naaah im young and im agree with him when he said MOVE VS MOVEMENT! move without movement... without flavour.... when i see bboys doing crazy trics and shit with no kind of flavour nothing no atitude is like r u doing gimnastic or dancing?... i prefer to see the how he flows with the music and works with it better than see a guy with a lot of tricks and powers but not rythim
@bboynaturalEMT how about your local jams get their own original concepts and if they like my concept so much how about showing me the respect of doing it correctly?
@smeerios i dont hate anyone, to each his own, thos guys do some dope stuff, its just not what i like to see when i watch a bboy, but it doesnt stop them from being dope
yo man..this is knowledge hes talking about...those ppl out there that say ness and zulu kings suck, is wrong, they keep it real and fresh more than anybody else in this world, however I also have to keep it real that this is the new generation, and im part of that new generation of bboys, and things have change. well this is just my lame comment, i dont have enough knowledge as ness and other bboys do, but alot of love to alieness and zulu kings. pce
of course, why wouldnt i know that? i didnt say only usa bboys now, i said zulu kings, as all internationnal bboys that is in zulu kings plus korean and japanese bboys, geez, i wonder why you have to be so specific now these days in youtube when u put down a comment.
great vid. but we shouldn't take away the message: "Don't do power." It can be really expressive too, the point is that a lot of bboys nowadays go directly to learning how to spin on their head and flip in the air and never learn how to DANCE.
So what he's saying (as I understand it) is that acrobatics without dance is missing out on the connection with the music that makes the experience so much more. So spin on your hands if its fun but learn the DANCE first.
power is an expression of movement and that's what dance is...expression of movement. there's different kinds of dance and doing power is a part of dance whether you like it or not. ballet is concidered a dance... and they don't dance on beat, they focus on doing moves with precision (by the way i don't like ballet, just using it as an example to make a point cuz it's relavent)
I keep hearing all this stuff like it's bad to do power...how about doing it all (all aspects of bboying).
true to a dancer, power moves can be used to express yourself and some1 doing ballet doesnt use the drum to direct his/her movment, but do you see balerinas breakin? or are bboys breakin, the same goes for power movrs they may be doin power moves and expresing themselves but expression doesnt make you a bbo.
all forms of dance follow a different set of rules that make the dance what it is, in ballet u must be graceful ness told us what we need 2bboy
but without expression, you can't be a bboy either. following too many rules is contradicting what bboying is all about. they say there's no rules (still follow the main guidline) but i see so many rules. in my opinion, if alieness could could do really good power, i don't think he'd be complaining.
anyway, my point is that you should dance, do footwork, power, tricks, freezes, everything. alieness seems to be dividing aspects of bboying and making one side good and the other bad.
Dude, you do know Alien Ness invented elbow 90's right? When he was young, he did more mills, flares, swipes, flips, etc, but even then he did them on beat and with style.
Of course ballerinas don't dance to the same rhythmic drum beat, because they're not doing the bboy dance. Ness here isn't saying what defines ALL of dance in general, he's just talking about bboying specifically. And for the record ballerinas still move to music, just not to the drum beat.
I don't care if he did a bit of power before. he's still saying really not to do it.
Anyway I won't dance the way he says just cuz he's saying it. you hear all this "be yourself, don't let anybody tell you what to do"...and yet if you don't do what they say, you're wrong...
where did he say not to do power moves? he never said that. you're totally misinterpreting this. dance is not expression of movement, that's gymnastics and acrobatics. you dont need music for expression of movement. for one to be a true bboy then he must be a dancer, and a dancer reacts to music and expresses the*emotion* he feels from the music, and bboying was created from the feeling of the breakbeat rhythm. like alien said "if you cant catch that rhythm, you're not bboyin."
@Ness4 Man, how did I put words in your mouth? You were talkin about how some bboys just do the same thing over and over and they arent really dancing on stage. I gave some examples of bboys that I know that do that. I totally agree with what you said
it doesnt matter whether you're doing power or not. when power becomes separate from dance is when the dancer starts thinking instead of feeling, focusing on the move rather than letting go & allowing the music to create the move, thinking about your body rather than feeling the music. there have always been bboys who do power and do them on beat, with style and soul. Lilou & Machine are 2 current examples. the music drives their movements, not their thoughts.
I like forgot about this vid...Anyway, "moseshightower", he basically implies that powermoves (mainly) have no soul and it's the wrong way to go if you want to be a "real" bboy. You saying I'm wrong about this won't make me think otherwise.
