the demo yesterday, and I have to say that it is AMAZING. I honestly like it more than Melee. You guys did a good job on adding in and taking out things that were needed/unneeded. Sonic's Moonwalk is RAPEEEEE.
Shad0wNess 1 year ago
where can i get this cuz i didnt even know this existed and i loved melee
Jerkey321 1 year ago
@Jerkey321 i know lol same here
DaAcester 1 year ago
@Jerkey321
Go look up smashmods.
GCLU 1 year ago
As if the project itself wasn't good enough, the trailer makers get bonus points for half of them using swear words as their names.
warlyte 1 year ago
Hehe, love how most of the comments I see now are by Brawl fans. I like Melee more than Brawl, but I still like Brawl. Project M got rid of most of Melee's flaws: the occasional clunky feel, the outdated graphics, etc. and kept the best of Melee (techskills, combos, etc.), as well as some of Brawl's better attributes.
Both Brawl and Melee are good in their own respect, but in all honesty, f*** Melee AND f*** Brawl, I have Project M!
EpixAura 1 year ago
Brawl is not bad. Why do people hate on it? Sure, it doesn't have the feel of Melee, but it added so many nice features. I see this as combining the best parts from both games.
politcalgamer 1 year ago
ehh I think the Smash Series just keeps getting better and this is just a step backwards... but ohh well i hope for the best with this, it still seems like a pretty cool idea.
syrindigo26 1 year ago
@syrindigo26 I disagree with you. Nintendo are the ones who took a step backwards when they created Brawl. They made a game that was fun and had good stages plus characters along with a few extra features, but they took out the mechanics in the game that really made it competative. If you take a look at Brawl what mechanics are there that no basic player could perform? What camping and metaknight tornado?
Chrysmos 10 months ago
If I'm going to be honest I really didn't like melee and I have never really been one to play fighting games competitively which is why I liked brawl so much more than melee I know I'm most likely going to piss people off but to be honest I really don't care at this point I'm tired of this whole brawl vs melee thing and people saying melee is better and only thinking about how melee is better than brawl god you guys are like sonic fans
Bowserboy129 1 year ago
@Bowserboy129 If I may say something...
Isn't saying you like Brawl better and telling the people who are making this mod that they are "sonic fans" (which I take offense to, Sonic was my first video game) adding to the Brawl vs. Melee debate which you are so tired of?
The reason they're making this mod is not because they don't think Brawl is fun. They just think it can be more fun.
OmegaMuffin498 1 year ago
inb4 "hur hur melee is the best and brawl is gay" sitstorm
RabbidKuriboh 1 year ago
IT'S FINALLY FUCKING OUT
chaserthewolf 1 year ago
I really hope all the characters are more balanced than in Brawl and Melee. Balance is the most important thing the SSB-series is missing.
T4ka92 1 year ago
@T4ka92 Balanced is indeed a goal. We already have a decade of Melee results to look at, and have been balancing the game accordingly.
XxShadicxX 1 year ago
are you getting rid of the controversial trips/falls?
tacomang 1 year ago
@tacomang Yes.
XxShadicxX 1 year ago
i still find melee too buggy to be a good fighter game, brawl+ was going in the right direction but too bad it died.
freedomdst 1 year ago
@MisterN617 I had more fun with Star Wars Episode 1 Racer.
That's saying something.
XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@MisterN617 XD I think if I were forced to develop KAR, I'd have gone a bit bat-shit, too.XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@MisterN617 Hmph. Ya learn something new every day, I guess.
Well, at least he's still on good terms with Nintendo. That's something, at least. It means if/when they make a new smash bros, his cooperation isn't entirely out of the question...... But I wonder why he'd leave over a game like Kirby's Air Ride? I mean, that game wasn't even very good.....XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@MisterN617 Wait, what?
When did Sakurai leave Nintendo?
