The meat eating in the bible was put there by man either that or God must have hated human because he tell us its "ok" to eat meat even though our body is designed by him for plants. That is why disease and death are so rampant from eating flesh and most common cause of choking in adult is meat. .
Obviously you've never read GOD's food laws. He clearly states what we can eat and what we can't. There are plenty of animals that are meant for food and they sure are tasty.
Again, that meat garbage was put there by man read my video information. If you want to believe that meat eating crap even though God said "thou shalt not kill" then you better believe in the 101 contradiction in the bible plus rape, slavery, genocide, human sacrifice and even murder of men condoned by "God".
Obviously you've never read GOD's food laws. He clearly states what we can eat and what we can't. There are plenty of animals that are meant for food and they sure are tasty.
What about this one: What is the exact diet of humans? I asked this of the omni followers. They don't know, just saying meat was very valuable.
But I also ask myself; What exactly did humans naturally eat before all the bullying tactics started? Bet it was never animals. Probably fruits, but what exact fruits were there before modernization screwed our minds?
You know I love that case against some vegan parents that fed their child on their diet. This just happened to be noticed in 2008 or 9, I forgot the exact date.
Yet studies show both for and against vegan diets? Why, what are they doing? How are they doing it? Why contradictory results?
Using the omnivore as the "control" is a poor way of saying we need more B12. It just proof they weren't real scientists doing those studies. No honesty as always.
Oh I forgot the mention of canibalism, whats the deal with that?
They say man needs meat, hunted animals, then at some point he suddenly decides to eat his rivals? What happened? Did they get hungry? Too greedy? Did one rival side steal their food so they got their revenge by eating them?
I guess farming couldn't have helped since they hadn't yet thought of that yet?
...Their way of "adapting" is going down the shop or take out.
So lets see; Man "evolved" to eat meat in the wild, takes all his brain power to design all those tools to weapons, fur coats, to survive in winter, colder areas, then later on becomes lazy and ditches all that lineage.
I seriously think you need to stop pushing this argument, I'm not a hunter and I do believe in balance. Yes people go overboard sometimes when it comes to eating meat. But WE ARE DESIGNED TO EAT BOTH. Otherwise we wouldn't have a digestive system that would use ACID specifically to break down proteins and don't feed me "We don't have short intestines". IF we did we could then only eat meat and no vegetables or fruits.
I seriously think you need to stop pushing this argument, I actually find it offensive that your trying to force your Ideals on other people. Look if you go to anyone NON religous person that teaches High school biology, they will tell you that we are in fact omnivores. I believe in balance and I know the food industry does push meat items more than the other because it generally does taste better but meat IS still apart of our diet whether you like it or not.
It you are a true "omnivore" you have the features of a grizzly bear and you will able to kill with your bare hands and consume carcass soon after the kill from the bones with your little canines.
Of course in HS they teach what the Government has taught like the lies of "eat meat for protein" "milk does a body good" BS when we already the garbage put into the meat and dairy and then they tell us it "does a body good"? Meat industry are connected to the pharmaceuticals and they want more sick people because healthy people do not make pharmaceuticals rich.
I agree with you we dont look like the frustrated werewolf , we look like the cute little monkey. In fact we are bipedal apes. and the the Ape family are omnivores.( If you still believe god created us) God created us to eat meat and vegetable. But in reality we evolved from a single cell to what we look now , and we are omnivores. Can you give us some of your references ... I have never study anything that you are talking here. Just want to know who's the liar ...
primates are frugivores and their diet is 95% plants, some termites and 1.4% meat which is for sexual favors. It "God" "created" man to eat meat he would have made damn sure our intestine would be short and smooth so all that putrid carcass would not sit for a long period of time inside a very long, pocketed plant eating intestine and why diseases and gunk seeps into our system and get diseases.
We have a basic need for iron and proteines to maintain a good health. I eat a lot of vegetables and herbs myself, but there are some problems with sticking to vegan-only food. Especially pregnant women and children have a need for proteins to make sure they develop properly.
I know pregnant vegan and even vegans who has vegan babies. I would suggest you watch my video called "in response to death by veganism". Plants are loaded with protein what do you think hunters use for animals to grow large antlers and create more deer? Protein from soybeans.
Check video response about that vegan baby incident and also ask yourself how many non-vegan babies die each year not only from neglect and abuse but from host of many other things? hmmm how many?
The animals typically hunted are herbivores, so that argument doesn't hold. Vegans can have healthy babies, but it does require some specialized suplements or specialist nutrients that contain the necessary vitamins and proteins.
@coorsgirl they hunted for survival and hunger and of course it crosses their mind because of pure hunger. Have you ever felt pure hunger? I have and you could just eat anyting even from the garbage. Also in the Andes back in 70's the plane crashed in the snow. There were survivers and they because of hunger ate the human bodies of their friend that did not make it. That is not the "norm"but they had to in order to survive.
God did not give man brain to say "hey create weapons so you can maim and kill people and animals. God gave one brain to know right from wrong yet man chose wrong.
First, we supposed to be related most closely to the chimpaneze. Have you seen thier canines? Second:
Romans 14:1-4 - Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Why do hunters repeat thinga in the bible that man has written?. Anything to do with eating of flesh was put there by man and if you like there is a link on video information "Jesus the Merciful" and you learn that the bible has been tampered with and many of Jesus compassion teaching was omitted. Did you know there are 101 contradiction in the bible ? One that we all know of is "thou shalt not kill" and then hunters favorite quote "peter, kill and eat" lol >>>>check the video info for the link
A chimpanzee is a frugivore animal and their diet is 95% plants, some termite and 1.4% meat. The meat is for sexual favors not for diet purpose. So that proves to you that chimp and other primates do have large canines but are frugivores.. Horses have canines so do camels. "Canines" are just words not because your is meant for eating flesh.
The thought of humans eating other humans when the plane crashed into the Andes Mountain is not a "norm" but they had to for survival same with how many started eating meat. They watched carnivores kill and consume and hunger gave them the ability to create tools and to hunt. If we were "natural" meat eaters God would have designed our body for such but we are not made for it. Sorry but we are frugivore/herbivore animal.
they did what they had to do to servive same with the Donner party they got stuck in the hills of the sierra nevada in the 1800s and had to eat the ones that died one man even sacrificed his life to give to the people so the childern would servive.
But to say we are not naturally ment to eat meat is wrong If we were not ment to do we as early humans Would have never tried it.
Man watched animals kill to eat. EArly man was nuts and seed eaters then they were scavengers who ate what ever was available. Its wasn't till later they learn to hunt because of cold and hunger meaning no other food source. If eating meat was "natural" there will not be so many meat eating related diseases and death.
I care for all, I don't choose which is worthy. To feed starving kid an animal do not have to die. There are vegetarian feed the hungry and they get nutritious and satisfying food without death on their plate.
Um were omnivores. not carnivores OR herbivores. get your facts straight. also you cant force people to be vegan they do what they wanna do. I do agree dont hunt deers though.
"omnivore" is just by name because we can chew and digest meat though most would not be able to chew raw carcass straight from the bones. Why do you think hunters marinate the deer carcass for so long? Its to add flavor and tenderize the meat because without all that they be chewing on tasteless rubber.
actually the deer that i have eatten hasnt even needed seasoning its been so tasty when its from a factory farm thats when you need to season it or it tastest like rubber.. natural grown wild meat i tastey all on its own
In one way you're right. We only ate plants before the flood. Afterwards God put the fear of man in animals and He told Noah that now they shall be meat for you. There's nothing wrong with taking the life of an animal for food.