Power and tricks are movements aswell as all the rest in bboying. There's feeling and soul in all of it.
what he implies is that powermoves alone without dancing/feeling have no soul, b/c at that point it's only about *impressing* and not *expressing*. you either dance to express or dance to impress. there's feeling and soul in all of it when it's actually done in sync with the music. when it's not in sync with the rhythm it's no longer dance & no longer about expressing, but about impressing. and that's not with just bboying but with any style of dance.
What Ness said makes a lot of sense. Power moves are sick, no doubt. But without rhythm, they start to lack style and become repetitive. Why do you think bboys like Born, Ness, Machine, Dyzee, and Kazu are able to stand out amongst all of the power heads. Its because they are able to feel the music and "dance" to the rhythm. Their movements are determined by what music is playing so it requires them to be more dynamic which makes every move more impressive because flows with the song.
Breakerblacky01 has posted that exact same comment on other Ness vids. I think hes got some personal issues to sort out before he continues talking shit.
yo izzi stop talkin ya shyt man. I got luv fa everyone but u nee to stop talkin and do u. U dont like ness u dont like ness but dont be attackin him. Cuz i seen ya videos and on some realness u need work my dude. Im givin u advice but if u wanna come talkin sideways hop on a flight to NYC and come see me i aint hard to find.
alien ness u are a son of a bitch... i will fuck ur family!!! u break since 20 years but can do NOTHING!!!! MOTHERFUCKER.. SCHEISS NIGGA!!!! look at physix look at cico look at lilou... they are bboys... u are nothing mann!!! NOTHINGGG!!!!!! u want respect but my dick can give u respect.. u talk about respect but u dont know what is respect.. for this 20 years u can have my SHIT as respect asshole.. i will fuck u mann when i see u ..!!!! BBOY IZZI (from austria)u can see me at doyobe vol3!!!
Message: hey dude.. that was my friend who write that fuck over youtube!!! i wouldnt write like that..:) u have my respect..u was my judge at doyobe vol 2. i am a beginner!! where will u teach classes in vienna??
and the friend was write the comments is bboy RECEP he hates you !!! iam sry to say that !!
Half yall dudes talkin bout Zulu Kings and how they suck but when it comes down to it yo i bet u they will whoop yo asses. So before u can beat ness dont talk shyt got me. And if u got somethin to say to me say it cuz i aint afraid to battle.
this!! asshole things he is a superstar he was judge at the doyobe !!! he blame his self and the zulu crew was suck!!! the marrocon guys kill the zulu kings and ness was crying he knows la halla king zoo was better but the other judges was friends of ness !!! i hate him so much he is a motherfucking ugly person!!
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OH my god... are you serius ? La halla king zoo are fucking wack.. i mean... Its impossible for la halla king zoo to even be close... I mean,.. I dont understand!!! Why are you so wack.. !!!
He's not dissing headspins, he's just saying to do the headspin, any move, within movements and grooves of dancing.
If you say "no disrespect" and then you diss him for being "too old" to do a headspin, that is disrespect, and you're disrespecting someone who knows and has been in the bboy scene much longer than you.
@watch023 im not mad about anything but people who talk as if they know me and dont. i have no problem with headspins, i do headspins. pay attention to what was really said and maybe you will get a perspective as to where im coming from.
@watch023 Buddy you realize hes saying that most new gens just do crazy blows up and power moves and don't Bboy on beat..Bboying is a dance form...So dance on beat ffs.. just because you can do some crazy moves doesn't mean you are insane.. It means you have devotion and can practice something over and over...
haha, reminds me of that time my crew member was like, go faster! (master swipes) ..i was like, fuck no, im puttin my foot down on beat
scm867 3 months ago
what the hell is ness wearing. hahaha
bertos09 10 months ago
he's not talking shiiit!
naaah im young and im agree with him when he said MOVE VS MOVEMENT! move without movement... without flavour.... when i see bboys doing crazy trics and shit with no kind of flavour nothing no atitude is like r u doing gimnastic or dancing?... i prefer to see the how he flows with the music and works with it better than see a guy with a lot of tricks and powers but not rythim
LaZaiB 1 year ago
vc é cora bboy bebel
david85710 1 year ago
wtf does dancing with a girl an doin head spins got any thng to do with breakin
celis281 1 year ago
@celis281 one answer dancing, bboying is about dancing not about moves.
nubian7angel 1 year ago 2
@celis281 are you serious? listen. he explains it in the video
TippmanFaith 1 year ago
yo gotta have soul !
pseudonymmmm 2 years ago
exactly yo! you gotta ride the rhythm
pseudonymmmm 2 years ago
alien ness is greedy :(
He didnt let my local jam use the octagon battles..