Source?
smashbrolink 1 year ago
Oh great the one thing melee did not have the ablilty to grab edges (easily) and jumping but look now.
lonewander3931 1 year ago
I miss the damage counters in Melee. The new one's are very distracting.
samuraispiritsx 1 year ago
Okay uhm someone explain to me in as much detail as possible what exactly this is, and what changes it does to Brawl per se. As far as I've been able to find it makes Brawl more so like melee than either Brawl + or Brawl -, and initally I thought this was brawl minus, making the assumption the M in Project M referred to the wordl Minus, not the word Melee. Please and Thank you.
P.S - It might be better if you just inbox me about this rather than leaving it as a comment response.
RisingSun2007 1 year ago
This fanboyism is why I lost all appreciation in SSBM.
Just remember, you are editing FROM a “horrible” game. Yet barely anybody IIRC were able to edit from the “godlike perfect” game. Just saying.
SuperSpriterOteki 1 year ago
To report ROM sites, emulators, Game Copiers, Counterfeit manufacturing, or other illegal activities, please call us at 1-800-255-3700 or e-mail us at piracyscene@noa.nintendo.com
Done.
anon439 1 year ago
@anon439 To bad this isn't piracy you stupid idiot.
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
Why would you use Fox's and Falco's old models?
JackOfSpades93 1 year ago
brawl has more characters than melee, melee is just... more fun and fast paced and your now floating around waiting to land when your already fast falling...
mtw9000 1 year ago
Holy moly, this might actually make me play brawl again. Wonder how I'd be able to mod my brawl to this when it comes out.
grad111okami 1 year ago
Brawl > Melee
mavrickindigo 1 year ago
@mavrickindigo Don't even start that.
chaserthewolf 1 year ago
i feel kinda left out >-> as a zelda mainer i always feel like she doesn't get enough credit for anything... i need some kinda of zelda footage of some sort before i even touch P:M what got me to play Brawl+/- was that i saw some nice stuff of zelda got me to try it out but this just looks like a tier fest video.... maybe i am just upset that some decent chars get gimped while others are abused...
VanishMantle 1 year ago
and THIS
...
is why tourneytards don't deserve brawl!
Muvlonion 1 year ago 4
@Muvlonion lol urfunny
smk2 1 year ago
Is this a hack or will this be on stores? :)
gamer89S 1 year ago
@gamer89S Hack. Obviously.
pein0akatsuki 1 year ago
@pein0akatsuki Oh.
gamer89S 1 year ago
@gamer89S *facepalm*
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf It was sarcasm...
gamer89S 1 year ago
@gamer89S Oh thank goodness.
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf Lol. :)
gamer89S 1 year ago
@gamer89S I would have facepalmed you otherwise.
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf I know you would.. (other related subject) When do you speculate that the next smash. bros game is coming to stores? 2013?, perhaps.
gamer89S 1 year ago
@gamer89S Never. this is smash's last run. Therefore we have hacking projects to make our own.
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf Oh...
gamer89S 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf Doubt that.
It's been around since the N64 days, and with the success of the series so far, I doubt they'll let it die with Brawl.
It would be nice if they'd take lessons from Melee, Brawl, and all the hacked versions people have made, though.
No more graphic engine glitches used for techs, better speed, bring back hit-stun, buff up the low tiers so that tournaments have a wider variety of matches, and most of all, no more Meta-type characters.XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@smashbrolink It was supposed to end at melee. Sakurai just decided to make the sequel
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf The only way I'll believe that is when Sakurai shows up on the official site with a quote stating that he didn't intend to make Brawl.XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf The only way I'll believe that is when Sakurai shows up on the official site with a quote stating that he didn't intend to make Brawl.XD
So, if they go and make a new Smash for the next console, I'm calling "I told you so" rights, right here.XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@1AndrewTheWolf Oh, and they should improve on the stage editor, too.
Seriously, if we can improve Brawl so many ways with hacks of our own and practically no budjet, what the hell stopped them?
Someone should buy the creators a clue.XD
smashbrolink 1 year ago
@gamer89S Hack,idiot :P
supermario5029 10 months ago
@supermario5029 Lol, I know it's a hack.. - _ -. That's why you see a "smiley face" in the end of my comment. idiot. :P
gamer89S 10 months ago
Lol so many people have P:M its not even funny, one leaking around AIB
Devandevande 1 year ago
@Devandevande It's old as fuck though so who cares.
smk2 1 year ago
@smk2 Just like my comment is old as fuck? Who cares right...?