God only granted temporary permission to eat meat after the flood because there was no plant source. Temporarily eat meat but when God wanted man to stop, man was too stubborn and selfish that is why God asked for man to drain the blood for blood is a life were there is a soul. If God really wanted man to eat meat he would have made man anatomically suited for it but he did not.
God is about mercy not about "fear" , that word was put there by man.
The same selfish man who put slavery in the bible even to the point of beating so long as they do not die.
"There's nothing wrong with taking the life of an animal for food. "
This is not about killing for survival plus if you have the choice not to kill why do you choose to do so? Wouldn't you think God would be happy your choice was not to kill?
Believe it , it was "fishweed" not a dead fish next to a bread can you imagine that? Our body is a temple so you don't put dead things in there you put the "living" which is plants.
that`s wat the sharp teeth in the corner of your mouth r for we learned this in science class(i don`t know about u but i can eat a steak pretty easily)
lol i played this song in orchestra last year.Also u r basically telling us wat we can and can`t eat.( i think my teeth do just fine on a big juicy steak! haha
It was "fish weed" which is a fish plant not the living swimming fish. Somehow though you like to take the "Fish and Jesus" and use that to justify killing animals for "sports" like the pathetic "Christian bowhunters"
We were able to create because our need to survive from hunger and cold. Tools and weapons made because we needed to survive not because we wanted to kill for the hell of it.
I'll quote Homer Simpson "If God didn't want us to eat animals than why did he make them taste so good." Besides that our stomach acid differs greatly than that of a true herbivore. Herbivores don't have the stomach acid required to digest meat.
"healthQ" wants to quote "homer simpson" hahhahhaha. Well, why don't you and homer try eating meat straight from a fresh killed animals without the seasoning, marinating and cooking. Try looking at a meat that has no preservative too it will turn grey just as human body would turn grey and start to putrefy soon after death.
I know what your thinking ....but think of it this way:IF MAN IS A NATURAL VEGETARIAN, THAN WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL ARGUING ABOUT IT. PEOPLE ONLY ARGUE FOR UNPROVEN ASSUMPTIONS...nobody argues about a deer that has been spotted chasing and hunting down a squirrel to eat it. Man is an opportunistic consumer..end of story.
Man has been brain washed for far too long about how meat is "good for you " because of the big money made from the meat industry and pharamaceutical with their own doctors and "science" . We are trying to teach the public that meat eating is not "natural" part of a human diet and that its is killing us. I really don't get your "deer chasing squirrels to eat it " comment lol
Who cares if meat is good for you or not? I've been eating it my whole life. I'm still here. My papaw has killed over 200 deer in his lifetime. He's still here. Seems to me with all the meat I eat, if it were harming my body in some way, I would know about it. I'm in EXTREMELY great shape. Hmmm......... Never had any health problems, ulcers, etc.... nope.... seems ok to me!
False,you can dry meat in a natural way if the climat let's you.That's what Native Indians did for centuries in the old plain culture.I have seen this with my own eyes.Meat can putrefy right,but meat is dead.How do you think you can eat your vegetables,they are still alive when you eat them.Let them decay like meat and you will not be capable of eating them.
okay you cant deny humans are animals and if we werent meant to kill we wouldnt be able to adapt by creating a tool to easy the act of killing the animal grow up and realize how the world work you stubborn idealist
Just because you can use a tool to kill animals does not mean man are made to be "natural" killers of animals. That is like saying man can use weapons/tools to kill other human but does not make man a "natural" killers of humans either.
Just by living every human kills animals, whether directly or indirectly you're still guilty. No amount of justification can save you. You're a bunch of hypocrites. You cry murder at hunters but you don't hesitate to et foot in a minimal that destroyed 10 acres of wetland and in turn killed a variety of animals do you? Every time you use any modern day items you kill animals.
I love what a vegan write wrote about what you just said.
[1] If you live and pay taxes in an industrialized nation with a strong military, such as the United States, you inadvertently and indirectly, and hopefully unwillingly and regrettably, support the slaughter of innocent humans in the form of warfare in other countries (waged primarily for economic reasons; the economic reasons controversially thought to be also national security reasons) and arms supply to violent militias,
just like vegans inadvertently, unwillingly, and regrettably support the slaughter of innocent nonhumans by living and paying taxes in our animal-exploiting society.
The reason he wrote it because of absurd comments like yours we hear every day.
Why did Jesus help the fishermen??? Why would he help murderers get so much death on their boat that they have to call in friends to carry all the death home. The more I think of it the more I am positive we are meant to eat meat.
It was "fishweed" you think Jesus going to put dead carcass of a fish next to bread which contaminate the bread. It was fish plant not the swimming fish.
People used the bible to justify killing animals and eating flesh. They twisted the words of "fishweed" to "fish" to justify eating a living being. Lets say it was a fish, did the fish come the sky it was not taken from the water alive was it? NO. Jesus would have wanted to show what it meant to eat something of no substance and dead like a fish compare to the living as of bread.
No one ate the fish did they? Did they catch the fish? Maybe fishweed but no fish and Jesus wanted them to come away from the fishing area so perhaps he wanted for them to change their profession.
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord
YOu know that is bogus because God would not allow any flesh eating and to say "only vegetable" are implying the other eat meat . "Thou shalt not kill" and the fact that God made our anatomy for plants just to proves to you that killing and eating flesh is not what God wanted us to do.
Man have put a lot of their own "God words" in their and ommitted many of Jesus teaching of vegetarianism.
Are you seriously saying that people just added versus to the bible so they could eat meat. Wouldn't that mean the entire bible is questionable? Whose to say whether or not Jesus' crucifixion was made up or not. By your standards one could argue that it was.
"Wouldn't that mean the entire bible is questionable?"
Of course it is that is what do you think I been trying to say? God is not about slavery, rape, genocide, disgusting animal sacrifice that you all believe. God is about compassion, kindness, mercy and love and hat is what you have to believe in either that or do not pick and choose the evil. God did not want man to kill especially killing for "sports".
You kill plants when you eat them. There are studies that say that plants scream when they are torn out of the ground. If we are not meant to kill our food, then what about plants. The plants that we KILL; is it ok to murder those plants.
I have a question for you. I have 2 theories, please let me know which one, if either are true. Do you 1) attend a church that has a delusional pastor that said this, or 2) are you a pastor that fooled himself. I am curious to see your response.
Do you know that when you HARVEST plants they are at the end of their lives? Some like corn and rice are dried when we HARVEST them unlike animals who still had many years when you decide to cut their life short. . Animal feel terror, pain and suffering and guess what? THEY RUN and why do you suppose they run? Because they WANT TO LIVE. Do plants run? NO and more the reason man was not made for eating meat for animal run, man cannot catch them, which is why man is designed for plant eating.
How do we know that the verses of vegetarianism weren't just added by vegetarians. Do you just say verses that you think are good are biblical, and verses you don't like just don''t exist.
Jesus always taught of kindness and compassion to all so its the bible that has been corrupted by man and the true writing is that from Jesus Gospel of peace. If you can take 2 Jesus would Jesus be of pain, suffering and death like in hunting or of kindness, compassion and mercy for all especially the animals for they are defenseless and at our mercy.?
D.C. you claim all is replied to, but that is untrue. You have given your opinion, and little if any facts. It is your opinion, and your wish that everyone would quit hunting, and quit eating meat. I think this is very disrespectful to our ancestors, but then, thats only my opinion.
I had seen and read it all about human being "omnivore" when we don't look anything close to a grizzlie. We are called omnivores because we can chew (cooked) and digest meat but anatomically we are made a plant eating animals.