I dont like him anymore :(
bboynaturalEMT 2 years ago
@bboynaturalEMT how about your local jams get their own original concepts and if they like my concept so much how about showing me the respect of doing it correctly?
Ness4 1 year ago
i like it :)
soulrockerzchannel 2 years ago
Ness must hate a lotta bboys like bboy Baek and Zero-Nine and such that have a buncha pre-determined sets and tricks and whatnot
smeerios 2 years ago
@smeerios i dont hate anyone, to each his own, thos guys do some dope stuff, its just not what i like to see when i watch a bboy, but it doesnt stop them from being dope
Ness4 2 years ago
alien ness and afrika bambaataa
Iam1HipHopEducator 2 years ago
ness speaks truth
if you got no soul in the dance
then you aint dancing
movement > moves anyday
KireRen 2 years ago 3
thats real talk right there
JKusanagi 2 years ago 2
truth
Maho2109 2 years ago 3
RIGHTTT true that
LiQuiid1988 2 years ago 2
that guy in :34 DEf agrees with alien ness
Filip3anut 2 years ago 3
styles ftw
isiahdegu 2 years ago
yo man..this is knowledge hes talking about...those ppl out there that say ness and zulu kings suck, is wrong, they keep it real and fresh more than anybody else in this world, however I also have to keep it real that this is the new generation, and im part of that new generation of bboys, and things have change. well this is just my lame comment, i dont have enough knowledge as ness and other bboys do, but alot of love to alieness and zulu kings. pce
bboyCharlieBrown 3 years ago
check out korea!
lwcrulzzz 3 years ago
what about them? so what if koreas dope?
bboyCharlieBrown 3 years ago
theres koreans in zulu kingz
jerudamajinya 3 years ago
of course, why wouldnt i know that? i didnt say only usa bboys now, i said zulu kings, as all internationnal bboys that is in zulu kings plus korean and japanese bboys, geez, i wonder why you have to be so specific now these days in youtube when u put down a comment.
bboyCharlieBrown 3 years ago
great vid. but we shouldn't take away the message: "Don't do power." It can be really expressive too, the point is that a lot of bboys nowadays go directly to learning how to spin on their head and flip in the air and never learn how to DANCE.
So what he's saying (as I understand it) is that acrobatics without dance is missing out on the connection with the music that makes the experience so much more. So spin on your hands if its fun but learn the DANCE first.
forza599 3 years ago
moves without music is tricks
Hotboiruben1 3 years ago 3
power is an expression of movement and that's what dance is...expression of movement. there's different kinds of dance and doing power is a part of dance whether you like it or not. ballet is concidered a dance... and they don't dance on beat, they focus on doing moves with precision (by the way i don't like ballet, just using it as an example to make a point cuz it's relavent)
I keep hearing all this stuff like it's bad to do power...how about doing it all (all aspects of bboying).
bboy11998877 3 years ago
sum of what u say is correct some of it isnt.
true to a dancer, power moves can be used to express yourself and some1 doing ballet doesnt use the drum to direct his/her movment, but do you see balerinas breakin? or are bboys breakin, the same goes for power movrs they may be doin power moves and expresing themselves but expression doesnt make you a bbo.
all forms of dance follow a different set of rules that make the dance what it is, in ballet u must be graceful ness told us what we need 2bboy
theosthebest 3 years ago 2
but without expression, you can't be a bboy either. following too many rules is contradicting what bboying is all about. they say there's no rules (still follow the main guidline) but i see so many rules. in my opinion, if alieness could could do really good power, i don't think he'd be complaining.
anyway, my point is that you should dance, do footwork, power, tricks, freezes, everything. alieness seems to be dividing aspects of bboying and making one side good and the other bad.
bboy11998877 3 years ago
Dude, you do know Alien Ness invented elbow 90's right? When he was young, he did more mills, flares, swipes, flips, etc, but even then he did them on beat and with style.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago 3
Of course ballerinas don't dance to the same rhythmic drum beat, because they're not doing the bboy dance. Ness here isn't saying what defines ALL of dance in general, he's just talking about bboying specifically. And for the record ballerinas still move to music, just not to the drum beat.