Devandevande 1 year ago
total epicness!!
supersonic332 1 year ago
It's never coming out. T_T Well, eventually but it still feels like forever
caps1in1ya1ass1 1 year ago
@caps1in1ya1ass1 I've been waiting for too long. :c I'm just ready to play some Project M.
chaserthewolf 1 year ago
You just can't play a new game with a new gameplay, you have to modify the game to be equal to it's predecessor. You're a total loser
eduardowojcikiewicz 1 year ago
Question, the grapple beam of Samus will work as it worked in Melee or as it worked in Brawl? I mean that when you use it the grapple will go automatically to the edge of the scenario or it will grap wherever it touches
MagmaMx 1 year ago
I had a dream I played Project M and it was really rape.
SERIOUSLY
skidd16 1 year ago
Fucking badass. I've been playing Brawl+ for like a year & a half and it still doesn't have that melee goodness feel. Its helluva lot better than vanilla brawl, but Project M just looks fucking amazing. I literally have a boner right now. But that could be from the porn I'm also viewing at the moment.
handsock 1 year ago 22
@handsock rofl
taronmcgee 1 year ago
Wow, this is just sad: SSB players seem to have a problem excepting the fact that Nintendo doesn't give two shits about the competitive community. Yall' should just give up on trying to Frankenstein SSBB and comeplay SSF4, BBCS, AH3, and KOF13 with the real niggas!
ggxxslash 1 year ago
@ggxxslash It's accepting not excepting. The word you used is a term of exclusion.
cbui88 5 months ago
@cbui88 Cool story.
ggxxslash 5 months ago
This new game hack will get melee veterans unemployed, divorced and with no child custody.
krazyzyko 1 year ago
This game will most likely take replace Brawl+ and Brawl- side tournaments. This is a game that I'm willing to play
Jay0yeah 1 year ago
I hope this is balanced unlike melee...
That means everyone is gonna play at fox and falcos level O.o
Franchan10 1 year ago
@Franchan10 not in the balancing phase yet. However that is the general Idea. Everyone won't have shines but for the most part every character will be capable of winning on a high level. Natural bad Match-up's will exist for everyone but the hope is to keep it within 60-40.We don't want to bring back 90-10 Match ups like Sheik vs Pichu lol.
Tiajuan 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
is this even legal??? altering games made by nintendo and advertising it as something else???????
superDEROB15 1 year ago
@superDEROB15 Fair use. As long as we don't sell it, it's perfectly legal.
ProjectMelee 1 year ago 18
@ProjectMelee
Are you absolutely sure about this? Have you contacted nintendo? I think you may be misunderstanding fair use. Just because you won't be making a profit does not make it fair use. My semester of business law tells me that Nintendo could argue that this project dissolutes the SSB's franchise.
There have been groups that tried to remake Chrono Trigger and they got cease and desist letters from Square Enix shortly before the remakes' release dates.
mcart567 1 year ago
@mcart567 It's legal. 1. nintendo would know about this by now considering the LARGE AMOUNTS of hacks around here. 2. go to Brawl Vault. They host over thousands of hacks and no one ever stopped them. Nothing can stop them because they are doing nothing wrong.
1AndrewTheWolf 1 year ago
@superDEROB15 LMAO!!!!
XSilvenX 1 year ago
@superDEROB15 Adding tons of question marks just makes you look like a douche...
SSJCerious 1 year ago
@superDEROB15 who cares
Fade016 1 year ago
@superDEROB15 Not legal ^^ fair use or not it is clearly stated in each of the product that reverse engineering is prohibited but its not really a problem as nintendoo care more about hacks that actually take money from the company... wait until next smash bros wich will be under the level of quality of the future main hack of brawl nd, jealous, they will fight against it to sell new crap with air tripping, enforced items, and pacman with a one hit kill
:)
marioeliemario 1 year ago
Okayyy, I'll admit it.