We are very capable of eating uncooked meat, that was freshly killed. Sushi is one source, also you can eat raw freshly killed dear meat. I wouldn't suggest eating raw store bought meat though, as there are many poisons in store bought meat. Anatomically we are omnivorous.
I would suggest the book "Nutrition and Physical degeneration" though the purpose of the book was to describe how western foods are destroying our bodies, Weston Price also (indirectly) showed we are built to eat meat.
The Weston A. Price Foundation - advocates of a meat-based diet and of nursing into adulthoods (drinking another animal's milk, of course - not human milk). Their website offers laudatory reviews of recipe books for "delicious...warm pigs head, ox tongue, roast bone marrow, calfs heart, rolled pigs spleen, duck neck terrine, duck hearts on toast, many recipes for lambs brain, blood cake (made with 1 quart of pigs blood), pigs cheek and tongue, gratin of tripe,
haggis, deviled kidneys, and lambs kidneys." I couldn't make this up. These are the people telling people to not eat soy?
Of course I have eaten sushie and even steak tartar years ago but thats not killing and eating meat the way carnivores and omnivores does. Man cannot kill with their bare hands and also doing so would feel very odd for man is not made to be killing thus not made to eat meat.
Man CAN kill with there bare hands. We are capable of doing this, but there is no point. We have technology that enables us to get animals easier and quicker.
once again, hunting has gone on forever, since the beginning. activists like you will never win bc your points are invalid. being vegan is a choice by people who have learned too much about animals from the disney channel.
ever since man had to kill to survive. you think that because we are more sophisticated now we should stop hunting? most of the hunters out there humanely kill their game, and i know there are the bubba type who like to give hunters a bad name. hunting will go on as long as there is the human race because beleive it or not, vegan or not, we all subconsciously have an urge to kill.
The "urge" to kill is understandable because serial killers have that same "urge" where normal human do not. the thought of a life killed even by accident is enough to make me cringe. Humans in majority do not have the "urge" to kill if that was the case everyone would taking up hunting but you are only 5% of the population and dying.
If you have such an 'urge" to kill round up all the wildlife killers, serial killers, child abusers to a little island and kill each other off.
Talk to any psych major and they will tell you the exact same thing I told you. It has been proven in studies that a nonviolent person even has the urge to kill. But that's not the point. I don't have to explain to you why I like hunting, so go on and try to win your battle with the hunting community, but you will never win. An animal is an animal, they do not have a thought process like the human mind. We could go into theroies like evolution and what not, but i don't think your one-tracked min
"that a nonviolent person even has the urge to kill"
Can you explain in more detail. I can understand anger such as revenge if something happen to their family member, or in cases of self defense (not urge to kill but have to kill or use violence to protect themselves of their family members) but no "urge to kill" sorry that is your warped mentality.
Many serial killers were actually Vegans....Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, the list goes on...People who suppress such urges eventually lose control and Vegans are suppressing many natural urges...Therefore they are more likely to go on killing sprees.
Charles, ted and richard was no vegan they drank milk and ate meat and wore animal skins, so how do you come to conclusion that they are "vegan"? Show me a link to prove this
The word "Kill" applys to both plants and animals. God only meant not to kill humans. Did you forget that God labeled some meat as unclean in the old testament. There is no point in doing that. One of the great miracles Jesus performed was when he multiplied the bread and FISH to give to the crowd of hungry people.
It was not fish which swims in the water it was fish weed. All that cud and unclean and clean food was put there by man the same man that put slavery and rape "approved" by God. The only time God gave temporary permission was after the flood (no plant source) other then that God wanted no man to kill and eat meat that is why plenty of veggies have protein which man can get from veggie and why God made our anatomy for eating plant not for carcass.
Our anatomy is designed closes to an herbivore animals we even sleep like an herbivore animals and we are frugivore/herbivores. Sorry no matter how much you want to be believe you are a "natural" meat eaters you are not for man was not made to be killers , if humanity had the urge to kill our planet would be one big blood bath . Everything in us was designed to be plant eaters even our hands for we cannot ever take a life with our bare hand but we can pluck apples off the trees.
"In other words, the Hog and some of its allies, in certain respects, diverge in their structure from the ungulate towards the carnivorous type; while conversely, the Bears similarly diverge from the carnivorous type towards the Ungulata; the result being the same,-that is, regarded in the mass, they become omnivorous. "
"But the exceptions, so far from being inconsistent with the law of correlation, furnish fine illustrations of the manner in which its details are carried out, in contrasted cases of mixed types. "
There is a link you can read called biological adaptation on video information.
ok first of you must have some fucked up teeth. second of all we are omnivores and our front teeth aka (incisors) are purposely meant to cut threw food such as meats. And yes chimpanzees do eat meat and its not for "sexual favors if you seriously think that your on crack.O ya god also said to Noah "Everything that lives and moves will be your food. I gave you green plants as food; I now give you everything else" Um if thats not saying go ahead and eat meat then im must be missing something.
Still ignoring facts even if its there right in front you face you are no flesh eaters. Horses have the same canine so does camel but I don't see them eating meat. If God wanted man to have meat as part of their diet your intestine would have been way shorter r and not pocketed. You would not get meat eating related disease nor would you choke on it (most common cause of choking is meat).
If you look at chimpanzee and meat its about sexual favors why don't you look it up.
God granted permission only after the flood when there was plant source and of course because of the fall of man but man did not want to stop eating flesh and that is why God said to drain the blood for blood is a life is a soul. God send Jesus to end all the blood shed and bring peace back to the land for all being human and non-human animals.
"In that day I will make a covenant for them. With the beasts of the field and the birds of the air, and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land so that all may lay down in safety. I will betroth you to me forever. I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion." Hosea 2:18-19
"A righteous man cares for the needs of the animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel." Proverbs 12:10
Many other scriptures profess Gods love for animals. "God tests them [humans] so that they may see they are like the animals. Mans fate is like that of the animals. The same fate awaits them both. As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath. Man has no advantage over the animal.
Yes human are animals but not a "predator" in the animals world, maybe a manufactured made "predator" but not a natural. That would be akin to be able fly in a plane and calling yourself a bird LOL.
your talking like we have had the capability to easly get food for centuries. so basically what im trying to say is that the 1700s people were not meant to eat meat they were suppose to find "veggies" all over the place and just eat those. or is that an exeption. because i really dont think that i am that much different than someone who lived back then. and the only reason why i have a longer life expectancy is do to modern medical technology.
How do you think Japanese survived? They lived mostly on vegetable, soy, rice, bread, noodles and today we can do the same. Vegan does not mean eating a bowl of salad if that is what you think. If you like italian food, irish, japanese, chinese, casseroles, stuffed potatoes, pizza, bread, cake etc etc etc we can make them all on non-animal items.
ok thank you for being vegan cause thanks to you your going to get the word out and nobodies going to eat meat. and because of that no mor skin cancer lung cancer testicular cancer and brain cancer. please tell me one type of cancer directly caused by meat.
Researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine, led by Ajit Varki, M.D., have shown a new mechanism for how human consumption of red meat and milk products could contribute to the increased risk of cancerous tumors. Their findings, which suggest that inflammation resulting from a molecule introduced through consumption of these foods could promote tumor growth,
"their findings, which "suggest"! thats a big difference suggesting that something is the cause of it and saying that something is the direct cause. but ok. you here what you want to hear. Medical scientist dont normally know the exact cause all the time and thats were you get your suggesting. now im not saying they dont know what they are talking about but sometimes they just tell you things that could be the cause by finding stuff in common whith a number of peoples diets
""their findings, which "suggest"! thats a big difference "
Its been pretty fact that meat and dairy is killing people because our body is not meant to eat high protein animals flesh and fluid diet. God made our body for plants not for what was once a body.
and ill say it again you cant say that any of these cancers or diseases are direct causes of meat.
plus i remember you saying that a raw foodest diet could cure cancer do you actually convince your self that that is possible or are you just talking out of your ass.