Holyfiremikey 3 years ago 2
I don't care if he did a bit of power before. he's still saying really not to do it.
Anyway I won't dance the way he says just cuz he's saying it. you hear all this "be yourself, don't let anybody tell you what to do"...and yet if you don't do what they say, you're wrong...
bboy11998877 3 years ago
where did he say not to do power moves? he never said that. you're totally misinterpreting this. dance is not expression of movement, that's gymnastics and acrobatics. you dont need music for expression of movement. for one to be a true bboy then he must be a dancer, and a dancer reacts to music and expresses the*emotion* he feels from the music, and bboying was created from the feeling of the breakbeat rhythm. like alien said "if you cant catch that rhythm, you're not bboyin."
MosesHightower 2 years ago
i never said dont do anytihg, what i said is that some peeps cant dance, dont put words in y mouth
Ness4 2 years ago
@Ness4 Man, how did I put words in your mouth? You were talkin about how some bboys just do the same thing over and over and they arent really dancing on stage. I gave some examples of bboys that I know that do that. I totally agree with what you said
smeerios 2 years ago
it doesnt matter whether you're doing power or not. when power becomes separate from dance is when the dancer starts thinking instead of feeling, focusing on the move rather than letting go & allowing the music to create the move, thinking about your body rather than feeling the music. there have always been bboys who do power and do them on beat, with style and soul. Lilou & Machine are 2 current examples. the music drives their movements, not their thoughts.
MosesHightower 2 years ago 12
I like forgot about this vid...Anyway, "moseshightower", he basically implies that powermoves (mainly) have no soul and it's the wrong way to go if you want to be a "real" bboy. You saying I'm wrong about this won't make me think otherwise.
Power and tricks are movements aswell as all the rest in bboying. There's feeling and soul in all of it.
bboy11998877 2 years ago
what he implies is that powermoves alone without dancing/feeling have no soul, b/c at that point it's only about *impressing* and not *expressing*. you either dance to express or dance to impress. there's feeling and soul in all of it when it's actually done in sync with the music. when it's not in sync with the rhythm it's no longer dance & no longer about expressing, but about impressing. and that's not with just bboying but with any style of dance.
MosesHightower 2 years ago 3
hes saying, doing powermoves without using the drumbeat as a guide, are just tricks and not bboying
theosthebest 2 years ago 2
@MosesHightower Lilou can't power without crashing. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Heheh274 1 year ago
Amen
JonnyDang 3 years ago
"if you cant catch that rhythm, you're not bboyin." - that sums it all up right there. very well said from start to finish!
MosesHightower 3 years ago 5
Big Ups To " The Mighty Zulu Nation".
Ness said it best when he said "If You Can'T Feel The Drums You Are Not A B-Boy!".
New York City all Day every day, every year, every Decade, Every Millennium!
RFIGGZ 3 years ago 4
word haha
tdg1108 3 years ago
ness = legend
pacspin 3 years ago
What Ness said makes a lot of sense. Power moves are sick, no doubt. But without rhythm, they start to lack style and become repetitive. Why do you think bboys like Born, Ness, Machine, Dyzee, and Kazu are able to stand out amongst all of the power heads. Its because they are able to feel the music and "dance" to the rhythm. Their movements are determined by what music is playing so it requires them to be more dynamic which makes every move more impressive because flows with the song.
tchalla071 3 years ago 24
yup i strongly agrre with u. power is not a dance. dance is moving ur body rhythmically in time to music.
STFUitsKN 3 years ago 3
@tchalla071
WORD!!!!! de acuerdo contigo bro!
LaZaiB 1 year ago
Breakerblacky01 has posted that exact same comment on other Ness vids. I think hes got some personal issues to sort out before he continues talking shit.
Piranhudao 4 years ago
yo izzi stop talkin ya shyt man. I got luv fa everyone but u nee to stop talkin and do u. U dont like ness u dont like ness but dont be attackin him. Cuz i seen ya videos and on some realness u need work my dude. Im givin u advice but if u wanna come talkin sideways hop on a flight to NYC and come see me i aint hard to find.