You did good, Fox.
nifanatic 1 year ago
smash64 and melee were similar in some ways and I didn't hear anyone saying WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS U CAN JUST PLAY 64 so look at it this way... super smash bros melee 2. but with more characters and some changes.
iLazyMofo 1 year ago
brawl + suks balls, but this looks amazing
animefreak17657 1 year ago
I like how some of the stages were modified to have wider edges to suit melee's fast fall speed. Stage modification was something Brawl+ didn't do quite right.
VangY34311 1 year ago
@VangY34311 or at least i hope Project M does this as well: taking stages into consideration of balancing, and add strategical values.
VangY34311 1 year ago
Man, I need to start following this on the Smash Boards again.
You guys did fix that weird as hell Nair animation for Kirby, right? I forget.
vaporchu 1 year ago
@vaporchu Not quite yet, been busy with other things of importance.
smk2 1 year ago
LOL The closest you could get to this in normal Brawl without hacking is going to special Brawl, and turning the gravity on high. It may allow for some combos on the ground at least, and recovery is a bit like melee.
If only Brawl could have real hitstun, and gameplay that was a bit faster.
Shouxiao 1 year ago
@Shouxiao The funny thing is, Brawl does have hitstun however Sakurai allowed you to cancel it (the technique dubbed "momentum canceling"). Otherwise, if that was simply disabled, hitstun would equal that of Melee.
smk2 1 year ago
what song is that?!
GamesRadarFan 1 year ago
@GamesRadarFan The Song title is now In the description
ProjectMelee 1 year ago
Hm. I wonder if there'll ever be a Project: 64... I love Brawl and Melee, but Smash 64 has my heart. When people ask me about myself, I show them that game. :P
JRCamo 1 year ago 13
@JRCamo smash 64 sound effects ftw @iLazyMofo and better graphics+replay feature
beastmodecat 1 year ago
@JRCamo Actually, nearly all the stages/textures have been recreated in brawl. If someone could get 64 mechanics as well, that would be the best.
SSJCerious 1 year ago
@JRCamo Actually, LinkstheName from brawl vault is recreating 64...he did say he might ask some project m workers to crack the files from 64, but of course, after the project m is over.
SSJCerious 1 year ago
Wow, I heard about this from a friend, but it looks a million times better than I imagined!! Brawl's great but Melee's physics and style are far superior!!
Looking fantastic, can't wait till this has it's debut!
Also it sounds to me like you guys are balancing the characters. I hope so, cause if there was any complaint I ever had about Melee, it had to be it's lack of balance! Aside from that it was a next to perfect game XD
Also are you making a Mewtwo PSA for Lucario on the side for this?
ChaosInvokerX 1 year ago
@ChaosInvokerX Melee is the most balanced game...
Lahtios 1 year ago
@Lahtios
I think Brawl+ wins this contest!
ChaosInvokerX 1 year ago
@Lahtios Physicswise, Melee is indeed the most balanced of Smash games. In terms of tiers and matchups? Not really. There's a looooot of reeeally reeeealy bad matchups in Melee even within tiers. 64 is hard to judge by matchups due to how broken every attack in the game is in general, while Brawl mainly suffers matchup imbalances between tiers (although most matchups IN a tier are reasonably close).
A2ZOMG 1 year ago
I don't get it. Falco was a fox clone back then. And even Ganon was a clone of captain falcon.
fighter20brawler10 1 year ago
I think Brawl +/- are horrible, but I'll definitely try this out. It looks great!
Creo93 1 year ago
I like where this is going. There is no replacement for Melee, but for a quick fix, or for those that simply do not like Brawl or Melee, this should be Great!
raiga1324 1 year ago
meta knight is alredy broken in brawl. But project m will make meta knight GODLIKE.
xZlicex 1 year ago
@xZlicex Metaknight is currently mid tier or something like that. Heavy gravity plus not having the ability to auto-snap to the edges means Metaknight is just average. That and the fact that his tornado doesn't beat everything anymore.
Tiajuan 1 year ago