Actually the meat industry and the pharmaceutical are all connected. The pharmaceutial needs sick people and the meat industry is more then happy to provide that. Did you know that a vegan diet can reverse diabetes without any medicine. Actually raw vegan is the healthiest diet on this planet. I bet if we all became raw foodist there be no more cancer , pollutions will be gone because no animal factories, our planet will be a more happier and healthier place.
ok just because you eat meat doesnt mean your going to get diabetes. you just have to have a well balanced diet plus people dont want to go threw the trouble of making sure that there food doesnt have animal "products" in it.
People made flours, corn meal, rice, potatoes and dehydrate them to last for the winter and that is how many lived in the region where there is cold. Oh I am sure in many places they killed animals to eat but it was far in between. they probably make a kill then serve a small meal of meat with tons of starch,, rice, bread,made soups, etc etc
ok japan is a totally different country than America but since you brought it up what about africa you can hardly grow anything there and even in the good parts its difficult. And meat is not bad for you. it doesnt make you sick unless it spoils or the animal had a disease. plus i never by meat from the store i kill my own meat have it butchered and 1 nice sized deer can last my family about a year.
Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place. All come from dust and to dust all return. Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth." Ecclesiastes 3:19-21
What does "blessed are the merciful for they shall receive mercy " means to you? You think bowkilling is about mercy?
deer teeth is of an herbivore animals. Our anatomy is closet to an herbivore animals rather then carnivores or omnivores but we are in fact frugivore like our closest cousin the primate.
So humans should all migrate to tropical regions where fruit is plentiful?
Funny you should say that, I love fruit and nuts, when the summer comes around I go almost vegan in my diet. It IS the natural diet for humans in hot climates.
The reality is that humans inhabit many climates and the diet varies. The other primates don't inhabit the whole globe.
Trucking in fruit and veggies is very environmentally harmful.
Eskimos survives on meat diet because there is not plant source but eskimo does not have long life span,. We as humans (plant eaters by design) would benefit by eating what our body was made for that is plants and we have plenty of non-animal choices as far as food available today.
So do I but I don't eat any kind of animal product at all. If yours is really about food you would not be here trying to defend yourself with excuses because you be too busy trying to survive.
"Trucking in fruit and veggies is very environmentally harmful. "
and how about animal agriculture with 10 billions land animals? Their fecal matter polluting waters, forest , long transport to slaughterhouse, etc.. Google "eco-eating".
Unless you only source of food is from the forest then your words are nothing. I know you have bacon and eggs for breakfast, ice cream, cheese and other dairy product as well or do you not? If you do then you are contributing to polluting the environment plus causing pain and suffering to the lives of our forest creatures.
Do you believe God condone beating slaves so long as they don't die or do you just pick and choose the evil. The bible has been rewritten by man to justify gluttony, greed, control and power those are not of God words. If God is supposed to be the opposite of satan then how can what God "condones" be no different then satan would condone.?
Are you contused or do you think you can act like the devil and pound on your man corrupted bible even knowing deep down inside that those evils is not about God. ?
A women can whip your ass LOL! But see you need tools so you are not at the "top the food chain" because you have to use tool and without it you be nothing more then a defenseless little bunny rabbit and a nice meal for the carnivores and omnivores of the wild.
You are not blocked. I am no there 24/7 checking to see if you commented stupid. If you don't like to wait for your comment to be approved then go else where.
The meat eating in the bible was put there by man either that or God must have hated human because he tell us its "ok" to eat meat even though our body is designed by him for plants. That is why disease and death are so rampant from eating flesh and most common cause of choking in adult is meat. .
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
@DeliberateCruelty
Obviously you've never read GOD's food laws. He clearly states what we can eat and what we can't. There are plenty of animals that are meant for food and they sure are tasty.
RPGcollector1980 2 years ago
Again, that meat garbage was put there by man read my video information. If you want to believe that meat eating crap even though God said "thou shalt not kill" then you better believe in the 101 contradiction in the bible plus rape, slavery, genocide, human sacrifice and even murder of men condoned by "God".
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
@DeliberateCruelty
Obviously you've never read GOD's food laws. He clearly states what we can eat and what we can't. There are plenty of animals that are meant for food and they sure are tasty.
RPGcollector1980 2 years ago
Thank you my friend. :)
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
What about this one: What is the exact diet of humans? I asked this of the omni followers. They don't know, just saying meat was very valuable.
But I also ask myself; What exactly did humans naturally eat before all the bullying tactics started? Bet it was never animals. Probably fruits, but what exact fruits were there before modernization screwed our minds?
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
You know I love that case against some vegan parents that fed their child on their diet. This just happened to be noticed in 2008 or 9, I forgot the exact date.
Yet studies show both for and against vegan diets? Why, what are they doing? How are they doing it? Why contradictory results?
Using the omnivore as the "control" is a poor way of saying we need more B12. It just proof they weren't real scientists doing those studies. No honesty as always.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
I have an upload on that vegan parents incident. Go check.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Oh I forgot the mention of canibalism, whats the deal with that?
They say man needs meat, hunted animals, then at some point he suddenly decides to eat his rivals? What happened? Did they get hungry? Too greedy? Did one rival side steal their food so they got their revenge by eating them?
I guess farming couldn't have helped since they hadn't yet thought of that yet?
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
...Their way of "adapting" is going down the shop or take out.
So lets see; Man "evolved" to eat meat in the wild, takes all his brain power to design all those tools to weapons, fur coats, to survive in winter, colder areas, then later on becomes lazy and ditches all that lineage.
So man is in effect a lazy coach potato?
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
Watch my upload " Did Jesus approved of hunting"? That genisis 9-3 you will see is crap. :)
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I seriously think you need to stop pushing this argument, I'm not a hunter and I do believe in balance. Yes people go overboard sometimes when it comes to eating meat. But WE ARE DESIGNED TO EAT BOTH. Otherwise we wouldn't have a digestive system that would use ACID specifically to break down proteins and don't feed me "We don't have short intestines". IF we did we could then only eat meat and no vegetables or fruits.
GIRRIG001 2 years ago
I seriously think you need to stop pushing this argument, I actually find it offensive that your trying to force your Ideals on other people. Look if you go to anyone NON religous person that teaches High school biology, they will tell you that we are in fact omnivores. I believe in balance and I know the food industry does push meat items more than the other because it generally does taste better but meat IS still apart of our diet whether you like it or not.
GIRRIG001 2 years ago 11
It you are a true "omnivore" you have the features of a grizzly bear and you will able to kill with your bare hands and consume carcass soon after the kill from the bones with your little canines.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Of course in HS they teach what the Government has taught like the lies of "eat meat for protein" "milk does a body good" BS when we already the garbage put into the meat and dairy and then they tell us it "does a body good"? Meat industry are connected to the pharmaceuticals and they want more sick people because healthy people do not make pharmaceuticals rich.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I agree with you we dont look like the frustrated werewolf , we look like the cute little monkey. In fact we are bipedal apes. and the the Ape family are omnivores.( If you still believe god created us) God created us to eat meat and vegetable. But in reality we evolved from a single cell to what we look now , and we are omnivores. Can you give us some of your references ... I have never study anything that you are talking here. Just want to know who's the liar ...
stefihuntalova 2 years ago 7
primates are frugivores and their diet is 95% plants, some termites and 1.4% meat which is for sexual favors. It "God" "created" man to eat meat he would have made damn sure our intestine would be short and smooth so all that putrid carcass would not sit for a long period of time inside a very long, pocketed plant eating intestine and why diseases and gunk seeps into our system and get diseases.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
It does when hunters and meatarians uses God as a lame and bogus excuses to kill and eat meat.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
We have a basic need for iron and proteines to maintain a good health. I eat a lot of vegetables and herbs myself, but there are some problems with sticking to vegan-only food. Especially pregnant women and children have a need for proteins to make sure they develop properly.