SyndicateGeneral 4 years ago
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fuck off man!! i will fuck all pussies in ur family!!!! son of a bitch!!! thats all from iZzi..
aZia54 4 years ago
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alien ness u are a son of a bitch... i will fuck ur family!!! u break since 20 years but can do NOTHING!!!! MOTHERFUCKER.. SCHEISS NIGGA!!!! look at physix look at cico look at lilou... they are bboys... u are nothing mann!!! NOTHINGGG!!!!!! u want respect but my dick can give u respect.. u talk about respect but u dont know what is respect.. for this 20 years u can have my SHIT as respect asshole.. i will fuck u mann when i see u ..!!!! BBOY IZZI (from austria)u can see me at doyobe vol3!!!
Breakerblacky01 4 years ago
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Sent: January 03, 2008
Subject: hello
Message: hey dude.. that was my friend who write that fuck over youtube!!! i wouldnt write like that..:) u have my respect..u was my judge at doyobe vol 2. i am a beginner!! where will u teach classes in vienna??
and the friend was write the comments is bboy RECEP he hates you !!! iam sry to say that !!
Ness4 4 years ago 2
word 2 ness
jeanaro 4 years ago
man Alien Ness is dope & what he sed is true Yo so dont be hating niggaz
peace
bboyderry 4 years ago
Half yall dudes talkin bout Zulu Kings and how they suck but when it comes down to it yo i bet u they will whoop yo asses. So before u can beat ness dont talk shyt got me. And if u got somethin to say to me say it cuz i aint afraid to battle.
SyndicateGeneral 4 years ago 3
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Alien Ness is a prick he steals stuff from people and he was a crackhead.
PhreakStep 4 years ago
realy
spider0wave01 4 years ago
this!! asshole things he is a superstar he was judge at the doyobe !!! he blame his self and the zulu crew was suck!!! the marrocon guys kill the zulu kings and ness was crying he knows la halla king zoo was better but the other judges was friends of ness !!! i hate him so much he is a motherfucking ugly person!!
peace
aZia54 4 years ago
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OH my god... are you serius ? La halla king zoo are fucking wack.. i mean... Its impossible for la halla king zoo to even be close... I mean,.. I dont understand!!! Why are you so wack.. !!!
Emilio19990 4 years ago
ness is rite if u cant feel the rhythm and hit the beats then theres umthin wrong...tht should b your first goal as a bboy learning to feel the music
royalsand13 4 years ago 3
lol
i can do headspins
Ness4 4 years ago
i cant post url, go to youtube, search "dancing horse"
Danceformer 4 years ago
Ok, it isnt a dancing dog, but they learnt this horse to dance, now you teach it to headspin.
Danceformer 4 years ago
thats the truth.
schokoprinz 4 years ago
literally THAT'S THE WORD! oh WORD!
hobodivine 4 years ago
when can we get this REAL HIP-HOP back!!!!!!!!!!!
Nites559 4 years ago
He speaks da truth. There's a difference between circus sstuff and true bboying.
homeopt 4 years ago
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no direspect but man Alien Ness be talking shit about head spins. hes just mad because hes to old to be doing it.
watch023 4 years ago
NO HE IS NOT TALKING SHIT MAN...
BlaNkYOURTROUBLES 4 years ago 7
yo b. he aint chatin shit. he knows it and he can smoke men still. yu gota have every aspect of bboyin to be dope no just power
order88 4 years ago
He's not dissing headspins, he's just saying to do the headspin, any move, within movements and grooves of dancing.
If you say "no disrespect" and then you diss him for being "too old" to do a headspin, that is disrespect, and you're disrespecting someone who knows and has been in the bboy scene much longer than you.
Holyfiremikey 4 years ago
@watch023 im not mad about anything but people who talk as if they know me and dont. i have no problem with headspins, i do headspins. pay attention to what was really said and maybe you will get a perspective as to where im coming from.
Ness4 1 year ago
@watch023 i still do headspins
Ness4 1 year ago 2
@watch023 Buddy you realize hes saying that most new gens just do crazy blows up and power moves and don't Bboy on beat..Bboying is a dance form...So dance on beat ffs.. just because you can do some crazy moves doesn't mean you are insane.. It means you have devotion and can practice something over and over...
FreshdanceAboy 1 year ago
alien ness looks nice now but he's a monster when he battles
tinthaninja 5 years ago
WTf y cant fuickin alien ness come to my school thats the pimpest shit ever
IllWill66969 5 years ago
hahaha
Mangook 4 years ago