JanHBuch 2 years ago
I know pregnant vegan and even vegans who has vegan babies. I would suggest you watch my video called "in response to death by veganism". Plants are loaded with protein what do you think hunters use for animals to grow large antlers and create more deer? Protein from soybeans.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
and yet those parents in that video killed there child due to a vegan diet yep its great if you want to kill your child
coorscowgirl101 2 years ago
Check video response about that vegan baby incident and also ask yourself how many non-vegan babies die each year not only from neglect and abuse but from host of many other things? hmmm how many?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
The animals typically hunted are herbivores, so that argument doesn't hold. Vegans can have healthy babies, but it does require some specialized suplements or specialist nutrients that contain the necessary vitamins and proteins.
JanHBuch 2 years ago
@coorsgirl they hunted for survival and hunger and of course it crosses their mind because of pure hunger. Have you ever felt pure hunger? I have and you could just eat anyting even from the garbage. Also in the Andes back in 70's the plane crashed in the snow. There were survivers and they because of hunger ate the human bodies of their friend that did not make it. That is not the "norm"but they had to in order to survive.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
No, it says on the video god did not give man the brain to create weapons to kill, but he must have if somone invented a gun to kill people
But i personally just believe in evolution anyway
JohnnyRigman 2 years ago
God did not give man brain to say "hey create weapons so you can maim and kill people and animals. God gave one brain to know right from wrong yet man chose wrong.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
First, we supposed to be related most closely to the chimpaneze. Have you seen thier canines? Second:
Romans 14:1-4 - Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
MyUsername1120 2 years ago
Why do hunters repeat thinga in the bible that man has written?. Anything to do with eating of flesh was put there by man and if you like there is a link on video information "Jesus the Merciful" and you learn that the bible has been tampered with and many of Jesus compassion teaching was omitted. Did you know there are 101 contradiction in the bible ? One that we all know of is "thou shalt not kill" and then hunters favorite quote "peter, kill and eat" lol >>>>check the video info for the link
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
A chimpanzee is a frugivore animal and their diet is 95% plants, some termite and 1.4% meat. The meat is for sexual favors not for diet purpose. So that proves to you that chimp and other primates do have large canines but are frugivores.. Horses have canines so do camels. "Canines" are just words not because your is meant for eating flesh.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
The thought of humans eating other humans when the plane crashed into the Andes Mountain is not a "norm" but they had to for survival same with how many started eating meat. They watched carnivores kill and consume and hunger gave them the ability to create tools and to hunt. If we were "natural" meat eaters God would have designed our body for such but we are not made for it. Sorry but we are frugivore/herbivore animal.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
they did what they had to do to servive same with the Donner party they got stuck in the hills of the sierra nevada in the 1800s and had to eat the ones that died one man even sacrificed his life to give to the people so the childern would servive.
But to say we are not naturally ment to eat meat is wrong If we were not ment to do we as early humans Would have never tried it.
coorscowgirl101 2 years ago
Man watched animals kill to eat. EArly man was nuts and seed eaters then they were scavengers who ate what ever was available. Its wasn't till later they learn to hunt because of cold and hunger meaning no other food source. If eating meat was "natural" there will not be so many meat eating related diseases and death.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
there isnt *so many* meat illnesses
the ones that are around if you cook your meat properly you wont get
coorscowgirl101 2 years ago
Yeah sure coorscowgirl *roll eyes*
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Yeah, god didnt give us a brain to make weapons, yet there guns, rocket launchers, fighter jets and tanks in most countries
JohnnyRigman 2 years ago
You think God said "I am going to give man a brain so they can built all kinds of killing equipments to kill each other and animals?" lol
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
what do you care more about ? starving sick kids or starving sick animals ?
Bigtailhunter 2 years ago
I care for all, I don't choose which is worthy. To feed starving kid an animal do not have to die. There are vegetarian feed the hungry and they get nutritious and satisfying food without death on their plate.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Um were omnivores. not carnivores OR herbivores. get your facts straight. also you cant force people to be vegan they do what they wanna do. I do agree dont hunt deers though.
Bigtailhunter 2 years ago
"omnivore" is just by name because we can chew and digest meat though most would not be able to chew raw carcass straight from the bones. Why do you think hunters marinate the deer carcass for so long? Its to add flavor and tenderize the meat because without all that they be chewing on tasteless rubber.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
actually the deer that i have eatten hasnt even needed seasoning its been so tasty when its from a factory farm thats when you need to season it or it tastest like rubber.. natural grown wild meat i tastey all on its own
coorscowgirl101 2 years ago
O and just because are teeth aren't as long and sharp as a saber tooth tiger dosen't mean were not made to eat meat. Ever herd of evolution?
XJCRIDERX 2 years ago
If we "evolved" to eat meat then meat would not be killing us. Plus our intestine would have gotten shorter and smoother but it has not .
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
In one way you're right. We only ate plants before the flood. Afterwards God put the fear of man in animals and He told Noah that now they shall be meat for you. There's nothing wrong with taking the life of an animal for food.
shanejohnson9 2 years ago
God only granted temporary permission to eat meat after the flood because there was no plant source. Temporarily eat meat but when God wanted man to stop, man was too stubborn and selfish that is why God asked for man to drain the blood for blood is a life were there is a soul. If God really wanted man to eat meat he would have made man anatomically suited for it but he did not.
God is about mercy not about "fear" , that word was put there by man.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
The same selfish man who put slavery in the bible even to the point of beating so long as they do not die.
"There's nothing wrong with taking the life of an animal for food. "
This is not about killing for survival plus if you have the choice not to kill why do you choose to do so? Wouldn't you think God would be happy your choice was not to kill?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
wow, what a ridiculous video. Ha! It was fishweed?
Mindbender14 2 years ago
Believe it , it was "fishweed" not a dead fish next to a bread can you imagine that? Our body is a temple so you don't put dead things in there you put the "living" which is plants.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
"fishweed" what a fucktard.
30BulletHoles 2 years ago
THEY ATE FISHED IN THE BIBLE... is that NOT HUNTING? or are fish less important than "real" animals?? i'm getting angry
9mmkahr 2 years ago
that`s wat the sharp teeth in the corner of your mouth r for we learned this in science class(i don`t know about u but i can eat a steak pretty easily)
fishnkid1923 2 years ago
Try a raw thick slab of meat and see how quickly you can "rip" into it.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
lol i played this song in orchestra last year.Also u r basically telling us wat we can and can`t eat.( i think my teeth do just fine on a big juicy steak! haha
fishnkid1923 2 years ago
If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, then why did Jesus eat fish?
30BulletHoles 2 years ago
It was "fish weed" which is a fish plant not the living swimming fish. Somehow though you like to take the "Fish and Jesus" and use that to justify killing animals for "sports" like the pathetic "Christian bowhunters"
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
We were able to create because our need to survive from hunger and cold. Tools and weapons made because we needed to survive not because we wanted to kill for the hell of it.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I already refuted you about B12 and still here you are trying to prove I am wrong which you have not done. Tsk tsk.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
bears eat meat and their teeth are similar to ours. get the facts first stupid hippy
unc9089 2 years ago
bears teeth is "similar" to ours? lol
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I'll quote Homer Simpson "If God didn't want us to eat animals than why did he make them taste so good." Besides that our stomach acid differs greatly than that of a true herbivore. Herbivores don't have the stomach acid required to digest meat.
HealthQuestion 2 years ago
"healthQ" wants to quote "homer simpson" hahhahhaha. Well, why don't you and homer try eating meat straight from a fresh killed animals without the seasoning, marinating and cooking. Try looking at a meat that has no preservative too it will turn grey just as human body would turn grey and start to putrefy soon after death.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I know what your thinking ....but think of it this way:IF MAN IS A NATURAL VEGETARIAN, THAN WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL ARGUING ABOUT IT. PEOPLE ONLY ARGUE FOR UNPROVEN ASSUMPTIONS...nobody argues about a deer that has been spotted chasing and hunting down a squirrel to eat it. Man is an opportunistic consumer..end of story.
HealthQuestion 2 years ago
Man has been brain washed for far too long about how meat is "good for you " because of the big money made from the meat industry and pharamaceutical with their own doctors and "science" . We are trying to teach the public that meat eating is not "natural" part of a human diet and that its is killing us. I really don't get your "deer chasing squirrels to eat it " comment lol
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Who cares if meat is good for you or not? I've been eating it my whole life. I'm still here. My papaw has killed over 200 deer in his lifetime. He's still here. Seems to me with all the meat I eat, if it were harming my body in some way, I would know about it. I'm in EXTREMELY great shape. Hmmm......... Never had any health problems, ulcers, etc.... nope.... seems ok to me!
heyman20010 2 years ago
r u serious go see a docter!lol
fishnkid1923 2 years ago
False,you can dry meat in a natural way if the climat let's you.That's what Native Indians did for centuries in the old plain culture.I have seen this with my own eyes.Meat can putrefy right,but meat is dead.How do you think you can eat your vegetables,they are still alive when you eat them.Let them decay like meat and you will not be capable of eating them.
celt130 2 years ago
celt130 you are funny, i like your veggie comment about "dead veggies" lol
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
she just ignored ur comment about the acid!hahaha
fishnkid1923 2 years ago
okay you cant deny humans are animals and if we werent meant to kill we wouldnt be able to adapt by creating a tool to easy the act of killing the animal grow up and realize how the world work you stubborn idealist
NannerPuss62 2 years ago
Just because you can use a tool to kill animals does not mean man are made to be "natural" killers of animals. That is like saying man can use weapons/tools to kill other human but does not make man a "natural" killers of humans either.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Just by living every human kills animals, whether directly or indirectly you're still guilty. No amount of justification can save you. You're a bunch of hypocrites. You cry murder at hunters but you don't hesitate to et foot in a minimal that destroyed 10 acres of wetland and in turn killed a variety of animals do you? Every time you use any modern day items you kill animals.
nktank84 2 years ago
I love what a vegan write wrote about what you just said.
[1] If you live and pay taxes in an industrialized nation with a strong military, such as the United States, you inadvertently and indirectly, and hopefully unwillingly and regrettably, support the slaughter of innocent humans in the form of warfare in other countries (waged primarily for economic reasons; the economic reasons controversially thought to be also national security reasons) and arms supply to violent militias,
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
just like vegans inadvertently, unwillingly, and regrettably support the slaughter of innocent nonhumans by living and paying taxes in our animal-exploiting society.
The reason he wrote it because of absurd comments like yours we hear every day.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Why did Jesus help the fishermen??? Why would he help murderers get so much death on their boat that they have to call in friends to carry all the death home. The more I think of it the more I am positive we are meant to eat meat.
jacobrball 2 years ago
It was "fishweed" you think Jesus going to put dead carcass of a fish next to bread which contaminate the bread. It was fish plant not the swimming fish.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Then why didn't the bible say fishweed. Why does Romans 14 say what it does. You are either lying, or you need to study the bible closer.
jacobrball 2 years ago
People used the bible to justify killing animals and eating flesh. They twisted the words of "fishweed" to "fish" to justify eating a living being. Lets say it was a fish, did the fish come the sky it was not taken from the water alive was it? NO. Jesus would have wanted to show what it meant to eat something of no substance and dead like a fish compare to the living as of bread.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
What ever the reason it was not just to eat fish which means killing when there are plenty of non-animal food to eat.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
No one ate the fish did they? Did they catch the fish? Maybe fishweed but no fish and Jesus wanted them to come away from the fishing area so perhaps he wanted for them to change their profession.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
is able to make him stand.
jacobrball 2 years ago
Romans, Chapter 14
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord
jacobrball 2 years ago
YOu know that is bogus because God would not allow any flesh eating and to say "only vegetable" are implying the other eat meat . "Thou shalt not kill" and the fact that God made our anatomy for plants just to proves to you that killing and eating flesh is not what God wanted us to do.
Man have put a lot of their own "God words" in their and ommitted many of Jesus teaching of vegetarianism.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Are you seriously saying that people just added versus to the bible so they could eat meat. Wouldn't that mean the entire bible is questionable? Whose to say whether or not Jesus' crucifixion was made up or not. By your standards one could argue that it was.
jacobrball 2 years ago
"Wouldn't that mean the entire bible is questionable?"
Of course it is that is what do you think I been trying to say? God is not about slavery, rape, genocide, disgusting animal sacrifice that you all believe. God is about compassion, kindness, mercy and love and hat is what you have to believe in either that or do not pick and choose the evil. God did not want man to kill especially killing for "sports".
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
You kill plants when you eat them. There are studies that say that plants scream when they are torn out of the ground. If we are not meant to kill our food, then what about plants. The plants that we KILL; is it ok to murder those plants.
I have a question for you. I have 2 theories, please let me know which one, if either are true. Do you 1) attend a church that has a delusional pastor that said this, or 2) are you a pastor that fooled himself. I am curious to see your response.
jacobrball 2 years ago
Do you know that when you HARVEST plants they are at the end of their lives? Some like corn and rice are dried when we HARVEST them unlike animals who still had many years when you decide to cut their life short. . Animal feel terror, pain and suffering and guess what? THEY RUN and why do you suppose they run? Because they WANT TO LIVE. Do plants run? NO and more the reason man was not made for eating meat for animal run, man cannot catch them, which is why man is designed for plant eating.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
How do we know that the verses of vegetarianism weren't just added by vegetarians. Do you just say verses that you think are good are biblical, and verses you don't like just don''t exist.
jacobrball 2 years ago
Jesus always taught of kindness and compassion to all so its the bible that has been corrupted by man and the true writing is that from Jesus Gospel of peace. If you can take 2 Jesus would Jesus be of pain, suffering and death like in hunting or of kindness, compassion and mercy for all especially the animals for they are defenseless and at our mercy.?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
its proven that meat is essential to healthy brain development...
OH that explains why your so fucking stupid...
CrazyMcSwaggin 2 years ago
Protein is not what fuels the brain its glucose and there is no glucose in meat. stoooooopid!
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
D.C. you claim all is replied to, but that is untrue. You have given your opinion, and little if any facts. It is your opinion, and your wish that everyone would quit hunting, and quit eating meat. I think this is very disrespectful to our ancestors, but then, thats only my opinion.
Downedworker 2 years ago
/watch?v=TNvTUy6VtJg&feature=related proves that we are omnivores.
jacobrball 2 years ago
I had seen and read it all about human being "omnivore" when we don't look anything close to a grizzlie. We are called omnivores because we can chew (cooked) and digest meat but anatomically we are made a plant eating animals.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
We are very capable of eating uncooked meat, that was freshly killed. Sushi is one source, also you can eat raw freshly killed dear meat. I wouldn't suggest eating raw store bought meat though, as there are many poisons in store bought meat. Anatomically we are omnivorous.
I would suggest the book "Nutrition and Physical degeneration" though the purpose of the book was to describe how western foods are destroying our bodies, Weston Price also (indirectly) showed we are built to eat meat.
jacobrball 2 years ago
The Weston A. Price Foundation - advocates of a meat-based diet and of nursing into adulthoods (drinking another animal's milk, of course - not human milk). Their website offers laudatory reviews of recipe books for "delicious...warm pigs head, ox tongue, roast bone marrow, calfs heart, rolled pigs spleen, duck neck terrine, duck hearts on toast, many recipes for lambs brain, blood cake (made with 1 quart of pigs blood), pigs cheek and tongue, gratin of tripe,
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
haggis, deviled kidneys, and lambs kidneys." I couldn't make this up. These are the people telling people to not eat soy?
Of course I have eaten sushie and even steak tartar years ago but thats not killing and eating meat the way carnivores and omnivores does. Man cannot kill with their bare hands and also doing so would feel very odd for man is not made to be killing thus not made to eat meat.
Poisons are also in deer meat (CWD, CJD)
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Man CAN kill with there bare hands. We are capable of doing this, but there is no point. We have technology that enables us to get animals easier and quicker.
jacobrball 2 years ago
Of course we can kill with out bare hands but it would feel really strange and disturbing.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
i asked this on another sight give me verses in the bible where god told us not to eat meat and jesus did not eat meat show them
chadhub 2 years ago
The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious."
dontmakemepunchyou 2 years ago
"killing innocent animals for self-gratification is no different from killing innocent people for self-gratification."
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
once again, hunting has gone on forever, since the beginning. activists like you will never win bc your points are invalid. being vegan is a choice by people who have learned too much about animals from the disney channel.
cjleger337 2 years ago
Can you explain to me exactly when did this "beginning of time" began?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
ever since man had to kill to survive. you think that because we are more sophisticated now we should stop hunting? most of the hunters out there humanely kill their game, and i know there are the bubba type who like to give hunters a bad name. hunting will go on as long as there is the human race because beleive it or not, vegan or not, we all subconsciously have an urge to kill.
cjleger337 2 years ago
The "urge" to kill is understandable because serial killers have that same "urge" where normal human do not. the thought of a life killed even by accident is enough to make me cringe. Humans in majority do not have the "urge" to kill if that was the case everyone would taking up hunting but you are only 5% of the population and dying.
If you have such an 'urge" to kill round up all the wildlife killers, serial killers, child abusers to a little island and kill each other off.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Talk to any psych major and they will tell you the exact same thing I told you. It has been proven in studies that a nonviolent person even has the urge to kill. But that's not the point. I don't have to explain to you why I like hunting, so go on and try to win your battle with the hunting community, but you will never win. An animal is an animal, they do not have a thought process like the human mind. We could go into theroies like evolution and what not, but i don't think your one-tracked min
cjleger337 2 years ago
"that a nonviolent person even has the urge to kill"
Can you explain in more detail. I can understand anger such as revenge if something happen to their family member, or in cases of self defense (not urge to kill but have to kill or use violence to protect themselves of their family members) but no "urge to kill" sorry that is your warped mentality.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
can handle seeing someone else's point of view so i wont even touch on the subject.
cjleger337 2 years ago
"cant' handle" what? all yours is replied to.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Many serial killers were actually Vegans....Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, the list goes on...People who suppress such urges eventually lose control and Vegans are suppressing many natural urges...Therefore they are more likely to go on killing sprees.
timetodepop 2 years ago
Charles, ted and richard was no vegan they drank milk and ate meat and wore animal skins, so how do you come to conclusion that they are "vegan"? Show me a link to prove this
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
None of them were "vegans" show me proof they were!lol How sad and desperate!
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
The word "Kill" applys to both plants and animals. God only meant not to kill humans. Did you forget that God labeled some meat as unclean in the old testament. There is no point in doing that. One of the great miracles Jesus performed was when he multiplied the bread and FISH to give to the crowd of hungry people.
jacobrball 2 years ago
It was not fish which swims in the water it was fish weed. All that cud and unclean and clean food was put there by man the same man that put slavery and rape "approved" by God. The only time God gave temporary permission was after the flood (no plant source) other then that God wanted no man to kill and eat meat that is why plenty of veggies have protein which man can get from veggie and why God made our anatomy for eating plant not for carcass.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Our anatomy is NOT one of an herbivore. We are incapable of digesting cellulose. We are capable of eating many raw meats. You are wrong
jacobrball 2 years ago
Our anatomy is designed closes to an herbivore animals we even sleep like an herbivore animals and we are frugivore/herbivores. Sorry no matter how much you want to be believe you are a "natural" meat eaters you are not for man was not made to be killers , if humanity had the urge to kill our planet would be one big blood bath . Everything in us was designed to be plant eaters even our hands for we cannot ever take a life with our bare hand but we can pluck apples off the trees.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Are you seriously twisting scripture around just so it fits into your pathetic agenda. Let's look at the bible shall we?
jacobrball 2 years ago
check video response ;)
flowers2211 2 years ago
pigs are omnivores and they have claws
brigaddiga 2 years ago
"In other words, the Hog and some of its allies, in certain respects, diverge in their structure from the ungulate towards the carnivorous type; while conversely, the Bears similarly diverge from the carnivorous type towards the Ungulata; the result being the same,-that is, regarded in the mass, they become omnivorous. "
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
"But the exceptions, so far from being inconsistent with the law of correlation, furnish fine illustrations of the manner in which its details are carried out, in contrasted cases of mixed types. "
There is a link you can read called biological adaptation on video information.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Look!! Opposable thumbs, good for making weapons and tools!!
cheaze69 2 years ago
And good for picking and holding plants and fruits. Just because you can make a fist and punch someone does not mean its for man to do that is it?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Why would I want to punch someone? How do I gut Bambi with a broken hand?
cheaze69 2 years ago
ok first of you must have some fucked up teeth. second of all we are omnivores and our front teeth aka (incisors) are purposely meant to cut threw food such as meats. And yes chimpanzees do eat meat and its not for "sexual favors if you seriously think that your on crack.O ya god also said to Noah "Everything that lives and moves will be your food. I gave you green plants as food; I now give you everything else" Um if thats not saying go ahead and eat meat then im must be missing something.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
Still ignoring facts even if its there right in front you face you are no flesh eaters. Horses have the same canine so does camel but I don't see them eating meat. If God wanted man to have meat as part of their diet your intestine would have been way shorter r and not pocketed. You would not get meat eating related disease nor would you choke on it (most common cause of choking is meat).
If you look at chimpanzee and meat its about sexual favors why don't you look it up.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
What kind of horse do you have DC? I have never seen a canine on a horse.
jcooper9099 2 years ago
There is a video on my favorite about canines. check it out.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
God granted permission only after the flood when there was plant source and of course because of the fall of man but man did not want to stop eating flesh and that is why God said to drain the blood for blood is a life is a soul. God send Jesus to end all the blood shed and bring peace back to the land for all being human and non-human animals.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
"In that day I will make a covenant for them. With the beasts of the field and the birds of the air, and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land so that all may lay down in safety. I will betroth you to me forever. I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion." Hosea 2:18-19
"A righteous man cares for the needs of the animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel." Proverbs 12:10
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Many other scriptures profess Gods love for animals. "God tests them [humans] so that they may see they are like the animals. Mans fate is like that of the animals. The same fate awaits them both. As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath. Man has no advantage over the animal.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
God tests them [humans] so that they may see they are like the animals.
Yes we are animals, and predators.
jcooper9099 2 years ago
Yes human are animals but not a "predator" in the animals world, maybe a manufactured made "predator" but not a natural. That would be akin to be able fly in a plane and calling yourself a bird LOL.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Manufactured? Like the chimpanzee that uses a stick to 'fish' for termites. Is he an anteater now? LOL!
cheaze69 2 years ago
I don't a manufacture making stick for chimpanzees use.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I stick monkey making use for dont' a what???
cheaze69 2 years ago
your talking like we have had the capability to easly get food for centuries. so basically what im trying to say is that the 1700s people were not meant to eat meat they were suppose to find "veggies" all over the place and just eat those. or is that an exeption. because i really dont think that i am that much different than someone who lived back then. and the only reason why i have a longer life expectancy is do to modern medical technology.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
How do you think Japanese survived? They lived mostly on vegetable, soy, rice, bread, noodles and today we can do the same. Vegan does not mean eating a bowl of salad if that is what you think. If you like italian food, irish, japanese, chinese, casseroles, stuffed potatoes, pizza, bread, cake etc etc etc we can make them all on non-animal items.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
ok thank you for being vegan cause thanks to you your going to get the word out and nobodies going to eat meat. and because of that no mor skin cancer lung cancer testicular cancer and brain cancer. please tell me one type of cancer directly caused by meat.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
Researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine, led by Ajit Varki, M.D., have shown a new mechanism for how human consumption of red meat and milk products could contribute to the increased risk of cancerous tumors. Their findings, which suggest that inflammation resulting from a molecule introduced through consumption of these foods could promote tumor growth,
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
"their findings, which "suggest"! thats a big difference suggesting that something is the cause of it and saying that something is the direct cause. but ok. you here what you want to hear. Medical scientist dont normally know the exact cause all the time and thats were you get your suggesting. now im not saying they dont know what they are talking about but sometimes they just tell you things that could be the cause by finding stuff in common whith a number of peoples diets
brigaddiga 2 years ago
""their findings, which "suggest"! thats a big difference "
Its been pretty fact that meat and dairy is killing people because our body is not meant to eat high protein animals flesh and fluid diet. God made our body for plants not for what was once a body.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Lung, Liver, Esophageal, Pancreatic Cancers then you have heart disease , obesity and so many other illnesses but great for the pharmecuticals.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
and ill say it again you cant say that any of these cancers or diseases are direct causes of meat.
plus i remember you saying that a raw foodest diet could cure cancer do you actually convince your self that that is possible or are you just talking out of your ass.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
Actually the meat industry and the pharmaceutical are all connected. The pharmaceutial needs sick people and the meat industry is more then happy to provide that. Did you know that a vegan diet can reverse diabetes without any medicine. Actually raw vegan is the healthiest diet on this planet. I bet if we all became raw foodist there be no more cancer , pollutions will be gone because no animal factories, our planet will be a more happier and healthier place.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
ok just because you eat meat doesnt mean your going to get diabetes. you just have to have a well balanced diet plus people dont want to go threw the trouble of making sure that there food doesnt have animal "products" in it.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
There is a link about diabetes and vegan diet on video information.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
People made flours, corn meal, rice, potatoes and dehydrate them to last for the winter and that is how many lived in the region where there is cold. Oh I am sure in many places they killed animals to eat but it was far in between. they probably make a kill then serve a small meal of meat with tons of starch,, rice, bread,made soups, etc etc
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
ok japan is a totally different country than America but since you brought it up what about africa you can hardly grow anything there and even in the good parts its difficult. And meat is not bad for you. it doesnt make you sick unless it spoils or the animal had a disease. plus i never by meat from the store i kill my own meat have it butchered and 1 nice sized deer can last my family about a year.
brigaddiga 2 years ago
Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place. All come from dust and to dust all return. Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth." Ecclesiastes 3:19-21
What does "blessed are the merciful for they shall receive mercy " means to you? You think bowkilling is about mercy?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I have a deer skull at home. There is a huge gap between the incisors and molars. Us omnivores seem to be lacking that.
cheaze69 2 years ago
deer teeth is of an herbivore animals. Our anatomy is closet to an herbivore animals rather then carnivores or omnivores but we are in fact frugivore like our closest cousin the primate.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
So humans should all migrate to tropical regions where fruit is plentiful?
Funny you should say that, I love fruit and nuts, when the summer comes around I go almost vegan in my diet. It IS the natural diet for humans in hot climates.
The reality is that humans inhabit many climates and the diet varies. The other primates don't inhabit the whole globe.
Trucking in fruit and veggies is very environmentally harmful.
cheaze69 2 years ago
Eskimos survives on meat diet because there is not plant source but eskimo does not have long life span,. We as humans (plant eaters by design) would benefit by eating what our body was made for that is plants and we have plenty of non-animal choices as far as food available today.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
I live in a multi season region.
cheaze69 2 years ago
So do I but I don't eat any kind of animal product at all. If yours is really about food you would not be here trying to defend yourself with excuses because you be too busy trying to survive.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
"Trucking in fruit and veggies is very environmentally harmful. "
and how about animal agriculture with 10 billions land animals? Their fecal matter polluting waters, forest , long transport to slaughterhouse, etc.. Google "eco-eating".
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
You're preaching to the choir.
Hunting wild animals rather than purchasing commercia meat whenever possible is my contribution to the environment.
For me to eat "fresh" fruit and veggies in the winter I have to compromise and let the trucks do their damage.
What's more valuable to you? Bambi's feelings or the whole planet?
cheaze69 2 years ago
Unless you only source of food is from the forest then your words are nothing. I know you have bacon and eggs for breakfast, ice cream, cheese and other dairy product as well or do you not? If you do then you are contributing to polluting the environment plus causing pain and suffering to the lives of our forest creatures.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Do you believe God condone beating slaves so long as they don't die or do you just pick and choose the evil. The bible has been rewritten by man to justify gluttony, greed, control and power those are not of God words. If God is supposed to be the opposite of satan then how can what God "condones" be no different then satan would condone.?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Are you contused or do you think you can act like the devil and pound on your man corrupted bible even knowing deep down inside that those evils is not about God. ?
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
A women can whip your ass LOL! But see you need tools so you are not at the "top the food chain" because you have to use tool and without it you be nothing more then a defenseless little bunny rabbit and a nice meal for the carnivores and omnivores of the wild.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
Yes, there are women that can outhunt me. Are you a sexist?
If the other species could make tools they'd own us.
Humans are more intelligent, therefore superior.
So you think brawn rules over brain? YOu are the primitive.
cheaze69 2 years ago
You cuss like that again and you be blocked. @ cheaze.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
It's got nothing to do with 'cussing'. YOu are getting defeated and need to rely ond blocking me.
cheaze69 2 years ago
You are not blocked. I am no there 24/7 checking to see if you commented stupid. If you don't like to wait for your comment to be approved then go else where.
DeliberateCruelty 2 years ago
No, you blocked anything you couldn't BS around.
If I commented something stupid or invalid you would leave it be to discredit me. That is what an intelligent person would do.
cheaze69 2 years ago